Avenger 85
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- I hope you are all well and staying warm! I’m not sure how we got here but let's go! I have been following Ken Henson on facebook I think for about 5ish months and there pather to the Avenger 85. By the time I found them they were already in the early testing days. I wasn’t sure if it was real or not but the guys seemed real and had passion for this project. So I just kicked back and watched. Well, their hard work has arrived at Grendel’s Garage door step. We are just unboxing and prepping the engine. Stay toned because I have some questions for you vets at the end!! Ride save my friends!! Happy Holidays
Looks like it has lots of potential. FYI the 4 holes in the cranks are alignment holes when they assemble the cranks in a fixture. But also help with balance. Next answers is the crank balanced ? No but kinda.😅 if your willing to dissambl the engine and weigh the rotating piston wp circlips bearing and small end of rod. Follow the steps on two stroke stuffing balancing cranks. Put it on a balancing rail or stand and remove the proper amount to achieve the % of desired balance factor then your crank will be balanced. But that being said great advice on allways flushing and cleaning engines before assembling. sqish gap dictates the base gasket / head gasket thicknesses when assembling. Make sure intake and exhaust port faces are flat as well. Also would take my time and put a evenly chamfer on all ports . Lube it all up and let it ripp. At that point you did all you can do to prevent careless common engine failures . Great video.
Brother you answered every questions i had and more!! Thank you for sharing. I will check out that video by 2 strokestuffing. Love that guy. One day his engine might run 🏃♂️, but a good guy. 👍 there is some interesting drama unfolding right now about this motor. Hoping to cover it next week. Hope your back is holding up! And happy holidays 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Great comment... I will add that you can't completely Ballance a single cylinder but you can get it better than what china does..
How I look at it is 80% is going to vibrate 1/2 as much as 40 and again less at 10k RPM... That's 1/2 the beating on everything so if double the power it should last about like a out of the box one...
i like the fact that the exhaust port is at a slight angle so the pipe doesn't have to stick out as far
Well I finally get to see one and I know I'll get to see one run I have been told about this motor or engine however you want to call it by at least 20 people I do like some of what I see thank you for posting brother I appreciate it looking forward to see this thing run Merry Christmas to you and your family and you ride safe brother together
Thanks so much, Kevin! Happy holidays to you as well. I'm excited to see what this thing can do. I feel we will see more power in the lower range. With mods, I'm sure this could be something else. Ride safe 🙏 ❤❤🎉🎉
Oh man those ports look like a chain saw and minarelli mixed👀 might have to get one
I'm jacked and I would agree with you. It's a little mix of both. Overall, I'm very happy with how it's looking.
This is going to be my first ever motor bike build, I'm a huge dude so I need every bit of power and cooling I can get. Gamble on such a new engine, but I always gravitate towards the bleeding edge.
Send it!!! Haha, if you are a bigger guy, something like this motor would be a good start. But you're right. They are new so we don't know how they will hold up. But overall, I'm liking what I'm seeing 👀 🙂 ❤❤🎉🎉🎉. Good luck! 👍
You should go with a bigger sprocket. The bigger they are the more torque you'll have but less speed. They come in like 6 different sizes
Thanks for sharing brother I was wondering if there were differences between phantom 85 and the avenger 85 yes here is a few yours has 2 piece cylinder and head and 2 piece exhaust and better exhaust and intake gasket phantom has Reed valve window piston head and cylinder one piece and exhaust is one piece and the hand grips are different your going to love ❤ the low end torque ride safe grendel and enjoy your new toy 👍
Looks super legit
Thanks so much, Mike. I think you hit all the difference between the Phantom and the Avenger. I agree, I feel there will be more in the lower power band on this bad boy! Thanks again, and happy holidays!
Sweet I like seeing these I have one too but my wife won't let me have it until Christmas 😢 hope you have fun with it
Oh no!!! Well, we are almost there. I'm taking the build slow 🐌. I have some things we might have to talk about this coming Friday. Good luck and happy holidays 😊
Lot of potential right there going to be a great motor brother can’t wait to see it in action thanks for sharing
My man!!! Thank you very much. I'm so pumped 🤪 😂😂😂. I think it will have some good power in the lower end. I'm not sure how it will do, up top 🤔 but only one way to find out!
Hell yeah going to be a sweet little motor bro
@Littleevil9975 thank!! Something are starting to pop up... interesting stuff 🤔 🎉🎉
lol "FRUM CHOINNAA" bro this thing is a wolf in sheeps clothing. With that exhaust and huge port she'll make sum power out of the box. Sleeper looks like a regular 66/80 at first glance.
Let's just say I'm pumped for this motor 😤 🤪. It really does just look like a China doll 😂.
Nice keep up the good work my guy
Thanks so much! It's been a blast ✨️ can't wait to get this bad boy going!
@@grendelsgarage9723 you welcome & I'm waiting on my parts come in and then I can get my bike start up and then do my next project
Hope they come fast my man! ❤❤ best of luck. I hear the next project calling me too haha 😄 😅😅😅
OK, so I lowered the oil content in my fuel mix and stuck a 72 jet in the speed carb. It liked that very much. Runs much better now. Looking forward to rippin it around in the spring.
What is you4 fuel rato? Okay, 72 on the speed carb. I like that 👌. I have a knock-off speed carb that I've been wanting to use.
Great intro hahaha 😂😅 that motor looks noice 👌
Thanks so much. I'm enjoying the piss out of it! Hope she last. So far so good.
I love my avenger 85 its a beast.. definitely look into get a smolik head for it. Completely changes the torque curve in the hi rpm .
