'Pretendian' Caught After Decades of False Indigenous Ancestry Claims | Buffy Sainte-Marie Analysis

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  • @vichikes
    @vichikes 6 місяців тому +381

    There are hundreds of great First Nations musicians in Canada... she stood in the front of the line and stole their awards... there's no other way to spin this story

    • @PurpleIrishSweater
      @PurpleIrishSweater 5 місяців тому +10

      @@steveatlas3492Canada uses the term “First Nation People” to encompass the nations of people indigenous to Canada prior to English/French arrival.
      Native American Nations are recognized by both Canada and the United States.
      Americans use the word “tribe” instead of Nation. There are those that say this is a carryover from centuries of treating Native Americans as if they are less than civilized. A refusal to acknowledge that Native Americans had formed Nations long before Europe was here.
      There are those that say it is a simple vernacular “tomāto/tomahto”difference between the U.S. and Canada.

    • @paulinegauthier1867
      @paulinegauthier1867 5 місяців тому +7

      Or maybe she's just a better musician/songwriter/performer than the rest?? Again claims of 'stolen' this and 'stolen' that...

    • @marciloni12
      @marciloni12 5 місяців тому +2

      The very people and family she was trying to protect (heavy sarcasm).

    • @skepticscircle1497
      @skepticscircle1497 5 місяців тому

      @@steveatlas3492True good sir.

    • @stephenletts4942
      @stephenletts4942 5 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@steveatlas3492no concept of Nationhood? The Haida Nation and many 1st Nations have a complete understanding of who they are. There was never a war in North America, we had the civil War, the war of 1812. And the fighting between two global Corporations, NWTC and Hudson Bay- which led to HBC purchase. Most of the land in North America was bought and paid for.
      Most 1st Nations peoples were killed by disease, the British on the Pacific Rim were very late to placing the flag, it was the American government who created the borders that make up British Canada.
      I see so much hate over this, hate by white people- the racism seeps below. It is non Natives that are Screaming the loudest, why is that?

  • @JMac-fj1rg
    @JMac-fj1rg 6 місяців тому +85

    Back in 1936, a Toronto Star reporter named Gordon Sinclair called up the editor of the North Bay Nugget . He told the editor that he wanted to do an in depth story on Grey Owl, a native naturalist and widely published author. There was a long pause on the other end of the telephone line, then the editor said , "You know he is a fraud , don't you !?"
    My point ?
    While the general public wouldn't necessarily know that Buffy Saint-Marie was a pretendian, a whole lot of people, particularly in the Indigenous community knew very well, but chose to say nothing.

    • @scarborosasquatchstation1403
      @scarborosasquatchstation1403 5 місяців тому +6

      Grey Owl...Recall he was part of the history curriculum taught in collegiate classes across Ontario in the 70's and 80's...

    • @peterpiper482
      @peterpiper482 5 місяців тому +7

      Grey Owl actually wrote some great tales.Don't know if he made out like Buffy,money wise. Worst thing was he was an English immigrant

    • @dallassegno
      @dallassegno 4 місяці тому

      So what? Identity is nothing. Means nothing

    • @desertari
      @desertari 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, what IS your point?

    • @JMac-fj1rg
      @JMac-fj1rg 4 місяці тому +3

      @@desertari While the general public wouldn't necessarily know that Buffy Saint-Marie was a pretendian, a whole lot of people, particularly in the Indigenous community knew very well, but chose to say nothing.

  • @tanyasand7042
    @tanyasand7042 6 місяців тому +235

    I’m a 60s scoop survivor and always thought she was too. She skipped all the trauma and claimed that she went thru whey we did as survivors. She’s delusional and a narcissist.

    • @katiejai9848
      @katiejai9848 6 місяців тому +18

      I am sorry for what you have gone through and it is so wrong for her to get a "free" ride based on the trauma of others.

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 6 місяців тому +19

      I am sorry for what you wnt through, and you are right- at one point she even claimed to be a scoop child. She has no shame whatsoever. She was raised by an Italian family near Boston and went to regular public schools. How dare she.

    • @sandralnwebster3204
      @sandralnwebster3204 5 місяців тому +2

      I am so sorry that the person you admired and
      looked up to proved to be a fraud! I am so im-
      pressed with all the indigenous artists that are
      on the music scene today! You should support
      and celebrate them❤. Peace be with you!

    • @JDoe-gf5oz
      @JDoe-gf5oz 5 місяців тому +4

      People really abusing that survivor label these days.

    • @liftedgifted6010
      @liftedgifted6010 5 місяців тому +7

      Pretty hard to scoop a 21 year old lol she was born in like 1940

  • @lzal9204
    @lzal9204 6 місяців тому +241

    I just finished watching the Fifth Estate documentary on her and wow! I think the fact that she sunk so low as to accuse her brother of being a child molester in order to silence the family from exposing her is probably the lowest of low. She is clearly NOT in any way shape or form indigenous and her story has changed so much through the years. She should be ashamed of herself. Accepting awards as an indigenous person. She has some mental issues

    • @rosekeyes3189
      @rosekeyes3189 5 місяців тому +10

      Maybe her brother was a child molester. It took me until I was 39 years old to openly talk about my brother being a molester when I was younger. It was incredibly painful to talk about. Many people bury it way down.

    • @DeeAnderson-oj2hr
      @DeeAnderson-oj2hr 5 місяців тому +14

      I saw that show and I agree. She clearly is not mentally okay. I don't believe her accusations about her brother. How can anyone believe someone who has been living the lies of fakery?

    • @evangeline77x
      @evangeline77x 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rosekeyes3189Based on the available evidence I strongly doubt that her brother ever abused her in anyway, or any child for that matter.
      The accusation against him was only made privately after her brother was contacted by PBS to ask about her heritage, which he did not conceal. At which point he also made efforts to inform a radio station about her false identity. The letter he wrote to the radio station made his motive clear; he was disappointed in his sister taking opportunities from actual indigenous women and using false pretenses to position herself as a spokesperson for indigenous social issues to further her own career. The letter bore no hints of malice or any indication of a personal grudge against Buffy. He was genuinely concerned that she was exploiting indigenous culture and just wanted the truth to be made known.
      Buffy's lawyers immediately silenced him in a threatening form letter with a second hand written letter from Buffy that explicitly stated if he did not stop talking about her that she would publicly identify him as a child molester and ruin his life. The next time she spoke up about being abused by her brother was after his death when he nor his family could refute her claim or sue her for defamation. And given all of the many countless things Buffy has lied about consistently for 60+ years the most likely scenario in this case is that she also lied about being abused by her brother. The accusation was clearly intended to threaten him into silence and it worked, now that she's been caught she is making more and more outlandish claims about her entire family to justify her lies. There's just no way to take anything she says seriously anymore, it's all motivated by greed and narcissism.

    • @primesspct2
      @primesspct2 5 місяців тому +13

      @@rosekeyes3189 But she just seemingly acknowledges it when her brother was writing newspapers?? He had a conscience, he thought it would take opportunities from those peoples. And here we are. You cannot take the word of a liar!

    • @jeffjones3040
      @jeffjones3040 5 місяців тому +7

      How do we know what did or did not happen in their family? We don't.

  • @samspade1841
    @samspade1841 6 місяців тому +187

    The obsession over native ancestry is absurd. When will people get over the romanticism and charade of all things native. They are people like any other and should not be deified or vilified.

    • @spmoran4703
      @spmoran4703 6 місяців тому

      As a Irish Celt who has to put up with people thinking we are pagan and believe in fairies and such things . So we are special to many and can do pagan magic . Who is supposed to hate the English . They are just people . I can understand were you are coming from . There is nothing special about Native North Americans. There is nothing special about any people except that they are people .

    • @timhazeltine3256
      @timhazeltine3256 6 місяців тому +5

      What's the real issue? Perhaps because it takes a little bit of the spotlight off of Caucasians?

    • @birdn4t0r7
      @birdn4t0r7 6 місяців тому +7

      @@timhazeltine3256 cuz people are pretending to be native? lol found buffy

    • @Ineedallthemoneywade
      @Ineedallthemoneywade 6 місяців тому +11

      It's the power of being a victim, look at the victim Olympics going on in the US one big fight over whose the biggest victim because whosever at the top of the pyramid gets the most power.

    • @censusgary
      @censusgary 6 місяців тому +6

      Over the years, I’ve spent a lot of time with people of a lot of different cultures, and I’ve come to the same conclusion as you: People are just people, irrespective of their ancestry or nationality or tribe. Those kind of identities don’t make a person better or worse than anybody else. I have to judge each person on his or her own merits, not by what I think about the group the person purportedly belongs to.

  • @user-ru3ql6ji4p
    @user-ru3ql6ji4p 6 місяців тому +437

    She's not the first person to lie about their race, she's not going to be the last. There are advantages, and she took the opportunity to profit.

    • @spbname8121
      @spbname8121 6 місяців тому

      In case you have not noticed she is in show-business! It's not real life. Only gullible fools belive anything else.

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 6 місяців тому +35

      Exactly. She needs to refund her Gov't payments.

    • @shilowaters6082
      @shilowaters6082 6 місяців тому +53

      The Gov't needs to stop giving payments to Indigenous people, there's no reason they deserve it over other people just because their ancestors were born in a shitty time

    • @susanjacobs6461
      @susanjacobs6461 6 місяців тому

      ​@@shilowaters6082Wrong. The colonizers raped and murdered nearly all of the Native population here! More than a " bad time". He double hockey sticks

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 6 місяців тому +17

      @@shilowaters6082 Agreed

  • @churchofpos2279
    @churchofpos2279 6 місяців тому +35

    If I remember correctly, Cher also used to claim to be Native American, until she got called out on it. Then admitted she was Armenian.

    • @JH-td4mn
      @JH-td4mn 5 місяців тому +11

      Yeah she did an album called Half Breed 🙄

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому +6

      Ooof, I can't stand Cher. But that's interesting that she's Armenian. I hadn't realized that. I've always though that Kim Kardashian - another person I can't stand - looks like Cher, kinda, and isn't she Aremenia or something similar to that?

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 3 місяці тому +8

      Some folks see everyone as either an Oppressor or Oppressed group and want to change teams to be with the "victimized". That way nobody can criticise them without being called a racist, colonialist, or whatever.

    • @zackzittel7683
      @zackzittel7683 3 місяці тому +2

      @@johng4093 so true.

    • @kaydenpat
      @kaydenpat 3 місяці тому +1

      Had no idea Cher wasn’t half Indigenous. Wow. Learned something new today. To my eyes, she certainly looked like a Native American.

  • @denisecorzette1676
    @denisecorzette1676 6 місяців тому +98

    I have admired her my whole life. I'm 67 years old and I feel so betrayed by this. I thought so highly of her. Another idol turns brass. Shame on her.

    • @scottgodfrey7118
      @scottgodfrey7118 6 місяців тому +2

      YOU ADMIRED HER?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Why? I like Wagner but I'm not going to invite him to coffee. Musicians are just people who make music. Many species do that besides humans. Whales do that, cicadas, several species of birds, a few other insect species, lawyers . . . I never admire musicians. I can enjoy their work but I don't consider them admirable. She was a singer, not a saint.

    • @denisecorzette1676
      @denisecorzette1676 6 місяців тому +10

      @@scottgodfrey7118
      That's your choice, at the time it had more to do with her activism than her music. You are a strange person to attack someone you don't know.

    • @foggyozarkg7396
      @foggyozarkg7396 6 місяців тому +5

      i have admired her my whole life KNOWING she wasnt really "native" but NATIVE in her heart and soul.. she does nothing but good for those looking for GOOD anyway, plenty there to see. im SICK of RACES being RACIST. i say WHO CARES she's a worthy HUMANITARIAN

    • @lizlee6290
      @lizlee6290 6 місяців тому +3

      @@scottgodfrey7118 Many of your comments on this thread come across as arrogant and condescending. (One example being the use of all caps and excessive exclamation marks in your comment about musicians.) They are your OPINION. Others may have a different opinion. It is possible to express an opinion without being arrogant and condescending.

    • @bbjagaa
      @bbjagaa 6 місяців тому

      Same here, I did with Elizabeth Warren and now heartbroken

  • @QueenOfTheNorth65
    @QueenOfTheNorth65 6 місяців тому +200

    This is so sad. Sesame Street came on the air when I was 4 years old, and I grew up watching Buffy on that show. I learned so much about Native Americans from her appearances there. I just don’t understand how people can go their entire lives perpetrating a fraud on people.

    • @ea42455
      @ea42455 6 місяців тому +14

      Just goes to show that most anyone can successfully teach about other cultures if they possess the knowledge and appreciation of the subject.

    • @julietfischer5056
      @julietfischer5056 6 місяців тому +26

      @@ea42455- Not. the. point.
      She didn't need to be Indian to do that. Claiming to be Indian was something she did to feel and be special, and it means that the identity of every single BIPOC will be questioned.

    • @noellarash367
      @noellarash367 6 місяців тому +4

      If this is false… she fooled everyone… didn’t she? “ I am baffled”

    • @stevenweint7893
      @stevenweint7893 6 місяців тому +1

      You make her sound as bad as Trump.

    • @PinkyPuff69
      @PinkyPuff69 6 місяців тому +3

      Me too. But nothing can take away the joy and awe we felt watching her on Sesame Street way back then.

