I spent £50 on this China-exclusive graphics card. But Should You?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Today we're looking at a graphics card that launched exsluviely in China back in 2019. Thanks to SOYO and AliExpress, it's finally avaialble to the masses, but should you buy one?
Test Specs:
i5 12400F
32GB DDR4 3200 (2x16GB)
GPU: SOYO AMD Radeon RX 560 XT
The Graphics Card:
www.aliexpress...
Thanks for watching :) - Наука та технологія
The RX 560XT is a Rebranded RX 470D which was a dumping ground for all the failed RX 470s that cannot even hit 2048SP, Polaris had quite a large bit of failure rate from manufacturing, which is why AMD made so many 2048SP RX 580s.
The 1792SP RX 470D was initially meant for mining as the core didn't matter as much but memory bus does. But as mining died downed they rebranded it as the RX 560XT for gaming purposes, which explains the single HDMI output.
True. It is also comparable in GPU power to PS4 GPU . So basically games that run well on PS4 (like GTA V) will run well on this too.
@@aleksazunjic9672 PS4 is around gtx750ti / rx460.... PS4 Pro is a around rx570 / 580. This GPU is probably close to twice of PS4 gpu.
This GPU matches the RX6400, GTX 1650 and A380 in rasterization performance but, unlike the rest of those GPUs, the 560XT doesn't support DX12U. At least this one works with official drivers.
Interestingly, there are some RX 470D that can have all 2048sp enabled with a vbios flash, and there had been some words floating around saying the RX580 2048sp can be upgraded to 2304sp through a similar process. I have only tested the theory on a 2048sp RX580 myself with failure, but there is a lot more success stories for the RX 470D, and maybe for the RX 560XT as well. AMD don't do as good of a job at disabling shaders back then as they do now.
I remember buying RX 470D from china, I flashed RX 470 bios and managed to unlock rest of the cores. I was lucky since mine was rock stable for many years.
Soyo was actually a known brand back in the 90s. Would like to know if today´s Soyo is the same thing as back then.
Ah that’s a cool piece of info. I’ll look into it!
It's not, "Soyo" these days is just Maxsun
@@RandomGaminginHD There are 232 Soyo motherboards on The Retro Web, spanning from 80386 era to Pentium 4 era.
Soyo was legendary during the VIA chipset days in the early 00s. Side note I do miss Soltek, Epox and Leadtek🥲
@@contadeusuario7806 I'm rocking a Maxsun H610 board rn and will definitly get an AM5 maxsun board. Half the price, bare minimum but worth it with vrms and what not. Pretty cool for budget gaming
That's a sapphire rx shroud painted white
Yeah looks like it 😁
I had to walk over and pick up my beloved Sapphire RX 470 when I saw it. I almost want to buy one of these now...
So not a bad thing?
@@ronniemoysey8854 Not at all, as long as the price is right
@@haydn-db8z I hope you carefully placed it back down again. no bruising, please.
TBH you could use it as is. Build a low cost banger box for gaming on single player games with this. Could be fun.
To give you more info on this. It uses the same architecture as mining boards that the mining cards used. Example like the RX470D which was a mining variant. Thats why there is only 1 HDMI port. They essentially used a mining card and converted it to a gaming card (bios flash , ect.) Its actuaslly cost effective as then can buy these mining boards for cheap , do some modifications to the HDMI port (to make it work , soldering) and a bios reflash and done).
Some of them originally had DVI out
@@mr.moonmn1436 It's actually the 560 minin variant with a bios flash, the actual 560 xt has all ports
is this why they run at such low temps?
I was honestly impressed how it never went over 60C on those benchs.
@@LucasCunhaRocha It's basically using a beefy cooler on a GPU that never needed it, if it used the standard cooler for this GPU you'd still barely see it hit over 65°
@@LucasCunhaRocha Yes. Most of these mining cards came without a fans because they were designed for passive cooling. Funny enough a model for such mining card is RX470D w/o fan. Therefore the cooler they put on there was made for passive cooling , now adding a fan and you have a very good cooled GPU.
Don't mind a Chinese Takeaway myself .......
