How Hoyoverse Got CAUGHT SCAMMING Players

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 634

  • @Artonecy
    @Artonecy  2 місяці тому +412

    DEVS LISTENED!
    Why do people still defend this company again?

    • @Rahul-rj7xs
      @Rahul-rj7xs 2 місяці тому +8

      what do you mean, this isntt hoyo game so talk about pgr

    • @ade5525
      @ade5525 2 місяці тому +43

      They listen when the judge calls them
      Also wuwa effect start to hit hard

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 2 місяці тому +8

      Simple, cost sunk fallacy

    • @Carsu12
      @Carsu12 2 місяці тому +5

      Becaause they don't want to feel dumb about time and money they spent

    • @nebuchadness
      @nebuchadness 2 місяці тому +29

      People who defends Hoyo:
      1. Those who spend Time & money on the Game.
      2. Those who loves loli's, pedos and some weirdos.
      3. Those who simply love the game as casuals and pure f2p.
      4. Paid bots making many accounts to serve as Whiteknights against any CC & people in comments that are against Hoyo games.
      Take your pick.

  • @Es3re
    @Es3re 2 місяці тому +841

    global : complains
    muhehe : fvkc you
    CN : complains
    muhehe : oh i am so sorry my dearest PLAYERS, here a 1600 primos

    • @thatrandomguy7944
      @thatrandomguy7944 2 місяці тому

      I tought it was comon knowlage that chinese incels are very racist and don't want black people in genshin. And if the incels dont want it, hoyo doesn't do it

    • @ZeonplayzYt
      @ZeonplayzYt 2 місяці тому

      That's racist towards chinese people

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong 2 місяці тому +30

      muhehe? now this is new

    • @killerpanda2086
      @killerpanda2086 2 місяці тому +41

      more like CN: dangled a court summons in front of them

    • @眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ
      @眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ 2 місяці тому +21

      interesting. The cn community thinks that they are not taken seriously by mhy. It takes overseas communities to protest before mhy will take the issue seriously. However, overseas communities believe that mhy only values ​​the cn community.

  • @freespeechisdead7233
    @freespeechisdead7233 2 місяці тому +208

    The real Genshin endgame is when you fight against the developer.

    • @idontspeakjapanese6289
      @idontspeakjapanese6289 2 місяці тому +10

      Nah nah it's when the CCP decides to pay a visit to Hoyoverse

    • @NathRebornsK
      @NathRebornsK 2 місяці тому

      @@idontspeakjapanese6289
      CCP will visit both Hoyoverse and Kuro Games.
      Discussing about balance and bug changes, but remain stronger flow and damage racking.
      This is the better reason.

    • @xOrionNebula2708
      @xOrionNebula2708 2 місяці тому +2

      @@idontspeakjapanese6289 lmao

    • @johnb.d
      @johnb.d 2 місяці тому +1

      Hoyoverse are the Heavenly Principles

    • @NathRebornsK
      @NathRebornsK 2 місяці тому

      Why did my previous comment deleted?
      I said it again:
      Both Hoyoverse and Kuro Games will discuss about balancing, albeit remain S or A tier as the outcome, to the CCP.

  • @darmansbar7900
    @darmansbar7900 2 місяці тому +1120

    I hate that people use "THEY LISTENED"
    No, they GOT CAUGHT attempting to scam people and paid the fucking price

    • @Rahul-rj7xs
      @Rahul-rj7xs 2 місяці тому +96

      yeah, people are happy they listened, when they were literally nerfing your hard earned character for more money in future

    • @popcorn520
      @popcorn520 2 місяці тому +89

      typical hoyo fans they'll always be like "Be gRaTefUL fOr WhaTeVer YoU GeT"

    • @Doro-bashi
      @Doro-bashi 2 місяці тому +68

      @@darmansbar7900 they praising the thief that returned what was stolen xD

    • @Rahul-rj7xs
      @Rahul-rj7xs 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Doro-bashi lol

    • @unblockablelegoblock4839
      @unblockablelegoblock4839 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@Doro-bashibetter than nothing amiright 😂

  • @saturna1576
    @saturna1576 2 місяці тому +239

    They only listen to Feedback, when CN physically and legally threatens them, a win is a win I guess

  • @yamakaze3761
    @yamakaze3761 2 місяці тому +290

    "how do we sell well about this new hydro dps in 5.0?"
    "nerf that water boy now!"

    • @abdullamamun8812
      @abdullamamun8812 2 місяці тому +51

      Mission failed - Consumer fraud has been issued 😂😂

    • @Lolwhattheheck
      @Lolwhattheheck 2 місяці тому +8

      Bruh as Neuvi main, I would be mad as heck if they got away with it

    • @ecrnm0b
      @ecrnm0b 2 місяці тому +5

      theyre nerfing literally the strongest playable character in lore😭💀💀

  • @Mockermay
    @Mockermay 2 місяці тому +820

    The Power of CN Community is terrifying 😨

  • @kinja9816
    @kinja9816 2 місяці тому +69

    according to the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale, we declare Hoyoverse guilty

  • @kofitamakloe3862
    @kofitamakloe3862 2 місяці тому +354

    They are just nerfing him to increase the amount of 'potential' money they will make from the new natlan character people are claiming will powercreep him

    • @clawsthewolf89
      @clawsthewolf89 2 місяці тому +15

      Pretty much

    • @Bullminator
      @Bullminator 2 місяці тому +48

      Remember they nerfed Venti (with big mobs), Mona c1 still not fixed, they tried same shit with yae totems, but we barely got anything back for backlash at that day...............oh and zhongli....

