Lol sorry for calling him boomer, he’s gen x. BUT for the people upset I called him old…HE IS, compared to a 16-19 year old. Come on y’all…you Remember being 16 and that 30 something hit on you. First thing you said was…what? Old. I’m old compared to a 16 year old and have no business commenting certain things on their profiles.
Additionally, never rule out the possibility that the person your going to the hotel with could secretly have serial killer ambitions. For me, I won't go anywhere private with someone I don't know until I've known them IRL for awhile, and met or spoken with mutual friends/acquaintances or been introduced to some of their peeps (i ask eound on my own also). This process is known as: "vetting", and it's a natural and healthy part of building friendships and relationships. That's just me though.
@@miunya funny story- back in the day when I had a effed up family, we were on a road trip, and got a hotel room. I woke up in the middle of the nite b/c my father was snoring so loudly. Being disoriented, and never having heard such raucous sounds in the night, I thought a bear was literally there in attack mode in the dark. It was terrifying.
It makes me wonder if the girl in this video has any women looking out for her. I was always told to meet men in a public outdoor place where lots of people would be. This is good advice for females of any age.
it turned real quiet from the creepy men as soon as I stopped looking like a teenager….that’s the worst part, like they are only interested when you look young enough to take advantage of.
I don't know but as a 38 yo woman I feel more annoyed by younger dudes now. At least I can shut them 5 pretty quickly but when I was a 17 yo being harassed daily on the streets that shi was rough. But it was always a certain type of old farts I swear. Certainly not all men lol
I’ve noticed this exact thing now looking back to my time as a kid/teen and now every time i read of others experiences regarding it I get the ick all over again.
same.. i used to get catcalled a lot when i was a teenager and the amount of men trying to get my attention went down so much since then. it’s concerning
I'm a 37 year old man and when I see 18 year old girls they look like BABIES. Hell I was even talking to 23 year old and her immaturity drove me up a wall. I can't imagine what it'll be like I'm 56, probably like "35 year olds look like children to me" lol
I'm a 37 year old woman and I agree...it actually enrages me now when I think of the age imbalances of all the old creepy dudes that hit on me as a teen 🤢
Its also the generational gap/stages of life. When you hit 25 dating a 40 year old is borderline weird to you. Less so if probably 50 dating a 65 year old.
@@tonym.8069 tbh I just dated someone 7-8 years younger, so I'm 37 and he's now 29-30, we met when I was 35. Even though he was chill and whatnot, it was still weird and I never made the relationship a huge deal or emotional investment. He's almost 30 but still mentally, it's just not the same at all. When you hit 30 a lot changes. So we broke up anyway, but it was fun for what is was...my thing is, if I was as delusional as some of these dudes I'd be trying to marry that dude and expect him to emotionally reach my level, which he can't do at this point, he's not even in his thirties. I was playing Tupac, and his ass is showing me Coi LeRay videos 🤣🤦🏻♀️ like I was like "you're a baaaaby" But I agree, when you get way older it doesn't matter as much.
What always baffles me is when these guys have daughters. You know they would NOT be okay with their kids getting cozy with any old creep. But somehow they seem to think the same rule does not apply to them. Talk about lack of self-awareness
I actually think they would not care because they don't care about their daughters that deeply, or women in general. Seen it myself, have been on the receiving end of that too.
That and its rhat lack of self control. A lot of the older creepers in Hollywood or NYC scene or hell hook-up sites/app. Especially the miserable-divorce ones…want some do-over of their youth. They want to date young people so they feel young not old virile not exiled in a sense. If youre into older guys, gals, okay I gues but ffs wait until 25+ if not 30 so its not as likely youre going to be some creepers trophy spouse nothing else or you hit 25-30 and realize you done fucked up
DON'T TOUCH THE CHILDREN And we need to tell teenagers why it's inappropriate when adults/old people are trying to have a relationship with them or flirt with them. Kids don't know that they are being used/manipulated.
Exactly! The issue isn’t that a 50-something guy sang a duet with a teen. I sang duets with my vocal coach in high school and there was nothing inappropriate that went on because he treated me as a student and not a peer. The issue here is that he sought her out and instigated an inappropriate relationship with her. Had it been about the music, he would’ve sought out women closer to his own age to collaborate with. I bet there are plenty of 35+ women on TikTok who he could’ve worked with.
@@CModelli99 Vocal range does change as women age... he just wanted to hear her hit that high note 🫨🤔 Oh, I'm goin to hell👹😅 Point being, we all have to learn our own lessons in life, on our own terms- and hopefully survive that relatively unscathed.
Especially because it always starts as something more "innocent" ("Oh don't worry we're just friends haha"). It's gross and teens don't always grasp how absolutely weird and predatory that is
I was groomed by a high school teacher when I was 17 . He used music and guitar as a friendship ploy and it ended with him sending sexual texts and trying to get with me. At the time I didn't realize how creepy this 44 yr old was being but now I'm like, grossed the hell out
Ughh, I had a math teacher, who was oddly fixated on my looks, he had to comment on it in every other class. Could've taken it as a compliment if it wasn't that frequent and if there wasn't also taunting about how looks won't take me far. The rest of the class found it funny so it was difficult to talk about it with them. Just made me uncomfortable to attend his classes :/
The creepiest thing about some men is the ones who exclusively date barely legal women. You just know if it were legal to date a 16 year-old, they'd be all over it.
Where I live this the legal age is 15 (way too low) and all the creepy pedophikes always say I throught she was 15 or she said she was 15, like a 15 year old and 40 year old isn't super creepy and inappropriate no matter how legal is and it's possible for an older creep to groom an inexperienced 18 or 19 year old too, even if those cases I of course don't think the creep is a pedophile, they just want a younger person because they are easier to manipulate, control and abuse.
THIS!! Thank you! I go into red pill comment sections to tell guys it’s creepy. They all believe the guys, old guys, in dating podcasts how it’s what their preference is. 18-22 year olds and I’m like eww they’re over 28+ up to around 50 and love to say it’s normal for them to go for that age range of 18-22 year old girls. They love to use the “logic” bc that’s a girls prime 🙄 and child bearing years yeah whatever. They wouldn’t say 17 or under because it’s illegal but many say they like 18 year olds and it’s normal 🤮 same as girls like older men bc old men are in their prime. Ewww no. Maybe sometimes financially but NOT physically. Men get old and their bodies work out. No stamina. physical signs of aging. Nothing bad with it but they push weird ideologies to be able to get away with being old and with 18 year olds 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 Edit and their bodies worn out* not work out.
