I Tried Soy 464 Wax For The FIRST TIME....Here’s My Honest Thoughts

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 307

  • @MemoryBoxCandleCo
    @MemoryBoxCandleCo  3 роки тому +11

    Update: all the fragrance oils have been sold ❤️

    • @reneelovelife23
      @reneelovelife23 3 роки тому

      Hi I’m totally new to this.
      I’ve always had the thought for starting a candle business but always dragged myself on it. I’m a candle girl, I absolutely love them!
      I wanted to know what soy wax you use for yours and also the wick?
      I’m so glad I found you! You will change my life! 😊
      A lot of people aren’t willing to share information like you do, I mean you gave it straight to us and I absolutely love that about you. I wish you nothing but the best and a ton of success 💗💗

    • @misteralex01
      @misteralex01 2 роки тому

      @@reneelovelife23 she uses soy 10

  • @asmrglow
    @asmrglow 3 роки тому +79

    I work with the 464 wax and something i found that helps having a smooth top is mixing well before pouring the wax in the jar!

    • @warisss8415
      @warisss8415 3 роки тому

      How should we mix it?

    • @shopscentofme
      @shopscentofme 3 роки тому +2

      I gotta try that. Thank you for the tip.Thankfully I haven’t had issues but sometimes in a blue moon it will come out with sink holes 🕳

    • @asmrglow
      @asmrglow 3 роки тому +18

      @@warisss8415 oh I meant just take a spoon and stir the wax before pouring it in the jar so that there’s no cold and hot spots (no difference in temperature anywhere) 💕 hope it makes sense

    • @softpunka9792
      @softpunka9792 3 роки тому +2

      My worlds colliding. 😳😱

    • @2000jenhair
      @2000jenhair 3 роки тому +4

      Before you pour either flip your jar if clear and heat with in 20 degrees of the wax and you will get a perfect pour

  • @Elmar_22e
    @Elmar_22e 3 роки тому

    Yessss! Thanks Érica for your input 🙏🏽

  • @abbieshaver7489
    @abbieshaver7489 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for your videos! You really inspired me to start out with candle making! For the longest time I struggled with finding a hobby that I could genuinely love and stick with. I know after a while you may start to see your MANY comments and views, and picture them as one huge number, but just know, you are actually touching the lives of real individuals! All just by being real and genuine. Hope this isnt too sappy, but thank you Erica!!

  • @mwilliams7138
    @mwilliams7138 3 роки тому +9

    Girl I’ve been here since you were at 1k subscribers a year ago and I never realized how many you have until today this is such a blessing!!! I can’t wait to order from you :)

  • @ghosted6561
    @ghosted6561 3 роки тому +4

    I just tried a mix of 464 and 4625, just out of the blue because why not, and it worked surprisingly well, but definitely more because of the raised melt point and stability of my paraffin!
    I can’t wait to hear all the insights and advice 🤓 I’m here and ready to learn!!

  • @Omayra2212
    @Omayra2212 3 роки тому +2

    I am a 464 fan. It is the only wax I have ever used. THANK YOU for your video and honest review.

  • @brandigill4940
    @brandigill4940 3 роки тому +12

    I started out with 464 and eventually added 1/3 Joy Wax. What a perfect combination! I never have to use a heat gun at all and the hot throw is great. Your recommendation to add a softer wax is definitely right on. It helps me make each wax last longer as well. I’m lucky enough to have a candle supply store 3 miles from my house so I only have to order the joy wax. Love your videos Erica!

  • @michauxdowning1733
    @michauxdowning1733 3 роки тому +1

    Your videos are just great! I am a newbie, just gathering info at this point. I really appreciate your candor. So informative, so helpful!

  • @latinlabel
    @latinlabel 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this awesome comparison video. I use 464 and love it!

  • @michadaoud833
    @michadaoud833 3 роки тому +5

    Even as a beginner i started with 464 and it came out so lovely. Im trialing different waxes but no issue with it at all. Smooth top, lovely CT and HT.

  • @jesssheteron902
    @jesssheteron902 3 роки тому +1

    All I use is 464 started with it and love it! Never understood the negitive comments. Great comparison

  • @Oralene.
    @Oralene. 3 роки тому +3

    I can’t thank you enough for all your videos. 🤍🙏🏼 I missed you and have to catch up with your latest videos. Unfortunately my son and I took a little break from Candles due to personal issues. We are back 🤍 😌

  • @fanta2468
    @fanta2468 3 роки тому

    I've been debating between waxes thanks for this!!

