The Failure Of The Fine Brothers
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2022
- The Fine Bros were once UA-cam's biggest react channel... well prior to the year 2020 when Benny Fine would be exposed for his questionable past. The REACT channel's viewership has since fallen from approximately 150 million views per month to only 10 million per month, representing a decline of over 90%. It became so bad for the Fine Brothers, that they had to sell their channel to Electric Monster Media in late 2021, concluding the downfall of The Fine Bros AKA React.
This is, Why The Fine Bro’s React Failed (-92% in 3 years)
Thank you guys for watching, like and sub if you enjoyed, SunnyV2 XO ❤
The idea for this video was partially inspired by "Bills" who posted a video on a similar topic in June 2022 titled "The Complete Downfall Of The Fine Bros AKA React!" You can watch his version here - • The Complete Downfall ... - Розваги
Never forget their apology.
"we are sorry that you're too stupid to understand our plan" is basically what they said.
@@eightcoins4401 yeah ik. These scammers are seriously getting crazy rn.
More like "We're sorry you're too stupid to not draw the logical conclusion from our statements. It is not our fault that the statements were ambiguously phrased and poorly communicated what we were trying to convey, you should have read them harder."
@@trianglemoebius Its fucking insane, the whole React Copyright Arc is literally them being cartoon villains
@@moz6388
Ask your telecoms provider to region-block India, Russia and Algeria for your number. That's where 99,99% of scams come from. You won't have to think about it if they can't touch you even if you make a mistake.
Or rather "we're sorry you were able to see through our plan to steal people's money."
Everything could’ve been avoided if they didn’t try to copyright reacting on UA-cam.
Greedy Companies be Greedy
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It's like someone trying to claim ownership over the color blue.
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It’s finally here
Fine Bros apology be like:
"We're sorry for trying to take over small reacting channels. And we would've gotten away if it weren't for those meddling kids and folks."
Would've been awesome if some channel had an "elders /kids/ teenagers react to Fine Bros apology"
@@Aaron-kj8dv there's always MrBeast.
Scooby dooby doo...
@@Handlerhandle Velma show hurts my feelings
They’re like actual villains
I've never seen such a 'brand' absolutely ruin not only their reputation but also destroyed their own community so thoroughly just for greed so fast
@@frankbrowder8978 I haven't really seen it yet. But I'd imagine it's at least better in some ways
Even after their fruckuppery, the two greedy pieces of sheet are still doing well, still churning out content.
Glad they got a taste of the view from the ground!
Was'nt greed though since their channel recovered quickly after the BS "controversy". Its just that the react genre became saturated, their videos become increasingly corporatized, and long term success on youtube is basically impossible.
Buzzfeed did it …
Maybe they made enough money to not have to worry about UA-cam?
“They would never let us speak our minds on a show about speaking our minds” I think that says it all right there.
@dash What's finally here? Your father?
@@carcr4sh3njoyer55 You have a generous mind that they may even have a father.
Ayo that was Shotgun Willy
The fine bros are Jewish and from California what did you expect.
@@carcr4sh3njoyer55 I'm stealing this comment.
This is such a weird story. That channel had everything it needed to keep growing from an already comfortable position. Instead, they kept making something stupid every week until there was nothing of their brand left.
@Raytheslay "respectfully"
@Raytheslay how?
@Raytheslay 🙄
Love your channel name 😂😂😂🙌🏻
@@LocalHomo thanks, dude. Life's a bitch.
Glad to be apart of the whistle blowing. Love your channel btw, been binging everything since I found this video!
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Apart is the opposite of what you tried to say there
I saw your vid when you first posted it and it honestly just confirmed my suspicions. I remember feeling old seeing how much older the kids had gotten lmao
I just watched that shorts of yours & then ended up on this channel
That clip where you found those guys was crazy. I was rolling when they said she became a crackhead
Ironically, it was their trying to copyright the react genre that spawned many of the now popular channels. Lot's of people went like: "Oh, you want to do what? Now I will on purpose make more react videos".
Just because you're one of the best at something, doesn't mean you invented it.
Let's be Honest We knew it
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That’s true. They’re just straight up as*****s.
True
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Even if they didn’t try to copyright reacting, their terrible treatment of the kids and their staff would’ve caught up to them anyway.
yeah im sure since a chunk of those girls are enjoying the money made from onlyfans, im sure they will be fine
@@geddoe316 they have a WHAT now
@@geddoe316 Don't post while horny.
it won't be as bad as the copyright incident. Since there's still lots of people watching them
@@geddoe316 what does what the kids are doing now matter? They still were treated like shit
I unsubscribed when they tried to copyright reaction videos and refused to see any of their content ever again (promise I have kept). Hearing that they lost everything feels so good, like such sweet karma.
I must confess thatv I only watch elden content.
I hope they eventually disappear and go into oblivion.
same. I saw their apology video, and that's when I knew they were ass holes.
I still remember the HeyItsMilly series very fondly though.
It honestly was, Jack, I do left FBE without any awareness about this incident a year ago. Glad that SunnyV2 reported about this.
I'm glad you brought up Lia at the end. 100% feel like she has a story similar to girls like Jennette McCurdy. We really need laws to keep kids out of show business.
I would say McCurdy was way worse. Her mother was utterly manipulative and control and she worked with Mr. Feet. Lia, unless I am missing some details, just got famous and couldn't handle it.
