When i discuss this helmet for my Indonesian viewers, I was attacked by the users and the sellers and i have no choice to delete the video because they think it cause drama.. Fake helmets are dangerous And most people who bought them only use their egos..
Well, there was no mention about some sources of gray market goods. Real goods with real quality can move also from one market area to another. Or wholesellers, distributors etc. having excess inventory or reducing stock, bankruptcies of shops or middle-men (auctions) etc. Exhibition/sales samples. Goods coming from all these sources are legitimate high quality goods, just cheaper than usual.
pffyespff yep, I was disappointed that he didn’t mention that point because it’s the most common source of grey market products. He might be showing his retailer bias - they hate it when consumers buy products outside the local distribution channel so he’s hoping to scare consumers away from using anything except the official local seller.
Grey market items are usually the exact same product sold for way less markup in countries that are not as well off as most of us. My company bought some oddly cheap Cisco network gear once that we found out was unable to be used in the US. We had to pay a "re-certifying" fee before they would let us pay for support.
@@pffyespff I need to find these XD Wanting all this great protection you see on adventure rider videos, but then the price tag is damn near the price of the bike they ride.
I'm in love with motorcycles since I was 15 (27 now), but I would still love this channel even if it talked about tables. The quality of the content is great, and the way they present it is even better!
I love how they don't shameless plug their own store. They could have easily said "we only sell genuine products" and no one would complain, but they didn't.
A thing to add with that final Grey market story. Sometimes factories mess up or some textiles and materials are a bad batch, so instead of tossing them and wasting those materials they'll "Throw them out" for another factory (Typically with all the same workers just on the night shift) to go dumpster diving and finish off the products with the bad materials and cheaper nuts and bolts and made with less time and care put into them. Or sometimes they're just straight up reject jackets that instead of destroying it finds it's way online.
Ryan feels like he has the experience and knowledge of somebody who has been in the industry for 40 years. And the filmmaking and acting/speaking skills to match.
Ryan you are a legend mate. Your vids are so informative and entertaining. It's so great to see the studies and lengths you go to to inform your audience. Many of us have been following you for a long time and it's awesome to see how far you and your team have come. Keep it up!
I have never in my life even touched a motorcycle, and probably never will, and yet I really enjoy the content on this channel and watch every video haha
I wish I could like this video more than once!! Not only do they bring an excellent message (shocking to know that some people will ride with those unsafe products), the way it is given to us is just breathtaking! A big thanks to all the people involved in making the videos for this channel!
Thanks for shedding light on this topic! Youre absolutely right about what happens at the factories overseas..I work in the garment industry and this stuff happens all the time.
The production quality in this video is honestly mad 😂 fair play, great video and really gotta commend the effects and attention put in to make it so dramatic 👌
First off, thanks for another excellent video. Loving the material produced by Fortnine. Secondly, huge thumbs up for including scenes from the short horror movie "Bobby", originally a part of the "Dead of Night" video that scared my 12-year old self thoroughly. Truly as terrifying as knock offs, fakes and grey market m/c gear!
Thanks for covering these categories Ryan. Keeping in mind, this analysis and product categories exist for all other products and not just motorcycle equipment. There are similar cases but not as dangerous. Clothing stores that sell overrun or irregulars in the attempts to recover some cost of manufacturing where there was a mishap in final production phase. I.e., TJ Maxx, Marshalls, Ross, etc.
I'd say buying brand name overstock for plain clothing is fine, because a production defect there would only lead to a $20 genuine Ralph Lauren polo looking slightly off. But when safety is concerned... there's no compromise. Just like you won't skimp on brake pads or seat belts, your moto gear is there to save your life if you hit something solid at high speed.
Ryan could have a full hour prime time tv show, he's the best gear reviewer hands down and every video he's ever done is super informative AND entertaining.
FortNine doing the job of any country safety organization ! Promoting good and genuine garnment for motorcyclists ! ...and teaching us to spot fakes ! Thank you ! You're doing a dirty but valuable job !
Yet again, fantastic information for the consumer, with excellent production value. You guys really know how to make an entertaining video! Keep up the good work.
Dude. This is the most well-produced, entertaining, creative, and informative video I've watched in months. Well done, sir. I am continually impressed with the quality of your content. Also, that knockoff helmet was scary. Basically nothing more than a studio prop. Yeesh.
Man, you keep on surprising us with great videos! Love how you sprinkle in some season's theme to spice things up. Very creative and entertaining - you could make videos of paint drying and I would watch...
