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  • @syrobe
    @syrobe  5 місяців тому +58

    ARMOR TIERLIST ua-cam.com/video/C0R9MDf271Q/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
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    0:00 All 21 Black Myth Wukong Weapons
    0:21 Tier List Ranking Criteria
    1:15 D TIER WEAPONS
    2:40 C TIER WEAPONS
    4:38 LOW B TIER
    7:40 HIGH B TIER
    11:35 LOW A TIER
    17:00 HIGH A TIER
    30:00 S TIER WEAPONS
    40:40 NEXT VIDEO

    • @kaint8974
      @kaint8974 5 місяців тому

      Hey so I don't remember exactly what I did, but I managed to get the dark iron staff way back in like chapter 2 of my ng+ playthrough so you don't have to go all the way to the chapter 5 secret area to get it

    • @MFDOOM..
      @MFDOOM.. 4 місяці тому

      Can you rank all the armor sets?

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  4 місяці тому

      @@MFDOOM.. already on it!

    • @MFDOOM..
      @MFDOOM.. 4 місяці тому

      @@syrobe Let’s Go! Can’t wait to see it

    • @abdaabda
      @abdaabda 4 місяці тому

      Spell ranking when

  • @mediumtext8038
    @mediumtext8038 5 місяців тому +571

    No Yin Tigers were harmed in the process of making this video

    • @BigScoDDogg
      @BigScoDDogg 4 місяці тому +11

      I just finally beat him today he is a tier 1 boss 😂😂

    • @femiairboy94
      @femiairboy94 4 місяці тому +18

      Every time his health goes down to 10% he goes bat shit crazy

    • @TheDestinedOne789
      @TheDestinedOne789 4 місяці тому +2

      @@BigScoDDoggfr lol

    • @IronLung90
      @IronLung90 3 місяці тому +1

      YIN TIGER LIVES MATTER protest coming up

    • @abdulrahmanmohammed9712
      @abdulrahmanmohammed9712 2 місяці тому

      Fr

  • @natecward8322
    @natecward8322 5 місяців тому +917

    I wish there were more staffs that did status effect damage

    • @SiverFangBlackWing
      @SiverFangBlackWing 5 місяців тому +96

      I wish most equipment that did didn’t require being affected by that status.

    • @vjmasta3809
      @vjmasta3809 5 місяців тому +6

      @@SiverFangBlackWing exactly bro, it was okay if there was something like in elden ring where you can force yourself to be in that status through items.

    • @ChidiGaming
      @ChidiGaming 5 місяців тому

      @@vjmasta3809you can use gourds to do it for poison but I get what you mean

    • @SaviorsChild
      @SaviorsChild 5 місяців тому +9

      I wish I could use best stance in game outside of one chaptwr

    • @ZeroOmega-vg8nq
      @ZeroOmega-vg8nq 5 місяців тому +14

      ​@@SaviorsChildif youre talking about the wukong stance you can use it when all the relic slots are awakened. use the full monkey king armor set and the jingu bang. use a level 4 heavy and you activate the wukong stance for aboht 60 seconds

  • @PANCAKEPAP1
    @PANCAKEPAP1 5 місяців тому +534

    The spear your get from Erlang is INSANE. Especially when paired with the relic that has your clones mimic your special abilities - you get to shoot a TON of spears lol

    • @ridatego438
      @ridatego438 5 місяців тому +64

      EXACTLY. This weapon is being slept on

    • @PANCAKEPAP1
      @PANCAKEPAP1 5 місяців тому +16

      @ridatego438 the spear barrage adds a little extra dmg too which is great. If the boss is one shot away, the spears will chip away at the health lol

    • @ridatego438
      @ridatego438 5 місяців тому +15

      @PANCAKEPAP1 yeah, I also use it as projectiles if the boss is out of reach. Still does decent damage. Also, foreseeing the enemy in this stance is just way too satisfying. I'm at ng++ and it still humbles all bosses

    • @ridatego438
      @ridatego438 5 місяців тому +6

      @Kavoshio who said it was? For me it's the most fun

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  5 місяців тому +107

      No the clones do not and cannot shoot the special weapon. thats not how it works

  • @dr_slim_shady
    @dr_slim_shady 5 місяців тому +411

    As a Chinese, using anything other than JinGuBang gives me the vibe of an Italian adding pineapple to pizza or adding ketchup to pasta lol.

    • @XuHaochengRyanHshs
      @XuHaochengRyanHshs 4 місяці тому +30

      Me too. after getting it, I literally never used another weapon again.

    • @fightinggamesexplained453
      @fightinggamesexplained453 4 місяці тому +10

      LMAO this is hilarious.

    • @XuHaochengRyanHshs
      @XuHaochengRyanHshs 4 місяці тому +2

      @@fightinggamesexplained453 whats so funny.

    • @fightinggamesexplained453
      @fightinggamesexplained453 4 місяці тому +33

      @@XuHaochengRyanHshs it was a funny comparison. I appreciated it because I know EXACTLY what the OP means by this. I can see how using the mythical Ruyi Jingu Bang would be a must for anyone who knows the significance of this story, but especially those that might have grown up with it as a part of their culture. :)

    • @XuHaochengRyanHshs
      @XuHaochengRyanHshs 4 місяці тому +3

      @@fightinggamesexplained453 I see.

  • @danielscearce9350
    @danielscearce9350 5 місяців тому +32

    A cool thing for min/maxing is that the dark iron staff retains base damage from when it’s equipped. So after equipping it you can switch from max defense gear to max damage/crit gear for huge stats

    • @wolfmoon222
      @wolfmoon222 5 місяців тому +2

      did not know that! I do that with curious when using spell binder so that makes sense!

