I hear you on that. I was never expecting ride quality from a sporty subaru anyway. But my daily driver is a 21 sti, which seems to have far better ride quality than my previous car, a 2017 wrx. And definitely better ride quality than a 2016 sti that i had the chance to drive. That was a great car as well, but the ride was very harsh and bouncy even with no suspension modification. I wouldn't call it softer, but right away the suspension seemed better dampened in the newer sti.
I agree. my 2015 Sti was very different ride quality compared to my 2018 out of the box. thicker glass, bigger rims and tires, and some minor suspension tweaks from factory made a huge difference. I recently went with hks coilovers and the ride quality and performance improved even more drastically.
@@ianholmquist8492 Thanks man. I went with the hipermax s that came out recently, super happy with them. The only drawback as far I know that I didn’t realize is .. if and when they need to be rebuilt, they have to be sent back to hks in japan. Keep an eye out on JDMuscle, I snagged a deal off there for the set.
I fell in love with the wrx sti when it first came stateside in 2004. I was used to seeing mustangs , camaros, gtos and beefed out hondas and nissans duking it out on the street. Then along comes the subie, a bright blue car with gold wheels, a giant spoiler, and a boxer rumble that was simply majestic. Not to mention it was smoking everything in sight. Yes a lot has changed in the auto world with technological advancements. But the Subie community is larger than ever, and the aftermarket support for them is downright exceptional. And I agree, the imperfections are there in stock form which makes it a fantastic platform to modify and perfect with the right parts and tuner,. These are potent machines for the street/track in the right hands. Sadly many of them have been misused, wrecked and neglected over time. Which makes the late model versions even more desirable and less attainable. Sorry for the long comment, I'm just a diehard Subie guy too Lol
Hey Johnny, I appreciate the comment. I’ve driven various other AWD turbo cars, Golf R’s, Evo’s, and even some Audi’s, but despite some of those cars being faster, handling better, or overall better performing, whenever I get back into a subie it feels like home. There’s so much character in a WRX STI, its inexplainable! It’s kinda a thing that latches on when you drive one every day. The community is like no other and I’m proud to be a die-hard subie fan as well. Stay tuned!!
I'd say it started with the 2018 year with the facelift, flashing neon green big 6 piston brakes and changes to the differential onwards to 2021. The signs were all over the place. South Africa and Europe got a "final edition" 2018 WRX STI before effectively announcing the WRX STI will never be sold in those continents. We were all oblivious that it meant the WRX STI will be discontinued as a whole everywhere.
Ive had my 2020 STI for a few days. The more I learn about it the more I fall in love with it, and I've already been obsessed! Im really glad it has the improved engine from the STI S209. I dont plan on building mine, its going to be a daily driver for a very long time. But that gave me a little peace of mind lol
Hey Bro. I got a VB WRX last month (don't hate me and my plastic cladding lol). I feel the same as you, since its my one and only car, I don't want to throw power mods at it if I don't have a fat enough wallet to pay for a new engine. These cars can last forever in stock form with good maintenance. If I really wanted to go faster I wouldn't be buying a subaru tbh, I bought the WRX because they are too damn fun to drive! Congrats on your car!
I really loved my 2017 WRX. I purchased my low mileage 2020 STI last January 2022. A great video brother. The STI is a pure mechanical driving experience and a delight 😊. It's my daily driver. ✨️. Subies forever.
I was trying really hard to score a 2019 + STI but every one I found was between mid-to-upper $30s to low $50s. Either way, I managed to score a very nice 2017 STI within the mid-20s; bone stock, never modified. I love her.
More power! I’ve had a 17 wrx a 19,20, amd now a 21 Sti. I’ve gotten a new Sti every year and have always came out ahead as they hold there value pretty well. My only complaint is they are pretty slow cars but extremely fun to drive.
Had a Hawkeye for 6 years, now have a 2020 limited w/ lip spoiler. Definitely like the radioactive color brembos. So glad I got a discounted STI during Covid summer ‘20.
Nice video! Still madly in love with my 21 sti. Just one thing i wanted to point out about the video. It's a common misconception about the dccd control. It doesn't change the torque split front/rear whatsoever. What it does is increase or decrease how quickly the front or rear limited slip diff will engage when a wheel slips. Basically, it changes how the car feels at the limit of grip. Which is why it doesn't have a very noticeable effect if you change the dccd when just driving around town on dry roads.
