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    Niko discusses with Jake, Nick, and Jordan Allen about how fast A.i. tools are developing and what that can mean to society.
    *Also, the Flood came before the Tower of Babel. Got that one wrong in the discussion. - Jake
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 200

  • @yonimushermusic
    @yonimushermusic Рік тому +43

    Damn Niko that was by far the most well described concise description of a diffusion model I've ever heard thank you

  • @ComicKelsey
    @ComicKelsey Рік тому +28

    Working in comics for the last 20 years, i've seen digital lettering, Photoshop, and 3d programs like Sketchup completely change the landscape of our industry. It's made things easier and now more people can do it, but doesn't mean it's been good. Feels more like people now view my 20 years of experience, knowledge and dedication as no big deal. "Lettering? There's a program for that. You're not special." I highly value the people that came before me, fine tuning technique over long periods of time and contributing to that legacy myself. Not sure that will be a thing moving forward since anyone can do it. Right? ;)

    • @MarcHendry
      @MarcHendry Рік тому +3

      yeah, it doesn't completely remove the more difficult (but more expressive) technique of doing everything manually, because there are always going to be people who want to do it manually, but employers are always going to want the cheaper way. New tech doesn't always actually make work easier for the artists, because demands will increase relative to how much faster they think the new tool is.
      I wouldn't be as afraid of AI image making, if it wasn't a threat to how I feed myself lol (2d animator)

    • @mf--
      @mf-- Рік тому +2

      If someone makes a dataset of pencils, inks, and colors, i wonder if the inks and colors steps can be completely automated. Might have to use specific inkers or colorists for style consistancy but I would be curious to see the results of a similar effort.

    • @sorqus
      @sorqus Рік тому +2

      yeah but no one can do it exactly like you , that's a huge part of art . of course it won't be the same job , you need to adapt, maybe it will be a different thing that does not even exist yet, different from comics, movies etc

    • @namesurname624
      @namesurname624 Рік тому +1

      @@mf-- vizcom has something like that, an ai that does shading
      quality is meh but two updates down the line...

  • @aashishvasu
    @aashishvasu Рік тому +11

    To Jake's point about open source licenses:
    Broadly, there are 3 categories (I know its not comprehensive, but still)
    Open Source and Viral: Under licenses like LGPL, GPL etc, the code base is open source for you to do whatever you want, you can sell what you make with the code, but you have to open YOUR source which incorporates all the projects under these licenses as well (hence the viral part)
    Open Source and Permissive: Under licenses like MIT, BSD-3, the code base is open source for you to do what you want, commercially as well, but you can close your own source and not have to disclose what you made with any of the projects under this type of license.
    Public domain: Free to do what you want.
    There are others which permit only non commercial use, prohibit big organizations from using it for free, but broadly these are the 3 categories they fall under

  • @marcusregueiro9523
    @marcusregueiro9523 Рік тому +106

    I’m an Official crewton been watching for a year you guys helped me get clean sober 7 months now Don’t know what I’d do with out you all please don’t ever stop the cast!!!!!

    • @EvanCops
      @EvanCops Рік тому +7

      Good for you dude!*

    • @BrendanHenry
      @BrendanHenry Рік тому +9

      Way to go Marcus!!!

    • @marcusregueiro9523
      @marcusregueiro9523 Рік тому +5

      Thanks guys god bless

    • @ZorinZato
      @ZorinZato Рік тому +2

      That is so awesome, my friend! I’m sure they are very proud of you. Your fellow crewtons are!

    • @randosavich
      @randosavich Рік тому

      Nobody tell him...

  • @killerconman311
    @killerconman311 Рік тому +4

    There are some really important conversations that go on in this episode. I can normally get through an episode of the cast in one sitting, but the amount of existentialism I felt while watching this caused me break it up into multiple sittings. Keep it up, these are needed by many.

  • @tomascorrea9477
    @tomascorrea9477 Рік тому +14

    Awesome explanation on Machine Learning from Niko! I'd only add that the way Deep Learning algorithms change their weights is not entirely random, but they actually do it in the direction in which the error is minimized. So they are changing semi-randomly but they do know in which direction they should move.