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Місяць тому

      Thx
      Spell binder works also like that put stamina and mana stats in activate it to get dmg from all ur mana and crit from stamina then change it

  • @yichenji5644
    @yichenji5644 5 місяців тому +48

    It is worth mentioning that the two spear staff's hidden buff. The heavy attacks will break the light attack moves. Heavy follow light has to finish the light animation with all other staff. Only with the two spear staffs does the heavy following light go out the right way. When you are using the two spear staff, see-through is much, much, much easier.

    • @AllDayErrDay.
      @AllDayErrDay. 4 місяці тому +9

      Exactly. How nobody else is mentioning this is insane. Not just varied combos but also dodging immediately cancels light attack animations with the spears.

    • @klockworks17
      @klockworks17 3 місяці тому +1

      I noticed instantly when i unlocked the first spear that see throughs were so much easier to time and pull off. Animations are way tighter and can and shorter, i was able to resolute strike almost on demand.

  • @ethan_ls
    @ethan_ls 5 місяців тому +61

    before i got a hang of the game and started min-maxing my build, the golden loong staff was a lot of fun, the shock went crazy with pluck of many. then i realized how much better smash stance is lol.

    • @thejoaquindead9515
      @thejoaquindead9515 5 місяців тому +25

      Smash stance really is just the best. The other two are more about filling specific, usually more defensive roles.

    • @ethan_ls
      @ethan_ls 5 місяців тому +1

      @@thejoaquindead9515 resolute strike ftw

    • @coltizz
      @coltizz 5 місяців тому +4

      I’ve played trough the entire game and I thought it was a good game in terms of combat lore etc. But in terms of customization and gear it’s a c minus. Just look at Wu Longs different armor sets, ability’s, while the game itself was definitely worse. Its build verity was so much better and interesting that I did play new game + there just because I wanted to try them out. In Wukong when you get the final armor you are just retarded for not using it and handicapping yourself. Every piece has bonus stats that no other armor have. Personally I see absolutely no reason at all to play new game +… Killing the same bosses wearing the same items ? Nha I’m good.

    • @ethan_ls
      @ethan_ls 5 місяців тому +8

      @@coltizz respect the opinion but i personally feel there are lots of viable options, yaksha set, bull king set, gale guard set, pilgrim set, you can build around anything imo, just depends on how you want to play. I will say once you get the jingubang there’s not really an on par option until ng+, but i personally love ng+ in every game. Syrobe said it perfectly on stream the other day, it’s like a victory lap once you beat the game and can just let loose. Everyone plays differently tho at the end of the day

    • @coltizz
      @coltizz 5 місяців тому

      @@ethan_ls You Said it yourself once you get the last Jingubang staff it makes everything else shit in comparison. And that’s just bad customized in my opinion in terms of verity. I mean the sets are still kinda meh. There are no fire sets, there are no ice/water set, the poison one is a joke. You don’t feel like they missed an opportunity to include more cool armor and weapons?

  • @gtgameguides3354
    @gtgameguides3354 5 місяців тому +29

    The Bishui Beast Staff is a "bane" weapon for the Chapter 5 boss. Fun fact for those that didn't know, can really help while taking him on

    • @brendodo9319
      @brendodo9319 4 місяці тому +1

      Does this just mean there are voicelines of redboy acknowledging it, or does it have some hidden effect?

    • @gtgameguides3354
      @gtgameguides3354 4 місяці тому +8

      @@brendodo9319 My memory was that each chapter rewarded the player with an item for completing side quests that help with final boss. Chapter 1 (Fireproof Mantle), 2 (Wind Tamer), 3 (Spellbinder), 4 (Weaver's Needle), 5 (Bishui Beast Staff)

  • @Boomer1665
    @Boomer1665 4 місяці тому +8

    Great vid that actually shows when the earliest time you can obtain each staff is. Thank you for putting this much effort in

  • @ccboy3960
    @ccboy3960 5 місяців тому +72

    It makes sense story wise why you need to do the game 3 times (full power relics = full power wukong) but tbh… 3 secret endings…. That’s ridiculous you should just have a permanent 4th stance if you wear most of / the full wukong outfit. Maybe with a small skill tree

    • @mohams151
      @mohams151 4 місяці тому +1

      Completely agree

    • @ulrikahaggard9923
      @ulrikahaggard9923 4 місяці тому +1

      Agree

    • @stab300
      @stab300 3 місяці тому +2

      I'll even say that, wukong stance should be there in NG+ if you get the secret ending flat out. Fuck life saving strand, give me the wukong stance skill tree.
      And if you get all relics thrice, just give me the great sage moveset man. Like if you beat Erlang thrice, dawg, you're already good at the game. Might as well make you stupidly overpowered. I mean who tf is complaining anyways. I modded that in and it's so goddamn fun.

    • @mohams151
      @mohams151 3 місяці тому +1

      @@stab300 Beating the great sage 3 times is harder than Beating Erlang 3 times. The sage scaling is absolutely brutal. He’s so strong starting from ng++

    • @stab300
      @stab300 3 місяці тому +2

      @@mohams151 sage has a lot of intuitive timings, though. And less complicated combos than Erlang. Both of them are fine once you get them down, but Erlang, to me is harder than Sage because Sage can mostly be dodged by just looking at the color of his staff or sound cues very consistently.

  • @thecrab3128
    @thecrab3128 5 місяців тому +91

    The tri point spear is very underestimated imo.
    The best part of its special attack is not the buff itself but the fact that it's fast attack with many, many hit counts.
    When combined with the golden set, it charges up Qi like crazy, enabling you to do spirit skill in higher frequency.
    And more spirit skill = more focus = more special attack = more Qi = MORE spirit skill, that's not even counting the attack buff that the golden set gives you upon using spirit skill🙉🙉🙉

    • @Habib-I
      @Habib-I 4 місяці тому +2

      I love ittttt

    • @christonchev9762
      @christonchev9762 4 місяці тому

      tho it has a low range and it works only with Thurst Stance and to many that's the weakest Stance out of the 3

    • @queonjacobs6823
      @queonjacobs6823 4 місяці тому +35

      @@christonchev9762 anyone who says pillar its stronger than thrust HAS to be rage baiting

    • @inkheart948
      @inkheart948 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep. I use this combo to stunlock yellow loong to death in NG+. Pretty OP.

