OIL STOVE | How the CARBURETOR / REGULATOR Works | How to adjust and clean it
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- How the carburetor / regulator works on a gravity fed oil stove. This video covers the external and internal parts. It also covers my method for adjusting the regulator / carburettor to have a proper flame at the minimum and maximum setting. These stoves operate without electricity, which is ideal for people living off the power grid or for those who would benefit from a dependable source of back up heat or an added cooking surface. They also use use #1 or #2 fuel oil (Diesel), which easily hooks-up to an oil tank fed by gravity or vacuum pump.
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Finally someone doing videos about oil stoves. Great job Phil
Thanks man! Hope they help :)
very helpful video intelligently presented for the non expert to understand
Thank you so much for posting your videos, Phil! I may have just found one of these stoves near me and I am debating purchasing it. You're presentation is clear and concise and much appreciated!
Thank you so much - we were really struggling to light the fire in our new home. Couldn't have worked it out without your video!
So glad I could help :) enjoy the heat!
Greetings from Ireland, a great video and explanation of how the stove and regulator works, it has been a great help to achieve the purple/blue flame and a clean burn, thanks a million!
Great to hear I could help!
Excellent videos, I have an oil stove for 20 years, working like a dream mostly and very efficient and economical to run. I live in a very windy environment in Ireland so I sometimes have downdraught problems in stormy conditions. Thank you I learned a lot, even after 20 years!
Great job Phil ! I too live in Quebec and found your video particularly usefull since I have a cottage with an oil stove which does seem tempermental. Thanks again !!
Nice one Phil. I just picked up a used Refleks 2000 for my narrowboat and intend to give the regulator a clean up before installation. I would have absolutely been happily spinning the adjustment screw so your sage advice to go slowly is duly noted!
Yes, slow is key with these stoves!
Thanks. Great information. Maintaining an AGA stove with one of these regulators on it. Never knew anything about the inner workings. “I was blind, but now I see”. Thanks.
Thank you. After 20 years I finally know how to adjust the regulator for my oil fired Rayburn.
Glad i could help!
Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video. You have no idea how helpful it is! One AGA filter successfully removed, cleaned and replaced. It sounds dumb but I can't wait for the AGA to finish cooling down so I can relight it. Hopefully then it will be much hotter!! Thanks again!
Glad it helped! If you need any other videos about these stoves, let me know :)
@@philg Thank you!!
Thank you! With two videos I now understand everything i needed to know my stove that was a complete mystery to me 30 minutes ago. This was invaluable. I wasn't able to find any good information elsewhere. Then I found you and now I know everything. Hahaha... Great information! Well done videos!
Glad I could help!!
Hi mate,
This is the most useful video ever! I have adjusted my carburetor easily. I couldn't reset it because the flow was too high. The first chamber was filling too much and after 30mn the carburetor was resetting because the second chamber was full due to the overflow. I have readjusted the low flame screw and it now works perfectly.
Many thanks again.
All the best
Marc
Thank you so much. Without your video we would never have worked out how to light the fire in our new home.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for the help I’m hoping I can get mine properly adjusted I was doing everything you were doing! Getting extremely frustrated with inconsistent heat.
Let me know if it works!
Awesome video, I’ve been heating my work shop for 12 years with this type of stove. My stove has a blower on it. Myself I clean the stove and carb twice a year. I’ve never had a issue with it. Very reliable stove. Thank you..
For the comment. I agree, they do work extremely well when they are cleaned regularly.
Thank you so much for the information. Our new (used) stove turns off at about 4-1/2, so I am anxious to try setting it properly -
Awesome !
Let me know if it works! The big thing is to be patient once you adjust the max flame and min flame screw. Good luck :)
I just bought an "Old" oil stove to heat my woodworking shop. I don't have it set up yet but it is ready to put in place. I want to thank you for sharing your researched knowledge. I was concerned about the operation and adjustment of the Carburetor because I don't know if my stove will work properly. With your explicit information, I feel that I can confidently make any necessary adjustments. Thanks again.
I am glad that I could be of help. If there is anything else, please let me know and I will make another video.