You are funny! 😆
i just saw the sub count 529k.. ive been here since 13k....(on a different yt account i lost) great work dude, always loved your videos when i was in school.. that's a couple years back now tho XD
PLEASE do more Aliexpress cards! they are something I can actually afford, and I am so scared to pull the trigger on an aliexpress card
Woah! Did we just upload the same video on the same day. 😮 Hope all is well my man
wild, i seen them both, nice video as always
I was gonna say… LOL
most painfully annoying and repetitive computer channel on the entire site.
@@brandonlehman7440 No, I hold that honor 🤣🤣🤣
At 1792 cores its closer to the 2048 cores of the RX 570 than to the 1024 cores (or even 876 of the cut down) RX 560.
My RX 570 is only 4GB so I guess in current year this 560XT is better buy.
Your 570 will still be fine, it should just beat the 560XT by a smallish margin. At least my old Sapphire 570 4GB would.
The fact this is the price the rx 580 2048sp had on that site half a year ago and the prices have changed so much is crazy
The Funny thing is, I also happen to have a China/AliExpress - only AMD Radeon GPU, It's a Radeon R7 350 2GB D5 [Sapphire Nitro - branded, and it's Dual Fan, the shell looks like a modern graphics card, just like the RX 560XT in your hand but Silver/Gray] , the funny thing is about its SOLE existence being only in AliExpress, and R7 350 doesn't seem to exist anywhere else (other than AliExpress for the hardware and AMD's Website for Drivers ofc). Yeah, not even in Sapphire's Website. Thought it's a cool piece of GPU to have.
YES! Someone finally reviewed this thing! Thank you
I just got this very card last week - It is a rebranded RX 470D, and was mostly used a mining card.
I bought FH4 today, Deluxe Ed. How could I not? It's Brit Forza, with Brit seasons.
Nice of you to help everyone in csgo 2 on their K/D ratio.
Early group!! Love your vidros, your voice is relaxing and its always so informative 😊
Thank you!
The CS2 gameplay was painful
MAN, I ALWAYS COME BACK TO YOUR CHANNEL! It's been years and you get lost in the algorithm sometimes but I always revisit! Great video as always m8!
Honestly, even with the limited output, cant complain with that performance at that price
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i have the soyo 5700xt, bought it for 100 usd and its running amazingly so far for 7 months
One HDMi and no DisplayPort? Grim.
Yeah a strange choice
Particularly if you wanted to do some Linuxing.
Yeah, could have at least done daisy chaning with one DP.
I kept thinking how SOL it would be if that one HDMI port dies at some point. Do think the 580 or Linux could give this a second life though.
It was probably meant for Internet cafes so makes sense that it only needed that one port
Is this officially the worst 8gb card? Just curious
Nah China made PCB versions are far worse. This is reworked sapphire... like "hacked" in a sense...
idk why I find it funny when you turn it around slowly revealing the one hdmi in the corner, its like its screaming "THIS IS WHAT YOU PAID FOR", its just so in character for a chinese product
Yeah. I saw that one HDMI port and thought "that's it? Really? A little underwhelming. Seems like a not too bad card for around $60 on aliexpress
It's targetted to internet cafes that usually just has one monitor per PC. Even in a gimped RX580, it is enough for competitive play.
to be fair, I am using pc's for quite a long time now and I never used more than one VGA or DVI connector. Roughly one year ago I plugged in my first monitor via HDMI xD
Dual monitor also wastes a lot of energy, In short I would be fine with one HDMI connector. ^^
I had my hopes up that this would have been a WX5100 with a proper cooler. The WX5100 is the same 560XT chip, but with a 43w power limit, a single slot cooler and no 6 or 8-pin. They stutter when gaming unless you do a bios overclock to increase the ddr5 from 1250mhz to at least 1500mhz, and whilst you're there, raising the power limit to around 65w brings about 30+% better performance. It performs like an RX 6400, but without the 4GB bottleneck.
Great video!
our store sells their GPUs regularly for 2 years now because our customers are cheap. so we only give em a few months warranty with these products and it's a win win situation so far. but mostly only their RTX 3060 12gb and RTX 2060 super
That's a really nice looking graphics card, good modelling too 😁
It has the same cooler as an Sapphire RX 470 / RX 480, just painted white.
It's a same card... quad uefi miner reworked to be something else appearance wise.
