No one has a "right" to a loan. You either *qualify* for a loan or you do not. And if *you* take out a loan, then *you* are responsible for repaying that loan.
key word is "qualify" I didnt quality for fafsa and Didnt get any scholarships even though I applied for over 50. I worked my butt off paying for school while attending. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE hearing people complain about loans they were granted which made their lives so much easier.
You have a right to a loan, you do not have a right to force one. A right is not something the government provides. You have a right to engage in contracts, of which a loan is. But you do not have the *privilege* of forcing someone to give it to you. Your position put forth in that post supports the other side. You have a right to free speech, to speak your mind, but cannot force someone to listen to you. You are arguing that you don't have the right to express yourself because it depends on someone being willing to pay attention. This is false.
It's not about the loans. Education does not guarantee a job because degrees have no value in society. Imagine you invest in a business that failed and you're unable to declare bankruptcy while monthly payments are accumulating
The courts have denied this administration’s interpretation of that law, yet they continue to insist on their interpretation. The Congress should take that money away from the Department of Education.
@@ralphemerson497All true! And the appeasers and RINO’s want him left in the seat! Hell, he just worked with the demokkkrats to give Ukraine more money than the entire budget of the USMC this year!
Diversity Equality. Today Inclusion White Segregated Yesterday Protestant 60 years ago WASP's led in all American categories because no one else was allowed by law to compete with them. I've always found it strange that the very people who are quick to scream "Reverse Discrimination" were the very last to ever admit "Discrimination".
@@kylej7815 and what do you base this assumption of yours on? I'd call it an absurd assumption given that the people who opposed centralized power have significant overlap with the people who don't want their tax going overseas either. The most likely scenario is that the OP is opposed to both.
@@0397rb Those two ideas do not co-relate. Non-support for paying off college loans does not mean that you support sending money overseas. One does not equal the other.
@@jamesjones7770 Just curious as to why you and other trolls on here think that if people are not happy about paying off other peoples college loans, that we are happy about bankruptcy and overseas aid. I didn't go to college, so explain that for me. Thanks.
@@jamied9782 Start by working at your local level to roll back excesses and abuses there while building bulwarks against future ones. From there expand it to one level higher - say municipal to county, or county to state legislative district. This creates a culture of people holding them to account, which is fertile grounds for growing candidates who will hold them accountable. As long as you remain focused on the federal - where you have absolutely the least influence - you will continue to lose ground. The Left has always been centralist and authoritarian (see: the early 1900s) and they have systematically and with purpose shifted the focus to a central government where they can encounter the least resistance from we the people. This is one of the effects of screwing up how we put Senators into federal congress. They should never have been moved to a popular election because it diluted the power of the states to check the union, and diluted the ability of the people to influence that via local elections.
Use your brain! The only people getting forgiveness had predatory loans from predatory banks, institutions and intermediaries, AND, remember this part, AND are not financially stable. Meaning they don’t have daddy to pay their loans off, like your son did.
@@TiffanyTeaLeavesThey're not concerned about that. That's just language they use to attempt to justify it. If pred lending and blah blah blah were reason enough, why weren't all of us who purchased homes 2004-2008 given loan forgiveness instead of foreclosures?
@@legaleeblonde4310or all those loans the Congress members took out for PPP and never paid back. Hell they deleted the paper trail so they could never even be investigated.
I paid for my own college loans …every damn dime. I want it BACK TOO! This is FING RIDICULOUS! If we pay their loans they should hand over their damn diplomas…and every bit of transcript that shows they attended school. Don’t pay your car note…it’s repossessed….dont pay up your mortgage….its foreclosed and you’re on the street. This is FING RIDICULOUS
And we who have done that are in a BOHICA moment. What these freeloaders don't get is eventually they will pay it back in taxes and then turn around and pay for the next generations loans.
How about this..... Maybe they can stop the student loan bailouts..... Slow the flow of cash and arms...going to Ukraine and Israel. Then fix social security....and take care of our Vets! Additionally... it's costing we the taxpayers, billions to fund everything associated with the millions that have come here illegally.
@@chrisyaritz2180 I agree with everything but Socal security. SS isn't what most people think it is now. 40% of the people that get a monthly check from SS have never paid anything into it. The SS Administration says by 2026 50% will be illegal immigrants. Yes all that cash the gov is giving thim comes from SS. They sign up for SS the day they turn themselves into border patrol.
@@chrisyaritz2180 Yup, Social Security will run out in about 10 years but we cannot fund that properly because we fund all these money laundering schemes: Ukraine, Israel, Student Loans, Illegal Alien relief fund, Homeless camps.
My thoughts too.... Trump should submit a plan to forgive ALL student debt. That way, the democrats will FINALLY oppose it and we can move on from this ridiculous idea.....
WE SHOULD NOT BAIL OUT THE STUDENT LOANS. THEY GOT THE LOAN , THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY IT BACK ON THEIR OWN. NOT THE TAX PAYERS. WE TOOK A LOAN OUT FOR OUR HOMES AND WE HAVE TO THAT LOAN BACK MY OUR SELFS. !!!!! IF BIDEN IS GOING TO MPAY THE STUDENT LOANS OFF THEN BIDEN SHOULD PAY OUR HOMES OFF AS WELL. !!!!!!!
I guess you were okay with the bank bailouts though weren't you? Why didn't we just let the banks fail instead of using taxpayers money to bail them out? We bailed them out to protect the money YOU earn from your stock portfolio at the expense of MY taxpayer dollars. I don't have a dime in stocks or bonds or invested on Wall Street so it was partly my money that bailed YOU out, but please let's not help out our over burdened students with their higher than average interest rate loans. Lets keep them in debt for the next 30 years and not allow them to achieve the American dream until they are in their 50's.
