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  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. There has been a lot of talk about the more recent Boutiques, the JD-08 and JX-08 lately but today we are going to talk about the Roland Boutique TR-08. Can this miniaturized TR-808 clone provide the true vintage drum machine feel.

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  • @secretelitemusic
    @secretelitemusic 2 роки тому +181

    A drum machine without the option for shovelling the outputs through a mixer and fx/comp/gates etc is a royal pita. And those nanopots are made for Playmobil peeple. Apart from that, it's a lovely coffee table conversation piece.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +18

      That sums it up perfectly!!!

    • @secretelitemusic
      @secretelitemusic 2 роки тому +17

      Also worth pointing out that a Behringer RD8 is around half the price of the TR-08 new.

    • @alexwestconsulting
      @alexwestconsulting 2 роки тому +9

      @@secretelitemusic no it isn't. this just isn't true. tr-08 goes readily for $400 USD and the RD8 is on sale (rather perpetually) for about $329.

    • @secretelitemusic
      @secretelitemusic 2 роки тому +14

      @@alexwestconsulting
      They're 200-225 sterling here. So it is true.
      You're welcome to pay as much as you like just to prove your point. The shipping and taxes you pay are mostly related to protectionism and a large ocean.

    • @jethropayson9509
      @jethropayson9509 2 роки тому

      @@secretelitemusic never protect anything

  • @LuMartinelli
    @LuMartinelli Рік тому +35

    That 808 kick on the built-in speaker had me laughing for longer than i care to admit

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂

    • @eamonmcdonough
      @eamonmcdonough Рік тому

      Can't you go to midi though and enhance it?

    • @darinz7182
      @darinz7182 Рік тому

      same. I was expecting to be underwhelmed, and the delivery of the underwhelmingness was perfection.

    • @sullycliftona
      @sullycliftona 7 місяців тому

      @@eamonmcdonough good question maybe a Arturia might change it bstep pro

  • @coffeematt
    @coffeematt 2 роки тому +93

    Oh man, all the robots in the final jam with your head on them are absolutely hilarious. What an age we live in.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks! The age of AudioPilz Robot Takeover;)

    • @autecheee
      @autecheee 2 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz …that’s why you were able to go outside as an Austrian without a mask and break quarantine. Are you not man, you are bad (gear) robot!

  • @fkthewhat
    @fkthewhat 2 роки тому +18

    It’s difficult to grow tired of such a clean and ‘simple’ sounding drum machine. I have a diy ‘yocto 808’ clone that I spent a week soldering together. Nothing was more rewarding than firing it up for the first time and hearing that kick clap and snare knowing you worked so hard for it. Then the boutique came out, then the Behringer. But I’ll never part with something I spent so much time on that is uniquely mine!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Nice! Thought of building one myself too

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic 2 роки тому +130

    Yeah! Something I own finally made it onto Bad Gear!
    Aside from that Korg Super Drums thing. But we don't talk about that. At least not in front of the children.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +9

      Just saw you using the 08 in the Korg/Arp vid - great stuff

    • @Beaufort-Wes
      @Beaufort-Wes 2 роки тому +4

      Sometimes the conservation of future classics starts at the beginning... look forward to your review of the then classic TR08 in 30 years :)

    • @matthewdeward1984
      @matthewdeward1984 2 роки тому +1

      what dont you own? ( jk G,a,s is real!!! You have an amazing set up g, love your music)

    • @kristianTV1974
      @kristianTV1974 2 роки тому +12

      Would like another Audiopilz vs. Alex Ball crossover please!

    • @0xABADCAFE
      @0xABADCAFE 2 роки тому

      @@kristianTV1974 yeah, that was great.

  • @MikeKasprzak
    @MikeKasprzak 2 роки тому +37

    I have no idea how much time you spend on your videos, but your aesthetic of inserting gear into old movies, and those robots (what?!), is such fun. :D

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +18

      Thanks! It has turned into a full time profession

    • @christiantorma2440
      @christiantorma2440 2 роки тому

      oh ja 😎🤘

    • @RodBeauvex
      @RodBeauvex 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz What is the movie at the beginning?

    • @sporn23
      @sporn23 2 роки тому +1

      @@RodBeauvex look like a Conan version, mixed with THE epic movie Vibration!?

  • @ashfaq1999
    @ashfaq1999 Рік тому +13

    Definitely not bad gear !! Had an original 808 back in the day. This is good enough without paying a fortune for an original today.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому +2

      👍

    • @ashfaq1999
      @ashfaq1999 Рік тому

      @@AudioPilz welcome.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar 9 місяців тому

      Can't get it to show up in any DAW (Mac) for. The multi outs/ins. Any suggestions?

    • @ashfaq1999
      @ashfaq1999 Місяць тому

      @@rachelar Get the roland tr8s which is good enough. If you are using software get the roland I cloud version which sounds good. The original 808 is a classic but too expensive & not worth the £3000/$3000 plus for it if you’re just after the sounds. I replaced my 808 with the the rebirth 338 software version in 1996. Wasn’t disappointed at all.