  • @mushkego
    @mushkego 6 місяців тому +145

    When you build your house of cards based on lies it will crumble. I, too looked up to her as a Cree performer and that she was, a lying performer! She has robbed our people of honours that she lied about. The saddest thing about this is she has convinced and lied to herself she is one of us. Today I agree with you Doc.

    • @saphire9823
      @saphire9823 6 місяців тому +5

      It's so disheartening

    • @Orangecat1996
      @Orangecat1996 6 місяців тому +8

      I'm not indigenous but it was for me an honour to live in a James Bay community for three years and meet and work amongst the folks whose ancestry dates back 10000 years in that region. This deception is painful to think about in this time of truth and reconciliation when our First Nations are seeking support and reparations for all the damage that they have suffered. It must be especially difficult for the people of the Piapot Nation who have welcomed Buffy into their hearts and families. How can this be made right?

    • @elkalabaw7665
      @elkalabaw7665 6 місяців тому +2

      i only knew her as a singer when i was a kid in the 60s and really liked her songs "take my hand for awhile" and "until it's time for you to go." it was only in the 70s when i learned that she was an "indian" after i watched "soldier blue" which featured her song of the same title.

    • @arxsyn
      @arxsyn 6 місяців тому

      @@Orangecat1996 she can relieve us from this pain by taking responsibility/accountability for her hurtful actions. She spoke of truth/reconciliation, but she's a hypocrite, plus it's a way to dodge any admission to wrong doing. The more she deflects blame, obfuscate truth the more pain she inflicts. She's denying everyone relief. Only she has the medicine. I know, it's hard to swallow when the same poison is also medicine... It also pains me this sickness is so widespread

    • @alexhidell8022
      @alexhidell8022 6 місяців тому +1

      How many people died in this tragedy?

  • @davidbennett9691
    @davidbennett9691 6 місяців тому +159

    I worked down the hall from her when she was doing the music for "Where the Spirit Lives," an excellent indigenous Canadian film. She was a nightmare prima donna to be around but no one dared to call her on her bad behavior. She was claiming at that time to be a victim of generational abuse in the infamous residential school system. Stolen victimhood.

    • @hoppes9658
      @hoppes9658 5 місяців тому +10

      Let me guess. Another Pocahontas?

    • @stevepark2643
      @stevepark2643 5 місяців тому

      @@hoppes9658 ... Fauxahontas

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому +10

      Why is everyone so scared to call prima donnas on their terrible behavior? I honestly don't get it. And it's not just the example you gave, this seems to happen all the time, it is so common.
      And it causes so much harm. One of the causes closest to me is sexual assult, I read so so so often about how everyone around some famous rapist knew about it but kept hush-hush because they were afraid to call them on it.
      Like...I don't mean this at all in a rude way, I'm genuinly curious: why on earth are people so afraid to call others on their BS?

    • @davidbennett9691
      @davidbennett9691 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Julia-nl3gq I wish I had an answer for that question. Maybe it has to do with the way we fetishize the rich and famous. Maybe it's because we realize how quickly and viciously they can pursue retribution for a perceived slight or a critical word. And maybe it's just easier to let it go, stay out of their way and move on.

    • @JDoe-gf5oz
      @JDoe-gf5oz 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Julia-nl3gq People don't want to lose their jobs.

  • @tsdobbi
    @tsdobbi 5 місяців тому +23

    I saw her response to the allegations.
    Once I saw this line, I stopped reading.
    "Now it is time for me to shine a light on the truth, my truth."
    Once I hear someone utter the words "my truth" I know what ever they regurgitate after is a lie.

    • @mothball5425
      @mothball5425 5 місяців тому +1

      Or just gibberish 😂

    • @dallassegno
      @dallassegno 4 місяці тому

      Still worth it

    • @maxalberts2003
      @maxalberts2003 3 місяці тому

      One would assume that she had been "shining a light" on "her truth" from the beginning of her career. What's the REAL story?

    • @zxyatiywariii8
      @zxyatiywariii8 20 днів тому

      Yeah, "my truth" has become a perniciously popular claim since about 2012.
      Truth doesn't need a possessive qualifier like "my", "your", "his", "her", etc.

  • @Lala-lp1uy
    @Lala-lp1uy 6 місяців тому +1103

    The fact she is used native ancestry for her own gain and a sexual abuse accusation to silence her family is appalling

    • @kyleklukas4808
      @kyleklukas4808 6 місяців тому +7

      I'll say ...

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 6 місяців тому +19

      Her best recording, ironically was her most Native of all: “It’s my way.” //I think it’s a mistake for the mob to be trying to smear her without acknowledging her work. It was a stunningly raw and original work. Yet entirely created in a delusional identity/fantasy.Buffy Saint-Marie is truly proof that madness can transcend ethics itself. Her music was REAL, just as all art (including music) is a fiction. Buffy Sainte Marie may not “deserve” to be recognized as one if the all-time great female songwriters. But she absolutely is. And her music will live on.

    • @rosewoodsteel6656
      @rosewoodsteel6656 6 місяців тому

      Buffy deserves to be recognized as an absolute piece of $hit. Oh yeah, she can also sing folk songs. @@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole

    • @summerland5050
      @summerland5050 6 місяців тому +23

      This is perhaps the worse injustice of all. Hopefully, she will be called out for this in a a greater way and forced to apologize for ths wrong she did to this man-her biological brother-- and their family. Very shameful to resort to such a tactic, and calls any good work she did into question.

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 6 місяців тому

      The strange thing is that here beautiful music may wind up being passed on thru the very shame of her actions and lies. Her success will forever be her curse! @@summerland5050

  • @DalitisHebrewnotHindu
    @DalitisHebrewnotHindu 6 місяців тому +75

    Disappointed at this woman
    She destroyed her own brothers legacy and life for her selfish ways 😢

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 6 місяців тому +6

      False accusations of CSA are never acceptable, and they make it more difficult for actual victims to be believed and to come forward. She is the girl who cried wolf so she could appear on TV with Oscar the Grouch. I bet ol’ Oscar’s gonna be more grouchy when he learns the truth.

    • @aparnarajesh
      @aparnarajesh 6 місяців тому +2

      she betrayed indigenous community by claim she is one of them and it was sad for indigenous Canadians who see Buffy as their idol for music and her family who care her, were victims of her selfish ways

    • @cleopatra1633
      @cleopatra1633 23 дні тому

      @@Attmay All SA allegations should come with proof. There is too much dishonesty.

  • @LeisaRich
    @LeisaRich 3 місяці тому +14

    I worked for Buffy and was erroneously fired by her for something I did not do, and she did not give me the time to discuss her wrong accusation. She was NOT a nice person. She was quite mean. To me, this came as no surprise. She struck me as a narcissist, and I see that karma has come to bite her, like she bit me.

  • @Chuck-se5hh
    @Chuck-se5hh 5 місяців тому +26

    I was blown away by a concert of hers at my highschool in Yorkton, Saskatchewan in 1995, she stunned and floored the entire audience and brought it to its feet by dramatically opening with 'Starwalker', and I had the privilege of speaking to her personally, and I bought her CD at the concert. I was totally taken in. I will never listen to her music again.

    • @agnesrobertson9099
      @agnesrobertson9099 2 місяці тому +1

      I thought it was terrible that she threatened her brother with sexual abuse allegations .

    • @notconsenting6633
      @notconsenting6633 2 місяці тому +1

      You actually liked that garbage? I always thought her music sucked even when I thought she was native😊

  • @Nikabrown2020
    @Nikabrown2020 6 місяців тому +1215

    As a Canadian I have to say that I’m disappointed and angry. Buffy built her entire career on being Indian, she has reaped awards and respect as well as money fraudulently. I’m 72 and grew up with her music and feel disillusioned that she would fabricate her life for the sake of her career.

    • @GdF420
      @GdF420 6 місяців тому +105

      Well said -
      It's a sad story, a life of deceit. How can you live your life knowing you're a fraud ?

    • @Bodyknowledge77
      @Bodyknowledge77 6 місяців тому +44

      @@GdF420 It's important(but not easy) to not put public people on pedestals. Humans often exist to bewilder. What she did is/was unsavory but compared to what some other public people have pulled and will pull..

    • @mortygoldmacher
      @mortygoldmacher 6 місяців тому

      She is a fake Canadian as well.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 6 місяців тому +77

      The fact that there are identity based awards, giving out rewards and benefits based upon identity, vice accomplishment based awards leads to this kind of crime. It literally has to lead to this kind of crime. Rewarding someone for their immutable identity should seem like a really stupid idea in 2023, yet it is gaining steam in the west.

    • @nick_czem_nick656
      @nick_czem_nick656 6 місяців тому +37

      @@GdF420 Politicians do that all the time. And guess what, we know it and we still vote...

  • @landofthelivingskies3318
    @landofthelivingskies3318 6 місяців тому +1230

    Im a Cree from Saskatchewan Canada. When i found out i was absolutely heartbroken. There isnt a cree singer from Saskatchewan to ever reach international heights and recognition like Bluffy Ain't Cree. At first I was ready to forgive her and say so what. Then i heard and seen how she was willing to ruin her REAL family by fake sexual abuse accusations, and would leave them destitute if they fought it. How she turned her back on her loving family for fame and money is downright selfish. She's an imposter, with not a drop of cree blood in her. And she knew this. I dont give a dam what awareness she brought to our plight, she always did it for a fee. She should be stripped of all her accolades and should never set foot in cree country again. She will not be welcomed from me and my family thats for sure.
    BLUFFY AINT CREE.

    • @MichaelKurse
      @MichaelKurse 6 місяців тому +113

      We, Americans, apologize for her fraud. We don't claim her, either.😡😡😡

    • @batsandbatsandbats
      @batsandbatsandbats 6 місяців тому +88

      I was ready to say that at first as well, I didn't even want to watch the Fifth Estate, but once her real relatives shared their side it was irrefutable. Relating her upbringing to the "big scoop" was deplorable especially since so many indigenous children are still separated from their families and birth alerts only ended recently.
      And you're correct, she did it for a fee that was higher than most at some points.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 6 місяців тому

      but you allow the government to say a person with a penis is a woman. if that's so what the difference here? Aren't we supposed to be what we feel we are? Isn't it supposed to be hate in canada now to question a person's identity? Why is it for gender? why are people accepting dishonesty and claiming they are upset when they see it?
      I think people aren't honest about anything in canada anymore. We have a schizophrenic outlook and if we complain we are guilty of being a trucker or a person that likes freedom.
      In Canada we say, freedumb instead of freedom.
      We
      're allowed to call this out as dishonest because they allow us?

    • @rejeandurette3471
      @rejeandurette3471 6 місяців тому +58

      I appreciate your heartfelt comment here. I grew up around many Cree people in Saskatchewan. I share your emotions and sadness as well.

    • @ItsAllOptics
      @ItsAllOptics 6 місяців тому

      @@rejeandurette3471 If I was Indigenous, and found out someone famous lied about being so too, I'd be angry. In essence she USED the Indigenous people and your real life struggle historically, even to this day to create a false narrative that only benefitted herself. In terms of her claiming to have been of the Piapot family. I wonder what thoughts went through her head knowing factually she didn't have an ounce of blood in her. She USED the Indigenous people.

  • @gerryyaum
    @gerryyaum 6 місяців тому +38

    In the Canadian art scene there is an advantage to mark yourself as indigenous. Whenever you apply for an art grant, an exhibition, an opportunity to be an artist, that question is asked. If you check that box you move up the queue. She lied to promote her career, become famous and make money. What she did was reprehensible on many levels. She took away from those who better deserved her spot.

    • @andersonomo597
      @andersonomo597 6 місяців тому +6

      Exactly the same here in Australia if you claim Aboriginal heritage. There are SO many benefits and greased wheels and floods of money - and there are SO many 'Aboriginals" who look just like everyone else, have the same opportunities as everyone else but who claim 'disadvantage' due to being 'Aboriginal' and as a result get an advantage. I think a lot of Aussies are starting to get really sick of it all, hence the 60% who voted against 'the voice' amendment to our constitution. We dodged a nuclear headed bullet with that result!

    • @sicilianotoronto
      @sicilianotoronto 6 місяців тому

      @@andersonomo597 omg thank the LORD!

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 6 місяців тому +3

      yes, Gerry, and she hurt a lot of people along the way. She also spread a lot of hate and misinformation- I saw her perform live once (not great) and between every single song she lectured the audience. Much of what she said was untrue but she had a platform due to her "indigenous" status. My aunt worked on reservations her whole life and many of the programs that BSM trashed as racist were necessary and well-intended.

    • @schrecksekunde2118
      @schrecksekunde2118 5 місяців тому

      I'd rather say the help they receive is a way to right what was done to them before. to claim they're just living the easy life is bizarre and leaves out the small detail of genocide on an unprecedented scale in history. would you also claim that "jews have so many benefits and greased wheels" ‽ 🙄

    • @schrecksekunde2118
      @schrecksekunde2118 5 місяців тому

      ​​@@marymckenna6482 just because something was necessary doesn't mean it's not racist. your aunt can be a good person and work in a necessary occupation in and because of a racist system. those aren't mutually exclusive attributes and to claim otherwise is dishonest and bloody awful.

  • @lmarie6830
    @lmarie6830 3 місяці тому +5

    I'm 60 and Metis from Saskatchewan. I'm glad my Mother isn't alive to witness Buffy's disgrace. Buffy knew once this came out she would be toast.....that's why she quit her career. People of my and my mothers generation had so little native people up on the public stage, This hit hard.