Your house loan isn't helping anyone. Someone's dental school or medical school or nursing loan his helping your grandma out whos been stuck in the hospital battling xyz. Furthermore, those loans that you speak of help that person earn a higher income, which means they pay higher taxes. The taxpayer system is already benefiting from that person taking out loans and they are putting back in far more than they took out over their career. Your home doesn't do that. If this is a student loan, it should be at zero fuckin interest at the very least! At the most, my taxes that I pay that are easily 10x what they were before my college career should be my loan repayment.
Why can he ignore Congress and SCOTUS and still keep his job and not in jail . He wants more money because the Unions need more money . I went to Auto Tech school and had to pay my loans , why not give my money back ?
So every White hire is smarter than every minority hire ? Sounds like my teenage years. MAGA = Make America Great Again ! 1860 ? 1868 ? 1875 ? 1908 ? 1917 ? 1933 ? 1943 ? 1956 ? 1963 ? 1969 ? 1975 ? 1981 ? 1992 ? 1999 ? 2002 ? 2008 ? 2013 ? 2019 ? 2022 ? When was America Great for Americans ? ps. My grandfather was born in Ark. in 1907 My father in Ark. 1928 Myself in Detroit 1953 My 1st son in Det. 1978
This topic shouldn't even be on the table. The Department of Education should concentrate on doing their jobs effectively if they don't want to be defunded.
You'll get it at the soup kitchen after you pay off all those loans the Department of Education transferred to you. Oh, I will be right behind you in the line. Save me a slice of bread.
Likewise if you dont pay the credit card it gets absolved in collections and the tax payer pays for it eventually since the government will back the large banks who gave the loans in the first place and continue to print money. You open a business, it fails, you dont owe that money you file bankruptcy.
@@billyYoast1990 I'll give you credit for trying, but have to correct where you were incorrect. 1. When a credit card debt goes to collections (meaning not the creditor) the collection agency pays the creditor some percentage of it to buy the loan. Thus the bank has been paid -though not as much as you borrowed. 2. FiIing for bankruptcy doesn't shift the burden to the government. For business (as with personal btw, different sections though) you either file full insolvency - in which assets are liquidated to pay down debts and the rest is wiped clean; or you file for restructuring. In that case the court acts as arbitrator and forces a restructuring of the debt, with you winding up still owing money and are put on a payment plan. Now here is the kicker: there are a few categories of debt you *cannot* write off in any form of bankruptcy. One of those are federally backed student loans. Fully private student loans can be written off (unless that has been changed lately) as the government is not on the hook if you don't pay. This is why those of us quite familiar with the situation recognize this as a transfer of wealth to the wealthy. Because, if you have a private student loan and can't pay it, the banks won't get their money if you file insolvency, and may not get much depending on other creditors' priority in a Chapter 13 bankruptcy. So the government paying them is transferring wealth to them from the rest of us who didn't put ourselves in that situation.
Everyone who went to trade schools should be refunded. Everyone who didn't go anywhere should get $$ back too, since we'll be the one footing the bill. I paid off my house and my credit cards. I can't wait to get reimbursed for all of that.
Yeah they’re pocketing most, if they did actually spend that money our public schools would have better standards and structure of education like the Montessori that ACTUALLY teaches from a human standpoint and not a regime for the corporate over lords
I spent 20 years paying my student debt off Now they want me to pay more student loans! Where do I apply to have my payments returned? The average non-Ivy league colleges Charge about 20-30K/year So about 120K total to receive a fairly good education Heck, that's about the cost of a new diesel pickup!!
Higher education isn't affordable because the government backs the loans so the higher education raised their tuition. If you got the government out of student loans, tuition would crash.
Finally, someone who actually knows the causal agent! There are precisely two major industries that have consistently and dramatically outpaced the standard price increase trends. One is college, the other is medical. In BOTH cases the government stepped in and wound up separating the consumer from the price. This always leads to higher rates of increase. Even within those broader categories we can see it reinforced. Trade schools are not crazy expensive and are not subsidized by the federal government. They don't "outpace inflation." Non-covered medical such as cosmetic and laser eye surgery also follow the standard pattern of improving but not rapidly rising price. Because the consumer was/is the payer.
Also, if the problem is predatory loanmakers, per Cardona, why isn't the DOE filing a lawsuit against all those lenders??? Or why isn't there a class action suit against them??? Just f***in' unreal what these people try to get away with.
So what’s the problem of forgiving these loans? Why not attack other government programs that benefit corporations or the lawmakers themselves? That’s what should make you angry
@@TatianaMiroshnichenko-d2x 1) the forgiveness is illegal. The other things you mention are legal. 2) the forgiveness program simply leaves some private businesses high and dry. The programs you mention intentionally pay private business. 3) it's possible to walk and chew gum at the same time. Opposing loan forgiveness doesn't mean you can't also oppose other government actions.
I love how the House, Senate and SUPREME COURT all said not to do this, yet some unelected bureaucrat can just push it through because they can, and NO ONE can stop them?!?!? 🤬
Those savings will have to come from somewhere to support education, oh and those savings you're proclaiming will probably be sent to some country crying poor mouth. We're better off helping our own people don't you think? That's right you don't think do you?
@@jamesjones7770 You seem ignorant.. As the savings does not come from their Budget. It comes from having to cover their Salaries, Pension Funds, Premium Medical, Vacations, Holidays etc... I would add. The State pays for schools and education. Why you pay wait for it,,, School taxes..But you would not know that. As you don't have to pay them. Everybody else does.. And being America is 29th in education yet spends 1000% more per student. I'm for School Choice..
The government should not be in the business of making student loans to begin with. Making loans should be between a bank or financial institution and a student plus his family.
