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Roland Boutique TR-08 Rhythm Composer
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2017
- The Roland TR-808 has featured on countless records and tracks - from chart-topping pop songs to underground classics - and is one of the most revered electronic musical instruments of all time. The booming bass drum, sizzling hi-hats, snappy snare, and that unmistakable cowbell, has formed the rhythmic foundation of many genres with a sound that is engrained in today’s music and culture.
In this video, we chat about the latest instrument in the Roland Boutique series - the Roland TR-08 Rhythm Composer. We discuss what the numbers "8-0-8" mean to a number of artists; some of whom have a legacy deeply engrained with the TR-808 to a younger generation of producers who look to take the sound of the TR-808 to a bright future.
Join Jimmy Jam, Egyptian Lover, Principleasure, Shy Boogs, Marley Marl, Nadus, DJ Jazzy Jeff and Juan Atkins share their love for the 808 and the new TR-08 Rhythm Composer.
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The TR-08 brings the look, sound, and feel of the original 808 - with stunning accuracy - to the Roland Boutique format. From the instantly-recognizable red-orange-yellow-white markings, the shape of the sequencer buttons, switches and knobs are details that have been painstakingly reproduced to match the iconic recreation of sounds. Along with the aesthetic touches, the TR-08 contains new features like 16 sub-steps for fast rolls, independent trigger out track, compression/gain/tune for instruments and a selectable modified “long decay” bass drum for more boom and resonance.
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Thank you for bringing back my childhood...
After using the boutiques for a few years I can say that I absolutely love how they sound and feel and the extra functionality that Roland applies to them is simply awesome! Can’t wait to get another one!
It's been a year since you posted this comment, do you still feel the same way? I love these in theory, but I've never tried any of them in person. About to buy the entire damn collection, just wanna make sure they're worth it. Thanks for your time.
@@brnktv As long as you make good music anything is worth it!
@@brnktv Ifyou only got into this recently you then might not see the point but if you’ve been a fan for a long time, even if you got the OG’s you’d want these too. That should answer your question
Just ordered one,I have D05,TR09 now TR08 then will buy the SH01A and TB03 and will be done with the Boutiques purchases.I can say I'm really impressed with the Boutiqe series,they just feel very sturdy ,super cool and inspiring oh and the most important they sound absolutely killer.
The Roland TR-8 has 16 kits including 808, 909, 707 & 727 drum machines, stereo output, mixer, built in delay & reverb with side chaining. I would think most people would buy this TR-08 just for the nostalgic looks.
Yeah and $400 more. Id rather the MC-101 for its smaller foot print the TR-8 is to big for me...
Love the ROLAND TR808 AND THE 08 just cant get enough
"Analog Circuit Behaviour" .. The words that launched a thousand sighs
ACB is awesome. A thousand sighs from people that havent used any. The system-8 is bad ass, has a great sound when you star turning knobs, really brings it to life. Might as well just use a DAW
I like Analog very much ... but I think the difference in the sound is not soooo big as many vintage fans here describe. It is crazy to pay 3500 $ for an old 808 that sounds not really much better then a divice of 400 $. If you have the money why not but I like the new features of the 08. I will buy this one.
love that they nailed that start/stop button. yum
fig. 8 yea!
Announced on 08.08.... nice!
If Juan Atkins, Marley Marl, and Jazzy Jeff are saying it's good, then one thing is clear: I need it
How much money did they pay Egyptian Lover to say this thing sounds better than the real 808?
CHELLO ________ nothing because it does you fkn idiot
CHELLO ________ they can hardly keep a straight face!
Egyptian Lover loves money, a fact
lownrgy so you hate money?
+subsub808 Did you know you can delete your own comments, especially when they're offensive and subsub intelligent ?
Looks gorgeous! Now that you've done these classics, it's time to make the drum computer of today. No emulation. More options for sculpting the sounds. Microtiming. Overdrive. Support for plugouts/expansions. Although I guess we will see yet another classic in june next year... around 6th?
Roland is about to sell a boat load of TR-08's, the clone war is over you style stealers, I think they should win an award for taking the time out to recreate the look and feel of a legend and bring it back too the masses, they don't care about what you haters think about their ACB Circuits, All these modern analog gear coming out today looks and feel retro, but they all still hookup to computers via USB, processed through your DAW of choice and then scattered digitally all over the internet, when the "TR-08 and the SH-101a" comes out I will be spending my $349 on Roland's ACB Technology once again.