    • @Veptis
      @Veptis Рік тому

      The update method that they mentioned sounds like some reinforcement learning method. Gradient descent is different as it can update weights in an informed way.
      Reinforcement learning and even deep RL are not used to train diffusion models even language models. Although some stuff might change with ChatGPT for example which uses human evaluation based judgement for rewards

  • @direktive4
    @direktive4 Рік тому +3

    Spielberg was being mindful and asked Tippett how he felt, to which he replied 'i feel extinct.' Spielberg says that's a great line, I'm putting it in the movie. Tippett goes on to say that his 'entire world was just obliterated.'

  • @Matkatamiba
    @Matkatamiba Рік тому +59

    I know he's a busy guy and not to knock the others, but the casts Niko is on are always my favorite

    • @TheAbRaMaX
      @TheAbRaMaX Рік тому +5

      He has the best views and insights on everything imo including about stable diffusion and he’s a pretty chill guy.

    • @o2by4
      @o2by4 Рік тому +4

      Niko gives great vibes

  • @JanbluTheDerg
    @JanbluTheDerg Рік тому +35

    My main fear with AI image generation goes into how I started digital art.
    See, I was entering the furry community at the time, and I wanted an OC of my own. But I didn't have the money to pay someone to design one, or to adopt one. But I did have some pen and paper, and an old drawing tablet lying around. Eventually, I managed to overcome my doubts about myself and start drawing. And the drawings were bad, but I still couldn't pay anyone to do it for me so even though I was becoming aware of big artists, I continued to draw. Then I became friends with artists who's artworks I looked up to, and I continued drawing despite the fact that my art looked bad in comparison. 4 years later, and even though it isn't as often, I'm still drawing, and I'm getting better each time.
    But if an AI could do it for me? I would have never bothered, and I think that's a shame, because I love drawing, and I especially love the progress I've made with drawing. Which I would have never bothered with if it could have been done by someone or something else. In fact, one of my friends has the money to pay for someone to draw a reference sheet, and for art of that character, and to adopt characters. And he owns a drawing tablet, but he hasn't really sat down and tried to use it all that much. It could be something he enjoys doing, or maybe not, but he might never know.
    My fear is that AI making it so easy just dwindles the artistic push that some people need to start, it acts like a high bar of entry, if you thought beginner artists unfairly comparing themselves to skilled artists is bad, how about beginner artists comparing themselves to an AI that takes a few seconds to do its thing?
    To add to this, I'm not that great at backgrounds. I'm kinda procrastinating does studies and stuff. And well, I look at what AI is generating and I'm like "Hmmmmm, those backgrounds look good" and well, it's a disturbing thought. Maybe I'd be one to get lost in putting together a background, but if I let an AI do it for me, I'll never know.
    While yes, the point about using this as a tool to democratise storytelling and make it easier for everyone involved is true, I also worry that it'll prevent people from learning a creative thing that they'll enjoy doing. Part of storytelling isn't just getting the story done, but also the problem solving and creative expression that was had along the way.

    • @dieclick3659
      @dieclick3659 Рік тому

      Well, I mean, it depends on the ambitiousness of the creator, AI will still have a limit (at least in the nowadays models) that will not be able to just create each single detail it wants, just by the mere model where machines feed from already tangible and existing concepts, in that case, if the creator really really wants to have it's project as perfect as imagined, then the creator must learn the creative skill to either, complete it, or tweak it. It's a matter of how exact does the creator trust the idea, and how much effort will be put in to make that idea as exact. Or well, that's at least the case for now.

    • @JanbluTheDerg
      @JanbluTheDerg Рік тому

      @@dieclick3659 well as they mentioned, it's moving fast. I've done a little bit of testing using my niche and it's not there, but, given some time... Who knows?

    • @Adreitz7
      @Adreitz7 Рік тому +2

      The existence of bread machines (and industrially-produced bread) has not eliminated hand-made bread. It has only eliminated the NEED for hand-made bread. Just like the invention of the camera eliminated the need for portrait artists, but there are still portrait artists in existence. Instead, the camera introduced a new medium IN ADDITION TO the medium of paint or pencil. It will be the same for AI art tools. You will have a lot more people getting into creating art because the skills required have changed and, arguably, the difficulty has been reduced, but plenty of people will still do things the "old fashioned" way. Like the guys talked about creating at the speed of thought, the key from this point on will no longer be about the mastery of the medium (though I think prompt construction at this point is still an arcane art), but about the individual having the necessary imagination and vision to create something new and compelling.

