(1188) Review: Sparrows REVOLVER Lock Pick Training Lock
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Sparrows just released a new lock pick training lock, the 4-sided "revolver". The revolver allows you to pin up each of the 4-banks with different pins -one standard, one spools, one serrated, and one full of "surprise" pins to challenge yourself. A very flexible training aid to help you learn lock picking at an accelerated rate.
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Bought this lock after watching this review two years ago and still play with it today. Love it
Sweet, just got my monstrum kit a few days ago and am having trouble with security pins locks. This is my next purchase for sure, seems like the best idea so far for a practice lock.
I just found this channel and boy, oh boy where has it been all my life? Bill your content is as binge worthy as any Netflix series and educational to boot! Subbed.
I ordered one of those it took a couple of weeks to get it.but ever since I got it I can’t put it down. Thank you for your video. It’s the best addition I have ever had lol.it’s really helped me.
This is awesome! I bought my first set of picking tools today and I'm going to order this to play with and learn the hobby! What an awesome thing! Love it has progressive difficulty
haha Some companies are a trip. On sparrows website for this at the bottom of the description is this:
INCLUDED
THE REVOLVER lock and a tin with some shiny stuff.
Shiny stuff..!? Say no more, you got me at shiny, I'll take 3...
hey man i just got mine about a week ago and the shiny stuff is nice, got mine to spin just tonight for 4 times in a row with the original bitting and 5 pins, im now repinning with all skill pins and 6 pins. better than a fidgit cube i tel you!!!
I just got one of these as a training aid. So far so good
Very interesting and unique lock for continuing practice to become proficient at lock picking. From beginner to advanced. Thanks Bill appreciated.
Took me about 3 seconds to decide to order this. Great review for what looks like an awesome training product
thank you again Bosnianbill, i came across your youtube videos about 9 months ago and now I'm hooked. looking for my first pick set. thanks again
This is so awesome. All in one training, with room to advance.
I just completed my first full rotation today but I started by taking out the fifth pins to help work my way up from 4 pins to 5 pins and finally to 6, it’s really rewarding to know that a full rotation (even though it’s only on 4 pins per lot) is within my capabilities, I look forward to re-pinning to 5 pins soon
Awesome training lock from Sparrows, and a lockpick set from Bill!!!
That last suggestion of buying the standard cutaway and the Reload Kit. . . Excellent. So very good. I will be doing just that. Thank you so much!
That sure would look nice on my work bench. Great review Bill.
I think I have watched all you vids, just have not popped on a set and training lock. This looks awesome for a new guy.
Oh man that is so cool! Would be super fun and handy. Thanks Bill!
Bah I want this thing. :D
Ohhh, here is hoping Christmas might be good this year!
Thanks for another opportunity.
Would love to get my hands on one of these - have just started out picking, and have exhausted my supply of cheapo locks, and I need to move to something intermediate. Will definitely look into this.
nice little Video my Friend! also very well done by Sparrows!👍☺
Awesome Training lock by the looks, looking forward to getting my hands on one!
Oh man... just got mine in the mail after watching this and needing some practice on security pins, and damn sparrow, what a key job! Confirmed: All keys are not alike! Mine has a 1 cut at the back of the keyway, followed by two 8 cuts, then a 2 and a 7. I don't even have a deep enough hook, or hooked diamond to reach that last pin. Thankfully my 6 pin key is the same as the one in the video, so I guess I'm skipping that step and graduating to 6 pins until I find some different picks!
PS- This is years late from the original post, but I discovered this channel and have been binge watching all these videos since. LOVE THEM! Thank you so much!
That is SOOO going on my Christmas list!
I recently got one of these, and it really is nicer than I expected. The tolerances are nice. It feels really solid. The one that I got had pretty good biting (a little challenging), but that is apparently not the same for all of them. Another point to Sparrow's credit: The stamp on the key was mangled up some on mine. I felt a little dumb complaining, but I mostly wanted this as a desk-piece, so I contacted them. They replied really fast and cut me a new one to match the bitting, and shipped it out to me. The amount of trouble they went to to replace a key with a cosmetic issue was impressive. I'm a Sparrows fan.
I've been finding sparrows products top notch lately, I've had one of their short hooks, that feels like it would survive a nuclei blast. very impressed.