ALSO, it's soooo pitiful how many men seem to fear dating a grown woman BECAUSE she is her own established person who can set boundaries and knows who she is. They really tell on themselves when they only want those who are barely legal who they can mould and manipulate, yuck!🤮
I think back to when I was 19 and remember being very flattered the 46 year old lead at my job was interested in me 😂🤢 I’m 26 now and I thank God it didn’t ever turn physical. Young girls, please don’t fall for it, the thought of them will turn your stomach in 5 years I promise
Honestly, this video has healed my soul a little bit. When I was 19 a married man in his 50s was hitting on me and I really liked it. It was all online, so nothing physical, but his wife would have def seen it as cheating. I've been blaming myself for a long time. Feeling like a terrible person. This video helped me realize that what happened wasn't on me.
@Anonymous-io9vp Some people haven't been brought up in an environment where they're taught about predators, or have only been taught about the "free candy in the van" type of predators, so these kinds of interactions can seem harmless even though they clearly aren't
@@Anonymous-io9vpit typically depends on the person tbh. Some girls will have their alarm bells go off, some may be too trusting or like the attention- not realizing that they’re going in way too deep. It takes a few years to gain that wisdom.
It triggers me so much. When I was 19 a teacher became obsessed with me. I never gave him any hope or special attention as a man. I told him I had no interest at all (respectfully on his face) and even liked another man, but he simply couldn't accept it. It was very hard for me because I liked him, our class and his teachings very much, I saw him as a kind of "father figure" and cared about his opinion and getting his approval. He used my trust and admiration agains me, chased me like crazy with manipulative behavior. When he saw he would never have me, this man tried to destroy me and my social life! It was a hell. I can't tell the details in here, but that was by far the most traumatizing event of my life. It changed me forever, I've never recovered completely of that experience. Years later he came to my house crying and asking for forgiveness, but I simply could not forgive him, I can't look at his face till nowadays, even in pics! Then he started to msg me on my birthday every year! Very disturbing behavior! I had to block him! Enfim... I hate this kind of predatory man.
@@kenlyl1523 No, I didn't. I got silent and for many years I couldn't even say his name out loud. I felt like blocked. It was many years ago and I blamed myself so much... it took me 10 years to talk about it openly, I just wanted to forget it and let it go, but deep inside I couldn't... but now I'm much better. Thank you!
You know what I think when I hear these types of stories? That they got into these professions to be close to young people. You probably aren't his only victim, I'd bet money he's terrorizing some poor 16 year old girl right now.
Cutting off all contact with someone over "nothing, no big deal, nothing happened" is MORE sus, not less. Especially when they're your "bestie". This is so weird so weird so weird. The problem isn't old guys. I'm an old guy. The problem is predator ass fuckers doing it live right infront of our eyes.
The sooner you learn that much older men showing interest in you as a young woman is not a compliment, it’s dangerous, the better. I remember thinking that when I was younger because we do learn that somewhere along the way. Those men are creeps, period. It’s not that you have an old soul, or are mature for your age, or it’s true love, or you’re so interesting they want to get to know you better, or whatever else they say. They just want you to let your guard down. And it’s not your fault if you do, just don’t think for a second that it’s innocent when a much older man shows interest in you. They’re a threat, perceive them as such.
Men being sexually attracted to any female is not a compliment to be honest because of the weird way male sexuality has been allowed to flourish over time.🤢
@@jj-gk6rj That literally doesn't make any sense, you're just making a sweeping generalisation about all men. If any man said what you said, they'd be called misogynist and rightfully so, just admit you're a misandrist. Because Halsey literally said she wanted to lick Evan Peters' body before they even dated or met, which is disgusting as fuck.
I had a friend in high school when we were like 15 or maybe even 16 he was dating a twenty-six-year-old 🙄🙄🙄 AND HER MOM KNEW. And it was wack, she nicknames him "Grandpa so and so" 🙄 like she was making light of her own predator boyfriend. I also had a girlfriend date another girl, same age differences. We were 15, 16, the older lesbian was 24, 25....we even made a joke about how our new teacher was the SAME AGE as her GF 🤢🙄 we were sooooo naive, and I don't understand how their parents didn't call the cops.
@@halroxdynasty8683smart mom. Banning him makes her daughter sneak around with him. This way she can keep tabs on it and fight any grooming that happens because it's all in the open.
Social media has broken down a lot of social barriers that once would've made it extremely unusual for all ages to interact casually on a regular basis.
Fortunately, it seems that people are now starting to collectively realise how inappropriate so much of it is. Hence the Colleen Ballinger scandal and now this backlash.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9lI think it is important that people remember that there are major differences between age groups. At the end of the day it has always been weird to me when an adult wants to hang out with a child/teen when that young person is not family or someone they are a mentor/educator of and even then there are clear boundaries. It's also weird to me because being a kid is hard, personally I much prefer being an adult and again think it's very weird when adults are all "hello, fellow children"🤔🤢
@@Indigazure It's not that friendships between ages are inherently inappropriate, but the total lack of typical social mores and boundaries online that would naturally exist in the real world. For example: kind elderly neighbor befriends boy next door and they garden together. That's a social context of someone known to the parents and family interacting with someone younger in a natural way and doing a wholesome activity. Online: random older person starts chatting with little kid with no specific context other than maybe a shared interest like a video game. EDIT: fixed autocorrect to say "younger."
Right, there is actually nothing creepy about this at all. Everyone here is projecting their own bad experiences onto Roger. He should sue someone for starting this discourse honestly. There is no evidence at all he did anything wrong. He may actually view younger girls like daughters. Sad that no one is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because they WANT him to be a creep. This is the real entertainment now, judging people we don't know based on not enough information.
You stood up to abusers. We need more people like you. It's better to have people on your side soon after the abuse happened. It's better than suffering in silence and creating some horrible coping mechanisms
It's not just about the victim in that instance. Reporting on offenders is also about preventing reoffense. Ya know preventing other vulnerable people from becoming victims.
So basically, his audience are a bunch of teenage girls with daddy issues….. I can definitely see where this is going, and I’m terrified! Michelle hold my hand I'm scared.
@@minionsarebae2434tbf they are calling a grown man "daddy" and "king". Now, I'm not gonna chalk that up to daddy issues but I think it definitely speaks to how much inappropriate weirdness kids are being exposed to now thanks to the internet.🤢
We keep on telling the young girls not to do this, but the whole point of being a 19yo is that they don't know any better. IT'S THE JOB OF THE 56YO TO KNOW BETTER.