Higher education is inaccessible? To whom? The Federal Government got into the loan business and has managed to, like it has done with everything it touches, screw it too. These demented people want to not only change the rules mid stream but, change the propriety of a contract between two or more parties.
If you borrow..that loan is between that person and the place they borrowed from. Not tax payer should be burdened with paying SOMEONE ELSES BILLS! THIS IS CORRUPT
EXACTLY! However, did the predatory institutions drag the student in off the street and hold them at gunpoint and force them to enroll in their school and sign the loan papers? Did they? That sure didn’t happen to ME. No…I trotted my happy a$$ into the office and applied with NO THREAT OF PHYSICAL HARM…and guess what else? I paid back EVERY DAMN DIME! I worked two jobs to do this and it took me seven years…but I DID IT! I didn’t beg for handouts…no! My choice to go,to college - MY - burden! End of story.
Im blown away by how many people dont see the difference on this chat. How many of the I payed my loans peoples parents paid their loans. How many had loans that were not even 20k.
@@billyYoast1990 Most college graduates get out into the real world with an average loan total of about 34k. The vast majority of them pay it off just fine. There are two outliers: 1) People who had enough family money to qualify for far more than the government limits federally backed loans to 2) People who never should have been there going for 18 months or so and dropping out, meanwhile they borrowed not just for tuition but living expenses.
@@IAmTheRealBill I agree. I dont like the people attacking students as if the govt. and institutions are not the primary components of the failed system here. Also to acknowledge the difference of not being able to go into bankruptcy is huge.
It's theft, plain and simple. They applied for the loan, signed the contract and received the money. If they didn't do research on the ROI of that exchange, that is their fault. I knew nothing about student loans but decided to take one out in 2014. I studied, asked questions and did my research. I paid my loan off completely in 2018. Should I blame my parents for teaching me to be accountable for my decisions? Our daughter worked her butt off, got academic scholarships and graduated debt free in 2022. Our son just finished his 3rd year of electrical apprenticeship at 20. Why should they have to pay for some idiot who wasted their loan money and now wants a do-over for free?
You do have a right to a loan. You have a right to engage in contracts with other adults. That is what a loan is. You are just as confused as the people who say "healthcare is a right, so the government needs to pay for mine." You have a right to get *a* loan. You do not have a right to force someone to give you a loan. I have a right to eat an apple, but that doesn't give me a right to eat *your* apples. It is no wonder that politicians, bureaucrats, and cops don't understand rights, when the common person doesn't.
@@IAmTheRealBillThis is what I mean by watering down the term. They are using this term that was traditionally more used for broader fundamental things (like the right to enter contracts) to push meaning beyond the simple definition of the word "right". And if you think when people talk about the "right to loan" when they talk about student loans they mean just the normal definition of loans... you are sadly mistaken. Your eligibility should be decided based on your possibility to repay the loans and if you are statistically unlikely to repay the loan you should not be given a loan. Right now a problem is the government is subsidizing student loans and basically paying them off with tax payer money.
@@carlsanders7824 First, the rich take out loans all the time, because unlike you apparently, they know that it can be the smart thing to do financially. Second, OP is correct. The ones who will financially benefit the most are the rich.
Predatory lenders? What's that mean? You agreed to the amount, the interest rate, & the terms. Why not hit out at credit cards? They have higher interest rates. 🇨🇦
Tuition escalated once Gov started handing out the loans. He needs to be putting some fear into the colleges instead of covering this up by making the debt disappear.
@@jiggerblossom While the first statement is partially true (the grants are a larger impact), it isn't the root of the problem today. There is a lot of misinformation, and probably some disinformation, around this topic. The fact is that if you 1) Go to a community college the first two years to get a 2 degree that transfers then 2) Spend the next two years at an *in-state* school paying *in-state* tuition, 3) Get a job to pay for your non-school expenses then your costs are dramatically lower. Some specifics: For the academic year 2022-2023, the average undergraduate tuition and fees for U.S. colleges were $9,368 for in-state students and $22,272 for out-of-state students. 9k vs. 22k is an enormous difference. Especially as it is per-year. For in-state community colleges you're looking at an average of 5k/year. So instead of 88k for 4 years, the method outlined above would instead be only 28k. Even if you just stayed in state and did four years w/o a CC tour, you're still looking at only 36k vs. 88k. And here is the real kicker that highlights why this bias toward out of state schools is the real problem today: If your family is broke af (as mine was), your federally backed Stanford loan for the first two years is about $3,500 and $4,500 if subsidized for those first two years, and $5,500 and $6,500 for total (subsidized and unsubsidized). next up is the Pell grant which currently carries a maximum of almost 7k. I'll leave it to you to work out the math on how much of a loan you actually need to pay tuition and fees with those Pell grants, if you follow the path I outlined above.
He said"predatory institutions" not "predatory lenders" and he was correct. The predators are the colleges and universities. They are the ones making money and making false promises.
WHAT??????? IT TOOK ME 10 YEARS TO PAY MY COLLEGE LOANS BACK----I WAS HAPPY TO DO IT AS i WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A JOB THAT WOULD SUPPORT ME. I DIDN'T MAKE A ZILLION DOLLARS, NO WAY COULD I BUY WHATEVER I WANTED, I HAD OTHER BILLS -REGULAR LIVING EXPENSE TO PAY---IT'S CALLED BUDGET. SO I WANT MY MONEY BACK --I WANT THOSE LOANS FORGIVEN!!! AND HOW DID THESE PEOPLE END UP WITH SUCH EXORBITANT LOANS????? HOW COME THEY DIDN'T BUDGET AND ACCEPT WHAT THEY COULD BUY AND NOT????? DID THEY START OFF WITH GOING FOR A DEGREE IN BASKET WEAVE? DID THEY NOT DO RESEARCH IN THE FIELD THEY WANTED AND IF A JOB IN THAT FIELD WOULD SUPPORT THEM?? I BLAME THEM, THEIR PARENTS, SCHOOL ADVISERS. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH BUT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS CERTAINLY GIVING IT OUT AND WE TAXPAYERS ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT
@@scray00 I remember even Nancy Pelosi said the president doesn't have the power to forgive student loans without congress approval. So, what happened? Did Biden use the Department of Education money to forgive student loans?