Marvin Shively 100%
I'm curious to know how the sound compares to the TR-8. Is it the same, not as good, or better? Also, some of the elitists on this thread (all of whom I've never heard any music from) should chill. I think that it's dope that Roland is making efforts to put cool AFFORDABLE products in people's hands. Most people can't find or afford an original 808 or 909 so I think these machines are pretty dope.
If you think you need this then it's definitely for you
why are the comments so negative? Im so stoked i might actually be able to get an '808 machine' that wont cost me a small mortgage than if i were to find one on ebay. Owning a legit old school one would be sick but this tr-08 looks promising...
this VA reissue is still priced way too much... for 50 euro extra you'd get much more advanced analog Drumbrute.
can you tell me which one? I have no glue about some alternatives drum machines :)
Tr08 is totally crazy for the price , hold this shit 👍👍👍
Looks like a volca from the side
Guys, I really don't want to start the flame or something like this, but I have to say, the 09 and 08 are really great boutique things.
The others, meh, but these are there.
I mean, I know analog, I've built a lot of sh*t for my studio, from little pedals thru small noise boxes to large format modulars and outboards.
They sound amazing, yes, but if you really know analog, you know they could be a pain the as* to deal with. Noise, ground loops, heat(!) just to mention a few.
With these little boxes, you have a lot space left, they are not producing that much of heat and the most important, they sounds the same, always!
Honestly, you can't really hear the difference in a track...I think most of your fav. trap / hip hop / todays minimal techno tracks use samples only...
true, true.
Looks like my TR-09 is about to have a new buddy! PLEASE say the new boutique models all have separate power supplies and not just USB bus power.
but the new one doesn't have multiple outputs?
I love how they follow Egyptian Lover with Principleasureorwhoever
Every synth is only as good as the person using it. If you can't make great tunes with the new Boutiques... don't blame Roland!
+M. Woofington ...even though all the original instruments that inspired the Boutique series were used in 'Great Tunes' made by non musicians and DJ's (lol)
clown
or how about buy plugins that are cheaper, do more, sound better, and are not limited to the limitations of cheaply made overpriced hardware that tries to capitalize off of a dead era and piece of hardware that is utterly useless in the modern era of DAW's and plugins? if you spend $400 on plugins you can produce way better music than you would produce buying this garbage, believe me.
@@dirtyoliver1180 hands on producing is the only satisfaction of this. You just power on the device and play with it, DAWs just don't feel the same... And this comes from someone that learned production with Ableton and that is pretty poor! Haha
Very excited about this
I like it, but why not just make a real analog version?
Roland couldn’t manufacture the circuits anymore, which were accidentally damaged. Peace.
I wouldn't pay for analogue at all. Digital makes it smaller, produces less heat, eats less power.
@@encoderaudio, it’s just not quite the same, which is why the original machine is so prized! Peace.
Like you'd be able to tell the difference
The company says they are not chasing ghosts
www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/ds3zci/never_chase_a_ghost_roland_says_analog_remakes/
I want that hat!
yeah man, but will it put da BOOM BOOM BOOM in my 1985 chevy caprice dat be sittin high? know what I sayin?
OMG... that's awesome:)
yes on 808 day and im having one
I gotta have it. Bring on the boutique sp1200 plzzzzzzzzzz
I got the TR8-S I love the sounds but hate the plastic I'll have to get me this one for the unique sounds and metal which I prefer
Im so exited!
3:18 ""sounds better""
NO WAY!!!
Can you used this in a DAW?
yo where can i get that 808 hat Jimmy Jam is wearing?? I've been looking all over the web and can't find it. i want!!
I've noticed a reproducible glitch with my TR-08, what would be the best way to get in touch with someone to bring it up?
I'm trying to sync my TR-08 with my Korg Monologue, with zero success. Does anyone have advice on what cords I'll specifically need, and where they need to be plugged in? I'd rather not have to buy a Korg drum machine when I already have the TR-08. Obviously I'm new to messing with this technology, though I'm psyched to get deep into it.
Juan Atkins on board? SOLD
Did they run this video through Instagram?
As much as I like this, I gotta ask Roland this:
Aren't you kinda undercutting the TR-8 with this and the TR-09?
Also, if I could make a suggestion for the next Boutique, how's about a Boutique D50 or some other LA-based gear?
Never mind, they answered my prayers...
what about comparing the roland tr-08 hardwared with the vst?:))) is there any difference?
SOLD!
@rolandchannel will these new units interface with the mx1 via USB audio channels?
Does anyone know if you can do last step like the tr-09? For polyrhythms?
Can I control the TR-08 with a midi keyboard?
I need one round 2
0:22 instantly reminds me of Nine Inch Nails
Down in it...
what's the difference between this and the tr - 8
Clay Davis sound wise nothing
The TR-8 is a performance rhythm machine that melds the legendary sound and vibe of the TR-808 and TR-909 with features and functions for the modern age.
