Ultra Deep Clean with Sonics - Building a simple Ultrasound cleaner -
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2016
- They are used for cleaning jewellery, for mixing chemicals- all sorts. Anything you put into the tank gets vibrated at very high frequence - in this case, 28,000 times a second.
Ultrasonic cleaning is the rapid and complete removal of contaminants from objects by immersing them in a tank of liquid flooded with high frequency sounds waves. These non-audible sound waves create a scrubbing brush action within the fluid.
The process is brought about by high frequency electrical energy that is converted by a transducer into high frequency sound waves - ultrasonic energy. Its ability to clean even the most tenacious substances from items derives from the core of the unit: the transducer. The cleaning power of a unit stems from the transducers performance.
The efficiency of the transducer will affect both the cleaning time and efficacy achieved during the cleaning cycle. A poor quality transducer will use more power and take longer to clean items than a good transducer. The ultrasonic energy enters the liquid within the tank and causes the rapid formation and collapse of minute bubbles: a phenomenon known as cavitation. The bubbles rapidly increase in size until they implode against the surface of the item
immersed in the tank in an enormous energy release, which lifts contamination off the surface and innermost recesses of intricately shaped parts.
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Would have been nice to see results of a cleaning. I'm trying to decide if I should build my own because I need it to be an odd dimension 12"x8"x6".
you are awesome , simple and concise
Just one question...does the vibration start as soon as you plug in the PCB board into the power outlet or do you need to send a signal with a microcontroller first?
The 4 important questions not answered by the video are:
1: How much did it cost?
2: Did it work?
3: Did the epoxy hold?
4: If it has failed, for how long did it function?
Checkout The p!ssed alignment workshop they made one for about £8 I tried it and it works
@@theorignalsprout That thing with a vibrator? Yeah that's not an ultrasonic cleaner. It just agitates the parts and cleaning solution. That's all.
EDIT: I now understand how ultrasonic cleaners work. There is no need to keep replying to an old comment with information of how it works. Thank you!
@@soundfxasmr I mean there's also the whole cavitation thing an ultrasonic cleaner does.
@@soundfxasmr check out this video instead ua-cam.com/video/_RWleDI764w/v-deo.html for a clearer demonstration of cavitation
I would have liked to see the foil test on that. I got the impression the bubble size would be large for that, depending on frequency. I would have liked to see the sien wave on an oscilloscope also. Was that a switching power supply? What toatal voltage was that powersupply rated at? I wouldnt use a teflon coated pan eather. A simple aluminum pan would have worked better. Where did you get the Transducer? I wouldnt mind making my own. I didnt see any way of controlling the wave being made by the transducer, can you buy something that can be adjusted?
very straight foward thanks for sharing!
Nice system. Can you adjust the amplitude and the power? Is there any system to monitor these parameters?
Thanks
when you meter the output driving the horn, what are you seeing for voltage/amperage? Will the output drive a lightbulb as a test or to load the horn? Thanks for sharing.
thanks for talking! a rare thing on youtube. iv just made one with the same kit. i didn't know how to stick it to the pan. ps. don't hold the transducer in you bare hands when its running ..ouch
Great video - thanks! My driver board didnt come with the female primary power lead / connector, I'm looking for that connector. If you know which one it is I''d appreciate it!
we bought this type of card and we want to build an ultrasound,
the board (pcb) fails after a couple of minutes, and 220V charge stops working
the circuit works because if it is tested with a new card, it works only for a few minutes.
the question is whether this type of card is designed to work continuously or only for a few seconds
P.S. the card is cooled by a fan does not exceed 36C
Thank you.
Hello, Greetings from Peru, good video, could you help me ?? I want to make a cleaning tank with 70 Khz transducer, the use I want to give it is to clean vinyl records, can you tell me where I get all the parts, some link ?? aliexpress ebay, etc.
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Nice video. Have you ever measured what the output voltage is of the driver board ? Is it
somewhere around 250VAC, 40Khz ?