No one has a "right" to a loan. You either *qualify* for a loan or you do not. And if *you* take out a loan, then *you* are responsible for repaying that loan.
They should say you have the right to apply for a loan .
key word is "qualify"
I didnt quality for fafsa and Didnt get any scholarships even though I applied for over 50. I worked my butt off paying for school while attending. I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE hearing people complain about loans they were granted which made their lives so much easier.
You have a right to a loan, you do not have a right to force one. A right is not something the government provides. You have a right to engage in contracts, of which a loan is. But you do not have the *privilege* of forcing someone to give it to you. Your position put forth in that post supports the other side.
You have a right to free speech, to speak your mind, but cannot force someone to listen to you. You are arguing that you don't have the right to express yourself because it depends on someone being willing to pay attention. This is false.
It's not about the loans. Education does not guarantee a job because degrees have no value in society. Imagine you invest in a business that failed and you're unable to declare bankruptcy while monthly payments are accumulating
@@IAmTheRealBill What student has been Forced to accept a loan?
This Corruption must stop
with binden asap
The courts have denied this administration’s interpretation of that law, yet they continue to insist on their interpretation. The Congress should take that money away from the Department of Education.
Good idea. Every dollar they forgive take it away from the universities.
The old man knows that he's banking on all those MSNPC viewers to just hear the loan was forgiven. He knows it's going to be overturned again.
With the current RINO Leader Johnson in charge, the GOP House with their slim majority refused to hold Agencies and Departments accountable.
Call the marshals Office and put him in jail.
@@ralphemerson497All true! And the appeasers and RINO’s want him left in the seat! Hell, he just worked with the demokkkrats to give Ukraine more money than the entire budget of the USMC this year!
Need to abolish the Dept of Education. The secretary is disgusting
So is the NEA president.
Gosh, it is refreshing and encouraging to see a lady who has a position that was achieved by CAPABILTY and not DEI!
Diversity
Equality. Today
Inclusion
White
Segregated Yesterday
Protestant
60 years ago WASP's led in all American categories because no one else was allowed by law to compete with them. I've always found it strange that the very people who are quick to scream "Reverse Discrimination" were the very last to ever admit
"Discrimination".
Defund the Department of Education! Keep it at the state level!!! 🙏🏼🇺🇸
They don't have a right to my tax payer money....I'd rather donate to a local vocational technical college.
At this point, it's the tax money of Americans who aren't even old enough to work, and not even born yet!
You don't pay any taxes.
And you’re ok with 260 billion to Ukraine.
@@kylej7815 and what do you base this assumption of yours on? I'd call it an absurd assumption given that the people who opposed centralized power have significant overlap with the people who don't want their tax going overseas either. The most likely scenario is that the OP is opposed to both.
@@IAmTheRealBill then why doesn’t the OP go post on the subject of 260 billion to Ukraine. Don’t see any comment there from OP
It’s not debt relief. It’s taking taxpayers dollars and paying off another persons debt. Wrong on every level.
WOKE wants to buy vote.
So your cool with the billions sent overseas .👌🏾
@@0397rb Those two ideas do not co-relate. Non-support for paying off college loans does not mean that you support sending money overseas. One does not equal the other.
But you're okay with everyone else discharging their debt thru bankruptcy at the taxpayers expense?
@@jamesjones7770 Just curious as to why you and other trolls on here think that if people are not happy about paying off other peoples college loans, that we are happy about bankruptcy and overseas aid. I didn't go to college, so explain that for me. Thanks.
Abolish the department of education.
I agree. And abolish the Senate for all the effect it has on these people. What a colossal waste of time. The Congress is totally IMPOTENT!
They barely educate along with their massive indoctrination in Socialist values . Just as with the CIA , they are no longer needed or affordable .
I agree. 78 BILLION dollar budget??? This dept was instituted by another outstanding president, Jimmy Carter.
Diseducation
And?
The head of DOE should be arrested and prosecuted for defying SCOTUS!
Hell, for defying logic.
The department of NON- education should be shut down and all of it's ruling turned over to the states to watch over.
It'd be better... but I'm not sure I trust the states either.
@MonkeyMind69 Then in the states that show they can't be trusted, it will fall to the people of that state to fix the problem.
As a teacher, I agree!
Abolish this failed dept NOW!!
Why so states like Utah teach their citizens that the Earth is 2000 years old? Nah
Department of Education needs to be abolished.
And yet nothing happened. He walked out of that pointless hearing with no accountability. Congressional hearings are absolutely pointless
Political theatre. No one loses their job or is punished.
Therein lies the problem. How do we, the people, get our point across? Legit question I’m asking.
The ONLY politician that I've ever seen prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law is President Trump for the crime of loving his country.
@@jamied9782 Start by working at your local level to roll back excesses and abuses there while building bulwarks against future ones. From there expand it to one level higher - say municipal to county, or county to state legislative district. This creates a culture of people holding them to account, which is fertile grounds for growing candidates who will hold them accountable.