  • @thealmightycommenter
    @thealmightycommenter 2 роки тому +32

    Best part of a Friday ❤️

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      TGIF❤️❤️❤️

  • @fretbender101
    @fretbender101 2 роки тому +9

    Bad Gear, I'm totally inspired by your videos. They are definitely informative but, more importantly they bring a smile to my face often. Keep it up!!! You have a definite gift in effective communication and without doubt have helped many in determining what gear may have a positive benefit if they were to be incorporated into their own set ups. Much of my studio would be considered obsolete or outdated but I become encouraged when I see these items showcased on your channel. There is no Bad Gear only a failure on the operator to find it's potential. :-)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      So happy to hear that, thanks!!!

  • @wellbi
    @wellbi 2 роки тому +7

    That clap at the end of the intro tells everything needed.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      I really liked that clap tbh!

  • @samjones4570
    @samjones4570 2 роки тому +10

    I appreciate the time you put into making these, once again another brilliant vid!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @Arehexes
    @Arehexes 2 роки тому +8

    Even on my day off, I have to make sure I squeeze this fantastic channel into my day.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      So happy to hear that, thanks!

  • @System.10
    @System.10 2 роки тому +9

    Amazing video as per usual! As always, the wordplay was absolutely on point ("more rover"), and the jams were awesome, especially the first one. I've got to say, I'm impressed by the sound of this unit, those bass drums have tons of low end weight, and to my ears, it sounds pretty authentic!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! The sound quality was not an issue on that one

  • @samuelwnovak
    @samuelwnovak 2 роки тому +3

    The average frequency of hella dank memes/second in your videos is something we should all aspire to. The Meme Gods bless you 🙏😇

  • @BoomBubbleBustRepeat
    @BoomBubbleBustRepeat 2 роки тому +15

    Today at my therapist I will be discussing the effects of having to see every piece of gear I own on episodes of Bad Gear from Audio Pilz... ouch.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Question: is your therapist a Behringer fan?

    • @BoomBubbleBustRepeat
      @BoomBubbleBustRepeat 2 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz Dr. Uli is what I call him.

  • @autecheee
    @autecheee 2 роки тому +3

    2:16 meme will be shown to my son today!!
    You packed the memes dense in this one, I have to rewatch your episodes at least twice at slower speed to absorb them all! Watching it once doesn’t have the impact.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Bad Gear isn't necessarily a linear medium;)

  • @ThinkerThunker
    @ThinkerThunker 2 роки тому +4

    I recommend that you do a behind the scenes look at JUST HOW MUCH WORK goes into your videos. I see camera and motion tracking used, masking, etc ... And then just the amount of time and research it must take to track down all the little snippets you use.
    Them there's the music you produce, using each piece of new gear you review. Them the sheer amount of time it must take for one man to edit it all together.
    Well done my friend. You're videos are legendary. Or will be :)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much!!!❤️❤️❤️

  • @superchroma
    @superchroma 2 роки тому +13

    I would pay real money for an album of stuff like Jam 1. So good. 👌

    • @sullycliftona888
      @sullycliftona888 9 місяців тому

      I wouldn’t I’d borrow it and re mix it . On a fake boutique

  • @PK-ct1bm
    @PK-ct1bm 5 місяців тому +1

    Well, well, well. In June, my Re-808 will arrive. Thanks for the entertaining, brilliant as usual review anyways!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  5 місяців тому

      Thanks!!! Nice one!!!

  • @darwinsaye
    @darwinsaye 2 роки тому +17

    I think the D-05 was the best boutique offering. It wasn’t digital trying to be analog. My understanding is that it was pretty much identical to the original, other than the small size.

    • @roxyamused
      @roxyamused 2 роки тому +3

      Totally thought so too, but now that they stopped making them and used prices have shot up, I’ve got my eye on the new boutique jd-08. Has a bunch of controls like the original and bitimbral too. When I saw it on this episode I was intrigued and am amazed to find out it’s true. They’re beasts.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yeah, that one seems to be quite authentic!

    • @Gtunes39
      @Gtunes39 2 роки тому +1

      I passed over 3 different Boutique models new/used over the years but immediately went for the D-05 when I saw one used in a shop for this exact reasoning. Never regretted it; sounds good and fits that sonic niche, has all the original sound card patches thrown in, and it talks to most patch editors well. My only lament is that it's a little lacking in MIDI implementation.

    • @rachelar
      @rachelar 2 роки тому

      @@roxyamused just get a D550? Buy mine?!

  • @trevypoos
    @trevypoos 2 роки тому +3

    "Moreover" made me laugh out loud, thank you for that.

  • @Halfpipesaur
    @Halfpipesaur 2 роки тому +10

    4:35 - the mighty built-in speaker. I swear the membranes in these are made of the thinnest candy wrapper they can find (and volcas are even worse)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      True that!