  • @prettyofficialbthony1602
    @prettyofficialbthony1602 3 роки тому

    464 takes a lot of patience...I love using it

  • @michaelcantu868
    @michaelcantu868 3 роки тому +2

    Hey Erica great video and testing results. I normally use coco83 and after seeing this video maybe I'll give your 80/20 blend a try. I've tried Soy10 in the past using the same ratio and got pretty good results with my HT.

  • @janhoyle1462
    @janhoyle1462 3 роки тому +2

    I use the 464 for California Candle supply. I like it, but I’m use to standard wax. I’ve been making pillars for 50 years. I like the 464. I’m trying to start testing other waxes. Don’t blow your candles out, the serpent elementals will appreciate it. That’s why I never get bothered by fires or bubbles.

  • @cliviascreations
    @cliviascreations 3 роки тому

    Thank you Erica, very informative

  • @christinemackenzie3692
    @christinemackenzie3692 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for testing the 464! I live in Alberta Canada and I am having a lot of difficulty procuring supplies I need. I bought the 464 from Michael’s because that’s all I could get at that time. I’m still waiting to get the UV inhibitor! I appreciate the fact that you tested A-Wax that I actually have! The cost of importing heavy things from the states is just unreal! I just retired and I do not have enough to live on for a very long time. I don’t need to make a fortune but if I could clear $2000 a month I would be able to live comfortably- ie: without stressing over money! I really need to give this my all!

    • @sherrygKMA
      @sherrygKMA Рік тому

      Best of wishes to you for meeting your goal! Hugs and love from a fellow candle maker!

  • @lisatavarez
    @lisatavarez 3 роки тому

    Very interesting thanks for this video! I used to use 464 but now use VCS / EC26 and I have to say I’ve been curious about coco 83... and 464 had better HT than VCS for me but I like the texture of VCS much more. So many options!

  • @erekaanderson
    @erekaanderson 3 роки тому +1

    All of my candles are made with 464. Once I started pouring hot back at the beginning of the year and have had smooth tops every time since.

  • @ninailia8552
    @ninailia8552 3 роки тому +2

    I have tried just 464, it was a disappointment, I tried only coconut wax and it was a disaster 😅 I combined them and I finally had a good outcome! Great video!

  • @robbinblack8530
    @robbinblack8530 3 роки тому

    Thank you, I brought some 464 wax and was going to blend it with some coconut wax. I'll make some testers to see how they come out.

  • @taylorkeffer1264
    @taylorkeffer1264 3 роки тому +3

    I just started candle making back in November and I've only used 464. I don't have any issues with CT or HT and the first pour is a beautiful even top. I've only had an issue with 1 FO which was Honeysuckle from candlescience (the only place I buy FO). I just used a hot gun and it worked for the most part but wasn't perfect. I only really have issues when it's burned like you said. It's completely uneven once it hardens back up again. But honestly, that has never bothered me, once it's burning again the melt pool is completely even and goes to the edges of the container. It does leave some residue once burned down, but I've always heard that's just 100% soy wax. Maybe I should try pouring at a higher temp to see if it's smoother once it's burned ( I heat to 185, pour FO and stir for 2-2.5 mins and pour at around 135).

  • @RachelleDThompson
    @RachelleDThompson 3 роки тому +1

    I prefer overwhelming candle scent. Having large rooms it comes in handy.

  • @AngelTakesOn
    @AngelTakesOn 3 роки тому +2

    Yes please !! I would love some samples!! Send me information on buying them!!

    • @kims2467
      @kims2467 3 роки тому

      Same lol got a lot more testing I need to do

  • @williamstout7137
    @williamstout7137 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for everything you do. You have helped me so much. I love all your videos.
    Also if you have anymore extra fragrances can you send them my way. I am so happy I found you.

  • @shinebrighttoglow3961
    @shinebrighttoglow3961 3 роки тому +1

    I love all your ideas, and you teach this so well you should be a patreon I think that’s how you spell it I would most definitely support you.. you are very good at explaining instructions…

    • @MemoryBoxCandleCo
      @MemoryBoxCandleCo  3 роки тому +1

      I would love to do a patreon, how I am already so busy and I just don’t know if I would have the time to give it the attention it would deserve ❤️

  • @nayelyngonzalez858
    @nayelyngonzalez858 3 роки тому +1

    I used 464 and I love this wax

  • @oksanajosypcuk869
    @oksanajosypcuk869 5 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for your videos! I am new in candle making field and this information (and everything else from your channel) is VERY helpful! Great job, thank you for your help :-)

  • @msdotambriejones
    @msdotambriejones 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve always used 464 and it’s amazing!