I ended up pulling the trigger and ordered one 🙃 🤪. Idk when it will be here, but I can't wait!. I'm happy to hear it has helped the torque curve. Ride safe!!
Nice. I also pulled the trigger and ordered two for my two avengers. Im excited as well
Maybe pick up a tracer ace bike for this engine I like how it has forward pedals
I'm going to have to research that bike. I don't know anything about it. Thanks for the info.
I just ordered the kit for CMB and the head from Gomax I got some extra cylinders with it in case these sell out quickly $200 and everything I was hoping the phuckum would be in one go !
I do have high hopes for this engine. Heck ya man your going to be set! I saw the gomax heads are only 70 right now!
@@grendelsgarage9723 yes everything is marked down lately I'm going to use a weisco bearing and cw12 clips and see how the ms380 piston looks in it? Dukes has a coated piston I got for a phantom cylinder and I have a 040 piston that's a little shorter than the 038 it's going to be brutal 🤪
Oh wow 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 bro that will be off the charts! So pumped for you! I bet that piston will run so smooth too! ❤❤
Thinking about an 8mm adapter plate to use a KTM sx 65 flange and pipe mounted in rubber so it isn't solid to the motor like on the bike and I'm working on a KX65 reed and Dio adapter combo with boysen reeds window the piston but a single window the with of the port So the charge hits the connecting rod... True and Ballance the crank FAG bearings FKM seals PGN has the big end bearing
Tack weld the crank pin on 3 places each end so it stays true... Bunch of other stuff I'm just buying the castings all the roller parts and clutch gets something
@JasonBurque-nk4xh brother sounds like quite the project. Interesting thought on a window on the piston being big enough to hit the connecting rod 👍 good luck and keep me posted one it! 👍
The Phantoms intake angles down to the crankcase. The problem is that they're not finned properly for cooling. That's the same bottom end as the Phantom.
Geart information!! From what I've seen, yes, same bottom end. Ride safe!!
Nice intro, dude.
Thanks Leo! Hope your well.
I'm waiting for new engine to come out in 2024 right now everything is same zeda 80, phantom 85,yd100 where is the new engine even this engine been out just not here in the us
There is nothing wrong with waiting for the next one to come out. You know there will be many more, I'm sure. I am excited about this build.
I dunno if a reed valve, window piston & 3rd intake tranfer/boost port is a good idea or not on these?
...I'd rather go piston port unless the carburetor is spitting lot's of gas out.....I think the curved intaked is maybe supposed to reduce carb spit back? ....I had to to use a straight shorty intake for clearance issues & it had lots of spitting. It made a mess & got poor mpgs. So I went to a reed/window piston = better mpgs no more spitting. I only got more power when I added in a 3rd intake transfer & boost port.
I bet this engine will rip pretty good with just the ports cleaned up & rounded/beveled edges. Better carb & welded up expansion pipe.
I can't decide between 100cc 4 stroke kit with engine hp mods or the Avenger 🤪 With a stronger gemini rear hub & avenger 85 I could make a stealth motorcycle.
I just hope they'll start making more high speed ebike tires.
It makes sense in my head that having the raised intake would help with spit back to the carb. Haha yes , it's a good time to be in the hobby 😄 so many choices!!!! ❤🎉. I'm happy I cleaned up the ports. I mostly tried to increase the chanfers on all the ports. I will say, I don't think you will be disappointed if you did get the Avenger 85. Ride safe!! 🎉🎉🎉
What was the price on it if u dont mind me asking
🎉🎉🎉 200 pluse shipping. Very very good price.
5 holes is a balanced crank 23:35
2 holes is stock
Do you remember what rod was in it? I just received an avenger from California motorbikes and I only used one bass gasket if I want a thinner squish I’m going to have to sand the cylinder down. I wonder if there is a different crank or rod in mine
The rod reads (YD85CC) I think the bottom ends are the same from Californiamotorbikes.com and Ken Hinson. But I'm starting to wonder if the cylinders are slightly different. Not in port layout but in tallness 🤔🤔🤔
It's interesting. I went for a 35km or 21mile break in cruise. it runs great. Even running at 24 to 1
Im wondering if a reed valve would eliminate the issue with the rings being too low/being able to see them thru the intake on bdc? As i have a 49mm iron sleeve that when you clean up the sleeve a tiny bit exposes both piston rings and im thinking a reed valve would seal off any pressure that would blow back into the carburetor but idk its just a theory. Im gonna try it
Will any aftermarket exaust fit on that?
As of right now, no. I'm sure they are coming 😅😅. The boys at Smokil Performance do make a flang so people can weld a pipe together.
I don't see why they made the exhaust 2 piece. It's the same as the phantom 85 except it's a 2 piece
Do you oil or grease the bearings inside the bottom end after rinsing out with gasoline ?
De cuantos mm es el pistón?
Piston is 52mm with 1 piston ring. Hope that helps.
Does this have as much power as the phantom 85?
The boys at Smokil Performance ran the Avenger 85 stock and the phantom 85 stock on their Dino. The Phantom 👻 made over all more power. It's posted on their Facebook and on UA-cam. But remember, the Avenger 85 is about 100 cheaper and might have more overall potential. Lastly, it has better better cooling stock 😎 👌
Did you use the rubber mounts
I didn't use rubby mounts. I try not too but sometimes you have to. Good luck!
@@grendelsgarage9723 yeah just wondering. I've found the more solid its mounted the smoother it operates
How did it run??
I'm posting my first ride this coming Friday. 😃😃😃😃😃🤩🤩🤩🤩🤐🤐🤐
@@grendelsgarage9723 is the engine still running good?
@joseayala6981 Better now 🤗🤗🤗🤑🤑🤑. So far, so good 👍
Nope hahaha