Spike Lee On His Issue With 'Soul Man' (1986) | The Dick Cavett Show

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Film Director Spike Lee outlines his issue with the 1986 movie 'Soul Man' in which a white actor depicts a black person with the use of 'black face'
    Date aired - 12/2/1986 - Spike Lee
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    Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
    His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
    Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
    #thedickcavettshow

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  • @connor100wilson
    @connor100wilson 3 роки тому +72

    Spike answered all the "Soulman" questions 14 years later with his movie BAMBOOZLED (2000)

    • @henryphilips6563
      @henryphilips6563 Рік тому +2

      Nice correlation captain

    • @shanenolan085
      @shanenolan085 Рік тому +1

      Good Film 🎥 🎞

    • @bigsassyster
      @bigsassyster 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, he showed them...

    • @AWolfMan75
      @AWolfMan75 5 днів тому

      Actually, I don't think he did, since Bamboozled seemed to focused more on 19th century minstrel shows and television.
      Soul Man was a mediocre 80's comedy and satire film, albeit not a great one, somewhat modeled after Tootsie, that tried to focus on the ridiculousness of racial stereotypes.

  • @LucasVigor
    @LucasVigor 5 місяців тому +1

    Well, it’s just a “ suspension of disbelief “. Of course C Thomas Howell doesn’t really look black . But it’s just a comedy

  • @harshailapakurty
    @harshailapakurty 3 роки тому +1

    So good

  • @sethmeyer2443
    @sethmeyer2443 4 роки тому +136

    it's 2020 and I'm still celebrating the 86 Mets

    • @yztrewq
      @yztrewq 4 роки тому +3

      You're showing your youthful age. I'm still celebrating the 1969 miracle Mets. Now THEY were some heroes! Please don't mistake me for someone who relates to Spike Lee, the most racist person in this country. I definitely don't.

    • @Beforeitsgone00
      @Beforeitsgone00 4 роки тому

      34 years late

    • @dickhartzell6261
      @dickhartzell6261 4 роки тому

      God knows we can't celebrate the 2000 Mets, the 2006 Mets or the 2015 Mets.

    • @ng2603
      @ng2603 4 роки тому +1

      I'm from Boston and still mourning it

    • @waynemontpetit8181
      @waynemontpetit8181 4 роки тому +1

      Long live Mookie

  • @strumdynastygaming7217
    @strumdynastygaming7217 4 роки тому +213

    As others have pointed out, every time a black person is on his show, Dick turns into Michael Scott.

    • @strumdynastygaming7217
      @strumdynastygaming7217 4 роки тому

      Briteone6988 Yeah

    • @HoldenNY22
      @HoldenNY22 3 роки тому +8

      Who's MIchael Scott? Is that the guy from the Office? I never watched the show. Can you please explain your comment?

    • @THEDONSTR8Fightah76
      @THEDONSTR8Fightah76 3 роки тому

      D

    • @qui-gonjinn6060
      @qui-gonjinn6060 3 роки тому +27

      @@HoldenNY22 yes he’s the boss in the office he’s says awkward and inappropriate things and when black people are around Micheal he acts weird

    • @Mike-kv5pl
      @Mike-kv5pl 3 роки тому +2

      @@HoldenNY22 Bingo

  • @erickthefantabulous1
    @erickthefantabulous1 3 роки тому +86

    I didn't realize the Dick cavett show lasted until the eighties Spike Lee you've come a long way man

    • @steveconn
      @steveconn 3 роки тому +5

      He navigated several networks, including CNBC.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому +1

      It had several different iterations.

    • @MS-ns2pj
      @MS-ns2pj 2 роки тому

      Spike has remained a racist and a bigot throughout it all.

    • @lostlakepictures7378
      @lostlakepictures7378 6 місяців тому

      I was just thinking that. When did it go off the air?

  • @mr.regentsdude5621
    @mr.regentsdude5621 4 роки тому +92

    The dude from perfect strangers

    • @roglo06
      @roglo06 4 роки тому +2

      Mr. Regents Dude Yes! Mark-Linn Baker.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd 4 роки тому +6

      Also an accomplished stage actor and he starred opposite Peter O'Toole in the film "My Favorite Year". And he was really good in a Tic-Tac commercial that aired in the early '80s.

    • @AndrewMichel
      @AndrewMichel 4 роки тому +6

      @ Cousin Larry

    • @PDXVoiceTeacher
      @PDXVoiceTeacher 3 роки тому +6

      STAAAAAAAAANDING TAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL!!! ON THE WINGS OFY DREAMMMMMMM!

    • @christinacascadilla4473
      @christinacascadilla4473 3 роки тому

      Mark-Lynn Baker. Probably there to plug “My Favorite Year.”

  • @mikekock927
    @mikekock927 3 роки тому +33

    Saying that Spike Lee is the black Woody Allen is like saying the Earth is flat.

    • @MrBen51309
      @MrBen51309 3 роки тому +7

      In hindsight yeah, in 1986 it probably made sense.

    • @youknowknow2500
      @youknowknow2500 2 роки тому

      The Earth is flat and level just like how water always finds level and has to be contain no matter what you can't do nothing without water unless it's contained and it always finds level and you always see the Sun and the Moon rotated around you along with the Stars you do not ever feel movement no one has ever felt the Earth spinning a thousand plus miles per hour through infinite nothing. Millions of different people around the world know the Earth is flat anybody that does not clearly only going by what they were taught and haven't done any real research on their own that's why you think the Earth is spinning a thousand miles per hour through infinite nothing. Even the fake NASA tells you on there very website that the Earth is flat and Motionless the Holy Bible has over 200 verses that tells you the Earth is flat and motionless and not spinning you can go to any ocean Shoreline and take a Nikon p900 or Nikon p1000 and you consume in any ship that is out of your vision back into your sight with that camera and see flat ocean in front of it because the Earth is flat and Motionless in water always finds level and has to be contained no matter what you do with it see if you can do an experiment with water without containing it or it finding itself unlevel.