I have a 2002 Bugeye wagon, 2004 STi and a 2019 STi. Had a 2007 Forester XT and a 2012 STi. So far I like the 19 the most. The 2004 is a close second. I bought that car because they are getting rare. It's Java Black Pearl. Which is rare by itself. I found one low mileage with no rust. It is pretty modify but I'm going to try to clean it up and make it OEM plus. I personally don't really have any issues with these cars. Depending on what symptoms you experience it's good to start doing supporting mods. A lot of UA-cam channels tell you right off the bat and you should get AOS. In my experiences I don't have to run a AOS as long as I'm running the right oil. I will say the earlier generation cars that I've had, have more issues with oil consumption. There is no way around that because these are turbo cars. Subaru or not you are going to consume oil in some way or another. I run Motul 5w40 in my 2019. I have been running Schaeffer's 5w40 and both of mine earlier generation cars. My 2004 has a radium AOS. That car needed it. I barely consume oil in any of my cars. I also do my oil changes every 3000 miles regardless of what the oil manufacturer says.
I bought my 19 sti just shy of a year ago and my first mod I got was a Cobb AP, fast forward one year later and now I’m sitting at 15k in car parts going for stage 5+ shooting for a reliable 450p and 500e 😅
@Seppmedia Keep working towards it!! I started out with a 2015 STI I got new, I paid it off and traded it in for the 2020 STI for all the same reasons you listed in the vid but as I had gotton older I started to drift towards something more mature and refined but i wanted something similar to the STI i.e unique exhaust note, sporty compact sedan, has awd, turbo, etc. So I looked at the TLX Type S, test drove it, didnt have that performance feeling i wanted plus it was way too big. Then i looked at the Genesis, very nice but lacked the sport sedan feeling i wanted that the STI had, was more luxery than anything. Next i looked at the AMG CLA 45, liked it a lot but they lose their value and i wanted something that would holds its value like the STI does. I was at BMW looking at a 2018 F80 M3, omg i fell in love with that car, unbelievable machine it was! But no awd and they wanted an additional $9k for an extended warranty and i was like yeah no, plus i did some research and founs out the crank hub on their engines fail pretty frequently. So across the street was Audi, i drove over there after I was at BMW and they had a 2020 Nardo Gray RS3 in the show room, caught my eye instantly. Took it for a test drive and i literally felt like i was in an STI but on steriods, i felt right at home with it and ended up buying it. The 5cyl is very responsive, the exhaust note is just as unique as the STI. The Audi Quattro awd system is just as good if not better than subarus awd system coupled with the STI differentials, it's literally what subaru should have done for the STI if they hadn't discontinued it.
rs3 is way faster and more comfortable for daily but sti is more fun.. by a lot... rs3 is almost too fast and comfy ur always wanting to break speed limit
In AUS, we got the Hyper Blue Edition, Kuro Edition and the Final Edition. The problem is that in 2021 when the Final Edition was released at 150 specs, they were all sold out from the dealer. Obviously all the insiders got there hands on them 1st then within a few days there were on the market for double the price.
@@carswithsepp I got a 2019 WRX back in 2019. I was planning to upgrade in 2021 but the prices shot through the roof. It was in the realm of the RS3, AMG 45s and Supra/ Nissan Z.
The 2019+ models are definitely the best factory STI overall. I've owned and driven all of them over the years. The GD's are probably the most fun overall but not the best overall vehicle. My 2021 stock STI pulled multiple car lengths on a Stage 1 OTS 2018 STI. Improved factory tune and RA engine is definitely putting down considerably more power than pre 2019.
Thanks for sharing your first hand experience with your car! I’m happy to hear someone actually can confirm a lot of my thoughts on the 2019+ STI. All the best with your build 👍
Man I got my 2019 sti from car max..an I didn’t kno how to drive manual lmaooo I was in the parking lot for 3 hours trying to learn lol….stalked out everytime I stoped lmaooo
The prices for 2021 wrx sti here in New Zealand are outrageous ... For a low km one you could buy a brand new Gr Corolla or maybe even Supra and as we are a small country supply and demand have driven the prices through the roof ... Many people were hoping for the 400hp possible 2 door sti like the concept car then Subaru pulled the rug on everyone and said yeah nah we just gonna make the wrx which is a bit meh
Glad I got my 2020 STi. I was looking for a GR86 to payoff and later use as a downpayment for a Supra, but I didn't want to pay crazy markup and found a STI. now I can't part with my STI because it will be a collector's car.
