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@@Kashie2 He was a bully in the first movie (as were a lot of the characters). But he had amazing character development. Can't say the same for Jonah though. Lol
My ex-boyfriend would tell me how much he loved how i looked in short shorts, but when he found out i was wearing them to the gym, he flipped. He couldn't stand the idea of other men checking me out. The thing is, they weren't. They were respectful and kept their eyes to themselves. He was the only creep, routinely checking out other girls' asses directly in front of me. I threw the whole man out. 🙂
That jealousy sh*t is disgusting. Who cares who’s looking? Like, seriously?? How small can a person be to flip out over that? In the case of Jonah Hill, I think it really figures he called himself a “feminist” and called out toxic masculinity, just to turn around and be that very thing. Go figure… that’s how it usually goes.
It's emotional blackmail. He knew these things about her in the beginning, waited until she was emotionally invested in the relationship and would fear losing it, then made demands for her to change or he would leave her.
Either that, or enough abusive narcissists procreated and as a result, much more people are genuinely narcissistic abusers now. My mom, for example. No pinata party here.
And gaslighting! God I see so many people misuse gaslighting. It’s so annoying. And trauma bonding is another one but this seems to mainly get misused on tiktok
They seem to be the new trendy words. Like any type of asshole behavior is narcissistic or abusive. When it could just be they are an asshole 🤣🤣🤣 it doesn't need to have a fancy word. It can just be they are a dickhead. 🤣
@@MG-pj2oothere are real narcissist. Its not throwing the word around if your mom is an actual narcissist to call her one. However as example everyone ive met with undiagnosed bpd got called a narcissist when they were just acting out and trying to feel better to cope with overwhelming emotions that they couldn't place. Also I've seen many chads call women narcissists for wearing makeup. There's more examples obviously but I feel like my comment is long enough 😂 It does gets thrown around like candy by many people.
@@nohandleplsThat's the same thing that narcissists do, they lack emotional coping strategies so they result to subconscious manipulation to get their needs met.
@@missourimongoose8858 lol yes, telling someone what to do is controling. If he didn't want to date an influencer who posts pics, he shouldn't have asked her out. Did you even watch the vid?
@@TheEggIsHere he told her what he wants in a partner and she agreed and now that it's over she wants people to feel sorry for her, just like 99% of woman these days she wants to take exactly zero responsibility for her own actions lol
I am embarrassed by the fact he went to therapy and instead of using it to get better he used it to manipulate, control and lie. He is a cheating hypocrite who projected his own dishonest behavior on his girlfriend. Cheating on your pregnant girlfriend? Dude no, just no you are scum. Sexting with your ex is definitely cheating and he knows it because his "boundaries" didn't even allow his ex to text with acquaintances for business purposes.
Jonah talking about having “Crippling Anxiety” like people all over the world don’t have anxiety and mental health issues and still treat their partners well.
I respected Jonah Hill standing up for himself in interviews when people were still trying to put him in that box of the dorky comedic relief or "the fat guy". I wanted to believe he was a male feminist, but it stunk of "male feminist until it's inconvenient for me." I'm all for setting boundaries, but there's a difference between that and being insecure, controlling, and having unrealistic expectations. Honestly feels like, intentional or not, he was weaponizing his personal growth to manipulate Sarah. Reminds me of somebody I'm thankful is no longer in my life.
As someone who covers up due to religious reasons, I thought he was being unreasonable. If you start dating someone whose job is to surf and you started off the relationship by making heart eyes at a surfing pic, then you can't then turn around and expect them to stop when that's their job. Insecurities can creep in and it's human to feel that way, but you can't use your insecurities to stop someone from doing their job or promote themselves. It would be like meeting someone who wanted to be with a Muslim woman, only to then ask me to take my hijab off when they "got" me. It's the same thing. You went to someone accepting who they are, only to tell them to change into something else.
Yeah, I was kind of on his side in the beginning because the way he was talking about it seemed polite and like maybe there was something that happened to cause the change, but like the more I watched this video the more I kind of feel like they both are wrong. He literally asked a surfer out bc she was a surfer and then asked her to stop, and i thought she maybe like flirted with someone and that caused a change but yeah...I dont see them really reference something like that...so yeah thats all on him then. He shouldn't have been so wishy washy as well because that does feel a bit manipulative, and she needs to stand up for herself. If you're in a relationship you are two people bringing yourselves together and if the other person is trying to change your core values and structure you need to have the hard sit down discussion and accept that the relationship might just not work out. Basically he seems very insecure and shod look into therapy before thinking about another relationship and she needs a bit more backbone and pride in what she brings and who she is for her next one. Edit: wow...made it further in and he CHEATED? Hell no. He is like far more in the wrong. I am fully switched. Hypocrisy and cheating is so not okay and I cant believe any video could cut that out (I hadn't seen that bit before)
I agree. Asking a woman to cover up for fear of that "male gaze" coming from other men is a sign of massive insecurity. I've started noticing a trend now of large groups of men only wanting to date virgin women (even if they're 30 years old) and showing absolutely zero middle ground or sense of proportionality and it's all because they can't handle other men. Some of the nicest men and women I ever met where actually porn producers, porn stars and swingers ironically.
Jonah's logic is like him picking an apple and losing his shit over the apple tasting like an apple and looking like an apple. he needs more help than he can ever get.
That's what drives me insane. I'm extremely averse to alcohol because of trauma. Anytime I spoke to potential long term partners I would make clear that I am averse to alcohol and not only don't drink it myself but never want to be around people who do. I actually said to my boyfriend when I started to want more (before we got together) I said to him look I'm averse to alcohol, your a grown man and can drink all you want but if you want to be in my life I can't have you drinking around me, if drinking is a regular thing for you I can't continue and if its not then I'd appreciate a warning if you are drinking. He's not a big drinker anyway but he appreciated that I was upfront about that and other things like that
I'm sorry but when things start getting really serious in a relationship...certain things are expected. And standards begin to change and things that may have been ok in the past....need to be rethought. So let's not pretend that she's entitled to do whatever she wants to do because that's how it started. Things change in relationships. Especially when it starts to get really serious. She isn't entitled to a relationship with him. If she has a problem with that...which she clearly does. That's her problem. She was given a choice and was given respectfully. She chose not to do it. And NOW she's upset....?? Nah.
“Stop explaining yourself to fools and allow them to be fools. A brother that’s strong, believes in himself and willing to stand for what he believes in will always be judged by fools of all ethnicities.” -Coach Prime Time. Keep doing your thing, Jonah Hill.
@@mr.fettesq.7705why? Why not just go with a woman who behaves the way you want initially? If certain behaviors are needed and there are women who behave that way why not date them versus saying “things need to change”? Do you expect men in relationships to avoid speaking to female coworkers? Men are more sexually loose no? Do men in relationships stop going shirtless at the beach?
@@PrettyLittleHeretic regardless of all of that, people make concessions in relationships all the dang time! Relationships are about compromises and being able to figure out if you are compatible in the long run. We can speculate all the live long day about how he never should have gotten with her in the first place blah blah etc.....sure fine. But that's not always real life. And a person has every right to be able to decide something isn't working for them, speak to their partner about it and discuss....and then decide whether or not to take the relationship forward. In this case they choose not to continue. And that is perfectly OK. Nothing abusive or manipulating about it. And that's the point
What bothered me the most was that he slid into her dms commenting how he liked those bikini pics…and then once they were dating, told her to delete those SAME pictures! Like she’s a surfer and has to market herself but he’s passive-aggressively telling her to remove the EXACT pictures that drew HIM in! 28:10
well from his perspective it’s logical. ‘cause if he jerked off to her pics and decided to slide into her dms, than any other joe shmoe can do the same! and it bothers his insecure ass baaaad 😅
I guess the logic here is that he recognizes that he slid into her DMs because of those pics, and fears that other men would do the same. The problem is that he’s ignoring her agency in all of this. She can chose not to interact with those DMs. As her bf he should be able to trust her to not engage, but he can’t. He isn’t ready for any relationship if that’s the case.
As a male, lemme just say, bro was in the wrong 100%. He's got a lot of issues and put it on her. Dude needs to step away from Hollywood and work on himself before entering any kind of relationship. He shouldn't expect someone to change just to accommodate him.
Yeah, he should've figured this out about his preferences earlier, he knew about her lifestyle from the beginning. Waiting until she was emotionally invested in the relationship and would fear losing it to basically tell her that he had a problem with so much of who she was was some emotionally manipulative bullshit.
100% in the wrong? This is where you lose all respect. Nobody is 100% in the wrong when it comes to mostly everything. There is ZERO nuance in your opinion. Shits wild. A bunch of people on the internet speaking for someone else. There's a way to share your opinion without stating your opinion as a FACT. YALL WEIRD. anyway...
I’ve heard so many stories about men like Jonah. They lust after a woman and only see her for her image or sexuality. Once they “get” the woman, they become insecure and they try to make her undesirable to other men, by changing her personality or appearance etc. Because he can’t possibly see the woman as another human being, he only sees women as sexual being with the sole purpose of pleasing men.
Idk as soon as I heard Jonah was asking a SURF INSTRUCTOR to stop being photographed in bikinis or surf with other men, I was like yeah he’s wrong. Like imagine dating a jiu jitsu instructor and your girlfriend being like okay but you can’t practice jiu jitsu with women. Only men. Only train other men. Like it’s just not logical. Why date someone with a career that makes you uncomfortable then ask them to end their career to be with you. Yeah I want you but if you wanna be with me you have to quit your job 😤
Or like dating a (male) personal trainer and saying not to train any women. That directly cuts their client base down by a huge chunk. And when you mess with my bag... Goodbye 👋
If a girl is surfing in a flipping bikini...she's flaunting that shit out there for attention. Let's not lie to eachother. And then if she's getting photos taken of her ass to post online....again....red flag.
I've noticed a rise in people using "setting boundaries" as a way to get away with toxic emotionally abusive behavior. Definitely gaslighting. Bosses, family, friends, etc. Someone is pushing this sort of thing so that toxicity becomes the norm.
Nah...ypu aren't entitled to a relationship. Ever. Boundaries are Boundaries. Just because you may not like them doesn't make them "toxic". Get over it.
@@mr.fettesq.7705 It seems you're discussing a premise you don't fully understand. The best way to define boundaries is that they start and end with you. Another way to put it is "In any relationship, boundaries define where things like our personhood, our identity, our responsibility, and our control begin and end relative to the other person." Controlling someone else's behaviour, way they dress, what they post, etc. and then framing that as a boundary is not a boundary. While you may say you're not entitled to a relationship (which is true), and may argue that ending a relationship with someone because what they post is making you uncomfortable is valid, calling requests to someone else for how they behave "a boundary" is inappropriate and misuse of that term. It's a really interesting topic and something to be explored if you desire, and I agree with the idea that "boundaries are boundaries" wholeheartedly. However, when those boundaries aren't true boundaries and are actually borderline manipulative and controlling (imo), that isn't appropriate at all.
I think there's no way anybody who says its boundaries did a deep dive into the screenshots. Jonah's texts come off as him wanting people to make up for his insecurities. you can have boundaries, but you can't make it the other person's job to make you feel better. Meet them in the middle or put the effort in to become a stronger person. If you care about someone, you don't act like they're an asshole. you either care and treat someone like it, or you don't and it shows.
Men who think like Jonah already begin from a bad position in that they objectify every female they ever acknowledge. Women are not human beings to them socially.
How dare a man actually have preferences. He didn’t say she couldn’t do those things she just can’t date him and do those things. That isn’t objectifying anyone at all, it’s having a healthy self respect.
@@BD-1-And-Only If he wanted a woman like that why did he choose the surfer instagram model? Just pearly things is super available if he wants a modest girl.
@@BD-1-And-Only He did nothing wrong😭😭😭.... Forcing someone to delete her instagram photos and still making her feel guilty when she did it isn't manipulating😭😭😭.... Using your anxiety and other issues to condition someone's behavior is super normal😭😭😭.... He just had standards, he had a preference and it's not his fault he wanted to date a girl who didn't meet any and then make her feel guilty for not doing so😭😭😭....
@@BD-1-And-Only Is fine to keep his standards, but why didn't he acknowledge them from the start? Changing somebody is much harder than just looking for the traits you like and need in a relationship. Edit: btw I don't think it is problematic to tell your partner how you feel and ask for changes. As far as deleting photos on Instagram goes, it isn't abusive imo. For an IG model who is a surfer, in this case, it's just a baffling request. The decision of doing so, not doing so or splitting up is just another natural part of the relationship when deciding what both parties want and need. I would, however, question his train of thought when pursuing her. The photos were already there. 😅
@@BD-1-And-Only he’s literally the one that went after her, bro 😂 you can’t create new standards that don’t match up with the woman you’ve BEEN dating. At that point, it’s up to you to MAN THE HELL UP and leave.
I was actually on Jonah’s side at first, or at least thought this was all blown out of proportion because what little I knew came off as setting boundaries & being bluntly open with your partner which I fully support.. until certain details came out that are very important. I think it’s A-okay to want a modest partner, but when I found out she was a pro SURFER I realized he was a massive hypocrite. He also clearly started projecting onto her how he thought about her before the relationship started. He assumed other men would view her as a sexual object because that’s how HE viewed her when he first met her. It all wreaks of toxic insecurity.
