Buffy Sainte-Marie story brought tears to the eyes of Indigenous musician | Nation to Nation
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Calls for the return of icon Buffy Sainte-Marie's JUNO award continue to ring out - Cree opera musician Rhonda Head shares her thoughts.
A non-Indigenous member of Fort William First Nation discusses customary adoptions and what it means for individuals and communities.
We'll also hear from a residential school survivor and her trip to Rome this Fall who failed to meet the pope to discuss calls to end abuse.
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She blackmailed her brother in 1972 if he ever told anyone about her real identity. Accusations of being a pedophile. What a role model for indigenous people
What a beeitch ey😮😮😮I feel for me..she took my space ❤
That is just evil, there is no nicer word for it.
Lol some natives will do whatever to protect fukked up people lol.
Fraud? Check. Pedophile? Nobody cares desires nobody acts upon. Pederast? Now that's a problem. But I'm curious: where did you hear that from?
@@Paolo8772 you obviously were not paying attention to the program
Not only did she lie about being Native Canadian -- is neither native nor Canadian -- she disowned the people who gave birth to her and raised her and then threatened to spread lies about her brother [that he was a sexual predator] to shut him up. What a vile individual. Who would want to claim her for any reason? This is entirely detrimental to the Native American community in both Canada and the United States. She should be ashamed, recant, apologise and give back whatever she's taken from native people, including awards and honours. It's a terrible situation that happened for no reason except her self-promotion years ago. A story that grew legs and was never set straight at though it was without consequences. The ramifications are enormous and she's lucky not to be prosecuted.
I agree.
Unfortunately, no one imagined the internet exposing this 60 years ago.
@@LuvableAF my thoughts too
No need for further comment, this is well said.
I agree. Identity theft is a crime. She emotionally and financially exploited Canada's indigenous people for profit. She enriched herself with her lies about her identity. And it's a crime. No one is below the law and Buffy Sainte-Marie must be indicted for her crimes of fraud and her crimes of identity theft like everyone else.
If she was born in the States, then the Order of Canada award obviously needs to be returned, as well as all of the indigenous awards.
Absolutely
You don't need to be born in Canada to receive the Order of Canada (you just need to be a Canadian citizen). You can't be a turd to receive it though, so she should probably return it.
@@chosenideahandle something she did not have
The ceremonial adoption by the reserve in Saskatchewan doesn't make her Canadian. So, no Order of Canada. Not even Honorary Member because her life of 'good works' doesn't erase the 60-year fraud she perpetuated on all of us in the US and Canada.
Yes and take the Canadian stamp of her out of circulation.
She was only adopted because they thought she was an indigenous person adopted as a baby
That is not how Indigenous Adoption works.
@@PollencakesHers was a ceremonial adoption, not a legal one. Even then, it doesn't make her indigenous.
@@Pollencakesthat is not how indigenous adoption in general works but that is what happened in her specific situation, she was able to convince this couple that she might be the daughter who was forcibly taken from them by the Canadian govt 20 years before. She manipulated them into accepting her by giving them false hope. She actually tried the same story with 2 different tribes, the Angonquin and the Mi’kmaq, before she was adopted by the Cree
In order for her to be involved in the 60’s scoop, she would have been in her 20’s. So she wouldn’t have been scooped. She’s an out and out liar.
Right. Would they have adopted her if they'd known she was a white woman who built her career on a false Native identity? I don't think so.
She knew who she really was when she pulled her marriage certificate and when she threatened her brother! She should return the awards as well as all the financial benefits she earned as a result
I 100% believe Buffy lied at this point, but I don’t think her marriage certificate proves anything. Whether she believed she was adopted or not, she would have had to use the legal document she had available to her.
Buffy knew who she was from 1944 on as a young child, she was never adopted and raised by her own natural parents and family. Fraud all the way.
She belongs in jail.
Buffy was wonderfully supportive of indigenous peoples, but she could have done that as an Italian-American woman. Tony Hillerman, the white American murder mystery writer, set most of his novels on the Navaho reservation in the southwest, and created strong, insightful, indigenous characters. Hillerman was honoured by the Navajo for his work.
Good point ! And she could have told the Italian- American community, to look for a new person from Italy to represent them, like Galileo,for example. He was an astronomer, who made important discoveries, and never harmed anyone, unlike Columbus !!
@@JulieSevelson-nb9nj Oh wow! I’ve never heard of this! Who did Columbus harm? Was he is a duel or something⁉️
Seriously?!?!?! She was adopted into the piapot 1st nations!!! Her soul, lessons taught to her, her life is absolutely 1st nations! Her blood and skin color is absolutely nothing to do with it.