As long as you remain focused on the federal - where you have absolutely the least influence - you will continue to lose ground. The Left has always been centralist and authoritarian (see: the early 1900s) and they have systematically and with purpose shifted the focus to a central government where they can encounter the least resistance from we the people. This is one of the effects of screwing up how we put Senators into federal congress. They should never have been moved to a popular election because it diluted the power of the states to check the union, and diluted the ability of the people to influence that via local elections.
@@golferpro1241 It's a clique behind official curtains.
Lisa McClain Rocks !!!! She backs down to no one ! This country needs more Lisa McClains. She is tough and smart !
I paid my son college loan, I want my money back
Use your brain! The only people getting forgiveness had predatory loans from predatory banks, institutions and intermediaries, AND, remember this part, AND are not financially stable. Meaning they don’t have daddy to pay their loans off, like your son did.
@@TiffanyTeaLeavesThey're not concerned about that. That's just language they use to attempt to justify it. If pred lending and blah blah blah were reason enough, why weren't all of us who purchased homes 2004-2008 given loan forgiveness instead of foreclosures?
@@legaleeblonde4310or all those loans the Congress members took out for PPP and never paid back. Hell they deleted the paper trail so they could never even be investigated.
I paid for my own college loans …every damn dime. I want it BACK TOO! This is FING RIDICULOUS! If we pay their loans they should hand over their damn diplomas…and every bit of transcript that shows they attended school. Don’t pay your car note…it’s repossessed….dont pay up your mortgage….its foreclosed and you’re on the street. This is FING RIDICULOUS
If you can afford it you don’t qualify 🙄
If you sign a contract, you are bound by it. Full stop. No one is forgiving my mortgage.
I paid mine YOU PAY YOURS!!!!!!!!@
And we who have done that are in a BOHICA moment. What these freeloaders don't get is eventually they will pay it back in taxes and then turn around and pay for the next generations loans.
Me too! Hey, we should start a new movement!
Me and My KIds too ............. and we didn't go Cancun for spring breaks.
Still paying for my education! Who gives this man the right to make these decisions?
Yes, if you borrow money you are responsible to pay it back. This is insane, people need to be adults.
I paid my college loan…now I’m paying someone else’s?
Yeah, and if you have kids, they're on the hook, too!
yes, biden punishes people who are responsible with their money those are the people who usually don't vote for him.
Because Marxism that’s why.
Our country does not need a department of education. How much money would that save?
Stop funding departments that dont follow the laws. This is the power of the house. If your voting to fund this crap your just as responsible.
Start with President's office 😂
How about this.....
Maybe they can stop the student loan bailouts.....
Slow the flow of cash and arms...going to Ukraine and Israel.
Then fix social security....and take care of our Vets!
Additionally... it's costing we the taxpayers, billions to fund everything associated with the millions that have come here illegally.
@@chrisyaritz2180 I agree with everything but Socal security. SS isn't what most people think it is now. 40% of the people that get a monthly check from SS have never paid anything into it. The SS Administration says by 2026 50% will be illegal immigrants. Yes all that cash the gov is giving thim comes from SS. They sign up for SS the day they turn themselves into border patrol.
@@chrisyaritz2180 Yup,
Social Security will run out in about 10 years but we cannot fund that properly because we fund all these money laundering schemes: Ukraine, Israel, Student Loans, Illegal Alien relief fund, Homeless camps.
Rep. Lisa McClain (R-MI).....IS AWESOME!!!!
Totally ridiculous, corrupt, and unethical. What would the result be if Trump did the same thing?
Probably 143 indictments.
My thoughts too.... Trump should submit a plan to forgive ALL student debt. That way, the democrats will FINALLY oppose it and we can move on from this ridiculous idea.....
abuse of power...impeach
WE SHOULD NOT BAIL OUT THE STUDENT LOANS. THEY GOT THE LOAN , THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY IT BACK ON THEIR OWN. NOT THE TAX PAYERS. WE TOOK A LOAN OUT FOR OUR HOMES AND WE HAVE TO THAT LOAN BACK MY OUR SELFS. !!!!! IF BIDEN IS GOING TO MPAY THE STUDENT LOANS OFF THEN BIDEN SHOULD PAY OUR HOMES OFF AS WELL. !!!!!!!
I guess you were okay with the bank bailouts though weren't you? Why didn't we just let the banks fail instead of using taxpayers money to bail them out? We bailed them out to protect the money YOU earn from your stock portfolio at the expense of MY taxpayer dollars. I don't have a dime in stocks or bonds or invested on Wall Street so it was partly my money that bailed YOU out, but please let's not help out our over burdened students with their higher than average interest rate loans. Lets keep them in debt for the next 30 years and not allow them to achieve the American dream until they are in their 50's.
Your house loan isn't helping anyone. Someone's dental school or medical school or nursing loan his helping your grandma out whos been stuck in the hospital battling xyz. Furthermore, those loans that you speak of help that person earn a higher income, which means they pay higher taxes. The taxpayer system is already benefiting from that person taking out loans and they are putting back in far more than they took out over their career. Your home doesn't do that. If this is a student loan, it should be at zero fuckin interest at the very least! At the most, my taxes that I pay that are easily 10x what they were before my college career should be my loan repayment.
We bailed out the banks in 2008. Why not help citizens for a change?
I love this Congress Lady,she is a good and strong human being unlike some some of our leaders.
Why can he ignore Congress and SCOTUS and still keep his job and not in jail . He wants more money because the Unions need more money . I went to Auto Tech school and had to pay my loans , why not give my money back ?
What is the point of these hearings, nothing is ever DONE!
Cardona is another DEI hire who has no clue what he's talking about.
So every White hire is smarter than every minority hire ? Sounds like my teenage years. MAGA = Make America Great Again !
1860 ? 1868 ?
1875 ? 1908 ?
1917 ? 1933 ?
1943 ? 1956 ?
