Mix Buss Compression - The Simple Way
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Mix Buss Compression - The Simple Way
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Mix buss compression is another one of those mysterious topics that seems to trip up some engineers.
Let’s simplify it, shall we?
When should you use it? Why should you use it? SHOULD you use it?
In this video, I’ll give you an overview of mix buss compression, including handy settings to start with, examples of attack and release time adjustments, and when to put the compressor on your mix buss.
Still have questions?
Leave me a comment below!
Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:10 Why we use mix buss compression
2:30 The plugin we’ll be using
2:54 Starting settings
4:23 First listen with starting settings
5:51 Adjusting attack time
7:15 Adjusting release time
9:05 Autorelease example
10:54 When to add the compressor to your mix buss
12:42 Do you need mix buss compression?
14:02 Recap of basic settings
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The best and clearest explanation I've heard so far.
I really appreciate that you level match your examples. So many compression videos are useless because they don't level match. How am I supposed to tell exactly what a compressor is doing when there's a 5db difference? I also appreciate that you told us exactly what to listen for.
Amen
Dude idk if its the way you explain things, its your personality, your accent or just your straight to the point approach, whatever it is, its frikkin amazing. thank you so much for your efforts in making these brilliant lessons. I'm forever grateful to you, master.
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you so much 🙏🏽❤️
Outstanding !
Thank you very much, Chris. You Always making sure that you share your skills with us. wonderful.
what a fantasitic master watched each n every buss tutorials but this is the best
Fantastic tutorial as always Chris! You are a very nice and special teacher! Tank you very much and keep it going!
this is so in-depth and well done - thanks for so much for all the comparisons!!
Heartfelt
Wow. Thank you for this valuable video. Stay safe and healthy. Love from Sri Lanka.
Thank you very much Maestro Chris for sharing this magnificent tip of compression! You are my guiding light Chris!
My pleasure, Lyndon!
Best guide
Thank you Chris! This is just so great. I loved the pdf you provided ever so kindly. You have my gratitude 🙂.
You're very welcome!
Awesome job bro! 🎯💪🏾👏🏾
Straight forward and helpful video. Thanks again Chris.
You're welcome!
Great tip!!
Thanks Chris, well explained as always
Thank you!
This is one of the best videos ive seen. Very detailed and great explanations.
Thank you! Glad I could help!
This helped a lot. Thanks Chris
Glad it helped, Ed!
Fantastic professor Chris :) Thanks for sharing those videos
My pleasure, Filipe! Glad you like them!
Very good video!
Great video Chris...like most. And I like the song too...cool vibe 👍
Thank you Chris for another great and informative video!
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful!
thanks as always - clear, succinct .... invaluable!
My pleasure!
One of the big lessons for me. I used to add it towards the end of mixing to 'treat' myself to the benefits, but now add it after the first rough mix and mix into it, and use less plug ins earlier in the mix structure.
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Yeah, the problem with adding it too late is that compression can alter your EQ curve. For example, if your mix has a lot of low end, it's naturally going to be triggered by that low end and clamp down hard on those transients. So now your whole mix will sound a bit thinner because the low end is being squashed. That's why I always try to add mix bus compression early. That way I can get exactly the tonal balance, EQ curve, and dynamics I want with the compressor already on, instead of having to make last minute adjustments based on what the compressor is doing.
If you claim to be "using less plugins," you're relying on the mix bus to do the work, and that's not teaching you to process individual tracks properly. This is meant to be used LIGHTLY, as he mentions in the video. It's not supposed to be relied on to mix for you.
@@JTguitarlessons I'm not. You need to read people's comments properly before commenting yourself.
Very good and thanks for saving my Cubase life because without your tips, i was ready to give up on it!
Glad I could help!
Man this helped a lot. At least I know now I was headed in the right direction I just wasn't sure
Thank You Chris Salim. You are My Reference
You're welcome!
Nicely and Clearly demonstrated, Chris. Thanks, Man.
Glad I could help!
Thank you very much. I do practice but sometimes I forget so thnx for this.
You're welcome!
YOUR TUTORIALS ROCK
Top video as always my friend and teacher 🤟
Thank you! Cheers!
Very good advice, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I do the same thing, but with a Nakamichi CR-7 cassette deck that I bought from the thrift store for about $25. It sounds a lot better than that waves plugin and restores most of the analog soul that the DAW has managed to snatch away
Thanks man, it's a pleasure to watch your video's!
Glad you like them!
Thanks for all your great videos...have gleaned a lot of information from them. Unrelated question...what headphones are you using?
they've added a sidechain filter. i was wondering whats your advice for using this feature? i work on hiphop/R&B so normally the ssl comp is triggering solely bcuz of the kick or the bass, at first. thanks keep up the good work!
Thank you very much Chris. Great tutorial! Bro can you please make a video of faderport in new cubase 12 midi control ?
Thank you 🙏🏻
You’re welcome 😊
Great content
Thank you! Glad you like it!
great video chris thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
thank you so much you always have an answer for me here in your channel
You are so welcome!
