HAUNTING Disappearance of Indiana College Student | Lauren Spierer Case: Full Story & Updates
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HAUNTING Disappearance of Indiana College Student | Lauren Spierer Case: Full Story & Updates
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This case is sooo bizarre to me. What do you think the truth is?
❤ Annie please stop cutting your beautiful hair. Thank you Always Donna Barnes ❤
When I moved to Bloomington to for grad school, there were signs everywhere about Lauren and her disappearance. I walk by those buildings downtown frequently and see young people who are just like she was, ready for life after college.
Aliens.
Lived and hike around that area and it’s so sad. I wish for a conclusion for her family. I think it was a stranger abduction and that’s why it’s never been solved. Maybe the perp is in jail already for something else. Very scary!
Thanks for covering this, Annie. This is such a tragic & bizarre case. Someone knows something. My ❤ breaks for Lauren's family.
If any of the theories make sense, maybe the "Ohio River" theory might make sense. Was the Ohio River searched??
I'm definitely going to share this!
As a practicing lawyer I would strongly advise anyone questioned by the police to request your right to a lawyer. It’s a constitutional right for a reason.
Absolutely! If anyone changes their story, bam! They aren’t trustworthy and hiding something. We are far from being infallible people. It’s better to protect ourselves from being falsely accused.
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Especially as the police are allowed to trick and deceive you. It's too much of a gamble especially in countries like the US where the prison sentences are very long!
This. If I’m being accused of murder I am most DEFINITELY seeking legal advice and help! You best believe, esp if I’m innocent! I am not about to be caught up simply because I didn’t know what to do or say one way or another.
Exactly! There are so many cases of innocent ppl doing hard time from the 70s, 80s and even later that were exonerated by DNA. So sad, some did 18 or more yrs of their lives B4 they were found innocent.
No one should EVER talk to the cops without a lawyer.....EVER!!
Absolutely. Remember cops can lie, yet we go to jail and are charged if we do.
WOW. Just repeat yourself some more.
This right here!!!!! I’ve had my own personal stuff happen with cops in my life and besides 2 cops, in 44 years they have ALL fucked me or my husband lives. You NEED a lawyer!
If a person assumes someone is guilty for invoking their right to an attorney they are ignorant. Innocent people are convicted all the time for things they say to police without an attorney present thinking they are "helping" an investigation. "Anything you say CAN AND WILL be used AGAINST YOU", no matter what police claim!
I mean.... are you saying the majority of Americans are stupid?
@@JimBob-jr5upI definitely am saying that most Americans are stupid.
Yup. Never talk to cops never say shit to them. ACAB.
The investigating officers NEVER have your best interest in mind. They have a duty to solve a crime any way they can. It’s always important to talk to a lawyer before EVER saying anything to police. Even innocent people. At the very least, it will keep everything documented and communication with police safer.
@JimBob-jr5up Probably a Canadian so they would know all about being stupid.
It's not a red flag to lawyer up. It's not a red flag to stop talking to law enforcement. It's not a red flag to not take a police performed polygraph. You have the right to protect yourself - that doesn't mean you don't care.
Agreed!
When you start delving into the world of false and coerced confessions based on lies cops can make about imaginary evidence, you'll be the first one to lawyer up.
Agree - agree - agree
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*Thank You! Someone who GETS IT! I get so tired of dumb ass people saying stupid shit, about those who DO get a lawyer!*
*It's more than obvious they ARE SMART for getting a lawyer.. seeing the way detectives can force people to say shit that is NOT true! And it's such bull shit how cops can LIE like a damn rug, but if WE lie.. OH BOY HOWDY! We get in all sorts of trouble!*
Red flags don’t mean automatically guilty. It means a sign of guilt. A grieving and innocent boyfriend should want to cooperate with police and no amount of your opinion will change that. It’s important that those closest to her get ruled out immediately. That’s just how investigations go.
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If it were my son we would have also lawyered up. Not because of guilt, Unfortunately investigators can sometimes accuse the wrong people.
Very true!
Sadly it Happens A Lot
It’s always smart to lawyer up when you’re a part of an investigation (guilty or not)!!
We need to stop assuming guilt when someone gets a lawyer to protect their interest because you are right. Investigators can zero in on the easy suspect and can be wrong.
Agree, told my daughter always ask for lawyer then co-operate no matter what country you’re in.
I hate that people feel if you lawyer up then you must be guilty, it’s our RIGHT and not all cops play by the rules, ALWAYS lawyer up
I feel for the family
But There was no reason to file that lawsuit against the young men with her that night. Not enough evidence.
Male or female, college kids have got to be careful about alcohol and drug consumption. That’s not victim blaming, that’s responsibility and common sense.
You say that until it's on of your own that's missing and murdered 😢
Exactly and with a heart condition.. have to be responsible when it comes to drugs and alcohol.. its a big no no.