@@chazbertino6102no Lia was sexually groomed and then offered illegal substances.
@@idkhelp1838 WTF is wrong with the world?
Considering how ALOT of the kids who were in the original React Shows talk mad shit about how awful their experiences were I think even if they avoided the copyright backlash the kids now grown up would have been their inevitable downfall
What did they do to the kids? Lol in theory all they had to do was be nice, and show them a video. Should only takes like 15 minutes.
Lol just like this guy ua-cam.com/video/p42ZvRcMtog/v-deo.html
Wait they do? I used to watch them in middle school and high school and always kinda wondered what the OGs were dong now
@@MrFredstt Many of them have their own channels and active SM accounts if you wanna look them up, but yea. A lot of them, especially from the mid 2010s era, talk a lot of shit about their experiences on the React channel. Most of the good memories they share are just making friends with other reactors.
Yes. It's one of the most beautiful things ever for a kid who was taken advantage of at an early age grow up and say "fk those guys, they were awful", and bring the downfall of two tyrants.
they completely trashed their audience relations and then told us we are wrong when they got called out lol it was insane with the ironic cherry on top being they called out others for stealing content which they stole. Man 2016 was a wild time
I love you
Hey I watched your videos.
Wsp
Wasn't expecting Roanoke
Wow. I never expected you here, Roanoke. Please keep up your awesome work! 👍🏽👍🏽
One of the best comments I've ever seen was on a React channel video. "Hey guys, congrats on 12 million subs! Been subscribed since 15 million!"
My heart goes out heavily to Lia and how they exploited her and her popularity.
Ang important ngayon kahit nasira buhay ko, tatapusin nyo na lahat ito at magcooperate ako...tapusin na mga anomalya nila lahat
Your heart goes out to her for what?, she was paid to just react to something and they didn't exploit her, they just told her what to say like the rest of them, she became a crack head on her own, stop the bs talk
@@Mdksupreme1 what happened to her exactly? Haven't heard that name since I was in HS myself. Interested to know more about the spiral.
@@TheSmokeinya last I heard ( which is 2 years ago) she was addicted to drugs, depressed and other stuff, maybe shes doing better now.
Its sad. She has so much potential. Such a good looking kid.
It's amazing how one bad move can lead to a sorry series of declines.
Tbh with them, it wasn't just one bad move. It was a series of choices that made their channel toxic.
They tried to copyright reacting to things... that is a pretty major bad move. Greedy fucks got what they deserve
That was a lot more than one bad move. It was a string of bad moves with failed attempts to rectify them.
Nah, it's just a spark to an accumulated powder keg of nonsense. Like that Artesian Builds guy, he was doing way shady stuff before the Twitch rewoll.
The Fine Bros did the damage to themselves.
The Fine Bros were the kids all along. Honestly, many of the children of their early react video's have grown up to become more sensible adults than these brothers.
And honestly ironically the kids were the Fine Bros. Without the kids reaction, and persay they were the reactors- there would've been little success compared to what they got- just like any other react channel. Their greed and pride was soooo strong, it lead to their down fall... While UA-camrs like PewDiePie despite their fame, acted modest and became beloved . No famous person should feel safe treating others like shit while the internet exists
@@animelovbee101 Same happen to Charlie / Critikal / Penguinz0. That guy has been in UA-cam for 10 years but he's still humble and still has dry personalities. He's never doing something stupid on his life and he is still relevant until these days. The only thing that he obsessed is Yu-Gi-Oh cards
@@margarethmichelina5146 too bad he makes the most boring videos in existence
@@superprobablyuser don’t forget his fans spamming the exact same 3 jokes over and over again in the comments
@@margarethmichelina5146 But he's boring as hell, his content is the last thing I would want to watch after a day of hard work.
I was one of the 500,000 people that unsubscribed the week they announced react world. had no idea they were still even going in 2020.
The one guy rolling his eyes throughout their apology was ridiculous
This was easily the biggest case of pretentious entitlement and greed I've ever seen from UA-camrs. How full of yourself do you have to be to think you just get to decide one day, that you own an entire genre of content ever made by anyone? They really thought that they could make themselves arbiters of all reaction content ever, with even huge TV networks bowing to them. I can't even begin to imagine the mindset you have to be in to be this deluded.
I don't think they ever believed that they actually owned the react genre. They just wanted the money they could get out of it.
Exactly what i was thinking. AMEN! XD
I disagree with one small detail in your comment- I don't think they woke up one day to come up with this, they probably were this way all throughout their lives (behind the scenes), and finally surfaced with the announcements. They probably strategically planned (at least a few) videos prior to making the first React World videos. I mean, they tried to create a whole system after all.
@@kalui96 I think it's most likely that once they became famous, the fame went over their heads, or Into their heads or something
Narcissists in a nutshell? Self-important and all that.
You can totally tell in their "apology" that they were only mad because their little scheme to copyright reaction videos didn't work. I find it ridiculous that they were trying to act like we didn't just hear them say what we all know they just said!