I notice it doesn't have individual outputs for the drum sounds like the original did. Are you able to do that through USB? Like, if I wanted to have each drum sound on its own individual track in my DAW, would I be able to do that without doing multiple passes and soloing the sound I want?
Yes, 10 or so individual outs via usb.
I wish it was a bit cheaper, so more ppl can have fun with it.
I asked this on another board but no one could answer my question. Basically, I need to know if you can use the TR-08 with sequencing software such as Cubase.
You connect the TR-08 via a USB cable to your computer. Once connected, in Cubase, in the audio settings, it should show up as a new sound device "Roland TR-08".. select it, and you will be able to sync and record it into Cubase.
And shows up as 10 individual outs via usb.
but how can you make it sound very very way more stronger
I'll be honest if it had individual outs id buy it. But it doesn't. The 707 was samples the individual outs make it a great machine. I actually think thats a bigger fault than making it digital with ACB.
When is the release date?
yeah new
I want to imagine I am working with the real Roland analog of in the 80's. Thanks Roland for failing me again with a toy.
im struggling to use the roland tr-08 as I don't know what cables I need to use it with Logic Pro X, all I got is the micro B USB, which is the power :(
1/4 inch audio cable probably. Into a mixer or audio interface
@@davidvnthony ahh ok thanks man :) i'll get that cable now
For the love of God Roland if you're not going to have a L/R out then at least put a quarter inch jack on one of these?
Much better idea would have been to build it as just a midicontroller bundled with a 808 software emulation for like $129. Not much sense in having the sounds in the hardware when they don't sound better than an average emulation anyway.
you really dont get it
@@Glol91ABC Wow, seems i was kinda angry 3 years ago, no idea why. I don't even remember having posted this or why i would have an opinion about it. Shows you how (hopefully) people can change. Thought about deleting my posts, but decided to keep them up as a reminder for myself :)
@@beatz04 Refreshing to see an open mind and candid honesty nowadays! Respect.
Interesting to see so many people talking utter shit all in one video!
No matter how great these things sound there will always be Virgins screaming "give me Analogue"
This looks and sounds fantastic.
But I have the TR8. So no point as I already have the sound
I don't think virgins can afford analog gear. More like virgin ears clicking around in a DAW going "analog sucks!!" lmao
Love the 808 but it might become a bit OD.
Can you play patterns manually using the pads in real time rather than recording using the step sequencer/ Thanks..
No you can't, but if you go into the MENU settings, and go to the "gain" option, you can adjust the volume of each of the sounds. In this mode, touching the numbered keys lets you hear all the different sounds. For example, pressing the 1 key is bassdrum sound, key 2 is snare, etc etc. In the step sequencer recording, you can use the TAP button on the machine to record in each sound "live". Put the machine in record mode, put the sound selector know to the sound you want, then press the TAP button to make your pattern. then switch to the next sound and use the TAP button again to record your pattern in real time.
Why is there no midi threw on any roland boutique products
It's soft midi thru, it'll still send the signal from the midi out port on the boutiques
Does the tr 08 has mute/solo functions?
Yes it does, you can mute and solo sounds
Infrarave
Uli Behringer, please build us a 400$ Analog TR -808
There is a DIY analog 808 called Yocto. If you know how to solder it will cost about it
all you cry babies dissing this need to wise up ... Roland will sell every single one of these produced without effort !
micro USB is a bit off putting, When broken it turns into battery powered with no separate outs. I doubt the micro USB will out live the System requirements for USB audio, The speed technology moves system requirements support doesn't last long. Better power input and separate mini jack outs would of past the test of time. Also micro USB is not something robust that you can gig with.
Agreed, but It’s easy enough to attach a short ribbon-style cable from microusb to something like a usbC female to increase longevity of the port… just attach the usbc cable/port to the side of the tr-08 and never unplug it from the unit (it would act as a new port). Of course usbc would have been better from the get-go, but it is easy enough to work around. JMHO.
Got that analogue sound 👌
I've searched online and I can't find how many patterns this thing holds. Are they ashamed of saying so? The TR-8 had a ridiculously small pattern bank for the price so I'm not hopeful about this one.
It’s 12 banks of 16 patterns each (192 total) plus another 4 banks of 12 for fills (48 total)…Grand total of 240 patterns.
Love the hate and i love the 808
how many patterns can it store
I'm not sure exactly how many, but as far as I know it can store at least 244 (12 banks with 12 patterns each)
I need me one of these. But I'm not spending $350 on it.
