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Ray Tracing, Frame Generation and 4K Gaming...with NO Graphics Card (ft. Minisforum UM890 Pro)

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  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
  • Playing at high resolutions, using Ray Tracing / Path Tracing, and enabling frame gen are usually features best reserved for high-end PC hardware. But what if you don't have a high-end PC?
    What if you don't even have a graphics card? Today we're putting the 780M to the test once again this time as part of the new Minisforum UM890 Pro.
    The Minisforum UM890 Pro:
    s.minisforum.c...
    0:00 Intro, Specs and Setup
    1:37 1080p Gaming with the Ryzen 8945HS / Radeon 780M iGPU
    2:00 Cyberpunk 2077
    2:18 Spider-Man
    2:35 Fallout 4
    2:53 Counter-Strike 2
    3:05 Starfield
    3:28 GTA 5
    3:37 Elden Ring
    3:55 The Witcher 3
    4:22 Ray Tracing & Path Tracing w/ Integrated Graphics
    7:01 Frame Generation w/ Integrated Graphics
    9:06 2160p (4K) Gameplay Benchmarks w/ Integrated Graphics
    9:14 TES: Oblivion
    9:23 Half-Life 2
    9:53 GTA San Andreas
    10:12 GTA V
    10:35 Fallout 4
    11:27 CS2
    11:42 TES: Skyrim
    12:08 Forza Horizon 4
    12:42 Fortnite
    13:09 Final Words
    Thanks for watching :)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 227

  • @__.jxdi.__
    @__.jxdi.__ Місяць тому +270

    1:54 "Some sacrifices may need to be made"
    *video shows doggo
    Me: huh?😧

    • @phoenixzappa7366
      @phoenixzappa7366 Місяць тому +43

      Korean people gotta eat

    • @QuincyQad
      @QuincyQad Місяць тому +5

      ​@@phoenixzappa7366specifically the ones from the north

    • @Mr.Atari2600
      @Mr.Atari2600 Місяць тому +5

      Commence animal ritual sacrifice to appease the gods!

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +31

      Yeah not the best timing lol

    • @cmja09
      @cmja09 Місяць тому +4

      @@phoenixzappa7366 and Yulin Guangxi Chinese bros, dog meat festival for days

  • @brando3342
    @brando3342 Місяць тому +377

    Sadly, it’s already the case that developers are leaning HEAVILY on frame generation and DLSS/FSR in place of actually optimizing their games 🙁

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +88

      Yeah that’s a shame :(

    • @user-wq9mw2xz3j
      @user-wq9mw2xz3j Місяць тому +8

      Or brute force, as they always have been. Just normal.

    • @Nat-yf6ff
      @Nat-yf6ff Місяць тому +24

      Demanding isn't the same as unoptimized
      Modern rendering techniques are per-pixel effects, that's why you see large gains from using upscaling

    • @PixelatedWolf2077
      @PixelatedWolf2077 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@Nat-yf6ffbut Upscaling is iffy in of itself.

    • @FreemanBgTV
      @FreemanBgTV Місяць тому +12

      This its way I don't play the most of Modern $hit.

  • @CapComa
    @CapComa Місяць тому +123

    Everything on low and RT Ultra..
    That's like drinking all the ketchup, and leaving the fries...

    • @xBINARYGODx
      @xBINARYGODx Місяць тому +19

      Depending on the kind of ketchup and the quality of the fries, that might be warranted sometimes.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +20

      Still pretty tasty if you ask me lol

    • @CapComa
      @CapComa Місяць тому +3

      @@RandomGaminginHD lol STAHPPP!!

    • @GenericPast
      @GenericPast Місяць тому

      Ray tracing PS2 games at native resolution

  • @DanielCardei
    @DanielCardei Місяць тому +14

    1:50 Minisforum: Will give you a PC for the dog

  • @vishensivparsad
    @vishensivparsad Місяць тому +16

    When man said "some sacrifices had to be made" and petted the dog I started feeling uncomfortable

  • @nintendoatarikiller
    @nintendoatarikiller Місяць тому +23

    1:54 Doggo :)
    Your concern about devs using frame gen as a bandaid tool for optimization is so true. AAA devs are going to abuse the heck out of it to meet deadlines, pushing the poop down the poop river for someone else to pick up and clean.

