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Where is the Brooklyn Queens Border?
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2024
- In this video, we will be exploring the Brooklyn Queens border.
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You know you cross into Queens after Highland when names become numbers. That’s one of the rare examples of it being clear.
Beat me to it! lol, but yeah that’s the easiest indication which I believe was done deliberately.
You Are Leaving Brooklyn
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Exactly! Cypress Hills, next stop 75th St-Elderts Lane 😂
Also the numbers in the addresses become hyphenated.
Grew up in East New York. Only way I would know I had ventured into Queens.
@@joncoda365 in the last few decades, USPS has unions unfond of Queens's hyphenated addresses and I used to have to beat up on merchants' software to accept my address the way I wanted to enter it. I didn't always succeed.
It's too bad. It's wonderfully quirky animalistic and it did let you know where you were. If you were driving east in East New York [Brooklyn] on Atlantic Avenue looking for 3802, you'd have a hint as to what was going on when the addresses jumped from something like 3520 to 7410 if you saw a hyphen in the latter address.. 3802 is on a different Brooklyn Atlantic Avenue in the gated community of Sea Gate.
I just realized grand av in queens turns into grand st in brooklyn
It used to be that street name signs in Queens were blue on white in Queens, but white on black in Brooklyn. This did help drivers know which borough they were in. BTW, the Bronx was white on blue and both Manhattan and Staten Island were black on yellow (it was pretty obvious whether you were in Manhattan or Staten Island).
There is one place where the Bronx-Manhattan border is funky. That is the "Marble Hill" section. It is on the "Bronx side" of the Broadway Bridge, but is part of Manhattan.
I’ve passed The Hole numerous times while going to Long Beach or my cousin’s house in Howard Beach and always wondered why it’s at a lower elevation than the surrounding area and why the streets are always flooded. But now I know. Also you should do a video about the most underdeveloped neighborhoods and the city’s plan to redevelop them. One well known example being Willets Point in Queens, aka: The Iron Triangle. It’s that neighborhood that’s filled with Auto Shops and Junkyards located right across Seaver Way from Citi Field, which like The Hole has barely paved streets, some without sidewalks and where flooding is common due to limited or a lack of sewer connections.
I grew up in Ridgewood, in the '60s and '70s. At that time Ridgewood spilled into Brooklyn, and so even though I lived in Brooklyn (just west of Irving Av) I went to school in Queens. As you walked from Kings to Queens you'd see "Cooper St" become "Cooper Ave". Of course, back then each of the boroughs had distinctly-colored street signs. Just as Manhattan signs were the signature gold, B'kly sign were black with white lettering, Queens' were white with blue lettering.
Ironically, several years and two (Brooklyn) homes later, I worked one college summer in the CityLine Area of Brookly/Queens, on Liberty Ave, near Conduit Blvd ...
That's how I always knew, by the street sign colors.
They should have kept the street color signs different
Despite living in New York for 29 years, I was never in that part of the city. Had someone asked me where the border between Brooklyn and Queens is, I'd have had no idea.
Brooklyn is all the places you get to on a Down train that turns left, Queens is all the places you get to on an Up train that turns right.
Fun fact: Brooklyn used to be a city.
yup, it used to be the fourth biggest city in America pre 1898 when all the boroughs merged to form the modern NYC city limits.
@@officialgreendalehumanbeing IT USED TO BE FOURTH?!
@@officialgreendalehumanbeing gawd daym
@@WestchesterCountyPatriot if Brooklyn was its own city in 2024, it would be either third or fourth with damn near as many people as Chicago.
@@officialgreendalehumanbeing it would be fourth place
9:01 I never knew New York City let alone New York State had an area that's below sea level that's not underwater. Interesting. I know some places in California and Louisiana (New Orleans) had ground areas below sea level.
This is cool. I’m in Rego park now and overlook Flushing Meadow Park. A few years back when I was in Forest Hills there was quite a bit of flooding by the drains after a rainfall. There’s an old map in my former building that calls Forest Hills as Long Island. The area wasn’t very developed when the building went up. Forest Hills Gardens wasn’t developed yet. It was still ‘country’. I find it all amazing how recent this all is.
Extremely interesting. I never heard of the 'Hole' before; what an eye opener.