My 2019 STi is softer than 2015 STi, which make it ride a lot better and an amazing car!!
Nice! Daily driving is pretty good?
I hear you on that. I was never expecting ride quality from a sporty subaru anyway. But my daily driver is a 21 sti, which seems to have far better ride quality than my previous car, a 2017 wrx. And definitely better ride quality than a 2016 sti that i had the chance to drive. That was a great car as well, but the ride was very harsh and bouncy even with no suspension modification. I wouldn't call it softer, but right away the suspension seemed better dampened in the newer sti.
I agree. my 2015 Sti was very different ride quality compared to my 2018 out of the box. thicker glass, bigger rims and tires, and some minor suspension tweaks from factory made a huge difference. I recently went with hks coilovers and the ride quality and performance improved even more drastically.
@John Descul hks is the business. When my stock suspension starts to play out, i will probably do the same as you did
@@ianholmquist8492 Thanks man. I went with the hipermax s that came out recently, super happy with them. The only drawback as far I know that I didn’t realize is .. if and when they need to be rebuilt, they have to be sent back to hks in japan. Keep an eye out on JDMuscle, I snagged a deal off there for the set.
I fell in love with the wrx sti when it first came stateside in 2004. I was used to seeing mustangs , camaros, gtos and beefed out hondas and nissans duking it out on the street. Then along comes the subie, a bright blue car with gold wheels, a giant spoiler, and a boxer rumble that was simply majestic. Not to mention it was smoking everything in sight. Yes a lot has changed in the auto world with technological advancements. But the Subie community is larger than ever, and the aftermarket support for them is downright exceptional. And I agree, the imperfections are there in stock form which makes it a fantastic platform to modify and perfect with the right parts and tuner,. These are potent machines for the street/track in the right hands. Sadly many of them have been misused, wrecked and neglected over time. Which makes the late model versions even more desirable and less attainable. Sorry for the long comment, I'm just a diehard Subie guy too Lol
Hey Johnny, I appreciate the comment. I’ve driven various other AWD turbo cars, Golf R’s, Evo’s, and even some Audi’s, but despite some of those cars being faster, handling better, or overall better performing, whenever I get back into a subie it feels like home. There’s so much character in a WRX STI, its inexplainable! It’s kinda a thing that latches on when you drive one every day. The community is like no other and I’m proud to be a die-hard subie fan as well. Stay tuned!!
I have a 2" lifted 2012 STI, and damn the thing is so fun in deep snow. Shout out to the Subie Bros!
I'd say it started with the 2018 year with the facelift, flashing neon green big 6 piston brakes and changes to the differential onwards to 2021. The signs were all over the place.
South Africa and Europe got a "final edition" 2018 WRX STI before effectively announcing the WRX STI will never be sold in those continents. We were all oblivious that it meant the WRX STI will be discontinued as a whole everywhere.
Yeah exactly! I knew there were final editions but I didn’t know we would just have the end of it here in North America, that was the shocker for me!
Ive had my 2020 STI for a few days. The more I learn about it the more I fall in love with it, and I've already been obsessed! Im really glad it has the improved engine from the STI S209. I dont plan on building mine, its going to be a daily driver for a very long time. But that gave me a little peace of mind lol
Hey Bro. I got a VB WRX last month (don't hate me and my plastic cladding lol). I feel the same as you, since its my one and only car, I don't want to throw power mods at it if I don't have a fat enough wallet to pay for a new engine. These cars can last forever in stock form with good maintenance. If I really wanted to go faster I wouldn't be buying a subaru tbh, I bought the WRX because they are too damn fun to drive! Congrats on your car!
I really loved my 2017 WRX. I purchased my low mileage 2020 STI last January 2022. A great video brother. The STI is a pure mechanical driving experience and a delight 😊. It's my daily driver. ✨️. Subies forever.
They are great!
@@carswithsepp Yes they are.
Loved this!!!
Thank you !
I was trying really hard to score a 2019 + STI but every one I found was between mid-to-upper $30s to low $50s. Either way, I managed to score a very nice 2017 STI within the mid-20s; bone stock, never modified. I love her.
Nice man! Any plans with the subie in terms of mods?
@@carswithsepp just an exhaust for now. I'll build it in a few years.