    • @ThePhoenix198
      @ThePhoenix198 Місяць тому +1

      Nice verbal image 🤢

    • @MarginalSC
      @MarginalSC Місяць тому

      Not sure how. Half the time they can’t be bothered to include even that.

    • @RegularNobody
      @RegularNobody Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MarginalSC It is at least in almost every big AAA title, though.
      I wouldn't blame the devs themselves for this kind of thing, though. Those decisions are made by people higher up. Besides, devs themselves, generally speaking, always want to do a good job; I mean, who doesn't? It's management that decides how much time will be assigned to the project. I don't seem to have any good AAA example easily accessible on my mind (I haven't played or paid attention to many of them of late), but you get the picture.

    • @MarginalSC
      @MarginalSC Місяць тому

      @@RegularNobody It’s barely a question of time. Implementing the features is trivial.

    • @RegularNobody
      @RegularNobody Місяць тому

      @@MarginalSC and again, most, if not all, recent AAA releases have upscaling and/or frame gen, specially DLSS and DLFG (DLSS 3) specifically. Was it Alan Wake 2 that didn't even have an option of not using DLSS (or DLAA to be more precise?).
      I have no reason to doubt it is easy to implement. Still, I was talking in general terms; and I do remember reading it does needs a few days (the exact number escapes me, was it a week?) of coding, which isn't irrelevant. Mayber that's the reason sometimes it arrives in a update sometimes.

  • @EpicTyphlosionTV
    @EpicTyphlosionTV Місяць тому +65

    It's amazing to see what stuff like FSR can do on low end machines

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +12

      Yeah a game changer quite literally :)

    • @alexp.8415
      @alexp.8415 Місяць тому +5

      @@RandomGaminginHD Did you ever do a vid on Lossless Scaling with a lower end gpu yet? Maybe like RX 580?

    • @L4ftyOne
      @L4ftyOne Місяць тому +4

      Thats a high end system with a mid end gpu(integrated) lol

    • @L4ftyOne
      @L4ftyOne Місяць тому

      Why, 580 8gig still runs everything on high/med 1080p ​@@alexp.8415

    • @zenlev
      @zenlev Місяць тому

      yep. it truly is insane and a free gift from amd
      (and intel)

  • @marcin7258
    @marcin7258 Місяць тому +22

    I can not wait to see the 16 cu 790m in action versus 12cu in this 780m.

    • @Shahzad12357
      @Shahzad12357 Місяць тому +1

      What???? 790m? What is that? When is it releasing? Who said it is releasing?

    • @janbenes3165
      @janbenes3165 Місяць тому +5

      @@Shahzad12357 Probably meant 890M. It will have 16 CU and will be in some of the Zen5 APUs. By the end of the year there should also be the first PS5 performance level APU, Strix Halo.

    • @natsu78999
      @natsu78999 Місяць тому

      probably 35% performance uplift

    • @chillhour6155
      @chillhour6155 Місяць тому +1

      We're stuck in a limbo of tech companies creating new gimmicks but then also price hike to justify said gimmick, that plus poor optimisation in modern games, you will waiting at least 10 more year's

  • @RX_Opi
    @RX_Opi Місяць тому +25

    Another beautifully put together video, appreciate it Steve!

  • @spacechannelfiver
    @spacechannelfiver Місяць тому +12

    The upcoming Strix Point (especially Halo) APUs from AMD are going to be very interesting; solid gaming performers by the sounds of it.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah can’t wait!

    • @zenlev
      @zenlev Місяць тому

      the 120W tdp makes questionable performance, also the price.. but we'll see

  • @yellowblanka6058
    @yellowblanka6058 Місяць тому +1

    I’m impressed how most modern games manage to maintain their visual identity even on low settings…I’ve been gaming long enough to remember when low settings meant a pixelated, visually indistinct mess. That or a playing in a window 1/4 the size of the screen, lol.

  • @AthanImmortal
    @AthanImmortal Місяць тому +28

    Mate, is there a way to send you a link to a channel that's using your footage? I was watching a specific round up and saw a familiar garden and hand in the background and found the original video.
    The only contact I see is twitter but I can't DM you there and I don't want to publicly call out the channel to avoid brigading.