@@josiahallenswife6899I don't think 19 yr olds are idiots but as a 28yr old woman I do know that as women and girls we are always expected to be nice and give the benefit of the doubt and that's where these creeps can find a way to start a dialogue unfortunately.😒
This happened to me when UA-cam was new when I was sixteen; there will always be older men with ulterior motives looking for vulnerable teenage children to prey upon. It’s a great thing my mom was extremely vigilant and very diplomatic when telling me it was actually okay and acceptable not to ‘ be nice’ to everyone! It saved me from a very terrible situation! Parents, please be vigilant and gentle with your kids when it comes to monitoring their online activities !
Dude! This!! When we're nice to everyone, some creeps get the wrong idea & it puts us in scary positions. I'm friendly & nice to everyone & some men get fucking straight up WEEEEEIRD
True, a lot of men mistake a woman's kindness as "flirting" when we're not. It's very scary especially when they react as if they're being insulted/rejected. @@venomg5799
And as we learned from Colleen and her Ukelele, there will also be grown ass adult women with ulterior motives looking for vulnerable teenage children to prey upon as well. Teenagers should be wary of all adults online, not just older men.
@@venomg5799Sadly, this is why a lot of women like me have 'RBF' I don't smile and am not too nice, not because I'm a horrible person but because unfortunately, too many men think that a woman/girl just being a nice person means she's interested in him.🙄 IT DOES NOT.😑
I once had an older man as a substitute bus driver (maybe in his late 50s) when I was in elementary school. He was a substitute a few times and I noticed he always smiled at all the girls when he dropped them off at their houses. At first, I thought he was just being nice. Then one time I was one of the last to get off the bus and I asked him if he remembered where I lived so he wouldn't drive by my house - and he said, "I'd never forget where you live sweetheart." And then he smiled that same smile I once thought was him being kind and suddenly it looked scary to me. It was super creepy. I remember awkwardly standing there and really hoping he'd let me off that bus. When he did, I ran home.
I really fear for this younger generation. I know a lot of us older folk complain about Tik Tok and how annoying it can be but we need to be a lot more diligent when it comes to these social media platforms that cater to children. These creeps are becoming more brazen by the minute
My issue though is that while yes I agree, we need to keep children safe, letting those predators on social media, is a pretty good way to expose them.
@@rachelforshee6014 That is true. I’m also front end, doing a website for a company atm. Lucky coincidence. - Have you read c# as well? I took a share point course for bigger companies, currently working for a smaller company.
The comment about when you were 16 at the gym and men pushing the limits about what they can say….. soooo true. I remember being 16 and grown men making little flirty comments and I knew they were flirting but trying to not get in trouble. So inappropriate!
That's what's so sick and fcked up about it. They know they can get away with it because that young girl is probably terrified/confused and will not know how to handle the situation. GROSS!🤢
As a young adult with daddy issues, I looked to older men as father figures and tried to befriend a few. I quickly learned that older men are not interested in being father figures to younger women and because of my bad experiences, older men showing any sort of interest creeps me out completely.
I have daddy issues and get fucking creeps messaging me like asking when's the first time I ever touched myself, had one dude want to do role play then when I said I wanted to be 18 he said "why not younger." Also a guy I used to talk to openingly told me he used to fuck a 16 yo girl with the mum's permission mind you he was 50 something when I was talking to him.
No. The shorter format makes a difference (dopamine stim), and what trends on tik tok is different than other platforms, plus more ... impressionable people prefer tiktok. That's why it's used so much for marketing. Re:marketing, It's what Twitter used to be but on steroids because of the video format. Twitter was for grown-ups (uses text), and tiktok was for kids (uses video).
@@TischTosh so they should also get rid of Facebook reels and Instagram. All the social media platforms, including this one have short form video options. The issue isn’t the platform, the issue is that creepy people are going to be creepy. UA-cam has had more than its fair share of creepers. And if, for arguments sake, they banned TikTok, another platform would just spring up to take its place. Perhaps the better option would be to eliminate the ability to dm with users.
Especially these days, girls should be taught what kind of behaviour to watch out for. I wish it were taught in school-- how to spot grooming and inappropriate conduct. So many young women go through such horrible experiences because these predators flatter and promise and talk their way into what they want.
DON'T TOUCH THE CHILDREN! I know somone that was SA by a family member and when the parents found out they tried to cover it up for over 25 years. She thought she was crazy until her brain started remember things. Please protect the kids!
Why is it wrong? She is an adult. She can work, live on her own, date who she wants, get married. Why is it wrong? Its not pedophilia because she is an adult
F no I’m not mad! I wish I had someone speaking out for me when I was a teenager. I remember being 13/14 years old when I started growing curves, all the creeps came out of the woodwork. And instead, I was told, “oh you probably wanted that attention don’t act like you don’t like it” or “well why would you lead them on” when I was just being a kid?! 🤷🏼♀️
Victim blaming culture is so real and SO weird to me. Do young, impressionable people want instant gratification and attention? Sure. Sometimes. (Hell. Grown folk crave it just as much at times) Do they sometimes make poor decisions to get it? Absolutely. Are some actually quite astute and manipulate situations to their advantage? Sure. Some. but - Christ!!! He's practically old enough to be her GRANDFATHER. The way people will mental gymnast double tuck to protect creepy older men and try to keep young women "in their place" and drown them in insecurity and expectations is WILD to me. . .😒
I saw a post on Reddit about how gross it is that we need to make laws to stop adults from marrying children. The amount of time he went on about how it's not illegal, he would def go lower in age if he could.
When I was a teen and creepy men would creep like in the gym or wherever, I would just yell "MOM!" at the top of my lungs. I wonder what the equivalent would be on tiktok but I hope there is one
I recall two disgusting old men messaging me. Saying how lovely I looked and then came the creepy "I would like to send you money," although they never mentioned the purpose of it. It was disturbing, and I would block them right away. DO NOT TOUCH THE CHILDREN.
I don't feel comfortable with people her age, and I'm 25. I'm in an art Discord server and a lot of the people are younger than me and when I interact with people that are are younger than like 22, I feel like I need to be setting an example... not forming a relationship with them.