This is the shit!!!!! Ahhhhhh!!!
Haha, one guy says he wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the 808 and the 08, and another says the 08 sounds better 😂
Any one knows if these people were paid off by roland ??? :-)
Good query 😮
Should get Little Finger to play it
ADVERT ! :)
Too bad Roland didn't issue this at full scale size, you can see they can barely get their fingers on the knobs without reaching up and over and then down with needle nose plier precision really.....
......we can guess why, a full size issue would have to have a higher price point to maintain the current profit margin, putting it out of the gadget price range, gadgets sell like hot cakes. This would compliment the tempest as the only weakness with the tempest in my opinion is the lack of powerful sounding 808'and 909 kick drums....
Oh no separate outputs...
Yeah, but through usb you get 10 individual outs which is what many people use for things like logic… agreed that real out ports would have been nice as well.
Who cares if its digital or analog? you still get the sounds of the original but it also opens up a new dimension of sounds (maybe not for the drum machines and some other boutiques, but sh01a for sure). My only complaint is that the keyboard controller sucks and the buttons on the drum machines are wayyyy too small for random sequencing and quick changes. Boutique format for synths? maybe. Boutique format for drum machines? don't. just don't.
I get that sound on my Djembe, £80 + practice , if you want genius music technology - buy a djembe
real talk, no trigger zap sound im not fuckin with it
objectgroup haha! Gotta pump that trig. Nothing sounds like it. I've tried
objectgroup crap, I wish I would have tried that when I had mine.
There is the trigger out zap sound on the TR-08 actually.
👍
to small, no seperate outs, price too high...
+1 for the neat design though
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
Roland ditch the ABC time to go back old school analog...
how many outputs, only stereo? #FAIL
yup 100% at least have separate outs for the bass snare parts, don't need out on the others. reason I sold my TR-8 !
have you seen the size of it?lol
via USB you got individual outputs
put smaller jacks in it then 3.5 instead of 1/4 :) don't make a 808 that does not do what the real 808 did better, ok they say the sound is ni on perfect but its the little things that make the difference. then you don't keep saying " if only they..." I now use vst`s as selling all my hardware off anyway.
esener303 really ?
People spend 5 thousand on a new vintage custom shop Les Paul, why is it just not possible to do so with the Tr808 or the Junos and Jupiters? I think a new Jupiter synth with 12 Voices, VCOs, and maybe different VCFs, one IR3109 and maybe one Curtis type filter and a nice mod matrix for about 3-4k dollars would be the right path to go.. A piano player wants a real steinway, and a synth player wants a real Jupiter, Prophet,.. why is Roland just so lame..
Don't believe the hype
Eeeww Roland bring the game in another level
Mr. Karter Understand no
I do not understand this bashing against Roland, the engineers break their heads to offer us reissues at low cost, equally effective of legendary drum machine and synth that would mostly be unable to invest so much these vintage machines because they reaches prices to 4 numbers and we still makes picky eater.
Mr. Karter Understand Agree. Roland doesn't own us anything. They're offering some great sounding instruments for a low cost and this way more people are able to be creative with music.
UA-cam is full of haters on almost every vendor channel. Besides the hipster channels where the fan boys have their home.
Its 30 years too late guys ! It doesn't move the earth for us no more. Roland themselves provided those same 808 & 909 sounds on numerous other digital items since the 1990's. Roland should have simply reintroduced those original machines when they discovered so many types of music were using them. Roland would have sold every original reissued machine if they'd done all this 30 years back !
Wow why are people hating on roland come like them haters can make an 808 gtfoh KISS MA TEETH
old stuff not practical to integrate? BS! din sync, midi convertor etc
There doesnt seem to be any actual Producers here. Most of you sound like you can't EQ and compress and rely on already good samples to carry your sound.
"Egyptian Lover" lmao, lover of Egyptians? Lover of Egyptian origin? Both?
I bought this and a JX-03 and they were basically useless. $200-$400 toys. I returned both of them and got a Maschine MK3. Never looked back. And I still got 808s for days. 1/8 inch outs and mini usb were a HUGE mistake. Don't buy this.
Lol nothing new, just another cheap profit for roland.
When is Roland going to realise that these things are obsolete. I mean, i know producers like playing with them but do they really use one of these for a songs these days ?. It's better than a plug in obviously because it's got the original 808 sound but there is more advanced drum machines out there now.
... Funky Crumpet ... The age of hardware is over we old schoolers have to admit that fact
@@Shivotheque I admit nothing. ;-) Honestly the still make it because it sells. Hardware is king…Computers are great and respect to those who can get in the zone that way, but most people would prefer hardware if they had the money/space.