    • @BxCx666
      @BxCx666 2 роки тому +3

      They're very convenient in case you wanna jam in dead forest or giant empty oil tank like everybody often do.

    • @min-yishen9324
      @min-yishen9324 2 роки тому

      the built in speaker pecking order: monotron < pocket operator < NTS-1 < Volca < Roland-lito

    • @recap_after_use
      @recap_after_use 2 роки тому

      This is something that will never stop confusing me. I mean, the parts cost money and it should be pretty clear by now that no one wants/needs/likes this speakers. If you really want to jam on the go, you just plug an external box to it. Why not use the spare cash to implement something useful?

  • @sullycliftona
    @sullycliftona 7 місяців тому +2

    Drums. On the second jam were nice 💯( I bet two years later u know it’s worth every penny )

  • @kevinbirge2130
    @kevinbirge2130 2 роки тому +68

    It doesn't sound bad. But I would choose the fully analog Behringer clone over it, all day and every day. Always wondered why this was produced when the TR-8 was already filling that niche.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +15

      I think they made shiploads of money with the "authentic" looks;)

    • @maxmaxmax4015
      @maxmaxmax4015 2 роки тому +7

      The Behringer clone is pretty good. The inbuilt filter and compression alone make it great for live play!

    • @lovelost28
      @lovelost28 2 роки тому +3

      @@AudioPilz Juno G flashback, looks like a Juno but ain't nutting like a Juno

    • @anthonybrett
      @anthonybrett 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly, because the truth is, the TR-08 is running the EXACT same code built into the TR-8 and plugin.

    • @wolfgangdevries127
      @wolfgangdevries127 2 роки тому +6

      Because hipsters buy anything labeled as "authentic". Even if it is just software in a neat little hardware package.

  • @No_thanks780
    @No_thanks780 2 роки тому +6

    "Moreover"...picture of a pack of dogs. Well played sir 😂

  • @BeniRoseMusic
    @BeniRoseMusic 2 роки тому +8

    I love that they put the trigger out on this thing, but didn't make the Juno boutiques capable of triggering the arpeggiator with the External Clock inputs. Must be different departments!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +3

      At least the TR-08 has a trigger out;)

  • @Psychlist1972
    @Psychlist1972 2 роки тому +2

    I lol'd so hard when you played the kick on that little speaker. Brilliant. :)

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup Рік тому

    Dude the video edits at the finale section had me weak. Really funny.

  • @krudler406
    @krudler406 2 роки тому +3

    dude you are massively entertaining - keep it up!

  • @YUSSEB8E
    @YUSSEB8E 2 роки тому +5

    The editing in your videos is outstanding 😂

  • @davegrimes3385
    @davegrimes3385 2 роки тому +1

    The whale was so subtle and had me laughing out loud. Hats off to you sir!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Save the whales!!!

  • @kasparvise1385
    @kasparvise1385 9 місяців тому

    I usually have already bought said bad gear before seeing your awesome videos

  • @recordsandsunsets
    @recordsandsunsets 2 роки тому +5

    Dude your graphics are ace! Always makes me giggle.

  • @michaelthorpe1379
    @michaelthorpe1379 2 роки тому +3

    i love your channel - thanks for the good work!

  • @Necroblas
    @Necroblas 2 роки тому

    3:36 "Compressor that does absolutely nothing but make stuff louder."
    I have been suspecting my Roland keyboard of this for a while now so thanks for practically confirming it.

  • @laurencevanhelsuwe3052
    @laurencevanhelsuwe3052 2 роки тому +1

    Forget the review itself.. this video is worth watching for the humor alone.

  • @Lalaland.001
    @Lalaland.001 2 роки тому +4

    But seriously I would like to buy an entire album with the complete works of all episode, a collector's edition so to speak. With a hoodie, a T-shirt and a cassette and/or digital download. I would buy it the moment it came out, yesterday, on backorder...Hope this dream of mine can become true one day...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      I have to be careful what I'm teasing;)

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 роки тому

      just out of curiosity, whats ur cassette deck?

    • @Lalaland.001
      @Lalaland.001 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz OOOOOOOHHHHH, tell me more please...

    • @Lalaland.001
      @Lalaland.001 2 роки тому

      @@mycosys I have a multiple, one is the infamous Nakamichi BX-125E
      , a Denon DRS-810 and the last one is an heirloom from my granddad a PIONEER CT-F1000 I kinda have a thing for tape...Love the sound of it, to me it sounds better then reel to reel, but that's probably because of nostalgia...