Nice job man👍👍👍
Thanks!
Bro those headphones are crazy!!!!!
Thank you very much, Chris.
You're very welcome, Daniel! Thanks again for showing up at the Premiere today :-)
@@mixdownonline It's an honor to chat with you at The Premiere ;-)
Great
Thanks for Explaining it well. If we add Mix buss, should we add Glue compressor again on Mastering channel?
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SSL bus compressors are designed to run best at 4:1 ratio, or so I have always been told. That being said, I do agree that you generally want to use the less is more bias. I've had tracks where I literally had to take off all compression just to keep the LRA healthy in mastering, and I've had other tracks that just had to have 2-4 db of gain reduction on the bus compressor, and still kept a healthy LRA in post. The vibe of the track is a factor too - some tracks want to be compressed more, and lend themselves to less (or none).
Can go 2:1 or 4:1 depending on the program material. I've had great results with 4:1 when going for a more glued in sound.
Aweome vid maaan! Love the track too
Thanks man! You know my Kick and Snare sound has your Drum Samples in it ;-)
Thank you very much Chris. Always good!
One short question: do you sometimes use tape emulation on your mix buss? What do you think about it?
I do, yes! :-) Everything I use on my Mix buss is in a very gentle way
Hai chris. thanks for your video. Whats your opinion if i use buscompression as paralel compression because analog obsession busterse has the mix function.
Great video explained very well thank you for the tips on slow attack and fast release 🙏🏽I will be using this straight away. Btw what do you think of the SSL bus compressor by waves using the presets?
What sort of presets are available on this plugin? For example are they given for different genres (folk, dance etc) or named with different criteria to that?
Selim is tops. The Princess Leia headphones are a treat as well! ☺️
Yes they are! LOL!
Which Cubase stock plugin makes the better mix bus compressor? The tube or vintage compressor?
But professor sometimes a fast attack moderate release can tame harsh top end transients, and also keep thing from jumping all over the place. especially a very lively track where dynamics is important, but also needs some taming to taste and give everything that oneness glue.
Great tutorial you explained bus compression very efficiently! Just curious, what headphones are those? They look awesome!
I actually made a video on these headphones :-) ua-cam.com/video/9hJkXUBeK8s/v-deo.htmlsi=dRDctmH0gx864dnX
I'm practicing doing my own mastering and started mixing with a whole mastering chain on. For high end music production an external mastering engineer is usually needed but one advantage I found is that with a template mastering chain one can get closer to the end result when mixing.
Glue = make the instruments sound like they are coming from one speaker or one soundstage
Compression is one way to achieve this but there is much more into getting your tracks glued
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i use the elysia alpha master plugin, but I also want to check out the shadow hills class A
Good choice
Hi Chris i need video shows midi control cubase 12 plz
Great video as always!
Because I tend to listen more on these videos instead of practicing and listening myself... i must ask this for some stupid question... So if I have a song with for instance a verse that has less elements and don't build up to the same levels as the chorus... would you recommend to automate the threshold for each part? I guess if I want to glue the verse I would need to, that is if I intend to keep the mixbus compression in the end and don't leave it for the mastering engineer? But if I want a certain vibe I keep it, I think you said or someone else in another video ... well?
i think everything should be on the same level consistency you might have to listen to certain songs to see if it is the same level and what not
Depends on the effect you want to achieve. It may be fine for the verse to be less compressed if you want a more open and relaxed sound there. However, if you want consistent compression, you would definitely have to automate the threshold.
There's something nice about the compressor really kicking on in the chorus though.
Also, one thing to keep in mind is that even if it doesn't look like any compression is happening in the verse, it may still be doing something. Compressor plugins are often "flavored." They have transformer or tube emulations built-in. So running your mix through them may be doing something subtle to the sound even if it's not audible compression.
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Attack and release are usually different for each song. Your setting means that you're only compressing the middle of the sound just a bit. All the movements and transients are at the beginning and ends.
Yes, that's the case for instruments, but the mix buss is a different ball game IMO. My goal with Mix Buss Compression is to glue things up by keeping the compression transparent. If I change these settings up, it will not be by a lot. In a classical music mix, for example, maybe a slower Release time would work better. For most mixes I worked on in the past 18 years, those settings worked well for me 95% of the time :-)
@@mixdownonline ok...i got a beat thatt i finished, can you tell me anything about it if i send it to you.
Helo Chris! I think buss comps should be a option but not a must !
For sure!
Thank you ! Very helpful video!
Glad to hear that!
Give me that name of the song!
That track was on fire!
How do you bypass the low end so its not triggering the bus compressor majorly of the time?
HI Chris, Is the demo song available for download. I totally love the vibe and chord changes, it's got that European vibe to it. Thanks 😊
Available on streaming services, look for CHRIS SELIM on Spotify, and you'll find it :-) Glad you like it!