I would like to know why the four guys at Lauren’s apartment door were not looked into more. Maybe they followed Lauren. Jesse the boyfriend has no alibi that to me is very strange. Her not being seen on video after leaving the last apartment when he said what door he watched her leave from. How did the homeless man die?
Exactly! I completely agree.
I agree. Lauren was an adult, and she had a duty to care for herself - no one else was responsible for her. What happened to her is absolutely not deserved by any means but it isn’t the responsibility of others to monitor your alcohol consumption.
Women, young women especially, need to learn their alcohol limits for their own safety! We already have the odds stacked against us physically to defend ourselves, let alone inebriated.
Yeah. That's not victim blaming, that's common sense and we are putting girls and women at risk by NOT teaching them that.
Weird take tbh
@rainingopals1439 Only if you have absolutely no common sense. Nothing can 100% protect us, but a little common sense goes a long way. Which team are you on?
Even young men can get bullied into drinking more than they should: responding to taunts to 'man up'...
So I agree, that all young folks should learn their limits. Losing your possessions, and public vomiting, shouldn't be part of a good night out.
With that pov lets completely blame her for drinking underage, period. And being a "addict" and "sl*t" for hanging out with men all night. Ridiculous 🙄🙄🙄
when i hear stories like this and i think of all of my insanely intoxicated nights in my teens and 20s, i can’t help but feel grateful that i never found myself in more scary situations. it’s also terrifying now as a mother thinking of my children one day reaching the “part age”. it’s such a scary world we live in! i can’t imagine what families go through when a loved one disappeares 💔
I agree. I was the same way. Sometimes I wonder how I didn't end up dead. We think we are invincible when we are young though.
@@KimJerome13 and @melissahenderson6089
Me three!
I was pretty savvy and careful, had good friends watching out for each other but still I partied and could think back now of many nights I might have just disappeared.
OTOH you could get abducted walking home from the bus stop after work! Tough times, then and still.
btw, what is up with all the "human remains" found that WEREN'T Lauren? I know this is not uncommon if you follow true crime cases, but it still freaks me out how these other human remains are rarely addressed! When police are like "we found a skull."... "Sorry, not her!" But ummmmm who is THAT?!!!!!
Take care, everybody! 💕
Same here. Unfortunately a few very scary things did happen to me. Luckily I am still alive though.
I think the same .. I used to be a dancer and get so beyond drunk the bodyguards used to just throw me in a taxi .. I’m lucky I got the same taxi driver every time .. a nice old man
Hey! My last name is the same as yours! Scottish!
Lawyering up is not an admission of guilt. In today's world, it is a necessity.
Facts!
I've never needed a lawyer so I never wasted my money
Anytime you are questioned by police, you always want counsel present. You can be as innocent as the day is long. If you allow yourself to be taken into an interrogation room without a lawyer at your side, you are a fool.
What if you are just making a statement?
@44Krow If you are taken into an interrogation room, you are not making a statement. You are being questioned.
I think someone took her. Simply because they haven’t found the body.
Also, I want to remind young women, please do not put yourselves in these vulnerable positions. I know it shouldn’t be that way but it is. Evil lurks around everywhere just waiting for an opportunity. Don’t give it that opportunity. No one says just because you are in college that you need to get blackout drunk. Stay with friends always.
This is my thoughts also...recently we have heard alot about human trafficking and it was happening during this time frame as well...she is a small girl and sadly children are in high demand in this industry. She could possibly be anywhere in the world right now.
I'm from this area originally and I'm telling you there are places in this area that Noone would ever find her sadly. The only comfort her parents can have at this point is to hope her story will generate awareness of personal safety.
Praying that someday somehow she will be found so her parents can have some peace...I can't imagine how horrible it is.
Women don’t put themselves in these situations. It’s the perpetrator who is to blame. Women are attacked and harmed whether they are sober, drunk, walking, running, sleeping. It’s not the victims fault. You disgust me.
Truth comes to light even if it takes years. They will find her, alive I hope.❤
@acorn8170 that's true. I think I almost became a victim one night because the sober home I was living at had a curfew and I would get kicked out if missed it so I was bawling when I realized I went half way across town to the wrong street with a similar name (new city) and these men saw me bawling and offered to drive me back and once inside their van started saying I owed them "favors" and there was no way to open the doors from inside the van in the back. I lied and said that's my street when I was still kinda far and they unlocked it and asked for my number and I gave them a fake one and RAN. Dumb decision luckily it ended ok
And make sure those friends are truthworthy too!!!
I'm not victim blaming but when you see how intoxicated some students get it's terrifying.
I know I did …
You shouldn’t feel that your victim blaming for simply stating facts. Your not saying she doesn’t deserve to live or be found , but ppl should be able to not always have to speak good of someone and able to call out the mistakes with out it being called victim blaming ! You shouldn’t have to worry about being labeled as that .
