So We Don't Need Red Dots? I Disagree
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Some old guard types were recently ridiculing those of of us who use optics on or carry guns. Here is my rebuttal to that. Its not 1980 any more.
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Definitely on point in all aspects.
I have carried a G19 for 30 years-first in the military in 5th Grp,then as a Trooper-now,in the past year,I’m running the same but with an RMR and an X300T.What a diff!Aging is a bitch,but these made a a world of difference!
Just recently-as of a month ago,I was in Starbucks and I saw 3 deps from Essex county Sheriffs Dept and they were all running G45’s with RMRs and Surefire weapon lights.They told me they have seen huge differences in qualifications and they’re pleased.
At the advanced age that of 68 the red dot has put me back in the accuracy game!
That was the primary reason I started this in 2009. My students couldnt get a sight pic otherwise.
100% on point Gabe, Ken has my greatest and deepest respect. Sadly, I had to come to terms with optics on handguns. I'm 63 now and long in the tooth, my eyes are progressively diminishing for rapid focus (longer to get focused on the iron sights). I was extremely resistant to switching to optics and progressively began introducing them over a period of the last three years to my handguns. I'm now achieving the success with them I desire and the results required. I have to admit the optic has allowed me to reach out there with greater accuracy at distance. The optics are simply amazing and a game changer...I must admit. My Browning Hi-power carry pistol has an optic on it now, and I know I can make that extreme long shot (relative to handgun) as well as in close as always. I can stretch my personal limits and ensure that shot on the threat
Ken's correct....too much of a learning curve, batteries that fail, optics that fog and collect dirt, glare, bulky to conceal and carry. If it ain't broke- don't fix it. Pistol/handgun Irons still work for ME 100% of the time - when I do my part! YMMV. Shoot what you want.
Ive been carrying a G19 since 93. I have a total of three, and all Gen3s. All of them have been to Jagerwerks for optics cuts. I could live back in 93, and still use the irons, but my eyes aren’t 1993 eyes. I dont own a car with a carburetor, i dont have a dial phone on my wall, i dont have a giant TV that weighs 200lbs. Ill bet yall have modernized all of those……
Retired police former military and civilian firearms instructor for 40+ years.Started messing with reddot about 6 years shoukd of started sooner.Game changer can shoot like I could shoot when in my 20s and 30s. EDC has light and optic , also have a handheld light. Good video.
As always you can do what you want…but when you can’t physically see iron sights it sure is nice to have a tool that helps fix that problem.
I gave you a thumbs up and google still keeps it at zero. Thank you, Mr. Suarez.
F*** Google
Great video, I’m still new to red dots on pistols but in that short time jve discovered way more consistent grouping under speed and transitions.
"Ha ha ha, I thought they would send more." Awesome! 👏👏
You don’t NEED to spend $3k on a 1911
Social security and an apartment in the ghetto had me dying 😂great one Gabe
LOL, I was waiting for him to add ".. and your fat wife."...
Especially as you get older... bingo!!! Red dots got me back in the game!
'Mr Churchill taps your shoulder...' Hehehehe. Great stuff as always Gabe
Outstanding stuff, Gabe. Learning a lot here! I have owned a P-01 for a few years now and am finally getting around to doing a bit of a build on it (your CZ videos have definitely inspired me!). I have a limited budget at the moment, so for now, I'm going to put Lok grips on it, install some better sights, and "moderately Cajunize" it with a trigger kit and an extended firing pin. I'll eventually get the slide milled for an optic, but I noticed on your SP-01 here that your irons with the vertical dot alignment look like they could be the Trijicon ones that CZ Custom sells on their site? I've actually been looking at those since I'm a fan of the Ameriglo i-Dot sights, but Ameriglo doesn't currently make them for the 75 series pistols.
I think people need to understand something. Yes, you can be capable without a dot...I can make hits at 50-100yds with irons, and I can make relatively quick hits out to 30yds with irons, but I can do all of that faster and more easily with irons. As for up close, if you are shooting properly, you will not find the dot slowing you down.
A little confusing statement, but I agree if I understood correctly.
Dots are a nice option, but far from a requirement on defensive handguns.
My J Frame doesnt have one. 😊
Neither does mine. Nor do any of my HKs and Glocks.
red dots are great however the learning curve is steep they are not for everyone, shooting uspsa for a while i have no issues ripping a plate rake at 30 yards with irons or red dots to dots are quicker at distance however dot management is real and adding failure points and clutter to a life saving tools maybe something you want to do. train with both how ever kens point of view reid henrichs point paul howe are all spot on.