He said 28 khz. Voltage I guess should be around 100v
thank you for a great video! if you are using a metal pot for the parts to be cleaned, what type of items can be cleaned in it? is there a special liquid, non-conducting, for cleaning PCBs? thank you
Hello. Did you drill the pot when you combined the pot with the ultrasonic vibrator?
Did anyone else think this was actually Michael Caine?
There are quite a few similarities now that you mention it!
yes right after he started talking.
Good job!
I'm going to be trying to amplify the power to 600w..
How do you do that? Do you just amplify the board or do you amplify both the transducer and the board?
what is that center pin part for on the other transducer that was not installed?
Hi, how much power did the apparatus consumer I, V and Watt/hr?
Wondering if it would be good enough for physical therapy...strong enough to break up scar tissue.
Can I use all these electronics on a pot that would be 1.5 ft diameter and about 2.5 ft tall. I need to clean a outboard engine block???
Need to do the same....
Can this be used to make a directional sound gun or does it go to all directions?
I have the transducer and the driver board. But I don't know how to power up the driver board and the connection from driver board to the transducer. Is there any tutorial video on solving my problem?
Did you ever figure this out? I am confused about the same thing
were can i buy all this link please
If i were to use a cleaner like this with a cleaning alcohol that's flammable, could the cavitation effects ignite the liquid?
No
Hey, i love your work, but now can you help me or tell me if its possible to make an Ultrasonic homogenizer from taking apart an ultrasonic cleaner, and fashioning what i can to make it? lol or will a dremel work to help emulsify what i need? with emulsifiers of course? but for an average ultrasonic homogenizer that mixes from.1 to 100ml is 2200 american so i cant afford it, but i was thinking, wouldnt it be possible, to use the sameidea of this?
Yes you could... a modification would be to mount a probe onto the horn and immerse that into a beaker.
did you drill a hole in the center of the pot or is that your center mark?
It is a centre mark
untrasonic cleaning simulation 3d or cruit on computer? pls help me
Did you ever add rubber isolation feet/mounts? Seems like it'll vibrate the shit out of the surface below it. Metal legs on a metal table = headache.
Thankyou for the video , would you please share what type of epoxy you've used for this job?
JB Weld is good!
I would pick something with as little damping effect as possible. Perhaps some really hard (not flexible) one. Hope it won't be too brittle.
Hi, I want to build a 20L ultra sonic cleaner for cleaning game console mainboard, can you help me to find out about how much power I will need? don't know much about ultrasonic cleaner.thanks in advance
I want to make cleaner 25"x10"x10" using more transducers. to buy very costly
In the wide end of the transducer, there is a threaded hole into which a grub screw locates. What is the function of this grub screw?
You can tune the horn and - you can use it to locate a horn on a surface.
Mounting
I am building one with a foot massage machine, after look your video, how good will be a depth finder transducer, have selectable frequency
I used Poxipol glue (24h) but when i started first using it just peeled off:( Of course i used sand paper before.
Would have liked to known more - so I clicked the link, the website now redirects to a scam about Dick Smith (a legitimate Australian inventor and businessman). Hope you get it fixed soon as my friend and I are wanting to build a much larger ultrasonic cleaner and looking for ideas.
Thanks!
excellent video ... where do I get the drawings to make the electrical part for a welding system for ultrasound plastic ... for your collaboration thank you
do you know what the little screw on nipple is for?
LOL, I love that question......he put his finger in the water?? How do you expect him to know the screw is for mounting
Gonna make one too! What are the plus and minus poles for the transducer?
It's like a solid-state loudspeaker- these particular transducers are not polarity sensitive.
Ah oke thanks! first one was broken got no output voltage :( Cant wait for the second one to arrive!
If you build one with multiple transducers commonly driven I think you may want to look at relative phase.
Can you say which controller you are using
How was it wired?
Would tacking or welding the transducer to the pot ruin it?
Possibly a bad idea. I have modified the system since building it, the pan is now pressed onto the transducer with some springs. This is because sometimes I use the transducer set-up with a flask (full of solvent and tiny metal parts) spring-loaded directly onto it.