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East Williamsburg isn't a real thing. It's Bushwick.
That part
Whatever sells houses these realtors dont care
Newtown Creek is actually pronounced as Newton. I lived a few blocks from there.
There is a a long water border in Jamaica Bay that separates Brooklyn from the Rockaway peninsula which is part of Queens.
That hole is where the famous Lindenwood Diner is. I grew up going there.
Ughh, the shrimp Caesar salad, it’s been years but I can still taste it
The southern part used to be based on spring creek, but it's now been almost completely paved over so we can't tell. But spring creek used to run from the conduit through the hole down to the bay
As someone who currently lives on the Brooklyn Queens Border - I think that first division line shown at (0:40) is actually very accurate; when I first moved to this area and was walking down the vertical streets I immediately noticed the architecture change from duplex 2-family units, terraced townhomes & semi-detatched townhomes into low-rise tenements and apartment buildings when crossing over Cypress Ave.
Above Cypress, there are fewer people, more cars, more families. Below Cypress there are more (and younger) people around, more businesses (especially nightlife), and most of all, much more noise! You really notice the difference in vibe the moment you cross over.
Use The (A) And (J) Train Annoucements To Know
Or the G
@@adrianwitzburg4140nah (G) goes underwater so you know
And with the borderline? All those lines start announcing number streets.
@@calvinkendrick851 Don't forget the M.
Even though the L crosses into Queens the announcement will just say "Rockaway Parkway bound L train" or "Manhattan bound L train" if going to 14st/8 ave.
Newtown Creek, the boundary you can smell \m/
Also a bunch of movie studio lots near the Newtown Creek. Always have to go to Silvercup and Steiner (where I did scenes for Fallout).
The discrepancy between Google maps and Census border may reflect state vs Federal definitions? Each borough is actually a county under state.
Ironically, Arbitration Rock is now entirely in Queens.
Slight correction: at 6:10 you mention Bay Ridge-95th St. not being in Bay Ridge. While maps may still define the borders of Bay Ridge in the way depicted, anybody who lives in Bay Ridge will tell you that the entire region bounded by the Belt and the expressway is considered Bay Ridge. Historically, Fort Hamilton was it's own neighborhood, but that distinction has all but faded. "Fort Hamilton" now only refers to the literal military base, at least colloquially.
I grew up right next to ‘The Hole’. I don’t know if this is accurate, but I had been told that the jewel streets were once part of Queens but were eventually given to Brooklyn, which could be why the border isn’t a straight line across Conduit Ave./Blvd. from one end of 75th street to the other end. Ruby St. b/w the Conduit & Blake Ave. also has 75th St. signage and the houses have hyphenated house numbers like the homes in Queens.
Even as a child growing up in Brooklyn, I knew this particular "border" was a clusterf***. Now do the Queens/Long Island demarcation; I dare ya! 😛
It may be choked with traffic, but a walk over the Kosciuszko Bridge offers one of the best views in NYC.
This is why if you go westbound past US/MS 202 in Southern Queens, you've crossed the Queens/Brooklyn border, also nicknamed the City Line, into Brooklyn.
Loved this topic! Would you consider doing a video on abandoned LIRR stations? There are so many of them that fell out of use throughout the years, I feel like it would be a great video!
Can u make a video on how you would have separated the two boroughs?
Ooh. Yeah....that sounds interesting!! 🌟
I'm fascinated by the 'borders' of cities and the urban landscape. The border of Queens and Nassau County would be a great one to examine.
I lived in Queens Village which was in the Nassau County border. Just following up to Belmont park crossed the line. When I was a kid we’d go out to Long Island by bicycle watch football practice .
@@cheshirecat7132 I've been surprised at how much of Queens appears suburban in terms of single family homes/strip malls. Staten Island, too.
That's because Nassau County was part of the Original Queens County... And you have to remember, the original borders were established when the area was mostly Farmland and other rural areas like swamps and forests and followed property lines of existing estates.
People from Bushwick BK & Rigdewood QNS will tell you the border zig zags for short..if you want the full definition of the border route then we will get extremely detailed of it and start off from flushing all the way to the dark side telling you how it zig zags along cypress Ave st Nick and wycoff till you hit the cemeteries 🤣 the (L) train somewhat follows the border.