    • @cleopatra1633
      @cleopatra1633 23 дні тому +1

      You get on stage because of your personality and talent. Nothing was stolen here.

  • @saspredydious9295
    @saspredydious9295 6 місяців тому +173

    I can definitely see a problem with falsely claiming indigenous heritage.
    For instance, here in Australia we provide billions of dollars to our First Nations people to improve their lives etc.
    Recently there has been an upsurge in people falsely claiming FN status. Unfortunately, these people only have to tick a box; no evidence required.
    This takes funding away from the folk that it was intended for. The people that need it.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 6 місяців тому +14

      it'd be weird if men tried to somehow game the system to receive funding that goes to women.

    • @dinkster1729
      @dinkster1729 6 місяців тому +12

      @@MicahMicahel They do participate in sports events where they have a better chance of winning or placing well as women since transgender women do do better than most women.

    • @FrostySloth
      @FrostySloth 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@dinkster1729im pretty sure you're replying to a what one might call "sarcasm"

    • @virginiaviola5097
      @virginiaviola5097 6 місяців тому +9

      I thought that you had to actually be recognised by the elder of a specific people in order to be recognised as indigenous? Because if that’s not the case then we should all tick YES, in the ‘do you identify as Indigenous’ box. One way to bridge the gap..money, medicine and education for everyone. And then we could all help each other.

    • @statementleaver8095
      @statementleaver8095 6 місяців тому

      You're ALL Fleas on a Dogs back!
      FN has NO Education,Wasn't Born in a Hospital.
      Where's the rest of You have 2 Passports!

  • @ninecatsmagee8384
    @ninecatsmagee8384 6 місяців тому +324

    She denied her true family and threatened her brother with slander when he tried to set the record straight. She wasn't indigenous nor Canadian, yet accepted prizes and honours reserved for those musicians. A thief, a compulsive liar with so many versions of her life to suit any occasion; a blackmailer and an imposter. Whether anybody decides to prosecute her remains to be seen.

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 6 місяців тому +8

      Yes, but is she not a woman? Her music is actually BRILLIANT.

    • @ninecatsmagee8384
      @ninecatsmagee8384 6 місяців тому +16

      @@mamatino3125 If you see a comparison [overlay] of her face and her brother's they are identical features. The fact that she threatened him with ruin and a potential prison sentence if he exposed her lies is rather damning and most people can visualise what it would mean to be treated in that way. "Hate wagon" is a bit strong isn't it? I think it's more a community recognition of how this mistreats and steals from the indigenous community itself when you accept honours and awards because you're [purportedly] Native American. That takes from other people with less opportunity than she had as an actual Italian-American as many have proved. In relation to other folk singers, she accepted many times more money for performances, even from the early days, pretending to be indigenous. That sets up people who make these claims in future for additional scrutiny -- and it's already happening.

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 6 місяців тому +5

      No matter what you say, you still have no right to try to cancel Buffy. She left the white ways she grew up with, and was adoptee by a Cree people. That was her choice. As I said, her songwriting was truly brilliant. Look at how literally they are trying to cancel Quincy Jones for having the hots for supposedly having the hits fir the young men who sang under his tutelage. Or literally you can see videos where the Woke mob is trying to cancel John K., the cartoonist who created Ren and Stimpy. Again, for sexual allegations. It IS a hate-train, as Mamatino said. Dr. Grande himself tried to defame spirtual writers Teal Swan and the beloved Ecart Tolle. This video is encouraging mob-mentality. Just read through some some of the comments. Rosanne Bar did not deserve to be cancelled, and neither does Buffy Sainte Marie. You cannot erase their actual work. Their art will always live.@@ninecatsmagee8384

    • @ninecatsmagee8384
      @ninecatsmagee8384 6 місяців тому

      @@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole "No matter what you say" is as close-minded as any "hate train" [your words] to do with legality of the situation, not to mention the morality. What happens with any of these people and the way in which it compromises their legacy IS the point. There's no prerequisite to be immoral in order to succeed and "young men" and everybody else needs to understand that they risk everything they achieve if they lie and cheat. My parents told me this many years ago. I still believe them.

    • @__rm307
      @__rm307 6 місяців тому +33

      @@mamatino3125so bc she “looks native” and you were entertained by her music - you are fine with her going around saying she’s the “first Native American to get an Oscar” when she’s actually an Italian-English woman from Massachusetts? And you’re ok w her threatening her family Into silence with lies + lawsuits?
      All bc you found her entertaining? And you have some weird theory about Italian / native bone structure?
      Very strange of your. Your priorities are all out of whack.
      But honestly says a lot about your generations’ values. Boomers praise this kind of person.

  • @Gobble_de_Goop
    @Gobble_de_Goop 4 місяці тому +44

    Buffy, Hilarious Baldwin, Rachel Dolezal, and Elizabeth Warren should do a reality show series together. What a trip that would be!! 😂😂

    • @JDoe-gf5oz
      @JDoe-gf5oz 4 місяці тому +1

      Rachel's performing on OnlyFans now. It's something else.

    • @buzzymm
      @buzzymm 2 місяці тому +4

      ABC's Celebrity Race Swap

    • @ericwalstrand3512
      @ericwalstrand3512 2 місяці тому +3

      We need to add Shaun King (Talcum X) to the list.

    • @cleopatra1633
      @cleopatra1633 23 дні тому

      Or a show of black americans calling themselves africans and walking around in african costumes and acting like eternal victims. Just as silly.

    • @angeladansie4378
      @angeladansie4378 17 днів тому

      Elizabeth Warren grew up with family stories about indigenous heritage, specifically that her parents had to elope because her father's family didn't approve of her mother because of her Native American ancestry. She took a DNA test & released the results. While she didn't have enough Native American DNA for tribal enrollment, the test did show Native American ancestry. And her career wasn't built on her minority ancestry like the others you mentioned.

  • @ylekiote99999
    @ylekiote99999 6 місяців тому +221

    Buffy´s reaction to all her lies is almost more disgusting than the lies themselves.

    • @redneckgirl3326
      @redneckgirl3326 6 місяців тому +3

      A few years ago, her sister posted her DNA results on her FB page. It did have Native American ancestry. Why did Buffy concoct an extraordinary story about being adopted if that was true?

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 6 місяців тому

      She decided her fate in her youth, knowing that she would live the lie till the bitter end. Buffy was an imposter who ultimatly became Native American my sheer will. Her pronouns are She-Cree. @@redneckgirl3326

    • @africaRBG
      @africaRBG 6 місяців тому

      that Native American ancestry could be very far back and not even known about in their family. Ive never seen the post, just guessing.@@redneckgirl3326

    • @winstonwhiteside9525
      @winstonwhiteside9525 5 місяців тому

      ​@@redneckgirl3326What percentage of her DNA is Native American? 1 percent? Less than 1 percent? That does not qualify one as being of that ethnicity, and therefore Buffy Sainte-Marie cannot claim to be Native American.

    • @hexl702too5
      @hexl702too5 5 місяців тому +9

      @@redneckgirl3326
      There could be a third story……
      Maybe it’s a fact she was born in Massachusetts, and those names are on her birth certificate….
      but it doesn’t mean that’s her real father…..
      Her mother could’ve had an affair with a native guy and got pregnant with her….
      Maybe she was even raped or assaulted…..
      And that’s what they’re covering up…..
      She sure looks like she has native blood to me……

  • @davejones6130
    @davejones6130 6 місяців тому +213

    Dear Governer Generals Office of Canada,
    As a Canadian I am shocked and appalled by the revelations made about Buffy Sainte-Marie - or rather "Beverly Jean Santamaria" who is her real name by birth - in the CBC's most recent episode of The Fifth Estate. After watching this entire episode from start to finish it is 100 % clear to me that Ms Saint-Marie is firstly NOT CANADIAN, and secondly NOT OF ABORIGINAL Culture. The fact that she falsely and selfishly adopted this persona to further her career and then used her Lawyers to threaten and persecute her very own birth family in the USA when they tried to expose her as a fake is completely abhorent.
    In terms of your organization, I cannot stand by and not protest the fact that this woman was given The Order of Canada honor under completely false pretenses. The Order of Canada is now tainted by this situation ; its a national embarrassment that we were fooled and tricked by this woman, and something must be done about it. The First Peoples of Canada are making a decades long case for "Truth and Reconciliation", and its ironic that this now applies to someone who claimed to be one of their own and abused their culture in the process.
    With this letter I hereby call for Buffy Sainte-Marie to be stripped of her title of Officer of the Order of Canada which was awarded on April 17, 1997. This award was based on her actions under the fake identity of being aboriginal and a real canadian.... I quote from your website: " Born of Cree parents on the Piapot Reserve in Saskatchewan ". The Order of Canada is for Canadian born citizens; she is effectively disqualified based on this falsehood alone and must give up this title and "face the music"
    I would appreciate your office's prompt attention to this important matter, as this is hurting a huge amount of people and they need to get some relief. I trust that you will act on this and clean up this mess for the benefit of our country's honour and also our aboriginal peoples who have been lied to for over 50 years, and didn't deserve this.
    Thank you

    • @ktdale1340
      @ktdale1340 6 місяців тому +22

      Damn I wish I could copy and paste this. You nailed it from the first paragraph to the last one.

    • @facistbuster
      @facistbuster 6 місяців тому +14

      As a canadian with a great-great-grand mother who was from the first nation i'm deceived and disappointed by Buffy Ste-Marie's career. It's irreparable.

    • @Tiglath-PileserXIX
      @Tiglath-PileserXIX 6 місяців тому +16

      I absolutely second your opinions. This woman stole the identity of an entire ethnic group of peoples and profited from such theft. This is so wrong on so many levels.

    • @andreacc7795
      @andreacc7795 6 місяців тому +14

      I received a Gov General's Award and earned it. I agree that her award should be taken back

    • @leannemo7382
      @leannemo7382 6 місяців тому +16

      💯🎯 As a woman of Canadian Iroquois/Mohawk decent, THANK YOU!! 👏👏👏

  • @Tevoro1962
    @Tevoro1962 6 місяців тому +35

    My mother told me, back in the early 1970's, when I was a kid, that Buffy was notorious for lying about her indigenous heritage. So - apparently this controversy is quite old.

    • @lindajones8101
      @lindajones8101 6 місяців тому +5

      An old controversy it seems in which people who knew her personally either from her childhood, or I have also heard from her early early days in the music scene, knew about it, about her false identity, but the rest of us never got the memo!

    • @catlover-fo1jy
      @catlover-fo1jy 6 місяців тому +2

      not to people who lived outside of Mass.

  • @gloryinfinita5380
    @gloryinfinita5380 6 місяців тому +9

    That entire early 60s NYC folk scene was made up of affluent young adults who wanted to be or pretended to be something that their not. Back then journalists wrote that Pete Seegar had blue collar roots and he was singing for the "working man", yet his dad was a Harvard professor and his mom was a teacher at Julliard. Early on Dylan was written up to have been "a young Minnesota guy who spent his youth freight train hopping like his idol Woody Gutherie", yet he was just a middle class kid who dropped out of University of Minnesota and went to New York. And obviously Buffy and her team ran with the Algonquin, Mi’kmaq, and Cree tribe bits. People were a bit more gullible back then and journalist obviously did not do in depth reporting. Money talks and it reminds you that the music business is all an act at the end of the day.

  • @1967PONTIACGTO
    @1967PONTIACGTO 6 місяців тому +68

    It's taken me a long time to accept the case against Buffy Sainte-Marie, but this is a convincing summary... especially the DNA test linking her sister and son

    • @Satah-bi4nd
      @Satah-bi4nd 5 місяців тому +5

      I m very disappointed in this person she mocked indigenous people who suffered in the foster care system during 60s scoop and residential school survivors.these hainieosr crimes are not agame or a joke I'm part Spanish and indigenous.being indigenous is a blessing and a struggle.i give Creedence and respect to.what has happened to survivors of residential school and foster care.buffy saint Marie should not have lied .she should have just been honest.and be an ally to indigenous people s not culturally misappropriation.of indigenous person culture and way of life

    • @desertari
      @desertari 4 місяці тому

      And you care because ?

    • @kaydenpat
      @kaydenpat 3 місяці тому +2

      @@desertariBecause it’s a story of deception and celebrity. Next question? Or do you have something better to do than asking silly questions?

    • @desertari
      @desertari 3 місяці тому

      And your mission in life is to track the moral purities or impuities of others?@@kaydenpat

  • @billybarty100
    @billybarty100 6 місяців тому +56

    The sick thing is, people who do this type of thing always have malice and hatred in their heart for their own people

    • @xxcelr8rs
      @xxcelr8rs 6 місяців тому

      The people that buy an artists product just because they are some down trodden race are sick. White girls haven't bought American white boy music since the Beach Boys. Yo MTV rap.

    • @Hoppenoffer
      @Hoppenoffer 6 місяців тому +2

      Bull pucky. “Always” come on

    • @asuperstraightpureblood
      @asuperstraightpureblood 6 місяців тому +4

      They do. Now she wanders the shadow realm, the girl without a family or a home. Lol

  • @Alice-ov3rd
    @Alice-ov3rd 6 місяців тому +252

    My mom is so upset right now and doesn’t want to believe it. She was a huge fan of Buffy Sainte Marie. I didn’t know until now and after I showed her she went into full blown cognitive dissonance. Thank you Dr. Grande. Sometimes the truth hurts. 😢

    • @giabarrone7422
      @giabarrone7422 6 місяців тому +4

      She still believes Buffy after watching this!?