Thank you, very helpful video. My stove has been experiencing only a very low heat flame. Will try cleaning the filter first then proceed to adjustments if necessary. Will also check height of oil tank compared to stove as I moved around to side of house rather than in front.
Great video, been waiting for it!! Was just thinking about these when I was laying in bed this am. ?? Do a lot of thinking there. We had an oil stove in the living room when I was growing up. I think that something like this could be used for making waste oil stoves more safe. I am a big proponent of CLEANING the oil very well and having it a bit above room temp before metering it to improve consistency. I retired after 30 years of working in a facility maintenance shop. Ya gotta do things right to save time. Again, Thank You, Sir! Michael in Colorado.
Good day, thank you for the comment and I hope this video helps you. I will soon be making a video by trying to burn waste oil from my vehicles oil change. It should be interesting to see if it works, I also bought kerosine in case I need to increase the fuel temperature. Stay tuned, much love from Canada.
This was a very useful video along with the general intro one. Thank you for uploading this. Its a very niche topic so not much information out there.
Thanks!! I just 'inherited' a house with a 1950's -60's oil stove.. this one has a blower/wall thermostat. The actual workings of the valve seems identical to your example. I found out yesterday the stove isn't putting out enough heat, and only about 2/3's of the ring is covered in flame. My guess is it's simply starved for fuel. Side note; the original outside tank is also 60 yrs. old, with no filter on the line. I'm hoping the internal filter is plugged! It will be getting an additional inline filter as well. I have to make sure the bottom of the 300 gallon tank isn't 6 inches of sludge/algae/rust/dirt first! Uncle told me the burner needs cleaned 1-2x a season, and that part is done.
About all that is left is the fuel situation.
Without your video, I had no idea where to even start, or how these things even function! Thanks!
Thank you so much,your video has brought me back to my younger years,now I know what I need to do.You are very explanatory on important details we appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us thank you again.
Thank you so much for the lovely comment! If I can help explain anything else, please let me know :)
Great video, clear and very concise. Your model of "carburetor" is very heuristic.
I have dealt with these contraptions for at least fifty years, from kerosene-burning heaters, and I can tell you, they haven't changed a bit. I myself have had the same, very trustworthy Italian furnace for more than 25 years now. I clean the carburetor and tune it up every year. When Autumn (cold) weather begins we light it up and keep it on permanently, night and day, for five to six months. Unfortunately, after the last weeks' significant increase in the price of oil derivatives I suspect these will tend to disappear.
Keep up the good work!
I have one that is more antiquated than a carburetor it's kind of like a variable waterfall inside of a long valve vertical
I really appreciate this video and have a far greater understanding of my oil stove. Currently running it with the dial at the lowest possible setting and it's keeping my structure comfortable. However, it seems like the consumption is high. I'm going to take the advice given in this video and see if it makes a difference. If my fuel consumption isn't impacted at least my stove will burn cleaner.
Let me know if that works of if there is anything else you would like me to explain better or cover. Cheers!
the stove will burn about 200 gallons in three - 4 weeks on the third setting depending on insulation and heating needs . this would be average -10 maybe as low as -20 a few days.R 20 wall R 30 roof Running fulltime mind you. i have a customer with this setup , she gets 3 full tanks of oil a season. around 3200 CAD delivered . The flame is always a clean blue
Hi! I am glad to find the info about classical oil stove, as I did not have any information or manual until I found youtube of you and of a few others. I have a problem about my Coleman oil stove which does not have oil flowing into the buning chamber... It had been working OK for decades but finally stop feeding the oil a few years ago. It was just left unused for more than 5 years and I finally started to do something about it. To begin with, I drain the old kerosene from the oil tank and disassemble the oil regulator assy to clean the parts today and hopefully it wokrs again when I assemble.... I will clean the burning chamber as I can see a lot of debris at the bottom, following your advice. Thank you for useful information, I 'l let you know when it comes back to work. So wish me luck! (from Japan)
Yes let me know!! Hope you get it to work. Cheers
@@philg Thank you for your resopnse and I have a good news about my stove. I cleaned every parts and tried starting the stove, but it first did not work. I believed mechanically it was OK and did not know what to do more... I was about to give up, then I just tilted the stove forward then oil came out!! It seems that the holizontal level of the stove is the key...
