Electric scooters are popping up on streets all across B.C., and you may be thinking of picking one up yourself. Here's a primer on where you can and can't ride one in the province.
I have been riding the Langley area for a couple yrs now and never an issue with the local authorities. Lights,helmet, gloves,pads,be respectful and follow the laws and we as a electric community can ride for many yrs to come
Clearly VPD is all talk and no action. Cyclists and scooters go freely on the pedestrian zones of the seawall. The city could consider bylaw officers to assist with this since in other parts of the province they do more than just parking tickets, give them a task that actually keeps people/pedestrians safe!
Would be nice if CBC Vancouver could provide the links to the actual bylaw they're talking about. Also, I would love to own an electric bike/scooter/motorcycle, but the current law is too restrictive for people who wants an alternative way to travel between Surrey and Vancouver. For example, I want to use a more powerful electric bike/scooter/motorcycle from Aliexpress. They come with more powerful batteries with powerful dual motors to carry a 200 - 300 pound guy across the municipalities (100km range) easily. Plus, the bylaws in the municipalities are not standardized across. Which makes it even more confusing. These restrictions just hampers innovation and technology. Which is ironic.
An elderly always complains almost got hit. Once, I ran past an elderly with a very safe distance, but she yelled at me that I almost hit her. The world is full of crazy and grump old people. I hope I won't become one when I get old.
Why doesn't this apply to other electric mobility devices like skateboards? I think it makes sense for scooters and other devices to fit the same rules as bicycles, but why artificially limit it to the least portable type of mobility device?
because electric skateboard didn't take off in popularity so no need to put resources into that. While e scooters are great mobility tool, there are monkeys going around causing injuries. Toronto has it banned on its streets, while the greater Toronto area is allowed with rules set as well.
Electric skateboards are not in a great area they follow the same laws as a skateboard sidewalk streets etc. you’re very unlikely to get stopped anyways
Rain is not an issue my hi boy s2 pro handles it just fine snow could pose an issue but where these are most common snow is uncommon so it is not really that big of an issue either
It is absolutely ludicrous that these scooters are allowed on the road. Take a hint from San Diego and ban them from the road. These riders DO NOT obey the rules if the road. This officer knows that these rules are constantly being broken. The worst are the food delivery kids. Also the kids are getting lazier and lazier.
I'm always careful on my scooter, i look way down the road for stuff so i have lots of time to react and i just assume no one can see me and avoid cars and people. I really hope idiots don't ruin scooters for the rest of us.
Why does Canada have such annoying regulations, only 24 km/h? What are you going to do with 24 km/h?! Your not getting anywhere with that speed and the age limit is 16?! You can legally drive a car at that age!
The other day in Langley there was a scooter merging onto the trans Canada hwy... in guildford I've almost killed my neighbor a half dozen times whe he illegally rides and illegally runs stop signs.
i hope these companies are also factoring in the costs to the environment when all those cheap plastic parts and lithium batteries end up in landfills in about 10 months..
I agree that it would be a shame to sell low quality scooters that don't last, but the unfortunate reality is that cars are so bad for the environment and our city's traffic that even if scooters lasted 10 months, they'd still be a better option to driving a car for your commute!
I love how these are becoming more popular, but the problem is... It's pretty difficult to live in a hilly region like North Vancouver and use an e-scooter when the motor limit is 500w and 24km/h. Scooters capable of going up steep 10% hills without a problem tend to have much stronger/faster motors, which are technically illegal because the MOTOR can't exceed 24km/h. You can't get a stronger motor even if you don't exceed that speed limit.
I just bought a Maxbik l9 in Kelowna, but their main store is in Surrey. It easily goes up 35% grade , dual motor. I paid $1199 locally but I saw them on Amazon Canada for $999 I think it would make it up Lonsdale, you won’t be flying up the hill but it’ll make it.
I wonder what's the reasoning for not allowing e scooters on seawall? There are bicycle lanes on seawall area right? why are bikes allowed but not seawall?