In all the years I have been on the internet (since it went nationwide) there has always been creepers. A/S/L was how they would cozy up to you. And they were forever private message not just young girls but boys as well. At least in recent years there has been a bigger push to hold people accountable
Yes! My naive self was chatting away and one day it was to a "police officer" who just wanted to chat with a 15 yo girl. My happened to ask about who it was and once I told him my mom needs to say Hi it was "poof" just total vanishing. Now of course I get it but I was so clueless, fortunate it didn't get very far.
I flip flop between "The internet was a mistake" and "The internet is the greatest thing to happen to mankind" at the speed of light every day. These things make me need to take a shower
TW: I’m so glad you’re one of the people that tells. I didn’t tell when my 15 y/o friend was sleeping with a grown man and he was taking advantage of her, because she begged me not to and I didn’t want to hurt her. Now I really wish I did.
So I was 30 when an older (50s) neighbor wanted to take me on a date. Now the wisdom in being older than 19 is that when he started giving me a creepy/controlling vibe before our first date, I blocked him because F* That. This girl didn't need this. It's not her fault, she didn't have the wisdom. Ladies, it is never your fault if you don't know yet. I recommend simply if you are unsure what to do, get an older and wiser woman you trust to read the messages and discuss a safe exit strategy. You are still nice if you have strong boundaries. Also, being a bitch in the right direction and situation is empowering. Feel free to practice saying a firm no from an early age.❤
Old women can also be creepy as hell had family friend that would take care of me and my sisters as a kid and when I was 19 she was drunk at a family get together and grabbed me and tried kissing me out of nowhere. Also had a few friends that were groomed by other friends mothers and sleeping with them at 16.
The way roger speaks to her reminds me of how my ex 10 years my senior used to talk to me every time i tried to draw boundaries... his mother was in on it and both gaslit me. Take it from me, an older guy thats interested in you KNOWS whats going on and how wrong it is yet still proceeds.
I had a bit of a weird feeling about him when he followed me when I was freshly 18. I went through his following and a lot of it was other girls my age. Side note: I asked him for a short cover during a live and he requested $40 for a cover 😅 I don’t think the price equates his level of talent
I was v bubbly, up beat and chatty as a teen and college student and i CANNOT tell you how many OLD MEN i had to stop from physically grabbing me or trying to touch/kiss me. I used to blame myself because I thought maybe they got mixed signals, but now that I’m in my late 30s I know better and they should’ve too!!
Had a few old guys try to manipulate me when i was 16/17. At the time I thought I was just enjoying the attention. Now.. it feels gross. Glad I was smart enough to nope out before they got anything out of me. Shudder.
Ewww this reminds me of a narcissist I dated a few years ago; he was 50 & I was 25. It was such a power struggle because he had money and I was in a rough spot in life. I feel so bad for these young women in these predicaments. Unfortunately, it is nearly impossible to avoid creeps in general but especially on TikTok/social media!
I was hit on and had more attention from old men circa 11 - 17. It was eeally weird and at the time, i didnt understand or interpret it in any way. Looking back, there were so many pedophiles cat calling me and trying to talk to me.
It's very sad that 99% of girls go trough that as teens. Me and two of my friends, around 16 yo at the time, where chased by creepy neighbor and his friends, who was in their forties. We were flattered at first by the attention, but then it started to get very uncomfortable and I left the friend group. These men are everywhere, just waiting for young and naive teens to pray on, disgusting!
I'm very much loving this current era of seedy and predatory social media influencers getting very publicly outed for their inappropriate conduct. The hotel interaction was bad enough, but those DMs still felt like whiplash to hear. His messages are so abusive and coercive. And he has the audacity to call _her_ "controlling?"
I'm 42 and don't have any teenage friends. My daughter is 20 and I would never hang out with anyone in her age range. I wouldn't date a woman below 36. Alot of men like younger women for what reasons they deem necessary. I hear why they say they like younger women and it's not for me.
Ladies, please have a healthy skepticism and even a little paranoia of situations like this. If something feels weird, it probably is. I wish that I had that advice when I was 14 (he was 21) & 16 (he was 26). It took around 15 years before I realized what actually happened.
I agree, it's one thing to call someone beautiful, but it's another thing to be creepy about it, like if he was just complementing them every once in awhile, I don't think anyone would bat an eye, but unfortunately that's not what he's doing. I can't believe it's hard for people, to not be creepy to other people, especially children.
TBH I think people need to stop commenting on kids appearance's at this point especially young girls. Unless you are a parent/guardian and the concern is related to their health or safety, stop commenting on kids, it is really fcking weird and can cause all kinds of damage to them!
@@jj-gk6rj I don't think just complimenting a kid's appearance is going to damage them, if they went further than just complimenting then yeah I can understand, but simply complimenting the appearance of a kid, is not necessarily a bad thing.
There was a situation that happened to me in early 2016. By no means was it the worst thing to happen to someone, but I just thought of it because you mentioned how these men start small and then try a little more each time. I worked at a Carmax dealership with a man who was 50 at the time; I was 30. So no comparison to this story in regards to age, as I was not in my teens and had been married for around five years at that point. However, this man was known to tell inappropriate jokes, talk openly about sexual topics with the team, and disrespect female managers. He even just looked like the typical creepy 50-year-old: White New Balance sneakers, balding, glasses. But aside from the looks, it was his demeanor and words I found unnerving. One day, I was at the front desk waiting for the next customer. He was nearby, talking openly on the sales floor about how he and his wife were planning on going to a strip club that night. I was doing this uneasy chuckle thing I do when someone’s being cringe. He walked up close to me and whispered in my ear, “I could see you being the stripper in that club.” Because I was at the front, I was just like, “Ok…ha ha.” 😬 I kept on with work and stuffed my emotions, but when I got home, I was in a terrible mood and had a bit of a meltdown at my husband over something minor. It was then that I realized what was bothering me, so I told my husband what happened. Of course, he insisted I tell my manager the next day. I actually wrestled with it and even asked a few coworkers (some told me to let it go), but I realized that this man was going on test drives alone with young women. It wasn’t just about protecting myself at that point. Later that morning, I met with my manager and told him about the comment. I was genuinely thinking they’d just give him a slap on the wrist. However, they actually fired him. 😳Management said that my situation was simply the last straw; they’d already seen and heard enough. The creep took to Facebook and text messaging, telling people I invited his comment and was just out to get him. (I wasn’t Facebook friends with him, but others were telling me, and we had mutual friends, so I could see comments he left on their posts.) I was the #1 salesperson in the store at that time, so of course, jealous women and even a guy or two latched onto the gossip and saw it as a way to ostracize and undermine me. One girl even went so far as to start other false rumors about me. There was another person who’d gotten fired, which I didn’t even know about right away. But she told him I was somehow behind it. 😢 There was a mature group of people who had my back. One woman in particular said the creep has approached her for nudes, but she didn’t report him because she didn’t want to go though what I was then undergoing. 🤦🏻♀️ In short, I was living in a big city at the time, so I just decided to go work for another dealership. The next place was great, though we moved to another city later that year. I’ve been out of the car business since 2018. The creep went on to become a truck driver. 🤣
You were so 100000% right to confront/tell on those abusers in the moment. I'm sure the victims were upset at the time but you're so correct about it being so much harder to prove later on. You're the hero we need, and Roger is a creep!
