*Submit the video link into the description on an AUDIO ISSUE request to FORZA ;D* support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/requests/new How much time went really into this? - 30 Hours Preparing/choosing the cars + making sure no engine swaps where build in! - 5 Hours recording & out sorting the same engine files in both games (if the file stood the same i did not use the cars) - 6 hours with editing & cutting the video + writing the car names - And another 2 hours to render this 130GB huge video and another 5 Hours to compress it down to 9GB Used cars below! GT-R R34 only for the meme ;D 2017 Acura NSX 201 Alfa Romeo 4C 1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale 1971 AMC Javelin AMX 2017 Aston Martin DB11 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan 2010 Aston Martin One-77 2017 Audi R8 2015 Audi TTS 2013 Audi RS4 Avant 2011 Audi RS5 Coupe 2011 Audi RS3 1995 Audi RS2 Avant 1986 Audi Sport Quattro S1 1983 Audi Sport Quattro 2016 BMW M4 GTS 2016 BMW M2 2013 BMW M6 2012 BMW M5 2011 BMW Series 1 M Coupe 2008 BMW M3 E92 2005 BMW M3 E46 1997 BMW M3 2011 Bugatti Veyron 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 2015 Dodge Challenger Hellcat 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR 1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR 2015 Ferrari 488 GTB 2014 Ferrari FXX K 2013 Ferrari LaFerrari 2012 Ferrari F12 2010 Ferrari 599XX 2003 Ferrari 360 Stradale 1995 Ferrari F50 1987 Ferrar F40 1984 Ferrari 288 GTO 1966 Ferrari 330 P4 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO 2017 Ford GT 2017 Ford Focus RS 2016 Ford Shelby GT350R 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 2010 Ford Crown Vic 2009 Ford Focus RS 2005 Ford GT 2003 Ford Focus RS 1993 Ford SVR Cobra 1992 Ford Escort RS 1985 Ford RS200 1981 Ford Fiesta XR2 1973 Ford Capri RS3100 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302 1966 Ford GT MK2 2012 Hennessy Venom GT 2015 Honda Civic Type-R 2009 Honda S2000 CR 2004 Honda Civic Type R 1997 Honda Civic Type R 1992 Honda NSX-R 1992 Hoonigan Porsche RWB 1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800 2011 Hot Wheels Bone Shaker 2016 Jaguar F-Type P7 2015 Jaguar XE-S 1993 Jaguar XJ220 1961 Jaguar E-Type S1 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT 2016 Jeep Trailcat 2015 Koenigsegg One:1 2014 Lamborghini Huracan 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento 2011 Lamborghini Gallardo 2010 Lamborghini Murcielago SV 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV 1988 Lamborghini Countach 1982 Lancia 037 Stradale 1974 Lancia Stratos HF 2015 Land Rover Range Rover SVR 1969 Lola Penske T70 2016 Lotus 3-Eleven 2012 Lotus Exige S 2002 Lotus Esprit V8 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S 2004 Maserati MC12 2011 Mazda RX-8 1997 Mazda RX-7 2015 McLaren 570S 2015 McLaren 650S 2013 McLaren P1 1993 McLaren F1 2017 M-B AMG GT-R 2013 M-B AMG A45 2009 M-B SL65 AMG 1998 M-B AMG CLK GTR 1986 MG Metro 6R4 2012 Mini JCW GP 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 2010 Nissan 370Z 2003 Nissan 350Z 2000 Nissan Silvia S15 1998 Nissan R390 1997 Nissan GT-R R33 1995 Nissan GT-R LM 1993 Nissan GT-R R32 1993 Nissan 240SX 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 2010 Noble M600 2016 Pagani Huayra BC 2010 Pagani Zonda R 2009 Pagani Zonda 1984 Peugeot 205 1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge 2016 Porche 911 GT3 RS 2015 Porsche Cayman GTS 2014 Porsche 918 Spyder 2012 Porsche GT3 RS 4.0 2004 Porsche 911 GT3 2003 Porsche Carrera GT 1995 Porsche 911 GT2 1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2015 Radical RXC Turbo 1980 Renault 5 Turbo 1973 Renault Alpine A110 2004 Saleen S7 2016 Spania GTA Spano 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi 1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi 2004 TVR Sagaris 2015 Ultima 1020 1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton 1997 Volvo 850R 2016 W Motors Lykan Hypersport 2016 Zenvo ST1
@@effisjens1776 overdramatising yo ass, everyone's tired of this bullshit, when every other game has better sounds than forza, you gotta be a little suspicious at least. Just stop thinking you're the bright one in the crowd
@@gusparlow that's what you say. I'm not tired of this BS, it's the community that is crying over a small detail. Heck, fastlane is calling this is AUDIO ISSUE. I don't get this community nor they get me. At least I show the respect playground deserves. And if you think you can do it better yourself then be my guest
@@effisjens1776 I can't do better myself, BECAUSE IM A PLAYER, NOT A DEVELOPER. As if every other game isnt better than forza nowadays, I'm just trying to make it a great game again, as once it was.