1st Nations have never accepted Metis either! So disgusting and racist!
@@KahlessTheUnforgettable he enslaved indigenous people and treated them with violence resulting in death and indignity such as parading women naked in public, etc. He didn't discover America, he never set foot on 'American' soil. .
@DONNELLxOKAFOR it happens!!!! Why do native men or women marry white women?? My grandma married a native man amd had all her rights taken away
17:26: That's precisely the problem: "Her truth" is not the same thing as *the* truth.
@cdavidlake
Exactly, when a mentally ill person tells you he is Jesus that’s also his truth but it’s not reality,
I think with Buffy it looks like a very talented person took advantage of the situation to gain fame and money she knew it was a lie it she did it and as the lie grew bigger she convinced herself that by doing going for Aboriginal community somehow makes her lies right
Truth is relative, because time is. That is physics. You are a bigot.
What's it called when a person defends their abuser? Beverly abused trust, misappropriated cultural identity, and stole honours for decades. Why are people defending and excusing her behavior as somehow honorable? It is disgusting behaviour. Only a truly horrible person would undertake such a grand scam. Recgnize it for what it is, admit you were duped, and stop enabling her.
Stockholm Syndrome
...whose Beverly?
Her lol Beverly Santamaria (Buffy Sainte Marie)@@dunweyweydum
They don’t want to let go of all these awards and achievements she got for being a pretendian.😂😂😂 she really was their role model.
I like you are calling her Beverly I would also accept Bluffy.
If Buffy has any honor, she shouldn't even have to be asked to return all the awards and accolades she's received. She should do it voluntarily, as it is not only the honorable thing to do, but morally it is the right thing to do.
Perfectly said!
The idea of burring in hell hasn't occured to her, or white worshipping fans?
@@davemcd9077 Yeah, but she dishonored her own family by claiming that she was adopted, saying that she didn't know who her true parents were, etc... I feel bad for her mother and father, who must have been hurt that she did not acknowledge her true lineage.
How hateful as if she has to return anything she earned that. It’s hers your jealousy seems far fetched and childish. Wow
If you have any honour you'd stop pushing blood quantum and being a hateful bigot
Buffy needs to come clean and apologize. She created a false persona and milked it to the hilt. We all know the truth now. Very sad.
you need to come clean and admit you don't know what Huŋkálowaŋpi is
Grow up@@Pollencakes
Karma has no time limit and will catch up with her . She fooled us for 60 years
@@Pollencakes That’s a Star Wars®️ character, right⁉️
Worse than that she's doubling down on her lies to cover lies, dreadful.
She lied to the Piapot people to gain their trust, not cool
Buffy can end this by doing a DNA test. She lied about being from Saskatchewan or even Canadian. What is most shocking to me is how she blackmailed her own brother when he told everyone she is white and Italian. She said she was going to tell everyone he molested her as a child. Her brother did tell their parents that the truth will come out one day. The poor man died with that bogus threat against him. She did hurt the Indigenous community, taking away the fame and everything that goes with it from a real Indigenous artist. I would like to see all awards returned.
She WON'T- that would require sentient humility and shes DONE explaining HERSELF. It would be hazardous to talk more about identity. BUT there's 30+ interviews with literally 50 inconsistent versions of the most basic facts.. the shifting stories are better proof than even documentation that she will claim is fake.. She is already playing the victim yet AGAIN, people like this actually believe their own BS and even the envelope (with the threat of calling her brother a predator if he ever wrote publicly again) may have BSM DNA on it, but more interesting is if her son AND the sister have the same grandparents she's white. All THAT aside shes 82 and I dont wamt her to fall into despair THANK God so many hardcore fans will stand by here. Icons will always have fans even when they fall. Ok I'm done!! Hahaha music lives on...
She does look Italian lol
No she cannot and suggesting that we all take DNA tests is just you wanting to line us up for the numbers they are gonna tattoo on us Wasi'chu. Blood quantum is a colonial construct. Holding an abuser accountable is not blackmail to non abusers.
I'm aboriginal and growing up people thought I was Italian 😂 so really can't go by that.
All you sad pathetic people. Judge her by her work. She is an elder who ought to be supported and respected. Shame
She lied. End of discussion. She needs to return all awards and honours and make a public apology. That is the minimum requirement in my mind.
I believe she is even on a Canadian stamp too
Her costumes and performances remind me of Elvis Presley impersonations.
Talk about trying to "look the part"!
Milli Vanilli gave back their award for not singing! Buffy should do the same thing and give it to the true Indigenous artist.
Bluffy Fauxcahontas of the Wah'Nabe Tribe 😂
If she has a shred of moral fibre left, she should return her awards before they are taken from her.