The narrative that 25-year old women are old and "expired" actually comes from the manosphere and red-pilled / incel spaces. A lot of these males are firm believers that women aren't people. They only see women as sexual objects, and are therefore incapable of rationalizing the idea of a woman striving for a rich inner life, successful career, higher education, traveling and personal enrichment. Herein comes their belief that ALL women sleep around and have more than 1000 partners per year (you'll be surprised to learn how many incels actually believe that!!!), so the manosphere often propagates the idea that any woman over 25 - or hell, over 20 sometimes - is inevitably promiscuous and not good enough for a long-term relationship. Ironically, a lot of these red-pillers are in their 40s and see highly promiscuous men as successful instead of regarding them with the same contempt that they assess women with. They do not discriminate each other based on age, but they discrimnate women - and then have the gallbladder to scream that misogyny isn't real. The reality is that most people's brains are done developing by the age of 25, so this is the age where you're expected to make the most rational decisions. If you're in a good place mentally and physically, you would notice the red flags if a guy in his 40s tried to lure you in. Someone younger may not. Plus, if a woman is taking up higher education, the age of 25 is generally when most people have completed a Master's degree, and therefore have a lot more opportunities for work, travel and further self-development. Redpillers don't want educated women with career opportunities, they want a barely-adult girl with very little life experience so they can control her. No, women who are over 25 aren't old. But they are "too old" for sexual predators who want nothing more than a sex doll to control, abuse and gaslight. If a male uses that type of language for a woman, run. He's a manipulative predator and nothing more. Sincerely, a 23-year old woman.
Take it from me, a 42 year old woman: you’re a baby. You have every reason to feel confused and have difficulty navigation and understanding yourself and the world. I don’t think that people mature out of that until after 35.
Coincidentally, 25 is around the age your brain fully develops. Seems like guys like these call us “old” to hide the fact that they just want a girl that’s easily manipulatable and that they have more power over, even though most guys can’t tell the difference between a 20 and a 27 year old.
A quarter of a century seems like a long time until you factor in how much of it was spent learning to talk, to read, where humans poop, how to do math...
my opinion is that jonah was well aware of his ex girlfriend's interests and insta photos before their relationship. he shouldn't try to change who she is because they're together, find a more modest dressing woman if that's your preference
I think it was actually said that he found her from/dmed her on Instagram so if that’s the case, he absolutely saw and liked the photos she had on there. Smh
Which is exactly what he did....heaven forbid a man expect the girl he plans on taking seriously ...be a bit more modest. Either way he laid it all out there and let her choose. Now she's angry and bitter and being a psychopath. Plain and simple.
@@mr.fettesq.7705what? If you want a modest woman, go and pick one instead of going for an IG girl and then expect her to do 180 in her personality, hobbies, career and friend choices
I don’t like how after she does take down the posts for him he continues to scold and berate her??? Like she did what he asked and he’s still trying to make her feel bad
@@Jay41 we are talking before she went public. She complied with all her demands and he still was giving her a hard time. And I'm sorry but what does real abuse even mean? Is it only abuse if it's sexual of physical? pyschological abuse doesn't count?
@@adrianinha19he means her attempt at trying to play the victim and throw the word "abuse" out there makes her look ridiculous, crazy and stupid. Her definition of what happened to her doesn't sound anything like abuse to me. There can absoluetly be emotional abuse and none of us know what went on as it pertains to that stuff...so we can't really ever know. What we DO know is this broad put him on blast for no other reason then she's a woman scorned. She's jealous and bitter and sounds unbalanced. It's been a year or more and she's still dwelling on it. She could of decided not to dress in a thong while other men take pics of her ass for her so she can post them online. But appearently that's crossing the line. Either way she isn't ENTITLED to a relationship with him on her terms. He may be insecure...but so is she and she's also crazy. There is no mysoginy here. Just another crazy ass female trying to use social media to attempt to get the mob to go after her ex. This is just an angry bitter ex nothing more. She should be embarrassed.
I'm only a few minutes in, but seeing this man reminds me of how freaking awesome Jack Black is. Owning being the funny fat guy and being able to laugh at himself while still being so confident and kind and really freaking talented. Jonah Hill needs to take notes.
The difference is Jonah secretly always wanted to be the Hollywood hottie... he had the fame and money but wasn't getting 1st pick of the ladies that say... Brad Pitt, James Franco can get without trying. He isn't the guy that women first try to get close to in Hollywood for romantic relationships hence his insecurity even after the weight loss.
Jack Black always had the charisma to be a lead. I wish there were more movies where he got to be. He was always the best part of whatever movie he was in.
I mean I can kinda Jonahs position. Always being a joke will hurt someone. However I don't appreciate him taking that out on others. He should take it out on himself. Nothing is keeping him fat except himself.
Those men talking about teenage and younger women like that 🤢🤧 sickening behaviour Another amazing video as always whilst looking gorgeous as ever? You're spoiling us ❤
funny how danny devito's looks played into his roles but didn't destroy his ego. Jonah really thought he could handle using his bad looks to make it in comedy but he was wrong lol.
I thought he lost out after becoming healthier because he was no longer the overweight funny guy. He’s an ex Theater Kid. Some of those guys carry hangups with them long past high school. Fat or thin, he’s a solid actor IMO.
This is the classic example of a person who has had too much therapy and has basically taken on the language in order to manipulate and drive the other person crazy while appearing open and just “stating boundaries” the entire time. His therapist should be mortified.
He has had the therapy but didn’t do the work to connect his triggered feelings to his insecurities. He can identify what he dislikes about others, but still thinks it means that the other person needs to change. We are supposed to learn how our old wounds control our perception of our present circumstances, and find the internal power to heal. If we stay stuck believing that external circumstances are causing our insecurities, we will see other people as “the problem” and chase power through controlling others… and yet never truly feel good for long. Because we can never truly create the positive sense of self without taking accountability for ourselves.
Yea....plain and simple....a man or woman can state whatever boundaries they want. And the other person can choose to go with or not go with. He didn't do anything wrong here at all. However this broad....is bitter and splashed it all over the internet to try and be a victim and shame the guy and get him hate.
@@mr.fettesq.7705 Boundaries are all about taking responsibility for ourselves. He didn’t state boundaries, he created rules to control HER behavior that triggered HIS insecurities. And when one set of rules didn’t work, he kept digging at HER to figure out what had to change to make HIM feel better. She seems to have taken accountability for the missed opportunities as a result of trying to follow his “rules”. He doesn’t seem to have taken ownership of his insecurities though, as evidenced by his unclear boundaries in their “friendship”, while he was in another relationship. Shady behavior feels powerful in the moment but bankrupts you over time. Accountability feels uncomfortable in the moment but blesses you over time. I wish both of them well.
@@laha5822 I never said the dude wasn't insecure. But at the end of the day...he listed what he expects long term. And she can accept it or not. Eitherway she had a choice. He didn't force her to do anything. Eitherway, the very last thing this girl did was accept accountability in any way. If she had, she wouldn't be posting her private conversations all over Twitter and trying to play like she's some kind of poor little victim. It didn't pan out quite the way she wanted it to though and is prob trying to back track a bit. This girl and accountability can't even be mentioned in the same sentence. She thought the world would have her back but it didn't. In my opinion they are both dumb. He perhaps asks for too much....and she craves attention and validation. Eitherway....he's a wealthy celebrity and has afforded himself the ability to have crazy expectations if he so wishes as long as he ain't forcing anything on anyone and physicaly harming anyone. If she wanted to marry him....then she would make the sacrifices necessary in order to be with a higher profile man. She didn't so he moved on and so did she.....except she didnt...and attempted to put him on blast under the guise of being an "abuse victim". This shit happened like a year ago or so and he's having a baby with another woman. I'm sorry...but she just comes off bitter and like she wants to ruin whatever he's got going on with someone else. Super petty and pathetic. Girl needs to move on already
to me the issue is It’s totally okay to not want to date a sexy surfer who posts pics on her instagram. it is not okay to date a sexy surfer who posts pics on her instagram and tell her that she needs to stop what she’s doing because you don’t want to date a sexy surfer who posts pics on her instagram.
So Jonah was a very unhappy 14 year old because he was obese but he blames his mother for his lingering issues because she tried to help him lose weight and that made him feel bad about himself. He's the eternal victim.
The fact that Jonah gets so easily triggered and always uses his anxiety as an excuse, tells me that his therapist isn’t doing a good job, so it’s funny to me that they decided to do a documentary on his “unique” therapy skills lol
Honestly it's sad but a therapist can only do as good of a job as their client will let them. So if someone has manipulative tendencies or extreme insecurities about the image they present, they're like not to divulge full transparent truths and emotions. While therapist are trained to spot some of these things they're also not miracle workers and I have the feeling this might be an issue for Jonnah
@@maiganmattson5836While this is true, I also don't think a therapist should tell their client they loved them. Or love them without telling. You're too invested and it won't work out at this point. And telling everyone what you're doing is absolutely unique and you nearly have God given powers to heal everything psychological (as it sounded to me), the therapist here probably needs therapy himself and isn't doing Jonah or himself any good
A therapist doesn't do the work for their patient. Much like a personal trainer can't lift the weights for a client a therapist cannot do the work on a person's behavior. Also, unlike many conditions of a physical nature (not all of course, chronic illness exists) the underlying conditions that might lead to behavior do not go away but only become better managed or seen for what they are and expressed in more helpful ways. A therapist serves a platform for reflection, offers insight based on education and experience, and cheerleads in a way but in the end...it comes down to the person. Quick edit to say that some therapists, especially in the woo shit, are likely more harmful than helpful.
I do cosplay and pro wrestling, and I'm sorry, if my husband suddenly told me I need to quit posting cosplay pictures online and couldn't wrestle at the same events as men, when these were things that attracted him to me in the first place, I would laugh in his face and think it's a joke. As Michelle said, if he were to admit he was insecure, it's something I'd be willing to talk through and try to make compromises, but to just demand an ultimatum that I quit my job and hobbies and suddenly call it "boundaries" when the same boundaries don't apply to him, I just don't understand how people can think that's healthy.
Gaslighting, abuse, trauma-dumping, narcissism, manipulation, predator, etc. DEFINITELY gets thrown around more than it should. I also don't like how in this generation every relationship with an age-gap is automatically considered predatory. With that being said, Jonah is, indeed, controlling and abusive. He hides behind "I'm just setting boundaries :)" and his insecurities to control what she did. What does HER wearing a bikini on a hot ass beach have to do with YOUR bodily autonomy??! 😭 These types of ppl don't need to be in a relationship, like at all. Also further proof that therapy can't help everyone. He literally took medical/psychological terms and abuse them to lord over her. If you're gonna have a problem wit your 25 y.o. gf wanting to live her still young life doing what she loves before and after she dated you, then maybe you shoulda gotten wit a NON SURFER that's your own age 💁 I can only pray for his new gf.
i dont believe there is evidence to support that every relationship with an age gap is automatically considered predatory. what I have seen though is some people assume it does happen often. 'every' though,...thats a stretch
@@lowlowseesee The use of "every" was hyperbolic. It was meant to fit in with how that "predator" gets thrown around too much. Ofc I didn't mean "every" as in literally 💀
I am divorcing someone 15 years older than me after 20 years. I thought I was the exception to the rule. Turns out older men who go after much younger women strike out with women in their own age range because they are emotionally immature man-babies. 100% of the time. They tell younger women that they are more mature than their age, but the truth is that they are immature. The woman will outgrow them.
I mean to be fair its a little extreme to say he should be left alone forever, because being alone is what caused these issues. His issue is he isn't taking therapy seriously. Anyone can go to therapy but if you don't go with the mindset to change you won't. He needs to fall in love with a girl he'd never want to lose.
@@BronzedBeast Uhmm I'm sitting here wondering where did you get the "He should be alone forever." Part from. I was saying that if you're going to be THIS insecure, paranoid, and controlling over your partner then you don't need to be in a relationship UNTIL you resolve these personal issues. I said the exact same thing to my abusive father years ago and I'm still saying this cuz he never changed and never will. Some ppl really can't be helped - that's just the sad reality of it.
Hold up Jonah is almost 40?? Acting like this? If you don't have trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Thank you for doing a whole deep dive on this.
I got so excited over this video I slurred a full sentence together and told my husband that there was a new “McVideo” up. He laughed and I am not allowed to call your videos anything else now.
Why is it always the funny guys who act like the sweet, funny, teddy bear types but underneath they are insecure, abusive, controlling and just in need of therapy....
I never understood why people who find their future S.O. on social media or in real life half dressed or naked then demand them to remove those pictures or stop taking those pictures once they're dating. You knew that's how they dressed. What's the issue now?!
I'm very tomboy and don't wear "girly" clothes very often or makeup, don't do my nails ect, this guy asked me out and after a few weeks started saying I should "take more pride in my appearance, wear makeup more often, style my hair instead of just pulling it up", so I did and almost instantly our intimate engagements dropped to almost zero, he staryed going for drinks with friends, eventually he was spending the night at "friends" houses. Of course he was cheating and when I confronted him he said he just wasn't as attracted to me any more. 🙄 Wonder how that happened genius?🤔
Hill always creeped me out, he is so insecure. He doesn't want friends or partners, he wants a permanent psychologist who also worships the ground he walks on.