Your facial expression while handling that card was at points, akin to a person picking up after their dog during walkies.
Walkies? Wtf..
@@CovenantAgentLazarus Okay, Laz.
This is extremely decent for $50 and i myself would personally buy this. it even looks decent - runs great
256bit bus though...........something from Aliexpress that puts "newer" cards to shame!
That single HDMI looks like a mining card.
There are AMD mining card floating around that have same layout with single HDMI close to pcie connector.
One single HDMI output?! I have never seen modern stuff like this. Used to my VGA had one output but that was 25 years ago
I love that the box looks like a Nvidia box just for better marketing
I used to have a Soyo Dragon SY-KT333 motherboard. Hearing that brand name again brought back memories...
Ive had a couple of 580s from AliExpress and not had a problem with them at all however seeing this in white Im severely tempted. Great to see GPU packaging artwork hasnt completely died out. Thanks Steve, great video
Lol i bought one of these in 2021 for 65 euro for my sisters pc have to say it still works pretty ok she only plays sims and a few other non taxing games not a bad little card on a tight budget
Today i bought a Dell optiplex with an i5 6 gb of ram and a 1TB hdd for 42€
You need to test more soyo products, they are pretty underrated only for being Chinese, the plastic feels a little sus but the rest is fine
I recently paired a rx 580 8gb 2048sp i got from aliexpress for £50 with a 7500f for £100, upgrade-able and great for most things.
i got a 1tb nvme gen 3x4 for £30 and 32gb of 6000mhz teamgroup expert ram for £70, after some testing im surprised its all legit for so cheap
eventually i can upgrade but gpu prices are too overpriced lol.
Can you compare it to an RX 6500 XT. Seen those at a similar used price now.
I feel like this is the same idea being used today, the Rx 7600(lowest tier flagship) comes with 8gbs of vram but gets boosted to 16gbs for the XT model. The Rx 560 also gets is vram capacity boosted for it's XT model🤔
the cooler and shroud came from old sapphire rx570 and repainted white also the heatsink they painted silver to make look clean haha
you should do a +20% TDP test and a easy overclock test to see how compare to a rx570
4:38 should try doin competitive cs2 look very pro at cs2
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sapphire shroud ? probably had plenty left and bought them
one HDMI port is weird
The original has 1 hdmi only for bracket holder doesn't work. Unless you apply copper wires to make bridges then it works... since original had 1 only... thus reworked has 1 only
It's a sapphire miner quad uefi reworked into gamer
The box design a la Nvidia is a little bit weird but the card design is nice!
It reminds me of the XFX cards with those little dimples. I love XFX card design, I have an XFX 6750 XT myself
It is a 1:1 copy of Sapphire
The card is trash. Its not even worth $60 USD now. Why bother?
4:30 wasn’t me
If this took pcie power only it would be a great pickup.
This white case looks absolutely beautiful
I bought a Soyo RX 580 2048sp and it died after about a day. Luckily, the person I sold it to lived close by so I was able to replace it with a different gpu for him, but still sucked to lose the $60. I haven’t bought any aliexpress GPUs since then. Great experience with Aliexpress CPUs, including my 7500F
Soyo sells reworked original sapphire / other brand cards recycled from mining. They have huge fail rate after using for gaming unless you apply huge undervolt underclock... with 580 is very hard to do so... every bios is 1200+
Scored. Loved building with Soyo boards back in the day. They did some fun color ways.
Interesting that it has the Sapphire Nitro Pulse shroud and cooler.
RandomGaming got da Virgil chair!!!!!
looks like a knockoff of sapphires designs but in white
these are "Remanufactured" cards from recycled GPUS / VRAMs
This aspect of the Chinese are actually more environmentally friendly and resourceful. Having all electronic parts being made in your country is really helpful too.
Ath this mont intime tha waz tha las time tha wnwing mwde Sam cent tha under 2000cuda cores .. and after 2016 total fail
soyo is a pretty decent brand! I've gotten a cheap soyo monitor and hell, it works fine, not the very best, but its fine to daily drive
Oh nice I didn’t know they did monitors
Card seems like the quality kind of card for the price. I may pick up one.
I was browsing Aliexpress today for a card, and I've stumbled upon this. Wonder what it was. Now you upload this video. Nice timing.