    • @dieclick3659
      @dieclick3659 Рік тому

      @@Adreitz7 yeah no I agree, the industry will not disappear yet, by sheer nature the algorithms need more new art made to keep on feeding, the same way, that the current models aren’t really good at making something new, usually the mashup of other concepts are better by humans, but it will definitely impact the community and industry in a harsh aspect, at least for now.

    • @huhulalammm
      @huhulalammm Рік тому +3

      I completely agree. there is this essence of art. and only those who keep at it can understand the essence. i'm afraid it's going to be lost. art isn't art because it is easy to do. art is art because it is a process/ a journey. but convenience is going to ruin the fun of art. im afraid production will be very one dimensional and boring in the future.

  • @unicornhuntercg
    @unicornhuntercg Рік тому +7

    So I had the podcast on pause for a while at gym doing reps. I resumed it after a while, completely forgot about what was going on then came back to Niko saying "Child porn, we all are thinking about it right?"
    I was completely baffled 😅

  • @josharghhhh
    @josharghhhh Рік тому +13

    I often chuck this podcast on late in the evening here while studying. you guys always keep me entertained. Thank you for the great content. glad the scammers lost , keen to watch new SOAD

  • @Venomhide
    @Venomhide Рік тому +3

    Honestly, one of the most underrated podcast channels out there. Would be worth to make shorts (I know YT/Insta shorts are a pain :( ) of some of the AI discussions. It would generate more traffic and some deserved exposure to the channel. Just keep doing what you peeps do, its phenomenal to listen to people with actual comprehension of the subjects!

  • @james2749
    @james2749 Рік тому +5

    I can't wait for colour correction AI that goes through your clips in Davinci and grades them to a consistent rec709 look or whatever other look

  • @fabersoul
    @fabersoul Рік тому +3

    22:01 Nikos impersonation of the stable diffusion AI 😂 he gave the Ai so much personality i believed it

  • @liamhuxhold3235
    @liamhuxhold3235 Рік тому +3

    Always love hearing you guys talk, chill and humorous yet also profound

  • @robstock
    @robstock Рік тому

    Oh wow, a Steel Beach reference at the very end! I think that’s the first time I’ve seen it mentioned in public, and it was on the Corridor Cast of all places. What a world.
    Great podcast! I agree that we’ve hit the Singularity, and it’s deeply funny somehow that it hasn’t reached the public consciousness. I wonder if that’s because of how little we were able to predict in the first place?
    I’m a traditional painter that also works in the film industry, and am just getting started as a DM, so I guess it goes without saying that I absolutely love the work you all do. As a big fan, thanks for all the hard work over the years!

  • @ilic5000
    @ilic5000 Рік тому +7

    Does anybody have the link for the video Niko is playing on his phone at 25:45?

    • @DanielRut
      @DanielRut Рік тому

      replying so i can find out too

    • @CorridorCrew
      @CorridorCrew Рік тому +4

      Here ya go: mobile.twitter.com/pess_r/status/1557517982095626241

    • @BundyFly
      @BundyFly Рік тому

      @@CorridorCrew Soo cool! Thank you!

  • @AaronGrosch29
    @AaronGrosch29 Рік тому +1

    Stormy weather, hectic week, fresh cup of coffee and a cozy chat with the Corridor Crew. Awww yeah.

  • @ReedCBowman
    @ReedCBowman Рік тому +1

    This is hands down the best CC podcast I've seen. Surely we can do a BOINC / Folding At Home style distributed project to develop a giant super model that can beat anything someone creates on their server farm, and can continuously expand. Is anyone doing this yet??

  • @Foxtrotopia
    @Foxtrotopia Рік тому +2

    This is such a good topic and I liked Niko's point that most people just start out with an idea and don't want to spend 10 years learning how to turn that idea into a real thing. I follow all the Corridor stuff but I'm a primary school teacher who will never actually become good (or at least professional) at Blender or Unreal. Maybe I could, but it's more of a side interest for me. These new tools allow people like me to take an idea and bring at least part of it to life without needing years of technical skills and training. For example, I like to mess around with language AI on things like Novel AI and AI Dungeon. Just because I have those tools doesn't mean that I'm going to stop reading books, because simply having these tools does not guarantee a good end-product. I can make really basic projects in Unreal but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop playing video games made by professional developers. Specialized knowledge in a field will always be a huge advantage and AI will not be able to completely replace that within our life time unless something REALLY crazy comes out. As impressive as language AI is, it's not going to write the next Harry Potter or Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy or 1984. Same with visual effects, simply having amazing tools at your disposal is not going to guarantee a great end result. I see this with my students as well, giving someone all the advantages in the world is a huge benefit, but it is not an "end of all things" deal. There's that human/personal element that has a massive but intangible outcome on things of a creative nature

  • @Tyler.McGrath
    @Tyler.McGrath Рік тому +2

    Thank you guys for being our portal to the evolution of VFX.