    • @mlovmo
      @mlovmo 6 місяців тому +15

      So Buffy had to be native for your mother to be a fan?

    • @Bigern2998
      @Bigern2998 6 місяців тому +29

      ​@@mlovmoshe appealed to a lot of people more because of her story. Particularly indigenous people.

    • @TemujinMSM
      @TemujinMSM 6 місяців тому

      A lot of us aren't buying it.@@Bigern2998

    • @TemujinMSM
      @TemujinMSM 6 місяців тому

      Yes period
      @@giabarrone7422

  • @peterruddick1952
    @peterruddick1952 6 місяців тому +16

    I worked for Polaroid in the 70's with a number of people from the Stoneham/Reading (MA) area. I clearly remember one of our mechanics insisting he knew Buffy St. Marie was a fraud

    • @anndarcy8193
      @anndarcy8193 6 місяців тому +1

      I read she threatened her family but I wondered about all the people she grew up with. I think in those days people had more privacy to re- invent themselves as they chose ( for better or worse)

    • @JDoe-gf5oz
      @JDoe-gf5oz 6 місяців тому +3

      @@anndarcy8193It would come up every few years but nobody really cared about some old hippie folk singer and the media never pushed it.

  • @LWilliamsYoutube
    @LWilliamsYoutube 6 місяців тому +15

    Wow, I'm from Saskatchewan and always supported Buffy St. Marie with pride for her musical accomplishments. This deception saddens me about her disguised identity.

  • @canadafreedom
    @canadafreedom 6 місяців тому +53

    Canadians held her in high regard, and I am deeply distressed. Consider the significant number of authentic indigenous individuals who were not duly recognized. It is disheartening that we merely featured her image on a Canadian stamp, while she has been honored with the "Order of Canada" and numerous other accolades. If this story is true, It is imperative that all these honors be revoked, rescinded or all set on fire. They are not worth the paper they are printed on!

    • @dwinthrop1015
      @dwinthrop1015 6 місяців тому +7

      Is her music counted as Canadian under Canadian content laws?

    • @user-od8wp4xr1w
      @user-od8wp4xr1w 6 місяців тому +4

      total fraud a thief scammer

    • @rfastkats924
      @rfastkats924 6 місяців тому +4

      @@dwinthrop1015 she got the Order of Canada and she isn't even Canadian

    • @stevenweint7893
      @stevenweint7893 6 місяців тому

      You seem very vindictive.

    • @AM-eq2ir
      @AM-eq2ir 6 місяців тому

      I believe so. @@dwinthrop1015

  • @tablescapesbydonna
    @tablescapesbydonna 6 місяців тому +359

    Very disappointing as a First Nations individual who looked up to her - all I have to say is Indigeneity can't be earned. She took up space that belonged to Indigenous people! Lying about who you are is never okay

    • @ocnblizzard4764
      @ocnblizzard4764 6 місяців тому +13

      Yes, she stole Ernest Monias's place on Sesame Street 😮

    • @BackyardButcher
      @BackyardButcher 6 місяців тому +20

      She also stole the girl on the Land of Lakes butter

    • @shilowaters6082
      @shilowaters6082 6 місяців тому +17

      I'm confused why American "Indigenous" get treated like they are so special? As far as I know their land was not taken, but conquered 100s and 100s of years ago. Yet people in modern days act like they deserve special treatment and benefits? Would they not be able to keep their traditions and stuff going if not for some kind of treaty?

    • @JACKDAWFISH
      @JACKDAWFISH 6 місяців тому +10

      Look up to Jesus, everyone else is fake.

    • @ocnblizzard4764
      @ocnblizzard4764 6 місяців тому +2

      @@BackyardButcher ha ha ha!!!!

  • @ryetim32
    @ryetim32 6 місяців тому +102

    What she did to her brother and niece is appalling

    • @liftedgifted6010
      @liftedgifted6010 5 місяців тому +1

      SO GLAD they found the strength to come forward with the truth while Bluffy is still alive to live through it.

    • @desertari
      @desertari 4 місяці тому

      Gee, and your documentation is?

  • @LeeMaiden
    @LeeMaiden 6 місяців тому +3

    This is wild. I was told all my life I was white. my daughter found my birth mother when I was 42 to try to get medical history, my Mother and I were reunited, that's when I found out I'm Choctaw Native American. I was excited and told my best friend and he said to me, You've never looked in the mirror? Everybody but me could see it. I found out a lot, that I was pretty much stolen in 1965 and sold. If the Indian Child Welfare Act of 1978 would have been in place, it wouldn't have happened to me. But it was a decade too soon for that. I'm mostly Choctaw with a splash of Irish. It's still difficult for me to look in a mirror and see it, but all my friends have always known, but I didn't.

    • @hessu3
      @hessu3 6 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for sharing your story. I am glad to hear you could find your real mother before it was too late. I wish you and both your families all the best!

  • @rl3293
    @rl3293 6 місяців тому +169

    Now she's claiming her mom told her privately, between the 2 of them, that she "may" have been born outside the marriage. What a terrible claim to make, against her long gone mom, just to retain her riches and story. Her lies still keep evolving. She's become famous because of her native claims. She claimed that she was oppressed as a native. BS. I'm a white woman with some Choctaw ancestry. My grandmother was born on the Oklahoma rez Indian Territory. The BIA has always maintained native roles very well. My grandmother, her siblings and her mother are all listed in the Dawes Rolls.

    • @AndySabola11
      @AndySabola11 6 місяців тому +9

      Just like Shaun 'my mom was a ho' King.

    • @Aaron-kj8dv
      @Aaron-kj8dv 6 місяців тому +11

      Like that Shaun King guy who keeps saying he's a product of his mom cheating on his dad with a black guy. It's so sinister, even if true to put it out there like that.

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 6 місяців тому

      Every Native family is not on the Native rolls. My ex supposedly had NA ancestry from some obscure tribe but try finding it. It's probably from a female who married into the family before 1850 in Tennessee. His family pics definitely show some mixing of something for a supposedly White family. It would probably take extensive research and many of the records were destroyed in the Civil War.

    • @nastybigJim
      @nastybigJim 6 місяців тому +5

      @@AndySabola11Wait are you talking about Talcum X or Martin Luther Cream?

    • @skunkrat01
      @skunkrat01 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@AndySabola11had no idea who this was. Thank you for prompting me to look him up so I could read #ShaunKingSuccessStories

  • @SweetUniverse
    @SweetUniverse 6 місяців тому +81

    One of my friends is native american. When she was in college in the 60s, she joined the Indian Club. When they heard Buffy St. Matie was going to be in town, they had fundraisers & pooled their money to get her to do a concert for them. She blew them off. She was seen at a party that night for the rich, white & beautiful instead.

    • @fabiengerard8142
      @fabiengerard8142 6 місяців тому +2

      Quite a desillusion, I imagine, but had she first accepted their proposal, and later cancelled it for a more lucrative offer?!?
      Whatever, professional artists have quite a few prior commitments sometimes, and and also full agendas. Sometimes they’re sincerely willing to be kind, and say yes for an extra one… before realizing that very day they really won’t make it ! (I happened to know such situation backstage).

    • @jecarlin
      @jecarlin 6 місяців тому

      Kinda like how at Harvard, the Native American student association wanted to meet with Elizabeth Warren but she never did.

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 6 місяців тому +25

      Sweet, I saw her in person in the 70's and was taken aback at her appearance- it was like she was a charicature of a native person- tons of indian jewelry, animal skins, fringe- and her hair was clearly dyed a deep black. What I remember most is the dark orange tone to her face, heavily made-up, and her lips were powdered white as if to emphasize her dark make-up.

    • @wendycrawford1792
      @wendycrawford1792 6 місяців тому +12

      @@fabiengerard8142 Yes. Well, l don’t think that was the case here. She could have been decent enough to ‘hang with the students who’d pooled their money for her, and gone to the fancy party after spending some time with the students. These parties do tend to go on into the wee hours. She could have made her grand appearance, and been fashionably late.

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому

      Well, that's her choice.
      She can choose to go to whatever place she wants. Free choice.
      I've never been able to stand her, and I'm not surprised that she's a liar who fabricated her entire life/heritage, but that doesn't mean she can't choose one event over the other. Free choice.

  • @josephbryant6758
    @josephbryant6758 6 місяців тому +12

    I was always told growing up by my family that we had Cherokee heritage,we even had dark hair ,dark eyes dark skin,i never doubted it.Sveral years ago i took an ancestry dna test and it revealed i had no native American ancestry but instead 5 percent Asian and Scandinavian ,European. Boy was i surprised and a little take n back.....

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому +3

      You know, I don't know if this is true - you'd have to look into it - but I once read an article that said that those tests are not totally reliable. What they did, if I remember right, was had one guy send in his DNA to several different companies, and each company came back with a different result.
      I've never had mine tested. I'm kind of curious about it, because it's completely unclear where my maternal grandfather was from, but, I don't know, I guess I've been hesitant to spend money on it ever since I read that article.

    • @josephbryant6758
      @josephbryant6758 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Julia-nl3gq I have heard that as well. I wish you luck if you decide to do it.

    • @cleopatra1633
      @cleopatra1633 23 дні тому

      How pathetic.

  • @TedATL1
    @TedATL1 6 місяців тому +3

    All you have to do is look at photos of:
    1) Buffy when young --- she was NOT dark skinned
    2) her Anglo mother is IDENTICAL in face structure. Broad heavy face and cheekbones.

  • @blazingstar9638
    @blazingstar9638 6 місяців тому +197

    Ppl in Canada loved Buffy, she even got her own stamp!
    I know ppl who are legit hurt by this! It’s depressing. I told them never trust a celebrity , a lot of them are narcissists, and also in this case a fraud

    • @wormwoodcocktail
      @wormwoodcocktail 6 місяців тому +15

      Same. I love her work so much. She’s such a talented folk musician and one of the few remaining 60s protest singers. I think she is a tremendously beautiful woman, and her songs like Universal Soldier are masterpieces. Her lying sucks so hard. She’s talented enough to not do this and still have a career. She didn’t need to cheat Indigenous people.

    • @florencechestnut2270
      @florencechestnut2270 6 місяців тому +10

      You know over the past few years I've noticed alot of celebrities I once looked up to have betrayed many of us and yes even shown alot of hatred against their long time fans. I feel that all my heroes I once had are now gone.

    • @donnie8917
      @donnie8917 6 місяців тому +7

      I never loved the cow.

    • @berndtherrenvolk1951
      @berndtherrenvolk1951 6 місяців тому +4

      @@donnie8917I think you mean “bison.”

    • @mkravec7943
      @mkravec7943 6 місяців тому

      Are you sure she knew the truth?

  • @tashak.4186
    @tashak.4186 6 місяців тому +29

    Non-indigenous Canadian here who was a fan of hers for a long time. I felt very let down by her when I heard this news. Despite her talent, being deceptive for this long is pretty hard to forgive. Her entire career has been based on a lie and it’s hard to look past that. In fact in makes her look kinda pathetic and I pity her.

    • @wintercame
      @wintercame 6 місяців тому +2

      I've been a big fan and she didn't need to lie for me to love her music. Now I don't know if I can even do that. Shame on her and double shame for making her brother go to his grave with those accusations.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому +1

      how she threatened her family is unforgiveable

  • @stevesedberry
    @stevesedberry 5 місяців тому +5

    Her songwriting is genius and cannot be duplicated by anyone. The music business is vicious. I am happy for her success.

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому

      Her songwriting is so bad. I've never been able to stand her, or her ''music'', and I'm not surprised, really, that she turned out to be a narciccistic liar - her personality was always so obviously arrogent.
      Not sure why anyone would be happy for a liar. To each their own, but I personally choose to be happy for good, honest people - not liars who threaten their own families with false sexual abuse allegations.

    • @thomasjordan5578
      @thomasjordan5578 5 місяців тому

      So - her stage persona is contrived, an illusion. For me this news does not ruin my day, evidently for others it does. Sometimes maybe an illusion which brings joy is a better thing than a reality which does not.

    • @kennethclaar922
      @kennethclaar922 Місяць тому

      I bet this is Buffy . Or Buffy believing she is steve .

  • @robertrobert7924
    @robertrobert7924 6 місяців тому +3

    Many early Western movies portraying American Indians chose actors of Mediterranean descent to play the parts of Indians, rather than Indigenous People. Their tawny skin, black hair and "Roman noses" could mimic Indigenous faces much easier than Celto-Germanic faces. Buffy's Italian ancestry made it easy for her to do the same. I am appalled by her deception, but realize there are actually other women like her that have done the same. Even a white woman who posed as a black woman to get a job with the NAACP, and then was fired after her parents exposed her lies.

  • @remoteviewingartistmusicia9010
    @remoteviewingartistmusicia9010 6 місяців тому +39

    My wife was born and raised on an Indian reservation in North Dakota she's Chippewa Cree . Her family and cousins still live on the Rez. She told me years ago stories which are bizarre to me people claiming to be Native American.. she said that her relatives actual Native Americans on a reservation never really understood why people make these claims they don't know the real struggle to be Native American .. A lot of them don't even tell people they're Native American from a Rez they've learned it's not worth the headache. Racism is still going strong today just like yesterday against Native Americans.