Anyway it was good to do the clean up for this stove. It will be installed in my house later... But before that, what I think about my Coleman stove (model #871 ) is adding this stove an air supplying tube (with air blower) just like many people do to burn the waste oil stove to have blue flame.. Do you think it is possible?? Or can this oil stove bear the heat? Is it safe to run this enhancement in the room?? let me know your opinion...
Thanks mate .I’ve done that tried adjusting with out now what I’m doing .I now what I’m doing tomorrow morning .cleaning the glass and adjusting to your helping hand thanks
Hope it helps!!
Thanks , Watch all your oil stove videos , and fixed my carburator , the lever kept going up because the oil level was set to high ... saved my Napoleon stove
Glad to help
Phil your video has help me soo much! Have inherited a cabin in Michigan. Have been using this Duo-Therm Motor Wheel Corp. oil burner for 30 yrs she is a beauty! Just had the regulator knob on the bottom that holds the rod crumble. Any idea where to find a replacement knob?
Quick note an old timer told me 409 spray cleans soot off your floors window glass. This has helped me a lot. Thanks in advance for all ur help
Thanks your video really helped me i was struggling with the proper adjustment sequence for quite some time
Glad it helped!
Huge fan of you doing this so helpfull you have helped me so much as I have also spent a lot of time on this! My regulator is opposite of yours on the top of the regulator (Carborator) it increases counter clockwise snd decreases flame clockwise hope this helps. They are indicated on the top of the regulator + and -
Brilliant! Just what I needed. Thanks very much.
Thank you for all you videos! We have one of the old Coleman furnace oil gravity fed and your videos have been a a huge help. Finally got it running and throwing some heat with no black smoke billowing out the chimney. Just discovered that adjustment screw is missing. I don’t know if it was ever there TBH. Can it be replaced with just any screw that will fit? May seem like a dumb question but this has been a 2 winter labour of love project. Lol. I would hate to be back to square one.
Phil, I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to make this video, I have a franco belge stove with exactly same regulator, it was already in the apartment I bought and wasn't working with cracked glass, so I cleaned it up replaced the glass tried to light but nothing so I took the regulator lid off and it was like treacle inside, 45 minutes later and half a bottle of methylated spirit and it was cleaned and every previously seized component was now moving as it should . I've been pissing about adjusting as per your instructions and it's now 10 oclock at night ( I started at 9 this morning ) but everything seems to be working as it should . Cheers mate - Jackie
Thanks for the comment and glad you got your stove to work! Once adjusted, they really are little gems :)
@@philg spoke too soon, can't get it to run properly now, it was working fine then we had a storm and it won't reach high flame,I've also had a delivery of heating oil but I think the previous owner ran it on kerosine. So took regulator apart again and cleaned with meths but no joy . Maybe there is a blockage in the pipe . I'll let you know Phil .
@@philg ok so by process of elimination the chimney is clean and have a good draw. when i start fire up process I turn to 2 setting letting the oil pool for a few minutes then I use methylated spirits in the catalyser, light up and for first few minutes get the desired effect but as it stabilises the flame drops and no amount of adjustment changes the low flame, the catalyser glows red as it should but it seems it's not getting correct fuel delivery. So I suspect their must be a blockage somewhere so time to get radical, I will turn oil supply off, clean regulator completly of oil and fill with meths then operate as normal to see if I can flush out any blockage . wish me luck
@@scarlettwill all the best! Let me know how it works out. In a new video, I open up the regulator, take a look at the slot where the oil goes through and the filter.
@@philg So, took the regulator off and re-cleaned with methylated spirit, then put a hose pipe over the fuel line to the stove and blew it was definitely restricted, gave it a good hard blow and a bit of tarry crud flew into the stove like a bullet ! so I used fibreglass rod I use to feed cables through walls which is about 5mm diameter and very flexible to rod out the fuel line . Put it all back together and bingo It works well, only slight and expensive problem was I managed to crack stove glass as I moved it back into place, this was new glass that cost me £135 plus £75 customs charge to have custom made in Uk and sent here to Malta , my bad .... but I have made a temporary repair using aluminium tape both sides with fire cement mastic along the joins and applied liberally. it doesn't look great but it holds and no fumes are escaping so will make do until I can replace the glass. It's all trial and error but it warms up the place just fine. thanks once again for putting this video up. Merry Xmas mate !- Jack
Excellent video and very well explained. Thanks
Great how to video. Appreciate the info. If I could add anything, I'd like to mention best not to make the hight low adjustments while there are heavy winds. I found it fluctuated the flame dramatically making it difficult to make the fine adjustments.