    • @NUMBNYFILMS
      @NUMBNYFILMS 2 роки тому +7

      True, spike didint marry his daughter

    • @AlphaJayCharlie
      @AlphaJayCharlie 2 роки тому +1

      Spike Lee is more like a Black Shaun King

    • @josephgriffin2388
      @josephgriffin2388 2 роки тому +3

      I know. Spike Lee films are at least entertaining.

  • @ProfOsmo
    @ProfOsmo 4 роки тому +46

    You gotta give Dick a lot of credit for uploading things like this. Was he perfect? No. But he tried earnestly to understand his fellow man and you can see him grow over the years.
    This is obvious to most fans here, but how great would it be for dick to come back to the game? hed bring such a great vibe to the late night scene.

    • @Geekmasterproduction
      @Geekmasterproduction 4 роки тому +1

      This channel is gonna blow up. All these political correct talk shows are boring, as a 25 year old its interesting to see how talk shows in the past were and I LOVE IT.

    • @buzzkill808raven2
      @buzzkill808raven2 4 роки тому +2

      All I'm going to say, is that Dick really lives up to his name...he's one of the most insidious, unassuming kind of evil

    • @psychedelicfright85
      @psychedelicfright85 3 роки тому +1

      @@buzzkill808raven2 oh shut it dumbass

    • @johnvolkman7208
      @johnvolkman7208 Рік тому

      @@buzzkill808raven2 what the dickens are you talking about?

    • @robertodelosangeles3247
      @robertodelosangeles3247 Рік тому +1

      @@buzzkill808raven2 explain please…

  • @danielgagnon2355
    @danielgagnon2355 3 роки тому +4

    Spike never had a problem when the Wayan Brothers came out with the movie White Chicks 2004 ua-cam.com/video/aeVkbNka9HM/v-deo.html the Hypocrisy from Spike lol

  • @brycewilson1909
    @brycewilson1909 3 роки тому +28

    love dick cavett. he asked real questions other people were curious about but too scared to ask. sure sometimes he came off awkwardly but i appreciate the conversations!

  • @asifsaeedmemon
    @asifsaeedmemon 4 роки тому +51

    1986, meet Rachel Dolezal

  • @jordani0205
    @jordani0205 3 роки тому +6

    America needs to learn how to understand anothers opinion without so much hate. we dont have to like the same thing or have the same values, we just have to respect each other as living beings, thats all, evolution will follow. I see no hate or anger from either person. The only thing i dont like is that Spike Lee was invited to talk about his film and it was derailed by questions about another film to open a debate that people secretly want to have especially back then.

  • @easyriderrider4580
    @easyriderrider4580 3 роки тому +3

    Yeah, I actually Am more interested in what Rae has to say... Spike's stuff was Laughably over the top and cartoonish... Even back in the day, lol...

  • @happydayz7857
    @happydayz7857 4 роки тому +36

    How offensive now to be called the black Woody Allen. Back in the day when it seemed like any prominent black person had to be called ‘The Black So-n-so.’

    • @1234pouvez
      @1234pouvez 4 роки тому +11

      It's offensive now, it was offensive then and it will always be offensive. Had they just said both he and Woody Allen are directors from Brooklyn, that would have been fine. Woody Allen probably wouldn't appreciate being called the Jewish Orson Wells.

    • @buzzkill808raven2
      @buzzkill808raven2 4 роки тому +2

      even more offensive is how dick asks him the question by pretending to not ask it...what a snake

    • @jonnysupreme
      @jonnysupreme 4 роки тому

      Cuz they're second rate

    • @thejonesexperience
      @thejonesexperience 3 роки тому +3

      @@jonnysupreme
      Like your whole lineage..

    • @MrSuperbluesky
      @MrSuperbluesky 3 роки тому

      @@buzzkill808raven2 I thought Dick gave Spike a chance to speak about that horrible comparison made by another. I was surprised how Spike wanted it to rest rather then Highlight it as example.

  • @AnonymousAccount514
    @AnonymousAccount514 3 роки тому +3

    i disagree....there are black people with white features

  • @learnbahasaindonesia3361
    @learnbahasaindonesia3361 3 роки тому +4

    Spike lee condemned the movie without seeing it.
    I don't respect him in this interview.

    • @mr1derful
      @mr1derful 3 роки тому

      I’m sure Spike is losing sleep over it

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому

      The movie isn’t exactly very good.

  • @septimus64
    @septimus64 3 роки тому +4

    And yet we have Rachel Dolezal

  • @jadezee6316
    @jadezee6316 3 роки тому +59

    cavett has never appeared at ease discussing racial issues...here spike gives him a way out before he embarrasses himself beyond repair

    • @bartstarr100
      @bartstarr100 3 роки тому +6

      Bad take.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому +7

      Watch the interview, and note that Cavett wasn't looking for "a way out" of anything - he was looking for honest dialogue.

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 2 роки тому +3

      The only one embarrassing himself is the one being openly racist: Spike Lee.

    • @lizziebkennedy7505
      @lizziebkennedy7505 2 роки тому +1

      @@maestroofamore8948 then why didn’t he bring any of his own? he’s way out of his depth.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому

      @@lizziebkennedy7505
      We can agree that Cavett should've challenged Lee's ridiculous assertions about "Soul Man" and Rae Dawn Chong. I know I would have.

  • @TheKitchenerLeslie
    @TheKitchenerLeslie 3 роки тому +18

    Cousin Larry!? Where's Balki?