I have been commuting in Langley for four months now on a scooter, i stick to bike lanes and side streets with no serious problems so far. In areas where the bike lane crosses the right turn lane, i only use the right of way when it is clearly shown with a green lane strip, otherwise I take the turn tight up on to the sidewalk then get off and walk the scooter across the intersection. I am pretty sure this practice has prevented my becoming a human speedbump several times, so i suggest the same to anyone who uses bike lanes on high traffic roads. Nobody cares if you are right, they will run you down and lie about it later.
The speed limit is being complicated for no reason. It should simply match ebikes. And not easily accessible information, but the speed regulation should apply only to the motor. For escooter thats 32kph max. Ebike motors assist up to 32kph and the rider if they can then peddle away to go faster. Many street cyclists ride around 50kph on peddle alone. This needs to be normalized across all provinces, and let bylaws restrict where necessary due to special road conditions may exist. It will simplify rules because default rules are provincial, while cities and other municipalities can restrict as they see fit and fair based on street conditions.
The police should start giving tickets to e-scooters and all bicycles on sidewalks. It is getting out of hand in downtown Vancouver especially the bicycles.
I live on Ontario and this is a love hate relationship. As a pedestrian, I hate these high speed e-scooter or electrical bikes. I almost got hit so many times walking on sidewalk. As a commuter during pandamic, I don't feel comfortable on the subway. However, the bylaw has not been pass for escooters so I won't get one.
An elderly always complains almost got hit. Once, I ran past an elderly with a very safe distance, but she yelled at me that I almost hit her. The world is full of crazy and grump old people. I hope I won't become one when I get old.
@@edocms lots of out shape, uncordinated people are hitting people with scouters.Have seem many scouter riders annoyed by pedestrians being too slow, ridding their heels, Old people being the slowest, and easiest to injure. Now this is solved for you,, you now can use the road, Biles use the road, no reason you can't. Funny thing when you get old, you might just be one those people moving slowly, they are usually those that avoided exercise ,, just like scouter riders avoid getting a bike which requires having to pedel. .
Stupid bylaws. Electric scooters, bikes, skates should all be allowed on sidewalks, but with lower speed limit. Any healthy person can run faster than 12 km/hr and they are allowed on sidewalks. Think about that.
No need to ride on sidewalks, there's plenty of road space that can be reallocated, it just takes political will. Parking enormous vehicles takes more precedence than providing safe space to accomodate fast emerging modes like e-scooters, those are not the kind of priorities we need or can afford to have long term.
human beings colliding is totally different than something with wheels. There are rules for operating wheeled vehicles on the road, there arent rules for sidewalks, it would be absolutely pandemonium if you let everyone and their dog use wheeled vehicles on the sidewalks. People are stupid, especially where they feel safe and there are no rules, all vehicles belong on the road, no matter how small they are.
Imagine a mode of transport for city commuting that doesn't require a battery, is powered by a human and gives you exercise while you use it, and could take you basically anywhere while carrying things with you. That will be the day when we invent something like that!
When you ride and suddenly people and kids running on to the Sidewalk Have you saying after getting into nearly missed of Someone end up in hospital. ROAD is designed to travel fast. Sidewalks design typical 5 km/h to 15 Km/h jogging speed. Some forgetting about he or she first few time falling on the sidewalk. People take dog and cat put for a walk on sidewalk. Not just kids. By the way you ride full speed on the sidewalk. Truck driver is not going to see you coming and have proceed Right or Left turn Example Knight S @49. Knight@ 41. Main @ Maine. Cambie@41. Broadway Vancouver many trick delivery goods. 7 @Main west 4 & West 2. (Kingsway Vancouver) Safeway West 4 West 10. Truck driver required to back up via major sidewalk. 80% car Driver is going to see you ride along the same direction on the major same road. Unfortunately 20% car driver are responsible driver just like EBIKE and Escooter riders. 500 Lumen red light is recommended. All truck driver is going to see you riding on the road. At 40 km/h - 60 km/h.
@@raymond289 Err I have never sent anyone to the hospital by riding either a bicycle or an escooter on the sidewalk. I will however end up in a hospital 100% if a car hits me while i'm riding on the road and I have had many close calls, so no I ain't riding on the road. Look at Japan for example, how both bicycles and pedestrians shares the sidewalk with no problem. We are so behind. sigh.