"We emplore everyone not to support these companies and channels" Then backpedaling by saying "We only meant our specific series, not the overall genre of reaction videos" as if they didnt just threaten thousands of other reaction channels
Exactly, they made it just confusing enough that they could defend that they were not talking about their brand and format, while also threatening every channel that touched the react genre. It's almost like they knew what they were doing was wrong and illogical and prepared a safe excuse in case they needed to bail on this project
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The Fine Bros were not remorseful about their plot to monopolize the react genera, they were angry about their fans using logical thinking skills to look at the bigger picture and ultimately foil their plan by doing so. They felt confident the audience was not smart enough to catch on, but thankfully they did.
Funny thing is there is still a pretty big “react” genre on UA-cam but people being themselves and responding to full length films and TV shows, not one-off viral novelties that aren’t as uniting anymore. That’s a lot more fun and personable than anything the FineBros ever did.
EDIT: one small note-Lia Marie Johnson notably shared her story a couple of months ago, she explained that when she first moved to LA, that for years she was drinking, doing drugs and partying almost every night. She moved to LA at 17. She’s been in jail cells, on the streets, in psych wards and in rehabs. She’s now 26, sober and living happily in a quaint little town in England with her boyfriend. I couldn’t help but think where the hell the adults in her life such as the Fine Bros were when all of this was happening. They really had such little interest in the lives of the young people in their videos? And that’s with Lia being almost the face of their channel. I hope Lia stays sober, happy and well. And like that dude said, fuck the Fine Bros.
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Lia's great looks were her curse. Some old dude at FBE groomed her and eventually had a sexual relationship with her, then got her hooked on drugs and all kinds of awful stuff.
And the Fine Bros saw it happen. And never got rid of the guy or tried to protect her. Maybe they were waiting their turn.
Yeah, the old music producer who allegedly has groomed lots of young girls. There is a real disturbing accidental live stream of her sounding absolutely wrecked in a music studio and him trying to get her to sleep with him, it is sickening.
You see how many times she was featured in those react vids?
The Fines definitely wanted her, it's disgusting.
@@anaparioNo, featuring her doesn't mean they "wanted her," you just have to notice that she's pretty and draws numbers.
@@hieverybody4246 If there was a serious history of racism and sexism in the workplace, you can damn well assume they "enjoyed their time" around these kids.
Don't go on defending the fucking Fine Bros 6 months later.
@@anaparioWTF are you talking about, "racism and sexism?" That's the kind of nonsense woke types throw around so they can cancel people and get attention and money.
"you can damn well assume they 'enjoyed their time' around these kids."
No, we don't assume that. There's still a little thing called due process. One of the producers took advantage of her, while she was still underage, that's pretty clear. But there's no evidence the Fine Bros. had anything to do with that. Do you have any, or are you assuming that, too?
"Don't go on defending the fucking Fine Bros 6 months later."
Been a lot more than 6 months, right? Anyway, don't tell me not to defend someone against what appear to be baseless charges. Show proof the Fine Bros. were doing anything more than looking the other way, and I'll condemn them strongly.
Every Sunny video is like a work of historical importance
Really? Despite him purposely misgendering someone in a video a while back and thinking people shouldn’t use their platform to advocate for social justice? Expected better from you.
Your videos are too lol
@@opscomm1009 misgendering? That was clearly a woman
@@opscomm1009 No father?
Hi Wendigoon.
They literally tried to own something that EVERYONE does everyday. They could have let everyone in on the react genre, but they tried to own it, even took on people who made content on it. People play video games yet no one is trying to own the genre of video games.
Not yet anyway but SOON TM
@Nordin
Silence, rightoid.
TheChosenBros love exclusivity that benefits them. Cue the klezmer music.
@Nordin you can tell by the way they are
@Nordin makes sense
This whole story is so hilarious, they couldn't simply make content and live a comfortable life, they decided to start a crusade against everything and everyone, they deserve every single thing that happened to their brand and names.
So strange seeing Ethan be cast in an even semi-decent light in this day and age... That man deserves his own video on this channel.
I often forget that he actually used to be likeable
To be honest the fine bros sounds awful. They literally tried to make their fans attack and abuse an entire person just because they used a concept they “owned”
On the other hand, it is Ellen we're talking about.
Ellen is worse then these guys lmao, though they were attacking her for a petty reason there was a far better cause to rally behind which eventually happened.
But thats the thing they weren't even the first channel to have react videos on the internet and yet they copyright striked and got another react channel removed from youtube that was there before them.
@@mischiviousteefmonster3900
Unless we're talking Vladimir Putin levels of evil, that's a pretty weak excuse for what is still a criminal offense by the Finebros as well as real scumbag behaviour.
And since you're talking about Ellen Degeneres, I'm going to skip a step and assume you're just some insane crackpot conservative who heils Putin-Trump five times a day and thinks all liberals are evil, and the ones like Degeneres who are on television are the most evil of them all and work directly for the global Jewish conspiracy that you conservatives *somehow* still believe in even today. (thought we crushed that nonsense in 1945. Guess we missed a few in the hangings)
They are Jooooooo-ish, what do you expect?
This is such an amazing self destruction.
They managed to grow really big, they had a loyal fanbase and they made the kind of content that even the modern youtube algorithm would support but they decided to go full idiot.
It's because they got greedy.
Its because they got greedy & scarred once they saw other people beginning their own reaction channels but they actually react & don't just sit their with a blank face & just say at the end "Yep video was good" with a unenthusiastic tone.
Also, both of them are Jewish. Now, you know why.