    • @jeremiahwoods8200
      @jeremiahwoods8200 2 роки тому

      🤣Balki vs Fez from that 70's show by Smartymcfly Don Liberace my new song on UA-cam

    • @TheKitchenerLeslie
      @TheKitchenerLeslie 2 роки тому

      @@jeremiahwoods8200 What? There's nothing like that on UA-cam.

    • @jeremiahwoods8200
      @jeremiahwoods8200 2 роки тому

      @@TheKitchenerLeslie 🤣 sure it is I recorded the song Blaki vs Fez it'll turn up soon Leslie I guess my page is not so popular,,,take care have a great one

    • @TheKitchenerLeslie
      @TheKitchenerLeslie 2 роки тому

      @@jeremiahwoods8200 I don't understand the point of your post. I searched for it... it doesn't exist. This is a really strange troll.

  • @John-ct9zs
    @John-ct9zs 3 роки тому +72

    Young Spike Lee handled this with class, and Spike even seemed to realize that Dick Cavett is probably a well meaning white dude but just out of touch with racial politics. Cavett was more a man that simply thought "Segregation is bad! Bigots and KKK are bad!", but he was not a man that understood anything beyond that. It was classy of Spike to give Cavett a way out of the topic before it became too embarrassing and overly tense beyond redemption.

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 роки тому +12

      Or maybe he was a man who understands that radical racial politics are divisive BS.

    • @friskydingooo7992
      @friskydingooo7992 3 роки тому +25

      @@jedijones usually a white guy talks like this ,

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar 2 роки тому +9

      Spike was talking with Ego, not intellect. He would try to own anyone who critiqued his film without seeing it. His critique of 'Soul Man' would make a movie like 'White Girls' open game for being labelled "Racist".

    • @Blackman19498
      @Blackman19498 2 роки тому +5

      @@conchobar I don’t know what 🤷‍♂️your point is, ?And I am guessing you don’t know your self

    • @Drjackdempsey9644
      @Drjackdempsey9644 2 роки тому +2

      Shut it. A well-meaning white dude? I hate to burst your bubble but white people do not sit around talking about black people all day and white people are not racist. A very small percentage of white people are racist. Black people are way more racist than white people are and that’s a F fact. You can make a movie called the white men can’t jump and that’s OK but you make a movie called soulman and it’s racist get the fF out of here with that BS.

  • @JEREMY99218
    @JEREMY99218 4 роки тому +6

    Spike Lee totally missed the point of the movie. The message of the movie is clearly ANTI-RACISM and treating people equally. Actress Rae Dawn Chong said of the controversy:
    "It was only controversial because Spike Lee made a thing of it. He'd never seen the movie and he just jumped all over it… He was just starting and pulling everything down in his wake. If you watch the movie, it's really making white people look stupid… [The film] is adorable and it didn't deserve it.…I always tried to be an actor who was doing a part that was a character versus what I call 'blackting,' or playing my race, because I knew that I would fail because I was mixed. I was the black actor for sure, but I didn't lead with my epidermis, and that offended people like Spike Lee, I think. You're either militant or you're not and he decided to just attack. I've never forgiven him for that because it really hurt me. I didn't realize [at the time] that not pushing the afro-centric agenda was going to bite me. When you start to do well people start to say you're a Tom [as in Uncle Tom] because you're acceptable" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Man_(film)

    • @blueblur2273
      @blueblur2273 3 роки тому +1

      I love Spike but he got a history of talking out of his ass.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому +2

      It wasn’t exactly very intellectual or clever most of the movie. It was mainly played for cheap laughs like many other young adult comedy movies tend to be.

  • @teabaganyone7830
    @teabaganyone7830 3 роки тому +3

    So spikes been a male Karen for over 30 years now

  • @mrsmokeydog7830
    @mrsmokeydog7830 4 роки тому +4

    Comedy has different colors and shades and is just that COMEDY. it is not to be taken serious. So it is not an insult to any group of individuals irregardless of race. Unless they choose and decide to make it a serious issue. The Wayan Brothers made a film where they were 2 Black men portraying 2 white girls it was ridiculous but it was COMEDY. So really making an issue and pointing fingers and complaining about all these things is frivolous "Live and let Live". And don't sweat the small stuff.

    • @dreamquesttv
      @dreamquesttv 3 роки тому

      @Kevin L There's so many white people who love White Chicks it's jaw-dropping.

  • @TSquared2001
    @TSquared2001 3 роки тому +15

    Wow. Didn't know Cavett was stilll doing his show during this period.

    • @jaymillymills
      @jaymillymills 3 роки тому

      Me either

    • @briankelleywastaken
      @briankelleywastaken 3 роки тому +1

      He had a line of different talk shows on different networks with his name on it up until about '96.

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому

      In my mind, he was a thing from the 70s (even his logo is from the 70s). I had no idea he was still around when i graduated from high school.

  • @SonofStLouis
    @SonofStLouis 4 роки тому +59

    There was a real case that an Indian student passed himself as black in-order to get in to some Ivy League university ....and he did

    • @davidadams2395
      @davidadams2395 4 роки тому +2

      Well, I can buy that than a white per....oh, Rachel.

    • @TheStranger513
      @TheStranger513 4 роки тому +5

      Much easier to pass off lol.

    • @Targisvear
      @Targisvear 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheStranger513 You cut your hair and done.

    • @EdertheJust
      @EdertheJust 3 роки тому +4

      It was mindy kaling brother.

    • @Targisvear
      @Targisvear 3 роки тому

      "he", "Mindy Kaling". Checks out. Lulwat?

  • @themightyfp
    @themightyfp 3 роки тому +4

    Soul man was racist af!!!!

