that is very cool I agree :-) with good pruning also, you can plant two trees together with about a foot apart and prune one to grow to the right and the other to the left, in effect acting as one tree. this is a great concept also and works great for verity's that need cross pollinating and requires no grafting skills :-)
I followed your instructions on the cherrie back in August 2022. I put 7 seeds in a towel ,put cinnamon, sprayed with water wrap them up put in frigidaire. Checked in January 2023 they all had roots hooray. They are now about 4"tall when do I transplant them. I have 7 more in frigidaire with tint roots. Thanks lots of fun
Vise grip pliers adjusted just tight enough to not crush the seed inside will crack the pits easier than the diagonal cutters. It can be done with just eaten pits or dried pits.
I have sweet cherries .only one tree and they self pollinate every year . I live in Northern Ireland and weathers not great but they still grow. My main problem is keeping birds away 😮😮
Thanks for the update and if you give me a thumbs up again this will be the fourth or fifth time you have done that and I really appreciate it . Thanks 😊. Good to know your cherry plants are doing well.
Your videos are wonderful! I live in The Netherlands and I already have grown two cherry trees and now I want to plant them on the ground. So your videos are really useful for me! Thank you very much for your knowledge and advice!
i bought 2 big used pickle containers 50 gal all HDPE rated safe for drinking the tops covered with fabric keep mosquitos away used this for my garden basically like a rain barrel but cheaper.
I live in Germany, just paid 7 euro for a 1kg of cherries. Got my mind working then come across your videos. So as it stand now my seeds are soaking in water. Thanks for the help, I’ll keep you updated. 🎉
Pl first remove outer cell by soft hammering then dip all seeds in hydrogen per oxide. H2O.for 15-20 mts. Next keep All seeds in paper towel,spray Water. Next fold paper.Again Spray. Keep all seeds in lock Plastic small bag for 15days. Will see all seeds r germinated. Then put in cocopit+ composit soil.Keep Them in shadow.see result. Dankase.
Great energy in your video series on cherries. Thank you very much. May God guide you to the truth, submitted to Him and glorifying Him with each good deed you do. In response to your invitation to share thoughts on why some seeds come as empty pods, hopeless, and others superior and beneficial: The differences are God’s design and a demonstration that helps us to know how our societies should work. While plants cannot think and so cannot conscientiously give to others, people can. In between are animals: wild animals develop as God wills, and domesticated animals develop under human custody but still within the limits that God specifies.
How are the saplings doing now? I’ve got a cherry tree I started from seed around 2.5 yrs ago now… it’s about 70cm tall now! I’m wondering if I should prune it or not because it’s very tall but there’s only 2 side shoots. It would be great to see an update for yours 😀.
I'm sure glad I found you I'm listening to you now I lived Baird Texas how many trees am I supposed to plant so they can pollinate each other I guess I got about 25 seeds now I'm going to play in the mall and I'm going to plant them in a great big brown pot I live in West Texas and it gets cold here and sometimes it snows thank you so much for telling us it really helps thank you
I always heard the talk that fruits don't grow true to seeds. On the Island that I'm from, all the fruits that we grow are true to seeds. You eat a fruit, you drop the seed, the plant grows up, it bares fruits similar to the fruit that the seed came from. All except grafted fruits like eastindian and Julie mangoes.
yeah, not all fruits grow similarly to the one eaten, for instance, Cherries do not grow true to seed, meaning that the fruit will not be the same as the one the seed came from. It will be a big genetic gamble, you may get a fine tree that grows well in your climate or you maybe get a poor tree. The possibilities are endless, it could exhibit any number of qualities from its parents and lineage. One way to get around this, and we will cover it in a future video when our cherry trees are ready, is to graft them. So in essence we will be using the seed-grown plant as a rootstock to support a grafted cherry that produces and grows well. Also bear in mind that you will need a minimum of 2 genetically distinct plants for cross-pollination. Hope that helps @blackbway 🙃 Happy growing 🌱🍒🍒🍒
My cherry tree seedlings bloomed at 5 years. Both sweet and sour. This is their fifth year so I have not tasted them yet, as it is spring. Some plum seedlings can bloom after three years. For seedlings, there really is no set time because of the genetics and location where they are planted (less/more sun, poor/good soil, heavy/sandy soil.) My well water had been going towards alkaline as well but not as seriously as yours. I too water potted plants with water adjusted for pH. I have rain barrels as well.
I had a similar problem when I moved into my house. I didn't realize the water softener just adds salt to the water so every time I watered my plants I was sending them to an early grave. I'm glad I figured it out before I killed my great grandpa's plants from the 1950s.
I guess i will need a cold room and plant all my stone fruits in large pots. In the winter time i will just roll them into the cold room and take them out on the spring. That might work on the tropics.
it might do if you keep your trees small enough and have a cold room large enough. Maybe buy a grafted cherry tree to test it out sooner and see if it fruits :-)
Hello, your tutorial is very good. I made the cherry core with the method you described. I have a question. I transferred the core to the pot with the roots..Please tell me what I should do to maintain it.
Im hoping mazzard cherry seeds sprout I just orderd to have great rootstock to graft with. I will try techniques that you have shown. Im also trying fresh cherry seeds right now that are in the refrigerator. Do regular seeds work decent for rootstock? I see most varieties in nursery on Mazzard.
Just a question to Greenthumbs... in your first post where you crack open the cherry nuts and one is empty of seed... you say you'll take it back to Mercadona... you in Spain where the climate is warmer than the climate in UK where your north-east UK accent suggests you're from?
We have a huge very mature apricot tree (around 20ft tall) which has been a big disappointment. Since we only moved in two years ago we only have the last two years to go by. Last year we got a total of 18 fruit. Very nice but that's a pathetic crop from such a huge tree. This year, so far we can only see 8 fruit (not yet ripe). I have my suspicion that the problem is that there are no other apricot trees (that I know of) in the area. Unfortunately we really don't have anywhere to put another tree so my plan is to grow some more using store bought apricots. Then grafting these onto our large tree. Although these grafts may not produce very good fruit, they may provide the vital genetic variety to pollenate the rest of the tree. What do you reckon?
according to experts growing trees from seeds, it has a rate of 30 percent chance that they will grow into healthy trees. This is why sellers sell grafted trees.