Thin. Pass.
Coming soon from the makers of quality Roland 'boutique instruments' is the TB-303/SH-101/Juno60/System700-100M/TR707/TR808/TR909, combined for your pleasure in a tiny box with pots and switches that would barely fit Trump's fingers. We've decided to bundled all the audio through a USB jack with no array of audio outs as we've decided to bundled all the audio through a USB jack which means using simple audio cables to quickly patch your 'boutique' brand with a range of other outboard gear will become a royal pain in the ass. But never fear, your new 'boutique box' makes all those bleeps or pads or beats or what ever it is that you've always coveted since you were a kid when you heard them on the seminal records you still hold so dear. So buy our new 'boutique' brand containing all the instruments you ever wanted to attempt to make music that sounds vaguely similar to the nostalgic records of your past.
Both Roland and Korg are pillaging their musical history with next no view of creating truly futuristic instruments that could create new sounds, that perhaps have ergonomic intuitive controls and are not just the same continual rape of our musical technological heritage. Roland, you have an unbelievable R&D department at 4141 Kiga, Hosoe-cho, Kita-ku, Hamamatsu, Shizuoka with some of the brightest minds in the field of synthesis, sound and electronics and yet you have them churning out cheap facsimiles of the past to line your coffers. And I'm sure they sell by the bucketload considering the second hand market for the originals, but as a whole has our music culture benefited from this cornucopia of copies?
Now I'm sure this is where fanboys of various genres will jump in stating that this band or this person is currently pushing the boundaries of music as we know it. And perhaps they are, good for them, but that's not my issue. My issue is with our music culture as a whole and it is stagnating. When the original 808/909s came out they revolutionised both hip hop and techno amongst a myriad of different forms of music. As mentioned in the promo video above the sounds were so futuristic that everyone became inspired to write and create new forms of music. Now those "futuristic" sounds are nearly 50 years old. What is so inspiring about that? All these machines pander to is the nostalgia of the sound itself, nothing more. We all borrow from those that have gone before, I have no issue with that, that is to a great extent how modern culture proliferates, be it music, art or literature, but it's only really in music where technological nostalgia stymies us so greatly, to some extent limiting our creativity and stopping us from pushing for a different, new cultural future.
Some people want to experience using iconic gear and not pay $4000+. I think it is amazing that Roland has re-created vintage drum machines and synthesisers so the new generation of musicians can explore and create. Roland is trying to give the new generation of musicians an affordable version of vintage equipment, not trying to re-invent the wheel. Why don't the people complaining about the poor build quality, size, no individual outs, etc just go and buy the original haha? I'm sure if roland made a complete replica of the original you would all still complain. Roland is giving musicians access to vintage sound and aesthetic, whilst allowing them to be compatible with modern equipment. They even gave us CV, Gate and trigger outs so at least some of us with vintage gear can sync with that.
I think in order to create a new sound you need to have an extensive knowledge of past sounds. At the time musicians were starting to use these machines (808, 909, 101, 303) they were trying to create new 'futuristic' sounds whilst referencing past sounds (disco, funk, soul, boogie). I think that allowing new musicians to have access to re-creations of these highly influential machines will allow new sounds to form, by taking inspiration from the past.
Music doesn't have to always be 'futuristic', most house and techno coming out of the underground at the moment is referencing 90's garage, Detroit and Chicago. I think that electronic music is no longer seen as being as 'futuristic' as it first was in the 70's, 80's and 90's. I guess this is just because, like you said, its been around for nearly 50 years. Music is different for everyone and by assuming music culture is "stagnating" because "you've heard everything and it all sounds like shit because new musicians just rip off old stuff" is fucking dumb.
+Uremawife Nowdave How exactly is Korg pillaging its musical history ? By giving us back it's MS20 and sequencer? Korg is quite smart for reproducing the Arp Odyssey as it's originally from a different manufacturer altogether. After 20 years a patent expires, so technically, Korg could reproduce a full sized full analog TR808, 909, Jupiter8 etc. Don't you think they'd sell ? I think Korg would laugh Roland straight into bankruptcy !
I wish someone would put this Roland company (under it's current leadership) out of it's misery - it's a serial fail !
Watch out for Behringer though, they're already taken the Juno106, the Model D Minimoog and the Curtis 3340 VCO chip ! What next ?
Uremawife Nowdave You.,Sir,have made the Best Art Related UA-cam Comment EVER....I have no words...it's not a mere Comment,it's basically a dissection of all thats stalling modern music composition/ingenuity from a very long time,hats off!
It is to big! make it smaller