The Soyo card looks like a 5x 5x0 pulse from sapphire, but in white and with incredibly bad finishing haha
One thing I am still unable to understand till this date is why I with 1650 mobile get around 60 fps at very high settings while my friend with a desktop 1650 gets 90+ fps just like the case with 560 xt in this video
This just happens with gta v and used to happen with csgo, now cs2 doesn't have this problem.
Can someone help me?
Fyi the difference between the desktop and mobile version of 1650 is just about 2-5 fps. He has a 5500 and my processor is 5600h, which is slightly powerful as well. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND
Mobile chips can be power limited depending on the type of laptop/power saving options, so while specs may be comparable, the final result is not.
@@stefankoopmans2200 i know that, but it only happens with gta v
My friend and I tested rdr2, while I got an avg framerate of 47 he got 49
There are tgp differences but even with that there's only 4 fps difference in most games
@@trexxtechs2857 Well, I don't know m8, could be so many little factors at play. Sure you don't have something like vsync enabled through nVidia control panel so it's like limited to 60fps? sure there has to be some reason for it right. Have a nice day! :)
@@stefankoopmans2200 Nothing, I have checked nvidia control panel thoroughly, vsync is off, nothing wrong with and software as well
Always plugged in and running on high performing mode while playing
Good for Netcafe setup!
Soyo used to be the OEM for HP until HP brought out the alienwear brand. I have an old HP Pavilion with the original Soyo 240 HD GPU it’s from early 2000. It was built for video editing.
Wow lol this is the original shroud and fan of the sapphire nitro+ rx 470
The whole thing is a nitro miner quad uefi reworked manually soldier... it's a sapphire underneath.
When you save money on the GPU, but it takes an hour to figure out the drivers 😂. At $20 per hour, you have now spent $70.
I too remember Soyo from the 90s.
Also Sis LOL
anyone know the required power for this card? my pc isnt the greatest but for that reason i don't want to spend too much of a GPU, Just looking to make it HDMI so i can use it as a media centre when we buy a gaming PC in the future
Splendid
It looks like a Kmart version of the Sapphire 5 series cards. And I love the looks of those.
I bought a Soyo Rx 6600m, for just 150 usd, flashed it to a normal rx 6600 to have full control.. it feels like the best f*cking upgrade I've done for my pc, considering the local rx 6600 is +240 usd, and the 3060 is +300 usd
This brand is more reliable than Aisurix
It looks suspiciously similar to a sapphire outer shroud. 🧐
I need help making these. I have the original cards... and I soldered bridges copper wire to make HDMI work. But bios is mining and I cannot get it to post without AMD pixel patch.
Anybody knows how did they digitally sign the bios to post? Usually custom bios wont post... any change = no post...
Mine are Samsung 4gb K4G41325FE / ram and Samsung 8gb K4G80325FB to make things worse...
I had a RX580 2048SP that was used in China for mining rigs, it was a modified RX570 with an overclock to 2048MHz, and had the same 8gb ram that the 580 got. Kinda sucked because it only had 3 outputs (2 hdmi, 1 DVI), I ended up getting a RX580 to replace it with 5 ports (2 HDMI, 1 DP, 1 DVI). I wish they still made 5 display gaming cards.
That is a Chinese reworked Sapphire RX 470 quad uefi scam. They solder connectors to make HDMI active, they cut the hole via CNC machine, they painted it white.
They gave it a 1070 mhz bios because those cards are used for mining so unstable at 1150 most of them...
I can buy them for 10 dollar a piece, reworking takes about 2hours per card. 40 dollar profit for 2hr is good money for a Chinese person.
Im just looking at SONGREY Geforce GTX 1060 6GB Low Profile, apparently its a 75w 1060 gtx i can only think its lowered clocks or based on the quadro p2000 that uses the same die. Anyone got any info on these things ?
Looks like Sapphire dumped their excess parts onto SOYO. The card seems to have the same cooler/backplate as rx 570 pulse, just painted white. There were also rx 470 mining cards with the same shroud using the rx 570 pulse pcb, but without the backplate. The mining cards also have just one output, but I've mostly seen DVI variants. Interesting card either way.