    • @zakhuncho7881
      @zakhuncho7881 4 місяці тому

      I was dancing on yellow loong with this combo. Set my ring of fire and let the dance begin. If he's feeling frisky I just pop my rock solid. Non void and wind tamer. Untouchable.

  • @duducasarotto9975
    @duducasarotto9975 5 місяців тому +7

    the spear of erlang is insane but paired with the skill that consumes all your mana to give you a damage boost, and with the spear it becomes the best cause the changed moveset and the spear throws

  • @bkteer
    @bkteer 5 місяців тому +46

    The dark iron staff technically can be obtained early ng+....you just had to have skipped crafting multiple pieces of the bull king set/use only 2 pieces of bull horn. That way you can instantly start NG+ and craft the weapon.

    • @be9240
      @be9240 5 місяців тому +1

      That's what I thought, I crafted it right away. I just did the helm and left the others, since the full 4 peice bonus didn't seem amazing to me. You can't really trade in this game. (Until new game plus and pluck of many combo)

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  5 місяців тому +3

      oops....

    • @marcuslai6115
      @marcuslai6115 4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for this. Rocking the Dark Iron Staff since NG+ Chapter 2. It goes marvellously with the leg and arm pieces of the Bull Horn set that gives it plenty of defense. Add the mask and chest piece of the Pilgrim set for increased speed and the whole NG+ experience is amazing. Super enjoyable. Never picking up plants any more is a big part of that too !

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Місяць тому

      ​@@be9240 you cant trade what u mean pluck of many

    • @iBeTruckin
      @iBeTruckin 21 день тому

      I have weapons that are below these weapons on this list. I just got the game a week ago. Do I need to beat the challenges for them? Are they even worth the struggle?

  • @CA-JA
    @CA-JA 4 місяці тому +1

    NGL the staff and this tier list I thought was gonna be generic but holy sheet the level of knowledge you have about this game is genuinely impressive.

  • @AyeWhit
    @AyeWhit 4 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for the tier list man!
    Crazy people struggle with yellow loong, him and I had a nice 45 second ish chat lol I main pvp fps games too. I haven’t played a pve story game in years. Nice change up.

  • @KibethSE
    @KibethSE 4 місяці тому +2

    Adept spine is easily my favorite due to its flexibility and synergy with pretty much any build type. That being said I pretty much agree with all your insights on the other options in that tier.

  • @Tech_D3mon
    @Tech_D3mon 5 місяців тому +51

    28:12 "the damage it deals is concerningly underwhelming"
    *Literally shaving off chunks of Yin Tiger's health bar consistently with every heavy* (and is statistically on par with the jingubang and accessible within a single playthrough unlike other s tier weapons and feels more rewarding to get and has sick lore and a different moveset)

    • @Q2Qool
      @Q2Qool 5 місяців тому +18

      yin-tiger doesn’t have a lot of health.

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Місяць тому

      Fr delusional🤣

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Місяць тому

      ​@@Q2Qool delusional

  • @Realdrlipschitz
    @Realdrlipschitz 5 місяців тому +83

    I still say maxed out alternative Wukong armor and dark iron set maxed out is the best combo in the game

    • @Ratchet-Taco
      @Ratchet-Taco 5 місяців тому +3

      Beem running this even into ng+5

    • @Callmethedrink7
      @Callmethedrink7 5 місяців тому +7

      Yeah it’s the only way your damage keeps up into ng+ 4

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  5 місяців тому +13

      34:25

    • @coltizz
      @coltizz 5 місяців тому +1

      I’ve played trough the entire game and I thought it was a good game in terms of combat lore etc. But in terms of customization and gear it’s a c minus. Just look at Wu Longs different armor sets, ability’s, while the game itself was definitely worse. Its build verity was so much better and interesting that I did play new game + there just because I wanted to try them out. In Wukong when you get the final armor you are just retarded for not using it and handicapping yourself. Every piece has bonus stats that no other armor have. Personally I see absolutely no reason at all to play new game +… Killing the same bosses wearing the same items ? Nha I’m good.

    • @Longtimec
      @Longtimec 5 місяців тому +13

      @@coltizz sounds like issa you problem and not a game problem.

  • @dfafdasdfasdsfadsf
    @dfafdasdfasdsfadsf 4 місяці тому +2

    I was stuck on a few things in the game guide, but Immersive Translate really cleared up the translations for me.

  • @prisonbread
    @prisonbread 5 місяців тому +6

    Good God man, you did some fucking WORK with this video. Pointing out all the merits and "big picture" advantages/disadvantages of each staff is hugely helpful for knowing what I should and shouldn't bother with. Really appreciate how much knowledge and work you put into this video!