    • @gamersworld4176
      @gamersworld4176 Місяць тому

      are you talking about budget bin's video ?

    • @AthanImmortal
      @AthanImmortal Місяць тому +1

      @@gamersworld4176 Nope. :/

    • @thrivingentrepreneur
      @thrivingentrepreneur Місяць тому

      if he doesn't reply, then he clearly doesn't care so let it be eh

    • @AthanImmortal
      @AthanImmortal Місяць тому

      @@thrivingentrepreneur yeah that's what I'm thinking, I can see he's replied to others since this was posted. I doubt it's affecting him or his views, I just wanted to give him the option. Never nice when someone is using your work to make their own content.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому +9

      Hey thanks for letting me know. I can usually see where my footage is being used in YT studio so I'll have a look but I usually let it slide to be honest.

  • @Kykof
    @Kykof Місяць тому +1

    These new thumbnails are awesome Steve. They genuinely do add so much more personality to the channel!

  • @Aiello_
    @Aiello_ Місяць тому +3

    Please add Metro Exodus to the roster of games when trying ray tracing, that game still is beautiful!

  • @hill2hell
    @hill2hell Місяць тому +4

    It's amazing hardware for it's size. It's just showing low number because it's on 4k. But if someone was just using it on a 1080p or a 1440p monitor then it would be totally fine.

  • @balaam_7087
    @balaam_7087 Місяць тому +1

    I love that pose in the video picture. It reminds me of that thug holding a few bucks in that ‘15 dollars, now that’s gangsta’ meme 😆

  • @Mamiya645
    @Mamiya645 Місяць тому +2

    90's we had face budgets, developers learned to put debris down lanes to prevent framedrops from tanking harder than anything, games journalists gave attention and love to games that ran a solid 60fps and optimization was a must. 00's we got games using hefty HDs and blu-ray storage as an excuse to feature uncompressed everything. 10's we started dreaming of a new western games industry crash. 20's and we have lead developers saying "lol just get better pcs".

  • @grumpyoldwizard
    @grumpyoldwizard Місяць тому +2

    It seems like frame generation just makes extra frames to boost the FPS number. Clever.
    People like high FPS? Let's make a bunch of extra frames...

  • @LukeTheJoker
    @LukeTheJoker Місяць тому +1

    I don't understand why anyone would trade decent native resolution rasterization performance for Ray tracing with upscaling.

  • @hoiroi5174
    @hoiroi5174 Місяць тому +2

    Wonder if you could try testing games on Linux when its starting to be popular because of steam would be an interesting video to see gaming Linux vs windows.

  • @jeanpips
    @jeanpips Місяць тому +3

    i made my main pc from a mini pc (ryzen 7 5800u 32gb ram) ,install "steamos" type Os and boom (more performance on linux than windows ,i use bazzite) i will buy this one soon i think ,for upscaled emulation + portability is perfect , "ultimate emu station"

  • @grootbatavia
    @grootbatavia 22 дні тому

    These small windows computers are getting nicer, but they still do not beat a mac mini overall. Yes, some benchmarks may match or even supersede those of the mac mini, but the fact that a mac mini just works (and runs OSX, though that is a personal preference). The mac mini m2 pro is the most efficient computer I have used for photo editing (large batches, denoising raw files, conversions). The problem I still see with these windows boxes are temperatures...

  • @joshybunny893
    @joshybunny893 21 день тому

    That is INSANE that little box can do that... Cyberpunk is seriously a good game now, shame people still hold it.

  • @afiamoonlight4073
    @afiamoonlight4073 Місяць тому

    I know this isn't the channel for that kind of thing, but I've always noticed some kind of overlap with gamers who game on pc AND do music production either in FL Studio or Ableton Live (or some other DAW), and figured I'd chime in on something. These little machines are a great value for music production if any of you are interested in that space, and it's made my life a lot easier in that regard. I used to hate dealing with those hardware limitations from my older PC on the regular, to the point where I would reconsider loading up FL for more than a half hour. Now, I'm creating synth presets and little melodies that I can't get out of my head to ease back into it because now my life is too busy to work on just one song all evening on a workday. Mine cost less than $500 I believe, and now I don't want to build a new tower any more (although that would be nice 😅😩).
    Edit: As for gaming, I love them for emulation.