Controlling men like Jonah really make me glad I am single and living my best life. I had someone similar but he had a problem that I had gay friends because they might turn straight for me. It’s just another way of saying „I objectify you and reduce you to only sex so any other man wants to fuck you as well and you can’t be desirable to any other guy out there.“ it’s disgusting. I had to break up because I had my best gay friend since school times, met his boyfriend and we traveled and never once was he inappropriate to me.
turn straight lolol. men are so dumb. i remember working at a strip club as a bouncer. and some of the bfs of the dancers actually though the dancers were just partying there and into the men that came in. they are so lost lol. its a job and the customers were lame lol
Also let me isolate you from any friends or outside support you have and take away your life piece by piece so I can manipulate you more easily and no one can check my behavior 🙄
Omg lol had the same comment made to me by an ex. Honestly seems insane now but at the time, the demands like that people make in relationships can seem reasonable because "if you love them" you'll adjust to them. But definitely it's that you're just an object or an accessory to their lives and not a real person. I was once told people only pay me attention (in any context) because I have big boobs, this from a man who wore the tightest trousers on stage because he thought it would be funny to have his dick visible. Insecure people are awful partners
I dated a Jonah thinking he was a nice person…looks didn’t matter. I was wrong, he started criticizing my looks, comparing me to other better looking women, and an ahole . Mind you he was 5’3 male and not the best looking …but I was young and dumb. Looks don’t matter …the ugly are ugly sometimes 😂🤷🏽♀️ ugly outside don’t mean pretty inside 😂
Same here. He was over weight and had a huge scar across his face. I should’ve known better, as I met him while working at Hooter. (Not my best life decision, but I was 19). I ended up leaving him at the altar. He complained my outfit at the rehearsal dinner was too revealing….. um my parents picked it out! And he screamed at my sister for putting a photo of me in a bikini on the slideshow. Thank God I left him. I would be dead in a ditch or a miserable person at best by now.
reminds me of my first boyfriend at 19 who cheated on me and excused it saying "I thought you were cheating too" (completely untrue), exposing that he had been projecting the whooooole time. Sad.
Seems like he wants a woman who just wants to be known as his wife, and only his boundaries are the only one's that are important. Im glad i saw this video and see much more and agree with you on EVERYTHING!
Controlling behavior is not setting boundaries 🙄 using mental health for manipulation is not okay. Just because your partner has anxiety or depression doesn't mean that you have alter yourself to soothe or prevent all their triggers/insecurities. There are so many things wrong with his behavior. It's gross
You're right although sleeping over at a dudes house once a week is an exception. I think you and I can both agree that's a good boundary. He doesn't need to sleep over at a girls house and vice versa.
As a survivor of narcissistic abuse, I really wish people would learn what those "buzzwords" mean. They are very powerful reference points for survivors to understand what theyve been through, and the tactics that were used against them by the narcissist. When you just fling those words around interchangeably with the less extreme language that would be more accurate for those every day assholes, it takes validation away from the people who NEED that language to heal. Thank you so much for pointing that out, Michelle. I know you survived your fathers narcissistic bs so it really rings so much more true coming from someone who gets it because they have lived it.
The fact that he told her SHE should end it if she can’t meet his demands (boundaries🤣) says enough. If someone can’t respect your boundaries then YOU end it. What he was doing was emotionally manipulating the situation (abuse).
I actually read a comment recently comparing her job to having a ' secret onlyfans account'...I'm not even kidding... apparently knowingly dating someone who surfs for a living is comparable to that, to some people, and is ' crossing boundaries'.
I think if you get with a person who's very into social media and showing their body, you knew what you were getting into and you can't just demand they change everything for youm I think it's ok to make reasonable requests and compromises, but you can't expect them to change the reasons you were attracted to them in the first place. And I think it's completely unrealistic to expect a person to not interact with the opposite sex. If you do that terribly controling behaviour and if you distrust them that much, break up. Either to find a person who won't cheat and you can trust to talk to half of the population or to work on yourself and whatever is making you controling. This whole thing about meeting a person who is confident, fun and outgoing and falling in love with that and then chipping that away and making them a meak shadow of themselves just so no one else can see the things you fell in love with us extremely sad. Very much picking a flower so no one else can look at it. If you don't trust them, leave. If you do then you shouldn't have an issue. If you dislike those kinds of people, find a traditional person who is more modest by choice and you won't have to change them.
I love your analogy about the flower. It reminds me of that saying, "when you like a flower, you pluck it. When you love a flower, you water it daily."
You did so much more research than the political influencers I've seen. I'm pretty conservative and a christian myself, and i always appreciate your sane and balanced takes on all the crazy drama. 😅
Of course political influencers have an agenda they're going to side with someone like this if they're conservative and people like amber heard if they're leftists
Jonah gives me this vibe of a neurotic man with recurring and intrusive thoughts about himself, I think he spends worrying amounts of time thinking about himself and his image, as well as overanalyzing each and every one of his interactions.
Definitely. And super insecure about his looks. Filming jumpstreet next to that very handsome guy - who's name I cannot come up with at the moment - must have been torture for him. 😄
He's like George Costanza where he just finishes having sex and then he's in bed asking the girl he just had sex with if she thinks Jerry's girlfriend liked him
If I had a partner that talked so condescendingly to me ("Good start, but it's not my place to teach you") after I complied with their requests, the relationship would end on the spot. Like, what the hell?
The audacity for an average looking guy give a hot intelligent girl and ultimatum as if she didn’t already lower her standard when she chose to date him.
So because she "hot" even though she kinda mid gives her the okay to do what ever? I agree he shouldn't of been an ass but being pissed at her basically second relationship is completely fair. Be honest her behavior with that Frankie dude is sus and if your man even likes another girl's post you'll be shoving your fist down his throat and this girl is having full on sleep overs. That's a dick appointment
Once upon a time I was in a relationship that looked like this. He tried to make me stop hanging with people if he wasn't there, had issues with how I dressed in public, was checking my phone/text history. He was suddenly talking about how he would look and what people will say if I did this or that. He wanted me to be a totally different person that I was when he met me. I have no idea why I stayed with him for 2 years
I think the issue with Jonah hill is not that he set boundaries, it's that he pursued a woman whose lifestyle doesn't suit his boundaries. Men do this all the time, talking about wanting a decent woman who dresses modestly and is basically a wholesome girl next door, but they chase IG thots and date women who wear layers of make up and use lots of filters and then they trash ("humble") women who aren't wearing make up and showing off lots of skin cuz they're not "as hot" as the filtered, make up wearing, skin revealing IG thot they secretly want. and then these men will complain about boundaries when that's the woman they chased to begin with, and also complain that these women are arrogant or narcissistic. Stop going after the women that don't suit your needs.
I respect anyone who wants to dress modestly and wants their partner to do the same but… that’s clearly not what’s going on, this dude just wants full control over this woman and her body because he’s insecure. I’ve been working so hard on my body the past year and if some dude came along and was like ‘ummm those shorts have a 3” inseam and I don’t like other men looking at you’ I would simply lose my mind. And it’s not even a part of my job, so kudos to her for not flipping out on him
For about the first two or threee texts I was like "Okay, kind of a weird ask but everyone has their preferences" and then the more I learned the more that fell down a cliff
My most recent ex was controlling as well. Now that we’ve broken up and I’m dating again, I’ve been able to notice the weird controlling critical comments they make early on so they get kicked to the curb immediately. Getting with someone then trying to change everything about who they were when y’all met is peak weird. A relationship with someone who loves you shouldn’t feel like isolation and having your wings clipped.
The first thing a man tries to control he gets kicked out, I'm allergic to people trying to control, I just want to live my life and be myself and if it's too much for your ego leave, I just can't stand people who notice others weaknesses and try to control them by using it against them (good example shaming someone for their looks).
Agreed. I think there is a different between controlling behavior and actual standards and boundaries though. You shouldn't be trying to change a person, that said....I'm no about to be OK with my girl posting a bunch of half naked photos online for attention for a bunch of men to look at. That's not "changing" someone. That's a straight up standard.
@@mr.fettesq.7705but would you date someone who posts those pictures constantly to start Also I sort of missed it but is the photography part of her job or just her hobby? Is she an influencer or something? Anyways I just think you should know what you are getting into to start with and not expect it to change that much after being in a relationship, when it comes to one’s public image and behavior especially. If someone posts skimpy pictures that could well be an important part of their personality or tastes or job. Different shakes for different jakes or whatever
Can you give examples? I believe you, I'm just interested in what guys say. From a guy's perspective when women say "I'm bad at texting" or "I'm too picky" or "men are intimidated by me" those are glaring red flags that this is going to be the most emotionally draining person you ever met.
@@mr.fettesq.7705 I’m a firm believer in not trying to change the way someone carries themselves relationship or single. Not dating someone who posts like that is totally okay, but you just simply shouldn’t date someone who wants to post things like that in the first place in my opinion. I don’t date men who go to strip clubs single or otherwise for example.
Good rule of thumb is that if your partner suddenly asks you to stop doing something (like quit your hobby) they will ask something else in the future and if you agree the first time, the second time it is harder not to, because you have already invested a lot into the relationship and over time youll have less and less freedom and you start to believe that your partner is the only one who cares about you and only thing you have.
He is grossly misusing the word "boundary". A boundary is meant/set in order to *protect YOURSELF* not control others. You put a fence around *your OWN house,* you have *no right* to control your neighbor's fence, and if they even want to put one up at all. One of my boundaries is that I don't go to a man's house for a 1st/2nd/3rd date etc. That is to *protect me* from getting graped and k!lled. And the second a man tests that boundary, I know all I need to know about him, and ditch them. Jonah is not setting boundaries, he is controlling this woman's actions.
Maybe it's overuse because there's a lot more of them now, or because we finally do understand what that is and can see there's always been a lot of people like that.
@@adrianinha19 I really do think the internet has exposed how many people are legitimately narcissistic mostly because how exposed how we are to the rest of the world
@@adrianinha19Yep a lot of people fit the bill. Why? Humans put people like this in power. Clearly it's a heavily reproduced set of traits and now we all suffer the consequences
Definitely late to the party, but that's like saying that there are more cases of autism now. That's not true, the condition is just more well-known now, and neuroscience has evolved enough to make the appropriate diagnosis. Narcs have always existed, they were just called something else like "assholes," "psychos," "insane," "crazies," "deranged," "weirdos," etc. I'm pretty sure that that's what happening. We just have a more accurate label now. BUT, I am sure that the word gets weaponized pretty often by people who try to make themselves the victim without taking accountability for their part of the blame.
What Jonah said after their breakup is total hypocrisy. He said he didn’t want her talking to men ir not have male friends, but it’s oke for him to do so? He may think “I know I’m trustworthy” but would he buy that if his wife was hanging with an ex or even just a male friend? Tf
We must protect all the teen girls against men like that guy omg. He just admitted he likes women with no opinion and he could impress aka manipulate and control (groom)
I was just talking to a grown man in his 30s that was super interested and loving me and all my photos . Then after talking more and getting more serious he started shooting shady shots saying i was fat and i shouldn’t feel comfortable wearing my leggings and crop top or sports bra to the gym or around afterwards running errands . Continuously would tear me down anyyyy chance he got . Eventually i had to let him go as much as there were “green flags” . Thinking back i think it’s because he saw how confident i was at the time and he was insecure about himself and his body so he would try to bring me down with him. It’s honestly sad . Any man or woman that do things like this need to work on themselves before entering any relationship in my opinion. Anyways that being said if anyone out there is dealing with a similar situation please please do your best to continue being yourself no matter what anyone else tells you . Also if you are i suggest rethinking the relationship
My husband also started out like this, just making weird demands like telling me to change my clothes. It got to the point he would shove or punch me if I didn't change my clothes. Or try to force me to get out of the car or refuse to take me anywhere (I had no license) So I'd be stuck at home trapped. Unless I wore what he demanded. It may not be bad now because she broke up with him, But it could have devolved into something very violent. Avoid controlling people. People who need control like that are not mentally okay and will absolutely end up hurting you.
yeah you definitely should pick up Why DOes He Do that by lundy bancroft. hide it or even read it free on line when your husband isnt around. if you tell people to avoid controlling people you should do yourself that same solid. good luck
Just imagine for a moment what the reaction would have been if she would have started making "boundaries" that acting in movies that included other women was disrespectful, that when he went to any Hollywood events he had to say hi and end the conversation with any women, and he could only go to coffee or something "respectful" with friends he clears with her first. Imagine if she expressed that she was insecure that being an actor put him in a spotlight that attracted a lot of women, so he needed to make a decision if that was more important than the security of their relationship.