Very good tip!! Thanks for sharing, I’ll try and include that in a future video
Fantastic video Just what I needed. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Thank you!
Thanks man !
Your video is very informative and helpfull.
Glad I could help!!
Great video! Thanks for the good information.
Thank you!
Thank you for putting this video together. I have problem with my Franco Belge Merville. It has ran for years with minimal maintenance until now. Even at its highest setting (6) there's barely any flame. I've cleaned the burner pot, the regulator filter, and fuel input at the descaler. I replaced the inline filter. I blew the fuel line from the filter back to the tank. Fuel flow to the regulator seems normal now. But fuel flow into the burn pot still is measly on the highest setting. The problem seems to be narrowed down to the regulator. Any other ideas before I open the regulator? How difficult is maintenance on the regulator internals?
Update: Yesterday I removed the regulator and cleaned with brake parts cleaner, compressed air , and Tarn-X on the brass and copper parts. There was probably a 1/4" of sludge in the bottom. I also found that the copper tube connecting the regulator to the burner pot was partially blocked. When the tube was cut and crimped the end was never cleaned up leaving the end approximately 50% occluded with copper burring. I cleaned the hole with a diamond tipped cutter on my Dremel and 220 and 320 grit sandpaper. I cleaned the ID with pipe cleaners and Hoppes Elite Bore Cleaning Foam. I started the stove last night. Reset the low end setting a the regulator. Now the stove is running well on 3 at what used to be 6. I think this stove never ran quite right due to the throttling at the copper tube and got blocked with sludge. These stoves work best when clean and free from obstructions.
Very clear and useful. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment! Let me know if you need help with anything else
Interesting info. I just restored a GLT-II oil stove, and fired it for the first time today. My draft measurement is too low, and sooting the glass a bit, but it was warm today. (70°F/21°C) I suspect that I'll hit my proper draft below 40°F/4°C outside air temperature, and things will run cleaner, but I can extend my chimney if necessary. (Only 14ft/4.25m and supposed to be min 16.5ft/5m)
My new video is up, thank you again for your help and good advice!
Thanks for the video! I'm trying to figure out if one of these could be adjusted or modified to run on vegetable oil?
Beauty! Super informative and bang on info!
Thx!!
Thank you Phil for the nice and informative video. I have a very old Coleman oil furnace with the same type of carburator . It as been stored for many years and I would love to install it in my shed. Although furnace oil is getting rare or very expensive I was wondering can these furnace burn diesel fuel instead ? Thanks Daniel
Isn't your description of setting the high flame setting backwards? Maybe this was addressed elsewhere and I didn't catch it, but I think the high flame is increased by turning that screw counter clockwise. Great video nevertheless. I have a Dixola brand oil burner at my cabin in Northern Minnesota and your videos have helped me immensely in understanding just how it works.
Good day, the high flame is decreased by turning it clockwise. The low flame is decreased by turning it counterclockwise. Hope this helps :)
Hi Phil
Thanks for the info...I have an old stove with a similar control valve.
I understand about the high and low flame adjustment screws....but why is there a third adjustment screw on the adjustment knob itself (or under it)...?
Finally very good information on these stoves! I used mine for our portable hunt camp and we use diesel. I have few questions. 1 is it better to use stove oil?
2 is a barometric damper recommended?
3 i cleaned it all out but it always seems to soot up. Would be high/lo flame adjustment or primary air? Thank you!
Good day, glad it helped!
1. stove oil or diesel will burn pretty much the same. I haven't seen any benefits from using either.
2. yes, a damper is always a good idea to keep a steady flame.
3. It could be both, start by adjusting the flame to the low setting, and slowly increase the size. If the flame is too high, it will soot up quite quickly.