Cherries do not grow true to seed, meaning that the fruit will not be the same as the one the seed came from. It will be a big genetic gamble, you may get a fine tree that grows well in your climate or you maybe get a poor tree. The possibilities are endless, it could exhibit any number of qualities from its parents and lineage. One way to get around this, and we will cover it in a future video when our cherry trees are ready, is to graft them. So in essence we will be using the seed-grown plant as a rootstock to support a grafted cherry that produces and grows well. Also bear in mind that you will need a minimum of 2 genetically distinct plants for cross-pollination. Hope that helps Space Chimp 🙃 Happy growing 🌱
Have you tried lemon root stock with a graft from the tree the fruit came from? How important is it to seal cuts in the bark?, especially on cherry trees.
No I have not tried this, I'll will have e to research it. I'm growing some lemon seedling now that I plan to graft one day... but they got quite a bit of growing to do first. I dont bother sealing any cuts if its just pruning. if your grafting however, then you just need to wrap it tight with some grafting tape, no sealing product needed.
Is it possible to grow an "Evans Bali Cherry Tree" from seeds, with the tree that sprouts being a true Evans Bali Cherry Tree? I have seen Evans Bali Cherry Tree seeds available online, but am wondering if I would actually end up with a true Evans Bali.
@@GreenthumbsGarden im definitely interested in how they are doing I've got a couple of small ones myself I started from seed im curious on if they survived winter
Hi Feyi, I don't think in Ghana the winter is cold enough :-/ Cherries generally need a cold winter "chill hours" to trigger flowering and fruit production. You will find online some "cherry varieties" like Surinam cherry, Brazilian cherry, and Barbados cherry that is more suited to warmer climates, but they are only "cherries" in name and do not share any similarities with the prunus family. Hope that helps Feyi, Happy Growing 🌱😊
@@GreenthumbsGarden Thank you very much for the education. However, can the other varieties suitable for the tropics be grafted unto the prunus family? There are some parts in Ghana that are very cold, so I will still try them. I have started the germination process?
I cant think of cherry variety's suited to the tropics. Are you in Ghana? maybe the winters are cold enough I'm not sure,. This article is worth reading www.goodfruit.com/breeding-cherries-for-hot-climates/
well it will be a gamble, you wont get the same rainier cherry, it will contain some genetics but it will be random of what you get, it will be a wild Cherrie tree that I hope will fruit for you. To get the same Rainier they are multi grafted to achieve the final tree. Now once your tree is big enough and if you can locate a tree that you know produces well, you can take a bud or branch from that and graft it in the future. this is what we'l be doing hopefully down the line.
clay soil is difficult, you could dig a big trench when you plant to grow the cherry and amend the soil to make it more drainable just make sure the land in not in a bowl as water will pool in and not drain away
Hi . I've just put my cherry seeds in fridge March 25 2022. I'm in East Tennessee USA. After a month in fridge and they have roots, Should I keep them inside near sunny window til Fall and cooler weather
Awesome Janet!!! Yeah give them a nice protected spot where they can get some nice bright light. Careful not too close to the window though as it could burn it.
Those holes in your leaves look like slug damage...slugs like to hide/ live under the pots then come out at night to feed on your leaves...They come out especially after a rain...pick them up with toilet paper and flush them away. Potted plants give them a home underneath and a banquet table above....Get them !!
I would guess silica sand additive might have killed some plants since it absorbs water vapor, thus depriving plants of moisture while appearing watered.
Hmm thanks Natalya, that info is new to me and I quickly looked it up. I never knew silica actually could absorb water due to the micro pores in it. I've always used it mainly as an ingredient for my carnivorous plant mixes as it is an inert material, helps aerate the media and give good drainage.
Hi! Nice video. Any updates? I have a cherry tree seedling that I grew from the seed of a cherry from the supermarket around three years ago. Please could you look at the video on my channel of the cherry tree and tell me what I should do next? (I Hope it will bear fruit in some years) Thank you!
Hi Lucy, great job with the cherry tree! Ill have an update soon on mine, there is several out already if you check the playlist :-) your tree has come on great, what do you plan to do with it, keep it in a pot or will you plant it in the ground? I think it will be ready for its first hard prune, but its a little late in the year for that now. Id leave it as it is for this year, and decide if you will keep it in a pot or put it in the ground, then get ready to give it its first hard prune at the end of winter, a few weeks before spring. I need to make some vids on this. I also highly recommend this book, Grow a Little Fruit Tree amzn.to/3H2LFxZ youl love it.
@@GreenthumbsGarden thanks I’ll definitely check out the vids and the book. I’m think I’m going to keep it in a pot as garden space is limited…in the meantime should I fertilize it with anything in particular?
That's strange normally RO water that is been correctly filtered should be slightly acidic, around 6-6.5 pH. Maybe your filters need a change? It should be fine for the cherry's. My problem is that our well water is super high in salts and is causing me many issues in general with plants that can't tolerate the high amount. Your tap water probably will be adequate.
Cannot find anything on intimate and are very curious can you put a cherry seeds directly into the ground say for instance you eat a cherry take out the little stone and put it directly into the ground on an unused piece of land what is the likelihood of it germinating and turning into a tree thank you anyone can help with this as I'm trying to create a natural permaculture food forest just buy seeds
a cherry from a cake I don't think ill have a seed or the seed would have been cooked. Best to grow from a fruit, you will get wild cherry trees that could display any number of characteristics. If you are wanting to create a food forest, I would start with a few small grafted trees to get you going, then experiment with some seed grown wild trees in the mean time. then at least you will have some results much much sooner, that you can enjoy while your seeds take time to show there results.