There is a way to state those things in a more tactful way. I also think the combination of stopping their son involvement and their comments to media about her and towards her family that pushed it to victim blaming. It was just a bit much given the circumstances and it was on repeat mode.
why does everyone feel the need to bend over backwards to avoid the label of "victim blaming"? Victims contribute to their deaths all the damn time through boneheaded actions and colossal irresponsibility, and you shouldn't have to feel afraid to say it... it's the folks trying to shut you up about it that are doing the most to contribute to future people being victims
Right! I was never a drinker, so im always DD. How close some people get to death with alcohol is insanity
Why did she lie to her boyfriend about being ill? Why did she go out with another boy? Where did her friend go? Why were her boyfriends friends at her place? Why didn’t they do anything about her going back to this other guys house or tell Jessie? So many weird facts to this that don’t make sense. Very sad she was eventually left to her own devices, it could’ve been the difference between life and death
So many questions!
@@annieeliseit’s a shame she didn’t have her phone, it would’ve really helped. Who knows if what everyone said was what actually happened. It could have been any of them or someone else entirely! I really hope there is a breakthrough and the family can get answers
So many questions and not many answers. Did the police thoroughly investigate everyone? It doesn't seem so.
Yes! Why didn't her boyfriend step on & take her to her or his place?? Isn't that what boyfriends do?? Not saying he did anything to her, just wondering.
@@susanpugh5265 She told him she was staying in because she had a migraine. He watched the game and went to bed. Didn't get the rest of the story until the next day.
These comments pass the vibe check - I think we collectively need to have a bigger conversation of how harmful alcohol is without someone screaming “victim blaming!!” It’s just reality that many or most crimes against young women involve alcohol like this. That doesn’t mean the victim is at fault or deserved it but we need to make young people aware of how dangerous it is - not just dangerous because you might get alcohol poisoning but because it makes you a super easy target for crime.
Well spoken
Yes. It's insane how much drinking is done at college in the US. We have a very infantile relationship with alcohol compared to European. And in addition to making women subject to harm it makes them prone to near and fatal solo accidents as well.
Not to mention, how quickly and easily it can become a harrowing addiction. I was surrounded by alcoholics and addicts since my teen years, as I was an addict and ran with a troubled crowd. I've had many friends lives cut short because of it, including my best friend. But even more heartbreaking, is seeing someone not even start their own life, instead being entirely consumed by addiction, and having any hopes or dreams fade into the bottom of a never ending bottle.
It makes me so frustrated that it's treated so irresponsibly here-with society and advertisers actively encouraging and promoting it.
Yes, very well said!! When you put yourself in this situation, eventually something bad is going to happen.. either to you/ or someone being hurt BY you. ie- drunk driving. I can see the extreme intoxication leading to either the abduction or the heart/ health issues and eventual cause of her death. Sad either way.
They absolutely do not pass the vibe check.
Thank you for covering this case! I lived down the street from Lauren and remember all too well when she went missing. I feel like everyone that lived there at the time, was looking for her. Even months after she was missing I found myself looking for any clue I could find. I still cannot believe she hasn’t been found. It’s truly heartbreaking.
I could imagine if something this terrible happened close to where I live I would be keeping an eye out, I wouldn’t know what to look for but I just know it would always be there in the back of your mind
Thank you so much for covering Lauren's case. I've been following it closely from the moment it happened. I went to IU and I have friends who knew Lauren. I hope she is found, no matter the circumstance. Her parents deserve peace.
I think that the fact that she was not caught on any surveillance cameras on her way home means she never left the place where she was last seen.
Sadly I feel like this too. How can you be captured entering and not leaving …
Bingo!
Agree
I really dislike drinking culture/ alcohol. I wish we had more of a culture of hanging out at the coffee shop or chilling at library than living at the bar.
I agree. It is getting very dangerous
@@annieelise Yes, they also say there are is a large number of people that get trafficked out of bars/ clubs. It seems like a lot of cases I listen to are related to people getting harmed/ taken out of bars or clubs or establishments like that.
Especially when they’re so young and newly on their own. Nothing good ever happens after midnight.
@@Searchd4U This is very true.
Unfortunately we’re one of the hardest partying schools in the country. The drinking culture here is insane.
How ridiculous parents sued those kids: not victim blame but she was responsible for her alcohol and drug use.
I think they did it to compel them to talk
Were they not all adults?
They were trying to stir things up out of desperation. It is suspicious nobody saw her leave.
It's not ridiculous and It's not about money. It's a tactic to get people to talk who have chosen to remain silent. I would do the same thing.
I have 2 daughters. I won't judge them I try to put myself in their shoes. It is the most painful thing to lose a loved one and especially one of your kids. So I don't know what I would do in their place. I understand why they did it
That picture of her precious parents at 29:46 is the most heartbreaking expression of grief I have seen. No words are necessary. The devastation is right there. God bless the family and their loved ones.
I absolutely agree. You said this very well
If it were YOUR SON you probably would have done the same thing!! I’m not going to stand around and let someone throw my son under the bus and he’s been cooperating and took the polygraph!! UNBELIEVABLE!!
I’m from Indiana and this is a pretty well known case here, but unfortunately I never see many people cover this case. Thank you for bringing more eyes to this case!!