Here you have guys that look like former GameStop employees. Add a dash of Asperger’s, a know it all demeanor with that silicon valley holier than thou type of narcissism, and you get these two.
Two guys that may or may not have lost their virginity, get drunk on power, and get revenge on a world that has ignored them and push them aside for far too long.
They say money doesn’t change you it just magnifies your negative or positive traits. It’s clear these guys were dicks from the get go. I bet they are friends with the Artisian Builds guys.
It really seems like something i would do fr
I didn’t even realize there was more to the drama, I only remember the react trademark controversy. How the mighty have fallen.
I remember watching the Kids/Teens react videos. They were fun for a while but you really start to notice the cringe. I get that these are kids or young teens, but they acted like they had never seen a computer or an old game console. The videos are always framed in a way that make it look like the kids had no idea what this ancient machine was or how it would work.. Then the whole "react trademark" thing happened. They most definitely were trying to trademark reaction videos as an entire genre, then quickly back peddled to say "no no, just our very specific format". Its just one of those situations where you sit back and think "why did they ever think that would work?," Like there wouldn't be a tsunami of backlash.
I bet you the "Game Boy Girl" line was scripted honestly.
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We may live in a society, but Sunny’s video is a piece of art
my content is beter
@@mariorios_athletichorse Ratio
How are ya mate. Love ya vids
There’s a universe where we have to pay The Fine Bros. a fine every time we use the word react
I forgot they tried to Copyright the Word react 🤦♂️
Let's be Honest We knew it
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@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 lmfao
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That’s not how copyrighting works
2:00 man thanks for pointing out the Seniors React thing, I remember a google document way back when about how quietly it was removed but don't know where it is now. It made people suspect strong-arming them with legal nonsense was involved, it sucks. It was a good genuine series and you can't even find backups now :/ searching for it just brings up Elders React
I always hated the "content" that these two goobers put out. Remembering what they tried to do in 2016 is all the more sickening; I hope that they spent their retirement days well because things like this are never forgotten once they go online.
Fine Bros is just a classic tale of “stay in your lane”.
Lol you here
Spotted in the wild, love your videos.
Keep up the amazing work, Vars.
They thought they owned the highway
@Vaccinated Kid ua-cam.com/video/2iImgKC5iwM/v-deo.html
Finally it's here .
You'd think for a guy who's eyes look in two different directions that he'd have enough foresight to see how dumb their decisions were
damn lmao
Dayum bro. 💀💀💀
*EMOTIONAL DAMAGE*
ouch
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Man, seeing Ethan Klein before he became a terrible human being was a trip... It brings me back to a better time on UA-cam for sure.
When was Ethan Klein not a terrible human being? 🤨
@@dmhendricks I suppose it would boil down to whether you think the H3 Podcast made him who he is now or if it just brought out what was always there. Prior to the Podcast completely taking off, it just seemed like he was a good person and model content-creator for the platform.
It is a personal opinion, but I think the Podcast changed him. Maybe hot take, but I don't believe Ethan is happy at all with the Podcast or, seemingly, his life, not sure if it's the constant drama the podcast seems to bring, his need to be "on" so much, or if he just isn't having fun anymore. Just feels like it turned him into a lazy, hateful, ignorant, and surprisingly humorless person. That last one still kinda shocks me, but by the time the stuff with Keemstar came around, it just seemed like the Podcast was completely devoid of humor and instead built around internet gossip and rumor.
BUT who knows, maybe that was always there and he just had an amazing editor or something.
@@dmhendricks When he first started out, he had orginal content (Vape nashion!) Was pretty humble and relatable, but over time slowly became what he is today.
Really? Cus these replies, sounds like you spend more time thinking about his content than he does
wtf
If a company has to constantly make multiple “apology” videos then something is clearly wrong
these guys are the type of people to steal your joke and make the whole class laugh without giving you any credit
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Except the whole class notices and ends up disliking them
But then when you make the same joke to a different group, they get mad because “it was their joke”
@@mariorios_athletichorse ?
I wish I was high on potenous
Their confidence in believing that they can own an entire genre is the confidence I need to lead with in my life
😂 for real
However it's important to remember that you're, like, mortal. I worked at a company who's CEO was sure he'll open next Amazon, but it flopped quite hard, dragging him down with it. Last I've heard, he was trying to make a niche shop - online shop of elite brands of small children clothes (like, pre-teens, but expensive AF) and then I checked last year what he's up to and apparently he's bankrupt and in a boatload of debt.
Which is a weird shame. The shop wasn't that bad. It was, actually, pretty good. I'm not exactly sure why it was that plagued with issues, honestly. I feel like they should have franchised and seeked more aggressive investing options or something. But then again, that's not the point, the point is that same as these guys, that's some balls, but the bigger the balls, the easier it is to get punched in them by the universe, it seems.
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@@TheWinjin Businesses are fucking hard, man. Always feel bad seeing people who tried so hard only to fail
You really don't need that. It'll turn you into a grind culture clout rapper.
I wonder if they ever sit back and think how stupid their idea was
The idea they were so outraged over people “using” them and their “IP” while they are reacting to other peoples copyrighted content is just 🤯 😂
The problem never was that entertainers can’t talk about social issues - ofcourse they can. It’s just hypocritical to talk about social issues the company clearly doesn’t give a shit about.