@@GreenthumbsGarden thank you very much for reply the seats are from store-bought cherries wondering if had to track seeds open or just put put the seeds directly into the ground and would the hard out of shell disintegrate and a cherry grow rest would make it a lot easier as there is lots of cherries in a packet of store-bought and I did not want to try crack all of the little seeds open if there is a chance of them germinate and just been took out and put directly into the ground on the unused piece of land the same way as I can plant an apple seed directly it would be great any information on this would be really appreciated as for grafting unfortunately I've been registered blind unable to do grafting and not got anyone who could help with this but yes I am going to try buy some little grafted trees in the future and also put them on the unused piece of land and hope they don't get destroyed thank you
Yes you can just put them directly in to the ground and let nature do its thing, don't worry about taking the shell off. You'll probably get a lower germination rate but it'll work out, just plant extra. Happy growing 😀🌱
@@GreenthumbsGarden thank you very much you have been very helpful as a registered blind gardener it is hard to find out certain information online but people like yourself is really appreciated I take it it would be the same with plum seeds and also with any other stone fruits like almonds I can just put put cherry plum almond right into the ground and there is a slight chance of them germinating without them having to be cracked open thank you again really grateful best of wishes from Scotland
I can't find / haven't found information on what part of a tree needs the chil hours, the branches or the roots or both. Do you know? If so betray God and country and tell me. I have some experiments in mind but I want to start of strong.
cherry, apple, apricot seeds can be harmful if eaten in large amounts. They contain a very small amount of cyanide but its rare anyone gets sick unless consuming large quantities.
Cherries do not grow true to seed, meaning that the fruit will not be the same as the one the seed came from. It will be a big genetic gamble, you may get a fine tree that grows well in your climate or you maybe get a poor tree. The possibilities are endless, it could exhibit any number of qualities from its parents and lineage. One way to get around this, and we will cover it in a future video when our cherry trees are ready, is to graft them. So in essence we will be using the seed-grown plant as a rootstock to support a grafted cherry that produces and grows well. Also bear in mind that you will need a minimum of 2 genetically distinct plants for cross-pollination. Hope that helps @John-100 🙃 Happy growing 🌱🍒🍒🍒
Great answers to the questions. I have been planting fruit seeds for years now and have quite the variety of trees still in the house. Citrus, Apples, Avocado, and cherries. I also plant about a hundred red oak trees each fall to sell in the spring. I am in Northern Vermont, USA, a zone 3b to 5 area and for the most part, except for the avocado and citrus, they are all happy outside. I did find the water issue you had interesting and I wonder if that may be a problem for me with some of my efforts to grow certain trees. I'll have to look into the ph of our well and consider the RO Water system. Good call from your neighbor. As a bit of hope for some who may be reading the comments, I had saved some cherry pits earlier this summer and had good intentions to open them and germinate right away. They were pushed into a corner and forgotten, (five months of hiding) and I just found them a bit few days ago. I did crack them open to see what I had to work with and was very pleased to see that quite a few still looked pretty good. I threw out the clearly, very, very dry ones, but gave a good overnight soak to the rest, (twenty seeds). In the morning there were only three floating and still sad looking. The rest plumped up nicely and look almost fresh. I started the germination process to see if they will be viable. Nothing to lose at this point except a few inches in the fridge while they stratify. I'll keep you posted on the success of this batch because it might be good info to have regarding older seeds. Thanks again for a great channel and good info. Cheers, William
thanks William. The water in our old place when measured with the TDS meter was around 350ppm... it was very alkaline and from what I was told salinated. We were not too far from the sea, where the well was located about 2km inland and more and more inhabitants taking from the local water table and not enough rain all contributed to the well not bee flushed out. This is what I was told any how. We moved to Cordoba, the municipal water measuring at about 150pmm and I have seen a difference already in the plants growth, general vitality. we will see how it goes.
How do you grow your 🥑? Do you bring them inside during winter or do they survive outside? I am trying in DE figured they might make it outside if I get them going strong inside first?
This was great information of which I was previously unaware. I had no clue it took 7-10 years to produce fruit but I'm thrilled it can be cut down by grafting. Now, I'll be searching for the grafting videos on your channel. Thanks for this info!
Thanks mate 😊 I haven't got any grafting videos at the moment but they will come in time. I think next season some of our cherrys will be ready for it and we will make some videos on it 😀
@@GreenthumbsGarden I love your videos. Put my cherry seeds in the fridge today. I WILL be watching out for the grafting video, as I would love to do everything possible to ensure tasty, sweet fruit.😃 Thanks for all your information!
@MultiCasking There is in fact a pretty good deal of info that's sound around if you want to learn more ASAP. If you have a fruit tree that already produces good fruit, they you have material to graft to a seed plant. A grafting knife is nice to have, but from what I gather is not entirely necessary. You're basically doing surgery. Cleanliness and then protection of the "Surgical Wound" is a good way to look at it. There was one person I saw on YT recently that grafted the top of a tomato plant to the root system of a potato plant (both are nightshade family, and that's why they said it's possible to do). They did it for kicks so in the end, they could make ketchup from the tomatoes grown on the same plant as the "chips" they made from the potatoes also grown from said same plant. It was a fun vid. Not entirely practical as it's not at all necessary - but fun as a demonstration none-the-less. i am forever a science-nerd!
well most people never get to the bottom of their failing plants. however you did and you gave us a lesson on what to look for. another great video mate always waitng for your next video
Thanks Curtis, it was sheer luck that I got to the bottom of it. My avocados failed in the end, the mangos still struggling, they were on the water for far far longer and I think the avocados just couldn't make a comeback, ill have to start over. the mangos, lets hope, they just not growing.
My first visit to this channel. I live in the US and I love cherries. I tried planting in pots with the pit and i was wondering why it never germinated. Now I know. Love thos video and the first one with intructions on how to grow. Same thing happened to my peach seed. I will be watching the video on how to grow peach tree from seedling.
I’ve had almost 100% success rate soaking the cherry seeds for 24hrs then cutting some fresh aloe and dipping the seeds in it before planting. Then put a bag over the cups I planted them in and spray once a day.
So what is the ratio of trees that come up with bad genetics for fruit? 90%? 70%? Or it it more like 5% or 10%? Grafting every single tree just doesn’t seem right. When did we start grafting? How did people have orchards before grafting? Growing trees for food is ancient.
It's nice to know that I'm not the only person that has plants die on me. It pays to start with more plants than you think you will need to allow for premature deaths along the way.
oh yeah ph 9 is WAY high! Do you ever use foliar feeds as a fast correction tool? Cinnamon is probably fine, but I think I will try using my innoculants.. really best to pair with biology at the earliest point possible in growing anything. I think I will try a side by side with cinnamon and innoculants and see what happens. cheers!