  • @marknewellmusic
    @marknewellmusic Місяць тому +1

    Great vid Steve 👌

  • @danielkowalski7527
    @danielkowalski7527 Місяць тому +1

    1080p 60fps no RT is a holy grail of a pc player.
    Now just we need pc consuming 10w to ge tthis performance and we are set for life

  • @entryofemotion12
    @entryofemotion12 Місяць тому +1

    While these metrics are all CRAZY cool and it's exciting that we're finally hitting a point where this is possible...man Cyberpunk with RT and the FSR boost looks REALLY bad on the combo of settings needed for it. I'm excited this is becoming something we can see nearly realistic to do but it's just crazy how much of a hit to quality something like FSR can be. I generally avoid RT on even my desktop card because I'm usually not happy with the performance hit, but if we're approaching a point where this is feasible in games WITHOUT FSR, I think that's going to be a huge boon for people with entry level/budget systems. I'm at least happy we're getting there, so hopefully over the next ~5 years or so this is more realistic.
    EDIT: I should clarify I mean BEFORE the path tracing. The scene in the rain is what I was specifically talking about.

  • @neondemon5137
    @neondemon5137 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks Steve.

  • @nunyabusiness4651
    @nunyabusiness4651 Місяць тому +1

    This thing is a beast. would beat any budget cart from 8yrs ago! That's saying loads for an integrated graphics card!

  • @Orodreth888
    @Orodreth888 Місяць тому +2

    If only the 780m wasn't so expensive still :(

    • @VertexPlaysMC
      @VertexPlaysMC Місяць тому +1

      Yeah it would be great if you could have 780m on ryzen 3 or 5 for budget gaming

  • @burrfoottopknot
    @burrfoottopknot Місяць тому +2

    Fallout 4 results were impressive

  • @laupatual7137
    @laupatual7137 Місяць тому

    Would've been cool to see Lossless scaling being used for the games that don't support Frame gen, eitherway this was nice watch, amazing how absolutely good FSR or upscalers in general are. Just wished they weren't used as an alternative for actual optimization tho lol.

  • @Zerbey
    @Zerbey Місяць тому

    Technology such as FSR and DLSS can be amazing, but there's always sacrifices when you use it. Better to just accept a lower resolution than try to upscale in most cases.

  • @mk-wz2sh
    @mk-wz2sh Місяць тому +1

    If you have over 50-60fps in a game on low settings, increase the graphics quality. At high frame rates, the CPU has a greater impact on performance than the GPU itself

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 Місяць тому

    That looks a nice system, and to be honest I'd happily buy one of these even if it was just for general, more simpler tasks. The fact that this beats or matches older dedicated GPUs (think 1050s and 1050TIs) is even better.

  • @rekless1110
    @rekless1110 Місяць тому

    Steve you're a legend, love ya :)

  • @cry2crysty
    @cry2crysty Місяць тому +4

    hallo steve 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

  • @skewuulman3174
    @skewuulman3174 Місяць тому +1

    This performs very similary to my gtx 950

  • @SamuHell782
    @SamuHell782 Місяць тому +3

    I'd like to see your take on the Radeon 880M machines when they come out! Give an ear scratch to your dog from me.

  • @MamadHayayo
    @MamadHayayo Місяць тому +1

    It's a great video.

  • @MrMoonY-od2ms
    @MrMoonY-od2ms Місяць тому

    I hope next time, you’ll show us the cpu and gpu temperature during task and noise level.

  • @Dryde85
    @Dryde85 Місяць тому +1

    UM790Pro is the best.
    If.minisforum releases a UM version thats basically the 790pro with a oculink port that doesnt hold a m.2 slot hostage and keeps the port arrangement then would only that be a better sequel.