  • @오수민-d8w
    @오수민-d8w 4 місяці тому +4

    The true option of the spear is that you can switch to the counter during any combo, which the staff can't do

  • @TheMightyKite
    @TheMightyKite 3 місяці тому +3

    “That Boss” in chapter 4 has been a menace for me for two days, so I’m trying to finish the Loong quest line to atleast get some more power before fighting them again

  • @anteseke2396
    @anteseke2396 5 місяців тому +21

    For the ppl struggling with the Yellow Loon boss:
    Use the thrust stance, don't stay too close nor too far, stay somewhere in the middle (1 full Wukong height from your head to his legs) - reason is when you are either too close or too far he will be aggressive, when you're in the middle he will just walk towards you. Charge the attack up to 3 times and blast him, it will take some time but be patient, when you see him charging his attack, stop yourself from charging and focus on dodging, you will have to dodge first 2 attacks while gaining ground between him (try to get the same mid point distance again). Otherwise he will do a full combo of about 5-6 dodges required.
    When you drop him to half health he will start to dodge your charge immediately with thunder jump, when I see him do that I start to charge the attack to 2 focus points and then blasting him, it seemed it worked better then - it wouldn't trigger the thunder jump as much. Or it could be that he always thunder jumps away 2 times in a row and after that you can hit him few times (after some time he will use the thunder jump again), I was able to hit him with 3 focus point charge from time to time, although 2 FP charge was more effective once below half HP.
    This strat worked for me, hopefully it is clear enough and it helps someone.
    I will explain more if needed in the comments.
    Edit - I also used No skill spell that boost your attack 2x but removes other spells

    • @LukisaNumi
      @LukisaNumi 5 місяців тому +1

      haha bro literally what my strat was when I beat him a couple days ago I was stuck for hours then I just started sitting in fire circle and staggering him before big combos

    • @thisguy35
      @thisguy35 5 місяців тому +1

      worked for me too

    • @supercritic100
      @supercritic100 5 місяців тому +7

      What a trash guide. Way too complicated. The trick is just to summon your clones early, use cloud step to delay the fight and summon the clones twice in the fight. Wind tamer and whispering wight stops his weapon charge.

    • @thisguy35
      @thisguy35 5 місяців тому +8

      @@supercritic100 you don't have to be rude

    • @anteseke2396
      @anteseke2396 5 місяців тому +6

      @@supercritic100 Not complicated at all, just took longer to explain in 1 comment because I want to be detailed, tho ppl nowadays have short attention span. If i made a video it would be 2mins in length

  • @AcePlayzRBLX
    @AcePlayzRBLX 2 місяці тому +1

    ik im 2 months late but you can stunlock most bosses for an extremely long time using the tri point staff by using light attack until you get the move where you stab them many times (unless you see the enemy start to attack then skip to next step) then press heavy attack twice for the sword shooting move (which stunlocks all enemies as far as i have tested) then immediately after pressing the heavy attack button, repeat this process until you dont have focus points left.
    also its easier to do tactical retreat with the spears.

    • @AcePlayzRBLX
      @AcePlayzRBLX 2 місяці тому

      also the reason i say to press light attack many times and not just once is to gain back focus so you can stunlock the enemy for as long as possible

  • @colinclark9579
    @colinclark9579 2 місяці тому +1

    Not that I'd use the Visionary Centipede staff, but I guess it would synergize decently with the "super secret" Venomous Armguard the Venom Daoist gives you in Chp. 4, at the expense of his arms. These armguards inflict Poison Base upon landing a critical hit, and the staff gives 10% crit chance, so sure.
    I unlocked the Golden Loong before finishing Ch.4 and oh boy, what a weapon! I am a smash stance lover and I still use the smash stance. The 108 base damage is a big jump! I am not "forced" to use the pillar stance, but when I build up to 3 focus points I can simply switch to pillar stance and unleash the heavy. This special heavy attack seems to stun almost every boss that has had the misfortune of standing in my way since, and I take full advantage of the lightning debuff when switching back to smash stance.
    Your description of the Stormflash is hilarious.. "And...and...and...and..." Best run on sentence ever. lol

  • @Duckman-yv7gm
    @Duckman-yv7gm 3 місяці тому

    I appreciate the fact that the developers made WuKong’s staff one of if not the best staff, I mean it just makes sense and is so nice to use in new game plus (even as a bull king set enjoyer)

  • @rickn6923
    @rickn6923 7 днів тому

    Man so happy they are already adding new content with weapons/armor and challenges.
    Also we have 2 dlc’s on the way and 6 more chapters. It’s Gone BE GOOD.

  • @atrasricky4027
    @atrasricky4027 4 місяці тому +5

    Jingubang all the way. In the lore, it is Wukong's favorite. In game, It has critical chance boost, cooldown reduce, attack boost, and 4th attack no longer depletes. What else can you ask tho

  • @IceCold85
    @IceCold85 5 місяців тому +1

    Exceptional details, very good explanations for player use. Great job on the video 👍🏿

  • @weemanling
    @weemanling 5 місяців тому +28

    Still wouldn't put Tri in A tier, the stagger frequency alone from the new move is enough to make it S tier

    • @a.d.a.m1413
      @a.d.a.m1413 5 місяців тому +2

      I would put Tri in higher tier on certain occasions. If you combine it with with Serpent Scale Set Armor it will deal a ton of damage, because you could deal light attack finisher much faster and reliable with the "Firce Thrust". The problem is you have to be on water arena to unlock its true potential. Well it will help so much fighting the Final Boss

  • @guojilin
    @guojilin 3 місяці тому +1

    29:09 actually, if you didn’t do the chapter 4 secret area’s scorpionlord, you have to wait until ng+ chapter 4 is completed or go do the scorpionlord in the secret area’s to get enough sky piercing horns.

  • @mongodellango4732
    @mongodellango4732 5 місяців тому +1

    Good to see the classic Jingubang get some love and appreciation. It’s probably my favourite staff and the wukong set is probably my favourite armour set too. I’ve messed around with other staves and yeah they can be extremely powerful but they aren’t half as iconic. Some may see it as boring but sometimes you can’t beat simplicity.

  • @Bennydenim
    @Bennydenim 21 день тому

    The tri tip spear is so insane tho, you can spam the varied combo during almost any boss fight and kill them from half… no other staff has that kind of power imo.

  • @Kapper23
    @Kapper23 4 місяці тому

    Was gonna go for the true stance until you said it has to get activated and goes away after 60 seconds. Insane to me to not just give it permanently after all that work to get it. Very sick video!!

