Nice to see your HBA read the IOM3.. Also appreciate your comments on raids and how adamant you were about external backups of important data. It made me really think/convinced/motivated me to backup some data on a external server! Thanks for that.. I used to love taking a nap while DS9 was on. It made me have the wildest dreams!
Great Job. Actually you are the only one explained VDIS & Pools which i appreciate. Few questions: Can you share DIsks/Pool benchmarks. Does it support large SATA3 HD like 12TB? What HBA & Cables are you using? Thanks a lot
I bought the HBA off of ebay and is titled: "LSI SAS9207-8e 8-Port External HBA PCIe P20 IT Mode for ZFS FreeNAS BOTH BRACKET" The cable to connect to the netapp shelf I bought off of ebay as well. It is titled: "QSFP(SFF-8436) to MiniSAS(SFF-8088) DDR Cable, 1-Meter 3.3ft" As for the size of drives. I only have the 500 gig drives atm. I would like to buy 8tb ironwolf drives but it takes time to save up. I want to buy six at a time.
@@SimpleSilicon Can you share benchmarks with your existing setup. As per NetApp website DS4243 supports maximum 3TB but it could be outdated information. I think you better check before buying your dream HD's :)
I'm doing a similar setup, the disk shelf powers on without issue but the minute the server is powered on, once the hba initialize the ember light on the disk shelf shows. In hba bios, it does not detect any of the disks. Are you able to advise?
@@SimpleSilicon In Ubuntu 20, I can see the card under lspci, sg scan does not show any disks, the sas connector light on back of the shelf does not light up as well. The shelf is using IOM6. I double checked the cable ordered from China is marked 8088 to QSFP on the order, Could this be the issue?
Hello, nice work you have done, but, I have 1 HP Proliant 360 that has 2x10 GB internet ports and also have 4 NetApp Disk Shelf that takes 24x2.5 inch disk... My question is, there is any possibility to connect them all together using Ethernet Cat 6 cables? or only can be by SAS. I would like to have all them connected together, but i am new on this. if you can help me I would appreciate that. Thanks
You're obviously a knowledgeable dude... but, I really would've liked a little more info about the DS ... I would LOVE to know the performance using the netapps -- vs, identical config with an HBA like an LSI 9208i or whatever ... So I GET what their role is. DO Netapp DS actually change the performance of VDevs..? Or are they merely a big case with extra power supplies ...? As in: Can they possibly unfuck the situation I'm having in which 8x 10TB 7200rpm drives can't break 200MB/s ...? Even in a Xeon v2 with 48GB 1333 ECC over 10GbE ...? you know...? Do these offer the physical slots, a power supply, method for ID-ing devices ... etc ... or do they have an impact on performance..? Thanks!
Not that i am aware of. Level 1 techs uses this with 8 tb drives and they didn't have any issues. I did upgrade the iom3 modules to iom6. I found some on ebay for a couble bucks. They work better with larger drives but iom3 shouldn't have too much trouble. Your just need to look at the spec sheet.
Does anyone here know how to make OEM harddrives mountet on Netapp drive caddys work at a Netapp DE6600 storage/expansion?? I need to expand capacity and the system is out of service and Netapp can’t supply the drives (Netapp partnumber E-X4074A or E-X4121A) thank you all in advance
Hey, I'm looking into these shelves atm. As you showed in your last video they ramp up quite a bit with 3 psus instead of 4. How does it perform with 4? Is it something you still hear 2 rooms down the hall?
@@SimpleSilicon like those E-Sata ports nobody ever used? lol Got it. I'm still waiting to get my server at the moment, just one more month!! In the mean time, I'm using an old laptop as a FreeNAS server, just to do some practicing/testing. It keeps over heating at the mere thought of a VM, but I did manage to load a Ubuntu, and a Windows VM onto it at around 0400 one morning, while it was snowing. Temps did hit around 97-99 during the Windows install! The share is stable and streams well.(The laptops internal 500Gb HDD - FreeNAS is installed onto a 64GB SD card.) One problem I'm having though is that one of the household PC's is loaded with Windows Home, and cant see the network share...