But expecting this from someone who threatened her own brother with horrible lies is asking too much.
this guy is honest
he doesn't fake his background
buffy lied
Good point. He was not adopted because of false representations of his background. Very different.
He didnt unpack it but his mom likely married a First Nations man from the community when he was a kid. No way otherwise would a white kid be allowed to otherwise be adopted into an FN family. Shania Twain same thing. Doesn't make either of them Indigenous.
Also, Beverly (aka Buffy) has a constantly changing childhood story: her mother died when she was born, oh, wait, her mother gave her up; Beverly doesn’t know when she was born, oh, no her birthday is in February. You will not get a straight answer from her. She’s lied so so much for so long, I don’t see her admitting to her lies.
I don’t have a right to weigh in on this as a white settler, but it strikes me that this was not just one big lie. It was a series, a lifetime of accumulated overt lies and choices. Every time she accepted an award, particularly a Juno, she had to prove that she was indigenous to be eligible for that award. That is not a passive act on her part. It’s a deliberate continued act of deception. My heart goes out to all indigenous people who are hurting and struggling to process this deep betrayal.
Most people look more like white settlers than First Nations people. If they never told anybody, we wouldn't know their origin.
Yes you have the right to your opinion everyone does.
Uh, she didn’t have to prove anything. The Juno Awards swallowed her lies hook, line and sinker.
Yes. Rescind the Juno award. Absolutely
All Canadian music awards, accolades from Canada, take her Canadian stamp out of circulation and strip her order of Canada.
She confiscated awards that should have gone to Indigenous Musicians...This is really really awful...How dare she think up a scheme like that
And carry it through her entire musical career...This,coming to light brings us into a Dark Night....
Nobody calling her on it for 62 years.
Buffy may want to feel a part of the Indigenous people and she may be “adopted”, so to speak, by the Piapot indigenous family, but that doesn’t make her ancestry to be indigenous… just like when a caucasien family adopts a Black or Asian child…the child is raised in the Caucasian culture but that doesn’t make either that Black or Asian child caucasien with a caucasien ancestry. Buffy should have been transparent and truthful right from the beginning.
Except 'caucasian' is some made up nonsense. I think lying is the issue. The rest is a just racism. My family fought against the genetic focus of humans....
Wow you are very racist. Ethnicity is not race.
I agree with her, I am angry, I love her and was so proud that she was a Cree Indigenous person, advocating for us. But now I feel duped, I feel like my friend has been lying to me for years. This does not feel good, It makes me mad.
This reminds me of the Bill Cosby saga. All those years he'd cultivated a persona of being a lovable guy, everybody's favorite goofy uncle or big brother...and then the truth came out about him decades later. At least Buffy St. Marie won't end up in jail.
Millions of Bill Cosby's fans were disappointed about him as well.
One should NEVER have to tell a untruth about who you are!!
That would be nice! Too bad White Supremacists run the USA and Canada.
🤣 but how do you define who you are? If I was born in Romania, grew up in Canada and now have permanent resident status in Taiwan, so what does that make me? Easy: I was born a Hungarian and I’ll die a Hungarian. Even visited Budapest twice so far! In truth though, the only way to simplify things is to go based on your last name which gives your paternal line ancestry back to the original clan name through all the many branching events that links your last name to the similar sounding ones and back through the ones that sound less and less similar with all the sound changes in the different languages. Like Buffy’s last name Santamaria links her to the Khanty and Mari tribes in Russia (originally East Asia then Bactria then Turkmenistan) from there to Hungary then Italy. Her family seemingly migrated as part of the Hepthalite White Huns=Avars and possibly then with the Lombards.😮
Yes somehow always knows the truth.
The only good thing about this is is that she was caught before she died. She knows that the world is aware of what she has done. The jig is up. It's too bad the brother whom she viciously threatened isn't around to see this. My heart goes out to his daughter.
Buffy grew up in a middle-class Italian family outside of Boston. Look at a photo of her mother - she looks EXACTLY the way Buffy looks now. There is no reason to think that she is not this Italian-American lady's daughter. Not all Italian people look like Northern Europeans. It is a country on the Mediterranean and lots of people are not pale-skinned. I always wanted to give Buffy the benefit of the doubt, perhaps her mother lied about the biological father. But then when you learn the story of how she threatened her older brother who disputed her claims, you realize, this person was living a lie that she would destroy her family to keep going. It is not surprising that she would support indigenous culture, she owes her career to it. Guilt can be a powerful motivator.
THAT IS NOT THE POINT!!! THE POINT IS SHE WAS ADOPTED INTO PIAPOT CREE NATION...