1963 ? 1969 ?
1975 ? 1981 ?
1992 ? 1999 ?
2002 ? 2008 ?
2013 ? 2019 ?
2022 ?
When was America Great for Americans ?
ps. My grandfather was born in Ark. in 1907
My father in Ark. 1928
Myself in Detroit 1953
My 1st son in Det. 1978
Stay mad Jim! My loans are forgiven! I'm enjoying your tax dollars that paid for this DEI hire's education. Thanks!
Loan forgiveness is so wrong on so many levels. Miguel Cardona is so wrong on his position on loan forgiveness.
This topic shouldn't even be on the table. The Department of Education should concentrate on doing their jobs effectively if they don't want to be defunded.
It's an unconstitutional department and shouldn't even exist.
she cleaned that pos's clock
Yes, but unfortunately nothing else will happen.
I paid off my student loans. Where's my free lunch?
Free higher taxes.
I could not afford to put myself or my children through college why should I pay your college tuition? I am barely getting by right now as it is
LOL. Got one!
@@StevanKuyper-ms4lp Biden's plan to destroy America.
You'll get it at the soup kitchen after you pay off all those loans the Department of Education transferred to you. Oh, I will be right behind you in the line. Save me a slice of bread.
The schools should then be responsible for the loans.
Unelected officials should not have more power than our entire government structures combined.
This is the Deep State in action. They could care less what the Constitution says.
They should not but they do.
It a university sells an education that cannot pay for itself, the student should ask for a refund.
Likewise, if you use a credit card, you are responsible to pay it back, WITH INTEREST if you miss payments. With both, you SIGNED A LEGAL CONTRACT.
Likewise if you dont pay the credit card it gets absolved in collections and the tax payer pays for it eventually since the government will back the large banks who gave the loans in the first place and continue to print money. You open a business, it fails, you dont owe that money you file bankruptcy.
@@billyYoast1990 I'll give you credit for trying, but have to correct where you were incorrect.
1. When a credit card debt goes to collections (meaning not the creditor) the collection agency pays the creditor some percentage of it to buy the loan. Thus the bank has been paid -though not as much as you borrowed.
2. FiIing for bankruptcy doesn't shift the burden to the government. For business (as with personal btw, different sections though) you either file full insolvency - in which assets are liquidated to pay down debts and the rest is wiped clean; or you file for restructuring. In that case the court acts as arbitrator and forces a restructuring of the debt, with you winding up still owing money and are put on a payment plan.
Now here is the kicker: there are a few categories of debt you *cannot* write off in any form of bankruptcy. One of those are federally backed student loans. Fully private student loans can be written off (unless that has been changed lately) as the government is not on the hook if you don't pay.
This is why those of us quite familiar with the situation recognize this as a transfer of wealth to the wealthy. Because, if you have a private student loan and can't pay it, the banks won't get their money if you file insolvency, and may not get much depending on other creditors' priority in a Chapter 13 bankruptcy. So the government paying them is transferring wealth to them from the rest of us who didn't put ourselves in that situation.
Isn’t he breaking the law!!!! Wake up Congress!
Then congress...the House and Senate... need to remove the "law" he keeps relying on... just remove his crutch.
The worthless President will never sign it.
He'll just find another law he claims gives him the power.
Where are the reply comments?
It's because they think that they are above the law, and they should be jailed for it.
Everyone who went to trade schools should be refunded. Everyone who didn't go anywhere should get $$ back too, since we'll be the one footing the bill. I paid off my house and my credit cards. I can't wait to get reimbursed for all of that.
Thank God there’s some people in Congress that has some common sense 😇🙏
It’s great to see they say that certain issues are broken, but it’s never ever fixed
80 billion is the size of a global corporation. Where are they spending the money
It’s being siphoned off and spent on supporting radical leftist activism
They could spend a trillion and the results would be the same.
BUYING VOTES & LINING THEIR POCKETS 😡 Our own government is ripping the US Taxpayers off!!!
Yeah they’re pocketing most, if they did actually spend that money our public schools would have better standards and structure of education like the Montessori that ACTUALLY teaches from a human standpoint and not a regime for the corporate over lords
Yes, where does this money go??? I thought we paid local taxes for education. Now they get free breakfasts.
I served in the military to pay for my education, why can't they do either military or social service
83 billion? Jesus
For a department that doesn't educate anyone.
And kids don’t know who George Washington is or what a woman is.
We bailed out the banks in 2008 and they used that money to pay the CEOS and buy their own stock!
Why not hep the citizens for a change?
That MEANS, THAT YOU GO AFTER THE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS!!!
This is insane that this is even being discussed!!!
Simply Denial and lying about it.
I spent 20 years paying my student debt off
Now they want me to pay more student loans!
Where do I apply to have my payments returned?
The average non-Ivy league colleges
Charge about 20-30K/year
So about 120K total to receive a fairly good education
Heck, that's about the cost of a new diesel pickup!!
Higher education isn't affordable because the government backs the loans so the higher education raised their tuition. If you got the government out of student loans, tuition would crash.
Finally, someone who actually knows the causal agent!
There are precisely two major industries that have consistently and dramatically outpaced the standard price increase trends. One is college, the other is medical. In BOTH cases the government stepped in and wound up separating the consumer from the price. This always leads to higher rates of increase.
Even within those broader categories we can see it reinforced. Trade schools are not crazy expensive and are not subsidized by the federal government. They don't "outpace inflation." Non-covered medical such as cosmetic and laser eye surgery also follow the standard pattern of improving but not rapidly rising price. Because the consumer was/is the payer.
too bad these hearings never bring about any change
Here's a thought, drop the interest rates to 2%. that's all that is needed! Ppl take out loans should have to pay them back, period!!!
