I'm taking as much from watching you use the data log features that I'm not familiar with as the tuning. Keep them coming. I've been using mph to mph and offsetting them to keep it from kicking in when not needed, so I'll try the counter cell to help with the zero and then back down the offset. Still need it for tire growth.
If you haven't been handling the interpolation of the wheel slip percent in the tables you should be seeing the slip % growing and shrinking as you approach and depart the center point of the 4 cells.
How useful is front wheel speed on a drag car traction control when the majority of traction loss likelihood is during the time you are blanking due to potential wheelie. Especially for radial cars.
Great video, as always. Your stuff is always eye-opening, to the point of keeping me up at night! I'm controlling a 4L60E with the Dominator (558-405 harness). Can I create a driveshaft RPM input from one of the reserved J4 inputs, to implement this type of traction control, or so I need to add a separate DS magnet ring and sensor? I have a DS speed math channel based on mph - but I don't know how to create an input using the trans tailshaft RPM, which the Dominator obviously knows.
Hi! I just got the dominator, I have a pro charged F3x-140 hemi, can you make a video on injector end angle? Or is using the table in the software the best option?
End angle isn’t one of those things that can be easily done in a video. If you want to discuss it more I would be happy to help with your specific application. Shoot me an email at highperfconsulting@gmail.com
Is there a way in Holley to do a math channel same as in data logger. But math channel in the. Tune. And use that numerical value as an input to an advance table. Such as front wheel vs rear wheel to get slip and then use that value into a 1 D advanced table and control timing from that numerical math channel? Just one example.
There are a few small reasons that add up in my opinion. The biggest for me though is I find it easier to process a slip percent as an axis value in my head. The other thing is I can take the slip percent and do a simple 1D if I want, or multiple tables, and have a consistent axis to work with.
How do these table differ from the canned traction control in the traction ICF? It seems they accomplish the same things. Is there a pro/con from one to the other? Using MPH instead of rpm, when setting up the slip PWM table won't the rear MPH always be 1-3MPH faster than the front under normal acceleration? I am guessing the four cell averages of the cell values are close enough to account for that? Very informative vid!
You mentioned that it is important to use the “soft” rev limiter for this. Over the last couple of years I was under the impression that “spark high only” was the hot ticket for a rev limit. Will we see much of a difference when we are on the main rev limit for non traction control reasons?
Using the Soft rev limiter is really only important in the context of traction control since it is the only rev limit type that has different degrees of cylinder cut. That means it is the only type that we can "ramp" during traction control. All other limiters are are either on/off giving only one level of control. As far as the different rev limit selections and how they act when you run into the main limiter, they really are not that much different in the grand scheme of things. Now, on the two step, Spark, High Only is still the hot ticket as it has the tightest rpm spread 99% of the time.
@@highperformanceconsulting7616 is it possible in the software to use one rev limit for 2 step (eg “high”) and another after the TB is released (soft/high) for TC?
I use rev limit 1 for two step and the main rev limit for my TC but there is no reason you couldn’t setup an output for rev limit 2 and use it in some fashion. Sorry if that’s not specific enough but I’m not positive the exact context of your question so it’s hard to give a precise answer.
Ohhhhh how we have just become best friends. Hi my name is Josh and I like fast cars, guns and Chinese food 🤣😂 seriously thanks for this video. I have been searching for something like this. Just what we needed. Keep these Holley videos coming BFF
I'm taking as much from watching you use the data log features that I'm not familiar with as the tuning. Keep them coming.
I've been using mph to mph and offsetting them to keep it from kicking in when not needed, so I'll try the counter cell to help with the zero and then back down the offset. Still need it for tire growth.
If you haven't been handling the interpolation of the wheel slip percent in the tables you should be seeing the slip % growing and shrinking as you approach and depart the center point of the 4 cells.
@@highperformanceconsulting7616 I did a little at first. I'll use this to tighten things back up some.
Great content! Cold MI roads were the perfect testbed to try this out tonight!
That is great! I hope it worked well
Got everything loaded into V6. I think I understand it all, to bad it will be Spring until I can test it. Thanks for the help.
My pleasure. Please let me know how it works out for you.
Pretty cool. I tuned my Holley terminator x to use tables just like this.