I think the problem comes from a source of ironic honesty. They recognize that damn near everyone else making a politically motivated statement on their channel was just shilling for support, and they assumed everyone knew that's what was going on. They just forgot to make it convincing lmao
yeah i feel the same way. If you talk about a cause it has to have some kind of backing (charity, personal experience, its a movement you care about ect). Companies that make empty statements about a cause are things i just tend to ignore, but it feels bad when that company or group is actively doing things that go against the thing they just promoted. Like, obviously there's a huge chance they did it for clout in the first place but having hard proof that they don't care sucks. That's when people start to point things out and get really upset.
It’s just not a good idea unless you’ve got an impeccable and squeaky clean background. Fair enough if you want to say “fuck racism” but don’t act like an activist lol it’s not your job it’s really weird when channels and people do that.
all companies in a nutshell
So the thing is any time a company or spokesmen for a company speak on social issues it's ALWAYS B.S. They don't give 2 shits, they just want the benefits of saying what they think people want to hear. Money is all they are concerned with, don't think for a second any company that is for-profit actually cares about anything else.
The worst part about this story, was that had they kept their mouths shut and went through with React World, using it to slowly take out the competition, they generally could have monopolized reaction videos on UA-cam and TikTok. They just had to go ahead and be obvious with their intent, and so began the downfall of an attempted tyrant.
I think the whole blackface thing and mistreating their staff would have caught up to them anyway
@@josephwoo69 blackface doesn’t catch up to people. Look at Trudeau, Kimmel, and even H3
Eh, even if they hadn’t said anything, it would’ve caught with them eventually. Big UA-cam names would have definitely noticed something off and would’ve alerted their viewers about the situation sooner or later. You can’t just copyright something as broad as “reacting” and not have people pinpoint your shit and throw it back in your face. That’s probably WHY they went public with it initially, cause they thought keeping it a secret would’ve been worse. It was a lose-lose situation regardless.
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Finally it's here .
it is a good thing
I watch this channel from time to time and it’s great stuff but this particular video was stellar. You highlighted concrete observations and built some profound points. I think anyone hoping to be a content creator should take the time to review your channel. So many cautionary tales and I wish a lot of these creators would’ve kept to their roots and continued doing what they originally set out to do. You said it best, “Why can’t you just be a good entertainer and leave it at that?” The majority of viewers just want entertainment. 10 out of 10 stuff right here.
I definitely think making an apology video while being obviously angry and hostile is much worse than faking yourself crying on an apology video.
I think its impressive that the channel came off as soulless almost right away. Everything felts artificial and fake whenever I saw any of their videos. I was never really a fan of the content and when they showed how they really were I was not surprised in the least.
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Honestly Their earlier videos were entertaining to my little kid brain, but right know it’s so obvious that it’s scripted and fake that it’s not even watchable
@@mariorios_athletichorse I hope your parents finically give you at least a little attention
Look at all these bots man, why do I even bother checking reply sections anymore...
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 the kids actually spoke about it. They are in their late teens now they said a lot of things are edited off to fit what they want to show or to present.
Honestly I'm kind of shocked to learn they even made it to 2020. The whole "React World" thing was such a shit show I thought it ended their careers then and there.
For whatever reason, the uploader just focused on the 2016 and 2020 drama but avoided 4 years of content because it doesn't fit his "Failure narrative.
@@bobbyboy1797 "content"
@@Ignigknawt Put quotations around it all you want. They got 100 Million views in a month during 2020.
Watching this all play out in real time was insane. They were just so obvious in their greed and were mad that people weren't putting up with it.
Damn, I didn't realise it's been 6 years since the React World drama. I haven't heard anything about them since then, but I'm not surprised they managed to mess it up again and again. Glad they're not involved in the company anymore, shame it took this long for them to do so.
I watched them all three years of middle school and didn’t even know this was going on until like 2020. So sad to see them like this but they kinda deserved their downfall
I feel you the exact way too, 100%. I used to watch them after school everyday.
So many YT channels should have minded their own, and stayed away from Virtue-Signaling in Social and Political matters.
Both of them are too greedy and too arrogance. Also, one of the brothers, Benny used to have a Blackface video and they even made another UA-cam Channel before React called HeyIt'sMilly which is about a puppet named Milly who talked about sex, rape and drugs and Shane Dawson was involved on that
100%! I always have this saying in my head, "If you're thinking you're first, it's been done many times before." (in some way)
@Vaccinated Kid ua-cam.com/video/2iImgKC5iwM/v-deo.html
Finally it's here .
@@Jaronite It's because these groups and their followers would basically harass popular social media channels and demand their endorsement. Not doing anything made you a bigot. "Silence is violence"
You know what stings the most for them? If they hadn't been so brainless to try and pull this crap, their channel would have absolutely thrived on the format of Tiktok.
FBE genuinely could've gotten away with having a monopoly on reaction videos had they not made that goal so obvious.
This drama is one of the most unforgettable in my opinion. Because I was there when they uploaded about the copyright react thing. I remember about wondering what are they trying to say, only to see few days later people backslashed them. I also sadden a bit, since I also was there during their first viral video and always looking forward for their react video. If only they weren't too greed.
Dang, I remember when The Fine Bros were trying to go after smaller youtubers too for doing react videos. What I am glad to see is that some of those small youtubers or the ones starting out doing their own react videos have done really well on their own currently.