Feedback: love this. I just found your channel, maybe you cover it later, but some long term planning advice would be good. Like, here's 50 sq ft, I want 3 cherries and a mango here, I'll need to start 15 shoots to allow for loss, it will take 5 years and need to source donor grafting. At the moment I'm just interested in the idea, but I'm wondering if I'll end up with 20 trees in big pots that all make bad fruit.
I invite you to include your location in your headers, so we know if you're northern or southern hemisphere and what you're likely latitude is? I'm in Perth Australia 32° south (about Marrakesh or Tijuana in the northern hemisphere) locally we have what is more citrus than stone fruit country the city being built on a sandy alluvial plain, and our temperatures are such that it is unlikely that we would ever get a cherry crop locally as stone fruits typically don't set in these temperatures, but cherry trees can still be coppiced and make a pleasant garden screen... I'm confused because you speak in one video of planting in January (up to 43°C locally?) or frozen in the UK, but you also speak of planting mangoes?. great videos, very best wishes, John, Perth, Au' :)
Two trees? Tree "A" bought from garden center. Tree "B' from seed. Graft sion from Tree "A " to tree " B ". Is this two trees or genetcly one tree that will not pollinate each other?
Hi, thank you very much for the update and tips for growing cherries. I have several questions about growing these trees. Can I grow them in a mixture of pumice and potting mix like those used for cactus or rocky soil? Can I also turn cherry saplings into bonsai trees? If grown from seed, how many years should I wait before I could prune them safely? Also, how many months should I wait before I could put fertilizer to them, can I use a 10-10-10 fertilizer? Thank you very much in advance.
Hi Richard, I don't know what happened to my reply to this comment but I did answer you a while back. I'm just entering a meeting now but will be sure to write it again later. Sorry for the wait ,🙂
Yes a well rounded organic fertilizer will be best and I'm giving them a dosage once a month. In fact, today I better give them some ☺️ pumice stone should be ok to add a little for areation to your potting mix. Yes seed grown trees can be used for bonsai. I'm not great with Bonsai but I love them. I once went on a bonsai course for the day, they have a beautiful collection in Marbella and it was the guys that care for them that ran the course. They had grew a beautiful tree from seed and had it planted in the ground for several years so it grew a beautiful thick trunk, then they dug it out, timed the plant right down and planted it in to a large container for another year then on the day of the course they trimmed the roots further and branches and Bonsai'd it, it looked great. I however lack the skill or experience to do this and would be scared to kill the plant. I would let them grow freely for the first year and give it a trim back if you feel it's getting too big after. Incase of Bonsai then the whole pruning will be different depending on the shape you want.
This guy takes better care of his plants than most people do of their bodies
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I love the fact that you can create a family tree where you graft different varieties on the one tree helping cross pollination:)
that is very cool I agree :-) with good pruning also, you can plant two trees together with about a foot apart and prune one to grow to the right and the other to the left, in effect acting as one tree. this is a great concept also and works great for verity's that need cross pollinating and requires no grafting skills :-)
I followed your instructions on the cherrie back in August 2022. I put 7 seeds in a towel ,put cinnamon, sprayed with water wrap them up put in frigidaire. Checked in January 2023 they all had roots hooray. They are now about 4"tall when do I transplant them. I have 7 more in frigidaire with tint roots. Thanks lots of fun
Brilliant Adeline!! You can let them grow a little in there starter pots and transplant to bigger pots or into the garden at the start of spring.
Vise grip pliers adjusted just tight enough to not crush the seed inside will crack the pits easier than the diagonal cutters. It can be done with just eaten pits or dried pits.
Cherries . You need two to three plants of different cherries trees to cross pollinate if you only have one type they may not have fruit.
Sour cherry are self polluting
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I have sweet cherries .only one tree and they self pollinate every year . I live in Northern Ireland and weathers not great but they still grow. My main problem is keeping birds away 😮😮
* pollinating
I agree with this statement!
Depends on the type. Some cherry trees have male and female. Others are just fine solo.
Right on Glad this update popped up in my feed.!!.
Great videos Alex.!. Thank you.
Awesome, thank you Gal!!
Thanks for the update and if you give me a thumbs up again this will be the fourth or fifth time you have done that and I really appreciate it . Thanks 😊. Good to know your cherry plants are doing well.
Deal! I appreciate your feed back and value Don to the community we're growing. Thanks 😊
Your videos are wonderful!
I live in The Netherlands and I already have grown two cherry trees and now I want to plant them on the ground.
So your videos are really useful for me!
Thank you very much for your knowledge and advice!
thanks Carina! really happy that you enjoy the videos 😁
I did my pits wrong. They went bad. But I put three batches in the fridge, so I still have fingers crossed..
i bought 2 big used pickle containers 50 gal all HDPE rated safe for drinking the tops covered with fabric keep mosquitos away used this for my garden basically like a rain barrel but cheaper.
I live in Germany, just paid 7 euro for a 1kg of cherries. Got my mind working then come across your videos. So as it stand now my seeds are soaking in water. Thanks for the help, I’ll keep you updated. 🎉
I'm about to cut into my cherry pits how are you're cherries doing?
I just got my pits cracked and seeds in water. Hows yours doing?
Update?
Pl first remove outer cell by
soft hammering then dip all seeds in hydrogen per oxide.
H2O.for 15-20 mts. Next keep
All seeds in paper towel,spray
Water. Next fold paper.Again
Spray. Keep all seeds in lock
Plastic small bag for 15days.
Will see all seeds r germinated. Then put in cocopit+ composit soil.Keep
Them in shadow.see result.
Dankase.
Great energy in your video series on cherries. Thank you very much.
May God guide you to the truth, submitted to Him and glorifying Him with each good deed you do.
In response to your invitation to share thoughts on why some seeds come as empty pods, hopeless, and others superior and beneficial:
The differences are God’s design and a demonstration that helps us to know how our societies should work.
While plants cannot think and so cannot conscientiously give to others, people can.
In between are animals: wild animals develop as God wills, and domesticated animals develop under human custody but still within the limits that God specifies.
I'm trying the same method you just show and l am still waiting for the result. Thanks so much for being so I helpful.
You are so welcome!
How are the saplings doing now? I’ve got a cherry tree I started from seed around 2.5 yrs ago now… it’s about 70cm tall now! I’m wondering if I should prune it or not because it’s very tall but there’s only 2 side shoots. It would be great to see an update for yours 😀.