  • @user-kw7xk5hj4f
    @user-kw7xk5hj4f 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very much. Just started the game. The info will come in very handy ❤

  • @Pro-Hunter
    @Pro-Hunter 5 місяців тому

    This is some high quality content! Would love to see you make tier lists on stuff like armor sets, gourds, spirits, transformations, etc.

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  4 місяці тому

      armor set tierlist next!

  • @4synergy
    @4synergy 4 місяці тому +2

    Kang Jin staff goated. Carried me through most of chapter 3 and early chapter 4.
    Currently in Ng++ trying Yaksha king set with dark iron staff, wind tamer vessel, wandering eight, 3 defense curios and one mana increase curios plus spellbinder. Not an extensive tester but it seemed funny to max attack while “increasing damage reduction” from -30%. Also using life saving strand bc hahah funny. Fyi life saving strand procs on your transformation(I’ve only been using Azure Dome so idk if life saving strand resurrects anything else) and then it still works on me(at least i think i haven’t tried cuz everyone has died after taking 2 azure dome beatings plus a beating from me

  • @sunwukong1279
    @sunwukong1279 5 місяців тому +1

    This list is so informative and amazing! Please make other tier lists!

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  4 місяці тому +1

      armor tierlist soon!

  • @ds3pvpfun865
    @ds3pvpfun865 5 місяців тому +1

    nice,, heard you talking about this .. been watching your one shot streams .. i managed to get 95 percent damage buff earlier.. used the armour with the 25 buff.. then the potion with 30 percent buff on last sip.. plus revive another 30 percent then the relic perk when you cast a spell another 10 percent.. helps a lot with my one shot attempts :)

  • @please-wake-up-now
    @please-wake-up-now 5 місяців тому

    This is a super cool tier list! 🐵 It's interesting how some weapons feel way better when you get to know their combos. The golden loong staff was a total lifesaver for me in early game! 🏆 I kinda wish they added more variety though, like some staffs that could change elements or something. Wouldn't that just spice up the gameplay? 🤔✨ Keep it up, Syrobe! 🙌

  • @eldaralex3067
    @eldaralex3067 5 місяців тому

    Since i watched tones of shielded enemies being smashed by you while sharing with us the most comprehensive video on this topic, I can't asbtain myself from not pointing out (in case someone wasn't aware of) that you can use rocksolid against a shield attack therefore shattering it along with the additional defencebar.
    Thought i was doing something wrong since i appareantly came across only on staffs i dint like that much. My state of contentment was: i guess just more damage is better than ... nothing.
    I sticked with the stone staff for the most part, then switched to kangjin staff for the aesthetics rather then the stats or bonuses :)) felt great to summon lighting down on the enemy i'm pounding XD just to switch to the spider for some more damage and from this one to the visionary because again for the aesthtic and seemingly shallow sake (i dont enjoy seeing spider legs moving crawling like at each end of my staff ;)
    I hardly cand bring myself finishing it because i dont want it to end. Such a great game. Thank god ng+ exists.

  • @You_are_bananas
    @You_are_bananas 4 місяці тому

    The fact that you didn’t spoil any bosses or late enemies was enough for my sub. Also very informative video.

  • @alexrush4140
    @alexrush4140 5 місяців тому +2

    Awesome to see Syrobe getting some good view counts on a game that isn't Elden Ring. Also fun to watch him stream 👍

  • @thatdawgrich
    @thatdawgrich 5 місяців тому

    Bro hell yeah another fire video bro now I know what staffs ima definitely check out 🔥🔥

  • @lorddale2212
    @lorddale2212 3 місяці тому

    after getting the tri-point spear and mastering thrust stance, I must say, the spear is actually OP. Super insane especially with the POM. When you have All your focus points, you can spam Forceful Thrust and absolutely melt an enemy while dodging attacks at the same time.

  • @suhbubba176
    @suhbubba176 5 місяців тому +14

    Btw for the tri point spear you don't need the loong dragon quests done, I only killed the cyan loong and was able to go kill erlang

    • @GhettoGz
      @GhettoGz 4 місяці тому +1

      Well you still one shot them from NG+ and on. So getting some extra sparks wont hurt.

  • @Arclor
    @Arclor 5 місяців тому +3

    Did some spreadsheeting and simple trials on all of the staves you put in S-tier. Found that Fuban despite its impressive crit rate, it was the lowest damaging (dps) among them if you don't count the spike explosion (I couldn't get it to consistently hit, plus it's only on heavies). Fuban's passive can be eally nice though. Good against multiple enemies or big enemies like you said.

    • @ttydt
      @ttydt 5 місяців тому

      What’s the best dps build for someone running spellbinder?

    • @Arclor
      @Arclor 5 місяців тому +1

      @ttydt dark iron staff, but you need high defence, like 500+. By my NG+ run, I had 550.

    • @drillodoger6707
      @drillodoger6707 4 місяці тому

      How would a 15 damage difference between fuban and jingubang, but such a huge difference in crit chance lead to jingubang having higher dps? Also fuban does quite a lot more damage than jingubang on heavy attacks from what I’ve seen since the spines can crit too.