The moment that they tried to copyright an entire genre on UA-cam that is reaction videos should've been a massive clue that TFB were about to head towards a massive downward spiral.
Whey they pulled this crap I lost all respect for them and there not the only one to do this there was a MInecraft Player that tried to copy right 100 days and I also lost respect for him when he tried that.
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@dash spam bot moment
It's easy to see in retrospect, but at the time we were in unchartered waters. Didn't know how it was gonna play out cause nobody ever tried copyrighting a UA-cam genre.
It’s crazy how primitive this era of UA-cam feels in retrospect and it has only been about 6-7 years, back when I just graduated from college. The UA-cam drama era from 2015-2018 was something else. It was intense. It really shaped how entertainment is currently consumed on UA-cam and other social media platforms.
The primitiveness points reminds me of YTPs, other things too but YTP is the first thing to come to mind,back then we were easily amused by very basic effects and complete non sequiturs, likewise talking fruits, reactions and pranks feel as dated as 70s dressing code.
@dash this comment is honestly the perfect example to all you both have said wow I love youtube now!!! *cries*
@Lorenzetti very sad I felt that ): it started dying right? Not entirely but old youtube where people uploaded for entertainment n u had to be creative asf or very funny. Now everyone copies each other most of the time and since it's spread out so far it's not caught cuz different people watch different stuff. Also the whole stolen comment deal I'm done with it wow it's crazy how many people don't understand yeah we all can think alike and that dude commented that same comment 10 min after me but didn't see my comment he just has a similar though process. But no it's automatic copy. Granted I'm sure they do copy but it's not every comment. I've had it happen to me many times I just tell em sorry I thought the exact same thing another human being though across the world.
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@@Mordecrox Most YTPs are currently funnier than tiktoks though.
Imagine a series called, "People React to Seeing the Fine Bros For the First Time". Everyone would be terrified, shocked, shuddering, shaking. Some would be crying and others would run out of the room.
Or "Try to Watch Challenge: How Long Can You Look at a Video of the Fine Bros ?" The longest record would be 5 seconds.
Shout out Shotgun Willy for building up a fan base for his music after leaving React. Didn’t even realize he was on React until after I was a fan of his for a few months.
"We weren't trying to control other people's content, we were just trying to squash the competition with illegal copyright claims. How else will we afford our pioneering eyeball repositioning surgeries?"
🔥 Damn XD
The Fine Bros are a lesson in knowing when to leave well enough alone.
Finding out they had forced reactions killed it for me
daym
wow when he said they werent able to say what they wanted and they were pushed to say something else completly is mind boggling cause now thinking back their response was robotic.
It’s pretty eye opening how a channel that you used to watch when you were younger gets exposed and have their true colors revealed like this. Such a shame they got too in over their heads and acted despicably, only to destroy the empire they built up.
Bro I have seen u everywhere
I was originally done with them in 2016, but I bet I would have gone through a Nostalgia rewatch of the old videos in a year or two. now that I know about what happened in 2020, I won't even rewatch then either. I'll just never come back
I've watched quite a few SunnyV2 videos by now, this one here is actually the first one from a channel I knew before. I kind of stopped watching them somewhere in mid- to late 2020, even without knowing of the controversies. I also watched some of the reactors on their private networks (Tom, Eric, Tori) and also kind of stopped watching them around the same time. They seem to have moved on from youtube, I just checked and Tom hasn't posted anything except for some short for quite some time and Tori and Eric seemingly broke up and stopped uploading around 7 months or so ago. I tried watching one of their last videos and I'm actually not all that interested anymore.
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I stopped watching at the time of the React World controversy and never heard anything about the channels again until now
This duo is the perfect example of everything wrong with UA-cam. Let’s not forget, by the way, that UA-cam went right along with their bullshit and supported every improper action they took.
Not only did UA-cam go along with this, they actively supported, helped and promoted the Fine Bros, just as they do with all large UA-cam channels. There's probably all kinds of shadiness going on, right now, and stories of shadiness before. With UA-cam executives directly involved. I certainly would not be surprised.
Yup! UA-cam lets people like Sniper Wolf get away with a lot of stuff other UA-camrs would get banned for.
i remember when the "we trademarked the word 'react', and we now own the reaction genre/ format" debacle went down.
Perfect video, they've desperately tried to be more important and significant than they actually ever could which ultimately lead to their demise and rightly so.
It's sad that when you look back at their early clips of Kids react and they transferred into Teens react and you think like "oh cool, they kept some of their 'reactors'. " and then later find out they ended up kinda miserable because of their experience with FBE/REACT. But I mostly felt bad for Lia but from some research, she looks happy, has boyfriend (or fiance ) today.
The boyfriend actually passed about a year ago I believe. She was hit hard, it was horrible to watch.
@@cooldude2251 wow, it must be horrible to live your life under public scrutiny.
@@cooldude2251 all info i found was some subreddit about Lia since I don't use IG so I really didn't know if the info there was 100 % correct or not
@@cooldude2251 she had 2 boyfriends one guy name Jc and he is alive so I guess it was the second guy Ryan bowler that passed away
@Femonic the Hot Your videos are awful.