I seriously hate men that go after young people and don't acknowledge they are young, not as experienced, still learning, could change, and that they don't have the right to be in charge like a parent just because they're older, if you want a young partner you're gonna have to deal with what comes with having a fricken younger partner, choose someone your own age if that's too big of a problem, but they're probably too immature and controlling to get anyone their own age so maybe just live alone and get some plants to take care of you can't fuck with a plants feelings at least
Honestly he sounds exactly like my ex boyfriend who was incredibly controlling. I really empathize with her and being made to feel like you’re not good enough for someone unless you meet all of their unreasonable requests to help their insecurities instead of them working on their insecurities. Also, as soon as you ask him to change something he comes back saying he’s perfect and doesn’t need to change.
To me it was more of a break up text of why we aren't compatible, and he was going above and beyond to phrase it in such a way where he isn't the bad guy, kind of trying to convince her to be the one to break up, or make it a mutual decision. She could walk away from it knowing her platform exploded when she showed up on red carpet with him, so it's not like he took her out of the spotlight. **this isn't to say that he's not manipulative, he is in fact a male feminist lol
As someone who did a lot of therapy in their life and also knows a lot of people who did a lot of therapy. I feel like there is often that point of over correcting, where you try to "finally take care of yourself and don't let people disrespect you or your boundaries" anymore. But actually you're just really sensitive and borderline toxic while you're "protecting and respecting yourself". I had this phase for sure but I think I'm over it now. I think it's important to know that in the process of therapy you might be a bit self absorbed for a while and that's okay (there is a reason for that after all) but not if you are hurting others in the process and overstep their boundaries. Don't be so focused on being the victim that you can't see your wrong doing anymore. (Was the last sentence still English? Idk. but I guess you get the point) :)
This guy played the perfect "nice guy " role in megamind and after all these messages , I only see his nice guy character. Definitely a foreshadowing role 😂 Its like if he saw a cat , fed and adopted the cat and then forces it to eat only dog food , play like a dog and gets mad when the cat still doesnt bark 😂
I wouldn't call him an abuser but it's clear that he is highly insecure and has a toxic (overused word I know) outlook on relationships. Your assessment of this is spot on. His expectations won't be unreasonable for some people, arguably many people, but they were unreasonable for her and in my opinion he should have known that going into the relationship. If you want to date a hot 24-year-old you have to be okay with her acting like a hot 24-year-old. He should date someone closer to his age with a similar conservative outlook when it comes to what is appropriate to do in a relationship. There are plenty of women in this world who are perfectly okay with dressing modestly and not hanging out with other men.
He needs to deal with his insecurities. Him still being insecure about having once been an overweight teenager is not her or anyone else’s fault. He’s a grown man now.
Eughhh girl, good riddance. One of my exes was so much like this. No male friends allowed. I wasn't allowed to have certain female friends either, unless they were clearly very against the few times I hooked up with someone or the fact that I used to drink a lot in college (the only friend that met his criteria was one of my Christian friends, just based on her religion. She actually didn't give a shit what I chose to do but he just figured they had the same "moral code"). He kept me overweight to keep me insecure. Constantly made me apologise for things I'd done years before I even met him but had no way to "fix". It was isolating and miserable and I am sad that Sarah and others have also gone through the same. As Michelle says, jus throw out the whole man as soon as the warning signs start coming.
Bruh you out yourself as a cheater and say good riddance to him? Nah good riddance to you. Also this whole mindset:"he kept me fat is wild." You chose to be fat. No one pointed a gun at your head and said eat. Unless your wording was off and I'm in the wrong you are indeed the problem. You're basically saying he doesn't want you hooking up and be around women that encourage it. You're allowed to feel the same. He shouldn't be having female friends that you're worried he'll fuck nor should he have male friends that encourage cheating.
Also when did talking no become the norm. These ain't one sided convos. Relationships are about compromises. You don't need to immediately end stuff. Go to couples therapy. Work stuff out. Then break it off if it ain't working out
@@BronzedBeast Who hurt you? This person very clearly did not say in any way that they were a cheater. this is just a story you mad up inside your own head, and then decided to get mad about. So who made you so angry as to make up an imaginary slight that you could lash out at an internet stranger for like this?
The part where you went into the kitchen and yelled at Garret and his reaction was hilarious! My husband and I both loved it. Will probably watch this video again, even if only that part. You could turn it into a short, it's so good! You guys make such a lovely couple. May you always have be so happy and loved 💜🌹
The content creator Psychology in Seattle that Michelle used clips from is amazing btw. Dr. Kirk Honda is a marriage and family therapist and professor who trains psychologists. Most of his content since the pandemic has been reacting to reality TV (and celebrity drama etc.) and breaking down why the people involved reacted and communicated the way they did, then explaining how they could have communicated what they're trying to communicate in a way that is healthy. It is amazing content to watch if you want to improve your communication skills in your relationships and your general understanding of people.
@@Feverm00n Some of his takes have definitely been off the mark before but nobodies gonna be "right" all the time. We're all different with different experiences so will notice and focus on different things. In general I'd say he's very insightful and I do have to agree with OP that he gives good communication advice. I also think he's very fair and compassionate towards people which I think a lot of people can learn from, especially this day and age on the internet 😅
He's certainly not amazing. Also he is insanely racist towards white people. Especially white Americans. I'm not even american but his racists remarks, all the time complaining about 'racists white americans' who in reality did something that is not racist at all. Or he comes up with things and so called facts that are just completely untrue. Its so annoying and the reason I stopped watching him. And he acts like being Japanese is so fantastic but Japan is one of the most racist and misogynistic countries on the planet. ( facts. Google it )
I mean, he is trying to police how people use words like "abuse" "trauma" "nacissistic" like...is not your job to turn people into walking medical dictionaries, were we can only use the correct definition of things or else we are wrong, it's like invalidating someone's experience when you tell them "well, akshually, what you mean is not abuse but a minor disagreement" like, bitch, if I felt abuse it's for a reason, do not correct me until you get my whole story and then we can analyze if my perception was off or not, but to tell people that hey are describing their own experiences wrong already makes me not want to trust him.
There's a reason why people like Jonah don't open with their expectations for a relationship. They'd never get with the people they want because the beautiful, confident, smart and interesting ones all have standards and boundaries that would rule them out after that convo because they know they can get with someone who embodies all those qualities in kind with expectations that line up with the life they want to live anyways so they don't have to minimise themselves or change their personality or give anything up to be in a happy relationship. People like him already know their expectations are out of whack and repulsive and very much not right. So they wait until they can get you to invest enough in a relationship to the point you'll wonder "is it worth losing them to keep enjoying x" it's definitely bootyvoid behaviour and deffo stems from insecurities they'd rather accommodate because it feels easier than try to work through. Funnily or tragically in the long term they actually make their lives a lot harder because they deprive themselves of happy relationships based on trust, respect, care and FUN in favor of making their partners miserable and winding up in loveless marriages (because how can you be affectionate or share anything special with someone devoted to removing joy from your life) or with an endless string of people continuously leaving them because the people they date can see the demands of the insecurities becoming too much before it becomes difficult to leave so they just do. And they won't feel bad about leaving because if someone like that can tollerate making you miserable every day, why should you feel bad about making them miserable by leaving? Why tollerate it "to treasure the relationship" when you can find someone who strives to make you happy and respects you and does what you enjoy with you (or at least supports the fact you keep doing it) and you can big them up and give them the most precious parts of yourself instead because you know they'll also thrive there and you both can just keep getting better and better, which is a very standard mutual benefit to expect in a relationship. I feel like that's something the jonahs and the "alpha" males don't get. I always say, you won't agree on everything, but you definitely should on the important stuff so always ask your potential partner open ended questions to get an honest opinion (what do you think about x? How many kids do you want?) ones that don't sound like you have any bias either way and if those important things don't line up move on because those will end your relationship in the long run and make one or both of you unhappy. Best advice I ever got
🤢 This hit too close to home for me. My ex was such a hypocrite and always thought he was a "good" guy. I am so mad at myself that I was with him for so long. Also, I have no idea how people can't see that he was being manipulative.
Those messages though… he’s just there like a lawyer pleading his case like he knows it’ll be exposed. Also he sounds like he’s trying to convince himself he’s a good person. Great video Michelle!
I just want to say I appreciate you so much for 1) covering this and sharing your thoughts and 2) making a long video. I can't wait for more of your content like this in the future.
Really reminded me of my ex boyfriend. He was always trying to put me down and make me small. Also I get a feeling he’s trying to make her not have a job? Like he’s actively trying to sabotage her career. What does he want to do? Financially control her too? Feels like it. Stuff would have gotten way worse. The way he talks to her in those texts? Yeah. It would have gotten worse.
The brain is fully developed around mid to late 20's. That is why older men saying they like teens makes it even more disgusting. That is predatory behaviour. Jonah knew who she was and what she did before they got together. She shouldn't have caved to his requests to take the images off.They weren't explicit, they were normal for her profession. Jonah has 0 chill for a surfer. Seriously bro relax.
I can’t believe all this stuff that’s insanely intimate and important to speak about is all written through text. If you can’t speak these issues out in person that is the biggest clue you’re not right for one another 🙄 ://///
"You gotta throw the whole man away." When she said that and should the footage of a guy getting thrown in the trash can alongside the context, I just pictured her lifting him up and yeeting him into the dumpster.
I dealt with almost this exact same kind of bs. It's a downward spiral and acquiescing to demands will only make you depressed and leave you with serious self doubt. My ex excused his controlling by saying his friends all agreed, but I said he needs to make friends with better people bc none of this shit is healthy.
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I'm really tired of these texts not being talked about. Your 'victim" is a lying psychopath that can't get over he's moved on.
@@cherrybell297just saw this
As a 32yo man, calling a 25yo woman "old" is fucking insane.
“Noo don’t turn 25 yet your so sexy haha”
@@Njx063LMFAO.
@@Njx063 "no please don't turn 18🤩😘"
They talk about girls around 12-14, its no joke an actual reality😭@@laurawilliams6805
The fact that he turned out to be EXACTLY like his Megamind character makes the movie so much more realistic! Truly a masterpiece!
He's also Snotlout, the bully in How To Train Your Dragon!
@@Em_Elizabethsnout isn’t a bully
RIIIGHT!! I was thinking the same thing!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Kashie2The actual character description labels him as a bully.
@@Kashie2 He was a bully in the first movie (as were a lot of the characters). But he had amazing character development. Can't say the same for Jonah though. Lol
I had to pause for a minute at the "I love teenagers" guy. His behavior had me feeling a little ill. 🤢
Same 🤮
Yes!
Same! Every thing he said just seemed to make it worse and I just didn't want to watch anymore of it.
My stomach TURNED when he said "now now now" mblehhhh
Same, made me say, “EW!” Out loud.
My ex-boyfriend would tell me how much he loved how i looked in short shorts, but when he found out i was wearing them to the gym, he flipped. He couldn't stand the idea of other men checking me out. The thing is, they weren't. They were respectful and kept their eyes to themselves. He was the only creep, routinely checking out other girls' asses directly in front of me.
I threw the whole man out. 🙂
As you should cause that man is insane 💀💀💀💀
That jealousy sh*t is disgusting. Who cares who’s looking? Like, seriously?? How small can a person be to flip out over that? In the case of Jonah Hill, I think it really figures he called himself a “feminist” and called out toxic masculinity, just to turn around and be that very thing. Go figure… that’s how it usually goes.
Damn. If the boy projected his issues any harder, he’d blow his bulb…
It's emotional blackmail. He knew these things about her in the beginning, waited until she was emotionally invested in the relationship and would fear losing it, then made demands for her to change or he would leave her.
Financially invested, too, apparently
The fact that this video is over an hour long, you know we're here for a good time. All aboard the Toxic Gossip Train everyone! 😂
Lol
Seriously I was surprised when I noticed how long it is. Love Michelle so I'll watch it even if I don't have time 😂.
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I thought the same. thing! An hour, ok yes please! 😂🎉 This 'bout to be juicy.
I really agree with Michelle saying that very heavy words like "abuse" and "narcissism" get thrown around like candy at a piñata party
Either that, or enough abusive narcissists procreated and as a result, much more people are genuinely narcissistic abusers now. My mom, for example. No pinata party here.
And gaslighting! God I see so many people misuse gaslighting. It’s so annoying.
And trauma bonding is another one but this seems to mainly get misused on tiktok
They seem to be the new trendy words. Like any type of asshole behavior is narcissistic or abusive. When it could just be they are an asshole 🤣🤣🤣 it doesn't need to have a fancy word. It can just be they are a dickhead. 🤣
@@MG-pj2oothere are real narcissist. Its not throwing the word around if your mom is an actual narcissist to call her one. However as example everyone ive met with undiagnosed bpd got called a narcissist when they were just acting out and trying to feel better to cope with overwhelming emotions that they couldn't place. Also I've seen many chads call women narcissists for wearing makeup. There's more examples obviously but I feel like my comment is long enough 😂 It does gets thrown around like candy by many people.
@@nohandleplsThat's the same thing that narcissists do, they lack emotional coping strategies so they result to subconscious manipulation to get their needs met.
The fact she kept agreeing to his demands and he still didn't drop it shows nothing would wver be good enough for him. Give an inch they take a mile.
Yup, it was always about controlling her, and he'd never be satisfied. >.>
Yes abusive men do that
@@missourimongoose8858 lol yes, telling someone what to do is controling. If he didn't want to date an influencer who posts pics, he shouldn't have asked her out.