Your videos are interesting throughout. The quality of detail, editing, and production value is incredible. I love watching you videos. As a newbie to motorcycling, I appreciate your advice
@@shawnjawanda3663 but is there any kind of label that says... "yee it's the real deal but you know... from that lost airplane on the Pacific" kind of thing? No?
tamboleo not really dude. As Ryan said you can’t tell which is which without buying it first. That’s how they trick you. You’re better off spending more on a legit piece of gear so you know for sure it’s proper
Very clearly presented without making a feel like skipping even a few seconds of the video too, and yes these fake things are all over the world competiting with the price tags which looks genuine but are not compromising the quality of it when its actually required. This video is a great presentation 👏 kudos.
I really enjoy the great content. Well thought out and developed. However, I also enjoy simple videos, such as the videos you used to do comparing you favorite riding boots for whatever year.
I work in the apparel industry. ALL OF THESE STORIES REALLY DO HAPPEN... ALL. THE. TIME. Great video! Great editing! Great production value! Very entertaining!
The people who sell fakes and the people who make fakes should be held accountable. A new rider or a naive person could die because of their greed. Excellent video.... And people don't lie idle, report these fakes o9n ebay and bootleg sites, It's usually a click on ebay, facebook and all the rest of the mind numbing social crap.
Not just motorcycle gear, I bought a lens online from a legit source its suppose to be a USA lens, came in the mail I went to register it on the manufacturers website like I do with all my camera stuff, it comes up as a gray market. The seller made good on it and got me the right product. I just hope the Alpinestars Goretex boots I paid almost 300 bucks for are legit. The one 👎 must have bought one of those fake Rossi helmets.
Ryan: can I golf club the expensive helmet? F9: Prove your point by telling half the story club the cheap one only. Ryan: Someone will notice! F9: it’ll be fine
I am investigating the market for my 1st bike, and of course all the equipment that is imperative to wear, to be safe as possible! I went to a local small shop, to see a Honda CB650R, new (I know my way with cars, and I am sick of secondhand car issues, and I guess with bikes are the same, but much more exposed if something goes wrong!) But the guy was pretty vague, I had to interrogate him, and still I wasn't sure about boots, trousers, helmet, etc. And I look funny on the 650R, because I kinda look like I wanted to get a horse, but I got a donkey, referring to size. I find your videos very helpful, and I enjoy watching you! I want to thank you for your hard work! And When I see that YammyNoob is referring to you as a achelon, and I enjoy them too, it's clear that you are at a professional level. Keep up the good work! I salute you!
Nice golf swing! Great form with that 5 iron shot to the fake helmet. Very much enjoying your channel the last 3 weeks as I recover with a broken ankle from my DRZ 400 due to the wrong boots. Gonna buy some Tech 7s when recovered thank to your review.
Great video! Wonderful production. Only thing I would suggest is to have a text of ‘original’ or ‘fake’ at every scene you show -for easier comprehension (as you did with the egg)
This is excellent work. Solid research, great production, outstanding delivery. Consistently high quality videos. Informative and entertaining. Well done.
I love the attention to the quality editing and movie making
Agreed! Thanks again @Fortnine
Yeah 100% agree! The Halloween theme on this video was so well done!!!
Blows me away. Actually scarry. Why don’t they ever credit the creative team behind the channel? Not cool in my books @fortnine
Julian Pbt wnyone know what’s up with the crappy quality of last week’s video?
Still better than the quality of that knockoff
When i discuss this helmet for my Indonesian viewers, I was attacked by the users and the sellers and i have no choice to delete the video because they think it cause drama..
Fake helmets are dangerous
And most people who bought them only use their egos..
Nothing wrong with a little drama unless it becomes violent.
Gus Ali At least you tried bro, some times the stupid...just don't want to be helped or educated.
Halo bang Gus ali
Eh ada bang gus ali
Wah malah belum nonton, pas tau beritanya malah udah ke hapus videonya bang Gus Ali, upload lagi bang penasaran soalnya hehehe
Those grey market stories were really fascinating
Well, there was no mention about some sources of gray market goods. Real goods with real quality can move also from one market area to another. Or wholesellers, distributors etc. having excess inventory or reducing stock, bankruptcies of shops or middle-men (auctions) etc. Exhibition/sales samples. Goods coming from all these sources are legitimate high quality goods, just cheaper than usual.
pffyespff yep, I was disappointed that he didn’t mention that point because it’s the most common source of grey market products. He might be showing his retailer bias - they hate it when consumers buy products outside the local distribution channel so he’s hoping to scare consumers away from using anything except the official local seller.