  • @syno3608
    @syno3608 Рік тому +1

    These genuine talks just hit really good man..
    Thanks corridor..

  • @obsidian....
    @obsidian.... Рік тому +1

    Appreciate the amount of personal perspectives this week *without it devolving* 🙏

  • @Aegis_Mind
    @Aegis_Mind Рік тому +3

    Whatever you think about Light and Magic, Its 3X better than what you're imagining. I cant recommend it enough for people like us. I binged it in 2 days and loved the hell out of it.

    • @solerebelsoul
      @solerebelsoul Рік тому +1

      I loved it. I though it was amazing. Binged it in 2 days too.

    • @Aegis_Mind
      @Aegis_Mind Рік тому

      @@solerebelsoul hell yeah

  • @AustinHartt
    @AustinHartt Рік тому +1

    11:16 is the title segment for those looking :)

  • @_Tuuri
    @_Tuuri Рік тому +6

    Niko was closest with the Tower of Babel. Basically they were supposed to spread out on the earth. But instead they decided to "make a name for themselves" and stayed in one spot with the Tower etc. And yep their languages got confused so groups of those who could still understand each other went away together etc.
    Great cast guys. Always fun and interesting

    • @DarthBiomech
      @DarthBiomech Рік тому

      Huh, I always thought it was sort of "hey, how dare you?!" reaction from God. Like, people were trying to build their way into heaven and that's what angered him.

  • @andrewklingler427
    @andrewklingler427 Рік тому +1

    What a fascinating conversation. Loved this episode!

  • @IGqy
    @IGqy Рік тому

    The open sources licences are very different.
    Some don't even allow the software to be bundled with software that is not open source (apache), while others just states that downstream modifications has to be shared upstream.
    It is very different. Some allow for selling, some don't.

  • @RogueNoble
    @RogueNoble Рік тому +1

    This was seriously fascinating. Thank you for providing such a thought-provoking discussion.

  • @SBM_Photo
    @SBM_Photo Рік тому +3

    I was speaking of with a police detective about forensic technology, where it’s been and where it’s going. We quickly came up with the same conclusion. The next thing forensic technology will need to innovate is how to determine if a picture or video was made by an AI.

    • @ozhinz
      @ozhinz Рік тому +1

      i feel like the inconsistencies wouldn’t be too hard to find

    • @N.E.U.R.O
      @N.E.U.R.O Рік тому

      the govt actually has a software like this that they are using for UFO investigations now

  • @someoneontheweb4303
    @someoneontheweb4303 Рік тому

    Recently found out about the podcast. Really enjoying it!

  • @Jormunduur
    @Jormunduur Рік тому +2

    I think the key take away if you're watching/listening to this podcast. Keep striving forward as humans do, just don't complain about where you are while you do it. Be content with where you are then, keep moving forward.

    • @kangtheconqueror8359
      @kangtheconqueror8359 Рік тому

      Fuck AI though-this shit is ruining art and creativity and eventually all of us. Mother fuckers don’t think long term at all.

  • @franklynd
    @franklynd Рік тому +2

    The variations aren’t random. The training uses gradient descent which changes the parameters in the direction that improves the optimization function. Random perturbation would take too long

  • @liontuga155
    @liontuga155 Рік тому

    Thanks, guys. Awesome content, as always. In line with what was discussed about telling a computer program what you want it to "create" with a simple prompt, I can totally see AI / machine learning help VR become mainstream. The prompt doesn't even have to be verbal, i.e., there's no reason it cannot be emotional or behavioural. We already have all he software pieces; the only thing missing is someone to put them together. Think Dreamscape's speculative VR environments on steroids and in real-time.