    • @jessestewart169
      @jessestewart169 6 місяців тому +2

      Amen

    • @lynfordwilson4384
      @lynfordwilson4384 6 місяців тому

      Racism will always be part of american culture.
      As long as the republicans are in existence.
      The ex-president has proven he doesn't like people of color.

    • @Rasbiff
      @Rasbiff 3 місяці тому +2

      I had a diabetic guy in my class as a kid. Because of his diabetes, he was given his own, specialized food in the canteen while everyone else ate the "normal" food.
      There were several girls who said they wished they were diabetic, just to get the special food. Doesn't matter that the special food for the diabetic kid was worse, they just wanted the honor of receiving a personalized meal.
      Many people fail to really see what other peoples' situations fully entail, and are blinded by what they think is an opportunity to stand out.

  • @AndySabola11
    @AndySabola11 6 місяців тому +296

    She did many commendable things.
    Inventing a false background as your persona is deeply pathological.

    • @trog.lodyte
      @trog.lodyte 6 місяців тому

      For years Cher played an indian in her career when she's in reality an Armenian.

    • @user-ct7ln4qp5p
      @user-ct7ln4qp5p 6 місяців тому +10

      She did more good than harm! Its pathological to claim she was pretending alone!.and there is a difference between pretending and being absorbed into a different identity!

    • @berndtherrenvolk1951
      @berndtherrenvolk1951 6 місяців тому +30

      @@user-ct7ln4qp5pYou’re Elizabeth Warren, aren’t you?

    • @user-ct7ln4qp5p
      @user-ct7ln4qp5p 6 місяців тому +1

      @@berndtherrenvolk1951 who is that?

    • @landofthelivingskies3318
      @landofthelivingskies3318 6 місяців тому

      ​@@user-ct7ln4qp5p....BLUFFY AINT CREE IS HER NAME NOW.

  • @user-vt8kv6gy9l
    @user-vt8kv6gy9l 5 місяців тому +3

    The real shame is that there are so few Indigenous voices in Canadian history. She lied. Its horrible. But how Canada has treated and continues to treat Indigenous peoples is deplorable. Would be great if we could use this as an opportunity to raise awareness of that. We dont see nearly the attention and vitriol to these larger issues as we've seen for this story. Shows that celebrity is priority over thousands of people living under oppression.

  • @user-oo7tx6fk3m
    @user-oo7tx6fk3m 6 місяців тому +160

    Is anyone upset about the fact that she sent her brother a handwritten letter in the 70's threatening to go to the police about her "sexual sadist abuser" allegations against him, because he mentioned to the Sesame Street producer about her real Italian/English identity? I bet the Sesame Street producers had a harsh sit down with her and told her they wouldn't give her the job unless she guaranteed that her brother would be silenced and never tell the truth about her not being indigenous. So then she mailed off that letter to her brother, along with a threat from her lawyer. Meanwhile, there was a 10 year old little girl living in his house, Buffy's niece. So the take away from this letter is that Buffy was willing to go to the police to protect her career, but not her niece. The outcome? Her brother never brought up her heritage again, and Buffy never went to the police. In the end, Buffy chose protecting her career over protecting her niece...that is IF her sex abuse allegations are true. Which, her letter and her behaviour is making me think that the sex abuse claims are fabricated. If Buffy is sick enough to make up an entire false identity, it's not that much of a stretch to make up a story about being a victim of a crime. Her "growing up family" must be just appalled and so traumatized by her behaviour over the past 60+ years. And when I watch her now and her interviews....I see red flags signalling what I have learned over the years to be narcissistic sociopathic behaviour markers. Buffy, if you were perfectly ready to go to the police in a move to protect your career, you should have been ready to go to the police to protect an innocent 10 year old girl. OR, the whole sexual pedophile story was another lie in a long line of lies. Which is it? I notice in her response to the fifth estate story, she does not deny writing that letter. Thank god her brother kept it. AND ANOTHER INCONSISTENCY! She claims her Mass. family that adopted her is her 'growing up' family, and then there's the Cree family that 'claimed' her....well, didn't her Massachusetts also 'claim' her??? If all her claims are accurate, then she was adopted by two families. So why does she place so much MORE value on the indigenous family than her 'growing up family'. Both adoptive families CHOSE her. But it is obvious she places way more value on the Cree family, because it is key to her financial gain and fame. I never trust a person who places different values on things like family and love.

    • @landofthelivingskies3318
      @landofthelivingskies3318 6 місяців тому +17

      She was never adopted. She had a real loving family growing up. Her siblings are her true siblings, meaning same mom...same dad. Right up till her 20s, she lovingly called them mom and dad. Then she decided she could pretend to be native, and make money doing it. One thing I'll give Canada credit for was there excellent birth records. If there's one thing Canada can take pride in is their indigenous record keeping.

    • @katwashere194
      @katwashere194 6 місяців тому +3

      I agree 100%.

    • @WildZephyr
      @WildZephyr 6 місяців тому +16

      I am sure her sexual abuse allegations were nothing but a lie to shut him up. But yeah, if they were true, imagine leaving your niece like that.

    • @bebop2523
      @bebop2523 6 місяців тому +11

      It was actually the opposite with Sesame Street, they weren’t saying that she’d better shut her brother up if she wanted to be on the show, she had already been on the show and the producer met her biological brother by chance on an airplane afterwards and became suspicious. Buffy was never adopted by the family in Massachusetts, they are her biological family. If she had been adopted by them, then it wouldn’t have been an issue for the producer to meet her adoptive brother.

    • @VertigoMusicMagazine
      @VertigoMusicMagazine 6 місяців тому

      My mother went to school with Buffy St. Marie and she told me for fifty years that Buffy was a fraud. That Buffy was hurting her parents.

  • @mary1326
    @mary1326 6 місяців тому +330

    I can't believe it's taken this long to expose her story. I'm Canadian and feel very duped by her claims of Indigenous heritage given the way she's benefitted from this.

    • @JM-jy7yj
      @JM-jy7yj 6 місяців тому

      Many of us have known for DECADES. ok? Many of us are sophisticated and KNOW. I have met this women and she REEKED of performative BULLSHIT. Most of you are NAIVE.

    • @bananka4905
      @bananka4905 6 місяців тому +22

      She threatened her family to keep them from speaking the truth. She had the money and good lawyers. They didn't have the money .

    • @manlybaker3098
      @manlybaker3098 6 місяців тому +7

      She threatened to say her father abuse/molested her.

    • @rosewoodsteel6656
      @rosewoodsteel6656 6 місяців тому

      I believe it was her brother that she threatened. @@manlybaker3098

    • @thedowagerd.2431
      @thedowagerd.2431 6 місяців тому

      Brother@@manlybaker3098

  • @allwomn1
    @allwomn1 6 місяців тому +3

    She will pass knowing her whole life was a fraud, she will know that the people who took her in and loved her unconditionally know she's a liar and a fraud who used them to get what she wanted. They will know how she manipulated the people into sympathizing for her for being a victim, and how she destroyed her own family to keep her lies hidden. She is a despicable human being and she will be left with all those thoughts all by herself in the end.

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому

      Agreed, she is totally despicable. But I do wonder if she will be left alone with all those thoughs in the end, like you said....I mean, I hope she is, because she deserves to be alone with the thoughts of all the hideous things she did, but, I wonder, because some people are so, I don't know, so full of themselves and arrogant that they just don't care about that stuff, and therefore don't feel bad about it.

  • @danielfinney6071
    @danielfinney6071 6 місяців тому +6

    Sacheen Littlefeather: Mexican. Iron Eyes Cody: Sicilian. Now this. I was born and raised in Oklahoma, my maternal grandfather (who could have passed for Chief Dan George) was half-French, half-Cherokee. One thing you learn there is the 4% Cherokee I wound up with, which doesn't begin to show on my map-of-Ireland mug, doesn't mean squat. I had a lot of friends with awesome names, and still have a great love for indigenous culture, but I'd get laughed at for trying to claim it. I lived on Kauai for decades, where Buffy also lived for a long time. All the new-age haoles who made a huge deal over claims like "I'm one thirtieth Cherokee" cracked me up. Would love to take them to Red Earth or, better yet, a 49.

  • @bengt_axle
    @bengt_axle 6 місяців тому +264

    What is most incredulous is that the doctor who delivered her, also delivered her brother and signed her birth certificate. Her brother attempted to call her out by contacting a local newspaper -- decades ago -- and she threatened him. The whole family knew she was making the story up and Buffy never had a doubt that she was not adopted. For the earliest years of her life with her siblings, she had light brown or even blond hair and had quite a normal family life with her family. It was only in her early 20's that she decided to change her identity because it fit well with her singing. She has defrauded the world for over 60 years. She should apologize to the indigenous communities she mislead and to the Canadian population.

    • @Tiglath-PileserXIX
      @Tiglath-PileserXIX 6 місяців тому +3

      I suspect her family was complicit in the fraud when she became famous and successful.

    • @renatatarnawski5974
      @renatatarnawski5974 6 місяців тому +10

      Shania Twain has done the same
      She's Irish
      Her step-dad was either part or pure indian

    • @molliwilson5639
      @molliwilson5639 6 місяців тому +20

      Yes, her biological mother I’m sure recalled giving birth to her and her siblings. She is a horrible person to accuse her brother of sex crimes if he continues to expose her, she is obviously sociopathic

    • @molliwilson5639
      @molliwilson5639 6 місяців тому +10

      @@Tiglath-PileserXIX That was 65years ago. They had nothing to gain by being complicit and perhaps had no idea how to discuss her lies to the public

    • @helenestiernstrand6575
      @helenestiernstrand6575 6 місяців тому

      Shes only defrauding dumb people who belives ”identity” is more impostant than talent.
      If she wants to dress as an Induan its totally up to her. Doesnt make her one though. Its just the identity-marxists who belive such nonsense.
      Incetivise ”race” and this is what you get.

  • @gregoryluna535
    @gregoryluna535 6 місяців тому +38

    I saw her response where she said her birth mom confided in her that she hooked up with somebody other than her husband implying her mom hooked up with an Indian. She will go to any lengths to justify her self-proclaimed identity.

    • @bebop2523
      @bebop2523 6 місяців тому +19

      So she’s changing her story yet again now that they proved she was never adopted?

    • @dimitriosotis8632
      @dimitriosotis8632 6 місяців тому +5

      I hadn't heard that---it is the only plausible way she COULD be indigenous. But she'd have to now step forward and PROVIDE EVIDENCE.

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 6 місяців тому +12

      Right. That was her lowest point, throwing her own mother under the bus to save her butt.

    • @VertigoMusicMagazine
      @VertigoMusicMagazine 5 місяців тому +5

      @@marymckenna6482 Her dead mother at that.

    • @johng4093
      @johng4093 3 місяці тому +4

      She's painted herself into a corner and can't escape her lies. Her fans would likely forgive her if she would apologize and come clean.

  • @inthezone4123
    @inthezone4123 6 місяців тому

    I'm Canadian, and in my 50s. While I have heard of Buffy, I can't name one of her tunes. This story serves to sadden many First Nations people, and to distract from the horror of what is happening in Gaza. In her life, Buffy drew attention to First Nations issues. I don't know if it was greed or mental illness that led to this impersonation.

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому

      It doesn't distract from Gaza. People will read about what they're interested in - if they're interested in Buffy, they'll read about that; if they're interested in Gaza, they'll read about that.
      I persoanlly am not interested at all in Gaza, and not really interested in Buffy, either. Sure, I watched this one video on her, because youtube suggested it and I needed a distraction from my stress, but otherwise I wouldn't normally bother with her.
      I'm mentioning this becuase I'm wanting to gently and kindly point out to you that people don't have to be interested in certain topic, what they're interested is their own personal choice....I guess I got the idea that you feel that people have to be interested in Gaza (sorry if I got this wrong), and they don't. What we're interested in is a personal choice.
      I'm also Canadian, mid-forties.

  • @BrenB125
    @BrenB125 5 місяців тому +12

    It's one thing to identify as something but its another to use blackmail to protect your own lies.

    • @cleopatra1633
      @cleopatra1633 23 дні тому

      Identifying as someone or something else is pathetic.

  • @eddypaul8959
    @eddypaul8959 6 місяців тому +33

    The big problem with lying about who you are means no one can really know you. What a sad way to live.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 6 місяців тому

      the sad thing about identity politics period. People fool themselves and take up identities instead of just allowing themselves to be. what hey are. Canada is insane right now. Buffy is probably one of the more sane ones now.

    • @cinemathequerouge317
      @cinemathequerouge317 6 місяців тому

      In this business, you rarely ever KNOW someone. Some performers are very boring people.

  • @sonjakramer8446
    @sonjakramer8446 6 місяців тому +50

    She also received the Order of Canada in 1997, and won Juneau awards in the Indigenous categories. Our cultures and heritages are being systematically erased. It seems nothing is sacred anymore unless you can identify as something you are not!

    • @ItsAllOptics
      @ItsAllOptics 6 місяців тому +3

      And she's now been proven not to be Canadian at all, all her awards need to be called back.

    • @jelkel25
      @jelkel25 6 місяців тому +1

      If she was adopted from a Native mother or father she would have been unlikely to know she was Cree. Native and Metis babies who were put up for adoption (willingly or not so willingly) in Canada were purposely not told about their heritage. You can make a rough guess from the area you were born in, that's it.