  • @ToumalRakesh
    @ToumalRakesh 2 роки тому +9

    I don't get the boutique hate. I *love* my D05. Not only does it sound amazing, it's 100% accurate to the original, to the point where some of my really glitchy patches from the original work perfectly.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +5

      That one is a completely different beast

    • @MaximilianoSchneider
      @MaximilianoSchneider 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I love the boutiques. They´re not perfect and they´re getting better with every new generation, but the experience of interacting with something inspired in a vintage gear is there, but there´s a lot of snobbism in the synthesizer community, and digital is a bad word, Volca, Boutique... and nobody cares what other people thinks if the instrument is good for you. I see a lot of people complaining about the size, but boutiques are sound modules, so of course you will need a controller. Maybe for live situation they´re too small, but again, Roland never sold the boutiques for a live situation, they´re selling this line as sound modules for the studio. At the same time, a lot of people complaining about the boutique or volca size and they love Eurorack so basically some people wants to look more smarter than other or they just love trolling. And they{re not expensive. A VST insturments is around 150, an audio interface probably the same money, and if you add a hardware controller with knobs and sliders (even when they´re small), they´re not expensive at all.

    • @Goettel
      @Goettel 2 роки тому +1

      The Tr-08 is just a plugin in an overpriced box though.

  • @olsonwaters4116
    @olsonwaters4116 2 роки тому +1

    i literally had to pause the video cause of how hard i was laughing when that external speaker kick hit. god damn it shouldnt be that funny lol.

  • @funkuncle999
    @funkuncle999 Місяць тому +1

    LOLed at the massive kick out of speaker.

  • @lowking7235
    @lowking7235 2 роки тому +4

    I have an TR-08 and a MPC ONE. I can create complicated hi hat rolls in midi and send them to the 808 which sound gnarly. But honestly I'd say its limitations offer some creativity.

  • @superikone
    @superikone 2 роки тому +9

    Would be interesting to see it in an Audiopilz-style comparison with the big B‘s RD-8.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +8

      Still haven't taken a closer look at the B portfolio. It will finally happen

  • @Raiment57
    @Raiment57 2 роки тому +1

    'more-rover' tickled the hell out of me! Thank you.

  • @MajorMacca
    @MajorMacca 2 роки тому +1

    "More Rover" - I just died...

  • @hubbarao
    @hubbarao 2 роки тому +4

    Last week I asked for more boutiques and Florian delivered :D do you feel huge when you play it?? That tempo knob is GINORMOUS
    So funny how small the other encoders are, seeing it next to the TB-3 really puts it in perspective for me. Reminds me of Volca encoders

  • @annother3350
    @annother3350 2 роки тому +23

    This should go for £200 max. Personally i think if you're going to make a tr808 nowawadays every sound should have much more extreme tweaks -- pitch and length etc

  • @vinniramos
    @vinniramos 2 роки тому +2

    HAHA I loved the STRYPER pic!

  • @cooptrol
    @cooptrol 2 роки тому +1

    wow first time i see a sponosor embedded in the bad gear script :) good for you!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Bad Gear is not gonna pay itself;)

  • @ericvernooij2917
    @ericvernooij2917 2 роки тому +41

    Unpopular opinion maybe, but I love the Boutique range. They're just so adorable! Mind you, I only own the TB-03, but I'm currently knitting a little hat for it.
    With the SP-404 mk2 out, have you ever done the SP-404 range? I have the 404a, and I love it to bits while also hating its guts. As an effects box it's genius, as a sampler it's fun, but making something complete with it is frustrating.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +10

      I'd love to see the Boutique hat! SP-404s are on my list - I'll have a closer look, thanks!

    • @atomicafro
      @atomicafro 2 роки тому +3

      Super noisy inputs as well.

    • @ericvernooij2917
      @ericvernooij2917 2 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz The only UA-cam video on my channel is also the only thing I have actually managed to kind of finish with the SP-404a. In my garden, with a complicated beverage...

    • @myautobiographyafanfic1413
      @myautobiographyafanfic1413 2 роки тому +2

      @@ericvernooij2917 I think that's mainly just our fault. The sp404 distracts you so easily with all its features. I think if you put your mind to playing, and stop creating samples you can do something.
      Someone called it the strat of samplers, like a guitar, I don't think it's meant to be played on its own really.
      Creamy track tho.

    • @min-yishen9324
      @min-yishen9324 2 роки тому +2

      Imagine a boutique SP-04 with 12 tiny drum pads...

  • @MathHammer
    @MathHammer 2 роки тому +8

    The TR-8S is a fantastic drum machine (IMO). I would just save up and go for that one.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +3

      I really enjoyed playing the TR-8 too

    • @r0ck53n
      @r0ck53n 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Indeed, if one was to be chosen for Bad Gear it should be the TR-8S, which is not an enhanced, but in strange ways restricted version of the TR-8 if you leave away the sampling.

    • @Elctrc
      @Elctrc 2 роки тому

      I had the TR8 before and I somehow regret that I have sold it for the TR8s.

    • @synkuk
      @synkuk Рік тому

      @@r0ck53n why would you say that ? have felt the TR8S has been a worthwhile update, yes you loose the scatter control knob .. but you gain in so many other areas, samples, FM WAY more effects.. can go on ..

    • @synkuk
      @synkuk Рік тому

      @@Elctrc why ?

  • @smellymala3103
    @smellymala3103 2 роки тому +1

    That’s why my Friday was wack, I missed bad gear!