  • @Lurch-Bot
    @Lurch-Bot Місяць тому +2

    IDK why people rave about the new AMD APUs. The 780M is roughly the equivalent of an RX470 and is the practical equivalent of where Ryzen Vega APUs were a few years ago in terms of relative performance. In other words, having this kind of performance in an APU would have been impressive 5 years ago but is really just par for the course in 2024.
    These minis aren't really gaming PCs. They are compact productivity machines because, when seen from a gaming perspective, you are having to buy a lot of utterly pointless CPU cores just to get the 780M. An 8600HQ with a 780M would have made sense for gaming. But they give you a cut down version with the 6 core that is truly pointless for playing current titles.
    This is an awful lot of money to pay to end up having performance in gaming that is markedly worse than a budget PC I sold for $350 earlier this year. Pretty sad that the 780M can't even match the performance of a 1650.
    As for getting the most out of one of these, you need Lossless Scaling, which now does frame gen too. It won't work with literally ALL games but will work with most. You'd be surprised at how well 2x scaling plus 2x frame gen actually looks and plays; been playing FH4 at 1440p60 on a Haswell i7 and a GTX670 SC (which is 75% of the rasterization performance of a 780M, lol) and was pretty much shocked that I could be normally competitive in ranked racing with the game running like this. Smooth and responsive. I do have both the LS1 scaling and LSFG 2.1 running in performance mode which results in the odd visual anomaly, such as a somewhat wonky moving map. But you get the lowest latency penalty that way so worth the tradeoff.

  • @EinSwitzer
    @EinSwitzer Місяць тому

    Mods and overclock, not a bad setup

  • @Kiyuja
    @Kiyuja Місяць тому

    the levels of insanity have reached new heights with that one :D

  • @B-26354
    @B-26354 Місяць тому

    Fairly certain 240p was the resolution Resident Evil 2 backgrounds were rendered in 1998... 😂

  • @antonn.ivanovic
    @antonn.ivanovic Місяць тому

    you could use lossles scaling frame generation with mini and low end systems

  • @real_drops
    @real_drops Місяць тому

    could you maybe add for the future some sound/noise testing? like db level half a meter away from desktop? like Windows idle, typical gaming and max load

  • @ramr7051
    @ramr7051 Місяць тому

    I'm enjoying my 780m. Frame Gen and fsr3.1 help a lot in horizon fw

  • @danielgriffith8911
    @danielgriffith8911 Місяць тому +1

    It HAS no graphics card because it has Oculink.. which is support for an external eGPU. You simply cant COOL these in the same unit these days. Plays most games fine without an eGPU, though.

  • @leechurchill5182
    @leechurchill5182 16 днів тому

    Got my this week and love it. Plays everything retro but im kinda new to all the tweaking. Do i need to install AMD Fidelity? I always get lost with all the riff raff.

  • @BlueEyedVibeChecker
    @BlueEyedVibeChecker Місяць тому

    I like these mini PCs that use AMD graphics.
    I hate finding a good one only to see Intel UHD as the graphics solution, like sure the CPU is strong enough to play Cyberpunk 2077 and Starfield at the same time, but the graphics are barely strong enough for 540P Pong.
    If they did either AMD iGPUs, or Intel CPU with a custom mobile ARC GPU chip, that'd be a huge step up for Intel-based mini PCs.

  • @GhostLinx
    @GhostLinx Місяць тому

    Should have tested frame gen with every game

  • @raymondgradzewicz
    @raymondgradzewicz Місяць тому

    10:15 What about GTAV 2160p with lossless scaling (program on steam) providing frame generation? Tech Yes CIty made a video on it.

  • @Collin_J
    @Collin_J Місяць тому

    I'm amazed this "works." That wording might be a little generous.

  • @EzaneeGires
    @EzaneeGires Місяць тому

    Lossless Scaling app helps a lot with these integrated graphics (up to a point)

  • @bojc21
    @bojc21 Місяць тому

    Wow what a cool little beast, I really hope in the future they make APUs focused on gaming and don't paywall it on R9 CPU. Lets face it, it's wasted on R9 since they are to expensive.

  • @uros2909
    @uros2909 Місяць тому

    I'm wondering how much will new mini pc's cost when strix apu's come out, cause I'd love to own one and sell my current pc. I've come to like small factor machines after I bought XSS

  • @christophermullins7163
    @christophermullins7163 Місяць тому

    Is there a meter for the igpu separately from the cpu?
    Lossless would be good in some games on this. Ive been using it on alanwake2.
    It would be interesting to see the release date of the titles as a reference of how demanding the title is. The games benchmarked were an excellent set for a minipc reveiw. 👌

  • @v.9876
    @v.9876 Місяць тому +1

    AMD set the bar some time ago with the igpu and this one is very good if you compare it to the rest but it still gets beaten be decade old graphics cards

  • @hashbrownz1999
    @hashbrownz1999 Місяць тому

    Upscaling and generation is awesome for low end gaming, but as a snob, even ultra quality settings make my 1440p monitor feel pointless.