  • @NoticerOfficial
    @NoticerOfficial 2 роки тому +2

    LMAO!
    not even watching this. idg a F*CK!!! what little spike thinks. and never have.
    Next. Every time his face pops up I send Thomas sowell videos to 10 more people

  • @christopherharper9932
    @christopherharper9932 3 роки тому +35

    I HATE that! "The Black so and so". They may as well say, "The poor man's..." Spike is SPIKE, one of a kind! My man!! Spike was 29 there!

    • @marchdave1
      @marchdave1 3 роки тому +2

      We are humans. And its in our nature to label things. Its how we communicate and make sense of things. I see " the black woody allen" as trying to communicate to other people (mainly white) what type of film make Spike Lee is. I dont rhink we are ever going to not see things in terms of race but hopefully we can understand why we do and not let if feed into our prejudices.

    • @geraldjarvis2115
      @geraldjarvis2115 3 роки тому

      European Americans.

    • @gbmbg114
      @gbmbg114 3 роки тому +1

      I totally understand your point of view here.. However, if I may, I’d like to suggest an alternative way of looking at things. I think the height of creativity and happiness is to NOT label so much. When a person is a full person when we first meet or see them, then we can allow who they actually are to inform our opinions about them. Honestly, and I mean this respectfully, to say “I don’t think we can ever not see race” is kind of a limiting belief about people’s potential. To me, I think the object is to challenge ourselves to rise to the ideal that we seek. If we accept “race” as a label, what wr’re really saying in that moment is “you know how this group is in general, so fill in the gaps that I’m too lazy to fill in about this individual person/circumstance”. That’s not meant to put blame on anyone. It’s just that when you can approach a person or their work for the uniqueness of their offering, we ALL get a richer taste of life. IMHO at least.. an exercise that helped me with this was deciding to refrain from describing people racially in conversation. Reaching for all of the other adjectives at my disposal. With practice, you can learn to focus on other qualities.

    • @mikekock927
      @mikekock927 3 роки тому

      He can’t even watch a movie that he criticizes, he just watched clips from it lol. He did the same thing with Django Unchained.

    • @christopherharper9932
      @christopherharper9932 3 роки тому

      @@marchdave1 uh-huh

  • @Fast_Eddie_
    @Fast_Eddie_ Рік тому +2

    Robert Downey Jr- --- Hold my beer....

  • @christophertracy2807
    @christophertracy2807 2 роки тому +3

    He never had a black guest on without bringing up race. I like him but I never liked that

  • @inkdry101
    @inkdry101 4 роки тому +3

    Worst director ever... Race baiter too.

  • @SuperWilliamholmes
    @SuperWilliamholmes 3 роки тому +10

    Cousin Larry is like "shit's about to get real!'

    • @TheRayvolution
      @TheRayvolution 3 роки тому +3

      “Don’t be ridiculous Cousin Larry.” - Dick Cavette

  • @ATLbench
    @ATLbench 3 роки тому +13

    Eddie Murphy did a skit about being white and it was hilarious! Comedy at its best is meant to provoke.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому +5

      Soul Man wasn’t exactly the best example of that. The comedy was mainly low-hanging fruit seen in many other movies targeted towards its demographic.

    • @ATLbench
      @ATLbench 2 роки тому

      @@RocStarr913 whatever. It’s a double standard. Making fun of stereotypes is fair game it’s a crucial part of comedy in general. And the reason is that it’s often got some truth to it.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 Рік тому +3

      @@ATLbench No, it isn’t. White people, and especially white men, still have power and advantage a lot of people in society don’t. Black people in whiteface simply does not cause the same level of actual potential harm to white people as a whole the way white people in blackface would because black people are often treated as the other in society.

    • @justbstalk9846
      @justbstalk9846 Рік тому +1

      @@RocStarr913 I agree that the finish lines for black people and white people are different and it simply isn’t the same but the irony of the “blackface” dialogue is that a lot of racists during the 1920s and 1930s hated minstrels for exposing white audiences to jazz. Al Jolson, who was probably the most successful minstrel, was also Jewish and his views on civil rights were very progressive because he recognized that he owed his success to black entertainers.

  • @MediaSock
    @MediaSock 3 роки тому +6

    6:03 "could nobody make a film in which a black man is played by a white man & getaway with it?"
    , Yes, yes they can, Tropic Thunder, Robert Downey Junior.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому +4

      For that matter, Soul Man "got away with it" too, earning back nearly *8 TIMES* its budget. Not a bad ROI.

    • @marianotorrespico2975
      @marianotorrespico2975 2 роки тому +2

      @@maestroofamore8948 --- CORRECT. | "Soul Man" (1986) was made for white suburbanites, like the protagonist. If you try hard enough, you might find excuses and justifications for "The Birth of a Nation" (1915), analogously, "Tropic Thunder" (2008) deliberately ridiculed that practise of racist misrepresentation.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому +3

      @@marianotorrespico2975
      I'll leave it to you to "find excuses & justifications for The Birth of a Nation" if you're so inclined, but Soul Man was primarily targeted toward the 18 to 35 year-old demographic, a not-insignificant percentage of which is composed of persons of color, which were represented to some degree in the cast. Tropic Thunder deliberately ridiculed "method actors" as it flaunted the squeamish expectations of contemporary "virtue-signalers".

    • @marianotorrespico2975
      @marianotorrespico2975 2 роки тому

      @@maestroofamore8948 --- You have proved my point, by going off-topic.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому

      @@marianotorrespico2975
      Nope, but you're either failing to read or failing to comprehend the topic, or both. Either way, best of luck to you.

  • @welchce
    @welchce 3 роки тому +9

    Staff Sergeant Lincoln Osiris has entered the chat...

  • @Orf
    @Orf 3 роки тому +5

    10:15 as an artist you’re walking a tight rope

  • @bluestate69
    @bluestate69 4 роки тому +29

    Spike Lee is a genius. He is far more than just a "black" director.

