That's fairly likely. They're considering making rule changes to "make larger cars more competitive". What exactly those rules are is anyone's guess, but the Delta would be the perfect fit for it.
Thank you for this video and the exciting news! I look forward to your WM video, very original choice. A lot of the interesting but obscure and weird Group C cars are often forgotten!
@@lucaspiredda7677 That is VERY cool to know. A 350Z-powered Dacia Duster, which is basically a Dacia Sandero cross, before crossovers where a big thing.
yooo just as I was reading an article about this haha Its cool that Lancia is back, but its kinda sad since Lancia coming back probably means Citroen will pull out, kinda like how Peugeot did after Citroen joined
Yeeeeeeessssss! Hopefully they build an actual Fast Delta Integrale. I pray that they take inspiration from the GR Yaris/Corolla. They seem to be popular/profitable enthusiast cars. 2 (ish) Liter with 400+ HP where it can compete with an entry level 911 for less than half the price would be my dream Delta HF. Most hot hatches are FWD econo-boxes that are modified into a hot hatch. What if you built the car from the ground up to be a hot hatch? Put the transverse engine/gearbox behind the front axle for weight distribution. Lean the engine/valve cover forward to harken back to the original (and to put enough room for intake next to the firewall). Offset the intercooler to the gearbox side to balance L/R weight. If its a hybrid push the batteries to the back. Permanent AWD, if hybrid put electric power to the back to get rearward power distribution.
Really glad Lancia is back at rallying, even though I think the Ypsilon looks simply *_Awful_* with capitalized A, but just the front, in the rest, it looks decent Future will tell if they can succed once more with the Ypsilon
Since now a Stellantis satelite I would not be surprised if Lancia engineering department "borrowed" some of the now discontinued 208 T16 R5 solutions, trchnology and know-how, and used it as a development accelerator. Or maybe they will go into Rally3 as a first step to modern all wheel drive rallying?
I have the ultimate soft spot for old Lancias, mainly due to the fact that I share a birthday with one of the biggest names in rallying as well, so hearing this and the return of the Gamma (odd choice... I have a feeling I may be missing somert there...) and the legendary Delta!? No, I'm not crying cuz I'm sad, don't be ridiculous!
Both. The dynamic outside footage is a rendering, whilst the footage of the car being unveiled on the stage is the real car. Lancia's official youtube and website are the sources of both.
I really hope manufacturers find the new Rally1 ruleset interesting. I don't really doubt Lancia is heading for Rally2 (and possibly also Rally3) later on, but we'll see about Rally1. If the ruleset is interesting for Stellantis, I'm sure we'll see either Lancia, or Peugeot or Citroen at the very top of WRC. They also own Fiat and Opel, both iconic brands in rallying, though obviously not Lancia level iconic. Both brands are currently producing rally cars, with Opel producing the Rally4 Corsa and Fiat producing the 124 Abarth RGT (in what sadly seems to be a somewhat dead class).
Mandatory F.I.A.: Teams cannot be sponsored by alcohol or tobacco..... Ferrari with malboro, and lancia with Martini: Hey mario, these stronzos are telling us how to Paint our cars..... Luigi, hold my spaghetti.....
Alcohol brands can sponsor but their products need to be 0.0 alcohol, see Heineken in F1 but national law can block the sponsor like in Saudi Arabia and Peroni on Ferrari and Aston Martin vehicles
Their reputation was already dead by the time the old Ypsilon came out. They need to think of themselves as basically a startup company because they'll have to rebuild from nothing.