Did you even watch the vid?
@@TheEggIsHere he told her what he wants in a partner and she agreed and now that it's over she wants people to feel sorry for her, just like 99% of woman these days she wants to take exactly zero responsibility for her own actions lol
I am embarrassed by the fact he went to therapy and instead of using it to get better he used it to manipulate, control and lie. He is a cheating hypocrite who projected his own dishonest behavior on his girlfriend. Cheating on your pregnant girlfriend? Dude no, just no you are scum. Sexting with your ex is definitely cheating and he knows it because his "boundaries" didn't even allow his ex to text with acquaintances for business purposes.
Jonah talking about having “Crippling Anxiety” like people all over the world don’t have anxiety and mental health issues and still treat their partners well.
I respected Jonah Hill standing up for himself in interviews when people were still trying to put him in that box of the dorky comedic relief or "the fat guy". I wanted to believe he was a male feminist, but it stunk of "male feminist until it's inconvenient for me." I'm all for setting boundaries, but there's a difference between that and being insecure, controlling, and having unrealistic expectations. Honestly feels like, intentional or not, he was weaponizing his personal growth to manipulate Sarah. Reminds me of somebody I'm thankful is no longer in my life.
This is so on point.
As someone who covers up due to religious reasons, I thought he was being unreasonable. If you start dating someone whose job is to surf and you started off the relationship by making heart eyes at a surfing pic, then you can't then turn around and expect them to stop when that's their job. Insecurities can creep in and it's human to feel that way, but you can't use your insecurities to stop someone from doing their job or promote themselves.
It would be like meeting someone who wanted to be with a Muslim woman, only to then ask me to take my hijab off when they "got" me. It's the same thing. You went to someone accepting who they are, only to tell them to change into something else.
I love how it showed him with his new girlfriend and she was wearing a bikini. like. wot. 😅
Agree 100% my preference is to be more covered, if someone started dating me THEN wanted me to change the way I dress that relationship would be over
Exactly this!
Yeah, I was kind of on his side in the beginning because the way he was talking about it seemed polite and like maybe there was something that happened to cause the change, but like the more I watched this video the more I kind of feel like they both are wrong. He literally asked a surfer out bc she was a surfer and then asked her to stop, and i thought she maybe like flirted with someone and that caused a change but yeah...I dont see them really reference something like that...so yeah thats all on him then. He shouldn't have been so wishy washy as well because that does feel a bit manipulative, and she needs to stand up for herself. If you're in a relationship you are two people bringing yourselves together and if the other person is trying to change your core values and structure you need to have the hard sit down discussion and accept that the relationship might just not work out.
Basically he seems very insecure and shod look into therapy before thinking about another relationship and she needs a bit more backbone and pride in what she brings and who she is for her next one.
Edit: wow...made it further in and he CHEATED? Hell no. He is like far more in the wrong. I am fully switched. Hypocrisy and cheating is so not okay and I cant believe any video could cut that out (I hadn't seen that bit before)
I agree. Asking a woman to cover up for fear of that "male gaze" coming from other men is a sign of massive insecurity. I've started noticing a trend now of large groups of men only wanting to date virgin women (even if they're 30 years old) and showing absolutely zero middle ground or sense of proportionality and it's all because they can't handle other men.
Some of the nicest men and women I ever met where actually porn producers, porn stars and swingers ironically.
Jonah's logic is like him picking an apple and losing his shit over the apple tasting like an apple and looking like an apple. he needs more help than he can ever get.
That's what drives me insane. I'm extremely averse to alcohol because of trauma. Anytime I spoke to potential long term partners I would make clear that I am averse to alcohol and not only don't drink it myself but never want to be around people who do. I actually said to my boyfriend when I started to want more (before we got together) I said to him look I'm averse to alcohol, your a grown man and can drink all you want but if you want to be in my life I can't have you drinking around me, if drinking is a regular thing for you I can't continue and if its not then I'd appreciate a warning if you are drinking. He's not a big drinker anyway but he appreciated that I was upfront about that and other things like that
I'm sorry but when things start getting really serious in a relationship...certain things are expected. And standards begin to change and things that may have been ok in the past....need to be rethought. So let's not pretend that she's entitled to do whatever she wants to do because that's how it started. Things change in relationships. Especially when it starts to get really serious. She isn't entitled to a relationship with him. If she has a problem with that...which she clearly does. That's her problem. She was given a choice and was given respectfully. She chose not to do it.
And NOW she's upset....?? Nah.
“Stop explaining yourself to fools and allow them to be fools. A brother that’s strong, believes in himself and willing to stand for what he believes in will always be judged by fools of all ethnicities.” -Coach Prime Time.
Keep doing your thing, Jonah Hill.
@@mr.fettesq.7705why? Why not just go with a woman who behaves the way you want initially? If certain behaviors are needed and there are women who behave that way why not date them versus saying “things need to change”? Do you expect men in relationships to avoid speaking to female coworkers? Men are more sexually loose no? Do men in relationships stop going shirtless at the beach?
@@PrettyLittleHeretic regardless of all of that, people make concessions in relationships all the dang time! Relationships are about compromises and being able to figure out if you are compatible in the long run.
We can speculate all the live long day about how he never should have gotten with her in the first place blah blah etc.....sure fine. But that's not always real life. And a person has every right to be able to decide something isn't working for them, speak to their partner about it and discuss....and then decide whether or not to take the relationship forward.
In this case they choose not to continue. And that is perfectly OK. Nothing abusive or manipulating about it. And that's the point
What bothered me the most was that he slid into her dms commenting how he liked those bikini pics…and then once they were dating, told her to delete those SAME pictures! Like she’s a surfer and has to market herself but he’s passive-aggressively telling her to remove the EXACT pictures that drew HIM in! 28:10
well from his perspective it’s logical. ‘cause if he jerked off to her pics and decided to slide into her dms, than any other joe shmoe can do the same! and it bothers his insecure ass baaaad 😅
I guess the logic here is that he recognizes that he slid into her DMs because of those pics, and fears that other men would do the same. The problem is that he’s ignoring her agency in all of this. She can chose not to interact with those DMs. As her bf he should be able to trust her to not engage, but he can’t. He isn’t ready for any relationship if that’s the case.
Couldn’t agree more.
@@MissCaraMintagree. He lacks trust in her due to his own insecurities. She should walk away and not look back.
@@alamedadancepartybruh she's sleeping over at another dudes house. No one in their right mind would be okay with that.
As a male, lemme just say, bro was in the wrong 100%. He's got a lot of issues and put it on her. Dude needs to step away from Hollywood and work on himself before entering any kind of relationship. He shouldn't expect someone to change just to accommodate him.
Yeah, he should've figured this out about his preferences earlier, he knew about her lifestyle from the beginning. Waiting until she was emotionally invested in the relationship and would fear losing it to basically tell her that he had a problem with so much of who she was was some emotionally manipulative bullshit.
I figured we would see Mr white knight show up lol BETA
100% in the wrong? This is where you lose all respect. Nobody is 100% in the wrong when it comes to mostly everything. There is ZERO nuance in your opinion. Shits wild. A bunch of people on the internet speaking for someone else.
There's a way to share your opinion without stating your opinion as a FACT. YALL WEIRD. anyway...
As a male, you are wrong
Seriously!
I’ve heard so many stories about men like Jonah. They lust after a woman and only see her for her image or sexuality. Once they “get” the woman, they become insecure and they try to make her undesirable to other men, by changing her personality or appearance etc. Because he can’t possibly see the woman as another human being, he only sees women as sexual being with the sole purpose of pleasing men.
Although you may have heard many stories of men like Jonah, it's equally as common in women.
It's not a him or her occurence. It's a they and them one
@jimmothy2192 Equally? Not so sure about that buddy
Idk as soon as I heard Jonah was asking a SURF INSTRUCTOR to stop being photographed in bikinis or surf with other men, I was like yeah he’s wrong. Like imagine dating a jiu jitsu instructor and your girlfriend being like okay but you can’t practice jiu jitsu with women. Only men. Only train other men. Like it’s just not logical. Why date someone with a career that makes you uncomfortable then ask them to end their career to be with you. Yeah I want you but if you wanna be with me you have to quit your job 😤
Or like dating a (male) personal trainer and saying not to train any women. That directly cuts their client base down by a huge chunk. And when you mess with my bag... Goodbye 👋
So she wasn't a surf instructor. She even admitted it in her later messages between friends over all this
If a girl is surfing in a flipping bikini...she's flaunting that shit out there for attention. Let's not lie to eachother. And then if she's getting photos taken of her ass to post online....again....red flag.
We have very little context
If she tanks her career to keep him, she's now financially dependent on him so he has even more control over her. What a mensch. 😬
I've noticed a rise in people using "setting boundaries" as a way to get away with toxic emotionally abusive behavior. Definitely gaslighting. Bosses, family, friends, etc. Someone is pushing this sort of thing so that toxicity becomes the norm.
Well said!
Nah...ypu aren't entitled to a relationship. Ever. Boundaries are Boundaries. Just because you may not like them doesn't make them "toxic". Get over it.
I've noticed a rise in people misusing "gaslighting". Go figure.
@@mr.fettesq.7705 It seems you're discussing a premise you don't fully understand. The best way to define boundaries is that they start and end with you. Another way to put it is "In any relationship, boundaries define where things like our personhood, our identity, our responsibility, and our control begin and end relative to the other person." Controlling someone else's behaviour, way they dress, what they post, etc. and then framing that as a boundary is not a boundary.
While you may say you're not entitled to a relationship (which is true), and may argue that ending a relationship with someone because what they post is making you uncomfortable is valid, calling requests to someone else for how they behave "a boundary" is inappropriate and misuse of that term.
It's a really interesting topic and something to be explored if you desire, and I agree with the idea that "boundaries are boundaries" wholeheartedly. However, when those boundaries aren't true boundaries and are actually borderline manipulative and controlling (imo), that isn't appropriate at all.
I think there's no way anybody who says its boundaries did a deep dive into the screenshots. Jonah's texts come off as him wanting people to make up for his insecurities. you can have boundaries, but you can't make it the other person's job to make you feel better. Meet them in the middle or put the effort in to become a stronger person. If you care about someone, you don't act like they're an asshole. you either care and treat someone like it, or you don't and it shows.
Men who think like Jonah already begin from a bad position in that they objectify every female they ever acknowledge. Women are not human beings to them socially.
How dare a man actually have preferences. He didn’t say she couldn’t do those things she just can’t date him and do those things. That isn’t objectifying anyone at all, it’s having a healthy self respect.
@@BD-1-And-Only If he wanted a woman like that why did he choose the surfer instagram model? Just pearly things is super available if he wants a modest girl.
@@BD-1-And-Only He did nothing wrong😭😭😭.... Forcing someone to delete her instagram photos and still making her feel guilty when she did it isn't manipulating😭😭😭.... Using your anxiety and other issues to condition someone's behavior is super normal😭😭😭....
He just had standards, he had a preference and it's not his fault he wanted to date a girl who didn't meet any and then make her feel guilty for not doing so😭😭😭....
@@BD-1-And-Only Is fine to keep his standards, but why didn't he acknowledge them from the start? Changing somebody is much harder than just looking for the traits you like and need in a relationship. Edit: btw I don't think it is problematic to tell your partner how you feel and ask for changes. As far as deleting photos on Instagram goes, it isn't abusive imo. For an IG model who is a surfer, in this case, it's just a baffling request. The decision of doing so, not doing so or splitting up is just another natural part of the relationship when deciding what both parties want and need. I would, however, question his train of thought when pursuing her. The photos were already there. 😅
@@BD-1-And-Only he’s literally the one that went after her, bro 😂 you can’t create new standards that don’t match up with the woman you’ve BEEN dating. At that point, it’s up to you to MAN THE HELL UP and leave.
I was actually on Jonah’s side at first, or at least thought this was all blown out of proportion because what little I knew came off as setting boundaries & being bluntly open with your partner which I fully support.. until certain details came out that are very important. I think it’s A-okay to want a modest partner, but when I found out she was a pro SURFER I realized he was a massive hypocrite. He also clearly started projecting onto her how he thought about her before the relationship started. He assumed other men would view her as a sexual object because that’s how HE viewed her when he first met her. It all wreaks of toxic insecurity.
I felt the same, not knowing about her career.
Boundaries are something you set for yourself, not other people
It's SO validating to hear Michelle say 25 isn't old because as a 25 year old I'm still so confused navigating the world
The narrative that 25-year old women are old and "expired" actually comes from the manosphere and red-pilled / incel spaces. A lot of these males are firm believers that women aren't people. They only see women as sexual objects, and are therefore incapable of rationalizing the idea of a woman striving for a rich inner life, successful career, higher education, traveling and personal enrichment.
Herein comes their belief that ALL women sleep around and have more than 1000 partners per year (you'll be surprised to learn how many incels actually believe that!!!), so the manosphere often propagates the idea that any woman over 25 - or hell, over 20 sometimes - is inevitably promiscuous and not good enough for a long-term relationship. Ironically, a lot of these red-pillers are in their 40s and see highly promiscuous men as successful instead of regarding them with the same contempt that they assess women with. They do not discriminate each other based on age, but they discrimnate women - and then have the gallbladder to scream that misogyny isn't real.