    • @legotoilet-paper
      @legotoilet-paper 2 місяці тому

      Like they nerfed Venti for Kazhuhu

    • @Bullminator
      @Bullminator 2 місяці тому +2

      @dad6666_ Yeah but no1 gives a crap abauth barbarabruh since she keeps frezzing.

  • @Razor3000-u3f
    @Razor3000-u3f 2 місяці тому +286

    This just shows that Hoyo doesn't even care that much about CN unless the government hears of it or there's a possibility of lawsuits. Like yeah, CN might be the favorite child but even they can't get their way with everything unless the authorities start side-eyeing the devs...the more you know!✨️

    • @aldomeylano9278
      @aldomeylano9278 2 місяці тому +2

      Lads...
      They didnt also listened to the 4.4. incident

    • @youravghuman5231
      @youravghuman5231 2 місяці тому

      There are also possibility of an assassination.

    • @xOrionNebula2708
      @xOrionNebula2708 2 місяці тому

      @@aldomeylano9278 well im very sure that the chinese community now knows they have a tool that can have hoyo peeing their pants with fear

  • @Akiro367
    @Akiro367 2 місяці тому +146

    Wow cn community reports hoyo to the government they break their necks to roll the update back this is just to dam funny

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator 2 місяці тому +357

    Only 1600 --- I DEMAND 4800

    • @EzioIV
      @EzioIV 2 місяці тому +42

      it should be 16.000

    • @眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ
      @眼鏡をかけた野うさぎ 2 місяці тому +31

      Did you know that according to statistics, there are about 1600 primos fewer in 4.8 than 3.8?

    • @Cmix-cs2sq
      @Cmix-cs2sq 2 місяці тому +9

      @@眼鏡をかけた野うさぎi dont remember how much did we get in 3.8 but thats the case then damn

    • @marianieves8988
      @marianieves8988 2 місяці тому

      And a free copy

    • @cheekyslime1437
      @cheekyslime1437 2 місяці тому +2

      It should be 16M

  • @mtscsealer1973
    @mtscsealer1973 2 місяці тому +181

    They fucked up so bad that they give us 10 summons for that PATHETIC

    • @Bos_Meong
      @Bos_Meong 2 місяці тому +25

      should be atleast free 5 star selector limited

    • @idkatthispoint-s9s
      @idkatthispoint-s9s 2 місяці тому +8

      Y'all are so desperate for freebies omfg. Start paying if you want extra pulls instead of pathetically demanding for free primogems and 5-stars.
      A 10 pull is more than enough for this situation and is overkill imo. Mihoyo is just afraid of the backlash and freebies tends to get people like you guys to shut up.

    • @mtscsealer1973
      @mtscsealer1973 2 місяці тому +31

      @idkatthispoint-s9s nah Ill accept that if they gave it as a reward for our dedication, this is not for that, its literally an apology, then a slap to your face and make that 10 times

    • @timbridger4681
      @timbridger4681 2 місяці тому +35

      ​@@idkatthispoint-s9scertified glazer

    • @SnowingTooth
      @SnowingTooth 2 місяці тому +36

      ​@@idkatthispoint-s9s I guess 3 pulls for 3 years of playing the game was enough then?

  • @donewastingtime7939
    @donewastingtime7939 2 місяці тому +189

    This case is absolutely hilarious, but it does go to show that Hoyo (Genshin's team) will only ever listen if you have legit legal action to take against them.
    If CN didn't have laws about post-nerfs (adjustments) when it came to limited characters (which precisely exist due to scummy practices like these), they would 100% just swipe this under the rug. See 3 wishes outrage, which was way larger in scale even in CN, but nothing was done about it because... It wasn't illegal.
    If Hoyo wanted to play it smart, they would've put notice that Neuvilette has this bug and that will be fixed. That way nobody could accuse them of scam. But they didn't. and this specific bug was mass reported since beta, so there is no way Hoyo didn't knew about it. Especially with 7 months later from his release, whole rerun, and they only "fix" it now when Natlan character in the same role is about to drop. They did this with Barbara too when Nilou was releasing, but they could get away with it because she was a free 4*. Neuvilette was not. He's someone that average CN player more than payed for because f2p is dying breed over there.
    Even Zhongoli thing was ignored until it got so big that the threat of them being accused for anti-China propaganda for making China God so weak, became too real for their liking so they panic fixed him... Which wasn't enough, so they did it again to shut everyone up before outrage got out of hand once more.
    Tl;Dr: Daddy Hoyo won't listen to CN either unless they are dealing with the type of case that could get them in legal troubles

    • @No-Ink
      @No-Ink 2 місяці тому +13

      The whole Dehya situation was scummy as well. Making her kit terrible and have poor scaling and then putting her on the standard banner to take advantage of people that just wanted her.
      I stopped playing Genshin after that and never went back.

    • @poooooya6369
      @poooooya6369 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@No-Ink take advantage of them... I don't think so. they can get dehya more easily isn't it?

    • @alpha4935
      @alpha4935 2 місяці тому

      THIS guy gets it!

    • @No-Ink
      @No-Ink 2 місяці тому

      @@poooooya6369 I meant that if people who wanted her, they had to better pull for her while she still had limited banner, or else once she went on the standard banner the odds to get her became slim to none. They put her on the standard to excuse her terrible kit and bad stat scaling. But they still wanted squeeze any money from people so they took advantage of people that just wanted her.

    • @htet2002linn
      @htet2002linn 2 місяці тому +2

      @@poooooya6369 do you think so. Sometime the standard character are hard to get.I been play for three years and I even don't have all of standard character.