Thanks Phil I purchased an old house with an old oil burner Teco from Sears from the 60's
The last guy to fiddle with the stove was somewhere in-between red green and an acme cartoon mechanic 😂 it was a very scary first burn for me lol it put 1/2 liter in the bottom before I lit it so yeah it burned wide open for almost a hour
Ohh my haha! I hope you got it work alright :p
Sure did idk how to get photos to post to the video but I can send you some of it running sometime
Excellent. Thank you. You’ve made my day.
Can the stove ( heater) be connected to a large 700 ltr. tank ?? In order to fill it up for the whole winter.
Yes, absolutely
We have
Hi we have a very similar regulator (a Lockgate) on a morso squirrel diesel stove in our narrowboat but have no instructions on it & have not been able to find any. This you tube vlog was reccommended & it's been really helpful, thank you.
We do have a question though - If it does overflow & shuts itself off where does the oil then go so it can be restarted?
Good day, glad it helped! The oil
Will be held in a separate compartment in the regulator (shown in a diagram in my other video). When you restart it, you need to press the lever down on the regulator to get the oil to flow again. It will begin to flow again and the overflow will eventually flow into your stove :)
Very helpful, thank you so much!
My pleasure! Let me know if I can help with anything else :)
Thank you. It really helped me. Appreciate your vedio.
Thank you for your comment! Glad I could help, let me know if you want to see anything ends specifically :)
This was mega helpful thank you
Glad I could help!
Thanks very good info ..i just purchased a old seigler today.
Very nice! I am sure you will love the heat they throw out! Let me know if you need any info/help.
a super instruction. thank you very much. Are those stoves and carburator as well for sale in U.K?
Thank you! Yes you should be able to find some used ones.
We use an old Nestor Martin oil stove. I will attempt to adjust it now after watching your video. The stove starts and burns blue for a while then slow!y the flame weakens and soots up the internal parts. Maybe a dirty filter?
Yes perhaps very the filter or the air holes in the burner. Use a wire brush to remove the soot, it should help provide more oxygen to the burner. Let me know if this helps!
I'm looking to purchase one and was wondering if you could tap off the main oil line that goes to the furnace? I know that there very efficient and use a lot less oil than a typical oil furnace.
I'm new to your channel and found your video's very helpful. Thanks Again!!
I don't see why not, the oil will slowly trickle through the regulator and into the stove. Because these are gravity fed, there should be no pressure build up etc.
great video. Having trouble with my mother's oil stove in her kitchen that she still uses for cooking. Antique!!! anyways, it starts up with a nice blue flame but after 10 minutes or so, it stops and goes out. I haven't checked the filter yet for a clog but wondering if this is a safety feature...automatic shut off?
Good day, yes there is a safety that shuts off the flow of oil if too much goes into the carburator/regulator. If it shuts off after 10 minutes I would verify the filter and make sure to give the pan a good clean. This will ensure a nicer flame.
Thanks for your very informative video. I’ve tried adjusting the higher and lower level screws as you suggested and waited 10 mins or so with no noticeable difference to the flame. It seems the flame just stays to one side (the side where the oil is flowing from) and never travels other to the other side to create the ‘ring’ of fire. Any ideas or advice on this? Thank you!
Hello Edmond, it either seems like your stove is no level, or there is not enough flow going into the burner. Did you try to open the regulator? After many years, deposits can block or slow down the flow. Let me know if you figure out what the issue it!
Brilliant - many thanx👍🏼
Let me know if you want a video about something specific!
Very clear explanation and graphics which I found very helpful in understanding how my oil fired AGA cooker works. We have had problems with the flame going out recently after about a week to 10 days of operating just fine. Last time it went out I waited for it to cool, relit it and it went fine for about 10 days and then just went out. Any thoughts on what may cause this? Great video.
Do you live in a windy area perhaps? How is your chimney setup? Checkout my other video on drafts, could be the issue. Cheers.
@@philg we don’t live in a particularly windy area but I will check out your other video. Thanks.
On my GLT stove, there is a cleanout rod in the oil feed port directly connecting to the burner. Instructions state that cleanout rod requires stroking and turning once a week to keep port from clogging up with burnt carbon. Might want to check if your stove is equipped with something similar.