@@PupShepardRubberized I think I'll dive into that after the server is up and running. The laptop is an old 2010 Thinkpad and not really all that capable anyway. Also do not eat a Cadbury's Flake over your nice keyboard while trying to type!
I am unfamiliar with that netapp product; however, as long as all the disks present themselves individually to freenas, you should be able to set this up.
@@SimpleSilicon Hi,many tks for your reply.it would be great help if you can post the picture of cable "mini SAS to QSFP HBA" or if you can email me sait_in@yahoo.com. iam searching for this cable all over Singapore after seeing your post and no clue till this moment.
This is the one i bought www.ebay.com/itm/QSFP-SFF-8436-to-MiniSAS-SFF-8088-DDR-Cable-1-Meter-3-3ft/332690922598?pageci=d169e2dd-59d9-4479-9b89-19aeed9a5d5f
I was wondering if I could get your skype ID so I can chat with you about this setup. I do need some assistance with coming up with a setup to meet my needs. Thanks in advance.
From a storage administrators perspective your setup is not good. A) Pool Layout Your pool layout is way to redundant, therefore you're wasting a lot of space/disks. In best circumstances you can loose eight disks (2 per vdev). Sounds great but does this scenario happen? It also means a waste of 8*0,5TB= ~4TB data and you don't have any hot-spares. Theres no best layout, but (as usual) it depends on your needs. B) Hot-Spares Always go for hot-spare if you plan to run the system 24/7. At least one disk per pool. In your scenario better take 2.
Nice to see your HBA read the IOM3.. Also appreciate your comments on raids and how adamant you were about external backups of important data. It made me really think/convinced/motivated me to backup some data on a external server! Thanks for that.. I used to love taking a nap while DS9 was on. It made me have the wildest dreams!
how much does it weight without drives
Here for the disk shelf content, staying for the DS9 references. :D
Great Job. Actually you are the only one explained VDIS & Pools which i appreciate. Few questions: Can you share DIsks/Pool benchmarks. Does it support large SATA3 HD like 12TB? What HBA & Cables are you using? Thanks a lot
I bought the HBA off of ebay and is titled:
"LSI SAS9207-8e 8-Port External HBA PCIe P20 IT Mode for ZFS FreeNAS BOTH BRACKET"
The cable to connect to the netapp shelf I bought off of ebay as well. It is titled:
"QSFP(SFF-8436) to MiniSAS(SFF-8088) DDR Cable, 1-Meter 3.3ft"
As for the size of drives. I only have the 500 gig drives atm. I would like to buy 8tb ironwolf drives but it takes time to save up. I want to buy six at a time.
@@SimpleSilicon Can you share benchmarks with your existing setup. As per NetApp website DS4243 supports maximum 3TB but it could be outdated information. I think you better check before buying your dream HD's :)
I'm doing a similar setup, the disk shelf powers on without issue but the minute the server is powered on, once the hba initialize the ember light on the disk shelf shows. In hba bios, it does not detect any of the disks. Are you able to advise?
Do the disks show up in the os on the server? I was thinking that in hba mode the card may not show the disks.
@@SimpleSilicon In Ubuntu 20, I can see the card under lspci, sg scan does not show any disks, the sas connector light on back of the shelf does not light up as well. The shelf is using IOM6. I double checked the cable ordered from China is marked 8088 to QSFP on the order, Could this be the issue?
Hmmm. Linux isn't my strong suit. I would ask the linux community on level 1 techs. Wendell has this exact storage shelf.
Hello, nice work you have done, but, I have 1 HP Proliant 360 that has 2x10 GB internet ports and also have 4 NetApp Disk Shelf that takes 24x2.5 inch disk...
My question is, there is any possibility to connect them all together using Ethernet Cat 6 cables? or only can be by SAS.
I would like to have all them connected together, but i am new on this. if you can help me I would appreciate that.
Thanks
You're obviously a knowledgeable dude... but, I really would've liked a little more info about the DS ... I would LOVE to know the performance using the netapps -- vs, identical config with an HBA like an LSI 9208i or whatever ... So I GET what their role is. DO Netapp DS actually change the performance of VDevs..? Or are they merely a big case with extra power supplies ...?