  • @amrradwan1055
    @amrradwan1055 2 місяці тому +99

    People had children in the time they had to fix this 💀

  • @nangirb1
    @nangirb1 2 місяці тому +132

    somehow i have a hunch that someone from natlan (probably the archon or archon equivalent) was planned to have a strong aoe, thus nerfing neullivette would help that agenda, lol

    • @htet2002linn
      @htet2002linn 2 місяці тому +6

      May be pyro archon you know there is still no off field pyro applyer yet.

    • @aikon_nara
      @aikon_nara 2 місяці тому +1

      I was fr thinking that too, it would make sense to nerf him but it should've been done around the time of neuvillette's release

    • @Radiant450
      @Radiant450 2 місяці тому +10

      @@aikon_naranerfs cannot happen in most gachas, not after beta is done. When I buy a product from a company the company cannot go and take back my product that I am satisfied with and change it in any way they see fit. Since many dump loads of money on the characters (whales) hoyo cannot just make drastic changes like this post beta.
      However I don’t think hoyo did this maliciously for Natlan, heck even if they did neither Mualani (hydro and most likely a dps) nor some other AoE dps will probably match a “fixed” Neuvi, let alone normal Neuvi, he is just turbo busted and very hard if not impossible to powercreep without making an identical character on a different element.

    • @Neuvillete4.6
      @Neuvillete4.6 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@aikon_naraonly western games are "allowed" to be nerfed

    • @Neuvillete4.6
      @Neuvillete4.6 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Radiant450he's easy . A hydro character that bypasses immunity

  • @vixbob2356
    @vixbob2356 2 місяці тому +22

    At this point it's not GenshinCouldNever anymore, it's GenshinCouldButChooseNotTo

  • @shirio45
    @shirio45 2 місяці тому +69

    weakest boycott in history

    • @noobscoopsies1100
      @noobscoopsies1100 2 місяці тому +20

      I give that to the 4.4 boycott to be honest, it even weaker than this, because all of those "Boycott Hoyoverse" Thingy suddenly got shut by Xianyun big milkies...

    • @bluebros1813
      @bluebros1813 2 місяці тому

      Yep​@@noobscoopsies1100

  • @jaystrike3270
    @jaystrike3270 2 місяці тому +16

    Funny how people were willing to go to court for the character that's a judge.
    I think the reason why they reacted to harshly is because of how much Hoyo would ignore people and hope the problem dies down.Thing is,if you just ignore some peoples problem sure they would stop after a while but the feelings don't really go away. Next time you mess up the backlash will be harsher and if you keep ignoring it, the backlash will reach a point where stuff like this happens. It would be very very difficult to calm the player base next time you mess up since now they know what to do to make you listen. I geninely wonder what would happen at the Anniversary when they give the same amount as last year.

    • @yurilowell4213
      @yurilowell4213 2 місяці тому +1

      I saw someone else say that deal about the anniversary was pushed under the rug because there was no actual "law" against it, but in China apparently there is a law against changing "limited gacha characters," in other words 5 stars, after release. Which was the case here, and it was 7 months after his release when a bunch of players must have spent a lot to get him, the lawsuit wasn't more in reach than this i'm afraid.
      Lawsuit goes brrr lol🤣.

  • @ゆきの-s5j
    @ゆきの-s5j 2 місяці тому +68

    if ccp find out you scamming people no matter who u are ur company will disappear in few hours thats why mihoyo panicked

    • @hexon336
      @hexon336 2 місяці тому +2

      Isn't reverting this fix a scam too? The tech is not possible for people playing with controllers. Maybe pulled for him to be able to use this feature of the character but because of the platform I'm on, I can't do it. That sounds pretty scummy to me and all controller users should report this so they can have equal access to this feature.

    • @LUCAS420BLZ
      @LUCAS420BLZ 2 місяці тому +12

      ​@@hexon336 he's strong enough to clear abyss without needing this though so it was so strange they changed it 9 months after it was reported several times in the beta
      Remind you of anything (cough Zzz)

    • @oof3821
      @oof3821 2 місяці тому

      ​​​@@hexon336how is it scummy or a scam, if a controller player summons for him with the intent to use "spin to win" not realising its impossible for them then their head has a few problems, anyone can literally play a trial of the character before summoning and see it doesnt work on controller

  • @Salty_Gacha_Gamer
    @Salty_Gacha_Gamer 2 місяці тому +12

    It's not Devs listened to CN Players, it's just that CCP have Mihoyo's balls in a vice and the CN players can somewhat control that vice

  • @Cynndora
    @Cynndora 2 місяці тому +16

    Mihoyo: "we don't care"
    Mihoyo being threatened by their CN playerbase: "free 10 pull, we're sorry"
    all this does is encourage them to continue with these threats in the future, because it works and it seems to be the only thing that does work.
    Man i can't wait to see what kinda bonuses they spit out when someone makes another attempt at murder.

  • @mitzi3262
    @mitzi3262 2 місяці тому +67

    I honestly don't think hoyo would lose the case that it was a bug, it was some random mechanic that was never advertised or mentioned anywhere in his kit and it doesn't even work for console players, and you need a 3rd party software to do it.The scummy part though would be to keep this bug for the re run and then to try to patch it after. This shows that they knew of the bug existing but didn't care till another hydro dps came out.

    • @mitzi3262
      @mitzi3262 2 місяці тому +10

      The only reason they did this was to save face not being afraid of a lawsuit

    • @quint2568
      @quint2568 2 місяці тому +3

      you do not need a 3rd party software....