Hell yeah they should have just kept it straight thru Cypress imo
i vivdly remember that border near East New York and Ozone Park/Howard Beach bc of my Grandma Martha that is boosting-up nice nostalgia. 💜👌
I would like to know your thoughts about whether 59 St-Columbus Circle on the IRT Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line should be converted to an express station and 72 St should be degraded to a local station or keep it as an express station. Is it possible to build 2 more tracks out of the local platforms (Like Dekalb Av layout, but instead southbound local & express, 2 storage tracks and northbound express & local), or the express track will be built far lower than the IND Eighth Avenue line (Like lexington Av/59th St)
very interesting video as usual! Would love to see one on the crazy StL border from ya. :]
So about living in a Queens zip code (or was that a Brooklyn one)…zip codes don’t always reflect where you actually live, they tell what post office serves you.
Here in Central New York (for those of you who think anything north of Yonkers is upstate), parts of the Town of DeWitt are served by a Syracuse post office, and have a Syracuse zip code. Other parts of DeWitt are served by the East Syracuse post office, and have an East Syracuse zip code. And Jamesville-DeWitt High School, which is also in DeWitt, is served by the Fayetteville post office, and has a Fayetteville zip code.
So yeah…municipal borders and zip code borders aren’t always the same.
“Newtown Creek is pretty industrial”
Newtown Creek Nature walk:
How does this exist?
The part that still gets me is What is Eldert Lane a part of? Is it Brooklyn or Queens? The J/Z Train announcement “75th Street-Elderts Lane” makes it difficult to figure out, which it belongs to lol.
Elderts Lane itself is the boundary - looking north - the west side of Elderts Lane would be in Brooklyn and the east side would be in Queens. Same deal for 75 st further down when it becomes the boundary.
How are house numbers done with queens having the block and cross street in an address. It was easier when each borough had its street signs different colors, queens was white with blue letters and Brooklyn had black with white letters, all changed in the 80s with the green with white letters everywhere. I'm a Bronx boy and not familiar with any street number system for either borough.
I grew up on Eldert Lane. Went to the High School shown on 8:04
Lived awhile in East Willamsburg right up where it basically becomes Ridgewood and just had to click.
Want to clarify that the Bay Ridge 95th Street R train stop is 10,000% in Bay Ridge
I have a dr in bushwich/ridgewood. sometimes they call it bushwich, and sometimes ridgewood.
Remember, the original County lines were established as property lines for the various huge rural estates that existed at the time or along incorporated villages. That is why it is confusing plus Newtown Creek and Gowanus and other water bodies have been channelized so they don't reflect the original borders.
ON LONG ISLAND 4 COUNTYS BROOKLYN (KINGS) QUEENS NASSAU AND SUFFOLK COUNTY.
is your caps lock key broken
What about Long Beach?
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Very interesting video, will def have to check out Highland Park! When I've taken the J that part always interested me because "omg it's not flat! A hill!!" Also it's wild to me a neighborhood like The Hole exists in NYC, one of the world's richest cities, and isn't connected to the sewer system, like, what??
Google Maps' borders are very unreliable so why would anyone pick that over a government-issued geographic survey or whatever??
Wow I always thought Highland Park/Ridgewood Reservoir was part of Brooklyn, not Queens.
That’s so true, my mans lives in bushwick and I never know that he lives literally across the street from queens even tho I be with him all the time there
The google maps issue is actually Google maps being wrong. The problem is the data is pulled from algorithms, rather than being hand-drawn, so occasionally you will get slightly incorrect borders. This actually almost cause a war in South America once. If you found government documents showing the borders, those are what would be considered official and used in legal scenarios, so those are the ones which would be technically correct, because if it came down to the law, those are what would be referenced. Hope this helps.
the WHAT birdge?
I was screaming at that part, what did he call that bridge??
😂😂😂
7:55 you can see the difference in home design
Good video
census maps are what google is trying to replicate. census maps are what matters for law
idk seems kinda obvious to me
KOS KEE YOU SKO BRIDGE. That is how I’ve always heard it.
😂😂love the content
I presume the Post Office knows which address is in Queens and which is in Brooklyn.
Dang. I just wrote about this before I saw this.