As in: Can they possibly unfuck the situation I'm having in which 8x 10TB 7200rpm drives can't break 200MB/s ...? Even in a Xeon v2 with 48GB 1333 ECC over 10GbE ...? you know...?
Do these offer the physical slots, a power supply, method for ID-ing devices ... etc ... or do they have an impact on performance..?
Thanks!
Is there a drive cap like 2TB? meaning that it will only see 2TB's no matter how big the drive is.
Not that i am aware of. Level 1 techs uses this with 8 tb drives and they didn't have any issues. I did upgrade the iom3 modules to iom6. I found some on ebay for a couble bucks. They work better with larger drives but iom3 shouldn't have too much trouble. Your just need to look at the spec sheet.
Does anyone here know how to make OEM harddrives mountet on Netapp drive caddys work at a Netapp DE6600 storage/expansion??
I need to expand capacity and the system is out of service and Netapp can’t supply the drives (Netapp partnumber E-X4074A or E-X4121A)
thank you all in advance
Hey, I'm looking into these shelves atm. As you showed in your last video they ramp up quite a bit with 3 psus instead of 4. How does it perform with 4? Is it something you still hear 2 rooms down the hall?
Noise is second to cooling. The expectation is that it will be loud
I've been doing some research on these Disk Shelfs for home use. Have you tried with 4K sata disks?
Remember. Raid isn't a backup. Unless you use somebody else's raid as a backup!!
how are you connected to the disk shelf and server? Is it just RJ45?
Qsfp to mini sas. Its connected by an HBA. Think of it like a pcie sata expansion card for your home pc
@@SimpleSilicon like those E-Sata ports nobody ever used? lol Got it. I'm still waiting to get my server at the moment, just one more month!! In the mean time, I'm using an old laptop as a FreeNAS server, just to do some practicing/testing. It keeps over heating at the mere thought of a VM, but I did manage to load a Ubuntu, and a Windows VM onto it at around 0400 one morning, while it was snowing. Temps did hit around 97-99 during the Windows install! The share is stable and streams well.(The laptops internal 500Gb HDD - FreeNAS is installed onto a 64GB SD card.) One problem I'm having though is that one of the household PC's is loaded with Windows Home, and cant see the network share...
@@GunnerRA155 you may want to try re-applying the thermal paste.
@@PupShepardRubberized I think I'll dive into that after the server is up and running. The laptop is an old 2010 Thinkpad and not really all that capable anyway.
Also do not eat a Cadbury's Flake over your nice keyboard while trying to type!
@simple Silicon is it possible to do this config in NETAPP FAS 2040S ?
I am unfamiliar with that netapp product; however, as long as all the disks present themselves individually to freenas, you should be able to set this up.
@@SimpleSilicon Hi,many tks for your reply.it would be great help if you can post the picture of cable "mini SAS to QSFP HBA" or if you can email me sait_in@yahoo.com. iam searching for this cable all over Singapore after seeing your post and no clue till this moment.
This is the one i bought www.ebay.com/itm/QSFP-SFF-8436-to-MiniSAS-SFF-8088-DDR-Cable-1-Meter-3-3ft/332690922598?pageci=d169e2dd-59d9-4479-9b89-19aeed9a5d5f
What is watt consumption of this equipment?
Was around 180 idle. In use i didnt see it go above 220w but your milage may vary
@@SimpleSilicon only the 4243? or with server?
I was wondering if I could get your skype ID so I can chat with you about this setup. I do need some assistance with coming up with a setup to meet my needs. Thanks in advance.
From a storage administrators perspective your setup is not good.
A) Pool Layout
Your pool layout is way to redundant, therefore you're wasting a lot of space/disks. In best circumstances you can loose eight disks (2 per vdev). Sounds great but does this scenario happen? It also means a waste of 8*0,5TB= ~4TB data and you don't have any hot-spares. Theres no best layout, but (as usual) it depends on your needs.
B) Hot-Spares
Always go for hot-spare if you plan to run the system 24/7. At least one disk per pool. In your scenario better take 2.
one two three four five.,..s*x....haha.. anyway nice vid tho... ;)