  • @Jack_Wolfe
    @Jack_Wolfe Рік тому

    43:20 ANSWER: the people selling the tool want the tool to do the one thing their tool is know for. When the people in charge dont want to change because they're focused on the money side of things, nobody in the company wants to experiment too far from home base, because they're afraid for making mistakes and loosing money.
    But as we know, as sharing creatives do, upgrades and adapting to new stuff improves our lives, so all the people out there doing the things they love like programing lines of code to make images, they have a passion for it. Then they go and share their knowledge and suddenly you have an explosion of other people wanting to do the same thing.
    But BECAUSE the internet is vast and collaborative, most companies wouldnt be able to keep up. Only buy out the rights to restrict the tech for them selves.

  • @MilkoAR
    @MilkoAR Рік тому

    How much we need this, thanks for bringing it up, humanity needs it, so badly

  • @tednoob
    @tednoob Рік тому +7

    You should do a VFX artists react to stuff featured in two minute papers videos. Would be awesome if you could have Károly be there.

    • @xerozoo
      @xerozoo Рік тому +1

      That would be soo cool

  • @andybmorse
    @andybmorse Рік тому +1

    Cannot wait for y’all to have a smart tv app! Hopefully that gets plugged away at little bit by little bit soon!

  • @D3Z_animations
    @D3Z_animations Рік тому +1

    My hot take about what Nico mentioned about things becoming less interesting over time: i have been wondering what will happen once everybody can make a movie with the click of a button. Will entertainment as a whole just become obsolete and or boring because everybody can just create movies or tv shows tailored to their own preferences? Will people even still watch the movies others made or will interest be lost because the „flair“ of movies is gone? Will a Movie just become another product of mass consumerism (well technically it is that already, but will that become even more extreme)? That is a reason I find these kinds of tools need to be enjoyed with a grain of salt, as they can surely let more people create art, but may also destroy the flair of making it (if everyone gets their own movies, who will pay money to watch those of others?)

    • @D3Z_animations
      @D3Z_animations Рік тому

      Oh and what do you with all the people of a traditional film set? The preface Niko was going with was that every single person on this planet is a Martin Scorsese and has the potential to make films or movies..but what about the labor workers like stage runners? I am not implying that a stage runner cannot also be artistic, but truth be it, the majority probably isn’t fit or doesn’t have the intention to make a movie, no matter the tools. You’re talking about taking jobs away from people that probably cannot be trained to work in the new field and that seems slightly problematic to me

  • @cescimes
    @cescimes Рік тому

    ok my first episode was with Mark, and since I don't really enjoy watching podcasts i was kinda sceptical at first, but wow
    this is my only and favorite (what a surprise) podcast that i really listen to. keep it up guys!

  • @KillerTacos54
    @KillerTacos54 Рік тому +1

    My only complaint with these podcasts is that they feel too short haha, I’d love to hear you wonderful voices longer!

  • @EvanCops
    @EvanCops Рік тому +3

    Early boi! I'm glad I'm here too. Hope everyone is well. ❤ everyone being corridor crew and corridor fan crew. Jake's right on point about discipline, you gotta keep at it. That's how you improve no matter what you do

  • @respectKevinConroy
    @respectKevinConroy Рік тому +1

    Plz add Chapter in podcast to see what topic you are own at what time.

  • @fabersoul
    @fabersoul Рік тому

    yo how do I get this software? any links?

  • @pablija5
    @pablija5 Рік тому +5

    I value Niko going there for some talking points without fear

  • @J4ME5_
    @J4ME5_ Рік тому

    there was a study that did the median civilization timeline and the average is actually 300 years, I wish I could remember where I read that

  • @Zouthoudertjes421
    @Zouthoudertjes421 Рік тому +4

    You should do a vfx artist reacts to vfx in UA-cam videos

  • @mc-zy7ju
    @mc-zy7ju Рік тому

    To Niko's big question, I dont believe they're required to confirm identities of those in the images to prosecute someone. Just being in possession of those explicit images is enough.

  • @syno3608
    @syno3608 Рік тому +1

    One of the best cast episode

  • @DunkDesign
    @DunkDesign Рік тому

    What headphones are you using guys?

  • @ryanglovka9478
    @ryanglovka9478 Рік тому +1

    Love the comparison Niko had about the Jurassic Park 3D animation game changer and the A.I. art stuff that's starting to happen! Also, did you guys see the DEEP FAKE act on America's Got Talent recently? They were doing it live and it was unbelievable!!! Also, watched "Rogue One: A Star Wars Story" recently and some really cool VFX...you guys probably did that one already, but if not....

  • @Jack_Wolfe
    @Jack_Wolfe Рік тому

    The best idea is to train an algorithm to do MORE, but you need a preset data set to train the origonal AI to do the rest of the data.