@@ElementofKindness Thanks for your post. There is no clean out rod in our AGA cooker. We think we have solved the problem by having the flue swept (first time in 30 years!). There wasn’t a great deal of soot/carbon but enough we think to reduce the updraft. It’s been working since then 🤞
I have a stove from the 40s. It has an end heater (oil burning). It has a regulator (constant leveler) but doesn't have the high low knob or set screws on the cover. Would you say use it cause it was original equipment or get one with an adjustment on it? I plan on hooking up this propane 4burner stove/ oil end heater soon and appreciate any advice you can give me.
Hi I've got a DeVille stove and I've been using it for years worry-free this year I went to fire it up and fluid leaked out where the disarming switch is I assume after watching your video that the floats and the shut off malfunctions so I'm going to take it apart again and look at the intake screen make sure that's clean and I will probably drain the carburetor itself and make sure there's nothing plugging the intake line and see what happens do you have any other suggestions thank you for clarifying that disarming switch and its function I always forget which direction it needs to go it needs to go up to turn it on and down to turn it off that helps
Thanks. Helped me alot
Glad it haloed :)
Excellent...you are a great teacher...you must be an engineer. Can you do a video showing how to service the regulators on a Dickinson (Newport) Diesel Heater and or a Reflex Diesel Heater? Best SV Aquila...Seattle
Phil thanks to me watching your video all sorted thank pal 👍👍Alan
Glad to hear! If there is any other video I can help with, let me know.
I have a heater that uses one of these carburetor. 1947 Sears pot belly oil burner. Been burning used oil through it very well except for the needed cleaning every day or two from the build up and chimney pipe cleaning every couple weeks. Was told to preheat the oil and that would help the soot and chimney build up a a lot.
I was thinking of doing a single or double loop of the copper tubing around the stove pipe but can't find any information if the carburetor will be ok with the oil heated.
Was also trying to find a way to preheat the pipe that goes into the belly, but not having much luck.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Bob
That’s a great question. I don’t think heating the copper line will affect the function much. Maybe running it at a lower setting to counteract the heated oil that’s maybe less viscous. Is your oil line freezing or affecting the flow? I’ve ran mine at minus 30 Celsius with no flow issues. Let me know :)
My father and grandfather used 1950's era Siegler oil fuel oil heaters. It had a electric blower. We always started it by turning the fuel on until we saw fuel oil in the bottom of the combustion chamber then throw a lit bunch of toliet paper in and shut the door.
Hi Phil, great video. However, I'm not getting any fuel into my burner pot. The fuel is running from the on/off but not exiting the regulator. I have checked the filter and it is fine. Any thoughts?
You need to remove your regulator and take the top off and remove the needle valve and float. Sounds like you have a float that is full of oil and it’s not letting the needle valve to open and let fuel in.
Fantasic help . thank you.
Thank you for the comment :)
Thank you for this information. I attempted to adjust the regulator before I watched your video, yes that was a mistake. I had adjusted the flow of fuel so low that I couldn't get it to work below "3". (long story) Following your instruction I have been able to regain flow at the 1 and 2 positions on the dial. However, I am unable to get the blue flame that should be visible on the 1 setting. All I am getting is an orange flame at the bottom of the bucket where the oil enters said bucket. Can you help or direct me to someone who knows what they are doing? Thanks so much.
Is the bottom of your pan flat? Maybe check your overflow valve or chimney length
Bloody good vid
you were awesome I have an old oil burner my parents used when I was a kid. If i have an electric blower does that affect the operation of the rest of the stove? or would it still be gravity fed. My parents had two other stoves with gravity fed tanks but the only one left has a fuel tank you fill with a fuel can right on it. would that change anything? JR
The fan will not affect the stove. It will still be gravity fed. The fan only distributes the heat more efficiently, however the stove can function without power (fan won't run).
Hi, I have recently had my Rayburn serviced which has a regulater box as seen in your video. However the flue box now has tar in it and the slide is difficult to open and close as the tar stuff is making it stick, the chimney looks fine the cowl is still on the top. I rang the guy who servived it and he says it sounds like a chimney problem. It also smells in the house of fumes. He did have the top off the regulator box. Could something have been put back incorrectly
It you have fumes in the house, verify your door seal and make sure you don’t have negative draft (air going back down the chimney). Sometimes adding a few feet of length to the chimney makes a huge difference. For the tar, make circles and push it in and out to clear it up.