I see grown ass men above the age of 40 commenting on little girls photos as young as 8 but usually I see it more when they are like in the preteen age range. 12 is the most common I see
Ugh that boy ain't right! I too am a tattler! I was JUST graduated from high school (so 17) and my best friend's sister's husband hit on me when he dropped me at home. He told me not to tell after I said no thank you (I'm sure I looked uncomfortable he was like 7/8 years older than me and HAD 3 KIDS with my bestie's sister) and I said okay and IMMEDIATELY called my best friend and told her. We both laughed at why he thought I would have ANY fear or loyalties to not say anything then while on the phone we both told her sister. Afterwards my friend's sister didn't like me anymore, I guess she liked it better when the women didn't tell after turning him down. It came out that he cheated on her regularly and had a thing for younger girls
I feel bad for his wife living in that much denial and letting his creepy ways make her be envious of young girls. What a mess. Hope she leaves and hope you and your friends keep being powerful and strong! Never let these weirdos stop you from living your life!
OH MY GOD!! those texts are nothing short of INSANITY. It was totally a conversation with himself bc she never answers wtf! How cringe! How he can feel anything other than embarrassment at this video would be beyond me😅
My husband has perfect pitch. I had him watch the clips of Roger singing and he hasn't stopped laughing. He said with training Roger could maybe hit the notes but he has no idea how this man got so many followers other than people thought of him as a silly grandpa and thought it was cute.
One of my favorite teachers in law school use to say : "just because something is not illegal, doesn't mean isn't morally or ethically correct behavior" .
Hi, Im a gay man. I had my first intimicy with a 28 year old man. I was 15 at the time. Long story short. We where together for a few years and he broke up with me. I feel violated and I dont talk with him anymore, because I pretty sure he also cheated on me. The awfull part is, I kept on meeting men like that, because noone ever taught me better. Now Im 32 and full of hate. If you have gay children,... pls check who they are meeting. Men can feel violated like women do.
The thing is, she does not present as an adult, if i saw that girl i would think she is 15-16. Is not only the way she looks but also the way she speaks and acts. This is the kind of girl that you steal from because she would totally fall for a scam. So its not only that he is attracted to little girls, its that he preys on them.
Gross! I hate creepy old dudes! We had a guy at work that was late 40s and he would come by every day to talk to one of my coworkers who is in her early 20s. I overheard some conversations that were borderline inappropriate, like he was testing her boundaries to see what he could get away with. I and a couple of other coworkers asked our 20-something coworker if he was bothering her and she said he was fine. We finally mentioned it to our boss who talked to his boss and just ask that he not spend so much time in our office. He quit the next week.
Lol sorry for calling him boomer, he’s gen x. BUT for the people upset I called him old…HE IS, compared to a 16-19 year old. Come on y’all…you Remember being 16 and that 30 something hit on you. First thing you said was…what? Old. I’m old compared to a 16 year old and have no business commenting certain things on their profiles.
Anyone over 20 is old compared to a 16year old
I’m 25, and I’m also old.
Wouldn’t wanna date* anyone under 22 max 28.
So true
He is old, and us Gen X do NOT claim him. 😐
Boomer or Gen X it doesn't matter if they can pass as your generational offspring, leave them alone.
DON’T TOUCH THE CHILDREN💀
Cats&Kids.
DO NOT TOUCH THEM!!!
@@daintyGorilla dogs too
YEAH, Don't Touch THEM !!!
Though technically she wasn't a child lol. Ya'll make it sound like she went to see him at the age of 16.
@@RedRoseSeptember22
Didn't he ? I mean by stalking her account from when she was in high school ? I might have heard that wrong tho
I am so sorry for his daughter... discovering your “soon to retire” father is trying to date a 19 years old would be devastating for me
Yep. For me that would be a "Goodbye Dad, nice knowing ya" moment 🤢
I’d seriously go no contact with him. What an awful man
I would disown myself from him
Why grown ass men are so obssesed with teenagers?? Like i dont understand thats crazyyy
It would completely break me, thank God he's not like that.
Never go to a hotel room with anyone you don't want to get intimate with. *NEVER *
Additionally, never rule out the possibility that the person your going to the hotel with could secretly have serial killer ambitions.
For me, I won't go anywhere private with someone I don't know until I've known them IRL for awhile, and met or spoken with mutual friends/acquaintances or been introduced to some of their peeps (i ask eound on my own also). This process is known as: "vetting", and it's a natural and healthy part of building friendships and relationships.
That's just me though.
Me and mom sharing a hotel room on holiday: 🤡🤡 what the fuck
@@miunya funny story- back in the day when I had a effed up family, we were on a road trip, and got a hotel room. I woke up in the middle of the nite b/c my father was snoring so loudly. Being disoriented, and never having heard such raucous sounds in the night, I thought a bear was literally there in attack mode in the dark.
It was terrifying.
What if its a drug deal?
It makes me wonder if the girl in this video has any women looking out for her. I was always told to meet men in a public outdoor place where lots of people would be. This is good advice for females of any age.
it turned real quiet from the creepy men as soon as I stopped looking like a teenager….that’s the worst part, like they are only interested when you look young enough to take advantage of.
EXACTLY. Me too and yet we are still expected to say "not all men". It is far too many though.🤢
Yeah I got alot of attention as a teenager .. it's practically crickets now .