The reality is that most people's brains are done developing by the age of 25, so this is the age where you're expected to make the most rational decisions. If you're in a good place mentally and physically, you would notice the red flags if a guy in his 40s tried to lure you in. Someone younger may not. Plus, if a woman is taking up higher education, the age of 25 is generally when most people have completed a Master's degree, and therefore have a lot more opportunities for work, travel and further self-development. Redpillers don't want educated women with career opportunities, they want a barely-adult girl with very little life experience so they can control her.
No, women who are over 25 aren't old. But they are "too old" for sexual predators who want nothing more than a sex doll to control, abuse and gaslight. If a male uses that type of language for a woman, run. He's a manipulative predator and nothing more.
Sincerely, a 23-year old woman.
Take it from me, a 42 year old woman: you’re a baby. You have every reason to feel confused and have difficulty navigation and understanding yourself and the world. I don’t think that people mature out of that until after 35.
Coincidentally, 25 is around the age your brain fully develops. Seems like guys like these call us “old” to hide the fact that they just want a girl that’s easily manipulatable and that they have more power over, even though most guys can’t tell the difference between a 20 and a 27 year old.
A quarter of a century seems like a long time until you factor in how much of it was spent learning to talk, to read, where humans poop, how to do math...
@@Seliz463 this is so affirming thankyou!!
my opinion is that jonah was well aware of his ex girlfriend's interests and insta photos before their relationship. he shouldn't try to change who she is because they're together, find a more modest dressing woman if that's your preference
I think it was actually said that he found her from/dmed her on Instagram so if that’s the case, he absolutely saw and liked the photos she had on there. Smh
110% agree
Which is exactly what he did....heaven forbid a man expect the girl he plans on taking seriously ...be a bit more modest. Either way he laid it all out there and let her choose.
Now she's angry and bitter and being a psychopath. Plain and simple.
@mr.fettesq.7705 you're on the wrong page...male with a toxic view
@@mr.fettesq.7705what? If you want a modest woman, go and pick one instead of going for an IG girl and then expect her to do 180 in her personality, hobbies, career and friend choices
I don’t like how after she does take down the posts for him he continues to scold and berate her??? Like she did what he asked and he’s still trying to make her feel bad
Because she was supposed to “know better” is why. And he needs to continue to parent her.
It gets old
I mean she put their business out online. I’d be upset too. None of this is our business. There’s woman out there going through real abuse.
@@Jay41 we are talking before she went public. She complied with all her demands and he still was giving her a hard time. And I'm sorry but what does real abuse even mean? Is it only abuse if it's sexual of physical? pyschological abuse doesn't count?
@@adrianinha19he means her attempt at trying to play the victim and throw the word "abuse" out there makes her look ridiculous, crazy and stupid. Her definition of what happened to her doesn't sound anything like abuse to me. There can absoluetly be emotional abuse and none of us know what went on as it pertains to that stuff...so we can't really ever know. What we DO know is this broad put him on blast for no other reason then she's a woman scorned. She's jealous and bitter and sounds unbalanced. It's been a year or more and she's still dwelling on it. She could of decided not to dress in a thong while other men take pics of her ass for her so she can post them online. But appearently that's crossing the line.
Either way she isn't ENTITLED to a relationship with him on her terms. He may be insecure...but so is she and she's also crazy. There is no mysoginy here. Just another crazy ass female trying to use social media to attempt to get the mob to go after her ex. This is just an angry bitter ex nothing more. She should be embarrassed.
@@adrianinha19unless you are a child or in the persons custody i dont think psychological abuse should count
Controlling behaviour is not a boundary.
I'm only a few minutes in, but seeing this man reminds me of how freaking awesome Jack Black is. Owning being the funny fat guy and being able to laugh at himself while still being so confident and kind and really freaking talented. Jonah Hill needs to take notes.
Jack Black is sexy as hell.
The difference is Jonah secretly always wanted to be the Hollywood hottie... he had the fame and money but wasn't getting 1st pick of the ladies that say... Brad Pitt, James Franco can get without trying.
He isn't the guy that women first try to get close to in Hollywood for romantic relationships hence his insecurity even after the weight loss.
Jack Black always had the charisma to be a lead. I wish there were more movies where he got to be. He was always the best part of whatever movie he was in.
Shit. What about the other half of Tenacious D? Give some love to Kyle!
I mean I can kinda Jonahs position. Always being a joke will hurt someone. However I don't appreciate him taking that out on others. He should take it out on himself. Nothing is keeping him fat except himself.
Those men talking about teenage and younger women like that 🤢🤧 sickening behaviour
Another amazing video as always whilst looking gorgeous as ever? You're spoiling us ❤
funny how danny devito's looks played into his roles but didn't destroy his ego. Jonah really thought he could handle using his bad looks to make it in comedy but he was wrong lol.
There's something wrong with you and it's not my job to explain just what that is
I thought he lost out after becoming healthier because he was no longer the overweight funny guy. He’s an ex Theater Kid. Some of those guys carry hangups with them long past high school. Fat or thin, he’s a solid actor IMO.
or maybe he got tired of it being his only personality trait 😭
That's because Danny's a national hero and doesn't make his challenges everyone else's problem.
Thissssss
This is the classic example of a person who has had too much therapy and has basically taken on the language in order to manipulate and drive the other person crazy while appearing open and just “stating boundaries” the entire time. His therapist should be mortified.
He has had the therapy but didn’t do the work to connect his triggered feelings to his insecurities. He can identify what he dislikes about others, but still thinks it means that the other person needs to change. We are supposed to learn how our old wounds control our perception of our present circumstances, and find the internal power to heal. If we stay stuck believing that external circumstances are causing our insecurities, we will see other people as “the problem” and chase power through controlling others… and yet never truly feel good for long. Because we can never truly create the positive sense of self without taking accountability for ourselves.
I was thinking this the entire time!
Yea....plain and simple....a man or woman can state whatever boundaries they want. And the other person can choose to go with or not go with. He didn't do anything wrong here at all.
However this broad....is bitter and splashed it all over the internet to try and be a victim and shame the guy and get him hate.
@@mr.fettesq.7705 Boundaries are all about taking responsibility for ourselves. He didn’t state boundaries, he created rules to control HER behavior that triggered HIS insecurities. And when one set of rules didn’t work, he kept digging at HER to figure out what had to change to make HIM feel better. She seems to have taken accountability for the missed opportunities as a result of trying to follow his “rules”. He doesn’t seem to have taken ownership of his insecurities though, as evidenced by his unclear boundaries in their “friendship”, while he was in another relationship. Shady behavior feels powerful in the moment but bankrupts you over time. Accountability feels uncomfortable in the moment but blesses you over time. I wish both of them well.
@@laha5822 I never said the dude wasn't insecure. But at the end of the day...he listed what he expects long term. And she can accept it or not. Eitherway she had a choice. He didn't force her to do anything.
Eitherway, the very last thing this girl did was accept accountability in any way. If she had, she wouldn't be posting her private conversations all over Twitter and trying to play like she's some kind of poor little victim. It didn't pan out quite the way she wanted it to though and is prob trying to back track a bit.
This girl and accountability can't even be mentioned in the same sentence. She thought the world would have her back but it didn't. In my opinion they are both dumb. He perhaps asks for too much....and she craves attention and validation. Eitherway....he's a wealthy celebrity and has afforded himself the ability to have crazy expectations if he so wishes as long as he ain't forcing anything on anyone and physicaly harming anyone.
If she wanted to marry him....then she would make the sacrifices necessary in order to be with a higher profile man. She didn't so he moved on and so did she.....except she didnt...and attempted to put him on blast under the guise of being an "abuse victim". This shit happened like a year ago or so and he's having a baby with another woman.
I'm sorry...but she just comes off bitter and like she wants to ruin whatever he's got going on with someone else. Super petty and pathetic. Girl needs to move on already
He's foul for this. The fact that his woman can't have male friends and yet he's sexting his ex. Boundaries for me but not for thee.
Especially because it's her job.and she has to make business connections. Like the hek 🤨
@@Long-live-vacation It's not her job to flirt with other men
When did he say she can't have male friends.
Actually thats reasonable to not have guy friends if he's not ok w that but at the same time, he shouldn't be fuckin w his ex
@@ibot2157but it’s his job to be sexting his ex while he’s in a relationship 🤨
to me the issue is
It’s totally okay to not want to date a sexy surfer who posts pics on her instagram. it is not okay to date a sexy surfer who posts pics on her instagram and tell her that she needs to stop what she’s doing because you don’t want to date a sexy surfer who posts pics on her instagram.
So Jonah was a very unhappy 14 year old because he was obese but he blames his mother for his lingering issues because she tried to help him lose weight and that made him feel bad about himself. He's the eternal victim.
A lot of people seem to assert boundaries as they are the only ones who have them.
The fact that Jonah gets so easily triggered and always uses his anxiety as an excuse, tells me that his therapist isn’t doing a good job, so it’s funny to me that they decided to do a documentary on his “unique” therapy skills lol
Honestly it's sad but a therapist can only do as good of a job as their client will let them. So if someone has manipulative tendencies or extreme insecurities about the image they present, they're like not to divulge full transparent truths and emotions. While therapist are trained to spot some of these things they're also not miracle workers and I have the feeling this might be an issue for Jonnah
@@maiganmattson5836While this is true, I also don't think a therapist should tell their client they loved them. Or love them without telling. You're too invested and it won't work out at this point. And telling everyone what you're doing is absolutely unique and you nearly have God given powers to heal everything psychological (as it sounded to me), the therapist here probably needs therapy himself and isn't doing Jonah or himself any good
A therapist doesn't do the work for their patient. Much like a personal trainer can't lift the weights for a client a therapist cannot do the work on a person's behavior. Also, unlike many conditions of a physical nature (not all of course, chronic illness exists) the underlying conditions that might lead to behavior do not go away but only become better managed or seen for what they are and expressed in more helpful ways. A therapist serves a platform for reflection, offers insight based on education and experience, and cheerleads in a way but in the end...it comes down to the person. Quick edit to say that some therapists, especially in the woo shit, are likely more harmful than helpful.
Don’t blame Stutz… maybe Jonah wasn’t completely honest with him.
"Triggered" he told her his boundaries, she didn't, they broke up.
I do cosplay and pro wrestling, and I'm sorry, if my husband suddenly told me I need to quit posting cosplay pictures online and couldn't wrestle at the same events as men, when these were things that attracted him to me in the first place, I would laugh in his face and think it's a joke. As Michelle said, if he were to admit he was insecure, it's something I'd be willing to talk through and try to make compromises, but to just demand an ultimatum that I quit my job and hobbies and suddenly call it "boundaries" when the same boundaries don't apply to him, I just don't understand how people can think that's healthy.
Gaslighting, abuse, trauma-dumping, narcissism, manipulation, predator, etc. DEFINITELY gets thrown around more than it should. I also don't like how in this generation every relationship with an age-gap is automatically considered predatory.
With that being said, Jonah is, indeed, controlling and abusive. He hides behind "I'm just setting boundaries :)" and his insecurities to control what she did. What does HER wearing a bikini on a hot ass beach have to do with YOUR bodily autonomy??! 😭 These types of ppl don't need to be in a relationship, like at all. Also further proof that therapy can't help everyone. He literally took medical/psychological terms and abuse them to lord over her. If you're gonna have a problem wit your 25 y.o. gf wanting to live her still young life doing what she loves before and after she dated you, then maybe you shoulda gotten wit a NON SURFER that's your own age 💁
I can only pray for his new gf.
i dont believe there is evidence to support that every relationship with an age gap is automatically considered predatory. what I have seen though is some people assume it does happen often. 'every' though,...thats a stretch
@@lowlowseesee The use of "every" was hyperbolic. It was meant to fit in with how that "predator" gets thrown around too much. Ofc I didn't mean "every" as in literally 💀
I am divorcing someone 15 years older than me after 20 years. I thought I was the exception to the rule. Turns out older men who go after much younger women strike out with women in their own age range because they are emotionally immature man-babies. 100% of the time. They tell younger women that they are more mature than their age, but the truth is that they are immature. The woman will outgrow them.
I mean to be fair its a little extreme to say he should be left alone forever, because being alone is what caused these issues. His issue is he isn't taking therapy seriously. Anyone can go to therapy but if you don't go with the mindset to change you won't. He needs to fall in love with a girl he'd never want to lose.
@@BronzedBeast Uhmm I'm sitting here wondering where did you get the "He should be alone forever." Part from. I was saying that if you're going to be THIS insecure, paranoid, and controlling over your partner then you don't need to be in a relationship UNTIL you resolve these personal issues. I said the exact same thing to my abusive father years ago and I'm still saying this cuz he never changed and never will. Some ppl really can't be helped - that's just the sad reality of it.
Hold up Jonah is almost 40?? Acting like this? If you don't have trust in a relationship, then you have nothing. Thank you for doing a whole deep dive on this.
I got so excited over this video I slurred a full sentence together and told my husband that there was a new “McVideo” up. He laughed and I am not allowed to call your videos anything else now.