  • @michellemcgregor9198
    @michellemcgregor9198 3 роки тому +36

    464 is the only wax I ever use to make my candles. I absolutely love it!

    • @laqsmith36
      @laqsmith36 3 роки тому +1

      Does every f/o work with yours? What jars do you use? What wicks? Do you always get a great HT

    • @msdotambriejones
      @msdotambriejones 3 роки тому

      Same!

    • @ghosted6561
      @ghosted6561 3 роки тому

      Okay weird question maybe but what do you cure at? I cured mine for two weeks at 8% and I’ve got almost nada 😔

    • @hummingbirdess8763
      @hummingbirdess8763 3 роки тому

      @@ghosted6561 I don’t know what Michelle uses, I use a full 10% of FO. HT is awesome

    • @lisagiannuzzi348
      @lisagiannuzzi348 3 роки тому

      Me too! Actually, I've used 444 in the past as well but have no issues for the most part if customers practice proper candle care :)

  • @tradergirl7067
    @tradergirl7067 Рік тому +1

    I'm late to add .. liked your video alot. ive been using 464 only for 1.5 yrs on both clear vessels and not clear vessels. I sell at a local flea market. I love 464 and I love the HT and the CT and my tops are always smooth, I heat to 185 and pour at 135. almost always perfect outcome. never use a heat gun. I use CD wicks and HTP ...the issues that I have are.. the white wax will start to turn yellowish after a couple months on the shelf depending on the fragrance used. the clear vessels all show a crazy amount of frosting all around all sides of the jars especially noticeable when using colored wax this happens with in a week on the shelf and gets worse as time goes on. some of them get wet spots but not very often. the wax has little brown specs of cardboard I think... no matter what vendor you buy it from this has been a tiny issue from time to time.. the next issue is the cost, its outrageous if you can't pick it up locally. ive never tried any other wax because I have spent soooooo much time and effort perfecting I feel it would be a waste if I change .. lol. but I really want a wax that doesn't frost. I plan to make changes when I run low on my labels and need new. I liked your idea if adding 20%coconut..

  • @stephieann6844
    @stephieann6844 3 роки тому +6

    I've worked with 464 for years and I think cure time needs to be at least 4 weeks!

  • @CC-en7kq
    @CC-en7kq 3 роки тому +4

    I just made candles yesterday using 464, from ordering it from Amazon for the first time, and I was blown away, 🤗 my candles every single one was perfect, no sink holes, no spotting around the jar and the top was so smooth and perfect!
    and I'm being real here. I melted wax to to reach 200 added the fragrance at 165° and poured at 135. I'm just one happy candle maker, all you candle makers , you know what I'm talking about.🙂 we all want that perfect candle. Now let me say, I've always used 464, and not always had perfect candles, but I really like using this type and I always get compliments on how great they smell when burning

    • @lauraastudillo4282
      @lauraastudillo4282 3 роки тому

      Hi! Im from Colombia. i hope you can help me with this. This is my first time using 464 and i want to add some colors. what temperature do you use and its celsius or fahrenheit? thanks

    • @CC-en7kq
      @CC-en7kq 3 роки тому

      @@lauraastudillo4282 Hello Laura, nice to meet you, I'm from California. I really don't add dye to my candles, but if I did it would be around 185 °F . Let me know how the candles come out🙂

  • @sharonkeen2547
    @sharonkeen2547 3 роки тому +1

    I love 464 and it's been the only wax I've ever used. I do 80% of the time get bumpy tops once solidified but I pour at 150 (I buy from Candlewic and I always go by the manufacturer's temp recc's). I have noticed if poured at around 147 the tops get smoother for me. Either way, the gun resolves all my top issues.

    • @earthglow
      @earthglow 2 роки тому +1

      I've also noticed that fragrance oils can also alter the finish on the tops. With thicker fragrances (ie have greater viscosity) I will add them in at about 190 instead of 185 and this seems to help them bind better with the fragrances and produce a smoother finish after pouring.

  • @tammey3278
    @tammey3278 3 роки тому

    Great video! I am getting ready to use 444. Would love to watch a review.