Hey Tom, I'm going to do my best to shoot an update today. They doing well!
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I'm sure glad I found you I'm listening to you now I lived Baird Texas how many trees am I supposed to plant so they can pollinate each other I guess I got about 25 seeds now I'm going to play in the mall and I'm going to plant them in a great big brown pot I live in West Texas and it gets cold here and sometimes it snows thank you so much for telling us it really helps thank you
I always heard the talk that fruits don't grow true to seeds. On the Island that I'm from, all the fruits that we grow are true to seeds. You eat a fruit, you drop the seed, the plant grows up, it bares fruits similar to the fruit that the seed came from. All except grafted fruits like eastindian and Julie mangoes.
yeah, not all fruits grow similarly to the one eaten, for instance, Cherries do not grow true to seed, meaning that the fruit will not be the same as the one the seed came from. It will be a big genetic gamble, you may get a fine tree that grows well in your climate or you maybe get a poor tree. The possibilities are endless, it could exhibit any number of qualities from its parents and lineage. One way to get around this, and we will cover it in a future video when our cherry trees are ready, is to graft them. So in essence we will be using the seed-grown plant as a rootstock to support a grafted cherry that produces and grows well. Also bear in mind that you will need a minimum of 2 genetically distinct plants for cross-pollination. Hope that helps @blackbway 🙃 Happy growing 🌱🍒🍒🍒
fortitude, resilience
I like your content and wish other content creators would fallow. Really like the Q n A.
thanks Tony :-) very much appreciated!
Very nice video from cherry seed prep, seed germination in the fridge to planting carefully. Thank you for the great Q & A at the end. Superb video😊👍
Thanks @valeriejensen983 😀 Happy growing!! 🌱
My cherry tree seedlings bloomed at 5 years. Both sweet and sour. This is their fifth year so I have not tasted them yet, as it is spring. Some plum seedlings can bloom after three years. For seedlings, there really is no set time because of the genetics and location where they are planted (less/more sun, poor/good soil, heavy/sandy soil.)
My well water had been going towards alkaline as well but not as seriously as yours. I too water potted plants with water adjusted for pH. I have rain barrels as well.
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Thanks DK! Great to have you joining our community!! 😀
I had a similar problem when I moved into my house. I didn't realize the water softener just adds salt to the water so every time I watered my plants I was sending them to an early grave. I'm glad I figured it out before I killed my great grandpa's plants from the 1950s.
Cinnamon is great as a natural insecticide and cayanne pepper never hurts
I really need to find and buy cherries in my country and starts it from seed **It's not easy to find fresh cherry fruits in Indonesia
Will you get enough of a winter in Indonesia to get them to fruit? I imagine it is very warm all year around?
I guess i will need a cold room and plant all my stone fruits in large pots.
In the winter time i will just roll them into the cold room and take them out on the spring. That might work on the tropics.
it might do if you keep your trees small enough and have a cold room large enough. Maybe buy a grafted cherry tree to test it out sooner and see if it fruits :-)
Hello, your tutorial is very good. I made the cherry core with the method you described. I have a question. I transferred the core to the pot with the roots..Please tell me what I should do to maintain it.
Thanks for the info brother!
You're welcome, glad you enjoy the content @icculus7989 😀 Happy growing!! 🌱
(This really is a superb video) :)
THANK YOU FOR SHARING GOOD INFORMATION!!!😊🫶🏾🌳🙋🏾♀️🔥🙏🏾👑✝️📖🔥
Glad it was helpful! :-)
Im hoping mazzard cherry seeds sprout I just orderd to have great rootstock to graft with. I will try techniques that you have shown. Im also trying fresh cherry seeds right now that are in the refrigerator. Do regular seeds work decent for rootstock? I see most varieties in nursery on Mazzard.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! 😀
Ahhh, I was getting so excited until you said that they might not become a nice cherry tree. If my seed grows I might just plant it somewhere nearby
don't get disappointed too soon Wendy! in the future I'll show you how you can graft the tree and guarantee a cherry you like.
Just a question to Greenthumbs... in your first post where you crack open the cherry nuts and one is empty of seed... you say you'll take it back to Mercadona... you in Spain where the climate is warmer than the climate in UK where your north-east UK accent suggests you're from?
I live in Siberia. Zones 3. Cherries grow here too.
I think some variety's will grow there yes, you might be best researching which kinds and buy accordingly.
We have a huge very mature apricot tree (around 20ft tall) which has been a big disappointment. Since we only moved in two years ago we only have the last two years to go by. Last year we got a total of 18 fruit. Very nice but that's a pathetic crop from such a huge tree. This year, so far we can only see 8 fruit (not yet ripe). I have my suspicion that the problem is that there are no other apricot trees (that I know of) in the area.
Unfortunately we really don't have anywhere to put another tree so my plan is to grow some more using store bought apricots. Then grafting these onto our large tree. Although these grafts may not produce very good fruit, they may provide the vital genetic variety to pollenate the rest of the tree. What do you reckon?
according to experts growing trees from seeds, it has a rate of 30 percent chance that they will grow into healthy trees. This is why sellers sell grafted trees.
Cherries do not grow true to seed, meaning that the fruit will not be the same as the one the seed came from. It will be a big genetic gamble, you may get a fine tree that grows well in your climate or you maybe get a poor tree. The possibilities are endless, it could exhibit any number of qualities from its parents and lineage. One way to get around this, and we will cover it in a future video when our cherry trees are ready, is to graft them. So in essence we will be using the seed-grown plant as a rootstock to support a grafted cherry that produces and grows well. Also bear in mind that you will need a minimum of 2 genetically distinct plants for cross-pollination. Hope that helps Space Chimp 🙃 Happy growing 🌱
Have you tried lemon root stock with a graft from the tree the fruit came from?
How important is it to seal cuts in the bark?, especially on cherry trees.
No I have not tried this, I'll will have e to research it. I'm growing some lemon seedling now that I plan to graft one day... but they got quite a bit of growing to do first. I dont bother sealing any cuts if its just pruning. if your grafting however, then you just need to wrap it tight with some grafting tape, no sealing product needed.
@@GreenthumbsGarden after I pruned my neighbor's tree half died and he blamed me.. So did I
Imagine it's different in Illinois than in Britain.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
You're welcome!