I’m from Indy and this case still haunts the State. It is so baffling that there is little to no answers. 💔
My gut tells me random, because I think it would be hard for individuals not to have said something to someone by now. Additionally, with not locating the body in all this years she was probably taken somewhere. This video should be shown to all incoming students at every college.
As someone who used to party hard in my late teens/early 20s, I feel very lucky to have always had good, wise friends around me, to take care of my well-being when needed. I could easily have been in Lauren’s shoes at any point back then….😭 I really feel for her, and her family, and hope they find closure 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I'm so glad you're covering Laurens case. It has stuck with me since i first heard about it, and I've always hoped it would be solved.
I live close to Bloomington. This case still really bothers me. Poor Lauren. I wish they'd find her remains one day.
I hope so too!
how do you know she's dead and not kidnapped/trafficked?
This case is baffling! I’ve always wondered what happened to her. I do think it’s a little weird she was last seen with a group of guys then she was never seen again. I hope this case gets solved soon for her parent’s sakes.
I think human traffickers took advantage of her situation. I think they got “lucky” and were just at the area she was in and took her. Or for all we know human traffickers were watching the partyers trying to get someone like her
It’s hard to say either way what I think happened. It’s definitely possible she was a victim of opportunity for some random attacker. When I was in college I had friend/roommate that was a binge drinker. Before we lived together there was a time we were drinking at my apartment, and she became dead set on walking home. Another friend and I were able to stop her for a while, but in the middle of the night she found her escape when I went to the bathroom. She literally went out and I could hear her running away.
And in this case, you can’t really expect great choices from other intoxicated people around her. So it’s not really fair to go after them imo. When someone is determined to do something they’ll usually find a way.
I tried to stop an acquaintance from drinking and driving. I had his keys and told him that I would drive him home then back to get his car tomorrow. The POS violently twisted my wrist and headbutted me. I threw his keys across the parking lot. He got them, falling over several times, got in his car and drove away. I called the police to report his drunk driving ass. I will try to help people out. But once they act aggressive. F*ck them. "Enjoy the consequences of your stupidity". He got a DUI. And I refused to speak to him again.
I always feel so sad when I hear something about this case. I went to high school with Charlene, Lauren's mom, in Huntsville, AL. She was one of the sweetest and kindest young girls you could ever meet. I can't imagine how she, Rob and Rebecca have dealt with this terrible for over 12+ long years. It breaks my heart. I pray that they will find answers and even justice in this case so they may have peace and comfort in their lives. This is just too long to not know what happened to your child. May God grant them the answers they have so desperately searched for.
If the allegations of her drug use are true, then keeping someone accountable for their own actions and the consequences is not victim blaming.
Where is her body then?? Obviously someone else is involved in this.
agreed! these generations need to learn that. they’d have to be accountable for their own actions first-we’re not there yet.
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Thats if she was found dead due to an overdose. The fact that she has Not been found means there is a preditor ..... this is like blaming a woman for being r*ped because she was drunk. Come on now..
@@jendee1260get off you generational high horse: there have always been drug and alcohol issues for young people in EVERY generation now alive. Maybe you were a perfect person in your eyes, but we are all sinners here together.
I don't think his parents were victim blaming at all, they were tired of seeing their son with someone that was mixing drugs with a heart condition and getting obliterated. I am sure she was protecting her son because she felt people were blaming him. She made so many irresponsible choices and unfortunately it didn't end well. It is a scary world now.
Right, I know the boyfriend's parents were just trying to protect him and clear his name but it seems they could have handled it better. I agree to only talk to cops with a lawyer present, but he should have continued to help her family look for her. And definitely should not have painted the victim as a drug addict, it's been proven that will only lose the community's support, interest, & sympathy, which is vital when solving cases like this
Right? I was thinking about that girl that crashed her boyfriend and his friend into a wall. Men can be victims to toxic relationships too! As a parent watching your kid be with a toxic person and then this happening no wonder his parents did what they did. I would do the same.
@@jenniferwilliams9548they didn't "paint" her as anything. It was the truth. Lauren clearly had issues with substance abuse. Her parents weren't exactly treating the boyfriend fairly either. They want to blame other people for their daughter's irresponsible choices. This is a tragedy that was 100% avoidable. I'm not sure how I would react if I was in Lauren's parents' shoes and I hope I'll never have to find out. I would certainly hope I wouldn't blame other people who spent the night trying to get her to stop or people that werent even with her. It would have been so much better for her parents to acknowledge she had an issue but that she still deserved to be found. I hope they find her soon because it must be so terrible to not have any answers.