@@gusparlow and it still is great. The whole community is blinded by its anger and frustration about the car sounds. It's pointless. Plus, just because you're a player doesn't mean you can't volenteer to PG to help recording a car by referencing a dealer or a person that has said car and is interested to help
effisjens there maybe a lot of cars in fh4 and it’s hard to get a perfect sound for all of them, but that’s not what the video proves, it proves that most of the cars sounded better in older games but for some reason the sounds got worse
It's not only the sounds, too many bugs are still in the game, boring and never changing Forzathon Live Events, unacceptable Offline traffic on the roads, too long loading times on XBOX, rediculous driver seating positions in outside view, etc... Been playing this shit since day one and gone when there's a better game available...🤣
@@effisjens1776 Stop writing comments like this! That much complaining Gamers are not coming out of nowhere! They are mostly longterm car game enthusiasts and know how cars should sound like...😉
@@einautofan6685 still, that doesn't mean they all have to turn this into one large clusterf**k like it is now. Perhaps they all should volunteer to PG for recording the car sounds...actually this is a much better idea then all submitting a ticket under AUDIO ISSUE
Don't forget we already complained about FH3 sounds a couple of years back. It was nowhere near to perfection, but it was better than this nonsense in audio format we get today.
yet now many people who said "FH3 sounds like shit" are the same people who say "Why did they not use sounds from FH3??" I bet when FH5 comes out people'll start praising FH4 just to shit on the new game don't worry, I'm pretty sure you're not one of thos people
@@gusparlow I care about quantity over quality too because I always value variety. I'm also a Forza fan since Horizon 1 and I think the sounds only got better with the exception of FM7
So many ppl moaning about sounds, not realising the leading sound engineer Mike Caviezel left after FM6 and FH3, to work for Polyphony Digital on GT Sport. They why the sounds in FM7 and FH4 have changed to much. PG nor T10 can used the sound he did as he owns the copyright to them, as there his work.
Still, for me this is cheap explanation why everything went wrong. It's not possible that one person can make that difference. You need to remember that there's dedicated team to record car audio. I think that big deal here is quantity and the fact that back in FM4 days, cars where recorded on dynos and not on the tracks like with FH4. And PG don't give a F about car sounds, they did a short video in one of they livestreams on how they record cars and that's it. Case closed. Not guilty.
That doesnt make any sense, the sounds he made while under the contract of PG and T10 are property of them, not him. The real reason is because they switched sound engines.
Also the Viper sounded clean in Forza Horizon 3. In Forza Horizon 4 (the shit version of Forza Horizon 3) Viper sounds like something when someone rub their fingers against the brush.
Basically what the developers did for every each cars' sound were just alter the sound from the previous assets and tweak them with minor changes, instead of overhaul the sound designs by making a new one. That's a one huge lazy ass effort right there. And one more thing, WHY DA FUCK is the brake is so quick to glow even for just minor braking? It's so annoying!
Still cant get over the hennessy venom, in horizon 3 it sounded exactly like every video I've ever watched of one, IT WAS PERFECT! In 4 it just sounds like a N/A corvette ;(
Unacceptable. Share this video with other big name Forza players like EricShip111, RacingMonkey, DonJoeWonSong twitter. Then Playground will notice when alll the UA-camrs talk about it. People think its a small matter. Hell no. Imagine playing COD or FIFA or another tripleA game and you have lame sound effects the community would flip. The car sound forum is the largest on the Forums. It tells you something. They need to hire better sound engineers no question about it.
Shared it. I'm fed up of the lame audio. They need to fire the current team and hire a new one who are actually interested in good quality audio for games.
its not necesarry. Sounds are good enough for the car roster. The current team is doing a good job with the game and make barely any mistakes. And no, car sounds arent one of them
FH4 sounds incomplete... in their livestreams I remember one of the audio guys said that 'they wanted more engine sound than exhaust', which tells you how high above the clouds their minds are... the exhaust sound is what gives that final detail to a car (it's one of the reasons NFS Heat shows a lot of potential) if it's not broken, why fix it?
Yeah the sounds really have gotten worst but I've noticed something. If two players have the same car, for example the viper, the other player actually has the better sound on the same persons screen
I think I know what you mean. Like the P1 sound on FH4 is bad but when you listen to it when a friend is in next to you revving it, it's the P1 sound from FM7. Much better sound and it's not the only car that like that, the Chiron is another one.
For fh5 add a map big as crew, add customization similar to crew or nfs, add a actual story(a interesting story like how og racing games used to be with action and some drama) and best of all Good car sounds then bam💣👌🏾
As a game developer myself, here's my take on this entire situation: If this was an indie game, the sounds would've been fixed within a few months. If many players are strongly fighting for something to be changed in your game, you HAVE to listen to them, even if you only can work with halfway compromises. Work on the car sounds should have been started the moment people were talking about how dissatisfied they were with them, because it's beyond important to communicate and work with your fans. Yes, sometimes fans demand things that are way out of scope, but better sounds? That's doable, especially if other sounds like natural foliage is top notch and things like the graphic fidelity get so much attention (except for the player character animations they look awful, DiRT 5's hands look better lmao) These devs need to do their research, listen to real life cars as well as player's favorites from other games, really get a clear understanding of what they like/don't like. Put out surveys and tests if you have to, get some of the most expensive and skilled audio engineers money can hire, do absolutely whatever it takes to regain player trust because at this point any bond between players and the devs is non existent at this point, hardcore players pretty much straight up hate the devs. If they don't improve Horizon 5 in all aspects, and really try to "wow" players, I won't be getting the 5th game, and many others won't either. You HAVE to listen to your playerbase, especially if they're metaphorically chucking rocks at you. For my platformer game, I've had players tell me they didn't like the twin stick control scheme, so I changed it to a more traditional feeling one, and they like it much better, and I like it too! See? Even I can listen to players. Hell, I even updated the sounds in my own game for things like player weapons; had to spend some money buying sound assets but I didn't go cheap and it paid off. I tried to get the best sounding effects I could find and players seem to be happy with them. If a single college student making some lame action platformer can update the sound effects for his game, a corporate studio can do the same.
The worst part is that they don't seem to know what make some sound especially horrible. Some of the worst offenders I can think of is the Pulsar/A45/Focus RS etc exhaust rasp, the first gen Focus RS exhaust 'rumble', the Subaru 'rumble' and Camaro ZL1 'rumble'...
@@RS-nq8xk yeah there's this disconnection between the devs and understanding car sounds. Feels like they didn't do any research or at least aren't passionate enough to care 🤔
I really like your video, but I would have preferred if you would have played the sound while standing still and started, but otherwise a really nice video.😊
The Dodge Viper sounds like farts in a bath, multiple cars have no turbo blow off or no supercharger whine, and the cars which do have turbo blow off sound like the choked garble of a turkey.