    • @fanafelgminecraft5789
      @fanafelgminecraft5789 2 місяці тому +1

      all you needed was a mouse

    • @Kaihiwatari705
      @Kaihiwatari705 2 місяці тому

      ​@@fanafelgminecraft5789a good mouse

  • @abyssia6440
    @abyssia6440 2 місяці тому +33

    If you see the list of players playing genshin ( in twitter post) , top 3 is Japan , S.Korea and The Philippines (ofc china is 1 in their own) but USA is nowhere near found in the top 25 countries playing genshin. So only small % are playing in the west

    • @GummyDinosaursify
      @GummyDinosaursify 2 місяці тому +6

      "small percentage" isn't really accurate, as active players is around 62 million with 500k average online during the day. Less players then the other server is more accurate.

    • @thatonepolishguy3773
      @thatonepolishguy3773 2 місяці тому +5

      The US is not "the west"

    • @abyssia6440
      @abyssia6440 2 місяці тому

      @@thatonepolishguy3773 so US is East?

    • @thatonepolishguy3773
      @thatonepolishguy3773 2 місяці тому +5

      @@abyssia6440 notice that the words are in quotation marks. What I mean is that the US does not represent the entire western hemisphere. According to Strawpoll, Europe's server is the second largest by player count, following behind the Asia server. The Americas are on the fourth spot, and so the US's position is not representative of the west as a whole.

  • @Wakingclouds
    @Wakingclouds 2 місяці тому +61

    wuwa fixed them
    damn

    • @edgelord21
      @edgelord21 2 місяці тому +2

      Lmao wuwa can't even fix their optimization

    • @Wakingclouds
      @Wakingclouds 2 місяці тому

      @@edgelord21 say the guy with Pokémon pfp.. who probably enjoy playing genshin and jerk of to 3 wishes..

    • @solidsudlon69
      @solidsudlon69 2 місяці тому +13

      ​@@edgelord21even genshin take 4 years to optimize their game just wait on wuwa fixing it.

    • @richardpickle5969
      @richardpickle5969 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@edgelord21it's running fine on my pc the only issue is it's not releasing on PS5 and stutter in old Android and ios devices

    • @Triyanto-kz8ep
      @Triyanto-kz8ep 2 місяці тому

      @@solidsudlon69 genshin only take 1 path to fix their optimize lol ,in liyue there no low optimize ,still i play both
      from what u get that inform genshin take 4 years lol

  • @Emerald-kun
    @Emerald-kun 2 місяці тому +9

    Just how many more wake-up calls do the community need to realize that while the Genshin devs might very, very rarely listen, they don't listen to *you*?

    • @AF_frfr
      @AF_frfr 2 місяці тому +2

      I think with this situation more people are becoming aware of this, and WuWa is definitely helping people realize how terribly Hoyo treats their fans

  • @AquaYEE
    @AquaYEE 2 місяці тому +20

    Though the comparison may not be of the same intensity, 360 degree Neuvillette spinning at impossibly high speed is to Genshin what the backwards long jump is to Super Mario 64: A funny bug that is essential to optimally playing. Though the fraud proof at 2:24 is 100% valid, I just find this hilarious as a ftp who plays casually lmao. free 10 pull!

  • @indrainspace2601
    @indrainspace2601 2 місяці тому +24

    This has to be the first time in years that genshin players got actual rewards

  • @quinta0w035
    @quinta0w035 2 місяці тому +21

    West: "They didnt give me my chocolate baddies NOOOOO!!!! "
    China: "You nerf my boy I'm going to fucking report you"

    • @bluebros1813
      @bluebros1813 2 місяці тому +10

      More like this for CN:
      You changed something that hardly impacts gameplay, now we're gonna get your whole company shut down because I can't do 360 no scopes with an otter

    • @fanafelgminecraft5789
      @fanafelgminecraft5789 2 місяці тому +3

      @@bluebros1813 i mean it did effect the gameplay alot from what i have seen

    • @ShiningShade__
      @ShiningShade__ 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@bluebros1813 I mean, some CN dude did report them to government as well because he payed for summer swimsuit Herrscher of Void outfit just for it to be given out for free few patches later 💀 it caused them to remove all swimsuit outfits that were mostly bikinis and it all just because of a single Chinese man that felt scammed by them (honestly I'd be mad too)
      so I'm not surprised that they jumped on HoYo again and this time all for a minor change that is a huge nerf

  • @chris-ob6mu
    @chris-ob6mu 2 місяці тому +6

    At this point its not the GI devs that are the circus, its the stans that still defends the game for its shitty practices.

  • @nguyennhatkhanh4408
    @nguyennhatkhanh4408 2 місяці тому +21

    classic zhongli moment from mihoho

  • @raikumokun5595
    @raikumokun5595 2 місяці тому +59

    THEY LISTEN❎
    THEY LISTEN TO CN COMMUNITY ✅

  • @AF_frfr
    @AF_frfr 2 місяці тому +4

    It says a lot about a company when it takes a lawsuit for them to listen to their community, Hoyo has absolutely been shooting themselves in the foot lately

    • @rickynguyen5108
      @rickynguyen5108 2 місяці тому +3

      For real. Just goes to show that Mihoyo is a greedy-ass company that will do anything to squeeze money out of you.

    • @rickynguyen5108
      @rickynguyen5108 2 місяці тому +1

      Don't forget that Mihoyo changed their company name to Hoyoverse to avoid trouble from the CCP. They will always be Mihoyo, no matter what names they take.

    • @AF_frfr
      @AF_frfr 2 місяці тому

      @@rickynguyen5108 wait I thought Mihoyo was its own company and then made Hoyoverse as a separate entity, they had to change their name from Mihoyo? Why?