  • @simplyblessed_
    @simplyblessed_ 3 роки тому

    My first time with 464 was not good but I’m giving it another try this week I pray it’s better this time around

  • @SewDivaCreationsLLC
    @SewDivaCreationsLLC 2 роки тому

    I worked with this wax and it works perfect for me and it has a excellent hot throw

  • @Lily_B2022
    @Lily_B2022 3 роки тому +1

    I still haven’t used 464. I think it’s just temperamental, I do see some who get really beautiful results.

  • @georgianabennett2322
    @georgianabennett2322 2 роки тому

    Wow always love your info 👈❤❤❤❤

  • @cscott505
    @cscott505 3 роки тому +1

    I would love some oils to test! I'm new and have tried the 444 and 464 so far.. Trying the C6 next. In the future I definitely want to try the Soy 10 when its in stock!

  • @jrccandleco7939
    @jrccandleco7939 3 роки тому +4

    Heeeeeeyyyyy Erica!!!!! 464 wax is a very good wax. The hot throw is amazing after the curing process. The only thing is finding the right wick for this wax! It doesn’t have a low temperature melting. It’s about 130 for a full melt. The eco wicks are either too hot or not hot enough. However, wick testing is a royal pain in the ass! But once you get it.... you get it right on the nose!!!

    • @litashawhite6750
      @litashawhite6750 3 роки тому

      Thanks Joey! This is my issue right now. I'm using ECO wicks

    • @jullyle8775
      @jullyle8775 2 роки тому

      CD works well for me! I’ve tested with ECO wicks and it left the top of the candles uneven but with CD, it’s perfect!

    • @malena7362
      @malena7362 2 роки тому

      @@jullyle8775 do you have good ht? And what percentage you use if you don’t mind me asking?

  • @snowgurl330
    @snowgurl330 Рік тому

    NO Hot throw and candle looks ugly after burning - That is very true! I am having that same problem.

  • @lj4466
    @lj4466 Рік тому

    Gah bless you for these tests

  • @leahbamxo
    @leahbamxo 3 роки тому +5

    oh lord i HATED 464. i was always envious of people who had the patience for it LOL i tried coco83 and haven't touched any other wax since

  • @raquelmontejano
    @raquelmontejano Рік тому

    I use 464 wax from candle science and it’s nice and soft , I also tried soy wax from heart and craft store (more expensive though) kinda dry wax. I also tried coconut soy blend and it’s very hard wax definitely not for vessels but ok for pillars candles 🕯

  • @LisaSaliture
    @LisaSaliture 3 роки тому

    Coconut 83 is sooo expensive to have shipped! I know someone who uses it with SP486 which is a hard pillar wax. She uses the mix in containers and swears the hot throw is amazing! Haven’t tried it myself, because of the shipping charge Swan Candles charges.

  • @dezirose6254
    @dezirose6254 3 роки тому +3

    I have noticed with 464 wax the HT comes at 4 + week curing. But I have only tried Candlescience fragrance with 464. I use soy10 now but I do let it cure as well but maybe 1-2 week.

  • @jessd7281
    @jessd7281 3 роки тому +1

    I have a whole bag of 464 that I’m trying to practice with and use it up before buying my next wax, if anyone has suggestions, please let me know! Besides 464 being temperamental, the one thing I really don’t like about it is it’s melting point, which is between 113-119 F. The reason I don’t like it is because I feel if I were to ever sell candles, the vessel itself, then wrapping, then putting it in a box, then putting it on a truck (unless you pay extra for conditioned trucks) will be hot. It might not look as pretty when the customer gets it. I could be very wrong, but this is how I’ve always thought about it.

  • @litcitycandles965
    @litcitycandles965 3 роки тому +16

    Truly-- the biggest issue with 464 is that it is heavily marketed to newbies-- and it just isn't a newbie friendly wax. It has a steep learning curve and its really hard to master. Once you conquer it... its fabulous.. but that learning curve puts a lot of newer chandlers off.

    • @Shanz_3
      @Shanz_3 3 роки тому +1

      Oh my god this is me! I’m trying not to be out off yet! My wax melts with the other GW soy wax has been amazing but my candling with 464 has been a disaster

  • @lisawalker6073
    @lisawalker6073 3 роки тому

    464 works pretty good

  • @abeecruz
    @abeecruz 3 роки тому +1

    My first candle making experience was with 464. And all of my candles came out with smooth tops. Not sure if it was beginners luck lol. Never used it again only because I found CAC.