    • @mlovmo
      @mlovmo 6 місяців тому

      Not erased, just gamed. And she pulled it off.

    • @digital6string1
      @digital6string1 6 місяців тому +1

      And the taxes she evaded@@ItsAllOptics

    • @ItsAllOptics
      @ItsAllOptics 6 місяців тому

      @@jelkel25 She was Not Adopted. She lied. Her proven birth is in the USA. What an insult to her real mother & father, that she would claim they adopted her. Her brother and sister where severely threatened their lives would be ruined if they kept on trying to tell people she wasn't indigenous back when she first began her lie in her 20s.

  • @user-md4lb6di8k
    @user-md4lb6di8k 5 місяців тому +11

    It’s amazing how vicious a liar can be when she is called out.

  • @jbe8959
    @jbe8959 6 місяців тому +3

    She wasn't ahead of her time.. she was a narcissist.. also an opportunist to indulge herself with a grandiose psuede.. she noticed that no one else in the indigenous industry was doing what she did but quite frankly.. if she was very rude towards a lot of native musicians that tarnished her own reputation and often not invited to perform in a lot of indigenous events..but she wedged her way to the stage then had the audacity to demand she to be paid 20k.. when the other native musicians were doing it for free for plausible causes.. buffy sent her thugs for payment..
    there is a lot of behind the scenes that is yet to be unfolded because there wasn't Facebook or other social platforms... But was brought to the attention of AIM.. they were aware of her charades but it took a external investigation to finally expose her.. her brother was NOT the only one who she threatened false rape..
    I have a hard time figuring out how the hell she got so popular because it certainly was her goat like singing voice that won her the awards but utilizing a false pretence she actually cared for my native people. All along it was for her to obtain financial gain.

  • @rpk1519
    @rpk1519 6 місяців тому +66

    Thank you for covering this. As a Canadian I am shocked and saddened. She was noted as the first Indigenous person to win an Oscar for "Up Where We Belong".

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 6 місяців тому

      why are you saddened? Do you get sad when a person with a penis is a woman? Why is this different?

    • @katiejai9848
      @katiejai9848 6 місяців тому

      do you wonder if her claiming "indigenous" status had a small part in her winning

  • @Sotzume
    @Sotzume 6 місяців тому +176

    I have been a devotee of Buffy Sainte-Marie since 1966 in my teens. She inspired me to teach myself the guitar and eventually I performed her songs along with many of the famous folk singers of that period. I even attended UMass Amherst as an undergrad and saw her perform in the spring of 1971 where she was given a standing ovation as a fellow alum of UMass. I always thought she was born in Maine and was Cree and adopted. Of course, one's heroes often fail and this came as a total shock to me. To find out one's hero is a fraud, and a deplorable liar to gain fame, fortune on the backs of others, is dispiriting. I wish she would come clean but at her age, in her early 80's, I don't believe she will. I did not know about the DNA test of her sister and I wondered why Buffy didn't just take a DNA test herself to reveal her actual parentage, but then, she knew she wasn't Indigenous, didn't she...so why take the test.

    • @Shastavalleyoutdoorsman
      @Shastavalleyoutdoorsman 6 місяців тому +23

      She may have become delusional over time.

    • @jamesrobertson9149
      @jamesrobertson9149 6 місяців тому +8

      That is interesting. Was her heritage a factor in why she got a standing ovation do you remember?

    • @wormwoodcocktail
      @wormwoodcocktail 6 місяців тому +3

      Your story is fascinating. I’m a younger fan of Buffy and very sad. Any other folk musicians you like?

    • @wormwoodcocktail
      @wormwoodcocktail 6 місяців тому +3

      @ pipermccool I like Baez a lot. I actually prefer Buffy’s cover of House Carpenter to Baez. I also like the work of Baez’s sister and brother-in-law, Mimi and Richard Farina. I haven’t heard Joe Hill by Baez live at Woodstock. I’ll check it out. Thank you.

    • @Sternodox
      @Sternodox 6 місяців тому +6

      ​@@wormwoodcocktailCheck out Sandy Denny.

  • @Lillyofthevalley222
    @Lillyofthevalley222 6 місяців тому +1

    A girl related to my family through marriage has always insisted that she was Canadian Indigenous (we live in Canada). She had her DNA done a couple of years ago that showed she had Scottish, Irish and Italian ancestry. She tried to keep this a secret. It’s so weird how many people ant to be indigenous!
    Is it a type of victim seeking?
    Seems like a huge insult to actual indigenous people!

  • @LetishaL
    @LetishaL 6 місяців тому +8

    12:38 An imagined reality is no truth at all, it's just an imagined reality. No one likes being lied to.

    • @joejudge8276
      @joejudge8276 3 місяці тому

      Now, you just hold it right there, mister! Maybe an imagined reality isn't true of you, but it's true for me. 😁

  • @janetleemarino8702
    @janetleemarino8702 6 місяців тому +42

    Disgusting that she wouldn't and didn't claim her ancestry of Italian-English heritage, shameful. I grew up close to where she did and around the same time in Massachusetts and an of Sicilian ancestry, my family was then and still am very proud of our ancestry.

    • @Someone-kg8qf
      @Someone-kg8qf 6 місяців тому

      If a man can claim to be a woman because they identify as one I think Buffy is a brave and stunning Native Woman because she identifies as one. Science and genetics don't matter, it's about how you feel.

    • @__rm307
      @__rm307 6 місяців тому +7

      What’s strange is - she had her own story of immigration and suffering she could have sang about. Like how her family went from Santamaria to Saint Marie. She could have been a voice for Italian Americans and the discrimination they faced as well 🤷🏻‍♀️ Also the song that won her the Oscar had nothing to do with Indigenous identity. So weird to throw this strange lie on all your accomplishments.

    • @user-ck2hr5vn8e
      @user-ck2hr5vn8e 6 місяців тому

      Maybe she thought it would cooler to be Native?

    • @Someone-kg8qf
      @Someone-kg8qf 6 місяців тому

      @user-ck2hr5vn8e I wonder if she would have become as famous if she had been honest about her ethnicity? Like Dylan Mulvaney, would he be known if he wasn't pretending to be a 1 yo girl right now? He was just a failed drama student, and then he magically became a girl. Just like Buffy magically became a native woman by saying that is what she is and it got her $$$$$$$.

    • @deemarie5534
      @deemarie5534 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! What's wrong with being Italian? Buffy had enough talent as a musician and was a very beautiful young woman. She could have been proud of that, but she chose to fool us all.

  • @mr.mediocregamer9653
    @mr.mediocregamer9653 6 місяців тому +10

    A question we should be asking is, if First Nation's people are so oppressed, and struggle so hard, why are so many people interested in pretending to be one? Why would you voluntarily try to make your life harder?

    • @fgoindarkg
      @fgoindarkg 6 місяців тому +3

      They can put on and take off that cloak of shame whenever they please.

    • @pohjoinen
      @pohjoinen 6 місяців тому +3

      There are people who enjoy victimhood, and will create stories or bend the truth to make themselves be victims at any opportunity

    • @MrBDezno
      @MrBDezno 6 місяців тому

      I think it is easy for a white person to claim another race. They've been privileged all their lives and to pop into a fake ethnic identity can never take away that privilege.

    • @bernardoreilly7811
      @bernardoreilly7811 6 місяців тому +5

      This might seem weird but there can be a cache to being regarded as an indigenous person. The experience of someone who adopts an indigenous identity is very different from that of genuinely indigenous people. Because the pretend indigenous person has grown up within the dominant culture they have a better education than most truly indigenous people. This means that they know how to work the system. It also means that they can adopt the indigenous identity while avoiding the the disadvantages that come with being an indigenous person. There is a big difference between being seen as an indigenous person and being an indigenous person. The first is an elaborate performance. The second is a reality. A genuinely indigenous person with the same level of talent as Buffy would have been unlikely to achieve the same level of success as Buffy because she would have lacked the "cultural capital" needed to navigate the music industry. Cultural capital is the knowledge of the dominant culture that comes from being raised within it. The secret of Buffy's success was that she a typical middle class suburban white girl. With that background she could do things that no indigenous person could achieve.

    • @frakismaximus3052
      @frakismaximus3052 6 місяців тому +1

      That's a good point.

  • @Dave183
    @Dave183 6 місяців тому +1

    I was adopted as an adult into a Maori clan, along with others. No inherited rights. I lived with this identity, because i needed it. As a result I sought to explore who i really was- successfully. A wannabe, rather than a pretendian.

  • @genuinedelusionsmusic
    @genuinedelusionsmusic 6 місяців тому +1

    Some Indians say that she has been welcomed to the tribe, so regardless of her true ethnicity she is still indian in spirit. I can understand that sentiment, and I agree she brought indians and especially indigenous canadians to the spotlight and I believe she did many good things in support of them. But she could have supported real indigenous people while being honest about her own background. That is upsetting. At the end of the day, she used an identity selfishly to get ahead when she could have given a true indigenous artist the oppurtunity to succeed.

  • @l-train7876
    @l-train7876 6 місяців тому +216

    Im always fascinated with the people that carry on big elaborate lies. Like pretending to be a different ethnicity or pretending to have cancer. So wild🍿.

    • @julietfischer5056
      @julietfischer5056 6 місяців тому +20

      Their need to be special is a full-blown psychological problem. We're way past kids claiming to be secret extraterrestrials or royalty or ninja or whatever.

    • @lv7603
      @lv7603 6 місяців тому +29

      It has to involve some form of narcissism I couldn’t imagine keeping a lie going for that long seems exhausting.

    • @julietfischer5056
      @julietfischer5056 6 місяців тому +7

      @@lv7603- Eventually, if enough people accept it, momentum maintains the illusion. That can also be the most dangerous time, as the perpetrator can become overconfident or careless and let something slip.

    • @pixel9548
      @pixel9548 6 місяців тому +3

      Pretending to be single with no kids...

    • @25Soupy
      @25Soupy 6 місяців тому +13

      Elizabeth Warren must be so proud of her.

  • @VertigoMusicMagazine
    @VertigoMusicMagazine 6 місяців тому +1001

    My mother went to school with Buffy in Wakefield, MA and my mother told me for fifty years that Buffy was a fraud. I believe Buffy has borderline personality disorder.

    • @marinalina6348
      @marinalina6348 6 місяців тому +59

      So her look is just hair dye, make up, plastic surgery and her cadence is put on??

    • @VertigoMusicMagazine
      @VertigoMusicMagazine 6 місяців тому +193

      @@marinalina6348 she uses tanning products and she actually looks very Italian. My mother went to school with her. Buffy was just a white girl, lighter hair. For fifty years my mother told me Buffy was a fraud. And she hurt her family deeply.

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 6 місяців тому +54

      Not to mention, imagine how carefully she tanned her skin. Probably very slowly, and meticulously by the minute to give the most natural-looking dark skin. I'm Hispanic from Southern, NM, but I lived on the edge of the Mescalero Apache reservation, so I went to grade school there and everything. I still play piano for mass at a huge stone cathedral there. Not saying that ever tried to integrate with the Apaches (in a way i've ALWAYS been part of the community), just saying that Buffy is more than anything, lying to _herself._ In a disturbing, let liberating way, the only the real thing about her is her stunning art. Which is ironic because all art is fantasy. Even music is an emotion that comes from nothing (except maybe from the Spirit World itself.). "Creating" an identity is something we ALL do every time we wake up and dress ourselves and put on best smile. We all unconsciously know that the soul must be tempered, lest Buffy-Sainte Marie sue you for "deeply" hurting her as a child, just as she threatened her white blood-brother. // I appreciate your comment, Mrs. Marianalina. - _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_

    • @fj2201
      @fj2201 6 місяців тому +21

      @@VertigoMusicMagazine I've tried looking for photos of her parents online in order to see if there were any resemblances....especially after hearing that her brother and niece were blonde or lighter in general tone--- just to see if there was any truth to the notion that she might have actually been a secret outside child on the "native" side. It's easy enough to lie on a birth certificate about an affair baby; and if the sister is related to Buffy's son, the test might have just picked up on the mother's side and not the Italian father. Don't know, but I couldn't find photos. Does your mother know if she actually resembled her parents or other relatives?

    • @askauntyd9884
      @askauntyd9884 6 місяців тому +29

      Also she looks like her sisters twin except her sister has shoulder length blond hair in the 5th estate doco too. Go check it out & let us know if u think the same or...?

  • @JudyBarrette
    @JudyBarrette 6 місяців тому +2

    You know, I am shocked but not surprised. I am from Northern Ontario and have gone to school, worked and lived with people of our First Nation around me, and they were and are mostly Cree. Some are artists, but there careers were not endorsed has hers was. They were and are talented as well. I remember being confused with Buffy. It was like she was a different kind of Cree. I simply thought that Cree from Saskatchewan could be very different. Something was not adding up. Confusing for sure. Now I know why. Still I like to think that there is more to her story. I simply cannot imagine anyone living with such a lie.

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 6 місяців тому +1

      An interviewer once asked BSM to speak in Cree because Buffy had claimed it was her first language. She said she would not because it hurt her too much and that she would communicate in Cree only with "her people". We now learn that she does not know the language at all. But even at the time of the interview, I wondered how Cree could be her first language when she also, in the same interview, said she was adopted at birth. Something did not add up.