I wish the EVO”S and the STI would have developed more .
Agreed!
More power! I’ve had a 17 wrx a 19,20, amd now a 21 Sti. I’ve gotten a new Sti every year and have always came out ahead as they hold there value pretty well. My only complaint is they are pretty slow cars but extremely fun to drive.
Had a Hawkeye for 6 years, now have a 2020 limited w/ lip spoiler. Definitely like the radioactive color brembos. So glad I got a discounted STI during Covid summer ‘20.
You got a discounted one?!? Tell me more!
Always been a huge fan of subaru and I'm definitely glad I pulled the plug on my 21 sti, I can definitely say it's here to stay
Congrats man! Keep it as long as you can, STI’s are gems now
Traded my wrx to 2020 sti. I also had to pull the plug as they no longer make sti
Nice video! Still madly in love with my 21 sti. Just one thing i wanted to point out about the video. It's a common misconception about the dccd control. It doesn't change the torque split front/rear whatsoever. What it does is increase or decrease how quickly the front or rear limited slip diff will engage when a wheel slips. Basically, it changes how the car feels at the limit of grip. Which is why it doesn't have a very noticeable effect if you change the dccd when just driving around town on dry roads.
I appreciate it! Good to know, interesting feature forsure!
Killing the STI was Subarus biggest mistake since killing the EJ22. :P
That's the truth!
STI ❤ my 2018 soon as they killed STI i was like noooo waaay but realozed one day mine will be a collector🤓 kewl video
I love your video’s man! I always watch em to learn something new before I go to bed 😂. Keep up the Great Work guy.
God bless y’all
Appreciate it
love your channel buddy. keep up the good work!
I appreciate you! Thanks man :)
@@carswithsepp i post a lot of subie content too! scope out my stuff!
@@markayala just did haha! Subbed :)
Glad I have my 2016 STI. I used to have a 02 S2000 but I ended up selling it. I regret it to this day. I'm going to keep my STI.
You have to get another S2k man! That’s a dream car of mine. I have a 2020 Sti and now I’m tying to save up to get an S2000
@Mecha_Ghidrah I will for sure buy another S2000.
I have a 2002 Bugeye wagon, 2004 STi and a 2019 STi. Had a 2007 Forester XT and a 2012 STi. So far I like the 19 the most. The 2004 is a close second. I bought that car because they are getting rare. It's Java Black Pearl. Which is rare by itself. I found one low mileage with no rust. It is pretty modify but I'm going to try to clean it up and make it OEM plus. I personally don't really have any issues with these cars. Depending on what symptoms you experience it's good to start doing supporting mods. A lot of UA-cam channels tell you right off the bat and you should get AOS. In my experiences I don't have to run a AOS as long as I'm running the right oil. I will say the earlier generation cars that I've had, have more issues with oil consumption. There is no way around that because these are turbo cars. Subaru or not you are going to consume oil in some way or another. I run Motul 5w40 in my 2019. I have been running Schaeffer's 5w40 and both of mine earlier generation cars. My 2004 has a radium AOS. That car needed it. I barely consume oil in any of my cars. I also do my oil changes every 3000 miles regardless of what the oil manufacturer says.
I appreciate the comment!
I bought my 19 sti just shy of a year ago and my first mod I got was a Cobb AP, fast forward one year later and now I’m sitting at 15k in car parts going for stage 5+ shooting for a reliable 450p and 500e 😅
Great Video! I have a 2020 WRB STI and find excuses to go drive it everyday.
I felt like a teenage boy driving my 2020 STI, I ended up trading it in for an RS3. Couldn't be happier. It's literally an STI for adults.
RS3 is definitely a goal for me (maybe more a dream haha). How is the 5 cylinder?? I heard it’s a beast to drive
@Seppmedia Keep working towards it!!
I started out with a 2015 STI I got new, I paid it off and traded it in for the 2020 STI for all the same reasons you listed in the vid but as I had gotton older I started to drift towards something more mature and refined but i wanted something similar to the STI i.e unique exhaust note, sporty compact sedan, has awd, turbo, etc.
So I looked at the TLX Type S, test drove it, didnt have that performance feeling i wanted plus it was way too big. Then i looked at the Genesis, very nice but lacked the sport sedan feeling i wanted that the STI had, was more luxery than anything. Next i looked at the AMG CLA 45, liked it a lot but they lose their value and i wanted something that would holds its value like the STI does.