    • @rickynguyen5108
      @rickynguyen5108 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AF_frfr
      From what Soul said before, Mihoyo changed their name to Hoyoverse to avoid trouble with the CCP.

    • @AF_frfr
      @AF_frfr 2 місяці тому

      @@rickynguyen5108 what was wrong with their name?

  • @vladabond1904
    @vladabond1904 2 місяці тому +1

    I just quit playing Genshin for Wuthering Waves a long time ago and stopped caring about hoyoverse's stupidity. It's saving me money.

  • @jacktheripper7935
    @jacktheripper7935 2 місяці тому +15

    If only CN spoke about Dehya...

    • @Jaxv3r
      @Jaxv3r 2 місяці тому +6

      Dehya got some backlash but this one is different, Neuvillette is already released and then nerf him, while Dehya is shit since Day 1 of release, and her being a standard 5*.

    • @idontspeakjapanese6289
      @idontspeakjapanese6289 2 місяці тому +3

      China pretty much hates tanned characters hence why there isn't much talk about her

    • @jacktheripper7935
      @jacktheripper7935 2 місяці тому

      @@Jaxv3r Dehya isn't sh*t because she's in standard, she's in standard because she was sh*t.

    • @lawfulgoodnun1646
      @lawfulgoodnun1646 2 місяці тому

      She's not pasty white so they hate her and don't care.

  • @ericcardinal9138
    @ericcardinal9138 2 місяці тому +25

    correct me if i'm wrong, but during the 3 wish dram,am wuwa wasn't released yet. well... i now hope there will be more and more drama. thank you wuwa, for forcing hoyo to be more generous by simply existing.

    • @Kaihiwatari705
      @Kaihiwatari705 2 місяці тому +1

      The reason they're generous is cause of the lawsuit lmao

    • @ericcardinal9138
      @ericcardinal9138 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Kaihiwatari705 maybe, but i doubt that's the only reason. it's not their 1st. hoyo already have it's toe on multiple line. with venti, for exemple (among other chars). the chinese goverment aren't fans of femboy. ;-)

  • @s-zs7nn
    @s-zs7nn 2 місяці тому +4

    Something this vid did not mention was that were about to get a new hydro catalyst 5 star in 5.0 whos gonna do more dps than neuv. Hoyo probably also nerfed neuv so they could sell her. Thought they could wait for all of neuvs rerun and then sneak some nerfs and a 100 primos in, but they didnt expect a potential cn lawsuit.
    Devs listened? More like Devs got caught

  • @capitanspoiler7393
    @capitanspoiler7393 2 місяці тому +3

    the way they reacted makes A LOT of sense, they could be sued for fraud if they pull crap like that. China has a law against changing characters and weapons in gacha games after their release to protect people from predatory practices.
    Hoyo wanted to release a new character that would have powercrept Neuvilette, by also nerfing him they would guarantee that players would pay for the new one

  • @fadzli1234
    @fadzli1234 2 місяці тому +7

    Mihoyo : Yeah, keep nagging. You guys still spend on our products anyways, so yeah. Here's 100 primo as compensation.

  • @Чери-д3д
    @Чери-д3д 2 місяці тому +11

    10 pulls 👁️👄👁️ insane "Kuro could never"

    • @Averageguy1221
      @Averageguy1221 2 місяці тому +4

      Me waiting for the "30 pulls after ZZZ released" comment to spawn here 😂

    • @Emmanuelsevilla-b8r
      @Emmanuelsevilla-b8r 2 місяці тому +9

      Me ,already spend and got JINSHI. DA BEST!!!

    • @Khann_2102
      @Khann_2102 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Emmanuelsevilla-b8r Lesgo

    • @09gaming12
      @09gaming12 2 місяці тому

      For getting caught scamming

  • @LilyanTCA
    @LilyanTCA 2 місяці тому +4

    I haven’t played Genshin in many weeks. And, as a Chinese who lives in Canada, once I got the free 1600 primos today, I literally went “wtf- for real?” ‘Cause like I didn’t know wtf was happening in the Genshin community rn😅

  • @Phantom19-YT
    @Phantom19-YT 2 місяці тому +86

    They listened! 1600 PRIMOGEMS!?

    • @cool_waffle8492
      @cool_waffle8492 2 місяці тому +47

      they'll deduct them from 5.0 update rewards, not the first time this happened lol

    • @Doro-bashi
      @Doro-bashi 2 місяці тому +26

      They listened!... To the court

    • @Nomnomnom165
      @Nomnomnom165 2 місяці тому +25

      They listened to the lawsuit threats, not the feedback 😂

    • @Averageguy1221
      @Averageguy1221 2 місяці тому +13

      And All it took was some competition and a lawsuit threat and doxxing 😂

    • @yukiyana5214
      @yukiyana5214 2 місяці тому

      Damn

  • @alatusedits
    @alatusedits 2 місяці тому +70

    No way genshin gave us a free ten pull lmao💀.
    Wuwa finally got these devs out of their asses

    • @Real_Metagross
      @Real_Metagross 2 місяці тому +2

      Where did you pull wuwa mf, they aren't even related to this ☠️

    • @therealestsparkle
      @therealestsparkle 2 місяці тому +9

      ​@@Real_MetagrossBecause they gave us a free ten-pull

    • @Real_Metagross
      @Real_Metagross 2 місяці тому +11

      @@therealestsparkle where in the whole argument, wuwa enters in the chat, just because of 10 pulls? Mfs just didn't want to be put in court for scamming so they tried to play nice with 10 pulls while refixing neuvillete, so I don't know where you people are pulling this wuwa argument, like ya know wuwa isn't the only gacha game that awards good their players right?