I love the absolute delusion on Ellen, “Ellen showed a kid something and the kid reacted to it, this is copyright infringement”
Man you really did him dirty putting his lazy eye so prevalent in the thumbnail pic lmaaaooo
I stopped watching fbe since 2020 when all of my favourite reactors left the show. That made me so sad because I've been watching this show since I was freshman in high school 2013. I feel like I grew up with these reactors, they're like my friends who have never met.This show accompanied me from high school to college graduation It's a shame to see them fall apart like this.💔😢😢
I was expecting this to also cover the somewhat hidden controversy of the "Milly" puppet character that the Fine Bros and Shane Dawson collabed on. It's dark humor (sexualizing a fake "underage" puppet) didn't speak well to men who used children and teens in their React videos.
It wasn’t even sexualizing, it was straight up brutalizing the character lmao 🤣 I remember being a kid and watching hey it’s millie and remembering the SA jokes 😭
Don't forget the time Benny did a Black Face
Couldn't imagine if they did manage to successfully trademark the word React.
Imagine getting a lawsuit and taken to court because you got an allergic *Reaction*
@Nordin You've been going under many comments posting the same response. Why is the fact that they're jewish relevant to the discussion?
Heh, nice one @Gavalant.
They weren't trademarking the word react in all uses. They were trademarking it specifically within the context of youtube videos and related contexts (so visual media, online etc), which is how trademarking works. You generally pick specific contexts where that word/phrase is used.
My favourite example being the nail brand Holo Taco by Simply Nailogical, since she explained how it worked. She has copyright over the phrase Holo Taco for cosmetics and apparel, and got in a legal kerfuffle with Taco Bell (I think) bc they had a limited release Holo Taco (details are fuzzy but I think the Taco shell had flecks of edible glitter). No actual copyright infringement happened because Taco Bell had the trademark in food/consumables but there was enough confusion caused that thier lawyers had to have a little chat. Both companies made a statement that the two weren't related & the edible Holo Taco finished it's limited run.
What the Fine Bros were trying to do would've been futile anyways because once a copyrighted term becomes part of the public vernacular you can no longer claim it as copyright eg. Zipper, cola, vasaline, sticky note, scrunchie
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@@yckfides5613 he's trolling, just ignore him he wants attention
I remember hitting "Not Interested" so many times to get these guys off my home page.
Your probably the most objective and informative commentary/analysis channels who always remains neutral and only subjective when appropriate. Keep doing thing my brother, God bless.
The fact they tried to trademark a word and made a terrible apology already gave us a sign that they weren't gonna make it far.
Let's be Honest We knew it
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@YeaMan your music sucks hard.
@Ezina Salsa💞💯 what you need is to get a REAL JOB. Oh wait, your an infectious bot.
What was the word
Let's be Honest We knew it
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Good. I was a fan of their show until they starting this whole controversy. Whenever I see their React logo or the words "the fine bros", I immediately feel disgusted and just ignore or remove from my recommended list (on all platforms). Thank goodness everyone REACTED to this whole thing. Cannot imagine a world where these "bros" control all reacts and even worse, making free money from other content creators.
Same, I feel so ashamed for falling for that schtick for as long as I did
Fascinating. They try to copyright a whole genre and then proceeded to lie and gaslight people about doing so in such an overly aggressive manner that it's actually disturbing and disgusting. The narcissism is real with these guys. Glad they're circling the drain now.
We apologize... "BUT"
Thats a sign of a non honest/sincere apology.
Never realised it went this deep. I thought the controversy extended to the whole "copyrighting reactions" bollocks and that was it.
Genuinley feel bad for the kids and teens that were part of those videos. The elders too.
I make funny edited videos check em out if yall don’t mind💯😂
damn we got the trifecta of bots
@@wooper4784 It's magical, like a double rainbow.
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Yup, also i kind forgot that Finebros exist btw..
I thought their channel gone or something.
I remember seeing the controversy back then and I always thought they could never manage to trademark the concept of a reaction video, it’s so general of an idea, it would be like trying to trademark tires, or trademarking newsreaders. These morons just really thought they owned a genre despite knowing they didn’t, and they seem ridiculously entitled. Good thing they failed miserably.
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I think it was Sony who tried to trade mark 'Let's Play' but it was rejected.
I think you'd be surprised what is a d has been trademarked. Like for example Bluetooth and all kinds of things you wouldn't think are. I looked up crazy trademarks or things trademarked that would surprise you, I can't remember exactly how I searched it, and I was surprised myself. Bluetooth is in everything to expensive earbuds to cheapy crap ones and they all gotta pay to use it and everything else under the sun.
@@RedDragon91 Bluetooth is a specific technology that somebody invented. It shouldn't be surprising to you that it is patented, copyrighted and trademarked. That it became popular has absolutely no bearing on that.
The biggest mistake the Fines ever made was NOT building a sitcom around Lia Marie Johnson. She was their Miley/iCarly and had massive potential at the time but they instead made their "dream project" and put Lia in the background. They had the potential to make another iCarly/Hannah Montana and absolutely blew it. Everything that followed was desperation after they dropped the ball at that critical moment.
I love seeing 1MTS in random videos ❤️ they deserve everything.
One of the purest examples of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain."
They were never heroes though.
@@mayborneflower 😂
@@mayborneflower They were mine. I enjoyed their videos back when they were Fine Bros.
@@zanwrightmfwr756 You have only my pity, dude.