I don't know but as a 38 yo woman I feel more annoyed by younger dudes now. At least I can shut them 5 pretty quickly but when I was a 17 yo being harassed daily on the streets that shi was rough. But it was always a certain type of old farts I swear. Certainly not all men lol
I’ve noticed this exact thing now looking back to my time as a kid/teen and now every time i read of others experiences regarding it I get the ick all over again.
same.. i used to get catcalled a lot when i was a teenager and the amount of men trying to get my attention went down so much since then. it’s concerning
I'm a 37 year old man and when I see 18 year old girls they look like BABIES. Hell I was even talking to 23 year old and her immaturity drove me up a wall. I can't imagine what it'll be like I'm 56, probably like "35 year olds look like children to me" lol
Yes it is always super strange to me when the evident immaturity alone doesn't clearly show that this is not a person you should be seeking out!!
I'm a 37 year old woman and I agree...it actually enrages me now when I think of the age imbalances of all the old creepy dudes that hit on me as a teen 🤢
Its also the generational gap/stages of life. When you hit 25 dating a 40 year old is borderline weird to you. Less so if probably 50 dating a 65 year old.
@@tonym.8069 tbh I just dated someone 7-8 years younger, so I'm 37 and he's now 29-30, we met when I was 35. Even though he was chill and whatnot, it was still weird and I never made the relationship a huge deal or emotional investment. He's almost 30 but still mentally, it's just not the same at all. When you hit 30 a lot changes. So we broke up anyway, but it was fun for what is was...my thing is, if I was as delusional as some of these dudes I'd be trying to marry that dude and expect him to emotionally reach my level, which he can't do at this point, he's not even in his thirties. I was playing Tupac, and his ass is showing me Coi LeRay videos 🤣🤦🏻♀️ like I was like "you're a baaaaby"
But I agree, when you get way older it doesn't matter as much.
That’s the point… they would definitely go for actual children if it wasn’t a crime and looked down upon.
What always baffles me is when these guys have daughters. You know they would NOT be okay with their kids getting cozy with any old creep. But somehow they seem to think the same rule does not apply to them. Talk about lack of self-awareness
soooo true
Extra layer of weirdness indeed 🤢
I actually think they would not care because they don't care about their daughters that deeply, or women in general. Seen it myself, have been on the receiving end of that too.
@@halroxdynasty8683 I can see this being true yeah..
That and its rhat lack of self control. A lot of the older creepers in Hollywood or NYC scene or hell hook-up sites/app. Especially the miserable-divorce ones…want some do-over of their youth. They want to date young people so they feel young not old virile not exiled in a sense. If youre into older guys, gals, okay I gues but ffs wait until 25+ if not 30 so its not as likely youre going to be some creepers trophy spouse nothing else or you hit 25-30 and realize you done fucked up
DON'T TOUCH THE CHILDREN
And we need to tell teenagers why it's inappropriate when adults/old people are trying to have a relationship with them or flirt with them. Kids don't know that they are being used/manipulated.
Exactly! The issue isn’t that a 50-something guy sang a duet with a teen. I sang duets with my vocal coach in high school and there was nothing inappropriate that went on because he treated me as a student and not a peer. The issue here is that he sought her out and instigated an inappropriate relationship with her. Had it been about the music, he would’ve sought out women closer to his own age to collaborate with. I bet there are plenty of 35+ women on TikTok who he could’ve worked with.
Exactly. And for the old creeps, 18 and 19 are teenagers.
@@CModelli99 Vocal range does change as women age... he just wanted to hear her hit that high note 🫨🤔
Oh, I'm goin to hell👹😅
Point being, we all have to learn our own lessons in life, on our own terms- and hopefully survive that relatively unscathed.
Especially because it always starts as something more "innocent" ("Oh don't worry we're just friends haha"). It's gross and teens don't always grasp how absolutely weird and predatory that is
@@FuriosaSonoran LOL! Well, there’s plenty of 30+ women (myself included) who can still sing soprano, so that’s not even a halfway decent excuse!
I was groomed by a high school teacher when I was 17 . He used music and guitar as a friendship ploy and it ended with him sending sexual texts and trying to get with me. At the time I didn't realize how creepy this 44 yr old was being but now I'm like, grossed the hell out
Wow. I'm sorry that happened to you. You're right though. You're never too old to be groomed, it's horrible
🤮🤮🤮 May you heal.🙏❤️
If you have any of the texts still I’d absolutely report him to his employer.
Ughh, I had a math teacher, who was oddly fixated on my looks, he had to comment on it in every other class. Could've taken it as a compliment if it wasn't that frequent and if there wasn't also taunting about how looks won't take me far. The rest of the class found it funny so it was difficult to talk about it with them.
Just made me uncomfortable to attend his classes :/
The creepiest thing about some men is the ones who exclusively date barely legal women. You just know if it were legal to date a 16 year-old, they'd be all over it.
Exactly!! … and scary is you can’t tell which are good guys and which are creeps
Where I live this the legal age is 15 (way too low) and all the creepy pedophikes always say I throught she was 15 or she said she was 15, like a 15 year old and 40 year old isn't super creepy and inappropriate no matter how legal is and it's possible for an older creep to groom an inexperienced 18 or 19 year old too, even if those cases I of course don't think the creep is a pedophile, they just want a younger person because they are easier to manipulate, control and abuse.
Scott Disick
THIS!! Thank you! I go into red pill comment sections to tell guys it’s creepy. They all believe the guys, old guys, in dating podcasts how it’s what their preference is. 18-22 year olds and I’m like eww they’re over 28+ up to around 50 and love to say it’s normal for them to go for that age range of 18-22 year old girls. They love to use the “logic” bc that’s a girls prime 🙄 and child bearing years yeah whatever. They wouldn’t say 17 or under because it’s illegal but many say they like 18 year olds and it’s normal 🤮 same as girls like older men bc old men are in their prime. Ewww no. Maybe sometimes financially but NOT physically. Men get old and their bodies work out. No stamina. physical signs of aging. Nothing bad with it but they push weird ideologies to be able to get away with being old and with 18 year olds 🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Edit and their bodies worn out* not work out.
@@ellemmenn2930yep but somehow as women and girls we are expected to know whether he is a "nice guy" or not 🙄 Ridiculous !
ALSO, it's soooo pitiful how many men seem to fear dating a grown woman BECAUSE she is her own established person who can set boundaries and knows who she is.
They really tell on themselves when they only want those who are barely legal who they can mould and manipulate, yuck!🤮
Yeah! 🤮🤮🤮 And pathetic!