  • @MaxZorin8
    @MaxZorin8 2 роки тому +1

    TR-08: "Ok, so basically, I'm very smol..."

  • @Dudderlyful
    @Dudderlyful 2 роки тому +6

    I'm not sure I'd even consider it if it weren't for the the rear speaker, indispensable.

  • @EarmonkeyMusic
    @EarmonkeyMusic 2 роки тому +14

    FWIW, I've never used one of these, but I do have an original TR-808 and have put the Roland Cloud 808 (which theoretically should sound pretty much identical to the ACB hardware) up against the original. If I give it a bit of thought (and add a bit of saturation plugin), I can create a "digital" 808 sound that is nearly indistinguishable from my 41 year old analog machine. I mean, you could give your money to Satan and get an RD8 I suppose, and maybe that Buli machine has an edge in performance just due to size and format. But in the studio, I don't think you're missing much soundwise between this thing and an original 808.
    Also, keep in mind, that the OG 808 is kind of a pain in the ass to use and has very few features. It would have been nice to see this 21st Century update at least include a "tune" function. Alas, you're probably better off with a TR8 or TR8S.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      True that! I usually just use a sample;)

    • @23bit76
      @23bit76 2 роки тому +6

      Be careful, you'll have the analogue originals UA-cam gang upset. According to their superior ear and tone detection they'd hear the difference immediately on any given recording.

    • @EarmonkeyMusic
      @EarmonkeyMusic 2 роки тому

      @Chris Cheltenham hahah!

    • @EarmonkeyMusic
      @EarmonkeyMusic 2 роки тому

      @@23bit76 I think there are far fewer of those people than people think. Analog Originals provide a benefit which is different from the final sound, as most of us who own them know.

    • @rodmorrison47
      @rodmorrison47 2 роки тому

      As a former 808 owner I'm happy enough with my TR-8. Effects, tweakability and just a couple of assignable outs - that'll do nicely.

  • @birdie17uk
    @birdie17uk 2 роки тому +2

    The return of Robo-Florian. My day is made.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Robo-Florian Takeover!!!

  • @normdurkin6425
    @normdurkin6425 2 роки тому +1

    ..you will never run out of Bad Gear videos professor as long as Roland doesn't go out of business..

  • @defiantDreemurr
    @defiantDreemurr 2 роки тому +3

    i feel like the “too small for live use” is the only real issue it has, and it’s also the only thing i don’t really make use of with mine because i use mine for entirely different purposes. to me it sounds fine, and the USB out doesn’t bother me as a mac user. a lot of people talk about the RD-8 being both better and cheaper but the TR-08 being as small as it is made it the better choice for my setup since it sits nicely on my desk easily within reach without taking up too much space.
    i also don’t entirely mind it not having more modern/anachronistic features since i picked mine up intentionally because of the sequencer being more accurate to the original. if i want more modern 808 sounds and a more modern sequencer i have plenty of options in the box for that.
    enjoyed the video tho, i love your channel cause you take honest looks at gear and try to find where they fit into your own workflow, and i appreciate that honesty much more than the legions of nerds that just complain about “oh it’s small and digital” even if a lot of the things that were negatives to you were positives to me.

  • @retrigger_
    @retrigger_ 2 роки тому +4

    Why don't you make an episode about the OG tb303? I know I am not going to make many friends here, but the thing doesn't have midi, it's a pain to program and tune. It's a very simple synth for the price...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +5

      Next April 1st is a Friday;)

  • @jason3898
    @jason3898 Рік тому

    6:13 "You can use it's multiple outs to MIDI Gate (mitigate) this problem" made me snort so hard, my kid woke up. The pun doesn't really make perfect sense so I'm guessing it wasn't even intended as one, but I got a few seconds of joy out of it anyway.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Рік тому

      Not intentionally but sorry for disturbing your kid;)

  • @RaffRobinson
    @RaffRobinson 2 роки тому +2

    The « How I became a DAWLess Jammer » 😭

  • @StrayBoom
    @StrayBoom 2 роки тому +6

    How many takes does it usually take to get the finale's genre-title right?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +7

      ONE!!! ;)

    • @StrayBoom
      @StrayBoom 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz Of course, the best ONE :)

  • @Mik3l24
    @Mik3l24 2 роки тому +3

    Likely unpopular opinion, I vastly prefer the sounds of every other x0x over 808. (606 especially, it's so nice and soft when used in a chillouty song). Although it's the signature part of it, the kick is just too bassy, even in the unmodded version.
    Though I'm not a fan of most of the genres known for the 808, so I guess it's just a matter of my taste.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      I feel you, it's just everywhere. I still like it a lot tbh

  • @caseTelevision
    @caseTelevision 2 роки тому +2

    Your editing and delivery are hilarious 😂

  • @KooriGraywolf
    @KooriGraywolf 3 місяці тому +1

    This has gotta be one of my favorite 3rd jam genre names so far

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 місяці тому

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @SisterRose
    @SisterRose 2 роки тому +10

    i'm in kind of an awkward position since i don't really have space for a big 12 channel mixer, so ideally with a drum machine I'd want a lot of processing/effects options built in. Because of that I've never really found an ideal Drum Machine for me. I do like my Volca Drum quite a bit but being limited to 16 Patterns with no fills is a crime.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +9

      Have you ever thought of getting one of these small Allen&Heath mixers? Decent EQs and FX with nice routing options and VERY small footprint for the feature set

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 2 роки тому

      Build your patterns in-the-box!