Grey market items are usually the exact same product sold for way less markup in countries that are not as well off as most of us. My company bought some oddly cheap Cisco network gear once that we found out was unable to be used in the US. We had to pay a "re-certifying" fee before they would let us pay for support.
@@sentienthamster Oh, and that luxury "back-door" fee.
@@pffyespff I need to find these XD Wanting all this great protection you see on adventure rider videos, but then the price tag is damn near the price of the bike they ride.
The production value is too damn high
it is fucking beutiful
the very first thing i thought myself!! ryan its getting out of hand! soon we shall have fort nine michael bay videos
@@deathbyyamaha3834 implying it's not already better than anything Michael Bay puts out nowadays
Every damn time
It always has been
I'm in love with motorcycles since I was 15 (27 now), but I would still love this channel even if it talked about tables. The quality of the content is great, and the way they present it is even better!
I have never touched a motorcycle and yet I love this channel
Abdulkader Ajlani You need to get one and live my guy
J G Maybe the foldable white ones?
@@ExclusiveGrant
If I move to another country I might, but the roads where I currently live are too dangerous for motorcycle s
J G nice nice, those are good tables too!
I love how they don't shameless plug their own store. They could have easily said "we only sell genuine products" and no one would complain, but they didn't.
ikr
probably a reverse psychology....just like how I'm replying your comment for the second time :)
A thing to add with that final Grey market story. Sometimes factories mess up or some textiles and materials are a bad batch, so instead of tossing them and wasting those materials they'll "Throw them out" for another factory (Typically with all the same workers just on the night shift) to go dumpster diving and finish off the products with the bad materials and cheaper nuts and bolts and made with less time and care put into them. Or sometimes they're just straight up reject jackets that instead of destroying it finds it's way online.
"The sexy wrappings of an Italian lingerie are replaced with your granpas boxer shorts" 😂😭😂
Best line ever!
This guy know's what he talking about
And those effects are superb
@J G yeah sorry typo errors
"Scary" good content as always. Happy Halloween!!
"More shades than Dakota Johnson herself can handle"
FortNine throwing shade
50 kinds of it to be exact
The best youtube channel bringing us more quality content!
"they just have Rossi spit on a carbon fiber sheet and this is what grows" I died lmao
Ryan is absolutely the best UA-cam host and content provider ever!
I teach photography and film on my channel but dang. Imma just quit now 😂 This is so well produced
I must be the only one who thought it was annoying.
@@shoechew yes
All of his videos are. Check out the $400 bike 400 km video. It's even better.
Ryan feels like he has the experience and knowledge of somebody who has been in the industry for 40 years. And the filmmaking and acting/speaking skills to match.
Ryan you are a legend mate. Your vids are so informative and entertaining. It's so great to see the studies and lengths you go to to inform your audience.
Many of us have been following you for a long time and it's awesome to see how far you and your team have come. Keep it up!
'Because shit happens'
Ryan, 2019
Come on F9... do more, we need more..... I had to re-watch all of the clips from 3 years ago, to get trough the day. please make MORE!
I don't think I can sleep tonight. Can you leave the light on and give me my Shoei to snuggle.
I have never in my life even touched a motorcycle, and probably never will, and yet I really enjoy the content on this channel and watch every video haha
When ya get older, try riding one man!
Its fun.
But youll need to get used to it quite a bit.
I wish I could like this video more than once!! Not only do they bring an excellent message (shocking to know that some people will ride with those unsafe products), the way it is given to us is just breathtaking!
A big thanks to all the people involved in making the videos for this channel!
Thanks for shedding light on this topic! Youre absolutely right about what happens at the factories overseas..I work in the garment industry and this stuff happens all the time.
"Yet on the dark corners of Alibaba, we see the ghosts of these overruns popping up for sale" that gave me a good chuckle. 😄
You get what you pay for 😉👍
mr lightmode im a fan
unlike your products?
Not always true, Harleys cost like 30k
You god dam right ...
**cough** iphone **cough** over price garbage sell to narcissistic idiots **cough**
The production quality in this video is honestly mad 😂 fair play, great video and really gotta commend the effects and attention put in to make it so dramatic 👌
First off, thanks for another excellent video. Loving the material produced by Fortnine. Secondly, huge thumbs up for including scenes from the short horror movie "Bobby", originally a part of the "Dead of Night" video that scared my 12-year old self thoroughly. Truly as terrifying as knock offs, fakes and grey market m/c gear!
Definition of quality over quantity: fortnine
Yılmazov it’s fantastic!
Sophie the gorgeus tanklady said "quantity is a quality of its own" :D
The production values are just of the charts as per usual. Keep up the good job!