@@FailedRacers Because Startup always end up great, right? 🤣 Not at all Vaporware, Promises and running away with the money and the S word I cannot write otherwise my comment gets flagged for it. Good to hear about the change of schedule due to real life duties. Good luck with University 👍👍
As an italian car guy, I'm hopeful they could start make great cars again instead of the shitty ones they currently make, even the new delta isn't exactly a neck-turner Maybe they could return to be a luxury-rally brand as till the early 90s they made NIICE cars, not overpriced fiats that don't even have good interior to begin with, the famous delta HF was a product of high quality and higher price range compared to idk a golf gti of the times, it was like a M3 performance (or even better) hatchback with AWD and more than 200 horses (which by today standard it's like 350-400) Let's hope they make a new Delta that comes back as a valid competitor to RS/M/AMG performance and we can finally see a good heir of the "Deltona"
this is just dumb, lancia is not "coming back" they are just replacing the old peugeot and opel rally cars with the "new" ypsilon that has the exact same chasis as the 208 and the astra. this is just a re-brand of old cars again and peugeot so far has been doing average in rally4 so dont expect great results or getting into the max category any time soon, maybe they wont even get there.
Where does the 1.2litre engine come from? Is it a spec engine, or something from another manufacturer? I can't find any details, and they don't offer it on the road car version, so I'm assuming they didn't build it. (Definitely not asking for when a dead electric Lancia HF ever crosses my path)
VW made the Fabia R5 alongside the Polo WRC. It was as dominant as the Polo but Skoda never came back to top class Rally. And this big merge FIAT is inside is less likely than Volkswagen to nurture internal competition. I don't think we'll see Lancia back in Rally1.
I wouldn't say VW did Fabia R5, they were too occupied with Polo R WRC development. They had a great involvement in Fabia S2000 but a limited one with the R5. Mlada Boleslav was the one mostly responsible for the R5 and next Rally2 Škodas. It was the Polo GTI R5 that benefited from Fabia being developed inside the VAG as some ideas and solutions were "inspired" by Škoda achievements.
bleh, this is just a reskinned 208/Corsa, which also exist in Rally4 guise... what's the point of having so many mechanically identical cars, like who cares
Watch the documentary playlist here:
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Bringing back Delta to Rally1 is a PR wet-dream. They must go with that one.
So you'll be waiting until 2030-32?
@@MrBlazemaster525 Im waiting for 35 years already, I have time.
I personally think the Ypsilon might be a stop gap while they wait for the Delta to become the Rally 1 machine
That's fairly likely. They're considering making rule changes to "make larger cars more competitive". What exactly those rules are is anyone's guess, but the Delta would be the perfect fit for it.
I hope they're going to bring back the group a regulations for bringing down cost of entry or something.
3:16 It makes sense because the car is basically a Peugeot 208 Rally4 with a different body.
Lancia look lie they borrrow design from Citroen, front end.
Always nice to see someone coming back,love the Martini style livery. Finally someone new
4:57 Delta is also confirmed to be on its way as a hatch so I wouldn’t be surprised if it is their Rally1/2 car instead
That new Ypsilon looks incredible in rally colours, even though I am waiting for the new Delta as much as you all
Thank you for this video and the exciting news! I look forward to your WM video, very original choice. A lot of the interesting but obscure and weird Group C cars are often forgotten!
Now we just need a Dacia Sandero Stepway Rally Raid car to tackle the Dakar.
Dacia WILL be going to Dakar next year with Sebastien Loeb of all people driving for them. Unfortunately the car is hideous, it looks pre-crashed
Like it licked a lemon and made that face.
Actually, back when the Dakar was held in South America, Renault Argentina used to enter two Duster Rally Raid T1 prototypes powered by a Nissan VQ35.
@@lucaspiredda7677 That is VERY cool to know. A 350Z-powered Dacia Duster, which is basically a Dacia Sandero cross, before crossovers where a big thing.
They’d better get James May to promote it
Man! This is epic! Now let's hope they will actually win something 😅
my delta 2 just woke up after a swap, what a good time to see the brand come back to life
yooo just as I was reading an article about this haha
Its cool that Lancia is back, but its kinda sad since Lancia coming back probably means Citroen will pull out, kinda like how Peugeot did after Citroen joined
also lets go wm p88 video gonna be a banger love that thing :)
I gotta say its a good looking little car, hope to see it in modern rally games
man i really hope the new delta is gonna have the same design features and soul as the old one
Yeeeeeeessssss! Hopefully they build an actual Fast Delta Integrale. I pray that they take inspiration from the GR Yaris/Corolla. They seem to be popular/profitable enthusiast cars.