  • @FlowerfulPlants
    @FlowerfulPlants 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this review. My C3 soy is sold out so I literally ordered 464 today. I have hope that it will perform well after seeing your review.

  • @marsenadufresne7478
    @marsenadufresne7478 3 роки тому +23

    She said she added the fragrance oil at 180 and poured at 170. I've always let it cool to 135 before pouring. It would save so much time to not have to wait that long!

    • @2000jenhair
      @2000jenhair 3 роки тому +1

      You need to look at your flash point on each fragrance

    • @lilnikky
      @lilnikky 3 роки тому

      Hi Marsena! Would you mix the FO at 135 as well and then pour? Or you add FO before and then pour at 135?
      I’m just curious I’m in testing right now and would love to try your method. Thank you ☺️

    • @marsenadufresne7478
      @marsenadufresne7478 3 роки тому +1

      @@lilnikky I've been having much better luck with mine now that I add the FO at higher temps, like 175 or 170 and then pour right away. I was having trouble with the wax looking a little curdled (although it burned fine) and now it always looks nice and doesn't have as many air pockets. I follow other candlemakers who do the exact opposite and seem to have good results. So I don't know why this works for me.

  • @kims2467
    @kims2467 3 роки тому +6

    Ok, I think you're psychic because I literally spent the whole day doing research trying to chose between 464 and 444 lol thank you!!

    • @ania9053
      @ania9053 3 роки тому +2

      I don't like 444:(

    • @kims2467
      @kims2467 3 роки тому

      @@ania9053 Thank you!! I'm looking for any feedback I can get before I make a decision. 🙂

    • @hairbyeviln8706
      @hairbyeviln8706 3 роки тому +1

      444 is evil

    • @kims2467
      @kims2467 3 роки тому

      @@hairbyeviln8706 Thanks for the feedback!! 🙂

    • @2bewonderwomen
      @2bewonderwomen 3 роки тому +1

      I love 444 + 464
      444 takes a hotter wick

  • @hairbyeviln8706
    @hairbyeviln8706 3 роки тому +5

    I love the fragrance throw on 464 all my customers love it I attempted to switch to 444 and it definitely needs the full 2 weeks to bind . 464 does cool off ugly but it’s worth it to me . I am inclined to start using ig6000 as I loved how smooth it looks after burning 😭 and ht and ct is great but .... Idk

    • @Gaviotapoderosa
      @Gaviotapoderosa 2 роки тому

      Ay what temperature do you add your FO for a great HT?

    • @tedlewis9655
      @tedlewis9655 Рік тому

      She is using the wrong wicks for 464. Cd wicks are the best for soy

  • @Veronica-yd8ti
    @Veronica-yd8ti 3 роки тому +4

    I use 464 and I have found with hot throw it’s all about the wick it took a lot of testing but once you find the right wick you get amazing hot throw😁

    • @FernandaPerez-tz4he
      @FernandaPerez-tz4he 3 роки тому +1

      wich type of wick you use?

    • @Levithecreator
      @Levithecreator 3 роки тому +5

      Same here, I spent an insane amount of time to finally find x2 CD-3 wicks fit my 11 oz whiskey tumblers perfectly and get the optimal hot throw as well. Didn't like how the ECO's were burning or how any single wicks were performing. Then in my 15 oz apothecary jars x2 ECO-2 wicks were better than the CD's... all comes down to testing

    • @lorimarcello3829
      @lorimarcello3829 3 роки тому +2

      I use Eco 10 in my 8 oz jelly jars.

  • @erinh872
    @erinh872 3 роки тому +1

    I've had great luck with the 464 in opaque containers. Clear glass, notsomuch. I haven't found anything else that gives me better throws.

  • @AngelTakesOn
    @AngelTakesOn 3 роки тому +12

    I been trying not to light ur candle....but I did just right now and it smells amazing!! Ur hot throw is great!! I'm getting so discouraged lol 😆

    • @MemoryBoxCandleCo
      @MemoryBoxCandleCo  3 роки тому +5

      Ahh thanks girl!! And please don’t be discouraged! There’s still a lot I’m trying to work on with my candles too ☺️

  • @AAa-to2tz
    @AAa-to2tz 3 роки тому +1

    I started out with 464 for a whole year and really wanting it to work. I would wrap the jars with felt and over came the wet spots 🙂 I would cover the jars with a box and got smooth tops and no frosting yippy BUT THEN their were only a handful of scents that were actually strong. So after 3 months I looked at those " perfect candles" and they looked like crap. Frosted, dry looking , very disappointed. Now I make wax melts with a para soy blend. Wish I had patience and a lot more time and money to try other waxes and wicks and jars, oh my.😅

  • @handmadesandmore
    @handmadesandmore 3 роки тому +3

    I started with 444 and have had excellent results with CT and HT. I decided to try 464, and absolutely hate it. 👎🏼 Thank you for the video because I was hoping that you would do one on 464.