Heh, so that’s what happened to the mangoes I started last year!
I have a question, sucker’s from a grafted Cherry tree will be clone’s of the rootstock. Is that correct?
that's right, as the sucker will be likely growing below the grafted area, so will be the rootstock part of the plant.
Hi! Thank you for your videos!!! Can you tell me what zone you are growing in?
before I was in about 10a, now I'm in 9b more or less, temps fluctuate here a lot.
I live in central alaska, so i may have a bit too much cold for the trees to survive.
probably!
Is it possible to grow an "Evans Bali Cherry Tree" from seeds, with the tree that sprouts being a true Evans Bali Cherry Tree? I have seen Evans Bali Cherry Tree seeds available online, but am wondering if I would actually end up with a true Evans Bali.
I'm not sure Kim from what I read sour cherries have a reputation for growing true.
So i can grow the tree now but it wont produce fruit until it's cold outside?
Will these cherry trees grow the same size cherries as original cherry size it was ... Hope this make sense
Do the pit seeds need stratification once removed from the hard pit.
Yep, follow this video if you've missed it 😉 ua-cam.com/video/A8K4E3bt3XU/v-deo.html
Can saplings that started before winter be left outside or should they be brought inside?
where is the update did the cherry trees survive winter ? or yet to fully bud again
They did!! They looking very cool, little buds just breaking out. You think spring update is in order?
@@GreenthumbsGarden im definitely interested in how they are doing I've got a couple of small ones myself I started from seed im curious on if they survived winter
@@danielrenihan8115 then as soon as I get back from our trip, I will make it 🙂
Hey, thank you for the education as to how to germinate cherry seeds. However, am in Ghana of West Africa and i want to try them here. Any counsel?❤
Hi Feyi, I don't think in Ghana the winter is cold enough :-/ Cherries generally need a cold winter "chill hours" to trigger flowering and fruit production. You will find online some "cherry varieties" like Surinam cherry, Brazilian cherry, and Barbados cherry that is more suited to warmer climates, but they are only "cherries" in name and do not share any similarities with the prunus family. Hope that helps Feyi, Happy Growing 🌱😊
@@GreenthumbsGarden Thank you very much for the education. However, can the other varieties suitable for the tropics be grafted unto the prunus family? There are some parts in Ghana that are very cold, so I will still try them. I have started the germination process?
I cant think of cherry variety's suited to the tropics. Are you in Ghana? maybe the winters are cold enough I'm not sure,. This article is worth reading www.goodfruit.com/breeding-cherries-for-hot-climates/
I followed your technique with rainier cherry pits will i get fruit?
well it will be a gamble, you wont get the same rainier cherry, it will contain some genetics but it will be random of what you get, it will be a wild Cherrie tree that I hope will fruit for you. To get the same Rainier they are multi grafted to achieve the final tree. Now once your tree is big enough and if you can locate a tree that you know produces well, you can take a bud or branch from that and graft it in the future. this is what we'l be doing hopefully down the line.
@@GreenthumbsGarden 👌 thanks
Can cherries be grown in the tropics?
How long the Cherry tree from Seed Will start producing fruit?
ua-cam.com/video/O-yUBzcoeZM/v-deo.html will answer some of the common questions asked. Up to 7 years is the short answer 😃
Is it possible to provide a false cold by using an AC unit in a room
i dont see why not as long as you can get the room cold enough and maintain it for about 1month.. sounds very costly though.
Can you have pie cherry tree and bing cherry tree? I have both seeds cracked.
I live in Philadelphia, PA and most of the soil in my area is clay. Is that OK to grow either cherries or blueberries ?
clay soil is difficult, you could dig a big trench when you plant to grow the cherry and amend the soil to make it more drainable just make sure the land in not in a bowl as water will pool in and not drain away
Hi . I've just put my cherry seeds in fridge March 25 2022. I'm in East Tennessee USA. After a month in fridge and they have roots,
Should I keep them inside near sunny window til Fall and cooler weather
Awesome Janet!!! Yeah give them a nice protected spot where they can get some nice bright light. Careful not too close to the window though as it could burn it.
Those holes in your leaves look like slug damage...slugs like to hide/ live under the pots then come out at night to feed on your leaves...They come out especially after a rain...pick them up with toilet paper and flush them away. Potted plants give them a home underneath and a banquet table above....Get them !!
Thanks @velvethammer1801 I'll defiantly look next time I have this issue. There were a lot of tiny slugs in our old place 😀 Happy growing!! 🌱
I enjoyed your videos. What country and area are you growing your plants?
Hey Mae, thanks 🙃 we are based in South Spain in Andalucía.
I planted about a hundred and 50 seeds
nice :-) enjoy the journey!
Do cherry trees need acidic soil or specific kind
I would guess silica sand additive might have killed some plants since it absorbs water vapor, thus depriving plants of moisture while appearing watered.
Hmm thanks Natalya, that info is new to me and I quickly looked it up. I never knew silica actually could absorb water due to the micro pores in it. I've always used it mainly as an ingredient for my carnivorous plant mixes as it is an inert material, helps aerate the media and give good drainage.
Hi! Nice video. Any updates?
I have a cherry tree seedling that I grew from the seed of a cherry from the supermarket around three years ago. Please could you look at the video on my channel of the cherry tree and tell me what I should do next? (I Hope it will bear fruit in some years)
Thank you!
Hi Lucy, great job with the cherry tree! Ill have an update soon on mine, there is several out already if you check the playlist :-) your tree has come on great, what do you plan to do with it, keep it in a pot or will you plant it in the ground? I think it will be ready for its first hard prune, but its a little late in the year for that now. Id leave it as it is for this year, and decide if you will keep it in a pot or put it in the ground, then get ready to give it its first hard prune at the end of winter, a few weeks before spring. I need to make some vids on this. I also highly recommend this book, Grow a Little Fruit Tree amzn.to/3H2LFxZ youl love it.
@@GreenthumbsGarden thanks I’ll definitely check out the vids and the book. I’m think I’m going to keep it in a pot as garden space is limited…in the meantime should I fertilize it with anything in particular?
just a general feed every fortnight or month following the directions on the bottle will keep it healthy :-)
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my ro system produces high ph, is this killing my seedlings? my softened water has the the other problem, which demon should i use?