They should pay them back at the agreed upon interest rate! Period!
Abolish Department of Education now.
Also, if the problem is predatory loanmakers, per Cardona, why isn't the DOE filing a lawsuit against all those lenders??? Or why isn't there a class action suit against them??? Just f***in' unreal what these people try to get away with.
It's not the lenders sucking the kids in. It's the educational institutions which are getting the money.
So what’s the problem of forgiving these loans? Why not attack other government programs that benefit corporations or the lawmakers themselves? That’s what should make you angry
@@TatianaMiroshnichenko-d2x 1) the forgiveness is illegal. The other things you mention are legal.
2) the forgiveness program simply leaves some private businesses high and dry. The programs you mention intentionally pay private business.
3) it's possible to walk and chew gum at the same time. Opposing loan forgiveness doesn't mean you can't also oppose other government actions.
I love how the House, Senate and SUPREME COURT all said not to do this, yet some unelected bureaucrat can just push it through because they can, and NO ONE can stop them?!?!? 🤬
When do I get my mortgage money back? And when do I get my money back if I buy a bad stock that loses money?
Chesterons Fence needs to be taught in schools. This concept alone will solve so much bad thinking in ALL fields of thought.
Department of Education is gone after this year. As it was created with an Executive Order. That will save the taxpayers $100 billion a year alone..
Those savings will have to come from somewhere to support education, oh and those savings you're proclaiming will probably be sent to some country crying poor mouth. We're better off helping our own people don't you think? That's right you don't think do you?
@@jamesjones7770 You seem ignorant.. As the savings does not come from their Budget. It comes from having to cover their Salaries, Pension Funds, Premium Medical, Vacations, Holidays etc...
I would add. The State pays for schools and education. Why you pay wait for it,,, School taxes..But you would not know that. As you don't have to pay them. Everybody else does.. And being America is 29th in education yet spends 1000% more per student. I'm for School Choice..
@@WizzRacing yes school choice and let the people decide where they want their kids to go!!
The government should not be in the business of making student loans to begin with. Making loans should be between a bank or financial institution and a student plus his family.
How is he not in prison for clearly violating the law? Democrat privilege!
Biden is teaching everyone how to buy votes. He did it before and he is doing it again.
Send that dude don’t think he hast to answer anybody’s questions. Does he fire him?
i want all my tuition money back with interest
Not just with interest, but with the same bullshit interest percentages that they make us pay back. Fk id be a millionaire!
Higher education is inaccessible? To whom? The Federal Government got into the loan business and has managed to, like it has done with everything it touches, screw it too. These demented people want to not only change the rules mid stream but, change the propriety of a contract between two or more parties.
If you borrow..that loan is between that person and the place they borrowed from.
Not tax payer should be burdened with paying SOMEONE ELSES BILLS!
THIS IS CORRUPT
Sounds like he's breaking laws now
Not only is there the belief that there is a right to a loan, but there is also the belief that there is a right to not pay it back if it's hard.
The "predatory" institutions are the colleges/ universities. Not complicated.
EXACTLY! However, did the predatory institutions drag the student in off the street and hold them at gunpoint and force them to enroll in their school and sign the loan papers? Did they? That sure didn’t happen to ME. No…I trotted my happy a$$ into the office and applied with NO THREAT OF PHYSICAL HARM…and guess what else? I paid back EVERY DAMN DIME! I worked two jobs to do this and it took me seven years…but I DID IT! I didn’t beg for handouts…no! My choice to go,to college - MY - burden! End of story.
Im blown away by how many people dont see the difference on this chat. How many of the I payed my loans peoples parents paid their loans. How many had loans that were not even 20k.
Don't give the government bureaucrats and politicians a free pass here, they are just as guilty. In fact they literally started the problem.
@@billyYoast1990 Most college graduates get out into the real world with an average loan total of about 34k. The vast majority of them pay it off just fine.
There are two outliers:
1) People who had enough family money to qualify for far more than the government limits federally backed loans to
2) People who never should have been there going for 18 months or so and dropping out, meanwhile they borrowed not just for tuition but living expenses.
@@IAmTheRealBill I agree. I dont like the people attacking students as if the govt. and institutions are not the primary components of the failed system here. Also to acknowledge the difference of not being able to go into bankruptcy is huge.
He needs to be fired and thrown in jail.
Everything's always broken, even though it isn't, it's just nobody follows the rules.
You can only "forgive" debt if it is your money. Forcing others to pay for it is not "forgiveness" it is THEFT.
Maybe this clown would forfeit his pay not likely
In 2025, he should lose everything.
It's theft, plain and simple. They applied for the loan, signed the contract and received the money. If they didn't do research on the ROI of that exchange, that is their fault. I knew nothing about student loans but decided to take one out in 2014. I studied, asked questions and did my research. I paid my loan off completely in 2018. Should I blame my parents for teaching me to be accountable for my decisions? Our daughter worked her butt off, got academic scholarships and graduated debt free in 2022. Our son just finished his 3rd year of electrical apprenticeship at 20. Why should they have to pay for some idiot who wasted their loan money and now wants a do-over for free?
You don’t have a right to a loan. Our government doesn’t know what words mean anymore.
Amen!
It's a very intentional act to water down terms that used to mean something worth fighting for
You do have a right to a loan. You have a right to engage in contracts with other adults. That is what a loan is.
You are just as confused as the people who say "healthcare is a right, so the government needs to pay for mine." You have a right to get *a* loan. You do not have a right to force someone to give you a loan.
I have a right to eat an apple, but that doesn't give me a right to eat *your* apples. It is no wonder that politicians, bureaucrats, and cops don't understand rights, when the common person doesn't.