    • @AG-yq3np
      @AG-yq3np 3 роки тому

      What FO % do you use? I hear that for 444 it doesn't have to be to high but I'm nervous to lower the %.

  • @amritaowl5078
    @amritaowl5078 3 роки тому +1

    I only use 464 Soy Wax it has the best hot throw

  • @savanna.shares
    @savanna.shares 3 роки тому +2

    I love 464. It’s the wax I’ve used since the beginning of my candle journey. It’s all about the temps! I have always had great luck with the HT and smooth tops. I think most HT issues people have are related the wicks or FO and not the 464. Thanks for the great video!

    • @cscott505
      @cscott505 3 роки тому

      Hey what wicks do you use?

    • @savanna.shares
      @savanna.shares 3 роки тому +1

      @@cscott505 I use Eco wicks

    • @lilnikky
      @lilnikky 3 роки тому

      Hi Glamour! Currently I’m burning at 185 and pouring at 170. What would you recommend ? :)

  • @tamaramiles1728
    @tamaramiles1728 3 роки тому +1

    Wow this was a great video! I use 464 with my candles but I have been thinking of switching to the soy 10 wax from cal candlesupply. How has that wax worked for you? Also, I could use some testing fragrance oils 😬😬😬

  • @chozanntje
    @chozanntje 3 роки тому

    Yessss pleaseee, i would like some FO samples. Pls let me know how to buy😘

  • @mrwonderful2081
    @mrwonderful2081 3 роки тому +41

    Hot throw depends heavily on the fragrance oil. Some smell strong enough and others you can’t smell anything. Also adding 1tsp of coconut oil does help greatly with the tops.

    • @sarahmcvay3445
      @sarahmcvay3445 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the info!

    • @kiyyahdaniel9219
      @kiyyahdaniel9219 3 роки тому

      Does it change the wicking?

    • @kiyyahdaniel9219
      @kiyyahdaniel9219 3 роки тому

      Certain brand?

    • @2000jenhair
      @2000jenhair 3 роки тому +1

      I find that working with 464. The throw is stronger when we are making candles. So I never smell mine as I make them in the house. That's frustrating for me whe I light them. But my clients say they are super strong. 🙄

    • @Jenni-wy3pw
      @Jenni-wy3pw 2 роки тому +1

      @@2000jenhair try smelling coffee beans to clear your nose. I do cause I can never smell them either. I ask use 464 for Scoopable wax and I have to clear my nose to smell them. Everyone that buys from me say it’s strong.

  • @stacyrichardson4997
    @stacyrichardson4997 3 роки тому +1

    Ht is amazing on all my candles

  • @TonicMercantile
    @TonicMercantile 3 роки тому +18

    I've had issues with 464 wax (rough tops and sink holes). I started using 10% virgin coconut wax and it's made a huge difference. Smoother tops, especially when relighting the candle, and cold and hot throughs are about the same when using 100% 464 (I use 10% FO). I did, however, have to go through about 30 or so candle tests to get the formulation just right, which was frustrating in itself, but I finally got there. I will say that the reason why I started out with 464 was because most all of the other waxes were hard to get or heavily backordered. I've heard great things about EcoSoya wax and and have seen several UA-cam videos of people using it and wanted to try that one out. Have you used that wax before and if so, what was your experiece ?

  • @lildora7852
    @lildora7852 3 роки тому

    I have a question. I made some candles. Bith with the 464 wax and one with amber and driftwood FO from CS and one with sugared lemon from flaming candle.
    The amb i can not be sure i added oil at 185 but i know i did with the SL and stirred for 4 mins. Both of these have color changing to include levels of yellow on top and bottom. Would you be able to tell me if you have experienced this?

  • @Bella_0303
    @Bella_0303 3 роки тому

    Hey Erika. Were you satisfied with the eco 1s for the 100% 464 or would you wick up?

  • @anaibarra3036
    @anaibarra3036 3 роки тому

    Hello,
    So when testing, would you say that you would have to test all the scents you plan on selling or would you just test with one Fragrance and go from there?