    • @ActionlessLoveless
      @ActionlessLoveless 2 роки тому +2

      tr8s which was already mentioned in this episode should be sorta able to, but more generic samplers like digitakt or mpc would better do that job for the same money

    • @federicogalland
      @federicogalland 2 роки тому +3

      Have you considered getting a groovebox for drum machine duties?
      Something like an electribe2, digitakt, mc707 or the like?

    • @MatthewChristianMurray
      @MatthewChristianMurray 2 роки тому

      Sample-based stuff has its own limitations, but I heartily recommend UVI’s Beatbox Anthology 2 software. I have their Vintage Vault 3, and Beatbox may well be the single strongest part of the collection. Over 100 machines sampled, and you can mix and match sounds from different machines to your heart’s delight. It has effects, but they can be turned down or off.

  • @TyCrawford
    @TyCrawford 2 роки тому +3

    Having grown up learning to sequence on a TR505 and not really spending much time in the electronic or hip hop scene, I've always hated the 808, I've never understood it, and I'm tired of being at the gas station and hearing 808 beats with what must be 64th note hihats blasting from shitbox SUVs. That being said, I'm glad Roland has offered it in this module series, which overall I'm coming to enjoy (the JU-06A is a killer unit that makes a hardware Juno accessible and easy to integrate into an automated DAWless rig), and I wouldnt mind if they brought back the 505 with some improvements as well.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      It's more like BMW limos over here;)

  • @olav7
    @olav7 2 роки тому

    Bad Gear + Roland = A good start to the weekend.

  • @quietandpeacefulman
    @quietandpeacefulman 2 роки тому +1

    The ‘moreover’ gag deserves special mention here. 👌 Coffee just came out my nose.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! Coffee is for drinking, y'know;)

  • @_ElektroSchmutz_
    @_ElektroSchmutz_ 2 роки тому +3

    I feel like the tr-6s must be coming soon…. The over reliance of menu diving and small form factor.. all the classic traits of a modern Roland instrument.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Great suggestion, thanks!

    • @rorz999
      @rorz999 Рік тому

      Don't forget the tiny screen 😂

  • @expedisound5094
    @expedisound5094 2 роки тому +3

    For 50K subs why dont you team up with Groove Bagasch Sound system and organize a Bad gear freeparty!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Great idea but only about 0.00000001% of my viewers are in Austria;)

    • @EmilianoGuevara
      @EmilianoGuevara 2 роки тому

      Now, THAT is an idea! Make it happen in the summer!

  • @arcadeuk
    @arcadeuk 2 роки тому +1

    "more Rover" made me laugh more than it should have 🤣😂

  • @johnwilmarth833
    @johnwilmarth833 2 роки тому +1

    Passing thru Vienna right before the lockdown, staying at brillantengrund. There’s a party in the courtyard tonight, swing thru!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Damn, missed that one! Thanks, though

    • @johnwilmarth833
      @johnwilmarth833 2 роки тому +1

      By the time I got back from observing high level Catholicism /organ shredding at the cathedral and slamming back mugs of punsch at the xmas market the party had dwindled to one awkward cadre of gentleman standing under a disco ball in complete silence. It was terrifying and I’ll see you next time!

  • @arcadely
    @arcadely 2 роки тому +5

    £400 for one of these feels pretty steep as well. If you want an 808-alike I'd say either save up the extra cash for the TR-8S (I love mine despite its limitations), or - and I feel perhaps a wee bit dirty saying this - save yourself £100 - 150 and buy a Behringer RD-8. The reality is the latter is really good at being a TR-808 clone for a lot less dollarpoundeuro than the TR-08.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, temptation is strong;)

    • @Goettel
      @Goettel 2 роки тому +2

      Plus the RD-8 is superior in every regard.

  • @zk351
    @zk351 2 роки тому +4

    Imagine, a modern Roland drum machine with individual outs...I can dream

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      The TR-8 had 4 - does that count?

    • @zk351
      @zk351 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz yeah, it does the job, still just something that would be nice.
      I say this with my TR8 used entirely with USB audio only......but, hypothetically, if I had a big mixer...oh the possibilities

    • @norbertonucagrossa
      @norbertonucagrossa 2 роки тому +1

      Tr8s has 6. Beast

    • @zk351
      @zk351 2 роки тому

      @@norbertonucagrossa oh gtfo, how am I just learning this now? Thank you, as if I needed another reason to want a tr8s

  • @tree_relics
    @tree_relics 2 роки тому +1

    This was really funny! Socially acceptable Tuesday hangovers we're overrated.