@@Controller8907 That's the sound of Viper ACR '16 from Forza Horizon 3. I modify sound file so that FH4 Viper ACR also sounds like FH3 Viper ACR. I tried the same for Bugatti Veyron but didn't work.
I wouldnt have minded if they delayed FH4 to make sure everything was perfect. Sounds and all, to me it's a discrace that a game 2 years older has better sounds
You need to share this witb Playground games and share it other big Forza UA-camrs so they cover it, RacingMonkey, AR12, EricShip111 so Playground see it and ACTUALLY do something about it instead. I'm not having this in next gen Forzas.
@@effisjens1776 Nope they're terrible I've played all the Horizons and this game has easily the worst and least authentic sounds. Imagine if any other triple A game had lame sounds for guns and characters etc people would flip. Same comes to this. Its the biggest thread on the forums for a reason
I think this video shows that Forza Horizon 4's car sounds are actually very good. Yes there could be some tweaks and changes here and there, but overall I think there is a lot of improvement. I don't think there should be as much hate as there is for the sounds.
I don’t understand. People that are thinking or even say one thing is better than this like what’s happening now, Play the god damn game. Who cares people think this is better. You should be grateful that the Forza community does.
Has anyone noticed the difference in Subaru sounds between both games? Fh3 sound smooth and wonderful and fh4 sound like they haven’t had an oil change in 15 years!😂
Plus Fast Lane Gaming hopefully your hard work pays off with the sounds from FH3 to 4. I like to at least keep the mclaren F1 sound. Sounds better than the one in fh3
Overall conclusion from this is that most csr sounds are too refined or high pitched Lower the pitch and it would make it sound deeper giving it a more realistic tone especially in higher revs
There's a lot of minor details that Horizon 4 is missing from Horizon 3. The daytime running lights on cars are either off or extremely dim compared to Horizon 3. On cars with handbrakes there's an animation where your hand goes off the wheel and reaches for the handbrake in Horizon 3 when they should always be on. Horizon 4 doesn't have that. When driving through sand during night time the particles behind the car glow bright when you brake in Horizon 3. Also, Horizon 3 just looks more beautiful compared to Horizon 4. Colors are much more vibrant
I think that FH3 has *overall* better sounds/audio. Some of them in FH4 have a better low-mid rev range sound like the Huracan and the R8 etc... while the cars in FH3 overall have e better rev range of sounds and accurate/realistic to the engine type. Tho i love how some people who defend FH4's overall car sounds always come up with the worst excuses ever made, like; "FH4 has a lot more cars in it's car list, so we shouldn't complain about how it doesn't sound as good. If you think it's so easy then go find the "X car" from 50 years ago and go record it on an airfield in proper weather to get the proper sound!" Look i know it's hard to do these things, and i'm not a developer/coder, let alone a sound designer, so i can't act or say that it's easy, but from what i'm looking at FH3 had these cars already and they had good/better sounds, yet for some reason the same cars in FH3 sound worse in FH4 ? How does that make any sense ? And is quantity a good excuse to ignore quality ? This is my problem with that dumb excuse, i don't care how many cars we have in FH4, half the cars in it aren't even used as much. Why put in tons of cars if you can't give them good quality (sounds as an example) ? It's suppose to be quality over quantity, that's why other games with a smaller car list have better sounds. It's because they chew what they can swallow, they don't bite off more then they can chew, and then be to lazy to swallow it down. Again i know it's not easy, but if they were smart about it they would first look at the amount of cars they can record/handle and work with, based on that quantity they will look for the cars that are easy to find, record, and put detail on for the quality, and in that they will also search for the cars that are in high demand or ask the players what they want to see in the next game for a good idea and inspiration. This way you get the proper quality sounds, the proper quantity of a car list that everyone can enjoy. They can also build up on this to increase the size of the car list for players and content, they won't always be perfect and we understand that, and we won't complain as long as they improve over time, but in the case of FH4 we already know they can be better since they are in FH3. I went on a full on rant there but i just wanted to give my thoughts really, if anyone disagrees that's fine, it's our opinions after all.
There's so much inconsistency in Horizon. It drives me nuts. You should one comparing the cockpit view sounds. That's where the differences really show.
I hate that all V12’s are just based on the Ferrari V12 noise. The sound of the High reving V8’s in the RS4/5 and M3 are awful and generic FH3 was better, and they’ve given all the AMG’s the exact same sound. When there’s quite a difference from the 6.2 5.5 and 4.0. They’ve really butchered the sounds in this game which sometimes makes it so hard to play.
*Submit the video link into the description on an AUDIO ISSUE request to FORZA ;D* support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/requests/new
How much time went really into this?
- 30 Hours Preparing/choosing the cars + making sure no engine swaps where build in!
- 5 Hours recording & out sorting the same engine files in both games (if the file stood the same i did not use the cars)
- 6 hours with editing & cutting the video + writing the car names
- And another 2 hours to render this 130GB huge video and another 5 Hours to compress it down to 9GB
Used cars below!