Imagine having the level of entitlement, hypocrisy, greediness, and delusion like the Fine bros. They used other people's content while copyright striking other channels because they somehow believed they own the reaction genre. Mfs out here really thinking they own a certain type of content on the internet. Also had no idea of the BLM drama til today. Dang, they're really digging their own graves. No matter how you look at it, their failure was well deserved. They earned every right to be hated on. I wish nothing but the worst for the Fine bros.
Someone should make a video about Sunnyv2 and how Goated his content is 💯💪💙
Damn this is so sad. I used to binge these reaction videos.
"Since we made it popular, therefore we own it"
This would be like Pixar trying to trademark 3d animation because of the success movies like Toy Story and A bugs life.
Don't put it past them. Disney literally tried to copyright Loki, as in the original Norse God worshipped by Vikings during the Bronze Age, because they made Loki, the Marvel character as played by Tom Hiddlston, popular.
You literally cannot joke about media corporations doing outlandish things. They will take it as a challange.
The ironic thing is that the "content" that they make takes no effort and its basically just relies on using others content to make their videos, by default giving them no ground to stand on when they wanted to trademark reaction videos
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It’s finally here
the worst part of them is when the did the Seinfeld episode and totally missed the point of the episode they were watching
Wow, I used to watch their videos all the time and only recently wondered what happened to them now that I've seen it's the 'REACT' channel. Never realised all of this was happening, I'm shocked!
One relatively small factor that I think also contributed to this was that when COVID hit, they had the people react from home on their computers for a while (which was kinda weird but I guess they didn’t have too many options) And once they came back, everything felt different and a bit strange. Lighting was off, they would throw in random, dumb unnecessary edits to grab your attention, and since then the style has only changed more. To a lot of fans like me who watched them before, it almost doesn’t feel the same show anymore.
Tbh, I didn't even realize they were still going after the internet collectively laughed and boo'd them away for trying to trademark the word react™
@@HyenaBlank lol ikr😂
Also, most of the original "reactors" are quitting and the new "reactors" look like they're being forced to be there. The brothers are not there anymore. Even they change one of the channel to be "Try Not To Eat". What the fuck?
That apology is like being an abusive husband and then apologizing but finishing it of with saying - " You started it though".
@TheGlassesPro this
5:53 cooler heads always prevail. I had never heard that before but it's now one of my favourites.
The concept was basically the same as the show "Kids say the darndest things", Ive never heard of these guys or the channel but they are insane.
The vibe I got from them desperately trying to own a genre (even tough they claimed it wasn’t the case …but it clearly was) is that they were afraid of competition and the possibility of other channels with a potential, taking their place . When you’re very successful, a lot of people WILL try to copy you and replicate your success…or just try to do better than you. That’s inevitable. The fact that they’re SO MANY reaction channels now is the proof of that . All they needed to do was to find a way to remain unique and stand out just like any other businesses . Something that’s not easy to do ,I imagine , but that’s just the reality .I am not a specialist, but I just think that’s common sense . This is why I find the clips of them explaining their new “copyright policies “ and “apologizing” after that , cringe and painful to watch .
Competition breeds innovation, fine bros did not want to come up with new stuff, they just wanted to sit back and enjoy the money from easy content.
@@sylvanling3487 I disagree. Competition breeds copycats and theft. It becomes a spiral of “let’s make the same thing over and over but with one single tweak” ad nauseum. You see this with cars, restaurants chains, video games, cleaning products, clothing brands, art supplies, and especially things like water and sports drink brands: literally anything where you have “variety”. Oftentimes the “variety” is a smokescreen.
Ik you were probably typing this fast, or maybe English isn't your first language, but please take some time to get into the practice of using correct grammar. It really does go a long way to understanding what this is trying to say and being able to digest the information.
@@talynhastime9343 Competition does breed copycats, but it ALSO breeds innovation. That's literally how evolution works. And also how technological progress happens. From some copying also comes slight changes that might be more or less successful. Of course there are negative consequences of competition as well, especially when the competitors are trying to be as unfair and lazy as possible, but you absolutely need competition to have progress. It's with competition we even know what works and what doesn't in the first place. It ain't perfect, but it's what we've got to work with.
I mean, look at how even with all the copycat products we have, we're still getting improvements to those products we use everyday. Sometimes, I don't care about getting a cheaper knockoff of something, so I get to save money. Sometimes, I want the fancier sponge to clean stuff with, so I get the scrubdaddy.
@@ShadeSlayer1911 💯👌🏾. You couldn’t have said it better .
Damn I never knew it went this deep, I’d even heard that their trademarking scheme was just misunderstood and they were just intending to copyright usage of the their new REACT channel name, so people couldn’t have a similar name, but this seems a lot worse so far. I’m glad they got what they deserved and their channel collapsed.
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It’s finally here
Bruh the Channel literally Features the most Tik Tok Gen Z looking people ever, like it’s legit depressing how far they have fallen
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@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 they barely crack the mark of 400k views now with 20 million subs this is what we call a dead channel
@Nordin Jewish or not it doesn’t matter if they were making scummy business choices and being self entitled assholes. Their background doesn’t bother me.
Would like to hear more details on how exactly they controlled what the reactors would say
If you have a family friendly content involving elders and kids it's better to keep away from sensitive issues.