  • @fractaldisarray1518
    @fractaldisarray1518 Рік тому

    I imagine even if a company like Adobe thought of creating something like stable diffusion or midjourney, it would be a difficult project to approve of. There would be an even bigger outrage over Adobe stealing directly from it's clients to make a new product.
    At least if they were the first ones.
    When the whole AI thing becomes more commonplace and accepted, then you might get bigger companies stepping into the scene and working on their own tools.

  • @SimonBarnes
    @SimonBarnes Рік тому

    Technically it would be artifical selection, but your overall points right. Pretty awesome and easy way to improve the ai bots!

  • @williamhanna3113
    @williamhanna3113 Рік тому +1

    43:30 google does actually have 2 very impressive AI image generators called Imagen and Parti that are both Dall-E 2 levels of image quality.

  • @Mr-Blitz
    @Mr-Blitz Рік тому +2

    Does anyone know the name of the AI demo video Niko was watching? I want to find it

  • @buildingstufflike
    @buildingstufflike Рік тому

    The reason the large companies aren't developing this stuff is because they can wait and see which of the numerous companies does it best and then use their money to buy it up. Its how its gone with Adobe buying macromedia etc...

  • @dragon_of_okotoks1118
    @dragon_of_okotoks1118 Рік тому +1

    i find Ai will drasticly decrease the time of prototyping chartacters and themes ideas and such so my guess it would be the first step in prototyping before the idea gets refined into consept art

  • @Tolredan
    @Tolredan Рік тому +1

    Does anyone have a link to that video Niko was showing?

  • @Ron__Solo
    @Ron__Solo Рік тому

    You guys seem to have those bone conduction headphones all the time. Any recommendations?

  • @syno3608
    @syno3608 Рік тому +2

    The moment he brought tower of Babel 🔥🔥🔥🔥
    Mind blown....
    Was thinking about that in the back of my head .
    Reminds of jordan Petersen

  • @berlev
    @berlev Рік тому +2

    Whats the AI video Niko shows around 25:50 ?

  • @timothysnave
    @timothysnave Рік тому

    Today: "If the story was written by AI..."
    Tomorrow's AI: "New film script, based on a book by..."

  • @lastman9731
    @lastman9731 Рік тому +1

    32:43 " Dregen" 😂

  • @DeliciousDave92
    @DeliciousDave92 Рік тому

    it's very satisfying that the mic arms are symmetrical lol not sure if you did that on purpose.

  • @a.jonsson6696
    @a.jonsson6696 Рік тому

    Where can I listen to those Dan Carlin podcasts that they talked about? They sound really interesting and I can’t find them on Spotify

  • @ShaunHusain
    @ShaunHusain Рік тому

    GNU-Corridor Crew* nerd joke aside, the gpl requires source be released but can package and sell for packaging of sales or support. Depends on which gpl version used how much the license extends into derivative works and how much the derivatives depend on the implementation of the open source features.

  • @mahelaniarektbb
    @mahelaniarektbb Рік тому

    I finished Light and Magic 3 weeks ago. It's great!

  • @user-np5es9hc8p
    @user-np5es9hc8p Рік тому

    I understand Niko's point at 29:00 but strongly disagree on the part regarding everyone wanting to ideally skip using software and just have a final image. A lot of artist do what they do, living and breathing the process of creating art either digitally or traditionally for more than just the final image. To say ideally everyone wants to skip that and just type words to generate pictures is something I can't get behind. Not to say I will not have to adapt and use AI generate imagery in my workflow in the future...but there are still aspects of CGI that feel more hand-crafted compared to other more mundane tasks such as throwing around mega scans in a scene and hitting render.

  • @Derpduck.
    @Derpduck. Рік тому +1

    Can you guys put this on Amazon Music? I would listen all of the time if you did that.