    • @Arclor
      @Arclor 4 місяці тому

      @drillodoger6707
      You can actually estimate the "dps" by assuming an average amount of crits based on crit chance... so for example if you have a 20% crit rate, you assume 2 out of 10 attacks are crits.
      Formula for it is DMG * (1+(CR)*(CD-100)/100))
      DMG is the amount you hit after your attack goes through all the nebulous multipliers and enemy defence. You have to test against any enemy to figure this number out. I used the damage I got from a non-crit using a 3-focus charged heavy on the same enemy each time. You have to take an average though since even the exact same strike in the exact same enemy has variable damage (+/- 5 %? Something like that).
      CR is your crit rate as a proportion (so 23% is 0.23), and CD is your crit damage (not as a proportion, just drop the % sign and take the whole #).
      I don't know the full damage formula this game uses, but CD is the last multiplier that applies after your base attack goes through all the other multipliers and enemy defence.
      Using this formula, all of the mythical staves are actually very close to each other in dps, with black iron pulling ahead significantly more than the rest of the pack when you have 500+ defence.
      Like you said though, Fuban has the spines plus the spines can crit. I didn't account for that because I couldn't get them to consistently land (many enemies including those your size are too small to get hit by the spines). Jingubang has the advantage of being able to store the 4th focus point, so outside of flawless gameplay, you will hit more 4-focus smashes with it than with fuban. Their base dps are so close though, that I'd go with whichever has a passive you like more. Jingubang and fuban are def my favorite for that.

    • @Arclor
      @Arclor 4 місяці тому

      @drillodoger6707 plugging in 0 for dark iron, and 25 for fuban crit rates, if seems yes that it still outdamages fuban, even when you have a lot of crit damage (180%+). They're closer in dps at 0% natural crit rate though.
      Just wanna stress again that this is raw damage in a controlled setting. The spines from fuban, and set bonuses that benefit from you scoring crits could make fuban more effective overall. I don't think I have the time to make an accurate model for all of that lol

  • @knight_link7082
    @knight_link7082 5 місяців тому +1

    One thing I will say in the blazing karmas defense, I used it on the mantis boss that always like to charge in close and spam, directly after I would hit him he would charge back in and every time I would keep the fire pit between us. The burn damage was crazy and proct fast with the resistance ignoring soak.

  • @blackwidow7804
    @blackwidow7804 4 місяці тому +1

    Spider celestial staff is great with the armor set that increases your dmg when poisoned while lowering poison dmg you take. So you poison yourself with gourd, gets dmg buff and tour staff apply poison on heavy hits.

  • @xTiddi
    @xTiddi 5 місяців тому +22

    Spirit Tier List next?

  • @221BlueStreet
    @221BlueStreet 4 місяці тому

    Regarding the staff that require you to be posioned, there is a soak that puts you in a poisoned state, using that could improve the benefits of that passive

  • @Smileyking-wl4iy
    @Smileyking-wl4iy 5 місяців тому

    Thx for putting no spoilers in the titel :). Always hesitant to watch these kind of videos

  • @Erkhes-f7c
    @Erkhes-f7c Місяць тому

    Just found out. You can get the stormflash loong staff in chapter 3 ng+. Doesn't really change much of Syrobe's point but it can be obtained earlier.

  • @johncra8982
    @johncra8982 3 місяці тому

    everytime he said "chit in" instead of "kite in" a part of my soul died 😂

  • @mentaikiryo
    @mentaikiryo 5 місяців тому +1

    Wanna prefix this with I love your videos and this one was really enjoyable to watch. Can't wait for the next stream!
    Spoke too ya a bit on your streams and have mentioned that erlang was the hardest boss for me. Now having beaten him I think I know why and it's mainly based on mentality.
    Majority of the players fighting him are not using rock solid or cloud step.
    I know this because I wasn't. Majority builds I saw fighting erlang were using spell binder and like the pilgrim set. Like 98%
    Spoke to my wife (she hasn't played the game) and she helped me come up with a better strategy which basically boiled down to Use the rock solid move for once.
    My reason for not using it was cause I'm personally aggressive with my play style and greedy for hits so I hated using cloud step which took you sorta out of combat. And I never used rock solid because at that point I was so used to just dodging everything as if I had ultra instinct. Thing about erlang is he will hit you if you're just dodging. You have basically 0.2% of a chance of dodging the entire fight unless you've already perfectly mastered him. Normal players and even good players aren't gonna dodge him ever. Erlang is hard as hell to beat but the moment I used rock solid in my build I legit best him on my 3rd try. Same with wukong. I think the main problem is every build that is shown and every tutorial for erlang shows you basically relying on being good enough to dodge and hit without relying on spells and while that does work, most players can't do that. Rock solid gets introduced just late enough for people's muscle memory to forget that it exists (I wanted to use it but never did because I was already so used to not having it)
    And I feel like a lot of players develop a hit greedy play style by that point.
    That's my idea/stand point on why some bosses like erlang or yellow loong are so hard for the community. I could easily be wrong but that's just me.

  • @yaj7668
    @yaj7668 12 днів тому

    Easily push down on the D-pad for Wukong Stance.....that way, you can still switch to the other 3 stances. Hopefully Game Science makes it happen

  • @dokho7iday
    @dokho7iday 5 місяців тому

    Great video, extremely helpful. Thank you!

  • @I39393I
    @I39393I 5 місяців тому +3

    one little thing about the spear light attack
    the modified light attack has huge cancle window on attack 2 and 3 made it really easy to use the back hop(i forgot what the moves name) like ur using long sword in monster hunter

  • @growlingscarab7
    @growlingscarab7 4 місяці тому

    Golden Long So far has been a favorite Weapon, outside of specific situations, i have pillar stance equipped all the time and it absolutely melts if you pluck of many right before you set off your charged attack.

  • @riv8472
    @riv8472 5 місяців тому

    Great video could you do a video testing the interactions between each skills ? Like what applies to what and what doesnt

  • @Simplecreature75
    @Simplecreature75 15 днів тому

    Very helpful, thanks!!!

  • @jasonwhatley2479
    @jasonwhatley2479 4 місяці тому

    For the staffs with healing effects the health gained on focus skill really boosts it imo, and the crits giving spell cooldown is better than ya think with some luck and maxing crit rate skills then adding a potion you can make for free easily.

  • @mr_qaimaq
    @mr_qaimaq 5 місяців тому +3

    12:35, finally, somebody said this. Quality content here, guys!!!