Thanks for covering these categories Ryan. Keeping in mind, this analysis and product categories exist for all other products and not just motorcycle equipment.
There are similar cases but not as dangerous. Clothing stores that sell overrun or irregulars in the attempts to recover some cost of manufacturing where there was a mishap in final production phase.
I.e., TJ Maxx, Marshalls, Ross, etc.
I'd say buying brand name overstock for plain clothing is fine, because a production defect there would only lead to a $20 genuine Ralph Lauren polo looking slightly off. But when safety is concerned... there's no compromise. Just like you won't skimp on brake pads or seat belts, your moto gear is there to save your life if you hit something solid at high speed.
@@Stoney3K Stony unfortunately this extends to parts as well. Look up fake NGK spark plugs.
@@paulaus Fakes are different from overstocks.
I have no doubt in my mind that FortNine is one of the best content creators on UA-cam. Superb story, cinematography & editing. Simply brilliant!!
Ryan could have a full hour prime time tv show, he's the best gear reviewer hands down and every video he's ever done is super informative AND entertaining.
FortNine doing the job of any country safety organization !
Promoting good and genuine garnment for motorcyclists ! ...and teaching us to spot fakes !
Thank you ! You're doing a dirty but valuable job !
Yet again, fantastic information for the consumer, with excellent production value. You guys really know how to make an entertaining video! Keep up the good work.
The art and storytelling that goes into these videos is amazing, wow.
Amazing Video and as usual Outstanding Quality. Thanks for being so consistantly amazing.
FortNine production quality is through the roof! Amazing job on these videos guys, keep it up!!
the Stranger Things type music kicks in, I was like oh shit, then Ryan said it. Love the quality dude XD
Dude. This is the most well-produced, entertaining, creative, and informative video I've watched in months. Well done, sir. I am continually impressed with the quality of your content. Also, that knockoff helmet was scary. Basically nothing more than a studio prop. Yeesh.
I wanted to watch this video but it was to scary for me
Seeing Ryan without a head? My worst nightmare
Amazing cinematography, great details on the selected content, superb execution all by Ryan and his partners. Kudos to u guys
This production quality is the Yeeh to my Haw.
Writing, acting, editing, originality, value of the information and advices... this channel is just outstanding!!
Less of a UA-cam video more of a Hollywood movie 🤣 can legit watch these videos over and over again.
You always amaze me. How you can make ANYTHING interesting. Love your videos.
Amazing quality as always. Hands down the best motorcycle channel on youtube.
Man, you keep on surprising us with great videos! Love how you sprinkle in some season's theme to spice things up. Very creative and entertaining - you could make videos of paint drying and I would watch...
*I legit got goosebumps while watching this...*
You guys are MASTERS of making a mundane subject utterly fascinating and entertaining. One of the best channels on youTube!
4:31 "...sexy Italian lingerie are replaced by your grandpa's boxer shorts..." ROFLMAO!!! That killed me 🤣😂🤣
One of the BEST moto channels on UA-cam!!!! Bravo Dude!!
Just awesome...loved the analysis, tips, and scary movie/show references!
Your videos are interesting throughout. The quality of detail, editing, and production value is incredible. I love watching you videos. As a newbie to motorcycling, I appreciate your advice
I actually found this super informative..never really knew the differences between everything. Love the camera work too,great job as usual!
Ok so how can i access to this grey market?
It's for a friend.
Lol
Alibaba my friend
@@shawnjawanda3663 but is there any kind of label that says... "yee it's the real deal but you know... from that lost airplane on the Pacific" kind of thing? No?
tamboleo not really dude. As Ryan said you can’t tell which is which without buying it first. That’s how they trick you. You’re better off spending more on a legit piece of gear so you know for sure it’s proper
@@shawnjawanda3663 Allright, thank you man. When it comes to protection it's better to not save money but save your skin :P
Very clearly presented without making a feel like skipping even a few seconds of the video too, and yes these fake things are all over the world competiting with the price tags which looks genuine but are not compromising the quality of it when its actually required. This video is a great presentation 👏 kudos.
Time to drop everything! Ryan has a new video out, he's here to try to save your lives
Literally my reaction every time fortnine drops a video.
Ryan, your content is top notch. A+. No knockoff here. The real deal!
This is such a good video man GREAT job! Great info especially since I need new gear 🤔
I really enjoy the great content. Well thought out and developed. However, I also enjoy simple videos, such as the videos you used to do comparing you favorite riding boots for whatever year.
Love the channel, please do a video on JIS screwdrivers!