@@mixdownonline Hi Chris, 👋 thanks for the reply. I only found your profile and some playlists. It would help to have the name of the song. Perhaps a link to it would be great. Thanks for your time.
Thanks Chris, now, 3 years into my Cubase (and professional) mixing journey, I figured that the World of music production is a bit like learning a language. Repetition, familiarisation, trying out new things, but most importantly who exactly to trust to guide you in the best way. I'm pleased that both you and Warren Huart (Produce like a Pro) are my goto's - it's also the whole ethos that's important too, like why you use what you use, what you're trying to achieve. It was a minefield and pretty damn terrifying at first at the start but I'm braving full live drum kits with confidence and learning a lot about small changes effecting and building music that translates emotionally - so, a massive thank you from me!
Yo bro...i love your videos❤
Please tell me...can i use a 1176 for Master bus ?
Peace❤
Thanks, glad you like my videos. An 1176 on the master buss is not what I would go with, it's too fast of a compressor for the mix buss IMO. A VCA type compressor is more suitable for the mix buss. A 30ms of compression Attack time is what I usually go with on a Mix Buss :-)
Hi Chris, I have a question. Should I put reverb on the mix buss?
I’m no professional, but I definitely wouldn’t. Mostly on the drums and vocals.
Helo Chris ! Mastering engineers use to say "no effect on the mix bus" so do you bypass the comp when bouncing ? Is it just to hear what could be the result after mastering ? or do you include the comp when bouncing anyway ?
No, I leave the compressor ON because it's part of the sound. If I use a Limiter to listen to how my mix sounds loud, then I will bypass it for Mastering. I never bounce a Mix with a Limiter ON.
@@mixdownonline ok thanx !
@@mixdownonline do u ever add some clipping on mix bus?if you do where would u place it?
Thanks!
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With the release, you don't want the slow setting, because it won't return in time for the next transient to come through. It basically ruins the sound of the song. I like to have it fast enough to return in time for the next beat. That's dependent on the speed of the song. I might even make it slightly quicker after I find the sweet spot, just to be absolutely sure it's releasing in time.
Do you set up a compressor for each group channel with different settings to glue the group channels together?
I do on my Drum Buss and sometimes Parallel Compression on the other Instrument Busses with this technique ua-cam.com/video/0uDYPIYRFDQ/v-deo.html And sometimes, no Compression. It all depends on what I'm mixing :-)
@@mixdownonline Thanks Chris.
Hi Chris
Hello my friend!
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Hi. I use Rear Bus Compression. Will it replace Mix Bus compression, or is it a different kind of compression, thanks.
It's different. I use both, Rear Bus Compression is basically Parallel Compression on some instrument busses, which is not the case for Mix Bus Compression :-)
@@mixdownonline Great, thanks for the reply.
So do you put that compressor for the mix buss on the master channel?
I would. To me mix bus, 2 bus, master bus are the same. It's the last fader on your board where all other channels go into.
Myself on Studio One 6.5 DAW, my 2 bus has light compression from an SSL, Pulsar Audio 8200 EQ, Softube Clipper and Schwabe Gold Clip, the Nugen ISL limiter all inserted.
@@DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 ok bro, thank you.
Sorry if this has been asked. Would the Cubase Compressor do the job?
What type of headphones are those?
Noobish question but, why not use the same compressors usually used on the different mixes (1176, LA2A, etc...), on busses and master?
i dont usually do anything on my overall outs, i leave it for mastering.
Salut Chris, j'ai une question. Pourquoi on utilise souvent le SSL comme compresseur sur bus? Les compresseurs VCA comme celui de la SSL sont reconnus pour leurs "fast attacks" et réduire les transiantes. Je m'atendrais donc plus à des compresseurs Opto ou à tube pour les mix et les bus. Qu'en penses-tu?
C'est difficile d'entendre les différence dont tu fais référence. Il faut ouvrir les oreilles! Merci!
Which Headphones are you using in this video?
So you will keep the mix bus comp on even if the mastering company doesn't want compression?
Usually, what a mastering engineer doesn't want, is a Limiter, while bouncing a mix for mastering. Mix bus compression is a common thing among pro mixing engineers, it's part of the sound.
@@mixdownonline thanks man for answering the same questions you gave earlier. I'm learning alot of you channel you're content is priceless. Love
Using softwares compressor I feel that I get what I want..than practically spend an exorbitant amount of fund ..that may sound way better..
if it is affordable..
Whith out the comp sounded a little bit wider ?
hi Chris. I have often seen this technique used on the master bus. many people say that this ssl changes the perception of the side of the mix. is this to you? analog button adds character or is it just voltage simulation?
Didn't notice that much and the Analog adds a slight bit of harmonic distortion
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The compression guide link isn't working
works for me
@@ErixSamson Had to switch browsers I got it...Thx
Ok, I just tested out and it was very slow to get to the download so I sent a new link out by email, just in case.
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Mix Buss?
No agenda mug??
"In the morning" my friend 😉
Bus not buss.
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