  • @northernlyn
    @northernlyn Рік тому

    Im kinda late to this one. But i have to say as far as AI goes. Which is you have my exact mentality but with art. A lot of artists are worried AI art creation is going to take their jobs. "why pay someone to make this when i can make it myself", and its a valid concern. Although i have a different viewpoint. I use ai generation as a tool to help enhance my art. I use it to make reference, instead of pulling from 1000 different reference images and piece a single scene with them together i can just generate a single reference image that has everything i need. It helps me practice by randomly generating a random pose, image, environment for me to use.
    Its all a matter of perspective. People probably had the same thoughts with digital art. "why paint it for real when you can do it digitally and get all these amazing features with it". End of the day its just a tool, how you use it is how useful it is. And yes, there will probably be people who have that "why pay for it when i can generate it for free", thats gonna exist no matter where you look in every field. But there will always be a market for something hand made too. Thats why people still pay for "digital and traditional artwork" if that makes sense.
    Long message, but i just found this episode and conversation really facinating

  • @ginogarcia8730
    @ginogarcia8730 Рік тому

    23:55 Jordan that's the singularity 😀

  • @castortoutnu
    @castortoutnu Рік тому

    A LEGO dragon? You don't need to spend 10 years learning CG, you just need a lifetime of LEGO building

  • @APrettyGoodChannel
    @APrettyGoodChannel Рік тому +1

    Being able to draw/3D model/photoshop/etc and people being happy to buy the art I want to make has meant being able to generate any image I want as an option for years (depending on how much effort I'm willing to put in) and I don't see this causing any real issues there just because of speed. AI in general I expect will mean the end/replacement of humanity though, but I'm personally okay with that.
    A lot of it gets extreme (not illegal or the type of content mentioned here), and I don't understand why anybody would talk about it needing to be something which others infringe upon others for - just like all of corridor's violent video content, it's not real, and there's no victims. The people who do awful stuff to others, whether violent or otherwise, have usually been seeming to come from an entirely different angle to me, with ideology and maybe even difference in neurological development. If anything, people getting it out of their system would seem more likely as a benefit.

  • @esaedvik
    @esaedvik Рік тому

    Remember when someone looked up the size of Twitter's R&D department? I think it was Niko? I saw somewhere that FB had over 1 million users per engineer when they reached 500M users in 2010 and that number has been increasing steadily. They're probably going to break 3 billion users this year.

  • @samholmes558
    @samholmes558 Рік тому

    It's hard to summarize ML concisely, but gradient descent is really not "randomly making changes" at all...

  • @westleyleonstudios
    @westleyleonstudios Рік тому

    I've been trying to gain discipline and I don't know why I can't... It's getting so depressing and I don't know WTF to change my mental perspective around... I wish I was able to surround myself with people like y'all... I'm just so.. tired....

  • @mrskate7771
    @mrskate7771 Рік тому

    I happy to say i have been a crewton since 2012

  • @kamenomagic
    @kamenomagic Рік тому +1

    the morality question about pedophiles reminded me of watching black mirror and pondering the question of "why is it immoral to torture a computer (the digital consciousnesses)?" (assuming that the digital consciousnesses are not "conscious" in whatever definition; that's another discussion) I ultimately thought that it has an effect on the torturer, and everyone around it which is a huge negative effect. Even when the victim can't experience pain/be tortured, there are effects and victims that stem from that
    I don't know, what do people think?

    • @grandtyrant2482
      @grandtyrant2482 Рік тому

      A little bit to add. The reason God decided to confound them and destroy the tower was they were trying to basically go around God. They were trying to build their way to heaven. God then struck them down. The flood isn't too far after this but same reason people started to be way to prideful. Like Jake said it's a lesson taught through a story

  • @NotNahtan
    @NotNahtan Рік тому

    in some cases and countries it actually is illegal to draw and share certain content
    in the case you guys were talking about, it doesnt have to be a real child

  • @NotNahtan
    @NotNahtan Рік тому

    midjourney is using stable diffusion in their beta right now too

  • @johnnymartinez8668
    @johnnymartinez8668 Рік тому

    Lmao smoking the reefer. I am now subscribed

  • @artscreations5
    @artscreations5 Рік тому +1

    i feel like if everything will be automatically done with AI , we are going to loose the taste of ,making things , hardtimes pass , but their the only ones that make us motivating , if AI killls that , it's gamer over

  • @bananasandbass
    @bananasandbass Рік тому

    The book Nico described at the end has a different name when I read it: The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. But he calls it Steel Beach… what’s going on?
    Anyway, I’m glad I read that before The Expanse came out 😃 it has so much similarities.

    • @bananasandbass
      @bananasandbass Рік тому +1

      Ok I just found out that these are 2 different books, they start with the same premise. Or almost. Cuz in the one I read the moon is a colony that’s trying to get independent from earth, like the USA from the UK once before. But it also has the tunnels, domes, central computer AI that talks to everyone at the same time. I guess one of these writers kindo stole one idea but made into a different outcome.