This is amazing! Can wait to get my holley controlled car finished. Thank you for such informative videos
My pleasure!
How useful is front wheel speed on a drag car traction control when the majority of traction loss likelihood is during the time you are blanking due to potential wheelie. Especially for radial cars.
Great video and tutorial, very thorough and well explained. Thank you!
Awesome video thanks for taking the time to share this.
Thank you. It’s my pleasure
Great video, as always. Your stuff is always eye-opening, to the point of keeping me up at night!
I'm controlling a 4L60E with the Dominator (558-405 harness). Can I create a driveshaft RPM input from one of the reserved J4 inputs, to implement this type of traction control, or so I need to add a separate DS magnet ring and sensor? I have a DS speed math channel based on mph - but I don't know how to create an input using the trans tailshaft RPM, which the Dominator obviously knows.
Did you ever find an answer to this? Just curious...
@@adamarndt7617 No - I never got an answer. I may have to add a separate DS sensor, unless someone offers an easier option.
did you ever put a link to wheels slip % in mph?
How do you determine the wheel slip percents
Thank you very much for taking the time to make and post videos like this. Is this the best place to ask a few questions about it?
You’re welcome. You can ask here or send an email to highperfconsulting@gmail.com with you questions.
Absolute gold! Thank you! Subbed!
I wanna use this so bad but it’s terrifying watching this. Do u offer a service to make me a base tables for all this?
Hi! I just got the dominator, I have a pro charged F3x-140 hemi, can you make a video on injector end angle? Or is using the table in the software the best option?
End angle isn’t one of those things that can be easily done in a video. If you want to discuss it more I would be happy to help with your specific application. Shoot me an email at highperfconsulting@gmail.com
Does this compliment the Holley Traction Control? If so, any conflicts?
It will work with the other holley TC options
Is there a way in Holley to do a math channel same as in data logger. But math channel in the. Tune. And use that numerical value as an input to an advance table. Such as front wheel vs rear wheel to get slip and then use that value into a 1 D advanced table and control timing from that numerical math channel? Just one example.
That is effectively what I did with the pwm table
Thanks so much for the video; great info. What is the advantage of using slip ratio in lieu of just front vs rear wheel mph in an AT to pull timing?
There are a few small reasons that add up in my opinion. The biggest for me though is I find it easier to process a slip percent as an axis value in my head.
The other thing is I can take the slip percent and do a simple 1D if I want, or multiple tables, and have a consistent axis to work with.
How do these table differ from the canned traction control in the traction ICF? It seems they accomplish the same things. Is there a pro/con from one to the other? Using MPH instead of rpm, when setting up the slip PWM table won't the rear MPH always be 1-3MPH faster than the front under normal acceleration? I am guessing the four cell averages of the cell values are close enough to account for that? Very informative vid!
You mentioned that it is important to use the “soft” rev limiter for this. Over the last couple of years I was under the impression that “spark high only” was the hot ticket for a rev limit. Will we see much of a difference when we are on the main rev limit for non traction control reasons?
Using the Soft rev limiter is really only important in the context of traction control since it is the only rev limit type that has different degrees of cylinder cut. That means it is the only type that we can "ramp" during traction control. All other limiters are are either on/off giving only one level of control. As far as the different rev limit selections and how they act when you run into the main limiter, they really are not that much different in the grand scheme of things.
Now, on the two step, Spark, High Only is still the hot ticket as it has the tightest rpm spread 99% of the time.
@@highperformanceconsulting7616 is it possible in the software to use one rev limit for 2 step (eg “high”) and another after the TB is released (soft/high) for TC?
I use rev limit 1 for two step and the main rev limit for my TC but there is no reason you couldn’t setup an output for rev limit 2 and use it in some fashion.
Sorry if that’s not specific enough but I’m not positive the exact context of your question so it’s hard to give a precise answer.
@@highperformanceconsulting7616 I just realized my question was pretty dumb. Sorry for being confusing. Appreciate your content!
My pleasure
Ohhhhh how we have just become best friends. Hi my name is Josh and I like fast cars, guns and Chinese food 🤣😂 seriously thanks for this video. I have been searching for something like this. Just what we needed. Keep these Holley videos coming BFF
Lol. Glad you like them