Hey I have a question for you. I have an oil stove in my cabin and it has this same carbeurator. I moved the fuel tank and had to cut the hose and add length to it. I also changed the fuel filter while I was at it. Got it all bled out of air at the bleed screw on the filter housing. It is gravity fed by the way. Now I can’t seem to keep oil flowing to the carburetor and into the stove. I blew into the tank and oil would flow into the burn pot I would light it and it would go out. Fuel won’t continue to flow. Any ideas would be very helpful. I thought there would be some kind of bleed screw on the carb but not finding anything. Thanks
Terry
Good day, perhaps take the oil filer cap from the carb off to bleed the line. Sounds like you may have an air bubble stuck in your line, preventing the flow from the tank.
Hi! Thank's for the video. My float doesn't seem to operate properly, my carb is overflowing. Is there any info about the float adjustement? Thank's
Check out my recent video about regulators, I open one up and it may help you identify the issue on yours. It may just be stuck. Cheers!
you are the man
Thanks :)
Fantastic
Thank you! Cheers!
Very nice vedio
many thanks for reply
it's using kerosene here in Ireland
unfortunately the TV set up puts the main chair beside this regulator
it seems regulator on off arm is open to the fuel.is it permissable to put some removable mastic around this arm regards des
You could try with mastic to manual control the arm, I would be cautious and remain close to the stove for a few hours to ensure it remains safe
If the burner is running too hot at the minimum setting, is it the low flame adjustment, or the high one I need to adjust?
Love your videos.👍 i have just purchased a Siegler oil furnice and couldn't open the front viewing door when buying it. Got it home and openned the door and found the fire box corroded thru in a couple of places. Near the bottom ledge and on the left courner. But i have 2 questions 1. Can i rebuild/repair the firebox with ceramic fiber board and why can't i move the knob on the carberator at all. It has a small metal box on the top of the carb .near the knob with some dort of spring mechanism. On the other side laying above the carb is a box the connects to the power outlet which then connects to the fan. What are these things and can i savage any of it. So far only the fan works after tapping it it will turn on
Thank you! I'm not too familiar with the Siegler stoves, but I would use sheet metal to rebuild anything inside the stove as the heat will melt any fiber material. Try heating up the knob with a torch, it may be stuck. I beleive the part you are talking about is the pilot flame generator, to turn on the stove itself. Let me know if any of this helps, cheers!
Well the ceramic fiber is used in in kelms for ceramics. I don't think it would ever melt ceramic fibers since its used on my woodstove. But i will try the heat but obviously not the knob cause it would melt them. Where should i apply heat
Also Ceramic fiber is commonly used on stove gas furnaces that would otherwise melt the sheet metal.
I am using a 50's era Coleman space heater at the hunt camp. The heater works ok but the flame is very orange / yellow, very little blue and not much heat. I am burning Diesel fuel and was trying to figure out how to adjust the heater to burn hotter / produce more heat? Any suggestions? Your presentation, explanations and graphics are great! Keep it up!
Sounds like you may not be getting enough air, is your burger clean and I’d there enough air coming in? Hope this helps!
@@philg I vacuumed out the burner pot, the problem is I cannot see anyplace for air to enter around the base(or any where else). Could it be that I need to fiddle with the draft control? Its a model 871 Coleman. Here is a link to the manual (where it does not mention an Air intake). s7d1.scene7.com/is/content/Coleman/Canada/Product%20Manuals/871%20Oil%20Space%20Heater.pdf
@@montaguebob good day, there should be small holes on the vertical walls of the pan. Try using a wire brush to expose them. I assume that the interiors walls of the burning pan have a layer or residue, not allowing the air to enter the chamber properly. Let me know if this helps.
Can you make a video on the ideal low flame and the ideal high flame? How does it look? Grtz from Belgium
Yes! Checkout my other videos for this. Cheers.
Thank you
Mine has a plug,a metal one, misplaced the manual,it was hanging inside the pan, but goes in the side,does this need to be in or out to run the stove?