GT-R R34 only for the meme ;D
2017 Acura NSX
201 Alfa Romeo 4C
1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
1971 AMC Javelin AMX
2017 Aston Martin DB11
2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
2010 Aston Martin One-77
2017 Audi R8
2015 Audi TTS
2013 Audi RS4 Avant
2011 Audi RS5 Coupe
2011 Audi RS3
1995 Audi RS2 Avant
1986 Audi Sport Quattro S1
1983 Audi Sport Quattro
2016 BMW M4 GTS
2016 BMW M2
2013 BMW M6
2012 BMW M5
2011 BMW Series 1 M Coupe
2008 BMW M3 E92
2005 BMW M3 E46
1997 BMW M3
2011 Bugatti Veyron
2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2015 Dodge Challenger Hellcat
2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
2014 Ferrari FXX K
2013 Ferrari LaFerrari
2012 Ferrari F12
2010 Ferrari 599XX
2003 Ferrari 360 Stradale
1995 Ferrari F50
1987 Ferrar F40
1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
1966 Ferrari 330 P4
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
2017 Ford GT
2017 Ford Focus RS
2016 Ford Shelby GT350R
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
2010 Ford Crown Vic
2009 Ford Focus RS
2005 Ford GT
2003 Ford Focus RS
1993 Ford SVR Cobra
1992 Ford Escort RS
1985 Ford RS200
1981 Ford Fiesta XR2
1973 Ford Capri RS3100
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302
1966 Ford GT MK2
2012 Hennessy Venom GT
2015 Honda Civic Type-R
2009 Honda S2000 CR
2004 Honda Civic Type R
1997 Honda Civic Type R
1992 Honda NSX-R
1992 Hoonigan Porsche RWB
1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800
2011 Hot Wheels Bone Shaker
2016 Jaguar F-Type P7
2015 Jaguar XE-S
1993 Jaguar XJ220
1961 Jaguar E-Type S1
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
2016 Jeep Trailcat
2015 Koenigsegg One:1
2014 Lamborghini Huracan
2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
2011 Lamborghini Gallardo
2010 Lamborghini Murcielago SV
1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
1988 Lamborghini Countach
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
1974 Lancia Stratos HF
2015 Land Rover Range Rover SVR
1969 Lola Penske T70
2016 Lotus 3-Eleven
2012 Lotus Exige S
2002 Lotus Esprit V8
2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
2004 Maserati MC12
2011 Mazda RX-8
1997 Mazda RX-7
2015 McLaren 570S
2015 McLaren 650S
2013 McLaren P1
1993 McLaren F1
2017 M-B AMG GT-R
2013 M-B AMG A45
2009 M-B SL65 AMG
1998 M-B AMG CLK GTR
1986 MG Metro 6R4
2012 Mini JCW GP
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9
2010 Nissan 370Z
2003 Nissan 350Z
2000 Nissan Silvia S15
1998 Nissan R390
1997 Nissan GT-R R33
1995 Nissan GT-R LM
1993 Nissan GT-R R32
1993 Nissan 240SX
1969 Nissan Fairlady Z
2010 Noble M600
2016 Pagani Huayra BC
2010 Pagani Zonda R
2009 Pagani Zonda
1984 Peugeot 205
1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
2016 Porche 911 GT3 RS
2015 Porsche Cayman GTS
2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
2012 Porsche GT3 RS 4.0
2004 Porsche 911 GT3
2003 Porsche Carrera GT
1995 Porsche 911 GT2
1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
2015 Radical RXC Turbo
1980 Renault 5 Turbo
1973 Renault Alpine A110
2004 Saleen S7
2016 Spania GTA Spano
2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
2004 TVR Sagaris
2015 Ultima 1020
1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
1997 Volvo 850R
2016 W Motors Lykan Hypersport
2016 Zenvo ST1
this isn't even an audio issue, you guys are overdramatising this completly
@@effisjens1776 overdramatising yo ass, everyone's tired of this bullshit, when every other game has better sounds than forza, you gotta be a little suspicious at least. Just stop thinking you're the bright one in the crowd
@@gusparlow that's what you say. I'm not tired of this BS, it's the community that is crying over a small detail. Heck, fastlane is calling this is AUDIO ISSUE. I don't get this community nor they get me. At least I show the respect playground deserves. And if you think you can do it better yourself then be my guest
@@effisjens1776 I can't do better myself, BECAUSE IM A PLAYER, NOT A DEVELOPER.
As if every other game isnt better than forza nowadays, I'm just trying to make it a great game again, as once it was.
@@gusparlow and it still is great. The whole community is blinded by its anger and frustration about the car sounds. It's pointless. Plus, just because you're a player doesn't mean you can't volenteer to PG to help recording a car by referencing a dealer or a person that has said car and is interested to help
This really is unacceptable. Engine sounds are at the heart of every racing game...
yet the sounds are good enough for the car roster of FH4
@@effisjens1776 🤔
@@nvl2691 use whatever the heck emoji you see fit. Nobody here understands how difficult it is to record sounds. If you think it's easy, be my guest
effisjens there maybe a lot of cars in fh4 and it’s hard to get a perfect sound for all of them, but that’s not what the video proves, it proves that most of the cars sounded better in older games but for some reason the sounds got worse
@@georgesawyer8745 and that the community is over dramatising is what also is being proven.
Quite sad that biggest thread on the Forza Forums is about car sounds, but still after a year since the release of FH4, they didn't do a thing...
It's not only the sounds, too many bugs are still in the game, boring and never changing Forzathon Live Events, unacceptable Offline traffic on the roads, too long loading times on XBOX, rediculous driver seating positions in outside view, etc... Been playing this shit since day one and gone when there's a better game available...🤣
Sad really but we have to live with it
they shouldnt really. Sounds are good enough for the entire roster, why is everyone overdramatising this
@@effisjens1776 Stop writing comments like this! That much complaining Gamers are not coming out of nowhere! They are mostly longterm car game enthusiasts and know how cars should sound like...😉
@@einautofan6685 still, that doesn't mean they all have to turn this into one large clusterf**k like it is now. Perhaps they all should volunteer to PG for recording the car sounds...actually this is a much better idea then all submitting a ticket under AUDIO ISSUE
And does anyone else get really annoyed at how quick the brakes start glowing for just minor braking??
Lookie Sadines22 i swear to god i noticed that two days ago and questioned it but i never really got into it because i felt it was unnecessary.
It's honestly annoying as fuck I slam my brakes at 30 mph and they're almost on fire 😂
It's ridiculous, just like the car flames. It's just implemented to please the kids that play it, which apparently are the majority.