Briefly, around 8:30 - ua-cam.com/video/JKZVc4JRY4A/v-deo.html ~RF9
@@FortNine thanks, any chance you'll be carrying vessel on the fortnine website??
you should be at 2 million subs by now with this production. keep it coming brother!
I work in the apparel industry.
ALL OF THESE STORIES REALLY DO HAPPEN... ALL. THE. TIME.
Great video! Great editing! Great production value!
Very entertaining!
The people who sell fakes and the people who make fakes should be held accountable. A new rider or a naive person could die because of their greed. Excellent video.... And people don't lie idle, report these fakes o9n ebay and bootleg sites, It's usually a click on ebay, facebook and all the rest of the mind numbing social crap.
Not just motorcycle gear, I bought a lens online from a legit source its suppose to be a USA lens, came in the mail I went to register it on the manufacturers website like I do with all my camera stuff, it comes up as a gray market. The seller made good on it and got me the right product.
I just hope the Alpinestars Goretex boots I paid almost 300 bucks for are legit.
The one 👎 must have bought one of those fake Rossi helmets.
Your video production is head and shoulders above all on You Tube. Very entertaining and informative. Thank you.
Jaw Has Left The Chat
This is one of your best episodes, very entertaining and educational
Ryan: can I golf club the expensive helmet?
F9: Prove your point by telling half the story club the cheap one only.
Ryan: Someone will notice!
F9: it’ll be fine
I really wanted to see the AVG take the hit. Left disappointed.
Why are you the only one popularising this info! Keep up the good work.
This Halloween special has me eating my Cheetos too damn fast
This guy makes some awesome videos. The fact that they are about motorcycling is like the icing on a cake.
Wow! Not trusting my head or hands to those imposters
I am investigating the market for my 1st bike, and of course all the equipment that is imperative to wear, to be safe as possible!
I went to a local small shop, to see a Honda CB650R, new (I know my way with cars, and I am sick of secondhand car issues, and I guess with bikes are the same, but much more exposed if something goes wrong!) But the guy was pretty vague, I had to interrogate him, and still I wasn't sure about boots, trousers, helmet, etc. And I look funny on the 650R, because I kinda look like I wanted to get a horse, but I got a donkey, referring to size.
I find your videos very helpful, and I enjoy watching you! I want to thank you for your hard work! And When I see that YammyNoob is referring to you as a achelon, and I enjoy them too, it's clear that you are at a professional level.
Keep up the good work!
I salute you!
If only "mainstream" media brought us the level of journalism that F9 brings...
Don't. F9 will become mainstream and hopefully that won't be the case
@@rally2727 Ooof, didn't look at it that way. I think we're safe, they're Canadian!
Super informative, fascinating stuff!
I'm a simple man. I see Ryan in a skeleton mask sporting a gun, I click.
Dude you are SO effing good at being Informative and entertaining.
My real a stars were stiff as a freaking board when I first got them.
Brilliant production quality and sense of humor has me coming back
You should have 2 mills subscribers
Did anyone notice the motorcycle?
Fortnine is an underrated channel. Look at that production value 👌🏻 giving big players a run for their money.
A fitting topic on this unholy day. Great work!
I love that your production and entertainment values are higher these days!
Γεια σου φιλε Ryan,πολυ ωραιο βιντεο 😂😂
This channel just keeps making one better video after the other! You are the best!!!
105 likes, 0 dislike!!!!
These videos are the best so much effort goes into them there funny but also so informative. Keep it up Ryan & Co
Nice golf swing! Great form with that 5 iron shot to the fake helmet. Very much enjoying your channel the last 3 weeks as I recover with a broken ankle from my DRZ 400 due to the wrong boots. Gonna buy some Tech 7s when recovered thank to your review.
Another awesome Fort9 production!
Internet sales has brought so much counterfeit gear and items to be sold. Motorcycle gear isn’t the only thing to be counterfeited.
The quality keeps on getting better and better. No one does it as good as you.
Always a huge fan of your reviews, and Man, that creativeness is oustanding, Thanks for sharing!!
Always good to see fortnine on my feed.
All you vids are great but this one may be one of your most important. 👍
Great video! Wonderful production.
Only thing I would suggest is to have a text of ‘original’ or ‘fake’ at every scene you show -for easier comprehension (as you did with the egg)
Adding on this: the ghost phase outs... amazing
You manage to make something that would normally be putting me to sleep, very entertaining. Your acting and editing skills are superb.
This is excellent work. Solid research, great production, outstanding delivery. Consistently high quality videos. Informative and entertaining. Well done.
I still cant phantom how you aren´t over a million subs Ryan. Such quality, informative content & top production.
Great info and the cinematography was awesome as usual. Keep up the great work.