I think back to when I was 19 and remember being very flattered the 46 year old lead at my job was interested in me 😂🤢 I’m 26 now and I thank God it didn’t ever turn physical. Young girls, please don’t fall for it, the thought of them will turn your stomach in 5 years I promise
Honestly, this video has healed my soul a little bit. When I was 19 a married man in his 50s was hitting on me and I really liked it. It was all online, so nothing physical, but his wife would have def seen it as cheating. I've been blaming myself for a long time. Feeling like a terrible person. This video helped me realize that what happened wasn't on me.
I don't understand, if you're an adult teenager, then surely you'd find a 46 year old's behaviour creepy and not flattering.
Yep, if you're 18-25 and the person "into" you could be a parent age wise, they're probably a creep 😆
@Anonymous-io9vp Some people haven't been brought up in an environment where they're taught about predators, or have only been taught about the "free candy in the van" type of predators, so these kinds of interactions can seem harmless even though they clearly aren't
@@Anonymous-io9vpit typically depends on the person tbh. Some girls will have their alarm bells go off, some may be too trusting or like the attention- not realizing that they’re going in way too deep. It takes a few years to gain that wisdom.
I'm 24 years old (lesbian) I wouldn't date someone who's 19 just because there is still a enormous difference,not in age but in mindset.
It makes me sad.... I can't stand watching men take advantage of young women... it hurts me to my core.
Agreed!… or just adults taking advantage of young teenagers/kids
It triggers me so much. When I was 19 a teacher became obsessed with me. I never gave him any hope or special attention as a man. I told him I had no interest at all (respectfully on his face) and even liked another man, but he simply couldn't accept it. It was very hard for me because I liked him, our class and his teachings very much, I saw him as a kind of "father figure" and cared about his opinion and getting his approval. He used my trust and admiration agains me, chased me like crazy with manipulative behavior. When he saw he would never have me, this man tried to destroy me and my social life! It was a hell. I can't tell the details in here, but that was by far the most traumatizing event of my life. It changed me forever, I've never recovered completely of that experience. Years later he came to my house crying and asking for forgiveness, but I simply could not forgive him, I can't look at his face till nowadays, even in pics! Then he started to msg me on my birthday every year! Very disturbing behavior! I had to block him! Enfim... I hate this kind of predatory man.
Damn, what a creep, hopefully everything's alright for you now ! Did you report him or something ?
@@kenlyl1523 No, I didn't. I got silent and for many years I couldn't even say his name out loud. I felt like blocked. It was many years ago and I blamed myself so much... it took me 10 years to talk about it openly, I just wanted to forget it and let it go, but deep inside I couldn't... but now I'm much better. Thank you!
I hope you heal from this soon. That's very scary
You know what I think when I hear these types of stories? That they got into these professions to be close to young people.
You probably aren't his only victim, I'd bet money he's terrorizing some poor 16 year old girl right now.
@@Aaron-kj8dv Afterwads, I heard he had have the same behavior towards an 18 yo before me, but I've never met her. So I think you are right.
at 19 she is an adult but shit even at 26 i dont want no "teen" snuggled up to me unless im protecting a family memeber
Cutting off all contact with someone over "nothing, no big deal, nothing happened"
is MORE sus, not less. Especially when they're your "bestie".
This is so weird so weird so weird.
The problem isn't old guys. I'm an old guy. The problem is predator ass fuckers doing it live right infront of our eyes.
The sooner you learn that much older men showing interest in you as a young woman is not a compliment, it’s dangerous, the better. I remember thinking that when I was younger because we do learn that somewhere along the way. Those men are creeps, period. It’s not that you have an old soul, or are mature for your age, or it’s true love, or you’re so interesting they want to get to know you better, or whatever else they say. They just want you to let your guard down. And it’s not your fault if you do, just don’t think for a second that it’s innocent when a much older man shows interest in you. They’re a threat, perceive them as such.
Men being sexually attracted to any female is not a compliment to be honest because of the weird way male sexuality has been allowed to flourish over time.🤢
They are perverts
@@jj-gk6rj That literally doesn't make any sense, you're just making a sweeping generalisation about all men. If any man said what you said, they'd be called misogynist and rightfully so, just admit you're a misandrist.
Because Halsey literally said she wanted to lick Evan Peters' body before they even dated or met, which is disgusting as fuck.
I had a friend in high school when we were like 15 or maybe even 16 he was dating a twenty-six-year-old 🙄🙄🙄 AND HER MOM KNEW. And it was wack, she nicknames him "Grandpa so and so" 🙄 like she was making light of her own predator boyfriend.
I also had a girlfriend date another girl, same age differences. We were 15, 16, the older lesbian was 24, 25....we even made a joke about how our new teacher was the SAME AGE as her GF 🤢🙄 we were sooooo naive, and I don't understand how their parents didn't call the cops.
@@halroxdynasty8683smart mom. Banning him makes her daughter sneak around with him. This way she can keep tabs on it and fight any grooming that happens because it's all in the open.
Social media has broken down a lot of social barriers that once would've made it extremely unusual for all ages to interact casually on a regular basis.
Fortunately, it seems that people are now starting to collectively realise how inappropriate so much of it is. Hence the Colleen Ballinger scandal and now this backlash.
@@user-mv5zt8qd9lI think it is important that people remember that there are major differences between age groups.
At the end of the day it has always been weird to me when an adult wants to hang out with a child/teen when that young person is not family or someone they are a mentor/educator of and even then there are clear boundaries.
It's also weird to me because being a kid is hard, personally I much prefer being an adult and again think it's very weird when adults are all "hello, fellow children"🤔🤢
What's so wrong with that? As long as it's non sexual, why do people of different ages interacting bother you?
@@Indigazure It's not that friendships between ages are inherently inappropriate, but the total lack of typical social mores and boundaries online that would naturally exist in the real world. For example: kind elderly neighbor befriends boy next door and they garden together. That's a social context of someone known to the parents and family interacting with someone younger in a natural way and doing a wholesome activity. Online: random older person starts chatting with little kid with no specific context other than maybe a shared interest like a video game. EDIT: fixed autocorrect to say "younger."
Right, there is actually nothing creepy about this at all. Everyone here is projecting their own bad experiences onto Roger. He should sue someone for starting this discourse honestly. There is no evidence at all he did anything wrong. He may actually view younger girls like daughters. Sad that no one is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because they WANT him to be a creep. This is the real entertainment now, judging people we don't know based on not enough information.
You stood up to abusers. We need more people like you. It's better to have people on your side soon after the abuse happened. It's better than suffering in silence and creating some horrible coping mechanisms
So true such an underrated comment.