Well presented and spoken. A few questions remain regarding cost of components, etc. How well did it work and how well did it hold up. Enjoy that simple midi track in the background. Thanks!
Right. For something that small, you have better luck buying and it will cheaper too!
@@JodBronson to be fair this was also published 4 years ago. Also good to have someone show how to fabricate. But agree it's probably more cost effective to buy.
@@kallisti_gold - 4 Years or 10 years, that doesn't matter, as you can see. Even 4 years ago, wouldn't it be better today that we can do a DIY and it will be cheaper?
@@JodBronson if you buy the components to build, yes it will be cheaper and you can choose size of the container.
You just HAD to stick your finger into the water; DIDN'T YOU...
Middle Finger !!!
Is it bad?
@@user-sm8wo3dj5z its either warm or hot
Can you provide me the data I mean circuit diagram
So surprised at some of the comments below. I'd have thought that the video was clearly self explanatory.
Martin Moore a whole lot of stupids everywhere
Do you have genarator circuit or gerber files ? Thanks
Hi enjoined your video but one thing you didn't say how much it cost you to build.
30-65$ far as iv seen on ebay
Check out the site Banggood.I have a ultrasonic cleaner that does not work.Fuses are ok.However the pan is made out of aluminum and the transducers are eating up the pan.Any ideas on what to check and how?
www.banggood.com/AC110V-Power-Driver-Board-2Pcs-50W-40KHz-Ultrasonic-Transducer-Cleaner-p-1070692.html?rmmds=search
Wahnfried Duke: Hint: "...the pan is made out of ALUMINUM..."
Mainboard has 230v plug. Why are You using external transformer?
The external transformer powers the cooling fan... a bit obvious really.
Thanks for the nice video! I was wondering wether your setup is still working, as some research shows that those Chinese driver boards are useless and just about all burn out. As far as I could find out the transistors blow before the fuse goes. I just made a setup with a 100W, 48Khz driver board and 2 transducers in parallel, and something blew within 10 seconds. Haven't figured out what yet, but not the fuse. I have to check the transistors tomorrow. Could it be that those boards can't handle 2x 50W transducers, even though the are sold as a set? Oh and I DID fill the tank with water first before switching it on and I also had a fan running for cooling. Anyone sudjestions for me? It is very much apreciated.
the thing is with boards, you can simply replace components that 'burn out'.
oatstao That wasn't really my question.
As the author states... the drives are often poorly specified. Use a 100w horn with a 50w driver not the other way round as they are sometimes sold. Even attach two horns.
What did it feel like to dip your finger into the bath?
It burns. Water particles vibrates intensively which create energy. If you stuck your finger long enough into the water, guess you will have finger broth.
Soo... a dc motor vibrator that turns ~25000-30000 rpms would kind of work?
Yup
im little lost you power the boad with 240v why the 12v then ?
From what I gathered, the 12v power supply was only used to power the 12v DC cooling fan on top of the case. The 240v AC would have been used to power both the 12v Power supply and the Transducers driver board.
Quite right - the 12V supply is just a little cheapy to run the cooling fan and power the 'on' LED. I like the LED since I often have other noisy stuff in my lab (vacuum pump, air compressor, cooling pumps) so it saves me forgetting it.
The total build cost was (from memory) around US$100 or less, including the driver board, the 12V supply, fan, box and saucepan.
Hi there, do you sell these already made and wired? I no nothing about electronics so am after something already made that I can simply plug in and get working. Many thanks.
Be careful with your fingers while the ultrasound is on. Its detroying your boxes, bonemarrow. Nice video thanks
For something that small, you have better luck buying and it will cheaper too!
Hm, so in theory I could make a big tank and use 3 of them with 1 circuit board? Damn, combined with some heating elements and some Arduino, it could be a real competitor to commercial versions.
Yea, cost + labor would be almost the same or even less.
Zulus, fasonds off em.
Can't believe you touched it. I've made that mistake before 😨
Adie Warren what happens
Clean fingernails.