THEY FULLY ACCEPT HER, AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY NATIVE!
HER MORALS, LESSONS OF THE WAY OF LIFE, SHE STANDS WITH 1ST NATIONS!!!
SO MAYBE 1ST NATIONS SHOULD LOOK AT METIS PEOPLE. ARE THEY CONSIDERED PRETINDIAN TOO??????
Who is Ms. Sainte- Marie's real father ? Is there a chance he may have been Indeginous ?
@JulieSevelson-nb9nj I believe both mom and dad were Italian. Not sure.
She's an Italian from Massachusetts and that's it
Crees should sue her for the money she made in their name
I’m from OCN living in Ontario & agree with my cousin from The Pas & feel that a Real Indigenous Person should have won! The person should show their Treaty Status cause we have to renew every 3 years, not adopted by liars.
Your cousin is right ✅️
As an American of Italian heritage I apologize for her as I doubt that faker ever will. She should donate every cent she's
made from her lies to indigenous people on Canada.
Since Buffy is American, she needs to give back her Order of Canada...or, rather, I expect it to be withdrawn. What Buffy has done is so cruel to the people who believed in her. The difference between Damien and Buffy is that he has been honest about his heritage. Thank you for presentin such a well balanced view of these issues; it is really useful.
@@pilotrtLOL😂
YES nobody disagrees she was a gigantic inspiration to our nation, but look what she has done 😢she has betrayed both her nationality and ours.! She must now face the Music 🎵🎶🎵🎶 sadly to say........
She was not even from Canada and she gets the Order Of Canada 🇨🇦 very hurtful to us 😢GET DNA
Sometimes people from outside Canada get that honor. But in her case she lied.
Oh so holding abusers accountable to your nation is betraying your nation? Sounds like maybe your nation has turned from their ways. Not our fault people abuse us and ya'll want to protect abusers over victims.
Buffy changed the world through her music! Betrayal? I was raised on her music and educated about indigenous mistreatment and marginalization, war against...through her music, I taught school in indigenous communities, became a musician, sang her songs to indigenous kids who needed her words to validate, recognize .... I was of Syrian nationality but adopted Buffy Sainte Marie who was always looked on by nonbelievers, as a white girl, not authentic, even way back. She got treated badly, too, by the prejudiced and stupid people of the day...as if it was easy to get famous by being I digenous! she stood her ground, she knew her power, and those of us who loved her then, will still love her now! She changed the world...and her ancestry. Not everything is black and white now that the buffalos gone!
She was a gigantic fraud who used sad and hateful narratives to keep herself relevant. Does anyone realize the degree of damage? She stole awards from others. Some have already passed. Anyone good person feels disgusted by this. She promoted division of our races, of our human family. Can we please stop talking about race? Can we just be people recognized by merit? We would be better off.
DNA test
This.
There not always accurate thou , so multiple tests needed
Her son and her true sister were tested and proved she was born into the Saint Marie family.
@@Katsnacks BSM's sister has already done an autosomal dna test with one of the companies offering these home dna kits. If BSM also did one with the same company, it would absolutely show if the 2 of them are related. Do not fall for the old reports that these tests are not accurate. The ethnicity portion is an evolving science and depends on the reference panel of the company. If NA is in the dna, it'll show. It might not show after several generations but if she's NA, it will show. Relative matching is absolutely accurate.
@@reejan8109and there would be no match with Buffy's younger sister if she was truly adopted. I believe it's been said, her sister's test and Buffy's son's test, shows they are related. These types of tests of family members are often done now when paternity is questioned and the proposed father is deceased. Courts recognize these familial tests. The same is being done on cold cases of unnatural deaths now who can find a perpetrator by partial match to a relative and if the purposed perpetrator is still alive, they can get DNA for proof.
Give it to Kelly Fraser posthumously to honor her memory. Can not stomach that Bluffy won over her,
I mean honestly, Kelly did deserve it but it's not really Buffy's fault the judges were paid off.
Imagine the tears it brought to her parents and grandparents and siblings and other members of her family. To make threats of child abuse so they would not tell the truth that she is white. Actually italian. Unbelievable. What goes around comes around.
Fluffys a bit kooky scarey
Sending love to the many First Nations people affected by the dishonourable BSM story.
NO ONE IS CRYING, WE ARE ANGRY! THE PRETENDIAN PULLED THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES.
Proof that Caucasian lives don't matter!
Yes for 62 years.
She was adopted into the Piepat family largely based upon her lies. These nice people should also recognize how they've been used.
Exactly .