  • @Harshhaze
    @Harshhaze Рік тому

    Jordan talking about running up on these opps. Flexing that e d u c a t i o n

  • @fluxophile
    @fluxophile Рік тому

    I implore everyone who dismisses AI skepticism with "it's just a tool, like everything else humans have done", to listen to the Living The Line podcast (on YT) with David McKean from early August.
    This is a quantum leap that instantly launches us past anything we've done in the history of our species - technical development that will improve faster than we understand it. Its impact on art will have huge implications on the way we think, build a shared concept of reality, and what we choose to spend our time doing in a very immediate sense.
    Why watch someone else's amazing AI content, when yours - tailored specifically to your tastes - is even more compelling?

  • @EdLrandom
    @EdLrandom Рік тому

    You guys are wrong about open-source being "license makes it not open source", there is a variety of open-source and free software, free as in liberty licensees. All of them allow for any use including commercial. A very special license is GPL, it allows for use of code for anything, it allows forking, so making your own program with this code but it demands any fork to use the same GPL license. If not for GPL and similar licenses, for-profit companies would have a crazy advantage of being able to close off their source code, only sell binaries, use anyone's open-source code for free, change it a little and sell it back to everyone. GPL prevents essentially creating a world where even for-profit companies have to publish their modified code if they don't want to write literally everything from scratch. There are open-source licenses like the MIT license, that actually just allows for any use and any fork, this is how apple based their IOS on BSD while making it fully closed off.

  • @MrQynchou
    @MrQynchou Рік тому

    kinda scary tbh, hope you guys make a crew video using these AIs to generate something cool

  • @stan_p
    @stan_p Рік тому +1

    nice

  • @BioshadowX
    @BioshadowX Рік тому

    I think the difference with CP is that these images are directly based on existing images of children and using them as a basis to create sexual content. A real child was in some way involved in the creation. That's a big enough reason to send someone to jail and ties it back to, well all of these images are likely coming from some kind of "owned" source. Some sources are just used for more despicable purposes.

  • @classicus9933
    @classicus9933 Рік тому

    I wonder if in the future there'll be groups or camps where people come together to create Art or Media in the old ways, just like survivalists today trying to make a fire in the wild without modern tools

  • @tednoob
    @tednoob Рік тому

    In Sweden you can get thrown in jail for drawing a picture. It has to do with protecting children in that it could drive someone to go further. You also have the Miller Test in the US, which would make some of that illegal too.

  • @andrewhay3613
    @andrewhay3613 Рік тому +1

    Check out the Vizcom AI. Sketch to render and they have from a 2D profile to a 3D rendered image it's insansme

  • @anapple.4338
    @anapple.4338 Рік тому +1

    Can we get another episode with Steve the landlord?

  • @mf--
    @mf-- Рік тому +1

    Generated images by machine or human should not be criminalized just as books should not be criminalized. I think that stance has to be unmovable or what is acceptable will change with whomever makes the laws . Yeah, there will be some messed up and creepy stuff but that is a consequence of having freedom.

  • @TheDrWes
    @TheDrWes Рік тому

    So the real money maker is to have multiple specialized AI's working as director, writer, visual effects artist, and editor, and integrate these to work together.

  • @TiagoTiagoT
    @TiagoTiagoT Рік тому

    57:28 If you generate a photo of someone getting their head blown off by gunshot; no one questions the legality of that, right? Even if that could inspire people in real life etc. So how does that play with Jake's argument there?

  • @Jeffool
    @Jeffool Рік тому +2

    Jordan worries about how will the law catch up technology, and thinks maybe it will constantly fall further behind the tech... That it'll be the new Wild West. But that was UA-cam at one point too. Then Viacom sued UA-cam for copyrighted Viacom video that Viacom uploaded, and things went sideways. We're in the Wild West of AI art generation NOW, and soon laws and Washington will come west, and we'll have a new generation of people complaining about the stringent rules in place. They'll long for 2022, when AI art tools were harder to use, but offered a feeling of unrealized potential, the peaks of which seemed unimaginable. (Just like people like me, in our 40s, still pine for the Internet from the 90s, sometimes. Kinda.)

  • @ToastAndDonut
    @ToastAndDonut Рік тому +1

    cool

  • @syno3608
    @syno3608 Рік тому

    @11:11