  • @ndeamonk24
    @ndeamonk24 3 роки тому +9

    Spike been THERE!!!!
    💯💯💯

  • @catherinevalli6830
    @catherinevalli6830 2 роки тому +2

    yada, yada, yada ...i'm offended. smoke a joint, spike.

  • @christopherharper9932
    @christopherharper9932 3 роки тому +51

    The Golden Age of the Spike Lee joint, miss those days

    • @filmtoppings
      @filmtoppings 3 роки тому +1

      I still think Spike is at his A game

    • @123brendan12
      @123brendan12 3 роки тому +1

      He’s back to his best imo. He’s on quite a roll

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому

      @@123brendan12 I haven't seen one of his in probably decades. Checked out around 25th Hour. Guess i'll have to check back in on him. Any recent recommendations?

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому +1

      @@osamanoor1570 thanks! I remember Black Klansman looking good.

  • @SuperWilliamholmes
    @SuperWilliamholmes 3 роки тому +3

    Cousin Larry!

  • @WhiteNinjaProductions
    @WhiteNinjaProductions 3 роки тому +3

    I watched Eddie Murphy play white and thought it was great, although not real at all.

    • @bryb2644
      @bryb2644 3 роки тому +3

      ??? I’m trying to pay for this newspaper.
      What are you doing??? Just take it.

  • @christophertracy2807
    @christophertracy2807 2 роки тому +2

    This is before Lee became crazy and annoying

  • @swpo1
    @swpo1 4 роки тому +38

    Spike Lee right here is cool and chill. Nowadays he got his finger in everybody's Kool aid and just overall having a attitude where he thinks his opinions really matter. But then again......
    .........who am I?

    • @mrHoppedupford
      @mrHoppedupford 4 роки тому +3

      Dudes never been cool.

    • @toiletsinjapan9933
      @toiletsinjapan9933 4 роки тому

      @@mrHoppedupford Which celebrities are? Other than the ones you know personally, of course. Very few people act the same when their opinions suddenly start to matter to millions of people.

    • @riverc.820
      @riverc.820 4 роки тому +5

      LOL. That's what people said back then.

    • @ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io
      @ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io 4 роки тому +1

      I admire your humility.

    • @blueblur2273
      @blueblur2273 3 роки тому

      @@riverc.820 Exactly. Spike's always been like that

  • @larrytan73
    @larrytan73 2 роки тому +2

    Spike Lee's favorite movie is white chicks

  • @isaacmartinez6904
    @isaacmartinez6904 4 роки тому +41

    Discussion on Soul Man 4:23

    • @JC_wonderland
      @JC_wonderland 3 роки тому +1

      The real MVP thank you

    • @allenscott68
      @allenscott68 3 роки тому +1

      Zulu swashbuckler.
      1018miamidrive I remember this movie and I would have said the same thing but now that I'm older and know better this shite was offensive just like tropic thunder🗣‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️

    • @mrleroyskillet800
      @mrleroyskillet800 3 роки тому

      @@allenscott68 Yes

  • @Orf
    @Orf 3 роки тому +2

    5:00 “attack on affirmative action....I didn’t see the film...I don’t have to see it...I’ve seen clips”

  • @theshark84724
    @theshark84724 3 роки тому +6

    Dick was a special person. He was spontaneous and reserved. I sure wish my name was Dick tho

  • @zyxwut321
    @zyxwut321 11 місяців тому +1

    In 1986, a young black man couldn't tell a genial but clueless older white man off on national TV and have his career survive so Spike knew he had to keep his cool.

  • @justintime1343
    @justintime1343 3 роки тому +6

    Spike Lee pretends that Soul Man was intended to be serious. It's called "comedy", dude. And it wasn't a bad movie.

    • @johnst3296
      @johnst3296 3 роки тому +6

      He was years ahead of his time at hyping up phony outrage....

    • @muffdiver240
      @muffdiver240 3 роки тому +5

      True Dat, @@johnst3296!

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 роки тому +4

      @@johnst3296 Yeah the far left of the '60s-'90s has succeeded at making their radical opinions part of the mainstream left of today. And we are all suffering for it.

    • @justintime1343
      @justintime1343 3 роки тому +4

      No doubt, @@jedijones.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому

      If it was serious, it would have likely been a better movie. The comedy is what made it just a missed opportunity. It played its risqué concept mainly for cheap laughs.

  • @valvemedia
    @valvemedia 3 роки тому +2

    The guy didn’t see it. He can’t …..

  • @midlwestern3237
    @midlwestern3237 3 роки тому +6

    I must have a completely distorted view of how standards of racial sensetivity were in the 1980s... wouldn't the question/answer be : "What's the problem with 'Soul Man?'..... IT'S BLACKFACE!!!!"

    • @albertcovington9942
      @albertcovington9942 3 роки тому +4

      My guess is you haven't seen the film?

    • @midlwestern3237
      @midlwestern3237 3 роки тому +1

      @@albertcovington9942 like Spike lee, I have not watched the film and will not watch it. The preview makes it crystal clear that it is a movie about a guy who dresses up in black face to attempt to get an African-American scholarship. why would anyone need to watch any more of that to understand why it's terrible?

    • @MrBen51309
      @MrBen51309 3 роки тому +3

      Don't watch Tropic Thunder then, if you think blackface is completely unacceptable in every context.

    • @VinnieBoombatz374
      @VinnieBoombatz374 3 роки тому +3

      Believe it or not, this movie wasn't actually that controversial in the '80s and grossed a lot of money. It was a hit. Me and all my friends saw it as kids (I'm black) and never considered that what we were watching was blackface. I was so young though that I probably didn't know what blackface was yet, but the adults around me didn't seem to have a problem with it either. It actually is a very funny movie, I think it's much more controversial now than it was back then.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому

      The blackface is the tip of the iceberg. The ultimate issue is it’s just another dumb young adult comedy.