I'm only 22 minutes in and it already sounds like WAY too many people's opinions and gossip are involved. But college isn't much different than high school sometimes 🤷♀️ I hope Lauren receives justice soon 💔 Thank you, Annie and team! Y'all work your butts off! 💕
As someone who frequented the same places & parties as Lauren, I will say the simplest answer is the most plausible. She was having the time of her life at IU, but like many of us, didn't know her limits. Unfortunately, the people around her prioritized their own well-being & ambitions over doing the right thing. They had too much to lose then & even more so now. It is my hope that one of them has enough conscience left to at least lead LE to her body. The Spier family deserves to bring Lauren home so they can finally lay her to rest. This case has haunted many for far too long. 💔
This story hits so close to home. I went to IU. It is a great school and I always felt safe in Bloomington. Thank you for covering Annie, I love watching your videos. I too was in the fashion program at IU and went to kilroys every weekend. I hope Lauren is found. I think of her often.
I am torn between it being a crime of opportunity and something being covered up by her group of friends. They are all very wealthy families with good lawyers.
Thank you for covering Lauren’s case. I’m from Indiana and I think of her often, especially anytime I visit Bloomington. There is always an unsettling feeling knowing something sinister happened and life is going on like normal.
The drug/alcohol effects on her heart very well could’ve proven fatal for her. I can see drunk college guys panicking and getting rid of her body. If that is the case, I hope someone says something to clear their conscience so that her family can get answers
Absolutely. My roommate nearly died from alcohol poisoning without a heart condition.
Especially her using cocaine with that heart problem. And the mixing of 2 downers (alcohol/klonopin).
Usually the "oh she died on her own and I panicked and hid her body!" confession is an unbelievable bad excuse but this is one of the few times where it would be believable
I don’t buy that at all. I don’t think a bunch of drunk College guys would have enough wherewithal to be move a body, being able to avoid all security cameras and not be seen by any other tenants in the building. I also don’t think all of them could go so long without one of them cracking under the guilt and coming forward.
I thought about it as well, especially that she was so smashed she couldn't walk. But if that was the only thing that had happened and the male students were innocent, they'd just call an ambulance. My closest suspicion is that she was completely knocked out, they took advantage of her and she died as a result.
Out of everything the thing that sticks out most of all to me is that after being spotted on numerous cameras all night the minute she enters the lads apartment she's never caught on camera again, not leaving that apartment, walking around, nothing. This spoke volumes to me & suggests she never left that apartment on foot.
Thank you for covering this case, Annie. I’m a huge fan of yours and was an IU student with Lauren at the time this tragedy occurred. I’m so glad people are still talking about her case
Finally! Been waiting for you to cover her story. This one haunts me. I lived in Bloomington and went to IU when this happened. IMO the city hasn’t been the same. It has this haunted feeling now. It’s so unsettling to know that she just.. disappeared. Because nearly every step of the way home, she was on camera.. except for the smidge of space she disappeared from. And still nowhere to be found. My heart hurts for her mother. I hope this gives the case a boost. 🙏🏼🕊️
It’s so unsettling that everything had to happen just “right” for her to disappear without a trace since so many cameras did exist in the area. How was she just missed? Someone knew.. Idk this feels so sinister.
My best friend and I helped search for her when she first went missing! We are about an hour from the University. This case hits so close to home. Breaks my heart for her parents and sister.
If I wanted to get drunk and do drugs and my boyfriend didn’t like me doing that I think it’s fair to assume I wouldn’t tell him what I was up to. Maybe this is why she didn’t text him.
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Exactly- it sounds like she wanted to party and she lied to her boyfriend because she knew he didn’t want her doing that and he might try to stop her. It sounds like it may have been a codependent relationship where Jesse would end up “babysitting “ Lauren to make sure she was safe when she would go out- and he was concerned about her substance use as he was aware of her heart condition and how dangerous it could be. He probably feels guilty for what happened even though I don’t think he was to blame. Lauren’s parents need to realize that she had a drinking problem and it just seems like they can’t accept that. It doesn’t mean she was a bad person but her choices did put her in unsafe situations where bad people could take advantage of her.
I believe her group of friends, particularly the guys from that night, absolutely know more than they’ve led law enforcement to believe.
Unusual for no one to crack
No way that many people all could have coordinated stories and all kept quiet this whole time
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If it’s plausible that drunk college kids could dispose of a body indefinitely, with no surveillance seeing it, and no one would crack after over a decade, then I’d say you have a point, but it’s pretty implausible.
@@NickWeissMusicyeah i think someone took advantage of the situation. She ran into a random person that saw her how she was and that person took advantage of the situation. I wouldnt put it past human trafficking. She would be the easiest target ever.
Omg I grew up in Bloomington and I was only a few years younger than her when this happened! One of my best friends actually knew her quite well. I haven’t seen too many people actually cover this.
Sharing for Lauren’s dear mother! I pray her pain is lifted and she is able to get some answers very soon! I don’t want to even imagine the pain and heartbreak she is consumed with 💔
So odd how it feels long ago and yet like yesterday, at the same time.
All those times I walked through my front door after volunteering… the survivor’s guilt was intense, the defeat in not finding her was crippling.
She wasn’t much younger than me or my friends- it could’ve been any one of us.
Thank you!! Thank you for saying her name, for stating the obvious issues in this case… for caring! Thank you, Annie.