I am a non-Native and non-Canadian and never heard of the artist. I can only say, as an outsider, I am fine with her saying and being accepted into the Cree Nation. However, I believe she should have CLEARLY said, YEARS AGO, I am an American but STAND WITH THE CREE NATION peoples. An ongoing secret…comes out…really! So, beat it to the punch by exposing it and being honest from the start!
What’s the difference between this woman’s story and Lance Armstrong’s winnings???? Get it???
My heart breaks for the people who went without deserved recognition because of BSM's actions. She told a story at a time when fact checking wasn't really a thing. That lie was a seed that grew into a tree so large it casts a shadow over everything now.
Is TERFS feel the same way about Trans "women" this is what happens when everything is relative
Focus on the REAL ISSUE - The issue is that Buffy Sainte-Marie actually LIED about her past and NOT KNOWING HER REAL FAMILY. Being accepted into the community is a good thing. And the work that she has done to raise awareness and hope is HIGHLY COMMENDABLE. BUT the real issue is that she LIED and continued and sustained that lie for decades when she really didn't have to.
She grew up with her real family in the USA
What really set it off is defending the lie by threatening her brother and dad falsely with lies and lawyers... they went to their graves under the threat...that is really crazy and sick..she would cry on stage performing some of her songs in the 60's and 70's...just nasty
Yes that is the issue - the lies- if you just know about her from her public appearences. But for someone like me that loves and listens to all her music all the time, it is more complicated. Her music was still created by her. She never lied about that. And I loved her FOR her music. I could care less about her awards or anyones awards. Many people get award for crapy music. She actually made amazing music. Listen to Men of the Fields. So what am I supposed to do? I should stop loving her music? I already had to stop listening to Roger Waters. But that made sense; his music has a satanic sound to it. Her music is just beautiful, especially when she incorporated Native American chanting into it. To trash that doesn't seem to help anyone. Not me and not Native Americans. So what are we supposed to do? See! It is complicated.
Questions: Should she not have to return all indigenous qualified gifts and grants given by the Canadian taxpayer/government ? Did she commit tax fraud ?
My prayers to you and all First Nations, my heart feels for you.
Excellent reporting and information
What about the irony that in order for an indigenous artist to help others you have to be a white woman pretending to be indigenous
Sad on both sides but her real family 😢was the one who got pushed aside for so long her saying that 😞 she didn't know her birthday or never had a brith mom? Sad about her brother too, damn 😞 she did him dirty, saying that if he brought it up she was going to be hell for him , then spoke on air about the sa ,
In her biography, too.
Honestly ya'll who care about an abuser are the problem. Believe all victims or admit you suck as a person. It's that simple.
@@Pollencakes what are you talking about? Saying that we are taking up for the abuser? So are you saying that it's true that her brother did that? If so that he really did that then no I'm not taking his side but the fact are that she never once said anything about it until he was going to the news to tell the truth about her being a birth sister, and then she comes up with the story of him being a monster of sa, you can see what really happened, she didn't want anyone finding out about her real identity, , you still believe that it happened, ?? Bet I believe that what her brother did was not the truth,she said that to him to keep quiet, and the story didn't really come to light until he was gone,,
Plus she already established herself as a huge liar, fraudulent about her very identity. Definitely casts shade on all of her claims.@@Renee-wy1po "Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"
Greenwich Village era Bob Dylan made up wild origin stories to build his mystery… then he stopped, Buffy didn’t stop
My heart is with indigenous peoples right now. This is another point of hurt to communities that are still fighting and attempting to heal from generations of trauma. I’m so sorry.
Oh please, they’ll get over it. There are deeper wounds. Stop crying over minor things.
@@aquilifergroup someone who has built their entire career off of being indigenous, winning indigenous awards, getting the highest honours in a country for their representation isn’t minor. Rub some brain cells together.
She told Sesame children that she taught the Cree language. How did she learned the Cree language growing up in small town America?
She told many lies to the children on Sesame street. It also appears that the producers of Sesame Street may have known that she was born to a white family in the US as one of them spoke to her brother. She knew because she then consulted lawyers and wrote a letter to her brother threatening to ruin his life if he spoke up about her true identity.
Cree is a very common language with many dialects and vernaculars across turtle island.
Lies over lies, she couldn’t keep her story straight. Like any criminal in any run of the mill police interrogation hate her 🤬 and that disgusting letter to her brother.
in the words of Maya Angelou when someone shows you who they are believe them.
Through the documentary and our knowledge of that letter to her brother we see the person she is. She is not above lying and manipulating.
She should give back all these awards and promote real native artists. This would be the only acceptable outcome.
You mean all the rewards she already dedicated to her Nation? xD
Buffy loved money more than her birth family.