YEAH!!
daniel ortega ever drive a diesel in the game? Instead of a lil puff of smoke it back fires like a 2j🤦🏻♂️😂
"Yeah lets design the sound of the viper, one of the most iconic sounding cars in gaming history. Thats quite important"
*Makes it angry robot noises*
they recorded an older Viper with a faulty exhaust or something. why? because this is what they had
v10 viper and bmw m5 sounds like shit in fh4 but in forza motorsport 4 it was fantastic sound
It sound like a frog croak.
9:27 who ever designed the viper sounds in FH4 needs to burn in hell
😭😭😭
Yeah, it needs to be more like the Quadra V-Tech except with a higher redline.
F O R B I D D E N V 8
No.
@@Stickfighteranimator yes
To be fair. The Audi R8 in forza horizon 4 sounds amazing and has the best V10 sound out of all. But.. Well.. That's the only one. 😂
Yeah the r8 v10 and the italdesign Zerouno (which uses audi v10) sound amazing in fh4
Subie the McLaren f1 is also a lot better in fh4 as well as the classic mini and the 488
Yea they killed it on the r8 but they have never been able to get huracan deceleration right🤦🏻♂️ blows my mind
KhakiPeach67 It sounds like a 488 with a novitec exhaust
I like 488
That feel when the FH4 Audi RS2 does a better Viper impression than the actual FH4 Viper, lol
FH3*
@@Officialjose86 FH4's as well, lol
i thought u made a mistake on your comment
The Vulcan from fh3 my god gave me chill no kidding
Overall FH3 sounds better :(
Very sad.....
:) for me its cool!
For me its cool cuz i still play forza horizon 3 lol
@@mattyice2099 enjoy the 30 fps shitty game
@@BamiCodm Depends on which Device Your Using!
ARMORED LP fucking degenerate
I have to be honest I love the sounds of the Bugatti’s, and some of the Ferrari’s in Horizon 4
Ferrari's V8 sounds much worse in FH4
Yes, I agree with the Bugatti in FH4
the FH4 Bugatti sounds are the best Bugatti sounds in the entire racing game history lol
@@Mr.Goldbar Yes but only this.Almost all other cars sound SHIT even compared to FH3
@@Elias_g1 search for my long ass comment to see what I truely think
Don't forget we already complained about FH3 sounds a couple of years back. It was nowhere near to perfection, but it was better than this nonsense in audio format we get today.
The sounds they complain uses this format *for testing
yet now many people who said "FH3 sounds like shit" are the same people who say "Why did they not use sounds from FH3??"
I bet when FH5 comes out people'll start praising FH4 just to shit on the new game
don't worry, I'm pretty sure you're not one of thos people
@@Mr.Goldbar Maybe every single old forza fan is getting more annoying over the years..
@@Mr.Goldbar Or maaaaaybe PG games cares more about quantity than quality
@@gusparlow I care about quantity over quality too because I always value variety. I'm also a Forza fan since Horizon 1 and I think the sounds only got better with the exception of FM7
The FH4 sounds sound good at first but then you hear fh3
Lmfao that intro
She kills me 🙍♀️
🚮 🖕 👚 😂😂
👞
I love the gear shift sounds of Forza Horizon 3
Dude, listen this Vulcan!
fh3 Vulcan sounds the best
That supercharged Diablo whining was nice
timing
Or the ariel atom it also sounds so good when shifting
vulcan sounds like a friggin f1 car
So many ppl moaning about sounds, not realising the leading sound engineer Mike Caviezel left after FM6 and FH3, to work for Polyphony Digital on GT Sport. They why the sounds in FM7 and FH4 have changed to much. PG nor T10 can used the sound he did as he owns the copyright to them, as there his work.
Well they need to hire new sound engineers then who actually care about high quality authentic audio. Simple as.
He owns copyrights of the sounds he used in those games? I cant imagine that.
Still, for me this is cheap explanation why everything went wrong. It's not possible that one person can make that difference. You need to remember that there's dedicated team to record car audio. I think that big deal here is quantity and the fact that back in FM4 days, cars where recorded on dynos and not on the tracks like with FH4. And PG don't give a F about car sounds, they did a short video in one of they livestreams on how they record cars and that's it. Case closed. Not guilty.
That doesnt make any sense, the sounds he made while under the contract of PG and T10 are property of them, not him. The real reason is because they switched sound engines.
@@impossibru5721 Exactly.
Omg dude, you had me rolling just from the first 15 seconds!!! 🤣
FH3 Turbo noises are incredible. Awesome...
I agree. I wasn't happy that Playground games didn't copy that sound to Forza Horizon 4.
Also the Viper sounded clean in Forza Horizon 3. In Forza Horizon 4 (the shit version of Forza Horizon 3) Viper sounds like something when someone rub their fingers against the brush.
@@ApexDragon_483 it even sounds like me squeezing my own neck
Why does the BMW m2 have the same engine sound as the skylines?😂
No it's a 2jz
Sounds same with supra from fh3
We need the h3 sound for the m2 and a m2 competition
@@7blockDev yes ITS a 2JZ
@@brandon.nc_ It's*. *It is* a 2JZ. Do u even contraction?
they need to hire the sound department from ghost
Or criterion would be even better!
@@sheebify ghost was literally criterion xd
@@TheNicoxoxD They literally weren't
Ghost has been shut down while criterion will be making the next nfs
@@sheebify that's why i said WAS, dumbo
@@TheNicoxoxD Ghost NEVER had anything to do with criteron dude
I noticed immediately when I first played that some cars’ sound had gotten worse. Like the Jaguar V6 and C7 Corvette Z06, they were spot on in FH3
@@heinman6250 the Chevy V8’s were so good in fh3, but now listening to the z06 sound in fh4 makes me puke badly
Wait wait wait, so you're telling me that the Audi tts share EXACTLY the same sound with the Porsche 919 of fm7
Bruh
Basically what the developers did for every each cars' sound were just alter the sound from the previous assets and tweak them with minor changes, instead of overhaul the sound designs by making a new one. That's a one huge lazy ass effort right there.