You and my mom have the same name
@@LisaTrusty Well that’s awesome! Tell her that her name doppelgänger says, “hello”!
I dont know how you do it! Thank you for always bringing us new/older/crazy cases and updates all the time! You work so hard and we appreciate it! ❤
Having Lauren tell Jesse that she had a headache but went out drinking with other boys makes it sound like she was trying to hook up with one of them. She knew Jay for a few years so it makes it seem like the new "friend" Corey might be an exciting new love interest.
IF ALL THE STUDENTS WERE PAYING THEIR OWN WAY THRU SCHOOL- they wouldn’t have time to party. SCHOOL IS TO LEARN. 4 YEARS OF PARTYING-Ridiculous!
Love that you covered this case!
I was working as a teacher in Bloomington when this happened. It was crazy… it still baffles me..
Such a baffling case, and also very sad and heartbreaking
I still Google Lauren to see if she has been found. I have never forgotten about her since she went missing, I did the same thing only with Kristen Smart my adult life. I hope Lauren's family eventually gets answers.💙 a lot of cold cases are getting solved.
Reminds me of Kristen Smarts case from 1996. Paul Flores was finally found guilty of her murder this year and did so without finding the body. Hopefully lauren can get justice also
I’ve seen the coverage of this case from many other creators, but your videos just hit differently. Obrigada 🙏🏻 beijos e abraços da sua amiga brasileira e portuguesa.
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I don't get it. When I have a migraine, there is no way I can go out or be around anybody. I can't stand light, noise or motion. She was out partying with a migraine? I don't but it.
Well, she told Jesse she had a migraine and was going to bed, to get him to go to bed. Then he did so and she snuck out to party.
I can’t imagine what Lauren’s parents have been through. To have a child go missing like that and never get any answers. Prayers for her family! Truly, my heart goes out to them. I have a daughter her age and I feel like I’d die, I feel like I couldn’t ever stop looking for her!!
I love you, thank you for telling the stories to help the victims and their families 💕❤️
There’s a difference between blaming a victim for what happened to them and simply acknowledging that they participated in activities that resulted in increased vulnerability. Of COURSE no one deserves violence because they participated in drugs or other risky behaviors, but there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging the fact that without engaging in those behaviors, the person would have been at a less elevated risk of something bad happening to them. I am unbelievably lucky nothing permanent happened to me when I was younger and engaged in risky activities, but I acknowledge that some of the choices I made put me at an increased risk of harm. Lauren never deserved what happened to her, but the choices she made unfortunately and undoubtedly raised the statistical risk of her encountering foul play.
Good morning Annie as always I love and adore you ❤. I wanna say thank you for giving us a case every day and I'm very grateful for you. You are doing such a phenomenal job at telling these cases. I've already told you but I freaking love your hair, it looks so gorgeous 😍 on you. I totally thought you were like 25 or 26. Idk how old you are but you look so young. You're just killing the game 🎯. You are just awesome the personality is everything 😍🌟🌹🥰🤗💋❤️
Guys please click the like button because Annie is just incredibly amazing and you won't be disappointed 😊
What a nice comment to wake up to! Thank you so much!!!
Your so welcome ❤️
Never stop fighting for victims please 🤞🏼
I don't think the people in her social group could keep a secret like this. If it happened at a party as theory 2 suggests, there were probably a lot more people that would have seen & talked about it or would have come forward as they matured. Sounds like a serial creeper watching the bar to see who would be his victim that night, then followed her till he could grab her.
I’ve only ever been that drunk one time. Dropped my purse, keys, everything, and didn’t care one bit. The ground just kept rushing up towards me.
Luckily I was able to get home safe. This is so sad :( Poor Lauren ❤
This case scares me so much because my daughter is a Jr. at Bloomington rt now. I know they all have had fake IDs and All drink quite a lot.. I've even sent this case coverage to her..saying please be responsible and help to keep an eye on each other.. not to mention remind them that they are there for an education and that must come 1st.. So sad and won't leave my mind as well I'm sure many others .. So everyone keep your prayers for everyone involved and pray it's made extra awareness for them all.
Crazy how many remains were found, that werent lauren!
Good morning everyone! Happy Tuesday. Can’t wait to tune into a new case. Thanks Annie, for all the great work❤
I have so much empathy for her family. 💔
I also wish all victims got this level of investigation and press coverage.
Thank you so much for covering this case. I’m from Indiana and am very familiar with this case. I hope the family gets answers soon. It’s been far too long.
I have been following this case since the jump and you have details I've never heard. Just started following your channel. Job well done, impressed by your research and delivery. Thank you for your work.
THANKS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO ANNIE ❤️
Thank you for your comment about the "lawyering up" thing. I feel like when people don't get a lawyer, everyone says it's the biggest mistake, even if you're innocent. But if you're innocent and get a lawyer, people say you must be guilty because you lawyered up.
exactly, if you can't win either way then you may as well protect yourself and just get a lawyer
Missing people cases break my heart on a whole other level.