  • @josephgriffin2388
    @josephgriffin2388 2 роки тому +1

    So he had a problem with C. Thomas Howell's portrayal of a black man...... but having a man of color portray A. Hamilton is a blockbuster play.
    Whateves....

  • @bartstarr100
    @bartstarr100 3 роки тому +3

    People who don’t like uncomfortable questions think he’s clueless. Mohammed Ali was one of his best friends. But you all go ahead with you gibberish fest created from your own shallow minds.

  • @darkestknight4159
    @darkestknight4159 Рік тому +1

    As usual Spike let's his own prejudice and racism cloud his judgement just like the movie Soul Man explored in people's reaction to the main character of the film which was the whole point of the movie Spike. Watch it and you might learn something

  • @bizzyrizzy4025
    @bizzyrizzy4025 3 роки тому +19

    Ya gotta understand, Dick is from NE. I am from NE. This is how most from either Lincoln and/or Omaha speak to each other. It’s not condescending in anyway. Dick is coming from a place of endearment. All he is trying to do is to understand Spike. He is speaking the quintessential, dry, inquisitive tone that we Nebraskans all have in some degree.

    • @FAMc81
      @FAMc81 2 роки тому

      Interesting.. thanks for sharing.

    • @kevhos1000
      @kevhos1000 2 роки тому

      There is no endearment here because this tone is too common from white people who are underline prejudice. People who are on the opposite side of prejudice is never understand

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому

      You nailed it, bizzy rizzy. Cavett as always, is utterly polite & respectful here - questioning Lee's bias without ever criticizing it.

    • @lizziebkennedy7505
      @lizziebkennedy7505 2 роки тому

      @@maestroofamore8948 You are a bigot.

    • @Outlawgirl63
      @Outlawgirl63 10 місяців тому +1

      Marlon Brando was from Nebraska too and he never acted like he was afraid of black people or looked uncomfortable around us .

  • @pulse4503
    @pulse4503 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh come on! I am European, so prolly I perceive the film differently, but apparently the message the flick wanted to convey failed to get to Mr Lee....
    I think it was a positive message, prolly it promoted interracial relationship as the best way to overcome racism, but this is from 1986, so Spike must have gotten it right now ! 😊

    • @pulse4503
      @pulse4503 4 місяці тому +1

      He is focusing on the makeup thing which ain't the most important thing at all !
      But again,as a white man living on the other side of the pond, I see it differently

  • @jamespotter3660
    @jamespotter3660 4 роки тому +14

    for a typically smooth interviewer, the first few minutes of this interview are pretty awkward.

  • @hulenbryant5637
    @hulenbryant5637 Рік тому +1

    Wow, condemning a film that he's never seen. Pathetic "I've seen clips..". What a joke.

  • @joshm2690
    @joshm2690 4 роки тому +4

    The film was fine and funny . The Wayons brothers made "White Chicks" where they did white face AND played a woman ..Im sure spike was furious . NOT ! lol

    • @CarolinaDoc
      @CarolinaDoc 4 роки тому

      Do you know if he had a problem with the film or you just pulling the double standard card? Just asking because I don't know.

    • @joshm2690
      @joshm2690 4 роки тому +1

      @@CarolinaDoc I am saying it is a double standard . Not pulling a card . He is pulling the race card , yes . I am saying he only cares about black face when the wayans brothers do white girl face . Where is is outrage . I guess what people should be outraged for people doing White face like the Wayans brothers did .

    • @joshm2690
      @joshm2690 4 роки тому +1

      @@CarolinaDoc It is what it is . Read up and read the title . If "double standard " are your words from what I said then it clearly is to you .

  • @cinemar
    @cinemar 3 роки тому +2

    I'll watch Soul Man before I watch any of Spike Lee's preachy bullshit films.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому

      That’s a shame. Do The Right Thing is one of the greatest movies of the 1980’s.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому +1

      @@RocStarr913
      "Do The Right Thing" is overrated; "Soul Man's" better.

  • @TheSonnyjim1000
    @TheSonnyjim1000 3 роки тому +3

    They should make soul man part 2 with Rachel Dolezal and Megan Markle. Soul Woman!

  • @mikegriffin104
    @mikegriffin104 2 роки тому +2

    F spike lee

  • @mobus1603
    @mobus1603 3 роки тому +16

    If Spike Lee had actually watched the film "Soul Man", he would've known that it wasn't an attack on affirmative action. In fact, it wound up showing the exact opposite with how important affirmative action was, how damaging what C. Thomas Howell did was, and that he truly regretted it and did everything he could to rectify his actions. There certainly were other reasons to criticize the film, because it's pretty bad, but Spike's just wrong on that point.

    • @davidjames579
      @davidjames579 3 роки тому +5

      But the characters would have to be idiots to think C Thomas Howell is Black.

    • @mobus1603
      @mobus1603 3 роки тому +1

      @@davidjames579: I do agree with that.

    • @chloe2501
      @chloe2501 2 роки тому +1

      He probably shouldn't did it it's kind of like doing blackface

    • @carltonbanks5470
      @carltonbanks5470 2 роки тому +1

      Did the C Thomas Howell character face any consequences for doing what he did?

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 2 роки тому

      @@carltonbanks5470 Not really, but it didn’t exactly heighten his career.

  • @epictetusofhierapolis4461
    @epictetusofhierapolis4461 3 роки тому +2

    No need to be offended by Soul Man. If it's not funny, then it's not funny, but offensive? please.

  • @mizzury54
    @mizzury54 4 роки тому +43

    I loved that first movie " She's gotta have it " Great work !