Short answer: zip code borders and municipal borders aren’t always the same thing. They merely tell which post office handles your mail. Here in Central New York, the Town of DeWitt has zip codes for Syracuse, East Syracuse, and Fayetteville.
I lived in two boroughs which are Brooklyn and Queens
There should be a connection between the Bronx and Queens trains at least 2 trains
no. just no. the bronx and queens are 2 different planets. never compare them.
I expect the border should be fairly clear. Once upon a time, Queens was not part of NYC. At that time, the border was clear. It really still is.
Queens and Brooklyn became a part of NYC at the same time. So that doesn’t really have any thing to do with the clear border
Ridgewood use to Be Brooklyn. Bushwick and Ridgewood have a very complicated history.
Ridgewood used to have a Brooklyn zip code, 11227 They changed it in 1980
I use to work in green point BK right across from LIC queens…… 🤷🏻♂️💭
Why on earth would Brooklyn and Queens unevenly divide cemeteries? I’m guessing that if there are any county property taxes or services that a building would be considered in one county or the other. Hm who knows. Thanks
We have the 1847 Rural Cemetery Act to thank for that.
Towards the middle of the 19th Century, burial grounds in Manhattan were pretty much full. Establishing new ones was out of the question for the still growing city (not to mention the health problems arising from the smaller overcrowded churchyards), so the New York Legislature implemented a new law that banned burials within Manhattan, but at the same time allowed religious organizations and cemetery corporations to establish new cemeteries outside the island.
Large areas of Brooklyn and Queens were rural farmland at the time, and the large tracts of land that were available in conjunction with the proximity to Manhattan made them ideal locations for cemeteries.
The anomaly of the Brooklyn-Queens border comes into the story when individual private cemeteries, which were property tax-exempt, were regulated to occupy only a certain amount of land, which would naturally restrict their profitability as they filled up.
On the other hand, if a cemetery straddled the border between Kings and Queens counties, it could occupy twice as much land, increasing its profitability whilst also remaining property tax-exempt.
It was a very smart idea.
You’re probably my neighbor 😂
I am not going to ask again when are you able to do the rating on the BMT Lines half of April is gone by now
Probably June/July
Sad reality for "THE HOLE" neighborhood. I will see as the wasteland.
5:15 what the heck happened in 2012
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Do the queens long island border now i begg
You know you’ve crossed into Queens when the addresses have hyphens.
This is the best representation of the border: A shitty mess 😂
The thumbnail looked like some kind of bug imo.
“Koz-key-ou-skow”
Kuh shoosh ko
Nope
@@NiKiMa023 that’s how he said it, i know it’s not correct i was pointing that out
Shoutout Flatbush
Tech Transiiit 😃
you are silly with flushing avenue, as avenues and streets might be the named for the the direction they head to.
When New York City was formed we are literally one rock the island of long island covered with miles of ice after the Ice Age Queens became the terminal meringue the edge Of the big rock we call Long Island which is actually one huge rock and Brooklyn Queens Nassau County and Suffolk are all connected always have been always will be one big rock covered with ice which melted I made the island Newtown Creek and the East River are not rivers or bodies of water at all they are estuaries where freshwater and saltwater mix which we turned into where we collect run off when it rains all of the water that washes all of the contaminants on our rolls on our streets we then route there Nassau County puts them in the stump a big dirt hole some people use septic tanks we use the East River and New South Creek they are full completely cemented in and no longer connect to anything so they basically pulled but to answer you Brooklyn and Queens are on the island of Long Island and we are one
You said all of that to say ‘we’re all one’. Yes, as a land mass. But Brooklyn, Queens and LI are still separate entities
I heard there are mob bodies buried in the hole😮.
But why tho
the border is mental, not geographic
All you see is garbage lol. Perfect representation of NYC.
Stupid video. Neether Google nor the census map establishes a border. The border is a matter of public record, and every surveyor knows where the border is. Do your homework CORRECTLY.
Fun Fact:
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This video is useless. Look at the NYC Subway map and it has all the county borders.
Um... no. The subway map is not official, for one.
the subway map is a hot joke
6:00 You said Hylan blvd, lol
Now do the Queen & Nassau Borders next. Or as I like to call it, “W. Queens & E. Queens” Borders.