  • @barbr316
    @barbr316 2 роки тому

    I’m a beginner at candle making and that’s the wax that I worked with are working at the moment 464; I really do not care for it that much my candles came out with sinkholes a rough top frosting those are just a few but I do not care for this wax so I’m going to be trying a different wax since I am a beginner just starting out I’m in the process of testing waxes wicks, fragrance , color dyes…..etc so I hope to have better luck with other waxes

  • @hummingbirdess8763
    @hummingbirdess8763 3 роки тому +10

    I use plain coconut oil added into the 464. About a full tablespoon to 40 oz of wax. It has been working fine

    • @rashidamoniquemarine6208
      @rashidamoniquemarine6208 3 роки тому

      When you added the coconut oil, was the hot throw strong?

    • @hummingbirdess8763
      @hummingbirdess8763 3 роки тому +1

      @@rashidamoniquemarine6208 yes!

    • @paytonconley2461
      @paytonconley2461 3 роки тому +2

      I just bought a 45lb bag of 464 without ever making candles before and I’m scared now cause of the video, any suggestions? Or should I cancel my order and try a new wax?

    • @rashidamoniquemarine6208
      @rashidamoniquemarine6208 3 роки тому +4

      @@paytonconley2461 I was feeling the same way when I bought my wax! Don’t throw it out. Definitely try it and work with it. You’ll definitely get the perfect formula.
      I put 1/2 a teaspoon of coconut oil in a pound of wax and 1/8 teaspoon of vegan steric acid to harden and they came out so perfect! The candle had a very milky texture and weren’t soft. Without adding steric acid my candles were too soft. Now all I have to do is light the candles in a couple weeks to make sure my hot throw is great as well. 😅

    • @paytonconley2461
      @paytonconley2461 3 роки тому

      @@rashidamoniquemarine6208 I was also hearing that HT was inconsistent from day to day even without a change in formula, have you had that problem?

  • @augustinastumenas1190
    @augustinastumenas1190 3 роки тому +4

    Hello. Thank you for a good review. Maybe you could make a review on Cargill C-3 soy wax?

    • @ariellegelosi
      @ariellegelosi 3 роки тому

      i just started my own candle journey and bought Cargill C-3....found out last night that the company has major ethical and sustainability issues. *sigh*

  • @clothyoriginal
    @clothyoriginal 2 роки тому +1

    I'm liking 464 so far. I was loyal to cb advanced beforehand. Before trying 464 I tried c3 as I heard great things about it and terrible things about 464. My experience has been the opposite of most people. Really really hated c3.

    • @tripmad
      @tripmad 10 місяців тому

      Please tell Why?

  • @DimaSlyunin
    @DimaSlyunin 3 роки тому

    thanks! so what combination of wax you are currently using for your candles?

  • @madisonharper2741
    @madisonharper2741 2 роки тому +1

    I’m wondering what is the best natural wax for wax tarts? And which one do you use?

  • @JTFuller
    @JTFuller 3 роки тому

    What wax do you use?

  • @ebonym1479
    @ebonym1479 3 роки тому +2

    464 is the only wax I use & I don’t experience any issues with the hot or cold scent throw now that I tried different techniques.. stirring my wax for a good amount of time to help the scent oil bind with the wax has helped greatly. Temp you pour it into the jars has helped with the frosting & sink holes & changing the wick has helped with the burning.

    • @plantifulhearts5204
      @plantifulhearts5204 3 роки тому

      what temperature do you pour them? I always have so much frosting.

  • @melindabernier1778
    @melindabernier1778 Рік тому

    Hello yes I could use some for testing and I am just getting started been making candles for a year now it's little hard to keep scents so any extra would be great for test or how much would you charge for some scents really could use some this video help me alot thanks I try the co co one. For test or making candles.

  • @malaysiarock3231
    @malaysiarock3231 3 роки тому

    What is wickless testing?
    I’m starting testing now. So do I need to guess wicks to test my wax and FO, then test for wicks as a final test stage kinda thing?