    • @comedianjwatch
      @comedianjwatch 4 роки тому

      Then you must see the Series on Netflix. Everything he didn't do in the movie he did in the show

    • @RayPaganJr
      @RayPaganJr 2 роки тому +3

      I remember taking my girlfriend at the time, a short Jewish Jersey girl and I walked in and we were the whitest couple there. We totally enjoyed it and I’ve been a fan of his ever since. Damn, that was a lifetime ago. Do The Right Thing is one of my favorite movies, as well as Mo’ Better Blues.

  • @arthurwatt4144
    @arthurwatt4144 3 роки тому +2

    He was right. Soul man was pretty racist.

  • @sjw4life546
    @sjw4life546 3 роки тому +4

    The most awkward interview ever

  • @sammavacaist
    @sammavacaist 3 роки тому +1

    I like Dick Cavett but he was definitely a white man of his time.

  • @2011Savere
    @2011Savere 3 роки тому +3

    To me Spike doesn't explain himself good.

  • @72soul
    @72soul Рік тому +1

    Spike was woke way before sleeping comments spoke. And that's the truth, Ruth.

  • @nickboot8603
    @nickboot8603 3 роки тому +7

    In terms of intelligence and social impact Spike was always the logical successor to Malcolm X in the 90s

    • @dannyhustle2599
      @dannyhustle2599 3 роки тому +3

      Nope not even close. Spike lee just like hypocrite Hollywood celeb

    • @cadillaccalhoun3516
      @cadillaccalhoun3516 3 роки тому

      Please! What are you smoking 😂😂😂

    • @ricomajestic
      @ricomajestic 3 роки тому +1

      Yea right! Haha. Malcolm was an intellectual and way smarter than Spike!

    • @Outlawgirl63
      @Outlawgirl63 10 місяців тому +1

      80s

  • @kaguth
    @kaguth 4 роки тому +39

    Did he give RDJ a pass though? He did admit it was part execution and Topic Thunder was much better executed.

    • @EZ-IZZY1995
      @EZ-IZZY1995 4 роки тому +3

      kaguth well that was 22 years later too

    • @kaguth
      @kaguth 4 роки тому +17

      @@EZ-IZZY1995 Yeah, I'm not trying to criticize him. I'm honestly just curious why people are less mad or more mad at something that is kind of the same. I think the details make the difference, and like Spike said no one would really think C Thomas was black in Soul Man, but in Tropic thunder everyone knew he was white, which I think helps and adds to the self aware irony.

    • @EZ-IZZY1995
      @EZ-IZZY1995 4 роки тому +10

      kaguth Exactly. White Chicks is the same deal; everyone pretty much knew that the makeup was bad and the voices sucked and the main characters were even baffled at how they pulled off their disguises. Soul Man though....”white man cant get in to prestigious law school so he pretends (horribly) to be black to do it” is just a weird concept for a movie

    • @lynxminx4
      @lynxminx4 4 роки тому +24

      Thematically, Soul Man depicts a white person trying to take a black person's spot and becoming a fish out of water. While you could frame RDJ in Tropic Thunder as a white person trying to take a black person's spot, the comedic angle is completely different- his character isn't funny because he's a 'fish out of water', he's funny because he is so arrogant and narrowly focused on his craft he is blind to the impact he is having on his audience....and to the fact that the explosions and gunfire around him are now real....and to everything else except himself.

    • @riverc.820
      @riverc.820 4 роки тому +6

      I simply listen to what another person has to say and consider their perspective instead of asking for some sort of checklist or litmus. Think about the context of when that movie came out. it's not even 20 years after the civil rights act has passed and not a lot has changed for black America. Its a clueless movie, not directly racist, but the Reagan era in general really missed this country up from moving forward.

  • @dennisrobbins7857
    @dennisrobbins7857 3 роки тому +15

    Cavett's discomfort is painful to see, he's not really asking questions that are edgy, he's just asking the questions in an uncomfortable, edgy manner.... weird actually

    • @mr1derful
      @mr1derful 3 роки тому +1

      “Maybe they cast idiot black people” I think Cavett had some serious racial issues back in the day

    • @bartstarr100
      @bartstarr100 3 роки тому

      Gibberish

    • @bartstarr100
      @bartstarr100 3 роки тому

      @@mr1derful more gibberish

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 3 роки тому +1

      @@mr1derful He was making a joke. Not a funny one but he tried. LOL

  • @jamiestuart5186
    @jamiestuart5186 4 роки тому +4

    Always the masonic hand gesture before proceeding. Creepy. Such a horrid little secret society type.

    • @pietrocristoforo2049
      @pietrocristoforo2049 4 роки тому +3

      very creepy jamie...he is a reptilian flat earther, you got it right jamie!

  • @theoriginalthinker9199
    @theoriginalthinker9199 3 роки тому +4

    The beginning of the end for black people started right here. spike lee whining about something. Black people been whining about something ever since.

  • @seanfrank32
    @seanfrank32 3 роки тому +3

    It's called comedy, Spike. But if you must criticize a film at least watch it

  • @sannimcable
    @sannimcable 3 роки тому +4

    Spike Lee seems like a cool 😎

  • @kensscalemodels3263
    @kensscalemodels3263 2 роки тому +1

    How is this movie different than White Chicks with the Wayne's brothers because there black? Double Standard.

    • @maestroofamore8948
      @maestroofamore8948 2 роки тому

      Did Spike Lee have anything to do with the film "White Chicks"? If not, then where's the "double standard"?

  • @L0r3n2
    @L0r3n2 4 роки тому +18

    It's in freakin' blackface whoever made that film should get slapped

    • @fuckamericanidiot
      @fuckamericanidiot 3 роки тому +2

      Why?