@@yondaimehokage2281 you are in North America. Canada. British Columbia 20% driver license was handout by ICBC Examiner. Japan, Korea, Hong kong and Taiwan. Strict driving rules like most European countries. 50 % of age 30 and young feel proper road lesson is not necessary. That the attitude. I have drove under age twice in early 90's (1992 - 1995) road are totally different in the time era. cyclists in Toronto or Vancouver attitude not looking while changing lane. 90% and What going on ride Bicycles on the wong side of the road. A dude became smart riding the wrong side in a Major intersection. I slow down abit drove closer to curb as I got cars behind a 5 Ton truck. He end up walking his bicycle on the sidewalk. Part of not being responsible to ride wrong direction on roadways. Many truck driver will start to enforce this.
An "E-scooter" is a motorized vehicle. The allowable top speed is 24km/h. Consider that the scooter can weight 45kg on it's own. there's no way of telling if a scooter is 45kg. 50kg. Or 60km. I've seem people double on a "E-scooter" An entry exam for a license' needs to be required before being allowed to purchase an electric motorized vehicle. After acquiring an entrance exam 365 license. those things need to be on the road. Side walks are for Bipedal. Bike lanes are for Bipedal powered equipment like bikes, skateboards, roller blades, etc. "E-scooters" and all other vehicles that are electric power need to be kept to the roads with other motorized vehicles.
As somebody who works for ICBC I disagree I don’t think a license should be required for a ESCOOTER using them on the road with cars isn’t something that I suggest for people who are not comfortable with it 24 km an hour maximum speed is slower than the electric bike legal maximum of 30 km an hour and electric bikes don’t require a license to drive technically under the letter of the law electric scooters are classified as a mobility assistant to be classified under the Canadian motor vehicles act as requiring a license it would have to meet the requirements for LPM which is 60 km an hour or more and ICBC would have to be willing to ensure it At this point these might as well of be made legal there are too many of them and they are too comon For otherwise
Uh, how about we expand the space allotted for pedestrians/cycling/other pevs, instead of shoving all three groups into tiny lanes that they have to share with each other, then complain when there's a problem that is obviously easily solvable? Car-centric much...
Common sense approach by the police. Fair play!
My wife and I both love our e-scooters. Less $ in gas and more fun.
I have been riding the Langley area for a couple yrs now and never an issue with the local authorities. Lights,helmet, gloves,pads,be respectful and follow the laws and we as a electric community can ride for many yrs to come
Tell that to the riders who wear a turban (especially the Gen-Z'r). They ain't gonna listen to some "why-lo" po-po.
helmet is a must. and lights at night is a must im a cyclist. my scooter is coming soon i live in richmond
@@misternobodysixtynine why would you even care? they're the ones getting hurt if they crash, not you
That’s why I bought a scooter!! ( due to Covid) I drive it like I stole it!! Freedom!!!
Thank you for the video.. very informative!
Clearly VPD is all talk and no action. Cyclists and scooters go freely on the pedestrian zones of the seawall. The city could consider bylaw officers to assist with this since in other parts of the province they do more than just parking tickets, give them a task that actually keeps people/pedestrians safe!
Is Not VPD is DPD Disney Police Department
Is Vancouver many talk less action.
Disney Vancouver is how I see as.
We need more bike routes
Would be nice if CBC Vancouver could provide the links to the actual bylaw they're talking about. Also, I would love to own an electric bike/scooter/motorcycle, but the current law is too restrictive for people who wants an alternative way to travel between Surrey and Vancouver. For example, I want to use a more powerful electric bike/scooter/motorcycle from Aliexpress. They come with more powerful batteries with powerful dual motors to carry a 200 - 300 pound guy across the municipalities (100km range) easily. Plus, the bylaws in the municipalities are not standardized across. Which makes it even more confusing. These restrictions just hampers innovation and technology. Which is ironic.
I know right, the regulations are so annoying!
www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/transportation-environment/active-transportation/policy-legislation/motor-vehicle-act-pilot-projects/scooter
The problem is, road sides are always dirty. You run more risk of flat tire on the side of the road than you would on a sidewalk
An elderly always complains almost got hit. Once, I ran past an elderly with a very safe distance, but she yelled at me that I almost hit her. The world is full of crazy and grump old people. I hope I won't become one when I get old.