  • @Ethical228
    @Ethical228 5 місяців тому +5

    Hey syrobe. Great video

  • @dyontaydial8727
    @dyontaydial8727 3 місяці тому

    Just unlocked the Golden Loong staff and personally love the design and the Thunder Dragon attack. It was worth the grind 🐲⚡️⚡️⚡️!

  • @FPchie
    @FPchie 4 місяці тому +4

    This tier list makes more sense and analytical than other youtuber channel tier list. Should have released this video much sooner lol. Just completed tha first playthrough.

  • @The_Wanderer...
    @The_Wanderer... 3 місяці тому

    I got the game 3 weeks ago and beat it with secret ending and all a week a half ago. Really fun game, gave me some real good challenges, there are bosses you have to be aggressive with, others you have to be patient really really good game, I'm playing the plus now. And for me the pillar stance is my favorite, I really don't find a use for the thrust stance and the smash stance will pretty much always be useful.
    Anyways, yellowloong was a pretty good fight, it took me like 5 hours to beat him, but a lot of that was from me going off to completely rebuild my stats 😂

  • @vizualwarrior129
    @vizualwarrior129 5 місяців тому +1

    U should do a vid about armor!! Specifically like late game armor sets for ppl in NG+ and above. There’s already plenty of videos of ppl grading all the armor sets in normal base game, but for NG+ and above (when you can upgrade mostly everything to mythical) I haven’t seen any videos of. On top of that, I notice you almost always wearing that yakusha armor all the time. Would you say that’s some of the best armor in the game? (Assuming everything has been upgraded to mythical) I’m assuming simply bcuz of the constant damage buff u get and not caring about the damage you take bcuz ur good at souls games etc.

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  4 місяці тому

      ARMOR NEXT!

  • @AlexMartinez-kk5qz
    @AlexMartinez-kk5qz 4 місяці тому

    Hola vege, para sacar el final "bueno" que simplemente te desbloquea una cinemática tras el jefe final, hay que derrotar a un jefe super complicado que se encuentra si vas a la gran pagoda en el capitulo 3 una vez conseguida la quinta reliquia. (que ya la tienes). Una vez en la localización sube las escaleras centrales y habla con el pequeño monje que te transportará a una montaña helada. No te digo mas que no quiero spoilearte. Te recomiendo hacerlo antes de seguir con la historia principal para ya dejártelo hecho todo antes de acabar el juego. Además la recompensa es un arma bastante cheta. Saluditos y que disfrutes lo que te queda de juego

  • @titantryinc-cd3dz
    @titantryinc-cd3dz 5 місяців тому

    With the Mythic pilgram the stormflash is perfect ... but i get it but with that armor set any boss that can be immobilized is dead in 2 or 3 charged cloned synced heavys .. i believe that would be the phrase. Great breakdown. Thank you.

  • @maartenrauws921
    @maartenrauws921 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for all the work

  • @Seanlin2002
    @Seanlin2002 3 місяці тому

    Currently in Chapter 4 and just crafted Spikeshaft staff. it now (after an update or patch note I guess) also gives you +30 Max Mana aside from 80 base attack.

  • @christopherreid5900
    @christopherreid5900 4 місяці тому

    Great analysis!

  • @Valientee16
    @Valientee16 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm at CH5 and still using the Kang-Jin staff. I love my thunder damage build.

  • @hopelessdistribution6937
    @hopelessdistribution6937 5 місяців тому +10

    Spoilers!:
    For those struggling with the Chapter 3 secret Boss: It is VERY easy, tbh.
    The hardest part is the Block Meter.
    1. You Can use the Plantain Fan to deplete it ALL with a single use.
    2. Azure Dust transformation also deals a massive chunk out of the Block.
    3. The quick transformation spirit called "Top Takes Bottom, Bottom Takes Top" to deplete his Block Meter more and do decent damage. (Once it is upgraded, it works wonders on his health and Block.)
    4. You can use Parry to block the hard telegraphed attacks they do while in the air.
    Using these I beat him really easily, it was a cake walk and first tried with this set up from a Video I saw.
    Hope it helps!

    • @Taint_Smasher
      @Taint_Smasher 4 місяці тому

      I HIGHLY doubt you first tried Erlang. Come on now kid.

    • @jamesdsmith1217
      @jamesdsmith1217 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Taint_Smasher read please.... First tried Elarng with that setup... and so did i... i watched the same video made the same build and it was a cake walk.

    • @stab300
      @stab300 3 місяці тому

      If you want to get frisky with it, don't use the plantain fan in the first phase, time his block break, with a 4 point focus thingy when he's about to go the 2nd phase. If you break his block and trigger the 2nd phase attack. It SKIPS it, and you go straight into 2nd phase on top of doing crazy damage. And then you can easily trigger his 3rd phase disappearance with the wandering wight heavy, or ig top takes bottom smashes. Dodge the initial flurry, and then, immediately transform (azure dust) to soften him up a bit. Tank/dodge a combo, and then plantain fan him, summon clones, just empty the house and he dies.
      This is from NG testing, I'm sure it's even easier in NG+ because of the unified mind skill. I think you can actually skip the 3rd phase animation too with the fan but I never felt the need to. It's a bit more complicated. But you can damn near script the fight if you get it down.

    • @omgdin
      @omgdin 2 місяці тому

      ​@@jamesdsmith1217Video name?

  • @Loco4Fuecoco
    @Loco4Fuecoco 4 місяці тому

    Dope video, but you can definitely get dark iron staff before late chapter 5 on NG+. I’m only at chapter 4 and I’ve had it, pretty sure I crafted it in chapter2.

  • @angeldu5t922
    @angeldu5t922 5 місяців тому

    Cloud was great for a cloud step build was hitting over 3k per hit while clouds step was on a small cool down also I think certain enemies/bosses could have different defenses so that could alter your results if you just tested the black Smith

  • @jamespalm1530
    @jamespalm1530 5 місяців тому

    Great video...thanks. Will you do a similar video for the armor sets?