    • @therealestsparkle
      @therealestsparkle 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Real_Metagross Because it's Genshin's direct competition, fuken duh.

    • @Real_Metagross
      @Real_Metagross 2 місяці тому +1

      @@therealestsparkle just because of that? Ya no that's not an actual argument to this context

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds 2 місяці тому +2

    I love how they will try and nerf a character after the fact but not ever buff older characters

  • @GummyDinosaursify
    @GummyDinosaursify 2 місяці тому +9

    Comparing the western "change the skin color" argument and the CN "revert one change in a character's kit" is wild, though. All hoyo has to do with Neuvillette is put a single line of code back in. With skin color changes, they have to redo artwork, re-render the full models and 5 star burst animations, cutscenes, edit static cutscenes, promotional material... Even if hoyo "listened to the western audience" this isn't an overnight change. So comparing the two is just asinine.

    • @Nurilius1
      @Nurilius1 2 місяці тому +8

      Actually it isnt a single line of code. I doubt a single code line would be enough plus complications most likely happened

    • @keneunaegbu851
      @keneunaegbu851 2 місяці тому +4

      I don't think it's that complex my guy...

    • @drekhunter
      @drekhunter 2 місяці тому +2

      They could change the names of some characters tho.

    • @AF_frfr
      @AF_frfr 2 місяці тому

      Changing a character’s skin tone isn’t that complex. All it is is the first two steps, change some pixels and make them darker and now everyone shuts up

  • @Vergil560
    @Vergil560 2 місяці тому +4

    Hoyoverse: You can't defeat me
    Global Players: Oh I know, but he can...
    CN players: 🗿
    We're gonna threat and report Hoyoverse to the Chinese Government 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

  • @plushyneko
    @plushyneko 2 місяці тому +1

    Excluding Zhongli's case, every playable character that got an adjustment to gameplay after release got severe backlash I guess.

  • @ArtiX_Play05
    @ArtiX_Play05 2 місяці тому +6

    Hoyoverse being Hoyoverse

  • @AkyraMMDandCovers
    @AkyraMMDandCovers 2 місяці тому +2

    Sayu got slower too like i noticed the moment they slowed her skill by 30% and made it travel less too

  • @Harmonial_sacrifice
    @Harmonial_sacrifice 2 місяці тому +3

    Cough me when I thought the 1600 primos was for Neuvillette..

  • @MauveButterfly
    @MauveButterfly 2 місяці тому +3

    I genuinely think that this was a bug/exploit. The problem is that Hoyoverse took way too long to address it and even sold the character a second time over half a year later once people were used to the way he played. At that point, I'd consider it to be a silly and fun way to get absurd power in an easy single player game, and I can see how people would buy the character specifically for the ability to spin to win. By not dealing with the issue immediately, Hoyoverse essentially tried to sell an overpowered character and then nerf it once the banner was over.

  • @sekaiishtal2508
    @sekaiishtal2508 2 місяці тому +4

    I don’t have our Hydro Dragon. The only time I got to play his character is trial events. And as I play console, I never noticed anything wrong with his character. I certainly couldn’t do this fast 360 spin like the video showed back then.
    Then again, free primos are free primos. Whatever, dood.

  • @baritone_vocalist
    @baritone_vocalist 2 місяці тому +1

    This proves once again that the CN community is the one with most authority which makes sense to be fair.

  • @nam6282
    @nam6282 2 місяці тому +7

    So this just confirms that CN players have 1000000x more authority over Hoyo decisions than the global players at this point. They could say they don’t like Diluc very much and Genshin would delete him from the game

    • @meawmere6618
      @meawmere6618 2 місяці тому +1

      I think its just simple cn is their base of operations and their main audience that and if the cn community decides to do a lawsuit they can cause they are jn the country

    • @aavaron
      @aavaron 2 місяці тому +3

      not really, the only power that cn community has is power of lawsuit.

    • @yurilowell4213
      @yurilowell4213 2 місяці тому +3

      @@aavaron This is it, they only moved because the lawsuit threat was at their door, and they would have been found guilty too.
      Sneaky bastards wanted to nerf our water dragon boy just so they could sell another character who could probably do the same thing that was being nerfed.

    • @minetfq739
      @minetfq739 2 місяці тому +1

      even if it isnt lawsuit, the CN community could go friking insane on other things

    • @SubtleVibess
      @SubtleVibess 2 місяці тому

      Naaaah cn community has been trying to get scaramouche deleted for a year, they even reported lyney for his outfit

  • @AspienWaifu
    @AspienWaifu 2 місяці тому +1

    CN community needs to get them to remove overworld running/gliding stamina, it’s been FOUR EFFING YEARS MY DUDES 😭😤

  • @nargacuga8870
    @nargacuga8870 2 місяці тому +8

    To be honest I don't think this is huge nerf i mean he still tooo op with or without him but i me happy because we got 1700 from this and lits pray for more future situations like this + i think that reason that they do something now un like the 3 wishes drama is this time that gos to the courts what is treated as frude in law ( sorry for my bad English)

  • @zaneassefa7711
    @zaneassefa7711 2 місяці тому +1

    I think hoyo responded because fraud is a serios concern to a company.
    Everything else can't be used to get the upperhand in the court.

  • @chrollohxh5268
    @chrollohxh5268 2 місяці тому +3

    Kuro: 30 pulls for no reason
    Hoyo: 10 pulls for Da Wei and co don't end up in jail

  • @frickmehlife5407
    @frickmehlife5407 2 місяці тому

    Got a Wuthering waves AND a ZZZ ad on this video helpp

  • @thewritevibe
    @thewritevibe 2 місяці тому +4

    Im just happy that Neuvilette is back to what it was before, since he's my only meta dps.