I'm looking for any tips for 'bürkert ölofen regler type 910', I have a problem with control level of oil; maby have you any information on specification of this construcion
Well done thank you
Thank you!
Thanks but Can i use Burnt oil extracted from cars with diesel in this stove ?
Phil, my regulator has a metal box about 1 1/2" , sq.on 3 sides and a bit rounded on the top,attached to the top at the end near the control knob, with a long screw that has a spring/lever under it. it appears to read "fire" on the left side, and "air(e)" on the right. It also has a copper wire that goes into the back of the unit but I cant tell what it connects to and what is the purpose? do you have any idea what it is? I have seen other photos on this kind of heater (Siegler) with this same device online.
I have been having issues with this unit smelling of diesel and running too rich. It has caused me headaches, but it is my main heat source. i have shut it down and cleaned the soot out really good to allow better air flow and cleaned the filter (which was in great shape), but I am wondering if this box thing is an adjustment of some kind? I probably wont take the regulator apart until I can find out what this thing is. I wish i could send a photo, but youtube doesn't allow, i guess.
I appreciate any help! thanks
If you are willing, this might be worth a try: Shut off the gas. Disconnect the pilot tube. Use your canned air to blow up thru the pilot tube & pilot assembly. Reconnect the pilot tube, turn on the gas, light the pilot, & try the furnace. We might get lucky & you blow some junk out of the pilot assembly creating a stronger pilot & more voltage.
@@philg I will definitely do that. It seems to be running a bit better now since I have cleaned the inside and the air holes, but it does seem to be slow filling the bottom of the tank when I first light it, and the low flame adjustment probably needs to eventually be adjusted. I definitely need to extend my exhaust to increase my draft and be more careful about how I light it to reduce soot. Your videos have been helpful, but I will feel more comfortable experienting with making adjustments once things warm up and I can take my time to go inside the regulator.
Thanks for your advice and I will let you know how things go!:)
ps- Did you ever figure out what the box on my regulator is? If you paste in this link and go to the 8th image youwill see a fairly close up view of what I am speaking of.
unitedstatesstove.biz/2016/12/06/heater-stove-large-porcelain-cast-iron-by-siegler-illinois-oil-or-kerosene/
I acquired a heater that had not been used in years I cleaned the filter put in some fuel and crossed my fingers it worked for a while but then stopped getting fuel I dissembled and cleaned the whole thing now it gets too much fuel and trips the second float help!
Do you know how to set the Low Fire Limit screw (not the low fire - high fire on the slider?)
On mine, when you depress the actuator pin down, the oil flow stops completely rather than going to low fire
Does your float get stuck? Sometimes the overflow is too full causing it to trip right away.
Any idea where to buy replacement floats?
Do you know of a rebuild kit or where to get parts for it? Everything im seeing in the states its unavailable
Have you tried eBay?
I have an old Siegler oil burner. Was cleaning the control valve an lost the metering valve spring.
Could you please help me find a replacement.
Thank you.
I will look around and let you know if I find any.
Would it work if you bypass the carb and just regulate the fuel with a ball valve or something?
It could, but your ball valve would need to be perfectly adjusted. Might work for a bit and the it would be out of sync.
Phil, I need the entire unit-carburetor/regulator for my oil stove. Where can I buy one?
I would check on eBay or a local heating store.
hi im hoping Phil or anyone, i have watched the video carefully, i ran out of oil, once the tank was filled, there was no oil reaching in the stove, cleaned the filter on the oil tank and the regulator, oil is getting to the regulator but not into the stove, any suggestions? thank you from the uk
Good video. My stove stopped working. So I removed the filter. It wasn't very dirty. I cleaned it. And there still isn't any oil coming in from the line in the bottom of the stove. I removed the line coming into the stove and it was clear as well. Does this mean the valve itself is not working properly?
It could be the valve or maybe you need to use that lever behind The stove to clear out the line going from the regulator to the burning pot. Let me know if this helps.
Found the problem. The filter coming off the tank was plugged. Replaced it and it's up and running. Trying to adjust the low flame so it's blue and not yellow is a struggle though. On low setting it's yellow for the most part. If I turn the stove up to a higher setting it goes blue. Any tips on what I can do?