Lots of grumpy young people.
Don’t worry u might crash and go young
Why doesn't this apply to other electric mobility devices like skateboards? I think it makes sense for scooters and other devices to fit the same rules as bicycles, but why artificially limit it to the least portable type of mobility device?
because electric skateboard didn't take off in popularity so no need to put resources into that. While e scooters are great mobility tool, there are monkeys going around causing injuries. Toronto has it banned on its streets, while the greater Toronto area is allowed with rules set as well.
Electric skateboards are not in a great area they follow the same laws as a skateboard sidewalk streets etc. you’re very unlikely to get stopped anyways
Think twice before getting one...in raining season and winter, battery capacity could drop rapidly
Rain is not an issue my hi boy s2 pro handles it just fine snow could pose an issue but where these are most common snow is uncommon so it is not really that big of an issue either
It is absolutely ludicrous that these scooters are allowed on the road. Take a hint from San Diego and ban them from the road. These riders DO NOT obey the rules if the road. This officer knows that these rules are constantly being broken. The worst are the food delivery kids. Also the kids are getting lazier and lazier.
I love those so much this Electric scooters are the best they help so much
Every car driver and pedestrian in Vancouver hates these scooter delivery riders. The scooter riders are irresponsible. They don’t even wear helmets.
I'm always careful on my scooter, i look way down the road for stuff so i have lots of time to react and i just assume no one can see me and avoid cars and people. I really hope idiots don't ruin scooters for the rest of us.
Why does Canada have such annoying regulations, only 24 km/h? What are you going to do with 24 km/h?! Your not getting anywhere with that speed and the age limit is 16?! You can legally drive a car at that age!
We already saw what happens in the us and it want good these are dumb and will lead to lawsuits.
A lot dose stupid people are using the side walk
The other day in Langley there was a scooter merging onto the trans Canada hwy... in guildford I've almost killed my neighbor a half dozen times whe he illegally rides and illegally runs stop signs.
Pls bc dont be like u.s 🤦♂️
Funny thing is everyone rides on side walks and even at the sea wall
EUC is the way to go. No need to lock it up.
i hope these companies are also factoring in the costs to the environment when all those cheap plastic parts and lithium batteries end up in landfills in about 10 months..
I agree that it would be a shame to sell low quality scooters that don't last, but the unfortunate reality is that cars are so bad for the environment and our city's traffic that even if scooters lasted 10 months, they'd still be a better option to driving a car for your commute!
I m not going to say how many percent at what level and temperature. To keep battery last.
Very experienced in laptop battery. Oh well for some.
The same can be said for all the smartphones and tablets people buy too.
When the rain comes
I love how these are becoming more popular, but the problem is... It's pretty difficult to live in a hilly region like North Vancouver and use an e-scooter when the motor limit is 500w and 24km/h. Scooters capable of going up steep 10% hills without a problem tend to have much stronger/faster motors, which are technically illegal because the MOTOR can't exceed 24km/h. You can't get a stronger motor even if you don't exceed that speed limit.
I just bought a Maxbik l9 in Kelowna, but their main store is in Surrey. It easily goes up 35% grade , dual motor. I paid $1199 locally but I saw them on Amazon Canada for $999 I think it would make it up Lonsdale, you won’t be flying up the hill but it’ll make it.
I know, the regulations piss me off
I ride a scooter that has 4000 watts and goes about 100km/h been riding for about 3 years with no issues from the police
I'm in Toronto and I love my electric motorcycle style ebike
Me too. I have a Daymak Rogue. It's pretty quick.
Better than a bike because you can fold it up and carry it so it doesn't get stolen.
Well, folding bikes also exist and you can take them to public transportation
I wonder what's the reasoning for not allowing e scooters on seawall?
There are bicycle lanes on seawall area right? why are bikes allowed but not seawall?