I replaced all my SouthOrd picks with Sparrows picks a while ago, their steel is so much better MUCH higher yield point. Even the 15 thou picks are super robust.
Another great video Bill! Finally Sparrows have a training lock to fit in my hands comfortably!
Great video, Bill. Another really good product from Sparrows. This is really handy to be able to learn from.
I’m brand new to lock picking so this looks very interesting indeed. However, I couldn’t win a kick in a riot so it looks like it’s off to the lockpick store for me.
Advancing my skills. As well as teaching my kids 11, 14 &16 to appreciate locksports.
What a great training lock, And great info Mr.Bill. Your the man 🔫
Wow! Really cool design! Love Sparrows stuff!
Be aware that if you remove a pin, say, pin 5, make SURE you remove it from every other "lock" too. If you do one and then rotate it, it will jam up and destroy springs. Ask me how I know this...............
Sparrows really should include an instructional sheet or at least a warning on this. (for noobs like me)
Sparrows also did this review earlier in the week. I thought i resembled t&j's lock but with this its easier to work with. Sweet review as always bos keep chuggin!
When you wait on slowass US postal service I want mine now
Spoiled by Amazon 2 day shipping
I'm in Berlin and they shipped it to me in two days, over a weekend, from Canada. No idea how they manage that.
I had their check pins cut away. Now I'm waiting for this for a challenge now. I think this will help with an odd hole I have in my picking skills.
That looks like a great practise lock. Keep up the great videos and reviews Bill, they really are great!
Cool tool for learning! Thanks for the review!
This is probably the best thing I've come across since my cutaway training locks a couple years ago. Very fun to have on hand. 4 locks pinned however you like, in 1! How cool is that?
ITS AWSOME! im a beginner and i love mine! just beginning to re-pin it now!
This would be ideal for holding in hand as you mentioned. But since I just got their progressive set and the reload kit, I will hold off on this one for now. What a great concept tho. Very nice.
Thank you for all the videos you put out I am new to all this and I have order my first set of picks the tuxedo from sparrow. I am waiting for it to come in at the moment so excited. And I've spent hours watching your videos learning what to do. Thanks again and God bless!
Gentlemen, welcome back to the shop
Great lock for learning. Nice finish by the looks of it :)
Bill I’ve been watching a lot of your videos I’m new to Lock picking only been picking about a year I ordered the revolver from sparrows I got it today it is the only practice lock I have to practice on other than real locks my question is do they all come progressively harder in each position? I surprised myself because I went through the whole thing in under a minute and I am definitely new to this, so do I have some kind of skill or did I just get lucky LOL. I’ve done it a few times already and I haven’t opened it yet to change or look at any pins.
Thanks bill for awesome review, as always
That training lock looks great!
looks a lot better than the practice locks that I got with the Night School kit with the terrible casting and machine work that makes them almost impossible to pick, even with the cutaway.
Cool piece of kit
bought one and received it earlier this week and i can confirm that the key is different than the one you have.
Got mine. Was unable to pick anything so I took out 5th pin. Still not able. Now the key won't turn. Cores locked up or something.
Do I need to take the revolver apart?
Follow up..
Yup I took it apart. This is when I learned that there's a second set of pins! Drivers maybe? Anyway I had mixed them up resulting in core not turning.
Got it all put back together. Just the way I want it too :) 4 standard -> 5 standard -> 3 stan 2 mush -> 3 stan 2 serrated
:) Still can't pick the damn thing but learning a ton
Very useful review,thanks.
one fine training lock
Another cool product from sparrows.
Great vid. Thanks Bill
Wondering now since I can pick this pretty proficiently if Sparrows could have added another 4 bibles? Since I know the picking orders now I'm planning on replacing the plug with a schlage I have sitting around at home - hopefully that'll change up the binding order...
Well done! I even like the finish.
I've been wanting to start locking picking as a hobbie. This looks like a nice kit to start with, and easy to carry a few locks in one that makes life easy.
If I don't win this I think I'll go and buy it. That's a pretty cool training lock.
Might make a decent start for a challenge lock
Looks really interesting indeed.
Are any of the chambers threaded? I would like to see the 9 position threaded so we can feel the difference of serrated in smooth chambers vs serrated in threaded chambers. In my limited experience the threaded chambers do make a difference, especially if you have a razors edge on a homemade spool.