  • @LunVelierina
    @LunVelierina 2 місяці тому +9

    The fact that HOYOVERSE pulled a kuro games for like a minute beacasue they got scared of the chinese community is actually funny

    • @Kanethedragon
      @Kanethedragon 2 місяці тому +1

      I mean this isn’t the first time, probably won’t be the last either. Remember the HI3 controversy? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Overall wasn’t quite as much of an issue compared to this, but it still was a thing that CN complained about that Hoyo caved and deleted and they also compensated CN very graciously then while Global who the event was for didn’t get shit.

    • @Vortex_69
      @Vortex_69 2 місяці тому

      As a wuwu player all I can say is there is still alot of work needs to be done on rewards after the release till now we have got total of 105 free pulls

  • @TheOshinoMeme
    @TheOshinoMeme 2 місяці тому +2

    To me, the whole situation is ridiculous but the fact that they rolled back and gave players 1 ten pull is for me such a piece of S move...

  • @Weatheringplayz
    @Weatheringplayz 2 місяці тому +3

    The fact that all of this is avoidable if you just dont use Twitter or x whatever the heck you call it is crazy

  • @just_a_hampa
    @just_a_hampa 2 місяці тому +3

    Me who doesn’t care about Neuvi’s nerf because I’m on mobile-

  • @FloutchBW
    @FloutchBW 2 місяці тому +5

    Me who's been playing Neuvilette for months and had no idea he could even do that: 😶

  • @marjhuncantago9476
    @marjhuncantago9476 2 місяці тому

    List of Nerfed Heroes,
    Yelan, Amber, Qiqi, Lynette, Scara, Nahida, Ayaka.
    Yelan E speed, Amber Aim shot DMG decrease, Qiqi Base Atk% decrease, Scara Atk Spd Decrease, Nahida Skill delay Increase, Ayaka normal atk scale Decrease and other shady Crit Dmg Scaling, Lynette E speed.

  • @AnonEugeo-no8rj
    @AnonEugeo-no8rj 2 місяці тому +2

    Extremely suspicious when u consider a new flashy hydro dps is about to come in 5.0. And just the previous patch, there was siegewiene who was similar to neuvilette but couldn’t spin to win

  • @TheLupusBoreas
    @TheLupusBoreas 2 місяці тому +1

    Now that I understand how much they nerfed Neuvillette due to this video, including a new patch earlier really ticked me off. He's a Main of mine at C2, and is completely useless now that he has been nerfed so badly. I wonder if they'll remove these fixes if the CN community keeps lashing out since they did fix Zhongli that one time--.

  • @MoskusMoskiferus1611
    @MoskusMoskiferus1611 2 місяці тому +1

    This channel is the whole Ragebait

  • @bluebros1813
    @bluebros1813 2 місяці тому +1

    This is all gonna stop when capitano comes.

  • @wall6587
    @wall6587 2 місяці тому +1

    According to the judgement of the oratrice mecanique d'analyse cardinale, I declare that hoyoverse is guilty, and must compensate all travelers with 1600 primogens and revert my nerfs at once, or else, spend the rest of their days under the custody of the fortress of meropide.

  • @theherbst4851
    @theherbst4851 2 місяці тому +2

    Yeah those 10 wishes is the first and last time we are getting. We ain't getting that much on their next anniversary 😅

  • @yxieyuuki
    @yxieyuuki 2 місяці тому +2

    hoyoverse only loves its cn players, other than that well well well

  • @chicken7002
    @chicken7002 2 місяці тому +1

    I just got my account hacked a few days ago. If I'd recover my account and find out they trashed it, I'd quit this game for good. The hacker might have given me a favor.

  • @pente7520
    @pente7520 2 місяці тому +1

    Im fine with the skin color...

  • @McDonaldSeele.
    @McDonaldSeele. 2 місяці тому +4

    The power of CN community is so poweful even HOYOVERSE listen to them

  • @MoveLegacies
    @MoveLegacies 2 місяці тому +1

    Well all the more reason to leave a company that will only listen when shit gets real. It’s unprofessional…

  • @honeysucklejazper3777
    @honeysucklejazper3777 2 місяці тому

    IDK man, this whole stunt reeks not only of nerf application to a "bug" but also of "wOOPS have 10 pulls to shut up" due to not just neuvi but also natlan. even with the legal action i doubt they would've willingly given this much unless they wanted to keep getting clowned on

  • @GiraultAndrea
    @GiraultAndrea 2 місяці тому +6

    1600 PRIMOS???? Is this the real hoyoverse????

  • @Thatscrazyy4real
    @Thatscrazyy4real 2 місяці тому +1

    They should have just given us 480 primos😐

  • @blazeprince9105
    @blazeprince9105 2 місяці тому

    It's because of the report and customer fraud complaints in past they faced it and it was terrifying for them it was in Honkai impact 3rd and they don't want it on Genshin their milking game so that's why they did the shit asap to not lose the power over Genshin and their freedom to fuck around

  • @rahulsinghalwal1
    @rahulsinghalwal1 2 місяці тому +1

    How to make players pull for new characters : make them interesting, good, different persona ( not the same old cutsy pookie persona)
    Hoyoverse : Oh, Let's change our "permanent" endgame mode for players to invest more characters to clear imaginarium "circus" and "fix" old characters which got more pulls bcs of the "bug" and ignore the real "bugs" players been asking.