  • @justjeanne1458
    @justjeanne1458 3 роки тому +1

    I've only ever used 464 and I really like it. It has its quirks but I roll with them lol. I bought some EcoSoya CB135 wax to try but my understanding is that you need LX wicks for it, which haven't been available. Have you tried that wax at all? Thanks for another great video! Jeanne @HarvestHerbals

  • @jadejenzen8694
    @jadejenzen8694 3 роки тому

    Id love to see you try out kerasoy container wax 4130

  • @LadySarah370
    @LadySarah370 Рік тому

    Girl I will be testing soon I have a ton of FO too from Soaping lol

  • @mirandasmarathon5671
    @mirandasmarathon5671 3 роки тому

    Hi Erica, do you have a backup supplier to purchase soy 10 from? I'd love to try it but I see CCS is sold out.

  • @thejoneslounge
    @thejoneslounge 3 роки тому +2

    So would you say 100% alone was the best out of the three? I use 464 (I can’t get soy 10 in Canada) and I’ve done so much testing with 464 alone and with coconut wax and I honest prefer 464 by itself. Coconut wax added burns so much quicker, too. I personally didn’t find any benefits to adding coconut wax. So glad I have 50lbs of it.. 😂😂😂

  • @saritawiggins9984
    @saritawiggins9984 3 роки тому

    Would you recommend using solid soy wax verses flaky soy wax?

  • @ania9053
    @ania9053 3 роки тому +2

    I'm from UK and we don't have so many different waxes. I tried few 464,444,c3 and more. 464 was best and easiest to work with. The broblem for me was always those sinkholes around wick, underneath. I wish there was a way to scan a candle and see what's inside :( becouse of that I don't feel confident start selling them. Meybe I will try poking all of them and use heat gun so I can be sure :/

  • @melindat5711
    @melindat5711 3 роки тому +1

    I bought 464 a few years back when people were complaining that something was wrong with the batches. I did everything that experts recommended to do. Got the wick size down but HT was very minimal. I was very disappointed to say the least. Been using 6006, Coco 83 and Joy waxes. I love 6046 but the wax starts to discolor after burning 3/4 of the candle. But the HT is amazing.

  • @timbeadell2492
    @timbeadell2492 Рік тому

    Hi Erica, What soy wax do you like to use best?

  • @kaylaunderhill8307
    @kaylaunderhill8307 2 роки тому

    I also get almost no hot throw from 464 I’ve tried many different things that could potentially help but no luck, I ended up adding 12% fragrance load

  • @Levithecreator
    @Levithecreator 3 роки тому +6

    I started with 444 and 464 was a big upgrade in regards to hot throw and smooth creamy tops. I've poured hundreds of 464 since and rarely need to heat gun them unless it's a certain type of fragrance oil. I pour much lower at 150 and tend to get perfect adhesion to apothecary style jars and whiskey/tumbler glasses. I've been super impressed! Was also skeptical given what others have mentioned online. Guess it all comes down to testing.. I didn't like the EcoSoya CB-Advanced tho, it had a terrible plastic smell and was tough to work with compared to 464. I'd love to test Soy 10 someday when it's back in stock and 16/17 are sourcing a new all-soy blend without the food-grade paraffin which sounds amazing as well.

    • @Bella_0303
      @Bella_0303 3 роки тому

      What wicks do you like using with 464?

    • @Levithecreator
      @Levithecreator 3 роки тому

      @@Bella_0303 I like CD-2, CD-3 and ECO-2's for most of my vessels. They are all doubled up, so x2 of each wick per vessel to get a 3" to 3.5" diameter melt pool

    • @lizgomez7213
      @lizgomez7213 Рік тому

      Which wick do you recommend me to use if the diameter of my candle is 9.5 cm?

  • @glbarc
    @glbarc Рік тому

    Which soy wax soja do you recommend to make candles that do not crack as much?

  • @aundreaweekly8706
    @aundreaweekly8706 3 роки тому

    Where do you recommend getting the Soy10 wax & the TW-30 wax you suggests from?

  • @mateoalvarez5579
    @mateoalvarez5579 3 роки тому

    How long should I let my candles cure before testing the burn of a new wick?

  • @tofuandeljefe8049
    @tofuandeljefe8049 3 роки тому

    Just wondering if pets are ok to be around while making candles? I have a puppy and im just concerned that it might be too strong for him.

  • @jessicaburford6029
    @jessicaburford6029 3 роки тому

    How do you change out the wicks once you’ve burned the candle?

  • @hayleipittsley8759
    @hayleipittsley8759 3 роки тому

    Hey Erica! I’ve watched almost all your videos and haven’t seen one on if you let your candles cure and if you do how long do you let them cure?!

  • @stacyrichardson4997
    @stacyrichardson4997 3 роки тому

    I get smooth tops all the time