Hahah! That’s great! I’m taking this 😂
Why is it always the funny guys who act like the sweet, funny, teddy bear types but underneath they are insecure, abusive, controlling and just in need of therapy....
I never understood why people who find their future S.O. on social media or in real life half dressed or naked then demand them to remove those pictures or stop taking those pictures once they're dating. You knew that's how they dressed. What's the issue now?!
The look her boyfriend gave when she was dancing was so cute and wholesome! It was practically saying, "I love this goofball"
I also do crazy stuff like that and my husband looks at me the same way ❤
I'm very tomboy and don't wear "girly" clothes very often or makeup, don't do my nails ect, this guy asked me out and after a few weeks started saying I should "take more pride in my appearance, wear makeup more often, style my hair instead of just pulling it up", so I did and almost instantly our intimate engagements dropped to almost zero, he staryed going for drinks with friends, eventually he was spending the night at "friends" houses. Of course he was cheating and when I confronted him he said he just wasn't as attracted to me any more. 🙄 Wonder how that happened genius?🤔
Hill always creeped me out, he is so insecure. He doesn't want friends or partners, he wants a permanent psychologist who also worships the ground he walks on.
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You don’t know Jonah like how we know him
@@Kashie2from what? the internet? i think we all know him the exact same as you 😭
@@lils738 no
@@lils738 people with a brain and people who don’t just jump to conclusions
Controlling men like Jonah really make me glad I am single and living my best life. I had someone similar but he had a problem that I had gay friends because they might turn straight for me. It’s just another way of saying „I objectify you and reduce you to only sex so any other man wants to fuck you as well and you can’t be desirable to any other guy out there.“ it’s disgusting. I had to break up because I had my best gay friend since school times, met his boyfriend and we traveled and never once was he inappropriate to me.
turn straight lolol. men are so dumb. i remember working at a strip club as a bouncer. and some of the bfs of the dancers actually though the dancers were just partying there and into the men that came in. they are so lost lol. its a job and the customers were lame lol
Also let me isolate you from any friends or outside support you have and take away your life piece by piece so I can manipulate you more easily and no one can check my behavior 🙄
Omg lol had the same comment made to me by an ex. Honestly seems insane now but at the time, the demands like that people make in relationships can seem reasonable because "if you love them" you'll adjust to them. But definitely it's that you're just an object or an accessory to their lives and not a real person. I was once told people only pay me attention (in any context) because I have big boobs, this from a man who wore the tightest trousers on stage because he thought it would be funny to have his dick visible. Insecure people are awful partners
Jonah is a classic example of projecting your insecurity on another person
I dated a Jonah thinking he was a nice person…looks didn’t matter. I was wrong, he started criticizing my looks, comparing me to other better looking women, and an ahole . Mind you he was 5’3 male and not the best looking …but I was young and dumb. Looks don’t matter …the ugly are ugly sometimes 😂🤷🏽♀️ ugly outside don’t mean pretty inside 😂
Same here. He was over weight and had a huge scar across his face. I should’ve known better, as I met him while working at Hooter. (Not my best life decision, but I was 19). I ended up leaving him at the altar. He complained my outfit at the rehearsal dinner was too revealing….. um my parents picked it out! And he screamed at my sister for putting a photo of me in a bikini on the slideshow. Thank God I left him. I would be dead in a ditch or a miserable person at best by now.
reminds me of my first boyfriend at 19 who cheated on me and excused it saying "I thought you were cheating too" (completely untrue), exposing that he had been projecting the whooooole time. Sad.
Seems like he wants a woman who just wants to be known as his wife, and only his boundaries are the only one's that are important. Im glad i saw this video and see much more and agree with you on EVERYTHING!
He literally got a woman pregnant like 2 months after they broke up. He wanted to breeeed
Controlling behavior is not setting boundaries 🙄 using mental health for manipulation is not okay. Just because your partner has anxiety or depression doesn't mean that you have alter yourself to soothe or prevent all their triggers/insecurities. There are so many things wrong with his behavior. It's gross
You're right although sleeping over at a dudes house once a week is an exception. I think you and I can both agree that's a good boundary. He doesn't need to sleep over at a girls house and vice versa.
As a survivor of narcissistic abuse, I really wish people would learn what those "buzzwords" mean. They are very powerful reference points for survivors to understand what theyve been through, and the tactics that were used against them by the narcissist. When you just fling those words around interchangeably with the less extreme language that would be more accurate for those every day assholes, it takes validation away from the people who NEED that language to heal. Thank you so much for pointing that out, Michelle. I know you survived your fathers narcissistic bs so it really rings so much more true coming from someone who gets it because they have lived it.
The fact that he told her SHE should end it if she can’t meet his demands (boundaries🤣) says enough. If someone can’t respect your boundaries then YOU end it. What he was doing was emotionally manipulating the situation (abuse).
I actually read a comment recently comparing her job to having a ' secret onlyfans account'...I'm not even kidding... apparently knowingly dating someone who surfs for a living is comparable to that, to some people, and is ' crossing boundaries'.
I think if you get with a person who's very into social media and showing their body, you knew what you were getting into and you can't just demand they change everything for youm I think it's ok to make reasonable requests and compromises, but you can't expect them to change the reasons you were attracted to them in the first place.
And I think it's completely unrealistic to expect a person to not interact with the opposite sex. If you do that terribly controling behaviour and if you distrust them that much, break up. Either to find a person who won't cheat and you can trust to talk to half of the population or to work on yourself and whatever is making you controling.
This whole thing about meeting a person who is confident, fun and outgoing and falling in love with that and then chipping that away and making them a meak shadow of themselves just so no one else can see the things you fell in love with us extremely sad. Very much picking a flower so no one else can look at it.
If you don't trust them, leave. If you do then you shouldn't have an issue. If you dislike those kinds of people, find a traditional person who is more modest by choice and you won't have to change them.
I love your analogy about the flower. It reminds me of that saying, "when you like a flower, you pluck it. When you love a flower, you water it daily."
You did so much more research than the political influencers I've seen. I'm pretty conservative and a christian myself, and i always appreciate your sane and balanced takes on all the crazy drama. 😅
Yeah, it was way more texts and context than I had initially seen about this situation.
Of course political influencers have an agenda they're going to side with someone like this if they're conservative and people like amber heard if they're leftists
I am Christian and moderate myself and watch a wide array of opinions, but always come back for Michelle’s balanced takes…
You just said 2 of the deadliest and most evil words you can call someone these days. I'd watch my back if I were you
@@fordshojoe8080 shut up ❤
Jonah gives me this vibe of a neurotic man with recurring and intrusive thoughts about himself, I think he spends worrying amounts of time thinking about himself and his image, as well as overanalyzing each and every one of his interactions.
Definitely. And super insecure about his looks. Filming jumpstreet next to that very handsome guy - who's name I cannot come up with at the moment - must have been torture for him. 😄
He's like George Costanza where he just finishes having sex and then he's in bed asking the girl he just had sex with if she thinks Jerry's girlfriend liked him
@@catwalkster Channing Tatum
@@niamarielove Yes! Thank you:)
If I had a partner that talked so condescendingly to me ("Good start, but it's not my place to teach you") after I complied with their requests, the relationship would end on the spot. Like, what the hell?
The audacity for an average looking guy give a hot intelligent girl and ultimatum as if she didn’t already lower her standard when she chose to date him.
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So because she "hot" even though she kinda mid gives her the okay to do what ever? I agree he shouldn't of been an ass but being pissed at her basically second relationship is completely fair. Be honest her behavior with that Frankie dude is sus and if your man even likes another girl's post you'll be shoving your fist down his throat and this girl is having full on sleep overs. That's a dick appointment
Once upon a time I was in a relationship that looked like this. He tried to make me stop hanging with people if he wasn't there, had issues with how I dressed in public, was checking my phone/text history. He was suddenly talking about how he would look and what people will say if I did this or that. He wanted me to be a totally different person that I was when he met me. I have no idea why I stayed with him for 2 years
He is insecure and it is manifesting in control. He saw something he wanted, got it and now can’t handle it. She needs to move on.
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This guy got control issues. Telling her she doesn't need to pursue her career cos he got her financially then kicks her to the curb.
I think the issue with Jonah hill is not that he set boundaries, it's that he pursued a woman whose lifestyle doesn't suit his boundaries.
Men do this all the time, talking about wanting a decent woman who dresses modestly and is basically a wholesome girl next door, but they chase IG thots and date women who wear layers of make up and use lots of filters and then they trash ("humble") women who aren't wearing make up and showing off lots of skin cuz they're not "as hot" as the filtered, make up wearing, skin revealing IG thot they secretly want. and then these men will complain about boundaries when that's the woman they chased to begin with, and also complain that these women are arrogant or narcissistic.
Stop going after the women that don't suit your needs.
I respect anyone who wants to dress modestly and wants their partner to do the same but… that’s clearly not what’s going on, this dude just wants full control over this woman and her body because he’s insecure.
I’ve been working so hard on my body the past year and if some dude came along and was like ‘ummm those shorts have a 3” inseam and I don’t like other men looking at you’ I would simply lose my mind. And it’s not even a part of my job, so kudos to her for not flipping out on him
For about the first two or threee texts I was like "Okay, kind of a weird ask but everyone has their preferences" and then the more I learned the more that fell down a cliff
My most recent ex was controlling as well. Now that we’ve broken up and I’m dating again, I’ve been able to notice the weird controlling critical comments they make early on so they get kicked to the curb immediately. Getting with someone then trying to change everything about who they were when y’all met is peak weird. A relationship with someone who loves you shouldn’t feel like isolation and having your wings clipped.
The first thing a man tries to control he gets kicked out, I'm allergic to people trying to control, I just want to live my life and be myself and if it's too much for your ego leave, I just can't stand people who notice others weaknesses and try to control them by using it against them (good example shaming someone for their looks).
Agreed. I think there is a different between controlling behavior and actual standards and boundaries though. You shouldn't be trying to change a person, that said....I'm no about to be OK with my girl posting a bunch of half naked photos online for attention for a bunch of men to look at. That's not "changing" someone. That's a straight up standard.
@@mr.fettesq.7705but would you date someone who posts those pictures constantly to start
Also I sort of missed it but is the photography part of her job or just her hobby? Is she an influencer or something?
Anyways I just think you should know what you are getting into to start with and not expect it to change that much after being in a relationship, when it comes to one’s public image and behavior especially. If someone posts skimpy pictures that could well be an important part of their personality or tastes or job. Different shakes for different jakes or whatever
Can you give examples?
I believe you, I'm just interested in what guys say. From a guy's perspective when women say "I'm bad at texting" or "I'm too picky" or "men are intimidated by me" those are glaring red flags that this is going to be the most emotionally draining person you ever met.
@@mr.fettesq.7705 I’m a firm believer in not trying to change the way someone carries themselves relationship or single. Not dating someone who posts like that is totally okay, but you just simply shouldn’t date someone who wants to post things like that in the first place in my opinion. I don’t date men who go to strip clubs single or otherwise for example.
It feels like Michelle is making longer and more in depth videos and I'm loving it.
The use of all the goofy Titan faces to display Jonah's emotions is perfect
Good rule of thumb is that if your partner suddenly asks you to stop doing something (like quit your hobby) they will ask something else in the future and if you agree the first time, the second time it is harder not to, because you have already invested a lot into the relationship and over time youll have less and less freedom and you start to believe that your partner is the only one who cares about you and only thing you have.
He is grossly misusing the word "boundary". A boundary is meant/set in order to *protect YOURSELF* not control others.
You put a fence around *your OWN house,* you have *no right* to control your neighbor's fence, and if they even want to put one up at all.
One of my boundaries is that I don't go to a man's house for a 1st/2nd/3rd date etc. That is to *protect me* from getting graped and k!lled. And the second a man tests that boundary, I know all I need to know about him, and ditch them.
Jonah is not setting boundaries, he is controlling this woman's actions.
I do think the word narcissistic is way overused, but at the same time, Jonah marks all the boxes.
Maybe it's overuse because there's a lot more of them now, or because we finally do understand what that is and can see there's always been a lot of people like that.
@@adrianinha19 I really do think the internet has exposed how many people are legitimately narcissistic mostly because how exposed how we are to the rest of the world
@@adrianinha19Yep a lot of people fit the bill. Why? Humans put people like this in power. Clearly it's a heavily reproduced set of traits and now we all suffer the consequences
Definitely late to the party, but that's like saying that there are more cases of autism now. That's not true, the condition is just more well-known now, and neuroscience has evolved enough to make the appropriate diagnosis. Narcs have always existed, they were just called something else like "assholes," "psychos," "insane," "crazies," "deranged," "weirdos," etc. I'm pretty sure that that's what happening. We just have a more accurate label now. BUT, I am sure that the word gets weaponized pretty often by people who try to make themselves the victim without taking accountability for their part of the blame.