Pretty cool device
this would be so nice to keep me busy on train travels :) really like to learn this stuff, made me think over quite a bit of locks I am going to use in the future.
Cool looking device.
Looks nice, let's you also not pick the same keying multiple times in a row so you learn the feel of the pins as a pose to the specific configuration of pins.
Looks epic to start on.
This whould be a great practice lock.
Hope to win this, a good kit for learning.
You gotta love Sparrows! :)..
Nice revolver!!
1:49 ... mine was keyed super high, super low, super high super low super high (or is it the opposite, pins 2 and 4 are short to the point where you can barely see where the key had been cut for them while pins 1,3,5 are long, not quit to the warding but still pretty long), so a pretty tough pinning and definitely not the same as what yours was keyed.
One thing I would like to note about this lock that is pretty obvious when you think about it but an easy mistake to make since most cores don't have multiple pins, if you remove the pin from the core, make sure to not turn a full 90+ degrees unless you have already removed the other 3 pin locations pins as well, real easy way to get a pin to drop into the empty chamber and screw up the spring if you forget... I didn't even think about it and ended up screwing up a spring in one of the security lock sides when I had removed the pin from spot 5 on the no security pin row to start practicing with a 4 pin set up, but forgot to remove pin 5 from the other 3 chambers.
Nice givaway Bill!
Awesome channel.
Great product!Great review!!!
Awesome, wanting to get in on the fun myself. Would be a great way to enter locksporting if I won!
Picked one up and noticed my 5-pin key is different from the one in Bill's video. I couldn't find a perfectly clear frame showing his 6-pin key, but it looks to be suspiciously similar.
Hey Bill, long time no comment. Had to ask, is the Schlage keyway restrictive to the point that the standard Tuxedo .025 picks won't fit easily? I worry about buying the Revolver here soon and not having picks that will fit past the warding properly.
Cheers!
0.025 is usually too wide for Schlage, I'd recommend 0.015" instead. 0.025" CAN work if none of the pins is cut very high, otherwise you're out of luck.
good review
This is pretty cool
This thing looks awesome. Hope to win it!!
Damn now that's a cool idea.
i LOVE this lock as a new picker it has humbled me lol...how to i beat the serraded pins!
I was hoping to see you do this, and bam, yup did
Ok, this is weird...I just got this thing in today. I was able to pick every single stage of this (without the 6th pin). Raked it, SPP'd it, City raked it...all 4 positions. And I'm not a fantastic lock picker. I have much more trouble...MUCH more trouble, with Sparrows challenge locks. Did they change this recently to make it easier?
HOLY CRAP! I need this in my life yesterday....lol~!
Bill this lock is VERY difficult to pick. I can't get pins to bind without a ton of pressure. Any advice?
Hmm. Watching this I imagined an actual lock that required a different key at each quarter turn point to unlock. That would be evil. It would also be good in a mystery novel!
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Not gonna lie, I like that revolver Bill.
i want one of these now
After watching your master lock videos you’ve said they make good bodies on some of them but garbage cores so would you suggest getting a master lock but replacing the core?
My key was cut very knarly. Super challenging.
do you recommend getting this one or the 7 Pin Ultimate Adversary Practice Lock ?
You’re comparing apples to oranges, so it depends on what you’re looking for. For quick training on different pins in a lock with fairly loose tolerances, I’d opt for the 6-pin Revolver. To develop advanced techniques and refine my “feel”, I’d opt for the 7-pin Ultimate Adversary lock because the tolerances are quite a bit tighter. Like everything in life, you get exactly what you pay for.
@@bosnianbill i went for the 7-pin ultimate adversary lock , i was also looking at the Multipick Premium Super-Set Cylinder Repinnable Practice Lock but i wasnt sure if this just the same kind of deal . is it worth having all three , just new to this hobby and wanting to increase my skill level ,
loving all your videos , keep doing what your doing .
thanks
@@weesupersteve Again, you are comparing Apples to Oranges... The LearnLockPicking cores are typical US keyways and construction. When you want to expand your skills further into very paracentric keyways, and yet MORE precision in manufacture, that is what the Euro cylinders are excellent for. Multipick is known for their precision-made, extremely high quality products, and their training locks are no exception. When you are ready for a good a$$-whipping and some hard lessons, grab one of their locks.