I have been commuting in Langley for four months now on a scooter, i stick to bike lanes and side streets with no serious problems so far. In areas where the bike lane crosses the right turn lane, i only use the right of way when it is clearly shown with a green lane strip, otherwise I take the turn tight up on to the sidewalk then get off and walk the scooter across the intersection. I am pretty sure this practice has prevented my becoming a human speedbump several times, so i suggest the same to anyone who uses bike lanes on high traffic roads. Nobody cares if you are right, they will run you down and lie about it later.
Love my e-bike that does 41kph but I want a faster one. BTW you can buy e-scooters that do 80kph
Fall off a scooter going 80 and see what happens to you. Bigly dead
The speed limit is being complicated for no reason. It should simply match ebikes. And not easily accessible information, but the speed regulation should apply only to the motor. For escooter thats 32kph max. Ebike motors assist up to 32kph and the rider if they can then peddle away to go faster. Many street cyclists ride around 50kph on peddle alone.
This needs to be normalized across all provinces, and let bylaws restrict where necessary due to special road conditions may exist. It will simplify rules because default rules are provincial, while cities and other municipalities can restrict as they see fit and fair based on street conditions.
The police should start giving tickets to e-scooters and all bicycles on sidewalks. It is getting out of hand in downtown Vancouver especially the bicycles.
Karen
@@xxpatrick204xx Madge
Lol there's not even space to walk on sidewalks in dt.
All of these I get, but is the 16 year old rule enforced? If anybody knows please respond. Thx
It sucks that they only are allowed in some cities
i live here i ride a bicycle and i will follow all bicycle laws until i get pulled over my E scooter is coming in a week or 2
What if you are on a bike lane that ends... but there's no small roads nearby... then you're stuck
Not long before departments put cops on them too.
Get the hell out of the way of progress! Get the gasoline-powered cars off the road and get the e-cars and ebikes on the road!
I live on Ontario and this is a love hate relationship. As a pedestrian, I hate these high speed e-scooter or electrical bikes. I almost got hit so many times walking on sidewalk. As a commuter during pandamic, I don't feel comfortable on the subway. However, the bylaw has not been pass for escooters so I won't get one.
An elderly always complains almost got hit. Once, I ran past an elderly with a very safe distance, but she yelled at me that I almost hit her. The world is full of crazy and grump old people. I hope I won't become one when I get old.
@@edocms lots of out shape, uncordinated people are hitting people with scouters.Have seem many scouter riders annoyed by pedestrians being too slow, ridding their heels, Old people being the slowest, and easiest to injure. Now this is solved for you,, you now can use the road, Biles use the road, no reason you can't. Funny thing when you get old, you might just be one those people moving slowly, they are usually those that avoided exercise ,, just like scouter riders avoid getting a bike which requires having to pedel. .
HA people always on the sea wall with them
I have chronic balance disease
Sport mode is best
I still see them on sidewalks in Kelowna
Stupid bylaws. Electric scooters, bikes, skates should all be allowed on sidewalks, but with lower speed limit. Any healthy person can run faster than 12 km/hr and they are allowed on sidewalks. Think about that.
Too many riders aren't considerate though.
No need to ride on sidewalks, there's plenty of road space that can be reallocated, it just takes political will. Parking enormous vehicles takes more precedence than providing safe space to accomodate fast emerging modes like e-scooters, those are not the kind of priorities we need or can afford to have long term.
human beings colliding is totally different than something with wheels. There are rules for operating wheeled vehicles on the road, there arent rules for sidewalks, it would be absolutely pandemonium if you let everyone and their dog use wheeled vehicles on the sidewalks. People are stupid, especially where they feel safe and there are no rules, all vehicles belong on the road, no matter how small they are.
I agree it’s pretty true this laws don’t make much sense at all haha they suck
Imagine a mode of transport for city commuting that doesn't require a battery, is powered by a human and gives you exercise while you use it, and could take you basically anywhere while carrying things with you. That will be the day when we invent something like that!
It’s not very efficient and most people don’t want a workout and get tired on their commute to work!
Its called a longboard. I use both longboard and e scooters. If I dont want to be sweaty then I go for the e scooter.
Insurance... accountability
Kool👍
No riding on sidewalk where no one uses and instead ride along-side dangerous drivers. Hmm.