And one more thing, WHY DA FUCK is the brake is so quick to glow even for just minor braking? It's so annoying!
@Jimmi Johnson it is cool instead of annoying
@@youssef1770 having your brakes looking like they’re about to melt after braking at 30mph isn’t good
32:40 yes
Omg that sound turns me onnn
Yeah im getting fh3
I will say.... Fh3 has better car sounds, and fh4 has better pops and backfire
Fh2 had the best pops and backfires, *change my mind*
@@weonvirtual FH4 Sucks
@@ApexDragon_483 especially the viper in fh4
Still cant get over the hennessy venom, in horizon 3 it sounded exactly like every video I've ever watched of one, IT WAS PERFECT!
In 4 it just sounds like a N/A corvette ;(
@@supahotfire777 It’s really bad how strange it sounds in fh4, it sounds good in fh5 though
Seems like the focus was on clothes and emotes, not sounds.
Really decent video, it was time someone made it happen :))
I really didn't appreciate the engine sounds from FH3, but looking back they're the clear winner here
Unacceptable. Share this video with other big name Forza players like EricShip111, RacingMonkey, DonJoeWonSong twitter. Then Playground will notice when alll the UA-camrs talk about it.
People think its a small matter. Hell no. Imagine playing COD or FIFA or another tripleA game and you have lame sound effects the community would flip. The car sound forum is the largest on the Forums. It tells you something. They need to hire better sound engineers no question about it.
Shared it. I'm fed up of the lame audio. They need to fire the current team and hire a new one who are actually interested in good quality audio for games.
its not necesarry. Sounds are good enough for the car roster. The current team is doing a good job with the game and make barely any mistakes. And no, car sounds arent one of them
Well sounds are the reason I left it so I would suggest it is neccesary
@@apocnl well that's your problem. The fact is that sounds are good enough for size of the car roster so it's not necessary
@@effisjens1776 uhm no thats absolutely not a fact. Its your opinion and I have an opposite one. Just as a lot of viewers of this video.
Respect! Only you know how much efford you put in this Video.
FH4 sounds incomplete... in their livestreams I remember one of the audio guys said that 'they wanted more engine sound than exhaust', which tells you how high above the clouds their minds are... the exhaust sound is what gives that final detail to a car (it's one of the reasons NFS Heat shows a lot of potential)
if it's not broken, why fix it?
Yeah the sounds really have gotten worst but I've noticed something. If two players have the same car, for example the viper, the other player actually has the better sound on the same persons screen
I think I know what you mean. Like the P1 sound on FH4 is bad but when you listen to it when a friend is in next to you revving it, it's the P1 sound from FM7. Much better sound and it's not the only car that like that, the Chiron is another one.
@@VerticalStrafes Yes that's what I mean, it works on a couple of cars. Also thankyou for wording it better :)
LOL I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this.
@@dp12480 that bullshit gets me irritated
@@thatboyking8006 I know, cause it shows that they have the correct sound but cant sync it right
Fh4 would be the perfect game if the sounds are better and there was a bit more customization
and more details too for the vehicles, raindrops, grass, vehicle wet ness, trees,and a map 2X also more people
@@DJShellingz nah they are ok. Maybe water drops on car glasses should be better but the main improvements must be sounds and customization.
The engine sounds is the last reason why I think this game sucks.
atleast they have good cars
For fh5 add a map big as crew, add customization similar to crew or nfs, add a actual story(a interesting story like how og racing games used to be with action and some drama) and best of all Good car sounds then bam💣👌🏾
13:04
*Look how they massacred my boy...*
The one coming in FH5 sounds glorious, though!
@@mj.6408 indeed it does.
Bro hennessey venom gt is even more horrible in fh4, and plus the fh5 one from low rev range is awful, sounds nothing like a V6
@@Controller8907The Venom has a V8, of course it sounds nothing like a V6 💀
@@FiatUno2003 I’m talking about ford gt
Does anyone else like a mix of the two? E.G. The cars that sound more aggressive/throaty or the cars that are softer and more subtle.
THAT GENUINE ALPACA I think that accelerations overall sound better in 3 and decelerations sounds better in 4 for the most part
THAT GENUINE ALPACA
Right. Some cars sound better in FH4, but then you have the other half that sounds better in FH3.
@@Akuxz And engine sounds seem generally better in cockpit cam. Exhausts are trash
@@jacobbrianbeats562yea you're wrong on the last part ngl
@@elionthatblock9612 rebudle from 4 year old comments… these games sound like complete shit, period
Maybe the whole sound budget went into the mclarens
Ay thanks for all the effort homie, love
They really need to fix the AMG V8. It’s a 4.0L TT V8 the same audio as the 6.2L V8
That turbo on The Hoonigan Escort
20:00 damn that turbo flutter sounds great
xXshockwaveXx sounds shit
Still think some of the FH2 sounds were even better than the FH3 sounds. Specifically the Honda engines (other than Mugen CRX) and the skylines.
FH4 exhaust pop: lil' popcorn maker
FH3 exhaust pop: WAR FLASHBACKS
They have improve the sounds on certain brands (like lambo), but have on the contrary totaly nailed other brands like mclaren (exept the F1).
Dior 2001 in the back, love it! :DD
Natürlich alter 😏
@@fastlanegaming geiler kanal
@@fastlanegaming nach 8 Monaten wieder hier, liebe dieses Video :D
so much effort thank you for that
I don't know why they don't just copy paste the sounds of FH3 to FH4 !
To me fh4 is quantity over quality
That would be the crew 2
i'm gonna be honest, i love the sound of the R8 V10 in FH4.
i totally agree with you
Sounds like crap lol
3:35 Close your eyes and hear it, If it revved a bit lower it sounds like a koenigsegg doesnt it?
The sport Quattro s1 in fh3 is orgasmic
I agree. My favourite sounding car in Forza Horizon 3 with the Manta 400 ;)
Horizon 3 will forever be my favorite Forza game(it was my first ever Xbox game to be honest)
22:40, Did anyone notice this actually sounds much different from the Lamborghini Huracan FH3, This is the FH2 sound file.