That proves that she was born in the U.S.- the number one value in this country is profit before people 😢
Finally someone interviewed a actual Canadian Cree musician who speaks the truth. BSM should be stripped of all these awards. Absolutely no respect for this Pretendian, cancel her.
I recall when it became fashionable to claim indigenous heritage a Sicilian friend of mine created a Native American version of her birth name and told us all she was adopted. Buffy St. Marie wasn't really original or creative in this respect. It was kind of easy for dark haired Italians to "pass".
My cousins are French Canadians who could also pass.
@yankeecitygirl. Sicilians are not white.
In the name of Truth & Reconciliation. Thank you.
Remember when you are all alone there is spirits who will demand a answer! GOOD LUCK!
Buffy is just passing the torch and willing to die as an idol for the betterment of all. The people who are judging what they do not understand will pay dearly for it.
PBS should also be held accountable knowing that she wasn’t an indigenous woman.
Is Damien missing the point that Buffy wasn’t adopted at all?!
Until she was an adult, which, IMO, is honorary, not an actual adoption.
Her marriage certificate has her birth state as Massachusetts. Did she not think she was lying then? Fantasy, in her own mind about this issue is really whats going on here. Narcissists do not believe that when they lie that its wrong. They make up their own version of reality and many people go along with it because they like them. They can con a lot of people yet feel no guilt at all. This could be the case here.
There are several Canadian Arts Organizations with Websites that display the Biography of a man, stating he is euro/cree/mixed blood, but he isn't and he himself announced this a few years ago, including an apology to Cree Elders. I wish the Arts Organizations would update his Bio.
She's my favorite Italian-American folk artist.
There is no more Buffy st Marie. Beverly needs to return all awards, and admit she is white.
IMHO, there is a muddling of two different subjects here:
1) BSM's apparent lies regarding her ancestry
2) The very real attention to the cause of indigenous people BSM has accomplished
The revelations are stunning and stepping back and reappraising all things BSM is a natural thing to do. But my guess is the tributes to indigenous people BSM promoted will not be diminished. And BSM will withdraw from the public spotlight and live with shame.
Bravo. Well said! The most even handed response to this yet.
She has played dress up her whole life! 😮
I'm white, and holy moly.. am I ever taking racial flak for defending Indigneous people on this one. I didn't believe the Buffy story at first, and was quick to assume there must be some mistake. Then I watched the documentary, saw the photo of her sister, read other articles, watched other interviews, and at this point, unless Buffy will take a DNA test, the story is pretty telling: she is NOT Indigneous. I will always support Indigenous people because I'm personally involved as a woman married to an Indigenous man. I have come to understand their problems, when at first I didn't know much about them. I saw first hand how they are treated, and what sort of lives they lived, and how political things are that prevent them from obtaining what is rightfully theirs. I defend that. It takes listening and learning to do that. Not putting up barriers to prevent hearing the truth.
I don't defend someone who plays dress-up and rolls with it while she acquires fame and fortune while pretending to be native.
And yet, I'm on this side where people are doubting my allegiance because they view it as an Indigneous take-down. This is a bizarre case where people refuse to hear the truth about Buffy, and blindly want to accept her as Indigenous because naturally it's a loss to the community, a bit of the opposite of refusing to listen to Indigenous people when they have something to say and no one will listen. In this case, a white woman has something to say, and the do-gooders won't accept that they were duped, holding dearly onto the belief that she must be Indigenous, not realizing the actual harm that ignorance is doing to actual Indigenous people.
Buffy did some good, paving the way for other artists, so let's support them and at least take what good is left from this and allow Buffy's influence to make way for those that deserve it.
If things are that touchy around you step back and say nothing,Buffy will have to answer for this eventually.
@binoculord you think ?.. she went 60 yrs without saying a word...she won't say anything now...her ego won't let let her...she isn't and doesn't think like an Indigenous...you are kind and forgiving people.....she is not..think about the threats she made to her uncle...who does that ?
What in the world⁉️😂 What ‘side’⁉️ what people are ‘doubting your allegiance⁉️’ Furthermore, your ‘allegiance’ to what exactly⁉️ 🤔
Thank you for your kind comment. But I have to disagree with the last part. Buffy didn't pave the way or Do anything For any Body .But her self, Infact, she stepped on. First Nation Peoples heads. To Get Money and Fame or She .Would not Have accepted the awards. When I first her. I Laughed, Cringed and was almost embarrassed I couldn't Stand He High Pitched Fingernails On Chalk board Caterwauling Voice. And Wondered , Where She came from . How the hell. She, Made it. Knowing their were First Nation People That Sang better, were Prettier. Had More Talented Then her. Now ,I realize She made It because She was Driven By Greed. Had a Loud mouth and was Pushy. Because ,Natives are Not Like that. And for the Damage she Did to her family and First Nation people. Buffy Just needs to be forgotten, erased and when she go's, buried in a unmarked grave.