What Jonah said after their breakup is total hypocrisy. He said he didn’t want her talking to men ir not have male friends, but it’s oke for him to do so? He may think “I know I’m trustworthy” but would he buy that if his wife was hanging with an ex or even just a male friend? Tf
We must protect all the teen girls against men like that guy omg. He just admitted he likes women with no opinion and he could impress aka manipulate and control (groom)
I was just talking to a grown man in his 30s that was super interested and loving me and all my photos . Then after talking more and getting more serious he started shooting shady shots saying i was fat and i shouldn’t feel comfortable wearing my leggings and crop top or sports bra to the gym or around afterwards running errands . Continuously would tear me down anyyyy chance he got . Eventually i had to let him go as much as there were “green flags” . Thinking back i think it’s because he saw how confident i was at the time and he was insecure about himself and his body so he would try to bring me down with him. It’s honestly sad . Any man or woman that do things like this need to work on themselves before entering any relationship in my opinion. Anyways that being said if anyone out there is dealing with a similar situation please please do your best to continue being yourself no matter what anyone else tells you . Also if you are i suggest rethinking the relationship
YES YES YES YES YES
My husband also started out like this, just making weird demands like telling me to change my clothes. It got to the point he would shove or punch me if I didn't change my clothes. Or try to force me to get out of the car or refuse to take me anywhere (I had no license) So I'd be stuck at home trapped. Unless I wore what he demanded. It may not be bad now because she broke up with him, But it could have devolved into something very violent. Avoid controlling people. People who need control like that are not mentally okay and will absolutely end up hurting you.
Current husband? 😅
Hope you find a way to escape
Girl run
yeah you definitely should pick up Why DOes He Do that by lundy bancroft. hide it or even read it free on line when your husband isnt around. if you tell people to avoid controlling people you should do yourself that same solid. good luck
Been there. Hope you escape.
Just imagine for a moment what the reaction would have been if she would have started making "boundaries" that acting in movies that included other women was disrespectful, that when he went to any Hollywood events he had to say hi and end the conversation with any women, and he could only go to coffee or something "respectful" with friends he clears with her first. Imagine if she expressed that she was insecure that being an actor put him in a spotlight that attracted a lot of women, so he needed to make a decision if that was more important than the security of their relationship.
I seriously hate men that go after young people and don't acknowledge they are young, not as experienced, still learning, could change, and that they don't have the right to be in charge like a parent just because they're older, if you want a young partner you're gonna have to deal with what comes with having a fricken younger partner, choose someone your own age if that's too big of a problem, but they're probably too immature and controlling to get anyone their own age so maybe just live alone and get some plants to take care of you can't fuck with a plants feelings at least
The clip around 18:00 - I reacted exactly like that girl. What a creep.
"I love teenagers" Disgusting.
I agree with just throwing words like abuse and gaslighting but wow, he's projecting hard and I'm now questioning everyone supporting this behavior
Honestly he sounds exactly like my ex boyfriend who was incredibly controlling. I really empathize with her and being made to feel like you’re not good enough for someone unless you meet all of their unreasonable requests to help their insecurities instead of them working on their insecurities. Also, as soon as you ask him to change something he comes back saying he’s perfect and doesn’t need to change.
@@GulfbeachMateo Michelle covers that those texts were faked by a tiktoker that labeled the video "satire".
To me it was more of a break up text of why we aren't compatible, and he was going above and beyond to phrase it in such a way where he isn't the bad guy, kind of trying to convince her to be the one to break up, or make it a mutual decision. She could walk away from it knowing her platform exploded when she showed up on red carpet with him, so it's not like he took her out of the spotlight. **this isn't to say that he's not manipulative, he is in fact a male feminist lol
If you think that a man with boundaries is toxic you won't find one who want to commit to you
Forreal
@@hailberseker5387 such a lie lol
Billie said it best when she said NEVER give an ugly guy a chance lol iykyk
Unfortunately kill the cheerleader exist. You gonna pay for all the hot girls that rejected him.
Yep. I ve dated an u ly dude for a month (nothing intimate tho, thankfully😂) he was so insecure all the time. Yikes 17 year old me lol
As someone who did a lot of therapy in their life and also knows a lot of people who did a lot of therapy. I feel like there is often that point of over correcting, where you try to "finally take care of yourself and don't let people disrespect you or your boundaries" anymore. But actually you're just really sensitive and borderline toxic while you're "protecting and respecting yourself". I had this phase for sure but I think I'm over it now. I think it's important to know that in the process of therapy you might be a bit self absorbed for a while and that's okay (there is a reason for that after all) but not if you are hurting others in the process and overstep their boundaries. Don't be so focused on being the victim that you can't see your wrong doing anymore. (Was the last sentence still English? Idk. but I guess you get the point) :)
People definitely like to weaponize the concept of "boundaries."
This guy played the perfect "nice guy " role in megamind and after all these messages , I only see his nice guy character. Definitely a foreshadowing role 😂
Its like if he saw a cat , fed and adopted the cat and then forces it to eat only dog food , play like a dog and gets mad when the cat still doesnt bark 😂
The barbie "I have a boyfriend!" Made my day 😂😂
The Barbie+Superman scene absolute gold 😂
I wouldn't call him an abuser but it's clear that he is highly insecure and has a toxic (overused word I know) outlook on relationships. Your assessment of this is spot on. His expectations won't be unreasonable for some people, arguably many people, but they were unreasonable for her and in my opinion he should have known that going into the relationship. If you want to date a hot 24-year-old you have to be okay with her acting like a hot 24-year-old. He should date someone closer to his age with a similar conservative outlook when it comes to what is appropriate to do in a relationship. There are plenty of women in this world who are perfectly okay with dressing modestly and not hanging out with other men.
He needs to deal with his insecurities. Him still being insecure about having once been an overweight teenager is not her or anyone else’s fault. He’s a grown man now.
Eughhh girl, good riddance. One of my exes was so much like this. No male friends allowed. I wasn't allowed to have certain female friends either, unless they were clearly very against the few times I hooked up with someone or the fact that I used to drink a lot in college (the only friend that met his criteria was one of my Christian friends, just based on her religion. She actually didn't give a shit what I chose to do but he just figured they had the same "moral code"). He kept me overweight to keep me insecure. Constantly made me apologise for things I'd done years before I even met him but had no way to "fix". It was isolating and miserable and I am sad that Sarah and others have also gone through the same. As Michelle says, jus throw out the whole man as soon as the warning signs start coming.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. For what it’s worth you have the support of this random internet stranger. I hope you find happiness.
Bruh you out yourself as a cheater and say good riddance to him? Nah good riddance to you. Also this whole mindset:"he kept me fat is wild." You chose to be fat. No one pointed a gun at your head and said eat. Unless your wording was off and I'm in the wrong you are indeed the problem. You're basically saying he doesn't want you hooking up and be around women that encourage it. You're allowed to feel the same. He shouldn't be having female friends that you're worried he'll fuck nor should he have male friends that encourage cheating.
Also when did talking no become the norm. These ain't one sided convos. Relationships are about compromises. You don't need to immediately end stuff. Go to couples therapy. Work stuff out. Then break it off if it ain't working out
@@BronzedBeast Who hurt you? This person very clearly did not say in any way that they were a cheater. this is just a story you mad up inside your own head, and then decided to get mad about. So who made you so angry as to make up an imaginary slight that you could lash out at an internet stranger for like this?
@@BronzedBeast Girly you're embarrassing yourself fr
The part where you went into the kitchen and yelled at Garret and his reaction was hilarious! My husband and I both loved it. Will probably watch this video again, even if only that part. You could turn it into a short, it's so good! You guys make such a lovely couple. May you always have be so happy and loved 💜🌹
The content creator Psychology in Seattle that Michelle used clips from is amazing btw. Dr. Kirk Honda is a marriage and family therapist and professor who trains psychologists. Most of his content since the pandemic has been reacting to reality TV (and celebrity drama etc.) and breaking down why the people involved reacted and communicated the way they did, then explaining how they could have communicated what they're trying to communicate in a way that is healthy. It is amazing content to watch if you want to improve your communication skills in your relationships and your general understanding of people.
Eh, I’ve seen him have some really bad takes as well. He’s fine, but he’s not amazing.
@@Feverm00n Some of his takes have definitely been off the mark before but nobodies gonna be "right" all the time. We're all different with different experiences so will notice and focus on different things. In general I'd say he's very insightful and I do have to agree with OP that he gives good communication advice. I also think he's very fair and compassionate towards people which I think a lot of people can learn from, especially this day and age on the internet 😅
He's certainly not amazing. Also he is insanely racist towards white people. Especially white Americans. I'm not even american but his racists remarks, all the time complaining about 'racists white americans' who in reality did something that is not racist at all. Or he comes up with things and so called facts that are just completely untrue. Its so annoying and the reason I stopped watching him.
And he acts like being Japanese is so fantastic but Japan is one of the most racist and misogynistic countries on the planet. ( facts. Google it )
I mean, he is trying to police how people use words like "abuse" "trauma" "nacissistic" like...is not your job to turn people into walking medical dictionaries, were we can only use the correct definition of things or else we are wrong, it's like invalidating someone's experience when you tell them "well, akshually, what you mean is not abuse but a minor disagreement" like, bitch, if I felt abuse it's for a reason, do not correct me until you get my whole story and then we can analyze if my perception was off or not, but to tell people that hey are describing their own experiences wrong already makes me not want to trust him.
There's a reason why people like Jonah don't open with their expectations for a relationship. They'd never get with the people they want because the beautiful, confident, smart and interesting ones all have standards and boundaries that would rule them out after that convo because they know they can get with someone who embodies all those qualities in kind with expectations that line up with the life they want to live anyways so they don't have to minimise themselves or change their personality or give anything up to be in a happy relationship. People like him already know their expectations are out of whack and repulsive and very much not right. So they wait until they can get you to invest enough in a relationship to the point you'll wonder "is it worth losing them to keep enjoying x" it's definitely bootyvoid behaviour and deffo stems from insecurities they'd rather accommodate because it feels easier than try to work through. Funnily or tragically in the long term they actually make their lives a lot harder because they deprive themselves of happy relationships based on trust, respect, care and FUN in favor of making their partners miserable and winding up in loveless marriages (because how can you be affectionate or share anything special with someone devoted to removing joy from your life) or with an endless string of people continuously leaving them because the people they date can see the demands of the insecurities becoming too much before it becomes difficult to leave so they just do. And they won't feel bad about leaving because if someone like that can tollerate making you miserable every day, why should you feel bad about making them miserable by leaving? Why tollerate it "to treasure the relationship" when you can find someone who strives to make you happy and respects you and does what you enjoy with you (or at least supports the fact you keep doing it) and you can big them up and give them the most precious parts of yourself instead because you know they'll also thrive there and you both can just keep getting better and better, which is a very standard mutual benefit to expect in a relationship. I feel like that's something the jonahs and the "alpha" males don't get. I always say, you won't agree on everything, but you definitely should on the important stuff so always ask your potential partner open ended questions to get an honest opinion (what do you think about x? How many kids do you want?) ones that don't sound like you have any bias either way and if those important things don't line up move on because those will end your relationship in the long run and make one or both of you unhappy. Best advice I ever got
🤢 This hit too close to home for me. My ex was such a hypocrite and always thought he was a "good" guy. I am so mad at myself that I was with him for so long. Also, I have no idea how people can't see that he was being manipulative.
“It’s not my place to teach you” yup! He is a feminist
Those messages though… he’s just there like a lawyer pleading his case like he knows it’ll be exposed. Also he sounds like he’s trying to convince himself he’s a good person. Great video Michelle!
Perfect. An hour long video by Michelle to keep me entertained during my boring ass 14 hour shift 🥰🥰
I just want to say I appreciate you so much for 1) covering this and sharing your thoughts and 2) making a long video.
I can't wait for more of your content like this in the future.
Really reminded me of my ex boyfriend. He was always trying to put me down and make me small.
Also I get a feeling he’s trying to make her not have a job? Like he’s actively trying to sabotage her career. What does he want to do? Financially control her too? Feels like it. Stuff would have gotten way worse. The way he talks to her in those texts? Yeah. It would have gotten worse.
The brain is fully developed around mid to late 20's. That is why older men saying they like teens makes it even more disgusting. That is predatory behaviour. Jonah knew who she was and what she did before they got together. She shouldn't have caved to his requests to take the images off.They weren't explicit, they were normal for her profession. Jonah has 0 chill for a surfer. Seriously bro relax.
I can’t believe all this stuff that’s insanely intimate and important to speak about is all written through text. If you can’t speak these issues out in person that is the biggest clue you’re not right for one another 🙄 ://///
100% agree. I thought that immediately. I’m surprised more people aren’t bringing that up.
"I'm the best girlfriend ever!!!" omg his face after lol That was great
"You gotta throw the whole man away." When she said that and should the footage of a guy getting thrown in the trash can alongside the context, I just pictured her lifting him up and yeeting him into the dumpster.
HE’S A HOLLYWOOD ACTOR AND HE IS AGAINST HER MODELING? 🤣🤣🤣 WHAT WORLD DOES THIS GUY LIVE IN???
I dealt with almost this exact same kind of bs. It's a downward spiral and acquiescing to demands will only make you depressed and leave you with serious self doubt. My ex excused his controlling by saying his friends all agreed, but I said he needs to make friends with better people bc none of this shit is healthy.