He is using the Huracan Horizon Edition, For some reason it sounds different from the normal Huracan
The only time fh4 is better than fh3 is the r8 lmao
and the F1 :)
This didn't age well ofc smh
37:33 😍
37:22 Look how they massacred my boy 😔
41:46 oh yeah that's definitely a Pontiac firebird
Also fh4 no surprise sounds are ass
Yeah that’s not a Pontiac Firebird
Amazing my friend, FH3 seems to have more tuned sounds than FH4, a beautiful symphony 🫠🫠🫠.
why does the m2 sound more like the r34 than the r34 does in horizon 4 🤦🏼♂️
Nice work man
FH4 legit just put a crackle tune on everything
This is why i started playing fh3 again
Same
@@ashtonbackup934 Me too. I got rid of FH4 and downloaded and started playing FH3 again.
The Avant RS4 blow off sounds like a squeaky toy in FH4 lol
As a game developer myself, here's my take on this entire situation:
If this was an indie game, the sounds would've been fixed within a few months. If many players are strongly fighting for something to be changed in your game, you HAVE to listen to them, even if you only can work with halfway compromises. Work on the car sounds should have been started the moment people were talking about how dissatisfied they were with them, because it's beyond important to communicate and work with your fans. Yes, sometimes fans demand things that are way out of scope, but better sounds? That's doable, especially if other sounds like natural foliage is top notch and things like the graphic fidelity get so much attention (except for the player character animations they look awful, DiRT 5's hands look better lmao)
These devs need to do their research, listen to real life cars as well as player's favorites from other games, really get a clear understanding of what they like/don't like. Put out surveys and tests if you have to, get some of the most expensive and skilled audio engineers money can hire, do absolutely whatever it takes to regain player trust because at this point any bond between players and the devs is non existent at this point, hardcore players pretty much straight up hate the devs.
If they don't improve Horizon 5 in all aspects, and really try to "wow" players, I won't be getting the 5th game, and many others won't either. You HAVE to listen to your playerbase, especially if they're metaphorically chucking rocks at you.
For my platformer game, I've had players tell me they didn't like the twin stick control scheme, so I changed it to a more traditional feeling one, and they like it much better, and I like it too! See? Even I can listen to players. Hell, I even updated the sounds in my own game for things like player weapons; had to spend some money buying sound assets but I didn't go cheap and it paid off. I tried to get the best sounding effects I could find and players seem to be happy with them.
If a single college student making some lame action platformer can update the sound effects for his game, a corporate studio can do the same.
The worst part is that they don't seem to know what make some sound especially horrible. Some of the worst offenders I can think of is the Pulsar/A45/Focus RS etc exhaust rasp, the first gen Focus RS exhaust 'rumble', the Subaru 'rumble' and Camaro ZL1 'rumble'...
@@RS-nq8xk yeah there's this disconnection between the devs and understanding car sounds. Feels like they didn't do any research or at least aren't passionate enough to care 🤔
Got fh5 last night. Biggest audio set back 😩
I really like your video, but I would have preferred if you would have played the sound while standing still and started, but otherwise a really nice video.😊
30:19 Will Gollop's 6R4 Biturbo livery... That's class my friend...😉
The Dodge Viper sounds like farts in a bath, multiple cars have no turbo blow off or no supercharger whine, and the cars which do have turbo blow off sound like the choked garble of a turkey.
I agree. If you refer to Forza Horizon 4
The best viper sound imo is
The fh4 srt10 FD
@@Controller8907 That's the sound of Viper ACR '16 from Forza Horizon 3. I modify sound file so that FH4 Viper ACR also sounds like FH3 Viper ACR. I tried the same for Bugatti Veyron but didn't work.
@@ApexDragon_483 im talking about normal, not modified
@@Controller8907 I know. Without sound file modification. It sounds garbage. Had to modify it's sound everytime before playing.
I wouldnt have minded if they delayed FH4 to make sure everything was perfect. Sounds and all, to me it's a discrace that a game 2 years older has better sounds
Fh3 has the upper hand, ngl I miss the Fh3 sounds.
I sacrificed Forza Horizon 4 for 3. And it was worth. FH3 sounds are a lot better.
@@ApexDragon_483 if you ask me about the Chevy V8’s in fh4, it sucks
@@Controller8907 I agree. That's one of the reasons why I uninstalled FH4. I am keeping FH3.
41:46 nice Pontiac bro
I still love the engine in horizon 3 cause they sound so majestic and so perfect especially the vipers , skylines , bmw's , and Lamborghini's
*Yeah, the R34 we don't have to explain, we all know how shit it sounds now 😂*
Yo. Spitfire
Thanks so much for the video
the v6 ford gt in 4 and the mclaren f1 and ultima 1020 in 3 actually hurt to listen to, all in their own awful ways lol
You need to share this witb Playground games and share it other big Forza UA-camrs so they cover it, RacingMonkey, AR12, EricShip111 so Playground see it and ACTUALLY do something about it instead. I'm not having this in next gen Forzas.
Yes! 100%. He needs to share it with them on Twitter or something. So in the next game we don't have this issue
I shared it with JakeXVX and EricShip111. Its about time the devs listen.
The Racing Monkey, Johnson Racing, Pixelhelden, Zitrone Formel 77, LPN05 too!
Our most known german UA-camrs!😎
pointless and not necesarry, car sounds are good for the roster size
@@effisjens1776 Nope they're terrible I've played all the Horizons and this game has easily the worst and least authentic sounds. Imagine if any other triple A game had lame sounds for guns and characters etc people would flip. Same comes to this. Its the biggest thread on the forums for a reason
I'd love to actually hear some proper shifts that correspond to each car. Hearing a TT/45 AMG/etc without DSG sounds funky.