When you ride and suddenly people and kids running on to the Sidewalk
Have you saying after getting into nearly missed of Someone end up in hospital.
ROAD is designed to travel fast.
Sidewalks design typical 5 km/h to 15 Km/h jogging speed.
Some forgetting about he or she first few time falling on the sidewalk.
People take dog and cat put for a walk on sidewalk. Not just kids.
By the way you ride full speed on the sidewalk.
Truck driver is not going to see you coming and have proceed Right or Left turn Example Knight S @49. Knight@ 41. Main @ Maine.
Cambie@41. Broadway Vancouver many trick delivery goods.
7 @Main west 4 & West 2.
(Kingsway Vancouver)
Safeway West 4 West 10. Truck driver required to back up via major sidewalk.
80% car Driver is going to see you ride along the same direction on the major same road.
Unfortunately 20% car driver are responsible driver just like EBIKE and Escooter riders.
500 Lumen red light is recommended.
All truck driver is going to see you riding on the road. At 40 km/h - 60 km/h.
@@raymond289 Err I have never sent anyone to the hospital by riding either a bicycle or an escooter on the sidewalk. I will however end up in a hospital 100% if a car hits me while i'm riding on the road and I have had many close calls, so no I ain't riding on the road. Look at Japan for example, how both bicycles and pedestrians shares the sidewalk with no problem. We are so behind. sigh.
@@yondaimehokage2281 you are in North America. Canada. British Columbia 20% driver license was handout by ICBC Examiner.
Japan, Korea, Hong kong and Taiwan. Strict driving rules like most European countries.
50 % of age 30 and young feel proper road lesson is not necessary. That the attitude.
I have drove under age twice in early 90's (1992 - 1995) road are totally different in the time era.
cyclists in Toronto or Vancouver attitude not looking while changing lane. 90% and
What going on ride Bicycles on the wong side of the road.
A dude became smart riding the wrong side in a Major intersection. I slow down abit drove closer to curb as I got cars behind a 5 Ton truck. He end up walking his bicycle on the sidewalk.
Part of not being responsible to ride wrong direction on roadways. Many truck driver will start to enforce this.
@@raymond289 Karen alert.
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An "E-scooter" is a motorized vehicle.
The allowable top speed is 24km/h.
Consider that the scooter can weight 45kg on it's own.
there's no way of telling if a scooter is 45kg. 50kg. Or 60km.
I've seem people double on a "E-scooter"
An entry exam for a license' needs to be required before being allowed to purchase an electric motorized vehicle.
After acquiring an entrance exam 365 license. those things need to be on the road.
Side walks are for Bipedal.
Bike lanes are for Bipedal powered equipment like bikes, skateboards, roller blades, etc.
"E-scooters" and all other vehicles that are electric power need to be kept to the roads with other motorized vehicles.
As somebody who works for ICBC I disagree I don’t think a license should be required for a ESCOOTER using them on the road with cars isn’t something that I suggest for people who are not comfortable with it 24 km an hour maximum speed is slower than the electric bike legal maximum of 30 km an hour and electric bikes don’t require a license to drive technically under the letter of the law electric scooters are classified as a mobility assistant to be classified under the Canadian motor vehicles act as requiring a license it would have to meet the requirements for LPM which is 60 km an hour or more and ICBC would have to be willing to ensure it At this point these might as well of be made legal there are too many of them and they are too comon For otherwise
Karen alarm
And there are plenty of side streets where the bike lanes are so they will be out of the way of car traffic
Uh, how about we expand the space allotted for pedestrians/cycling/other pevs, instead of shoving all three groups into tiny lanes that they have to share with each other, then complain when there's a problem that is obviously easily solvable? Car-centric much...
@@Atite_Lometen the person simply pointed out annoying problems
Get away from the city
Thanks for the AD
Just learn to skateboard plebs
Too poor to afford electric eh? Shoulda stayed in school.
@@xxpatrick204xx Bro, you killed him.
People haven't been able to master cycling or being a pedestrian safely. I'm sure this will work out fine. NOT
Get the heck off the roads
All e-bikes or scooters need to pay insurance and get license
no they do not