I'm not indigenous but it made me angry and brought tears to my eyes as well, I'm not exactly for all the reasons why. It's kinda like the feeling of being cheated on. The order of Canada should be taken because she's not truly Canadian and the others too.
Easy to fix this . Get Buffy St Marie to take a DNA test !
She refuses..
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻absolutely! We have a hard enough time trying to claim our space in the world let alone a non aboriginal person butting in and having the Gaul to stand there and claim something that rightfully goes to a talented aboriginal who finally had the courage to compete with others!
Absolutely true.
Cree opera singer meets Italian Cree singer. Worlds are colliding.
The women in the Indigenous Women's Collective have HAD to struggle to be recognized because of their Indigenous ancestry but Buffy CHOSE to when she didn't have to because she's white and isn't that a huge reason to give the June's back?
Buffy is not white, she is Indigenous and claimed by a tribe. Blood quantum is a colonialist invention used to destroy solidarity and cause artificial segregation of our people.
I can't believe this, it's devastating, OMG - how can this be, absolutely shocking. She was one of my hero's. It has left her legacy soiled and tarnished. Can this really been true?
Unfortunately, yes. I didn't believe it at first, but then I watched the Fifth Estate documentary, and they had more than enough evidence to soil her legacy. Her story has changed so many times over the years.
She told multiple variations of her life story at different times. Not sure what her motives really were behind all the hurt and betrayal she's left for others to deal with. She reminds me of someone with Histrionic personality disorder and she needs help.
She performed her nations version of Huŋkálowaŋpi and you are racist.
Why did my comment get deleted all i said was i didnt care for her music
I'm all for people identifying however they wish. What I'm not for is they insisting I validate their lies.
Time for her to PAY BACK ALL THE MONEY she stole from Indigenous musicians when she STOLE their awards and money by pretending to be Indigenous and accepting the awards. Shame on you Buffy, your music is in my garbage. You broke my ❤️, you hear me Buffy? You broke my ❤
She is Italian background/American and she should return the awards back like junos and it should go to the proper people. Her name is Beverly Santa Maria
I’m an indigenous Sicilian and Buffy’s music speaks to me and helps keep our tribal memory alive 🇮🇹
@@EMVelez ‼️
“While people want to participate in the ‘culture’, they never want the responsibility and suffering that comes with being black. To put it simply, they want our rhythm but not our blues.” - Wanna Thompson (on Caucasian people Black phishing or posing as Black)
Where did Beverly Jean Santa-Maria suffer for her ‘indigenous’ status! It was all benefit, all rhythm, no blues . . .
I don't think the adoptive family and relation is in question. That is beautiful....It is calling her birth family her 'growing up family' somehow denying her own biological reality.
You can see the hurt in her eyes,that is sad 😭, when buffy was doing her Facebook video in how she trying to explain about it she doesn't have any hurt in her eyes, it was so off sad 😭
Buffy has done so much good for indigenous people around the world.
She also did a lot of bad. That cancels her out. She's a zero.
Mamma Mia, that's a spicy meatball!
I feel betrayal, saddened, and shocked. I love buffys music, she should have been honest in the beginning of her career.
I get it she misrepresented herself and other than her activism , I don't really get the hype about her honestly her singing isn't all that good, she's average at best and that's being, modest, if I would to compare her to one of her contemporaries say Tina Turner she's mediocre and can't hold a candle her.
Non-natives are clueless how indigenous identity theft causes harm in our communities.
It should be spoken of more. If anyone can be indigenous then no one is.
That is the danger people like Buffy present.
Her impersonating a First Nations Canadian as a white American should be broadly condemned from all quarters.
And you might be clueless how much you hurt people reconnecting by believing in blood quantum and ignoring the impact of inter-generational trauma
@@roxyroxii1152 She hasn't caused harm and dedicated all her awards and what not to her nation. Why don't you go out and do community work as stop bitching about other people's achievements you think are unearned just because they don't fit into your box of white supremacy.
Buffy St. Marie heritage has more in common to the girls from Jersey Shore than any indigenous community.