2 (ish) Liter with 400+ HP where it can compete with an entry level 911 for less than half the price would be my dream Delta HF.
Most hot hatches are FWD econo-boxes that are modified into a hot hatch. What if you built the car from the ground up to be a hot hatch? Put the transverse engine/gearbox behind the front axle for weight distribution. Lean the engine/valve cover forward to harken back to the original (and to put enough room for intake next to the firewall). Offset the intercooler to the gearbox side to balance L/R weight. If its a hybrid push the batteries to the back.
Permanent AWD, if hybrid put electric power to the back to get rearward power distribution.
*_F O R Z A L A N C I A_* 😍🇮🇹🏁
Behold! They are coming back!!! Just like in WRC II Extreme
Really glad Lancia is back at rallying, even though I think the Ypsilon looks simply *_Awful_* with capitalized A, but just the front, in the rest, it looks decent
Future will tell if they can succed once more with the Ypsilon
I can't wait, and i certainly hope they bring Lancia back to America
Let's hope they're not so ridiculously rare here in the UK as well!
Since now a Stellantis satelite I would not be surprised if Lancia engineering department "borrowed" some of the now discontinued 208 T16 R5 solutions, trchnology and know-how, and used it as a development accelerator.
Or maybe they will go into Rally3 as a first step to modern all wheel drive rallying?
I have the ultimate soft spot for old Lancias, mainly due to the fact that I share a birthday with one of the biggest names in rallying as well, so hearing this and the return of the Gamma (odd choice... I have a feeling I may be missing somert there...) and the legendary Delta!? No, I'm not crying cuz I'm sad, don't be ridiculous!
WE ARE SO BACK
Great news, made my day better 😄
is the car you showed just a render or the actual car?
Both. The dynamic outside footage is a rendering, whilst the footage of the car being unveiled on the stage is the real car. Lancia's official youtube and website are the sources of both.
@@FailedRacersim italian, and this is fenomenal news
I really hope manufacturers find the new Rally1 ruleset interesting. I don't really doubt Lancia is heading for Rally2 (and possibly also Rally3) later on, but we'll see about Rally1. If the ruleset is interesting for Stellantis, I'm sure we'll see either Lancia, or Peugeot or Citroen at the very top of WRC. They also own Fiat and Opel, both iconic brands in rallying, though obviously not Lancia level iconic. Both brands are currently producing rally cars, with Opel producing the Rally4 Corsa and Fiat producing the 124 Abarth RGT (in what sadly seems to be a somewhat dead class).
Starting in rally 4 is probably best since they haven’t been in rally in a while and probably want a less risky gamble than a rally1 gamble
Good thing: Lancia returns to rally
Bad thing: Lancia returns to rally with rebadged Peugeot 208
I would sell my soul for Lancias to be available in the US
Mandatory F.I.A.:
Teams cannot be sponsored by alcohol or tobacco.....
Ferrari with malboro, and lancia with Martini:
Hey mario, these stronzos are telling us how to Paint our cars.....
Luigi, hold my spaghetti.....
The FIA didn't mandate the ban on tobacco and alcohol adverts doofus, it's EU law
Alcohol brands can sponsor but their products need to be 0.0 alcohol, see Heineken in F1 but national law can block the sponsor like in Saudi Arabia and Peroni on Ferrari and Aston Martin vehicles
Nah they don't even need to be 0.0. Martini sponsored a car in the Bathurst 12 hour this year.
Belated april fools 😅
That's honestly what I thought at first. When I first saw the picture I disregarded it as just some fan rendering.
Let's see how they mudd their legacy and make a mess of everything.