That's strange normally RO water that is been correctly filtered should be slightly acidic, around 6-6.5 pH. Maybe your filters need a change? It should be fine for the cherry's. My problem is that our well water is super high in salts and is causing me many issues in general with plants that can't tolerate the high amount. Your tap water probably will be adequate.
@@GreenthumbsGarden yep, needed to change the filters. learning all sorts of new stuff today. thanks for the answers.
How many years fefore you can expect fruit????
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Cannot find anything on intimate and are very curious can you put a cherry seeds directly into the ground say for instance you eat a cherry take out the little stone and put it directly into the ground on an unused piece of land what is the likelihood of it germinating and turning into a tree thank you anyone can help with this as I'm trying to create a natural permaculture food forest just buy seeds
a cherry from a cake I don't think ill have a seed or the seed would have been cooked. Best to grow from a fruit, you will get wild cherry trees that could display any number of characteristics. If you are wanting to create a food forest, I would start with a few small grafted trees to get you going, then experiment with some seed grown wild trees in the mean time. then at least you will have some results much much sooner, that you can enjoy while your seeds take time to show there results.
@@GreenthumbsGarden thank you very much for reply the seats are from store-bought cherries wondering if had to track seeds open or just put put the seeds directly into the ground and would the hard out of shell disintegrate and a cherry grow rest would make it a lot easier as there is lots of cherries in a packet of store-bought and I did not want to try crack all of the little seeds open if there is a chance of them germinate and just been took out and put directly into the ground on the unused piece of land the same way as I can plant an apple seed directly it would be great any information on this would be really appreciated as for grafting unfortunately I've been registered blind unable to do grafting and not got anyone who could help with this but yes I am going to try buy some little grafted trees in the future and also put them on the unused piece of land and hope they don't get destroyed thank you
Yes you can just put them directly in to the ground and let nature do its thing, don't worry about taking the shell off. You'll probably get a lower germination rate but it'll work out, just plant extra. Happy growing 😀🌱
@@GreenthumbsGarden thank you very much you have been very helpful as a registered blind gardener it is hard to find out certain information online but people like yourself is really appreciated I take it it would be the same with plum seeds and also with any other stone fruits like almonds I can just put put cherry plum almond right into the ground and there is a slight chance of them germinating without them having to be cracked open thank you again really grateful best of wishes from Scotland
The seeds are usually genetically different from the parent plant, so the fruit may not be the same.
What zone are you in?
you mentioned "nim oil" for battling the insects what is that ?
Neem oil 🙂
a piece of string is twice the distance from the middle to one end LOL
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Other plants that keep them away should be close to them.
I live in Canada so idk if this is going to work 😅
😅 I've heard it gets a wee bit nippy over there 😂
@@GreenthumbsGarden yeah just a bit 😅
I can't find / haven't found information on what part of a tree needs the chil hours, the branches or the roots or both. Do you know? If so betray God and country and tell me. I have some experiments in mind but I want to start of strong.
I was told the seeds were poisonous
cherry, apple, apricot seeds can be harmful if eaten in large amounts. They contain a very small amount of cyanide but its rare anyone gets sick unless consuming large quantities.
13:20 that's the same method as checking if the misses is ready
The question is are they good? Im sure they won't be true to type. 1 out of 10,000 apple seeds produce an apple tree worth keeping
Cherries do not grow true to seed, meaning that the fruit will not be the same as the one the seed came from. It will be a big genetic gamble, you may get a fine tree that grows well in your climate or you maybe get a poor tree. The possibilities are endless, it could exhibit any number of qualities from its parents and lineage. One way to get around this, and we will cover it in a future video when our cherry trees are ready, is to graft them. So in essence we will be using the seed-grown plant as a rootstock to support a grafted cherry that produces and grows well. Also bear in mind that you will need a minimum of 2 genetically distinct plants for cross-pollination. Hope that helps @John-100 🙃 Happy growing 🌱🍒🍒🍒
Coffee grounds will bring down the ph.
I think unused coffee ground slowly can reduce ph but you would need allot. used coffee grounds i read are nutural.
No kidding? Frequently asked questions have actually been asked, frequently? ???
Sure have... And continue to be asked 😅
I don't want to be this guy but... planting cherry seeds is pretty much pointless 90% of the seedlings will produce fruit that is small and bitter
Great answers to the questions. I have been planting fruit seeds for years now and have quite the variety of trees still in the house. Citrus, Apples, Avocado, and cherries. I also plant about a hundred red oak trees each fall to sell in the spring.
I am in Northern Vermont, USA, a zone 3b to 5 area and for the most part, except for the avocado and citrus, they are all happy outside.
I did find the water issue you had interesting and I wonder if that may be a problem for me with some of my efforts to grow certain trees. I'll have to look into the ph of our well and consider the RO Water system. Good call from your neighbor.
As a bit of hope for some who may be reading the comments, I had saved some cherry pits earlier this summer and had good intentions to open them and germinate right away. They were pushed into a corner and forgotten, (five months of hiding) and I just found them a bit few days ago. I did crack them open to see what I had to work with and was very pleased to see that quite a few still looked pretty good. I threw out the clearly, very, very dry ones, but gave a good overnight soak to the rest, (twenty seeds). In the morning there were only three floating and still sad looking. The rest plumped up nicely and look almost fresh. I started the germination process to see if they will be viable. Nothing to lose at this point except a few inches in the fridge while they stratify. I'll keep you posted on the success of this batch because it might be good info to have regarding older seeds.
Thanks again for a great channel and good info.
Cheers,
William
thanks William. The water in our old place when measured with the TDS meter was around 350ppm... it was very alkaline and from what I was told salinated. We were not too far from the sea, where the well was located about 2km inland and more and more inhabitants taking from the local water table and not enough rain all contributed to the well not bee flushed out. This is what I was told any how. We moved to Cordoba, the municipal water measuring at about 150pmm and I have seen a difference already in the plants growth, general vitality. we will see how it goes.
How do you grow your 🥑? Do you bring them inside during winter or do they survive outside? I am trying in DE figured they might make it outside if I get them going strong inside first?
Oh they are in the house still sry lol.
This was great information of which I was previously unaware. I had no clue it took 7-10 years to produce fruit but I'm thrilled it can be cut down by grafting. Now, I'll be searching for the grafting videos on your channel. Thanks for this info!