  • @BillyBatsonMarvel
    @BillyBatsonMarvel 2 роки тому +2

    I ❤️ my TR-XOX boxes: 08,09 & 06, the sequencers on them are my holy grails.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      I liked the extended pattern length on the 08

    • @st0rmchild
      @st0rmchild 2 роки тому +1

      I have and love the trio as well. I thought I'd never be interested in a 606 boutique but they managed to come up with a bunch of interesting new features that made it worthwhile after all.

  • @alexwestconsulting
    @alexwestconsulting 2 роки тому +3

    I'm a big fan of acb. Much more so than rompler based synthesis. But I don't know why anyone would buy a TR-08 when the TR-8s isn't that much more cash (used anyway), but I actually like the very small form factor of the boutiques. Anyway, I'd never use this except for fun. Way better overlapping gear out there like the Elektron Rytm or Jomox stuffs. Why haven't you done a vid on your Jomox yet? That thing is classic "bad gear". So frustrating to use in a way, so limited (by design, but so dialable relative to other kick generators), but the results are so glorious.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      There's some truth to it. Thanks for the input!

    • @st0rmchild
      @st0rmchild 2 роки тому +1

      I went with the TR-08 + 09 instead of a TR-8S because I can use all the sounds simultaneously (the TR-8S lets you mix and match but has a max of 11) and I love the classic look and workflows. The tiny knobs don't bother me at all, but then I'm not trying to do Jeff Mills style performances on them either. That said, I wish the TR-08 had a mute mode you could lock into instead of the two finger contortion.

  • @terriblecj
    @terriblecj 2 роки тому +3

    Please try to do the TR-606 next or in the future. They are still cheap enough and no one seems to like them at all....perfect for Bad Gear! I like mine a lot, $25US on small town craigslist! Also, what do you edit your videos with? They are great.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Hasn't the TR-606 become a completely overpriced iconic piece of gear? FCPX (which I hate with a passion;)

    • @terriblecj
      @terriblecj 2 роки тому +1

      @@AudioPilz dang, I hadn't checked prices in while.....still cheaper than an 808..

    • @a_nick_t
      @a_nick_t 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz why do you hate FCPX? I’ve been making my living editing video for over 40 years and I wouldn’t use anything else! 😆👍🏼

    • @darrenbrown7134
      @darrenbrown7134 2 роки тому

      Or the TR-626! I bought mine on a small town craigslist for under 40! Love the dedicated outs.

  • @martinlopez2955
    @martinlopez2955 2 роки тому +1

    i forgot I watched and liked this video awhile ago, im glad I rewatched this LOL

  • @manfrombiysk
    @manfrombiysk 2 роки тому +2

    Yeahhh nine minutes of pure delight

  • @Yuzuki1337
    @Yuzuki1337 2 роки тому +4

    Next time please do a sound warning when you play such a massive kick through the built-in speaker, you nearly knocked all my furniture over :(
    Edit: Seeing your face pasted all over things is too funny, the spiderbot just killed me - AudioPilz stickers when? :D

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Damn, I forgot about the trigger warning;)

    • @st0rmchild
      @st0rmchild 2 роки тому +1

      SpiderPilz FTW

  • @Diskoboy1974
    @Diskoboy1974 2 роки тому +3

    Traded my TR-08 and 09 for a TR-8S. Having the legacy TR models in one piece of hardware just seemed like a no-brainer.

  • @TheRemixGeneration
    @TheRemixGeneration 2 роки тому +1

    At the first glance I didn't know what I was looking at, but then I realized I clicked all the boxes and came top bad GEAR! woohooo

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yeah, a mighty ole boxticker!!!

  • @csabakerekes3848
    @csabakerekes3848 2 роки тому +2

    Let's face it......sooner or later everything will show up in Florian's hands....it's just a matter of numbers.....;) Waiting for the Moog One !
    Great show though!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Thanks! I tried but not every piece of gear is ticking all the boxes;)

  • @carlosserrano3985
    @carlosserrano3985 2 роки тому +5

    I'll take the Behringer RD-8 a 💯 times instead of this boutique 808, I really don't understand why Roland is doing that, is not that hard for a big company like them to bring back their products.
    If Dave Smith of Sequencial wich is a smaller company compared to Roland brought back the Prophet 5/10, why Roland can't, and don't forget Korg with ARP comebacks.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      The RD8 seems really tempting

    • @carlosserrano3985
      @carlosserrano3985 2 роки тому +2

      @@AudioPilz Yes, and not only that, is cheaper and have individual outputs and sounds great, Behringer Is doing what they don't have any interest to do and for haters, don't blame Behringer for cloning stuff from Roland either.

    • @sporn23
      @sporn23 2 роки тому

      @@carlosserrano3985 I got TD3 its a full plastic cheap box compared to their Crave, but sound like it need to, and the menu commands are, like the old tb 303, and... still a nightmare for beginers, like good old games very hard.