  • @System51
    @System51 Місяць тому

    What I would not mind to see if linux compatibility of those devices. Like do all the ports still work or do you get less performance on some things? (I know gaming performance in some games is lower since I am on linux most of the time so no need to test the games again) Would you be able to test some distros on those devices at some point?

  • @tobik9455
    @tobik9455 Місяць тому +7

    If you want to play on a low budget just get a Series S.

  • @John_Doe1980
    @John_Doe1980 Місяць тому

    0:49 as soon as you said 4k gaming i thought of half life 2 on this mini pc not even sure why they even wasted the silicon on the um980 its basically a 5% better 7840/7940

  • @jakeparkinson8929
    @jakeparkinson8929 Місяць тому

    A fun video you can do is using a capture with a separate computer to generate frames by using Lossless Scaling (on Steam) with obs's preview mode.
    You can literally use a separate computer to double fps if a game says, runs at 30fps. I did this with two thinkpads to achieve 1080p 60 on an mx450 gpu that can only run games at 1080p 30 (bg3 and newer games). For the framegeneration, i used an a285 thinkpad that had a vega 8 gpu with UXTU to unlock the tdp.
    Besides the input lag (its manageable), its absolute meth.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  Місяць тому

      Ah that sounds interesting I’ll have to look into it

  • @kuyache2
    @kuyache2 Місяць тому

    Now in 2024 to avoid all common problems it is best to set the GPU VRAM allocation to at least 8gb if you have 32gb ram, 24gb is plenty for most games! If you have just 16gb is where you use AUTO so game can allocate enough for both the game and graphics dynamically as needed. If you have 8gb on an APU for the love of gaming please buy more ram ^_^

  • @MultiDeivas
    @MultiDeivas Місяць тому

    It is unfortunate that they don't separate the oculink from the slots for nvme drives. This PC checks almost every single box. Having to choose between storage or gpu is a letdown.

  • @lockout5731
    @lockout5731 Місяць тому +2

    great content how i would benchmark slender the arrival we need that on a video to be benchmarked

  • @andrewmutavi590
    @andrewmutavi590 Місяць тому

    Curious,how much ACTUAL PERFORMANCE does one loose using the Oculink EGPU set up

  • @slapnut892
    @slapnut892 Місяць тому

    The only thing I don't like about FG is that it can create extremely bad tearing. It's implemented terribly in The Witcher 3. Try running that maxed out at 1080p on a RTX 4060, it's not going to be a fun time, unless you use Lossless Scaling which would be just as bad.

  • @kibakurosaki
    @kibakurosaki Місяць тому

    Maybe you could max the iGPU RAM to 16GB and see if Starfield plays any better.

  • @AgentLazarus
    @AgentLazarus Місяць тому

    This is about the power of a GTX 1060

  • @aarongreenfield9038
    @aarongreenfield9038 Місяць тому

    Running cyberpunk at 17 FPS is considered a war crime.

  • @emilkitane5916
    @emilkitane5916 Місяць тому

    You should try checking out those asrock stx Pcs

  • @tomekpaliwoda4945
    @tomekpaliwoda4945 Місяць тому

    Hi, have you experienced any trouble with this computer like: keeps rebooting randomly, d.i.e. while gaming or watching videos on UA-cam or freezes when idle? I started serching and many ppl suffer this problem with prevoius models.

  • @gazzertrn
    @gazzertrn Місяць тому +1

    Cute pup .

  • @snakeplissken1754
    @snakeplissken1754 Місяць тому

    I think consumers and developers (publishers) have a very much different opinion on why upscaling exists.
    For consumers it´s to make playing in native resolution/higher settings viable on mid/lower end hardware (or even to have the game run playable at all)
    While for developers (publishers, i guess even more so pushing for games to be rushed out and not waste time on optimization), upscaling is just there so they can save time on optimization.
    In general i´d say we are still in a decent spot where a lot of times you can benefit quiet a bit from upscaling specially on older hardware. This would totally fly out the window if it becomes the tool to skip optimization.
    One a sidenote, i don´t think that gpu manufacturers are that happy with upscaling, as it increases the usability of a gpu by quite a bit. Even some more outdated gpu´s are given a second wind with upscaling, so the consumer might delay his upgrade to a newer card for longer.