    • @JudyBarrette
      @JudyBarrette 6 місяців тому

      @@marymckenna6482 Thanks for your reply. I cannot wrap my brain around this story. I like to think she is just misunderstood. But details are showing the opposite.

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 6 місяців тому

      Hi Judy- yes, the details are all supporting the idea that she knowingly lied for decades. Hard to understand. I do not wish her any ill, but deliberate deceit at the expense of her own family is just awful.@@JudyBarrette

  • @TedLylis
    @TedLylis 4 місяці тому +2

    I worked with a guy who became a good long term friend who went to school with her, and he had a lot of stuff that proved that her claims of native ancestry are a huge bunch of BS. Every time she was out making claims we would laugh ourselves silly since he knew her family (father Italian, mother English) and we couldn't believe she was getting away with her claims, and it is really amazing that she's gotten away with her lies and exaggerations for this long. Shameful.

  • @59marguerite
    @59marguerite 6 місяців тому +399

    I live in Canada where this story has barely ruffled feathers. Most of my friends are defending her for her record of standing up for indigenous peoples. For me, a lie is a lie from which no real good comes.

    • @sharonlatour6230
      @sharonlatour6230 6 місяців тому +35

      a lie, is a lie, no matter what the intention is.

    • @wiredhope
      @wiredhope 6 місяців тому +32

      imo as a native I think it's worse she spoke on our issues in redface no less, like?? I'd under if she said she supported it without lying and claiming to be native and speak on our issues that she never lived. There's no real way to defend her tbh..

    • @willemvanriet7160
      @willemvanriet7160 6 місяців тому +29

      Off course it’s ruffling feathers. I’m from Vancouver and many ppl are talking and upset about it

    • @lorimorden6343
      @lorimorden6343 6 місяців тому +26

      It’s heartbreaking. I grew up thinking she was brave & beautiful & talented. She may be all those things but she’s also a liar. Take the awards away from her the way she took them away from real indigenous artists.

    • @georgekustner3440
      @georgekustner3440 6 місяців тому +4

      This is the first time I hear about this. Nobody talks about this here in Canada. I am shocked and surprised. Ah! Human nature. Imitation is the purest form of flattery.

  • @markhamilton8765
    @markhamilton8765 6 місяців тому +191

    I have been keeping a spreadsheet of notable Canadian music artists…it’s actually quite an impressive list! Buffy, you are now OFF the list. What irks me most about this sad case is all of my hard earned Canadian tax dollars that have been used over the decades to prop up this horrible woman. Good on the CBC for finally outing Buffy Saint Marie.

    • @frakismaximus3052
      @frakismaximus3052 6 місяців тому +43

      She also has the Order of Canada and she's not even Canadian lol

    • @jecarlin
      @jecarlin 6 місяців тому +13

      @@frakismaximus3052 Canada: she doesn't even go there.

    • @gbinman
      @gbinman 6 місяців тому +3

      How many of the notable Canadian music artists have impeccable life stories? I would guess, very few.

    • @coralieelliott2076
      @coralieelliott2076 6 місяців тому

      but at least they are Canadian--and yes we do have many notable music artists--Ever heard of Leonard Cohen or David Foster, Shania Twain, Drake ,, Celine Dion, Justin Bieber, the Poppy Family, etc, etc. @@gbinman

    • @jecarlin
      @jecarlin 6 місяців тому +21

      @@gbinman This is a pretty big whopper.

  • @guccideltaco
    @guccideltaco 6 місяців тому +3

    The phenomenon of north Americans claiming to be native is interesting to me. Apparently the myth gets passed down through generations, and only now in the age of DNA testing is it being disproven. I've seen numerous video titles along the lines of "why your DNA test doesn't show your Native American ancestry". My own mother's family is like this. I grew up believing we were part Cherokee, but then couldn't find any of my ancestors' names on the Dawes Rolls. My mother kept insisting, because that's what SHE had been told all her life. Then when I did a DNA test...you guessed it; not a DROP of Native American in there. I told my mom, but she still holds onto the family lore. I really don't know why that is.

  • @augenbutter
    @augenbutter 6 місяців тому +2

    This comes as a huge bombshell. I never questioned her identity. Still, she brought much attention to North American First Nations and also inspired many of their youths, with her music. Where to go from here, is not for me to say. It's Buffy's and First Nation's task.

  • @daynasafranek7807
    @daynasafranek7807 6 місяців тому +243

    I appreciate that at least she wanted good things for indigenous people, but she went around it all the wrong way. There’s nothing wrong about caring and wanting to “belong” with a group, but if she’s lying, it’s just so wrong and deceitful.

    • @yehmen29
      @yehmen29 6 місяців тому +11

      She reminds me a bit of Archie Grey Owl, who you could argue had 'gone native', a bit like Kevin Costner's character in Dances with Wolves or Tom Berenger and Barbara Hershey's characters in Last of the Dogmen. The late Sir Richard Attenborough made a good movie about Archie Grey Owl, with Pierce Brosnan in the title role. Sir Richard Attenborough and Sir David Attenborough were taken by their father to London to attend a conference by Archie Grey Owl, when they were children. He was touring Europe and speaking about indigenous people and conservation of wildlife and nature. That spurred Sir David Attenborough's interest in conservation, and led to his future career.

    • @elizabethshollenberger9412
      @elizabethshollenberger9412 6 місяців тому +22

      I always thought her skin looked too brownish red. Looked unnatural because its makeup. Now it's clear...she was darkening her skin. Wow.

    • @carinaekstrom1
      @carinaekstrom1 6 місяців тому +15

      She could have done a whole lot for indigenous people without claiming to actually being one by birth. I don't think it would have made a big difference for her, financially. But there was probably more to it, or maybe she just didn't want to take that chance.

    • @cherylmillard2067
      @cherylmillard2067 6 місяців тому

      You had me worried for a minute, I thought Sir David Attenborough had died, two different men but both brilliant. @@yehmen29

    • @dayleblair3494
      @dayleblair3494 6 місяців тому +7

      I don't think she did it on purpose but if she did she made the world very much aware of the native situations!! She is loved no matter what!!! All should be thankful for her reasons whether she is indigenous or not!!!

  • @derek04151
    @derek04151 6 місяців тому +36

    She's played this game for so long, how does she suddenly entertain the truth now ?
    She's irrevocably committed to the lie.

    • @JM-jy7yj
      @JM-jy7yj 6 місяців тому

      She can do this because she was enabled by regular every day Canadians who REFUSE to read and investigate. It is a national disease.....

    • @marinalina6348
      @marinalina6348 6 місяців тому

      Or is she genuinely believing it due to mental illness?

  • @josephinekush5056
    @josephinekush5056 5 місяців тому +2

    A fact overlooked by all. In February 1941, when Bluffy was born, Canada as a Dominion of the British Empire & Commonwealth, was at war with Germany & had been since September 1939, while the United States was still neutral nation. Travel across the International border between the two countries was severely restricted & heavily guarded. Americans were not allowed the freedom of traveling into Canada, tourism was not happening & Canadian children, indigenous or otherwise, were not being exported to Massachusetts. Bluffy, an American untutored in basic Canadian history, shoots herself in the foot with her ignorance.

  • @cjpenning
    @cjpenning 5 місяців тому +11

    How does she get away with this for 60 years? The media should be ashamed of themselves.

    • @Julia-nl3gq
      @Julia-nl3gq 5 місяців тому

      The only person who should be ashamed of themselves is her. Don't blame the media for her narciccistic lies and insanity.

    • @desertari
      @desertari 4 місяці тому

      She was born highly talented and that's how she "got away with it".

    • @groundcontrol436385
      @groundcontrol436385 4 місяці тому

      @@desertari She's not that talented. She was a terrible singer. And a terrible dancer.

    • @desertari
      @desertari 4 місяці тому

      You should be ashamed- just enjoy the music if you can hear from 'way up there on your moral highhorse.

    • @desertari
      @desertari 4 місяці тому

      As I said, go door-to-door and explain that to her millions of fans. Have a nice day! Or year ! or decade !@@groundcontrol436385

  • @mothmanifest
    @mothmanifest 6 місяців тому +56

    This is way more common than you may think. When I was a teenager my friend group was infiltrated by a minor attracted adult male of Mexican ancestry who lied about being Native American. He wore feathers in his hair, wore turn of the century cowboy era clothing, had a handmade bow and arrows on his back and a knife tied to his thigh with leather. He was really interesting to us kids, he would read to us and tell us wild stories. He became the “boyfriend” of one of us girls and started living with her because he was homeless obviously. During that time he would peep on some of us when we were using the bathroom or showering. He would try to play games with our heads about who he loved the most. He would flip from one Native American tribe to another depending on who he was talking to. He would make out with some of us and tell us he loved us. Eventually we started sharing our experiences with him with each other and figuring out that this wise and omnipotent character was just a fraud. This mainly came out when he took one of us to visit his birth mother and when asked she said “I’m Mexican, his father was Mexican and HE is Mexican.” There is nothing wrong with this of course only the fact that he made up these wild claims in order to seduce a bunch of innocent girls. I know that once he was unmasked he ended up leaving and joining the military and we never heard from him again. He should have went to jail.

    • @tessmolloy2388
      @tessmolloy2388 6 місяців тому +22

      And by you referring to this guy as “ minor attracted” you’re implying that that’s okay, when in fact, it’s illegal. You and your friends were being groomed as well, and by the grace of God nothing worse happened to you.

    • @BlueIvysAssistant
      @BlueIvysAssistant 6 місяців тому +25

      "Minor attracted." That's a funny way to say pedophile.

    • @fyouman7
      @fyouman7 6 місяців тому +13

      Mexicans are native to America though.

    • @emilyvee4922
      @emilyvee4922 6 місяців тому +9

      Mexicans are Native American. White people made borders. If he looked native, he probably was. BUT… theres a preference North American natives from USA.

    • @AP-hl8rg
      @AP-hl8rg 6 місяців тому +5

      In Mexico, there are over 60 surviving Indigenous languages meaning there are Indigenous Mexicans. Your story sounds correct but its possible they were. In USA, many Latin Indigenous communities identify with the nationality.

  • @Coffeedrinker291
    @Coffeedrinker291 6 місяців тому +370

    The saddest thing about this is not that she’s claiming to be part of a different race, but that she is denying her parents and all her family.

    • @Coffeedrinker291
      @Coffeedrinker291 6 місяців тому +11

      I want to add though that the birth certificate isn’t that important though. When my mother remarried and her new husband adopted us, even though my father was alive, since he gave up his rights, our birth certificates were changed and it literally says on them that my mother’s second husband is our father, even though we didn’t meet him until we were four years old. (I’m a twin that’s why I’m saying we).

    • @mayloo2137
      @mayloo2137 6 місяців тому +38

      ​@@Coffeedrinker291She wasn't adopted. Stop making excuses for her.

    • @Coffeedrinker291
      @Coffeedrinker291 6 місяців тому +14

      @@mayloo2137 I’m not. I was just saying that you can’t always believe a birth certificate, which is nuts…

    • @mayloo2137
      @mayloo2137 6 місяців тому +21

      @Coffeedrinker291 in this case, the birth certificate doesn't lie. Her son's dna matched that of BSM's sister. So no indigenous blood from his maternal side of the family.

    • @Chancy3783
      @Chancy3783 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Coffeedrinker291 yes but your dad gave up his legal rights to you. My bio mother did the same to me, when my adopted mother and biological dad adopted me.

  • @mrsvle
    @mrsvle 6 місяців тому +3

    As a white girl, your basic hippie chick folk singer, she is rather unremarkable, a mediocre talent at best. But slap an indigenous label on her, along with some beads and feathers, and suddenly she’s amazing, courageous, brave, an inspiration, etc. what’s up with that ?

  • @williamogilvie6909
    @williamogilvie6909 5 місяців тому +1

    I have always liked Buffy and her music. This is the first I have learned about Buffy being a pretender and faking her native heritage.. Your arguments make sense. I have met plenty of people who pretended to be what they weren't. None could hold a candle to Buffy in that regard. She played it well and hopefully hasn't made too many enemies in the First Nations communities.

  • @texasrefugee7888
    @texasrefugee7888 6 місяців тому +31

    😂 1972 when I was in college I read in the student newspaper an article an African-American student wrote. His article pointed out how Americans love to tell people they are Native American. But nobody claims to be part black.😅

    • @sarahg1583
      @sarahg1583 6 місяців тому +2

      My husband is Native American & Black. As with the rest of his family, he's been enrolled in the tribe since birth and carries a tribal card. He identifies as Native, but does not deny his Black heritage. What's odd is how others have identified him. i.e "You're not Black, right?"
      We also know someone from the same tribe (who is also Black), who denies both. He told everyone in high school he was "Italian". ;)

    • @jecarlin
      @jecarlin 6 місяців тому +8

      I mean, we did have Rachel Dolezal.

    • @texasrefugee7888
      @texasrefugee7888 6 місяців тому +1

      @jecarlin yeah M&M doesn't claim to be, but imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. People point out that Elvis was the 1st white man to sing black music. The Beatles did, too. Rolling stones used killer black female backup singers. Like Gimme Shelter❤️. Bob Dylan, too.

    • @sookie4195
      @sookie4195 6 місяців тому

      In the 1950s my father told me that we were part Native American. You see nobody wanted to be an Indian back then and they hid it. Now everybody wants to be an Indian.

    • @frakismaximus3052
      @frakismaximus3052 6 місяців тому

      Because Native Americans are comparatively rare.