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 Рік тому

      Spike Lee made a movie himself with blackface characters. Should HE be slapped? No, because he attempted to use it to make an intellectual point. Soul Man merely used blackface to shock and for cheap laughs.

  • @petermaxwell2965
    @petermaxwell2965 3 роки тому +1

    Looks like a young herbie hancock ..

  • @eseterik78
    @eseterik78 3 роки тому +4

    Larry Appleton just chillin.....

    • @APisceanSlant
      @APisceanSlant 3 роки тому +1

      Until the discussion about Hollywood Squares & Love Boat, lol. Would have loved for the camera to pan to him, as Spike was talking about the fate of one-hit wonders

  • @flynt15
    @flynt15 10 місяців тому +1

    Like I care what Spike Lee thinks

  • @MrKjames711
    @MrKjames711 3 роки тому +8

    Can Dick sound more condescending in his introduction? I don’t know, I’m pretty young-was that his thing?

  • @barfyman-dm6zx
    @barfyman-dm6zx Рік тому +2

    🤘🤘I'm just over here patiently waiting for 'Soulman 2: Black by Popular Demand' to come out🤘🤘

  • @StannisHarlock
    @StannisHarlock 3 роки тому +13

    It would be awesome to talk to Dick Cavett.

  • @atrocchia
    @atrocchia 3 роки тому +3

    Soul Man is a boring film.

    • @MrBen51309
      @MrBen51309 3 роки тому

      Yeah it fucking sucks! At least people like Chris Lilley are actually funny when they blacken up.

  • @Clifffields
    @Clifffields 2 роки тому +2

    Sheeeeeesh

  • @danjwalker
    @danjwalker 4 роки тому +11

    Lee's second film, School Daze, made $14,545,844 against a $6,000,000 budget so he did ok : ) 12:07

    • @wwbuirkle
      @wwbuirkle 3 роки тому +1

      Outside of do the right thing i don't care for this race baiter's movies

    • @123brendan12
      @123brendan12 3 роки тому +3

      @@wwbuirkle keep crying loser... I swear you want to be persecuted so badly😭

    • @wwbuirkle
      @wwbuirkle 3 роки тому +1

      @@123brendan12 Who's crying genius.You're not even making any sense dummy

    • @seang3019
      @seang3019 3 роки тому +1

      @@wwbuirkle He Got Game is the worst example of that I've seen. Malcolm X however is IMHO his masterpiece.

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому

      @@wwbuirkle Calling someone a race baiter is race baiting.

  • @mikemc5221
    @mikemc5221 Рік тому +1

    Spikes a bigot anyways.

  • @martindeewan686
    @martindeewan686 4 роки тому +6

    And then we had White Chicks in 2004 and probably there will be a White Chicks 2 in the future.

    • @susandaniel7432
      @susandaniel7432 4 роки тому +6

      I have said that a million times, too! Why can the Wayan Brothers do White Chicks and it's funny. But if a white person puts on black face, it's racist. Double standards! I remember when Eddie Murphy put on a white face and played an old Jewish man on SNL. Don't get me wrong, I think it's hilarious! But I hate the double standard.

    • @ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io
      @ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io 4 роки тому +10

      Susan Daniel Because blackface has a history of cultural theft, ridicule, and persecution. Whiteface doesn’t.

    • @KaimonJRE
      @KaimonJRE 4 роки тому +2

      @@ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io Blackface has a history of cultural theft?? This makes no sense whatsoever.

    • @ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io
      @ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io 4 роки тому

      KaimonJRE C’est la vie.
      www.baylor.edu/mediacommunications/news.php?action=story&story=204045
      www.google.com/amp/s/www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/amp24132841/megyn-kelly-blackface-comment-response-racist-halloween-costumes/
      www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/dram_a_00853?journalCode=dram

    • @KaimonJRE
      @KaimonJRE 4 роки тому +2

      @@ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io That is neither theft or appropriation. No one wants to be black.

  • @pulse4503
    @pulse4503 4 місяці тому +1

    Great film

  • @famousbowl9926
    @famousbowl9926 3 роки тому +11

    Its CRAZY how many years and eras of talkshow he had

  • @ryansteve2893
    @ryansteve2893 Рік тому +1

    You boomers are so awkward

  • @stevemalek2970
    @stevemalek2970 3 роки тому +10

    I like the movie Soul Man and it does have a good universal message at the end. I think Spike Lee should give it a chance and not condemn it so quickly.

  • @koustuvdas1225
    @koustuvdas1225 3 роки тому +1

    Dick Cavett looks somewhat like Paul Bettany

  • @newfrontierfilms6314
    @newfrontierfilms6314 3 роки тому +5

    Dick Cavett was always nervous around black folk. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому

      Dick Cavett is about as white as they come.

  • @MicDeluxx
    @MicDeluxx 3 роки тому +2

    Dick Cavett was a chump.

  • @timtalton1709
    @timtalton1709 4 роки тому +3

    I liked the movie 34 years ago when i was 22. I never met(s) a black person in my life until i went into the service. Shenendehowa high school, clifton park, ny. Class of '81

    • @knowitall3892
      @knowitall3892 3 роки тому

      Dam I was born 93

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому

      Yup, i never met a black person until after high school. There wasn't a single black person that lived in my town, or any of the surrounding small towns, and we were only a half hour from St. Louis, on the Illinois side. People were pretty racist there, including some of my parent's friends, but my mom was good on the topic, so we grew up without any glaring prejudices. So even in the best of circumstances, it was all too easy to grow into attitudes like Dick Cavett's here- the well intentioned but ignorant white person

    • @center8922
      @center8922 3 роки тому

      @@kdkseven @Tim Talton What about the mailmen?

    • @kdkseven
      @kdkseven 3 роки тому +1

      @@center8922 i grew up in a small town, population 3200. There was not a single black person living in our town until i was a senior in high school.