Ive put my hand inside the water while running. Probably my tank is bad, parts dont clean good anyways
So did it twerk or no go?
What? Building up at the end of the month,, ? Your channel has no content and you no say..
So, the water gets hot?
Yes, the energetic process actually does warm up the water a bit.
Molecular friction
I thought u go to the moon after touching that ultrasonic water
Did it shock him when he touched the water? Several online claim you can clean your hands using this?
You seem to have built 2 systems - one with the transducer epoxied to the bottom of the pan and one where the pan simply sits on top of the transducer which is mounted in a perspex topped jig, The latter is the one which was demonstrated in operation.
Questions:
Why was there a hole drilled in the bottom of the pan on which the transducer was epoxied?
Why was this unit not shown operating?
It is usually not recommended to operate the transducer in an unloaded situation. Manufacturers of U/S cleaners always state that fluid must be added to the tank before turning on the transducer/s because the lifetime will be reduced markedly when operated unloaded. The jig mounted transducer you demonstrate opens the possibility of unloaded operation purely due to oversight in not mounting the pan and filling it with fluid..
In my experience general purpose epoxy as used in your video is not really suitable for transducer mounting. It softens readily when heated and the transducer can become detached. When that happens sparks can fly...literally.
As supplied the transducers come with a short threaded stud. This is intended to be used where the user has the facility to thermo-weld this stud to the bottom of the panel to which the transducer is fitted - simply by screwing it onto the stud. Epoxy is then generally used to ensure the transducer does not unscrew during operation.
Manufacturers (Chinese) of U/S cleaners use an epoxy such as 3M DP460NS but this is not generally available, is very expensive and requires a special applicator gun to ensure correct mix ratio.
I find that Dynasteel Epoxy Paste www.supercheapauto.com.au/Product/DynaGrip-QuickSteel-Epoxy-Paste-56g/1972 is a very good alternative. You will just need to find a local supplier. The 260 degC rating of this epoxy will be important where you are also fitting a heater element to the pan along with the transducer.
The transducers are a capacitive device but they generally do have a nominal +ve and -ve terminal. The +ve terminal is the one sandwiched between the 2 ceramic discs. Conversely the -ve terminal is the lower one which is in contact with the aluminium cone at the bottom of the transducer. Polarity is important where transducers are to be connected in parallel.
it's the same system. the transducer(epoxied to pot) is lowered into the plexi stand( w/ hole.) as he states @ 4:39
It looks to me that he built one device, and was just demonstrating how to goes together. The pan didn't have a hole drilled in the bottom, just black marker.
There was no hole in the bottom of the pan. He stated he marked a spot with a sharpie so he can find the middle of the pan. I thought the same thing till He said it.
Ross Herbert ive read that an epoxy should have a ratio of 10:4 for transduces (im assuming resin to hardener) ( i have very little experience in this topic) why do you chose the quick steel epoxy? Im curious because i need to pick one for my diy ultra-cleaner, parts come in on Friday
ALSO i have found no information on this; when using epoxy to secure the transducer what do i do with that metal plug that screws into the resonating diaphragm of the transducer? Do i leave it out? Would that unbalance the transducer? I don’t have an oscilloscope so i cant do tests and nobody talks about it.
Great content but the music is distracting.
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Hi i have the same kit, is it possible to use 2 transducers on 1 driver ? and how should i wire it ? thanx
ua-cam.com/video/ht25HLPSux0/v-deo.html
Your link redirect to spam ad sites, too bad you didn't posted the specs and links where to look for the circuit board, specially.
Also we can't learn how to put all the electronics together.
Such a shame.
Sucks his websites been hacked :(
How do you connect this circuit to the wall?
The 2 (1) broken Wires are in the input.
Alfred?
Go vid, but shame about the music
Yes. A real pain in the astricle. Why is it needed ?
That music is anointing as neck
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Man, sorry but what a useless video. You did not show any building method. By the way vibrating water so close to electricity is a disaster waiting to happen.
He did show you how to build it. Sticking your hand in there for a short second will NOT harm you !!!