  • @MarcSy
    @MarcSy 2 місяці тому +3

    1.6k hush money hahahahha! Probably "listened" because of the new characters

  • @leon_9114
    @leon_9114 2 місяці тому +1

    In my opinion, they made this an issue to sweep the DEI issue with Natlan (btw I dont care about the DEI). They made this a big issue. By nerfing Neuvi and make everyone angry, then fix it after and issue a huge 1600 gems. So that people will thank HYV, and this made the DEI issue forgotten

  • @gong-hl7fw
    @gong-hl7fw 2 місяці тому +2

    I don't understand, most of us can't use the spinning tech anyways.

  • @Kingdragonkhs
    @Kingdragonkhs 2 місяці тому +1

    They where trying to get more sales for the new characters

  • @acidace9931
    @acidace9931 2 місяці тому +2

    never ending drama

  • @shadowlink20
    @shadowlink20 2 місяці тому +1

    Congrats on 15k bro! Well deserved milestone! 👏🏼👏🏼

  • @ahmadabdelwahhab3863
    @ahmadabdelwahhab3863 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the reason they had to listen is people reporting them to authority as fraud 😂😂😂 .... Pathetic

  • @Vergil560
    @Vergil560 2 місяці тому +1

    And so basically they tried to nerf Neuvillette so they can powercreep and make the natlan characters more stronger DPS than the previous and to increase their sales

  • @ghosteatime5011
    @ghosteatime5011 2 місяці тому +1

    I mean it looks like a glitch

  • @2ndLeChewayChannel
    @2ndLeChewayChannel 2 місяці тому +2

    Formula how to fix jenshit impacked
    1. Live in China for 4 years, so you become Permanent Resident there(so ur voice matters)
    2. Complain A LOT(as permanent resident of China)
    3. Expect global changes(rework of the whole game)
    4. Force a lot of people, who plays genshin do the 1,2,3 stesps
    5. Enjoy the changes!11 :DDDDD
    (im not responsible if someone goes wrong)
    that's a joke btw, don't do that, it's not worth it, this game cannot be saved as it's fanbase

  • @Jackson-ub1uv
    @Jackson-ub1uv 2 місяці тому +1

    At the very least, Mavuika shouldn't be changed due to her status as one of the Himeko's.

    • @rickynguyen5108
      @rickynguyen5108 2 місяці тому

      A pathetic expy of Himeko if (and when) Mihoyo and Genshin devs screw it up. Her having a different VA is telling.

    • @Jackson-ub1uv
      @Jackson-ub1uv 2 місяці тому

      @@rickynguyen5108 Oh shut up. Acheron has a different VA, yet people adore her.
      Having a different VA tells you _nothing_ besides "this Himeko has a different VA."
      "A pathetic expy." Natlan hasn't even been _released_ and you're already judging her character? Have we not learned from Furina that first impressions aren't always accurate?

    • @rickynguyen5108
      @rickynguyen5108 2 місяці тому

      ​@Jackson-ub1uv
      You saying all of this doesn't inspire any smidgen of trust in Genshin, considering how much the devs and Mihoyo screw up and that they don't care about players, those who aren't suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
      Also, I was talking about JP VA.
      If you want to continue on defending this greedy multi-billion dollar company, be my guest. Don't expect others to do the same. Also, Inazuma had a lot of hype around it at the time and it flopped HARD. That warrants suspicions, and Genshin Raiden is the GARBAGE of garbage for her pathetic and poor-ass Archon Quest in terms of writing at that time. Worst and weakest Mihoyo character expy EVER. Acheron is a FAR superior Mihoyo character expy from what I've seen so far.

  • @gxyuuOFFICAL
    @gxyuuOFFICAL 2 місяці тому

    I would just say that:
    Be happy What we have and dont complain-

  • @edan6521
    @edan6521 2 місяці тому

    Not sure but so somewhere. CN genshin make like 70% and global 25% remaining 5% collaborate. This was back 2023

  • @whoosh_.
    @whoosh_. 2 місяці тому

    It’s the same with hi3, and likely the other 2 games. In hi3, global will, maybe if we’re lucky, get 60 crystals, but on the other side, when cn gets the same thing, they give 2800 crystals

    • @HerrscherOfKugisaki
      @HerrscherOfKugisaki 2 місяці тому

      Remember the hofi kiana stretch pose incident?

    • @whoosh_.
      @whoosh_. 2 місяці тому

      @@HerrscherOfKugisaki we can’t have nice things

  • @kingdedetree2230
    @kingdedetree2230 2 місяці тому

    As someone who plays Genshin on PC with a controller, i wish the tuening speed was FASTER for controllers

  • @lastorderx20001
    @lastorderx20001 2 місяці тому

    1:24 you're just completely wrong here. Even without spin to win, he still has the best AoE coverage alongside Xiao and Nilou

  • @Gr0s3d
    @Gr0s3d 2 місяці тому +1

    Im sure if that would be Kuro, CN community was already sued them, thats the double moral of the people lmao

  • @yurilowell4213
    @yurilowell4213 2 місяці тому +1

    Character development guy says: President we have a new idea for a character.
    President: I'm listening.
    Character development guy: Its gonna be this guy/girl with with an awesome new aoe ability that can cause 10k damage per hit over 5 hits.
    President: That's nice.
    Character development guy: But there is a problem.
    President: And what is it?
    Character development guy: There is already a character players have been using to achieve something similar to an aoe, and this character can cause an average of 40k damage per hit over 6~7 hits, and can repeat this three to four times back to back.
    President: ... Don't worry, i know just how to address this, surely our moneytrees will understand.