Even in Italy they were considered dead. Making the same Ypsilon for 10000 years
Their reputation was already dead by the time the old Ypsilon came out. They need to think of themselves as basically a startup company because they'll have to rebuild from nothing.
@@FailedRacers Because Startup always end up great, right? 🤣 Not at all Vaporware, Promises and running away with the money and the S word I cannot write otherwise my comment gets flagged for it.
Good to hear about the change of schedule due to real life duties. Good luck with University 👍👍
@@FailedRacersone thing they have going for them is being owned by fiat-chrysler
Long live Lancia!
It's a Peugeot 208 right?
It is indeed, but from what I understand, with higher specs.
What song is playing in the background?
when they said return to rally we thought it would be rally1 at least rally2 not this
As an italian car guy, I'm hopeful they could start make great cars again instead of the shitty ones they currently make, even the new delta isn't exactly a neck-turner
Maybe they could return to be a luxury-rally brand as till the early 90s they made NIICE cars, not overpriced fiats that don't even have good interior to begin with, the famous delta HF was a product of high quality and higher price range compared to idk a golf gti of the times, it was like a M3 performance (or even better) hatchback with AWD and more than 200 horses (which by today standard it's like 350-400)
Let's hope they make a new Delta that comes back as a valid competitor to RS/M/AMG performance and we can finally see a good heir of the "Deltona"
The new delta hasn't been revealed yet
this is just dumb, lancia is not "coming back" they are just replacing the old peugeot and opel rally cars with the "new" ypsilon that has the exact same chasis as the 208 and the astra. this is just a re-brand of old cars again and peugeot so far has been doing average in rally4 so dont expect great results or getting into the max category any time soon, maybe they wont even get there.
Finally, someone else with critical thinking skills
It isn't Astra, it's Corsa. And 208
They probaby won't even reach rally 3. The car is literally a rebranded Peugeot. 😂
Lancia died a long time ago
Hyundai would grow larger if they released N Cereal
I'm kind of confused because all I see in the video is a Peugeot 208 Rally4
Where does the 1.2litre engine come from? Is it a spec engine, or something from another manufacturer? I can't find any details, and they don't offer it on the road car version, so I'm assuming they didn't build it. (Definitely not asking for when a dead electric Lancia HF ever crosses my path)
It's the engine from the Peugeot 208
@@FailedRacers That makes sense, seeing as that car is electric or petrol.
Essentially a fancy rebadge then!
VW made the Fabia R5 alongside the Polo WRC. It was as dominant as the Polo but Skoda never came back to top class Rally.
And this big merge FIAT is inside is less likely than Volkswagen to nurture internal competition.
I don't think we'll see Lancia back in Rally1.
So VAG must return to WRC with what? Cupra? Audi? VW?
@@mateuszzimon8216 never said it should.
Used VAG as an example of what automotive groups with too much brands do.
I wouldn't say VW did Fabia R5, they were too occupied with Polo R WRC development. They had a great involvement in Fabia S2000 but a limited one with the R5. Mlada Boleslav was the one mostly responsible for the R5 and next Rally2 Škodas.
It was the Polo GTI R5 that benefited from Fabia being developed inside the VAG as some ideas and solutions were "inspired" by Škoda achievements.
Subaru is returning. (Don't give me hope when these is lil left for Subaru)
I want to see a rally2 driven by gigi galli...
Watch them flop
Hopefully not 😆
That thing looks rotund
Gimme that sweet sweet hopium
modern delta intergerallie pweety pweeeese
I hope so
I hope Lancia can go back to the formidable rally titan it was, this Ypsilon gives me hope but i still think is ugly as $#!T
bleh, this is just a reskinned 208/Corsa, which also exist in Rally4 guise... what's the point of having so many mechanically identical cars, like who cares
That's true, but this is just the beginning according to Lancia.
Max rally2 with "new delta" based on c3....
Maybe they get some luck like VAG with Skoda's and VWs
I still don't like this car.
Lancia will fail