8:02 honestly i'd rather suggest to overclock this card to 1400Mhz gpu clock as in the majority of the games shown it hardly reaches even 55 Celsius ...
Btw could u get and test the amd ryzen 5 3500 (X) cpu ?? It seems like its just a natural six core cpu that can only handle 6 threads at the same time, but it could lead to quite some confusion since there are other cpus with lower numbers but they offer 4 cores and 8 threads, it would be very interesting to see how such a pure 6 core cpu holds up nowadays in gaming, thank you!
10 seconds into the video and I was wondering what if that's not an Nvidia GPU.
Also, this GPU looks like an RX 570/580 SAPPHIRE Nitro but painted in white.
Semi-OT: There seems to be a new hype in town, the window scaling and frame generation software "Lossless Scaling" which brings upscaling and frame generation to games which don't have it built in. Could you give it a try, maybe also with video playback?
i had a SOYO H610M motherboard, it has a VRM cooler on it that it looks overkill for an entry level board lol
its been solid for almost 2 years aside from the moody memory compatibility, everything else runs smoothly. It even still has BIOS updates and is compatible with 14th gen intel.
Looking at the metrics, the usage of VRAM never exceeds 4GB.
I don't know if this is a driver issue, because AMD never released a 8GB 560 and therefore it doesn't use the extra VRAM, or if this is kinda fake.
I am sorry, but all I can "see" is one video port. One! I don't even remember the last time I had a card with just one port. Perhaps my CL5428 back in 1994? So weird for a relatively new card.
Amazing how most games still look quite good even on low/lowest settings - look at Cyberpunk. I remember an era when low settings meant a pixellated mess of an image where you could barely resolve detail, now it just strips a few layers of sheen off the textures and shadows etc. while still retaining the bulk of the graphic design.
Am using a Soyo mobo (B550m Dragon Monarch). Its very good but the bios update was a mess (everything is in Mandarin). Soyo is now a sub brand of Maxsun..so no relation to the Soyo of old
Judging by the Elden ring results (id say at high with less AA) these RX5xx series cards have aged amazingly well.
Id reccomend any of these card at those prices to any budget buider
Not bad! And I managed to get Forza Horizon 4 as well on sale, due to it being removed from Steam sometime soon. You can get it on game key websites after removal, assuming the stockists have game keys left, but the price will go up and availability will be limited.
It's a shame that these game developers remove games that they think people won't play anymore.
what are you on about? PG removed FH4 due to licensing issues... same reason as older titles
I don’t understand the AMD product stack, so comparisons to AMD products are a bit lost on me. Throw in a 2060 for reference. Otherwise keep up the good work😊
I think your channel is pretty good. Id say two things take it or leave it. Have Fortza 5 right after 4 to show the difference in play ability if any. Use sunscreen and moisturizer if you are going to be on camera. Skin Cancer is no joke and having a skin routine will pay off later in life. Thanks for the vids
i just look at the name and was liked: Yeah GPU naming convention still all over the place. What will happen once we go higher, so we switch from R to S to Z, are we just going to add more numbers?
There are other Cards like the RX 470D and the RX 6600M/ RTX 3060M desktop if u wanna try more Chinese extravaganza
SOYO?! I haven’t heard from them in almost 20 years. My first Athlon XP system used a Soyo motherboard that I got for like $30
That single HDMI port and way more VRAM it would normally be shipped with ... dunno, it gives me the mining vibe.
Can I male a suggestion? On Steam sale there is Lossless scaling on sale, can you test that on an older system like the elden ring setup and see what it actually does? Like what does lossless scaling do on an rx 580 or what is it actually doing? Is the cpu making the frames or the gpu is getting extra frames? Questions...
Really nice unique looking card and not many to be found in the wilderness, I would say it's a steel at £50 even just as one to keep for your collection
Elden Ring is still disappointing in terms of performance. The game is locked at 60 but even that can be hard to achieve with some cards, especially since the graphic options all barely impact performance.
Doesn't look like techpowerup has any VGA bios uploaded for this card, should open GPU-z and hit the upload button :P
it's worth to buy a Rx 7800xt over a Rx 7700xt the price difference is 100$, my procesor is a Ryzen 5600x
This looks like a ripoff of a Sapphire card. It looks like my old RX 580 Sapphire Pulse edition but painted in white