Pretty cool
Hi, why dont the pins fall into the bottom of the keyway?
Broughman9 I’m also curious about this. It could make tensioning difficult.
I think you'd have trouble with T pins but standard diameter security pins should be fine.
When you’re milling out plugs, typically on a arbor press, you can make the bottom peen over a little, letting the pins glide over the turning plug.
Damn thats awesome! great idea
so once you use the key to get to position 2 youre stuck there until you pick it back or are they all matched to the same key just with diff pin types?
Each position is keyed to the same key. The difference is the top pin security/standard types loaded at each position, as Bill states during the video.
I want one. Shame it's a Schlage keyway though - almost never see those here in the UK.
In theory, you should be able to swap out the core to something you are more familiar with. Might be worth it.
Actually you can't, almost ever... different spacing between the pin chambers for almost EVERY keyway. For example (from my ACTUAL first while of learning locksmithing... so yeah, I assumed the same, a lot of folks do at first,,, please do not assume by the length of this post that I'm trying to call you out, it's honestly a common mistake, and I'm just trying to clarify the "why" fully), So, let's say...
You have a customer who has four Schalge locks and one Kwikset, they want them all keyed alike... You can't just change out the cylinder plug "core" on the Kwikset... there's different spacing in the chambers that contain the pin stack, So, to get them all on one key, they need to get at least one new lock.... There's almost NO way to make it work, without essentially machining a new lock "core" for them from scratch.
On top of that, there's even different tolerances and manufacturing difference between different manufacturers that vary enough to make the lock inoperable, even on the same keyway if you just swap out the plug (or core)... Don't get me wrong... it would make things a LOT easier to work on if manufacturers made them to a universal standards... but it would also result in a lot less variances between makes and models and keyways, and THAT'S where the security against picking and "try out keys" comes in...
So often, you can't even just swap out the "cores" even if it's the same keyway because of different tolerances between manufacturers... In THEORY a Schalge C "core" from a lock made for an off brand store SHOULD work perfectly with the rest of a brand name Schlage, Schlage C keyway lock... but they don't always, in fact, they don't a fair amount of the time, without modification to something... There's SOME generic manufacturers that maintain OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer's) standards in terms of "core" diameter and length... but even with the same keyway, you CAN'T count on that... because something might be machined to +/- 0.003in off the OEM... and BAM... lock doesn't work. Add to that the REST of the components needed to make a lock functional... like if the retainer cap has the same threading, or the retaining spring and pin are the same diameter as the OEM, or the tailpiece is the right with and thickness to even fit into the bolt work...
With something like this, that uses the Schlage C keyway, but is completely proprietary, with no guarantee of OEM specs... AND it doesn't work like ANYTHING that even Schlage makes... No... I wouldn't even try swapping out that core with another brand name OEM Schalge... .
Another part of locksmithing that SHOULD make sense intuitively... but it don't, you just have to know it... it's enough to make ya wanna pull your hair out sometimes... lol
It would be still good to practise on though wouldn't it?
Derek Broestler you don't know until you try it.
And please learn not to ramble.....for all our sakes.
If you'd read and processed my whole "rambling" (detailed) comment you'd realize that I explained why you can try it all you want, it ain't gonna work.
Since I don't have spacing and specs for EVERY lock manufacturer in the world memorized, I can't rule out the possibility that one exists that will work perfectly, but considering the number of factors involved, and considering the tolerances involved, the chances of finding it at random is about the same as hitting the Mega Millions jackpot, four times in a row, with the same number...
Wow, that thing is awesome..! I wonder if Sparrows will have some sort of Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale... I think I'll wait and see before I invest...
OMG this would be perfect to learn on
Where do I sign up to win the other revolver?
Hopefully you see this comment?
Would you recommend the Revolver over the Sparrows Progressive cut away locks as a better learning tool?
I would like both but unfortunately I can only afford one right now.........Thanks Bill.
I think the Revolver would be more convenient and easier to keep track of since it is 4 cylinders-in-one. You can pin up each bank differently and never have to worry about keeping track of different lock cylinders. PLUS, it is easier to hold in your hand while picking.