LOL...learning curve is stupid simple. Been teaching dots since 2010. Taught first ever EDC-CCW Red Dot Pistol class in December 2010.
Anytime you use a new sighting system, give yourself at least 3 range sessions to get use to it. When I put XS Big Dots on a pistol I was feeling like I had wasted money. The third time at the range I was nailing it and thought about putting them on all my guns.
Going to a training class is different. You should adapt during the class because it is all day and you have an instructor guiding you.
It’s hilarious because old people benefit the most from Red (and Green) Dots 😂
Bifocals and barrel bumps are not a great combination
the maine shooter was actually at the same bakery i go to--------summer special is still good----- in the old days peacemaker was compared to newfangled 1911-----we go through this all the time----guns are guns still work over many years--but going bang is not just needed-----but to get the advantage is needed----in the early 2000s red dots and lights were garbage---fast forward to now----they work and work 100 percent---my carry gun is polymer, light and laser-----sometimes i carry a red dot one---but dont like it snag quality
@SuarezTactix Solid video--thanks!! I must have missed your take on the Glock MOS system. What are your thoughts on it or where can I find them? Thanks!!
My original thoughts were that it was a poorly designed product requiring special plates and interface systems. But now that Holosun has optics specifically designed for that system, its very reliable.
State the case without getting personal. Good job Gabe!
Mr.Suarez I must admit. Initially, I was put off by your delivery but I’ve grown to enjoy your perspective on things.
yeah, it takes sometime to get used to Gabriel iconoclastic style of delivering info. But he is almost always correct, like 99.98 % of the time.
You should hear his perspective on co-workers discovering that he was a crooked cop.
@@tostado22 really? I didn’t know that. Do you know something about his career in law enforcement that we don’t know? Not that I care though…
Truth.....
I have two firearms with red dots. They would have been nice when I was a street cop when doing felony car stops. We didn't even have mounted weapon lights in my day. Don't see much value in the most likely self defense scenario. Shooting across a food court? Red dot would be helpful. Truth be told, I still frequently carry a J frame because of familiarity. I confess! I will carry a full size when going into areas with a higher threat assessment.
i put a green dot on my 43x because of mr. gabe. man what a difference!
You could not say it clearer
We switched to optics in the Marines early 2000s optics like computers have gotten smaller more durable and accessible overtime
Bad things happen to good people in nice places.
Amen
Well stated
Great as always
I LIKE IT! Looking at putting a dot on my P-01
Which dot?
Do not fall prey to what idiots with YT channels tell you....
Everything is compared to a trijicon for a reason, it's the best on planet earth without a close second.
Yeah it costs more, buy once cry once.
@@thefrogking481 how about falling prey to idiots that give advise in the comment section?
The drugs being used today are a lot different also
Is it not 2024 today?
Yes and thus wanting to limit your access to technology from 1974 is foolish
Todo es gatillo!
No solamente el gatillo
@@suareztactics de acuerdo 👍
Gabriel, Hackthon said that for distances of 10 yards and closer, you don’t need a red dot. I think red dots are awesome at distances of 20+ yards, but that is my opinion.
Scott Jedlinski is probably the premier instructor in regards to red dots. He explained the advantages well, and he explained how to use the optic when you're in close. But the reality is, that the optic is an advantage. You take a Master level shooter and above, let them run a course with a gun that has an optic, and the same gun without an optic, and they will run it faster with an optic.
@@Osprey1994 very well said. The problem as I see it, and is my opinion only is that not everybody is quote:”Master level” shooter. Red dots in pistols are a nice option, but they are not a must have. if a red dot makes you hit your target more easily and accurately, by all means go for it. To each their own. I don’t have anything against red dots in pistols. But in my humble, uneducated, unsophisticated and definitely not at a master level shooter, at ten yards and closer, a red dot is not better than irons, but that is my opinion and my opinion alone.
Unless you need greater accuracy at ten yards or less.
And all "Premier" instructors aside...we were doing dots while all of them were still using irons.
@@suareztactics well, if dots makes your life easier, go for it Gabriel.
I had to laugh along with you.
Hackafudd
You die an operator or you live long enough to become a Fudd
They are useless for most because they use them like iron sights.
The same people take time to align iron sights at close range.
Never listen to cops about anything.
Unless you are under arrest, then I would listen.