I was at BMW looking at a 2018 F80 M3, omg i fell in love with that car, unbelievable machine it was! But no awd and they wanted an additional $9k for an extended warranty and i was like yeah no, plus i did some research and founs out the crank hub on their engines fail pretty frequently.
So across the street was Audi, i drove over there after I was at BMW and they had a 2020 Nardo Gray RS3 in the show room, caught my eye instantly.
Took it for a test drive and i literally felt like i was in an STI but on steriods, i felt right at home with it and ended up buying it.
The 5cyl is very responsive, the exhaust note is just as unique as the STI. The Audi Quattro awd system is just as good if not better than subarus awd system coupled with the STI differentials, it's literally what subaru should have done for the STI if they hadn't discontinued it.
rs3 is way faster and more comfortable for daily but sti is more fun.. by a lot... rs3 is almost too fast and comfy ur always wanting to break speed limit
@@fadmap9676 as for the F80, the crankhub isn’t an issue if you’re keeping it stock. It’s only when you wanna make power that you should look into it
I traded my wrx last week for 2020 STI, and I'm glad I did it. It will definitely be a collector’s car
She's a keeper forsure👍 congrats on the new car
In AUS, we got the Hyper Blue Edition, Kuro Edition and the Final Edition. The problem is that in 2021 when the Final Edition was released at 150 specs, they were all sold out from the dealer. Obviously all the insiders got there hands on them 1st then within a few days there were on the market for double the price.
Were you able to get your hands on a STI regular edition??
@@carswithsepp I got a 2019 WRX back in 2019. I was planning to upgrade in 2021 but the prices shot through the roof. It was in the realm of the RS3, AMG 45s and Supra/ Nissan Z.
@@carswithseppit's depressing how expensive they have become here in New Zealand
The 2019+ models are definitely the best factory STI overall. I've owned and driven all of them over the years. The GD's are probably the most fun overall but not the best overall vehicle.
My 2021 stock STI pulled multiple car lengths on a Stage 1 OTS 2018 STI. Improved factory tune and RA engine is definitely putting down considerably more power than pre 2019.
Thanks for sharing your first hand experience with your car! I’m happy to hear someone actually can confirm a lot of my thoughts on the 2019+ STI. All the best with your build 👍
@@carswithsepp Thanks!
I love my 2019 sti!
Definitely getting a 2020 or 2021 sti soon
Nice!!
Great video!
I appreciate the comment sir
Man I got my 2019 sti from car max..an I didn’t kno how to drive manual lmaooo I was in the parking lot for 3 hours trying to learn lol….stalked out everytime I stoped lmaooo
LOL that must have been a stressful experience. Glad you made it through tho haha!
Inform Us the developments so far of what Toyota Team is doing to bring back the Subaru team to WRC
I have a pristine, bone stock 19 STI with 36K miles. Selling it for a dollar a mile.
gold over neon !
big wing all the way
Agreed!
100% agree with you Henrique!!!
What package comes with the bigger biggerrrrr wing ?
The prices for 2021 wrx sti here in New Zealand are outrageous ... For a low km one you could buy a brand new Gr Corolla or maybe even Supra and as we are a small country supply and demand have driven the prices through the roof ... Many people were hoping for the 400hp possible 2 door sti like the concept car then Subaru pulled the rug on everyone and said yeah nah we just gonna make the wrx which is a bit meh
Glad I got my 2020 STi. I was looking for a GR86 to payoff and later use as a downpayment for a Supra, but I didn't want to pay crazy markup and found a STI. now I can't part with my STI because it will be a collector's car.
I totally agree! Keep the STI, it will be worth alot more than it already is !
@@carswithsepp Thank you for making this video
4:10. LMAO.
Yes simply yes. Had a 17 STI and my 21sti is a way better car. Not as modded but as a car better . Toyota money does help.
The new WRX is an Sti in sheep's clothing.
Na, i test drove a 22. It has the same old crappy brakes, numb steering, sloppy transmission, too soft suspension, wrong powerband, and ugly styling.
Big wang gang 🙌
Oh you know we gotta be big wang gang gang!
Lame politics pushing Japanese car companies to stop making there greatest line ups. Next STi will be fully electrified and 💔’ing
Dude could you add more adds to this video??
Can’t sell what looks like crap. Will wait until the fix the ugly I’ll stick with the real Subaru wrx , sti 2019-21