Buffy Sainte-Marie is a narcissist. A narcissist cannot admit mistakes and therefore almost never apologizes and if he does, it is only for strategic reasons; be it that he hopes to gain an advantage from this. When questioned, he spreads constant feelings of guilt and he has enormous manipulative powers. With great sensitivity he exploits the weaknesses of his fellow human beings and gives others the feeling of inadequacy, guilt and a bad conscience. They often stand out because of their arrogance and self-idealization. They cannot tolerate criticism, and failure can plunge them into serious crises. However, narcissistic people have difficulty empathizing with other people and often behave in a condescending manner towards others. Malignant narcissism is a combination of narcissism, aggression, paranoia and antisocial behavior. The term malignancy is used in medicine for malignant diseases. People of this type are confident in their greatness.
Sounds like you are referring to Trudeau lol
Buffy is a she
@@heavenlywanderer I know, but I'm talking about the character of the narcissist.
@@heavenlywanderer Maybe... at least that's the image she's cultivated. Who knows at this point.
OR the victim of a narcissist.
Bottom line it was a strategic business move she made and with the little talent she had she pulled it off laughing all the way to the bank bet retirement in Hawaii is nice
I agree fully with the guest. I’m so full of disgust, and she says she doesn’t owe any apologies.
Thank you Rhonda. Very sad.
Thank you for addressing this story about Buffy. I am left with questions...confusion....sadness.
While the discussion about adoption and what it means is clearly a large and important discussion, i'm confused why there
is so much focus on that , when the main issue about Buffy's story seems the fact she kept changing her story over time.. She said she was adopted by her white family in Mass.. Then she said she was adopted by the indigenous family in Canada.
Then she kept sighting very different tribes / Nations and different details. This seems way beyond a question about
defining what adoption into a tribe means. This seems about the out and out fabrications. The inconsistencies make
that clear.
This whole story is so very, very sad on so many levels and destroys trust when it is already so difficult. I wish she
would speak out in clear truth. But she has dug in so deeply that I wonder . Just so sad about this..
You know, I don't care what her actual ethnic group is. Her songs touch my heart. When I was younger I wanted to be native and I told everyone I was. Wrong, yes but end of the world stuff, no
Well said Rhonda.
HG Tudor’s channel has an excellent profile of Buffy Sainte Marie. Well worth checking out.
People care too much about entertainers.
There are much more important things to care about, like being deprived of subsoil rights, pipelines that shouldn't be constructed, communities that don't still have clean water and so on. Let's get on with our lives.
I get what you're saying but, it's an issue of fraud for monetary gain.
Mama mia!!!! Make a me soma spaghetti a mama Mia!!!!
She'll dump the feathers and bone choker for a chef Boyardee hat. Gotta keep up those stereotypes.
This Buffy thing has gutted me:( I admired and related to her since she appeared on Sesame Street.i too was adopted in Sask.i didn't know I was part Cree until I found my biological family. I find what she has done is abhorrent.
yeah it's bs the act of sacred adoption is a valid and sacred practice of Indigenous people, the issue is the government is attempting to discredit someone who is outspoken about MMIW because they don't wanna search the landfills and uphold the treaties. It's a distraction and smear campaign. Huŋkálowaŋpi is the name of this ceremony in my people's tradition.
Good work. Very informative and nuanced interviews.
Mi'kmaq standing with you all
Lying about being a Native American is one thing. Threatening your brother with a false allegation of sexual abuse as a child is a far different matter. She lied about her life and never mentioned sexual abuse until she faced exposure as a fraud on her new television show in the 1970's. It would surprise no one that such a vile person would do anything to prevent being exposed as a pretendian.
"Yes you, who must leave everything that you cannot control; It begins with your family, but soon it comes round to your soul." -Leonard Cohen
The junos..etc keep records...who ever came in second should get the juno..etc
Her own son has been saying it for yrs it seems. Buffy broke hearts and I don't think she has any honor sadly
I actually agree with the adoption commentary. Age is important. He spoke about truth telling and that should have been at the forefront. “No one wants to be lied to.” “Truth telling is critical.” She needs to do a DNA test. Clear it up, if you ARE Indigenous, do the test.
Canadian government should be ashamed too! Shows how how much they care!
Her lies have only tarnished her reputation. She will still be loved and admired by her adoring fans and that's all she cares about. The heck with the mental health of the indigenous people she has harmed...
She didn't lie, ya'll just don't know how time works and are judgemental bigots.
@@Pollencakes Can you prove that she didn't lie? She said many times she was born in Canada. If that were true, why did she apply for Canadian citizenship in 1980?
@@Pollencakesthe CBC exposé showed irrefutable documentation that she lied. Her sister and her son both took DNA tests that prove Buffy lied about being indigenous and being adopted- her sister’s test shows she is 100% European and Buffy’s son’s test shows he is biologically related to Buffy’s sister, which would be impossible if Buffy was adopted