*Even GTA V has better car sounds than FH4*
Naaaah
That’s a big stretch
Whelp, the cars from GTA5 are fictional while FH4 used real liscense cars.
Every car in fh4 is using Mario kart sound with its own engine
Bro I miss the sound of the laferrari from fh3 so much
When you watch the comparison, you can definitely see some improvement but also some steps backward. It’s not all bad
The rotarys in fh3 where so much better to the point you could hear the braps when they idle.
I think this video shows that Forza Horizon 4's car sounds are actually very good. Yes there could be some tweaks and changes here and there, but overall I think there is a lot of improvement. I don't think there should be as much hate as there is for the sounds.
Some cars in forza h 4 sounds the same
@@mrfishsticks266 most*
So much work in this video
They are literally using Mario kart engine sounds in fh4
I don’t understand. People that are thinking or even say one thing is better than this like what’s happening now, Play the god damn game. Who cares people think this is better. You should be grateful that the Forza community does.
Has anyone noticed the difference in Subaru sounds between both games? Fh3 sound smooth and wonderful and fh4 sound like they haven’t had an oil change in 15 years!😂
Der gute RIN beat im hintergrund, ehre
Plus Fast Lane Gaming hopefully your hard work pays off with the sounds from FH3 to 4. I like to at least keep the mclaren F1 sound. Sounds better than the one in fh3
Overall conclusion from this is that most csr sounds are too refined or high pitched
Lower the pitch and it would make it sound deeper giving it a more realistic tone especially in higher revs
you might be confused between pitch and frequency
adding bass or removing treble isn't lowering pitch, the pitch is the actual note
Ah yes thanks
@@a4jc28 I have perfect pitch and as you can see from the profile pic I'm a guitar player, so I get a little too sensitive about pitch lol
In FH3 the Lamborghinis sound like Lamborghinis and Ferraris sound like Ferraris
so is in every Forza game.
not a good argument
Are you kidding bro check the huracan and murcielargo
@@Mr.Goldbaryou sound dum stop talking lol
There's a lot of minor details that Horizon 4 is missing from Horizon 3. The daytime running lights on cars are either off or extremely dim compared to Horizon 3. On cars with handbrakes there's an animation where your hand goes off the wheel and reaches for the handbrake in Horizon 3 when they should always be on. Horizon 4 doesn't have that. When driving through sand during night time the particles behind the car glow bright when you brake in Horizon 3. Also, Horizon 3 just looks more beautiful compared to Horizon 4. Colors are much more vibrant
jesus christ the ferrari f50 in fh4 sounds like a fucking mosquito
I don't know why, but it is always the 4th game in a series when everything starts to go downhill. Same with movies.
haha true
Well, Forza Motorsport 4 was the peak Forza game in my opinion
@@Maccil yeah other than FM4
Next Forza I wanna see right lane driving, better sounds again and antilag :3
The people that did the audio for FM6 and FH3 did the audio for GTSport.
Because u put FH4 before than 3, it looks like it was an upgrade... But it was the complete oposite😂
Even the venom gt look in real how this monster screams, in forza I feel like driving a mustang
I think that FH3 has *overall* better sounds/audio. Some of them in FH4 have a better low-mid rev range sound like the Huracan and the R8 etc... while the cars in FH3 overall have e better rev range of sounds and accurate/realistic to the engine type. Tho i love how some people who defend FH4's overall car sounds always come up with the worst excuses ever made, like; "FH4 has a lot more cars in it's car list, so we shouldn't complain about how it doesn't sound as good. If you think it's so easy then go find the "X car" from 50 years ago and go record it on an airfield in proper weather to get the proper sound!"
Look i know it's hard to do these things, and i'm not a developer/coder, let alone a sound designer, so i can't act or say that it's easy, but from what i'm looking at FH3 had these cars already and they had good/better sounds, yet for some reason the same cars in FH3 sound worse in FH4 ? How does that make any sense ? And is quantity a good excuse to ignore quality ? This is my problem with that dumb excuse, i don't care how many cars we have in FH4, half the cars in it aren't even used as much. Why put in tons of cars if you can't give them good quality (sounds as an example) ? It's suppose to be quality over quantity, that's why other games with a smaller car list have better sounds. It's because they chew what they can swallow, they don't bite off more then they can chew, and then be to lazy to swallow it down. Again i know it's not easy, but if they were smart about it they would first look at the amount of cars they can record/handle and work with, based on that quantity they will look for the cars that are easy to find, record, and put detail on for the quality, and in that they will also search for the cars that are in high demand or ask the players what they want to see in the next game for a good idea and inspiration. This way you get the proper quality sounds, the proper quantity of a car list that everyone can enjoy. They can also build up on this to increase the size of the car list for players and content, they won't always be perfect and we understand that, and we won't complain as long as they improve over time, but in the case of FH4 we already know they can be better since they are in FH3. I went on a full on rant there but i just wanted to give my thoughts really, if anyone disagrees that's fine, it's our opinions after all.
Couldn't have said it better myself !
And one thing: The quality drop is less significant in cockpit view.
Thank you spitting the long cold truth!
Picked up fh5 last night and it’s just as bad
With the exception of a few cars, Horizon 3 sounded much better, let’s just hope it only gets better from here.
There's so much inconsistency in Horizon. It drives me nuts. You should one comparing the cockpit view sounds. That's where the differences really show.
Do the same scenario of La Casa Del Papel in the studio of Turn 10 for make an uptade 😂
I hate that all V12’s are just based on the Ferrari V12 noise. The sound of the High reving V8’s in the RS4/5 and M3 are awful and generic FH3 was better, and they’ve given all the AMG’s the exact same sound. When there’s quite a difference from the 6.2 5.5 and 4.0. They’ve really butchered the sounds in this game which sometimes makes it so hard to play.
4:32 THEY NAILED IT! EVEN THAT DAMM FLUTTER OMG
4:23 Why. Just... Why
Personally I like the fh4 engine sound, but I do prefer the fh3 turbo sound