  • @Issac1222productions
    @Issac1222productions 4 місяці тому

    idk if this has been pointed out yet but the tri-point spear is not as hard to get as you say in the video, namely you DO NOT need to kill all 4 loongs to get to the secret boss, all you need to do is complete the secret side quests in each chapter

  • @ieatcalamari4595
    @ieatcalamari4595 5 місяців тому

    For Yellow Loong I strongly recommend rock solid and pluck of many maxed out. Pluck of many, immobilize and dump damage, then since pluck is maxed duplicates can use some spells, including immobilize. Withering Wight for his big boy damage, and use blacksmith transformation. For the transformation block to build focus and go into his special mode. These things should dump his HP to about 1/4 health. You gotta be pretty diligent at that point. DO NOT use pluck of many with chubai thrust staff either, because you and your dupes will be pushing each other out the way and wasting damage opportunities.

  • @MagdiEl-bizri-y4f
    @MagdiEl-bizri-y4f 3 місяці тому

    Btw you can do a crit poison build with spider staff by using that deathstinger soak and upgrading crit to max it would be a good staff hope this helps 👍

  • @IDislikeTheNewYoutube
    @IDislikeTheNewYoutube 5 місяців тому

    A Video about the best weapons available by Chapter and how to obtain them would be nice. Good luck.

  • @SuperDuperSoundFX
    @SuperDuperSoundFX 4 місяці тому

    Funny cuz your recommended staff was what i used through my playthrough just naturally. I'm just devastated that things are lock behind at least 3 ng+ on top of true ending... some bosses took my hours to beat like the centipede without the golden needle 😅😅😅

  • @marcuslai6115
    @marcuslai6115 4 місяці тому

    Really great analysis.

  • @Ryn0_333
    @Ryn0_333 4 місяці тому

    Extremely helpful video!

  • @qwert4461
    @qwert4461 2 місяці тому

    Currently on my 3rd playthrough omw to wukong stance, rushing every boss down so far since ng+ and getting sweet revenge hehe

  • @YureiOni
    @YureiOni 4 місяці тому

    Thrust stance is the most fun to use imo. I like integrating all 3 but thrust is so much fun haha.

  • @Mugendary
    @Mugendary 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Syrobe, can we get an all Armour set tier list in the future?

  • @Idk_what_2_write_XD
    @Idk_what_2_write_XD 5 місяців тому

    Thank you!!! Just finished the game and wanted to know wjat are the best ng+ staffs🎉

  • @MrJade12
    @MrJade12 5 місяців тому +5

    I am really surprised someone focused on one shot challange runs would prefer a staff thats pretty much only got utility going for it.

    • @wolfmoon222
      @wolfmoon222 5 місяців тому +1

      yeah kind of agree - 10 seconds is plenty of time to use the 4th focus point

    • @syrobe
      @syrobe  5 місяців тому +2

      because in any scenario other than a true one shot i would prefer the jingubang lol

    • @MrJade12
      @MrJade12 5 місяців тому +1

      @@syrobe I mean if you are not going for a true one shot you don't really need the 4 focus heavy

  • @nando603
    @nando603 4 місяці тому +1

    "pay to lose" - hahahahahahahahahhaahhaha that was a good one

  • @adawg3032
    @adawg3032 2 місяці тому

    Staff spin goes crazy when you got the storm flash long staff buff active

  • @lewismorby4608
    @lewismorby4608 5 місяців тому +1

    If you use the chitin staff with pillar stance with 3 focus points the healing is actually pretty decent

  • @thedizaster115
    @thedizaster115 4 місяці тому

    The staff of blazing karma is craftable before the boss of ch5 is defeated. As well, while the explosion is underwhelming and crknge, it has probably the fastest scorch build in the game. The scorcg happens at the tip of the staff, so you have to get close to the enemy to knock them into it.

  • @phrostix7727
    @phrostix7727 4 місяці тому

    I think that you are underrating the Visionary Centipede Staff. You do not need to swap to a Spirit or Transformation, just combines it to with Venemous Armguard which, while not part of a set technically, it shares the set bonus with the Centipede set. This detail I believe should bump up the value of this staff,. That 10% crit chance is huge for the Armguards which proc on crit but only offer 3% crit themselves.

    • @phrostix7727
      @phrostix7727 4 місяці тому

      Spikeshaft Staff works on Tactical Retreat not just Resolute Strike. This is particularly useful for thrust users because Whirling Thrust does not generate focus. This particular synergy I think should bump up the staff a bit, though the lack of crit rate does still hurt it since Whirling Thrust is best on crit builds. Additionally, this passive also syngergizes very well with Skyfall Strike which does more damage based on the number of focus points built up. Personally, I am only using Counterstrike and Tactical specifically for these counters; if not for the special parries I would just run pure heavy attack builds.

  • @ZeroOmega-vg8nq
    @ZeroOmega-vg8nq 5 місяців тому

    from what i can deduce. GS needs to have an update that actulaly lets up upgrade the weapons to have all the choices we want when it comes to damage and then upgrades the passives

  • @ryanjurgens2535
    @ryanjurgens2535 4 місяці тому

    I feel it's important to note thrust stance itself increases crit chance. So I feel like the thrust stance specific weapons could all be higher

  • @colinsmith6453
    @colinsmith6453 5 місяців тому

    Great video, man.

  • @kd_killa256
    @kd_killa256 5 місяців тому

    I'm loving the fuban staff with the kashka armor and 3 crit damage curious and 1 crit chance curiou. With the needle vessel and non able for my spirit for the extra crit. I walk around with 63% crit chance and 203% crit damage that mixed with spellbinder is so strong in NG+