Thanks mate 😊 I haven't got any grafting videos at the moment but they will come in time. I think next season some of our cherrys will be ready for it and we will make some videos on it 😀
@@GreenthumbsGarden I love your videos. Put my cherry seeds in the fridge today. I WILL be watching out for the grafting video, as I would love to do everything possible to ensure tasty, sweet fruit.😃
Thanks for all your information!
@MultiCasking There is in fact a pretty good deal of info that's sound around if you want to learn more ASAP. If you have a fruit tree that already produces good fruit, they you have material to graft to a seed plant. A grafting knife is nice to have, but from what I gather is not entirely necessary.
You're basically doing surgery. Cleanliness and then protection of the "Surgical Wound" is a good way to look at it.
There was one person I saw on YT recently that grafted the top of a tomato plant to the root system of a potato plant (both are nightshade family, and that's why they said it's possible to do).
They did it for kicks so in the end, they could make ketchup from the tomatoes grown on the same plant as the "chips" they made from the potatoes also grown from said same plant. It was a fun vid. Not entirely practical as it's not at all necessary - but fun as a demonstration none-the-less.
i am forever a science-nerd!
well most people never get to the bottom of their failing plants. however you did and you gave us a lesson on what to look for. another great video mate always waitng for your next video
Thanks Curtis, it was sheer luck that I got to the bottom of it. My avocados failed in the end, the mangos still struggling, they were on the water for far far longer and I think the avocados just couldn't make a comeback, ill have to start over. the mangos, lets hope, they just not growing.
Thats what we call a 'natural selection' event xD the ones left are the hardy ones!
My first visit to this channel. I live in the US and I love cherries. I tried planting in pots with the pit and i was wondering why it never germinated. Now I know. Love thos video and the first one with intructions on how to grow. Same thing happened to my peach seed. I will be watching the video on how to grow peach tree from seedling.
You're welcome, glad you enjoy the content A F 😀 Happy growing!! 🌱
The chemtrails are affecting all of our plants! Even mature evergreens here in USA's, Pacific NW are mysteriously dying.
How long it takes to have fruit from seeds? Also two plants are required to have fruit?
ua-cam.com/video/O-yUBzcoeZM/v-deo.html is your answer 😄
Thank God for that mysterious call 🤣 I love your content. Thanks for creating it ❤️
Glad you enjoy it! 😄
I think it might be possible, if so inclined, to introduce sound waves at different frequencies in order to produce a desired result.
I’ve had almost 100% success rate soaking the cherry seeds for 24hrs then cutting some fresh aloe and dipping the seeds in it before planting. Then put a bag over the cups I planted them in and spray once a day.
Love the editing in this one!
Yay, thank you! took me long enough... lol
So what is the ratio of trees that come up with bad genetics for fruit? 90%? 70%? Or it it more like 5% or 10%? Grafting every single tree just doesn’t seem right. When did we start grafting? How did people have orchards before grafting? Growing trees for food is ancient.
It's nice to know that I'm not the only person that has plants die on me. It pays to start with more plants than you think you will need to allow for premature deaths along the way.
Very true, it happens to all
oh yeah ph 9 is WAY high! Do you ever use foliar feeds as a fast correction tool? Cinnamon is probably fine, but I think I will try using my innoculants.. really best to pair with biology at the earliest point possible in growing anything. I think I will try a side by side with cinnamon and innoculants and see what happens. cheers!
What inoculants are you speaking about?
Feedback: love this. I just found your channel, maybe you cover it later, but some long term planning advice would be good. Like, here's 50 sq ft, I want 3 cherries and a mango here, I'll need to start 15 shoots to allow for loss, it will take 5 years and need to source donor grafting.
At the moment I'm just interested in the idea, but I'm wondering if I'll end up with 20 trees in big pots that all make bad fruit.
I invite you to include your location in your headers, so we know if you're northern or southern hemisphere and what you're likely latitude is? I'm in Perth Australia 32° south (about Marrakesh or Tijuana in the northern hemisphere) locally we have what is more citrus than stone fruit country the city being built on a sandy alluvial plain, and our temperatures are such that it is unlikely that we would ever get a cherry crop locally as stone fruits typically don't set in these temperatures, but cherry trees can still be coppiced and make a pleasant garden screen... I'm confused because you speak in one video of planting in January (up to 43°C locally?) or frozen in the UK, but you also speak of planting mangoes?. great videos, very best wishes, John, Perth, Au' :)
well, due to the way really no one really has "seasons" anymore, I might as well not even try to grow them in southern California. Bummer
Two trees? Tree "A" bought from garden center. Tree "B' from seed. Graft sion from Tree "A " to tree " B ". Is this two trees or genetcly one tree that will not pollinate each other?
Hi, thank you very much for the update and tips for growing cherries. I have several questions about growing these trees. Can I grow them in a mixture of pumice and potting mix like those used for cactus or rocky soil? Can I also turn cherry saplings into bonsai trees? If grown from seed, how many years should I wait before I could prune them safely? Also, how many months should I wait before I could put fertilizer to them, can I use a 10-10-10 fertilizer? Thank you very much in advance.
Hi Richard, I don't know what happened to my reply to this comment but I did answer you a while back. I'm just entering a meeting now but will be sure to write it again later. Sorry for the wait ,🙂
Yes a well rounded organic fertilizer will be best and I'm giving them a dosage once a month. In fact, today I better give them some ☺️ pumice stone should be ok to add a little for areation to your potting mix. Yes seed grown trees can be used for bonsai. I'm not great with Bonsai but I love them. I once went on a bonsai course for the day, they have a beautiful collection in Marbella and it was the guys that care for them that ran the course. They had grew a beautiful tree from seed and had it planted in the ground for several years so it grew a beautiful thick trunk, then they dug it out, timed the plant right down and planted it in to a large container for another year then on the day of the course they trimmed the roots further and branches and Bonsai'd it, it looked great. I however lack the skill or experience to do this and would be scared to kill the plant. I would let them grow freely for the first year and give it a trim back if you feel it's getting too big after. Incase of Bonsai then the whole pruning will be different depending on the shape you want.
Thank you for your update, love your podcast
I did all you said my pits did not germmate. I then put the seeds in a pot of dirt.. now I have New Babies, what next!?