I can't imagine the continuous torture parents endure when their child is missing.
Not to know if they're dead or alive somewhere, screaming for their mom and dad, going through God knows what, if they're hungry or cold or injured.
Just horrible. I'd lose my mind at some point. I hope and pray that her family will get answers.
Your sweatshirt looks so so comfy❤❤❤❤and this case is crazy. Thank you for the coverage and your compassion.
It really is! And you are welcome. Thanks for watching!
The parents “had a duty”to teach their daughter about the world and possible dangers of being intoxicated.
Kids that age are well aware of the dangers. They just don't ever think it will happen to THEM!
We all know that kids don't always listen to their parents. Please don't blame them of all people!
If it had been an accidental overdose her body would’ve been found. I don’t think a group of college kids could’ve known how to make her disappear so completely. The mounting circumstantial evidence that Josh Hallmark has discovered around Israel Keyes potential involvement has me fairly convinced that she is one of his victims. 😢
Yes! Why know one else is saying anything about it beats me
I haven't ever heard of a Keyes connection!? I'm going to look into tho. Thanks..about someone making her disappear..I'm with you on that! As if it was someone who knew what they were doing for sure. Or they had the means of power to make a garanteed disappearance happen. Hypothetically and only Hypothetically..L.E. keeping all info is suss to me,after all this time,what if she wad picked up by L.E. and passed away under there detainment? I leave every possibility that could be..open for discussion..
@@leecordell7418if you want a truly deep dive on Israel Keyes you need to listen to True Crime Bullsh*t by Josh Hallmark. Josh didn’t think Keyes was involved at first but the more research he has done the more convincing it becomes.
I’ve never been this early so excited!!
Great work , Annie , on this complicated case.
I’m the mom of 1 child. A son , that will 21 years old on Halloween. I can’t imagine the pain that Lauren’s family have and still endure. I hope they get answers soon , at the very least are able to bring Lauren home and give her the burial she deserves. May she rest in peace 🕊️
Thanks for covering this story. It’s my hometown.♥️
Can we talk about how man random human remains just randomly showed up during the search? Did they open up missing persons reports? Curious how many they found.
I live about 40 miles north of Bloomington & worked there during this time, so I’ve studied this case a lot. I briefly met the Spirers several days after Lauren went missing. The pain in their expressions was heartbreaking. The Spirers also hired Bo Dietl, the infamous private eye who pissedoff the b-town cops by calling them “Gomer Pyles”…Prayers for the family and justice for Lauren!!!
PS some camera footage has been leaked or released…..
They are Gomers! Very crooked ones too
I gotta say, you do awesome deep dives with new info on cases that have been covered as nauseam. I’m always impressed. Thank you for keeping the content coming!
This case has always been so close to me!! I have Long QT Syndrome. I was diagnosed very young, things are so different with how it’s treated today. I had a cardiac arrest at 16, survived. I have an aunt who survived cardiac arrest, a cousin who passed at 25 from drinking the night before and the startle of the alarm clock that morning. I got a pacemaker/defibrillator implanted after I survived that arrest. Im now 35. A completely different person than I was in college!! I’m a born again Christian wife and mother today. Thankfully, my 3 children did not inherit Long QT Syndrome. It’s a crazy syndrome in that many people have zero symptoms… ever. They’re asymptomatic (like most of my large extended family). Some people, they’re first symptom is fatal or near fatal (like my aunt). It’s highly treatable though if you know about it and take your beta blockers like you’re supposed to and avoid certain medications and drugs.
In college, I was an “invincible” partier, because I had a pacemaker/defibrillator. Such addict thinking, but the anxiety ruled me from having this condition and as counter intuitive as it sounds, being messed up helped that anxiety. I went to the top party school in Wisconsin (UW Madison). I REALLY believe she took cocaine, and suffered a LQTS related event that was unfortunately fatal. This case has haunted my dreams, as crazy as that sounds- I’ve had a few extremely vivid dreams about her with her in it. I believe they panicked and hid her body. I had dreams of where she was showing me, and found pictures online of identical areas I saw in my dreams.
I finally did email years ago to her family acknowledging that it sounds insane (I never believed this stuff myself, but these dreams were recurrent, awful dreams that led to a defibrillator shock in my sleep one night). I cannot remember what the place was called now in my dream but it was white something and there was white bricks. There was a bridge, and something with tires. I profusely apologized to the family for bothering them with a dream. But after I finally sent that email to her family from her website, the dreams stopped. I’d have to look in my email to know when, but it was 5yrs ago at least. I still check for updates here and there but haven’t looked into it for a while.
God works in mysterious ways, don’t apologize for “bothering them with your dreams”
I hope you’re doing well! God bless
Is every single person who disappears “kind hearted, bubbly, a really great girl”? I swear, why do no garbage people ever disappear?