  • @terrytaylor2104
    @terrytaylor2104 Місяць тому

    These $100 mini pcs are tempting but the small size generating all that heat over time scares me, it's not as easy replacing cooked failing components with something like this. I think the smallest I would consider is micro atx in a HAF configuration.

    • @zeronin4696
      @zeronin4696 Місяць тому +2

      Those $100 mini pcs dont have the powerdraw to get cooked

    • @kvendy
      @kvendy Місяць тому +1

      Good luck finding a capable mini pc for less than $270+ , this mini pc is $400+

  • @burnplaysgames
    @burnplaysgames Місяць тому

    Getting to the point where integrated GPUs can do all this is not something I expected for atleast another 5-10 years

  • @jeremygregorio7472
    @jeremygregorio7472 Місяць тому +1

    These are neat but they're useless in the laptops in desktops they put them in. I only have received them in stuff over $1,000. At that point there's plenty of other stuff on the market that has discreet graphics

  • @UnknownPerson-cl9di
    @UnknownPerson-cl9di Місяць тому

    I personally like the way on this PC CSGO works better than my PC with i7 3rd gen and RX 470 which is equivalent to half as good as RTX 4060

  • @AgentLazarus
    @AgentLazarus Місяць тому

    There's only so much silicon within a certain space can do.

  • @SalamaAhmed-pj3jv
    @SalamaAhmed-pj3jv Місяць тому

    What about the temps? is it high or the fan is noisy?

  • @TrusteftTech
    @TrusteftTech Місяць тому

    Anyone heard about specific dates about the next generation of AMD's iGPU?

  • @manurz1
    @manurz1 10 днів тому

    3:27 a?

  • @Acikexe
    @Acikexe Місяць тому

    3:27 grandfuto5??

  • @buggerlugz6753
    @buggerlugz6753 Місяць тому

    aren't these the ones that come with spyware installed from the factory?

    • @JoseLucasd
      @JoseLucasd Місяць тому

      Blud thinks windows doesnt alr spyware u 😭🙏

  • @thrivingentrepreneur
    @thrivingentrepreneur Місяць тому

    int thre yet but we close

  • @Rmm1722
    @Rmm1722 Місяць тому

    Nice 👍

  • @darcyooh3381
    @darcyooh3381 Місяць тому

    Can this thing run Elden ring? I'm curious

  • @spantoby
    @spantoby Місяць тому

    some how it does then my pc in gta 5 in 1080p and my gpu is a rx 6600

  • @chinmayanand1960
    @chinmayanand1960 Місяць тому

    1440p??

  • @RmRoyalflush
    @RmRoyalflush Місяць тому +2

    Yo bro

  • @reahs4815
    @reahs4815 Місяць тому

    Would it be possible to add War thunder to the list of games tested?

  • @ShawnLangford
    @ShawnLangford Місяць тому

    Does this support RAID?

  • @TheSlowDude
    @TheSlowDude Місяць тому

    Wait what? Steve???

  • @makandalp
    @makandalp Місяць тому

    Steam deck 2 will prolly have the same performance

  • @dogfromthepurplezoneoffici5182
    @dogfromthepurplezoneoffici5182 Місяць тому

    Star field wasn't enjoyable for me with framerates even on the lowest settings with a ryzen 4600 and rx580 super

    • @jtenorj
      @jtenorj Місяць тому

      Do you mean an RX 580 8GB versus a 4 GB model? There is no RX 580 Super( though the RX 590 is basically a die shrunk RX 580 with roughly 200MHz higher base and boost clock speeds). The minimum requirements are an RX 5700 on the AMD side or a GTX 1070 Ti on the Nvidia side. Your GPU is below the minimum requirements to run the game.

  • @vaggelisbasoukas7928
    @vaggelisbasoukas7928 Місяць тому

    Sadly the price CANNOT be..swallowed..! it needs at least 50% discound to ..eligible..at EU cause we are US consumers !

  • @Kababalax
    @Kababalax 29 днів тому

    hows your dad Kevin doing?