  • @CaptainAlbatross
    @CaptainAlbatross 2 роки тому +5

    Never has gear given me so much “vst-in-a-box”-feeling than the Boutique series. That, and the fact that adding just a single output to this drumbox should be punished by law.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I would have taken even ADAT;)

    • @CaptainAlbatross
      @CaptainAlbatross 2 роки тому

      @@AudioPilz With a SCSI zipdrive for added storage. ARGH!

  • @fatheroflies
    @fatheroflies 2 роки тому +1

    audiopilz is secretly young smoke

  • @maxricemusic656
    @maxricemusic656 2 роки тому +1

    Oh boy, I love me some "robo bass subwoofer benchmark retro hightech UK juke house friendly electronic takeover", a very underrated electronic music genre (yes I will keep making this joke, mostly to help your algorithm, keep it up!!! this show rocks!!!)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      I bought an obscure "robo bass subwoofer benchmark retro hightech UK juke house friendly electronic takeover" sample CD back in the 90s;)

  • @theidealcopy_
    @theidealcopy_ 2 роки тому +4

    Never seen the appeal of the TR-08. It's always seemed massively overpriced considering it's running the same OS as the big AIRA with most of the functions locked off, and there are so many multi-sample packs available at various price points including half-decent ones for literally nothing. I do prefer using hardware in general but ultimately once it's in a mix with other stuff are you really going to be able to tell enough of a difference between this and a sample pack to justify a £400 price tag? I'd say probably not. IMO Roland really dropped the ball with the analogue revival considering what brands like Korg and Arturia have been able to do with *actual* analogue hardware at reasonable prices over the past five years.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +1

      The TR-08 is a nice conversation starter though;)

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys 2 роки тому

      @ghost mall they have lost the institutional knowledge to produce analog instruments. Hence the SE collaboration

    • @sappyse107
      @sappyse107 2 роки тому +1

      I saw it on the wall at Sweetwater and I can't imagine thinking it has no appeal. Its beautiful.

  • @guysmiley7289
    @guysmiley7289 2 роки тому +3

    Aim those lasers at Uli. He definitely makes things that are worse than the TR-08. 100%

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому +2

      Still discussing with my lawyers how to approach this;)

    • @birdie17uk
      @birdie17uk 2 роки тому

      I'd take an RD-08 over the TR-08 anytime. 100%

    • @guysmiley7289
      @guysmiley7289 2 роки тому

      @@birdie17uk That was not my point at all but I am glad you like your toy.

    • @birdie17uk
      @birdie17uk 2 роки тому

      @@guysmiley7289 I don't own one, but I tend to prefer stuff that is, you know, usable. What was your point exactly, 'cos your comment about Uli's 'toys' seems to indicate that I entireley understood you the first time. Whatever, gear snobs are quite welcome to pay through the nose for actually crappy bad gear so long as it is 'authentic'.

    • @guysmiley7289
      @guysmiley7289 2 роки тому

      @@birdie17uk Dear diary...

  • @c0ldcity
    @c0ldcity 2 роки тому +1

    Two jams? Ambassador, you are spoiling us

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      There's a third one on my Patreon (shameless plug;)

  • @gelatinous6915
    @gelatinous6915 2 роки тому +1

    The 8s is fucking legendary. All the TR sounds, a really nice percussive FM engine, 8 assignable outputs, and some pretty damn nice fx.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yeah, that one is a nice package

  • @2point7182818284590
    @2point7182818284590 2 роки тому +2

    Whenever I visit UA-cam on late Friday, the first suggestion is ticking all the boxes.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      That Asian street food compilation?🤣🤣🤣

  • @robertordonez9242
    @robertordonez9242 2 роки тому +1

    “When being hungover on a Tuesday was socially acceptable”
    lmao

  • @s.fleming2441
    @s.fleming2441 2 роки тому +1

    i burst out laughing when Stryper appeared there for a second XD

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      These guys were looking sharp;)

  • @ArekArciszewski
    @ArekArciszewski 2 роки тому +1

    The moment with the kick blasting out of the speaker made me laugh so hard I cried

  • @GordonBraicks
    @GordonBraicks 2 роки тому +1

    The first time I just forgot to listen to the music in the ‘finale’. Had to watch it again after laughing my ass off that funny part. :-)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      That's an important part of my strategy;)

  • @pfaprado
    @pfaprado 2 роки тому +1

    The Worms reference caught me off guard :D

  • @HisXLNC
    @HisXLNC 2 роки тому +2

    I like to think of the entire Roland boutique line like the little plates and spoons my grandmother collected from the different places she vacationed. They’re just fun to collect and look at. Except the D-05. That one is probably the truest to the original.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Yeah, the D-05 is most probably an improvement;)

  • @marcopaganotto9125
    @marcopaganotto9125 2 роки тому +1

    Hung over on Tuesdays was socially acceptable 😂
    I remember those days well 👌

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 роки тому

      Not only acceptable but expected;)