I live in a college town and we were crowned the infamous biggest party college for a time as well. Just a couple states over. That was during my college days and it isn’t like that anymore around here, but it was wild when it was. We had so much fun and I met so many great people, but looking back there are sooo many things that could have went wrong. There were definitely some not great people among us at that time that we didn’t realize until many years later as actual adults when a couple of girls in my hometown were murdered. The world is just a scary place and it’s sad.
Chiming in from another heralded small college party town here (Chico, Ca). Chico state, student housing and all Greek houses are downtown. A few years back, a husband, father, and nurse at our local hospital would drive around downtown at night and pickup intoxicated college girls who were walking home alone night, drugging them and r*ping them in his car. His own wife figured it out when she found needles and restraints in his car, and she turned him in. It only takes one creep!
No judgment for the victims, but more and more of the True Crime videos’ victims have been drunk. I’m not blaming them, but I believe adults are not doing their job by warning young women of the dangers of drinking. Even when they think they are safe with friends so many times they are deserted by those friends. Sometimes because those friends are selfish, sometimes the friends are drinking themselves and don’t make wise decisions. It’s just so sad that so many young ladies lives are shortened by the overuse of alcohol.
We need to teach our children not to leave each other. Things happen and they should look out for one another, sadly with technology the way it is I don’t think people are as close or caring as they used to be.
I agree. Alcohol is way too glamorized, especially to young adults. It can be dangerous being impaired. When it can affect your driving, your walking, your judgement…no victim ever deserves to be harmed, but we as a society need to stop acting like it’s fine to get totally drunk. If we care about our friends and our kids, why would we want them so drunk they end up passing out, falling, puking, etc.? I don’t understand it.
I wish there was some way to teach kids about responsible alcohol use before they go off to college. Just seems that so many of the disappearances and deaths of young people are connected to liquor. Despite the stigma, cannabis is rarely involved. Just sayin...
Heartfelt condolences to all involved with this case, especially Lauren's loved ones!
To teach responsible alcohol consumption, we must first stop making its consumption so taboo. Here in the states we have to be 21 to consume any alcohol. In other countries, it’s normal for minors to consume alcohol. I’m not saying to let your child get drunk; however, a few sips of wine cooler, beer, or champagne shouldn’t be considered a crime. In my early 20’s I abused alcohol because I could finally consume it.
It’s weird that cannabis has the stigma but alcohol doesn’t. Alcohol is much more dangerous.
I absolutely agree about cannabis. It's far less dangerous than alcohol. Also I do believe that we would have a better college scene if the alcohol age was lower. Perhaps, then we could create a culture where teens learned to drink responsibly at home. Now we have a culture where the first time people can legally drink is also the time where they are first living away from home and with a bunch of other young people. It's a recipe for chaos.
Well said!!!
That part!!
Reminds me of the Gabby Petito case, when they found around 9 other bodies, before hers was ultimately found 😔 I wonder how often this happens during other search/rescue cases & how they deal with those bodies as they come up 🤔
Lauren's ex might as well come out and say "Lauren got herself disappeared just to ruin my career." 🙄
It's hard to imagine the hole left in a heart after a friend goes missing, but the pain Lauren's Mom and Dad must suffer... wow .. they shouldn't have sued the boys, but I can understand that maybe they aren't always thinking straight. I hope they find their baby and some kind of peace.
Annie, I really appreciate all your hard work on so many videos on true crime! Girl! You are killing it! ❤
Thank you for covering this crazy case! I’m a few hours from IU and think about her every time I drive by. I pray her family gets some sort of peace with this. I could not imagine their pain.
I have been following this case for a few years now. You did a great job with it! I like you am torn on different theories but I am leaning towards an overdose of drugs and alcohol and then panic from the one(s) that were present. No one wanted to get blamed so they or he got rid of the body. She was warned not to drink or take drugs by her doctor but she ignored that warning and got in the party scene and it seemed like it had to have played a big role in her disappearance. Once again great job with this story!
My daughter was attending IU music school in Bloomington when this young woman disappeared. Terrifying to me. I had heard about the other girls disappearances too. A possible serial killer roaming the area.
So happy you posted ☺
I got a hour free at work and saw you posted a video yay! Best break today! Long time viewer here ❤
You're the best!
Odd coincidence that the homeless man who " heard " a scream, may have known more and that's why he died several days later. Someone was worried about what he may know and silenced him permanently 🤷♀️. Either way, I pray her family will get closure some day. Some rather than later
I'm honestly torn on this one. Unfortunately. as you said, Annie, I have a hard time believing a bunch of drunk 20 year olds weren't capable of hiding her body for 12+ years BUT they were drunk enough to hide her body long enough till they sobered up. Every parent deserves justice. I pray her parents receive it sooner than later.
I'm from the bloomington area and remember the day she went missing. Its so sad. I hope one day she's found 🙏 😔 ❤️
Thank you so much for covering this case. It really continues to bother me and I was looking for any updates recently. I can totally relate to having some regrettable times with partying too much. She seemed like she had such a bright future ahead of her despite the college environment she was in.