@@IAmTheRealBillThis is what I mean by watering down the term. They are using this term that was traditionally more used for broader fundamental things (like the right to enter contracts) to push meaning beyond the simple definition of the word "right". And if you think when people talk about the "right to loan" when they talk about student loans they mean just the normal definition of loans... you are sadly mistaken.
Your eligibility should be decided based on your possibility to repay the loans and if you are statistically unlikely to repay the loan you should not be given a loan. Right now a problem is the government is subsidizing student loans and basically paying them off with tax payer money.
@@IAmTheRealBill no, you don’t have a right to eat an apple. You don’t understand rights.
Delete the dept. of education.
Cancelling student loans is Welfare for the rich.
No, the rich do not need loans. This is welfare for people who had no business going to college in the first place.
What??
@@carlsanders7824why?
@@carlsanders7824 First, the rich take out loans all the time, because unlike you apparently, they know that it can be the smart thing to do financially. Second, OP is correct. The ones who will financially benefit the most are the rich.
@@carlsanders7824 My coworker has house and investment property applied for loan forgiveness
Let him pay for their loan forgiveness
Predatory lenders?
What's that mean? You agreed to the amount, the interest rate, & the terms. Why not hit out at credit cards? They have higher interest rates. 🇨🇦
Tuition escalated once Gov started handing out the loans. He needs to be putting some fear into the colleges instead of covering this up by making the debt disappear.
@@jiggerblossom agreed! Education is a money making exercise.
@@jiggerblossom While the first statement is partially true (the grants are a larger impact), it isn't the root of the problem today. There is a lot of misinformation, and probably some disinformation, around this topic.
The fact is that if you
1) Go to a community college the first two years to get a 2 degree that transfers then
2) Spend the next two years at an *in-state* school paying *in-state* tuition,
3) Get a job to pay for your non-school expenses
then your costs are dramatically lower.
Some specifics:
For the academic year 2022-2023, the average undergraduate tuition and fees for U.S. colleges were $9,368 for in-state students and $22,272 for out-of-state students.
9k vs. 22k is an enormous difference. Especially as it is per-year. For in-state community colleges you're looking at an average of 5k/year.
So instead of 88k for 4 years, the method outlined above would instead be only 28k. Even if you just stayed in state and did four years w/o a CC tour, you're still looking at only 36k vs. 88k.
And here is the real kicker that highlights why this bias toward out of state schools is the real problem today:
If your family is broke af (as mine was), your federally backed Stanford loan for the first two years is about $3,500 and $4,500 if subsidized for those first two years, and $5,500 and $6,500 for total (subsidized and unsubsidized).
next up is the Pell grant which currently carries a maximum of almost 7k.
I'll leave it to you to work out the math on how much of a loan you actually need to pay tuition and fees with those Pell grants, if you follow the path I outlined above.
He said"predatory institutions" not "predatory lenders" and he was correct. The predators are the colleges and universities. They are the ones making money and making false promises.
we ALL NEED TO STOP PAYING TAXES. these people are CORRUPT at EVERY LEVEL... so SICK OF THIS ADMINSTRATION
Put him in prison
Make Universties have risk. Bottom line!
Well said.
Jail time for misappropriation of funds!
No.more money
My son-in-law struggled for decades to pay his school loans but he would agree with Ms. McCain.
WHAT??????? IT TOOK ME 10 YEARS TO PAY MY COLLEGE LOANS BACK----I WAS HAPPY TO DO IT AS i WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A JOB THAT WOULD SUPPORT ME. I DIDN'T MAKE A ZILLION DOLLARS, NO WAY COULD I BUY WHATEVER I WANTED, I HAD OTHER BILLS -REGULAR LIVING EXPENSE TO PAY---IT'S CALLED BUDGET. SO I WANT MY MONEY BACK --I WANT THOSE LOANS FORGIVEN!!! AND HOW DID THESE PEOPLE END UP WITH SUCH EXORBITANT LOANS????? HOW COME THEY DIDN'T BUDGET AND ACCEPT WHAT THEY COULD BUY AND NOT????? DID THEY START OFF WITH GOING FOR A DEGREE IN BASKET WEAVE? DID THEY NOT DO RESEARCH IN THE FIELD THEY WANTED AND IF A JOB IN THAT FIELD WOULD SUPPORT THEM?? I BLAME THEM, THEIR PARENTS, SCHOOL ADVISERS. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH BUT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS CERTAINLY GIVING IT OUT AND WE TAXPAYERS ARE THE ONES PAYING FOR IT
I'm not.
So hard to get a yes or no response.
From the river to the sea, not one damn dime of tax payer student loan forgiveness for thee.
If everybody said no, how did Biden forgive student loans?
Biden hired this yes man to just do it.
And not be charged with a crime? I can’t figure it out either. Hopefully someone answers you.
@@scray00 I remember even Nancy Pelosi said the president doesn't have the power to forgive student loans without congress approval. So, what happened? Did Biden use the Department of Education money to forgive student loans?
The govt will hire anyone. Priority is given to obviously obtuse applicants who don't question anything, and there's absolutely no recourse.
This women is the definition of obtuse.
@@billyYoast1990She's just matching the level of language she's getting from him. Dumbing down.
@@legaleeblonde4310 I like her energy but aim it at the universities not the students
Thank you congresswomen for tell the totally truth.
I am sorry to say this, but these free loaders are the ones we see protesting on the campuses !!
Every parent that ever paid for their kid to go to college should get a refund!
Absolutely agree. No mass loan forgiveness
If the lenders are shady shouldn't the Department of Justice be going after them.
His lady is true HERO🎉
Sounds like he is in contempt.
I served in the US Navy to earn my college degrees and very proud of my service.
THAT’S the problem with government. More money - more problems. Defund these incompetent politicians.