  • @user-wu1bu7ss1s
    @user-wu1bu7ss1s 6 місяців тому +25

    I am Canadian and the most glaring reasons to me that Buffy said she was Indian is for the cash and perks given to native peoples..... then and now.... just like the snake oil salesman at the country fair... a native pic on the label would ensure a sale...

    • @shilowaters6082
      @shilowaters6082 6 місяців тому +1

      It's 2023 why should natives get cash and perks above anyone else?

    • @timhazeltine3256
      @timhazeltine3256 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@shilowaters6082Because they were dispossessed of their land and livelihoods for centuries. It's a modest and small recompense.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 6 місяців тому

      so you're against immigration? When the europeans immigrated here the Natives were dispossessed. Were' the English people dispossessed when people immigrated there? What about Canada? are we dispossessed now that a million people from the religion of peace come here every year?@@timhazeltine3256
      were the native people living in canada taken away fort their land? Did this all happen in their lifetimes?
      Are you capable of independent thought or are you a government bot?
      An NPC?

    • @Whitsundial
      @Whitsundial 6 місяців тому

      Because we displaced them from their traditional land and never have given them a share of what the Canadian Government gets for the resource extraction of their land, wood, ore, oil, water, fish. Yes, their land. They are to be recognized alongside English and French historical figures in history as founding partners of Canada.

  • @caroledrury1411
    @caroledrury1411 6 місяців тому +7

    Following this recent story and being quite taken aback. I was such a fan of hers when I was young for the reasons that she portrayed. I like your ending comment that she could be ahead of her time in re-creating this identity. However it Was often practiced In history, the search for superimposed identity. No one seems to mention that she was a creative songwriter. I’m glad you mentioned her as a narcissist because in the end it is a psychological fault despite her talent. Thank you for your commentary

    • @Ralph-id3xg
      @Ralph-id3xg 5 місяців тому

      They do mention in the Fith estate documentary that she is a talented musician and songwriter. The lady with the curly hair says it.

  • @magicovento
    @magicovento 6 місяців тому +3

    Damn. Im so upseted. I loved her music so much. Unfortunally there are a lack of indigenous artists. I am a latino girl who loves folk and indigenous music, and i was really happy to see such a talented artist like Buffy... but unfortunally, she is not what she claimed to be..

  • @davejones6130
    @davejones6130 6 місяців тому +1420

    As a Canadian I am so appalled by this woman’s behaviour I’ve written to the Governor Generals office to request they immediately strip her of her Order of Canada awarded in 1997 …for reasons of gross misconduct , family / parental abuse and selfishly impersonating a Canadian Aboriginal for personal gain.

    • @STR82DVD
      @STR82DVD 6 місяців тому +167

      Thank you. I'm also writing to the Governor General. Bluffy must be stripped of all honours and awards.

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 6 місяців тому +64

      I have a question for you. Have you EVER seen a caucasian woman who looked like her in skin tone, and bone structure?

    • @sierravista9013
      @sierravista9013 6 місяців тому +174

      @@brockreynolds870 she is pert Italian if Sicilian she could look indigenous, because of the Arabs, and Romans who invaded Sicily. One of my cousins was often mistaken,
      And one of my brothers looks like an Arab

    • @haloeffect67
      @haloeffect67 6 місяців тому +136

      ​@@brockreynolds870She's half Italian. Her paternal side is from the southern region of Italy where some people have darker skin tones.

    • @brockreynolds870
      @brockreynolds870 6 місяців тому +25

      @@sierravista9013 If those documentary claims are true, she is only 1/4 sicilian. No WAY someone who is only 1/4 would look the way she does.

  • @Aaron-kj8dv
    @Aaron-kj8dv 6 місяців тому +141

    One interesting thing about these liars is that their lies start way before the internet existed and gained popularity so it really was essentially impossible to check these things. I often wonder if they have moments of panic that theyll be found out or if theyre so deep into the lie now they believe it too.

    • @freddieward5860
      @freddieward5860 6 місяців тому +4

      Come to Los Angeles Mexico if you need verification...

    • @bobbyologun1517
      @bobbyologun1517 6 місяців тому +8

      I founder of the Nation Of Islam is the original ethinicity jumping conman. however there are still a remarkable number of legal documents (espicially from the lapd) that exposed his grift in the 1920/30s. Wallace Ford Muhammad!

    • @returnofthereasoner3200
      @returnofthereasoner3200 6 місяців тому +4

      @@bobbyologun1517Wallace Fard Muhammad

    • @citygirlingraham
      @citygirlingraham 6 місяців тому +3

      The truth will eventually come out.

    • @janemorrow8802
      @janemorrow8802 6 місяців тому +3

      Truth does come out. I find it interesting to read that she won't take a DNA test.

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g 6 місяців тому +1

    If claiming indigenous status when you're not provides certain benefits, there's a serious issue with our society. While Buffy Sainte-Marie might be in the wrong for doing it, our society is equally at fault for distributing benefits based on ethnicity.

    • @kait5351
      @kait5351 6 місяців тому

      Not everyone enjoys white privilege and advantages. Don't worry, equality for all won't mean less for you.

  • @foggyozarkg7396
    @foggyozarkg7396 6 місяців тому +2

    haters gonna hate.. she did A LOT of good for this world w/her music and her worthy causes. she looks more indiginous than most... almost Alaskan. so NATIVE on the INSIDE that it SHOWN on the outsideFTW and what people think! i dont care about the color of your skin

    • @marymckenna6482
      @marymckenna6482 5 місяців тому

      your whole post was about appearance! She LIED about her own family and her community- that cannot be right. She appropriated the pain of the indigenolus community and said it happened to her when it did not. She used their pain to advance her career and took awards and money for doing so. If Buffy did not care about the color of her skin, why did she fake color it with tanning and make-up?

  • @jabbermocky4520
    @jabbermocky4520 6 місяців тому +32

    I wish Robbie Robertson was still alive. He'd have an interesting perspective on Sainte-Marie, for sure. He was her contemporary in the music biz. He was also tightly integrated into the Indigenous Canadian community because of his mother's genetic heritage. While Robertson played down his Indigenous heritage until later in his career, Sainte-Marie made it her own bold trademark. That's what upsets Indigenous people most, I think, because being Indigenous was a serious hardship for so very long and remains that way. Nobody wanted to brag about it. Buffy did. Interesting, eh?

    • @tracevicente
      @tracevicente 6 місяців тому +6

      You are right about this. I grew up with Richard Manuel’s nephews in SW Ontario and the Band’s extended family was super close back in the day. Not a word. Not one about Robbie’s heritage. It was solely about the music.

    • @katiejai9848
      @katiejai9848 6 місяців тому +1

      Thats because she never had to live it!! she just took the accolades and attention--

  • @46metube
    @46metube 6 місяців тому +287

    Imagine living your entire life as a lie. Human behaviour is indeed mysterious & sad.

    • @oftin_wong
      @oftin_wong 6 місяців тому

      40% of Americans believe in a Christian afterlife of one type or another, you could look at that through the same lense or some Islamic country with an even higher rate of general delusion, Africans who believe in witches and magic
      Humans are fantastic at following delusions for a lifetime

    • @ahkulthood9999
      @ahkulthood9999 6 місяців тому +7

      It happens more than you can imagine. You would not even believe if I told you.

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 6 місяців тому

      funny how race is not as big as a deal as sex/gender but we allow people to say they are whatever gender they want. Race being not as big of a deal should be not even a controversy. everyone shocked at this that is a leftist, is a total hypocrite that doesn't do their own thinking.

    • @raedawn7991
      @raedawn7991 6 місяців тому

      😂

    • @kevintse2870
      @kevintse2870 6 місяців тому

      There’s a thing called kayfabe. Also all golden age Hollywood stars had fake backstories.

  • @micah3823
    @micah3823 6 місяців тому +1

    For years many people thought that Charles Bronson was Native American even though he never claimed to be . He was actually a SLAV. His parents were Lithuanian immigrants and he only spoke Russian until he was six years old. Iron Eyes Cody was a pretendian as is Cher. Both are italian. Cher never said she was indigenous until she recorded a video wearing native regalia and the native community protested. Only then she conveniently remembered she was "Cherokee" on her mothers side.....The Cherokee tribe rejected her claim.

    • @skyehorvath9063
      @skyehorvath9063 6 місяців тому

      Cher is Armenian in heritage, is she not? She sang the song Half-Breed, which shocked me in the 70’s when it came out, as I knew that Cher didn’t have a sniff of First Nations blood in her.

    • @micah3823
      @micah3823 6 місяців тому

      @@skyehorvath9063 I thought she was Italian but I might be wrong. either way she is not native!

  • @dianesmith5626
    @dianesmith5626 6 місяців тому +5

    It would interesting to do a DNA test comparing her brother, sister, and herself. If Buffy wasn't faking this whole thing she would agree to a DNA test.

    • @reneedoiron7560
      @reneedoiron7560 6 місяців тому

      So far she has refused.

    • @scottbreseke716
      @scottbreseke716 5 місяців тому

      @@reneedoiron7560 You don't really need to get her consent if you're sneaky.

    • @reneedoiron7560
      @reneedoiron7560 5 місяців тому

      @@scottbreseke716 😆

  • @bobbarron6969
    @bobbarron6969 5 місяців тому +2

    "She was a pioneer in the area of redefining reality". He delivers these lines with an absolutely straight face and they crack me up. Gray Owl, or Archibald Belaney, was a true master of redefining reality as a pretendian.

  • @JonathanDiNamesMusic
    @JonathanDiNamesMusic 6 місяців тому +608

    It's shocking how far she was willing to go to keep up her charade. People are frightening. Keep the great content coming Dr. Grande

    • @rachellandry3116
      @rachellandry3116 6 місяців тому +29

      like every "trans" individual.

    • @Eredeana
      @Eredeana 6 місяців тому +25

      ​@@rachellandry3116 nothing like that, dr. grande recognizes trans people are real unlike this situation

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 6 місяців тому +19

      @@rachellandry3116 I knew trans people in Hollywood in 1968. May West said they were just born in the wrong body.

    • @sr2291
      @sr2291 6 місяців тому +5

      @Eredeana Buffy has issues, and she never totally resolved them. As an adoptee - doing DNA testing has resolved some of mine.

    • @Eredeana
      @Eredeana 6 місяців тому

      ​@@sr2291sure, I'm just defending trans people rn

  • @kafusada1041
    @kafusada1041 6 місяців тому +62

    Lying to kids via Sesame Street is really a new low. She could have studied tribes and simply tried to make them aware of the native cultures, but apparently she needed more notoriety and to take the opportunity from an actual Native.

    • @IARRCSim
      @IARRCSim 6 місяців тому

      @@indeterminateorigin6406 barely anyone will search for a comment you didn't want to copy/paste here. I won't and I don't know anyone who will but just maybe someone might.

    • @IARRCSim
      @IARRCSim 6 місяців тому

      @@indeterminateorigin6406 that makes sense. It seems like a funny way to get more viewers for a kid's show but that could work. Was she controversial back then too? It looks like she went on the show in 1975. Was her indigenous roots doubted by the general public back then too?

    • @Captain_MonsterFart
      @Captain_MonsterFart 6 місяців тому

      Sesame Street had terrific guests. Stevie Wonder performing Superstition is probably the COOLEST thing to ever be shown on TV.
      I remember the Buffy St. Marie appearance really well.@@indeterminateorigin6406

    • @Attmay
      @Attmay 6 місяців тому +1

      They also had Jesse Jackson on the show.
      Not only that, but they also produced *The Electric Company* with Bill Cosby.
      There is also the issue of why David (Northern Calloway) stopped appearing on the show. The producers gave him chance after chance despite his erratic behavior that at one point even required hospitalization and cost him *Follow That Bird* because it got him banned from Canada. But when he proposed marriage to the girl who played Gina (Alison Bartlett) while she was still in high school, that was the line. They fired him and didn’t give him a death episode when he died in 1990 like they did for Mr. Hooper. And Will Lee had been on the blacklist!
      Lest we forget why Kevin “I’m the baby, gotta love me” Clash lost his job.

    • @sicilianotoronto
      @sicilianotoronto 6 місяців тому

      it's called money.

  • @snuffyballparks6501
    @snuffyballparks6501 6 місяців тому

    Iron Eyes Cody (born Espera Oscar de Corti, April 3, 1904 - January 4, 1999) was an American actor of Italian descent who portrayed Native Americans in Hollywood films, famously as Chief Iron Eyes in Bob Hope's The Paleface (1948). He also played a Native American shedding a tear about pollution in one of the country's most well-known television public service announcements from the group Keep America Beautiful. Living in Hollywood, he began to insist, even in his private life, that he was Native American, over time claiming membership in several different tribes. In 1996, Cody's half-sister said that he was of Italian ancestry, but he denied it. After his death, it was revealed that he was of Sicilian parentage, and not Native American at all.

  • @pickles9440
    @pickles9440 6 місяців тому +2

    Narcissists are in our families and all throughout our communities. When they are family it is so much more difficult to detect and deal with, or that is, to see it. But in the community it is easier, listen to your intuition, you will spot it. I met Buffy once, i was not too impressed. She was nice but something was off. But if i liked her music it wouldn’t mean much to me, I’d listen to it. We are beginning to see the repercussions of putting famous people on pedestals. They are artists, what do they really contribute other than a few moments of pleasure. Why do we worship them? That is the real issue?