It's not just about the victim in that instance. Reporting on offenders is also about preventing reoffense. Ya know preventing other vulnerable people from becoming victims.
He hasn't actually done anything. He is not a sex offender. He is just, in fact, and old man making videos for young people.
@@LadyVandMrT I was responding to Michelle's story about reporting on someone.
@@UncleMikeDrop ohh my b
@@LadyVandMrT You're good.👍
So basically, his audience are a bunch of teenage girls with daddy issues….. I can definitely see where this is going, and I’m terrified! Michelle hold my hand I'm scared.
How do you know they have daddy issues?
@@minionsarebae2434 takes one to know one, that’s how!
@@minionsarebae2434 they all have daddy issues
@@minionsarebae2434tbf they are calling a grown man "daddy" and "king". Now, I'm not gonna chalk that up to daddy issues but I think it definitely speaks to how much inappropriate weirdness kids are being exposed to now thanks to the internet.🤢
But girls wanna take no fault in these situations being inappropriate not defending the dude cause he sounds weird af
We keep on telling the young girls not to do this, but the whole point of being a 19yo is that they don't know any better. IT'S THE JOB OF THE 56YO TO KNOW BETTER.
They DO know better and thats what makes it even creepier. They target those that they think, dont know any better.
He does know better. That's exactly what makes him a predator
I'm 19 and I think this guy is a creep. Most of us aren't idiots.
@@josiahallenswife6899I don't think 19 yr olds are idiots but as a 28yr old woman I do know that as women and girls we are always expected to be nice and give the benefit of the doubt and that's where these creeps can find a way to start a dialogue unfortunately.😒
I feel SO VINDICATED I always got HORRIBLE vibes from this guy. 💀
I agree! Never really liked him!
This happened to me when UA-cam was new when I was sixteen; there will always be older men with ulterior motives looking for vulnerable teenage children to prey upon. It’s a great thing my mom was extremely vigilant and very diplomatic when telling me it was actually okay and acceptable not to ‘ be nice’ to everyone! It saved me from a very terrible situation! Parents, please be vigilant and gentle with your kids when it comes to monitoring their online activities !
Dude! This!! When we're nice to everyone, some creeps get the wrong idea & it puts us in scary positions. I'm friendly & nice to everyone & some men get fucking straight up WEEEEEIRD
True, a lot of men mistake a woman's kindness as "flirting" when we're not. It's very scary especially when they react as if they're being insulted/rejected. @@venomg5799
And as we learned from Colleen and her Ukelele, there will also be grown ass adult women with ulterior motives looking for vulnerable teenage children to prey upon as well. Teenagers should be wary of all adults online, not just older men.
@@venomg5799Sadly, this is why a lot of women like me have 'RBF' I don't smile and am not too nice, not because I'm a horrible person but because unfortunately, too many men think that a woman/girl just being a nice person means she's interested in him.🙄
IT DOES NOT.😑
@@starlette7820yep. Unfortunately there are women out there who will assist predatory men in 'getting' young girls/children as well. Yuck.
I once had an older man as a substitute bus driver (maybe in his late 50s) when I was in elementary school. He was a substitute a few times and I noticed he always smiled at all the girls when he dropped them off at their houses. At first, I thought he was just being nice. Then one time I was one of the last to get off the bus and I asked him if he remembered where I lived so he wouldn't drive by my house - and he said, "I'd never forget where you live sweetheart." And then he smiled that same smile I once thought was him being kind and suddenly it looked scary to me. It was super creepy. I remember awkwardly standing there and really hoping he'd let me off that bus. When he did, I ran home.
I really fear for this younger generation. I know a lot of us older folk complain about Tik Tok and how annoying it can be but we need to be a lot more diligent when it comes to these social media platforms that cater to children. These creeps are becoming more brazen by the minute
@@rachelforshee6014
I agree, but they’ll be ostracized for not using social media.
Unless you live in an Amish society.
My issue though is that while yes I agree, we need to keep children safe, letting those predators on social media, is a pretty good way to expose them.
@@rachelforshee6014
That is not how tech trend will go.
Best wishes from a programmer and IT person.
Have a good day/evening.
@@rachelforshee6014
That is true.
I’m also front end, doing a website for a company atm.
Lucky coincidence.
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Have you read c# as well? I took a share point course for bigger companies, currently working for a smaller company.
@@rachelforshee6014babe thats called helicopter parenting. People learn about the world through social media.
The comment about when you were 16 at the gym and men pushing the limits about what they can say….. soooo true. I remember being 16 and grown men making little flirty comments and I knew they were flirting but trying to not get in trouble. So inappropriate!
That's what's so sick and fcked up about it. They know they can get away with it because that young girl is probably terrified/confused and will not know how to handle the situation. GROSS!🤢
Yeah,I had to stop going to one gym in high school because it was.. very, very uncomfortable how touchy adult men felt comfortable being.
Everytime Michelle posts, I gain HP.
Heart Palpitations?
@@The_Salty_Siren Health Points, as in video game ones, but sure, that too 😭
Me...? I level up....🤣........😐.........
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Noice.🤌💖🎮
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The moderator deserves forever happiness for what they did.
Michelle is my favorite culture commenter because she holds everyone to the same standards ❤️
Fr!!! She always has the best opinions
24:12 men DO have a lot of nerve, telling women we talk too much when they love the sound of their own voice so much 😂😂
56 and 16 seems weird. I'm 45 and struggle with hanging out my adult child and their freinds. Couldn't imagine them being teens. Gross
As a young adult with daddy issues, I looked to older men as father figures and tried to befriend a few. I quickly learned that older men are not interested in being father figures to younger women and because of my bad experiences, older men showing any sort of interest creeps me out completely.
I have daddy issues and get fucking creeps messaging me like asking when's the first time I ever touched myself, had one dude want to do role play then when I said I wanted to be 18 he said "why not younger." Also a guy I used to talk to openingly told me he used to fuck a 16 yo girl with the mum's permission mind you he was 50 something when I was talking to him.
Honestly I sometimes think that tiktok should be banned (DON’T TOUCH THE CHILDREN)
It’s no different than any other social media platform.
very unique original thought
@@Vivi_LaRue true lmao
No. The shorter format makes a difference (dopamine stim), and what trends on tik tok is different than other platforms, plus more ... impressionable people prefer tiktok. That's why it's used so much for marketing. Re:marketing, It's what Twitter used to be but on steroids because of the video format. Twitter was for grown-ups (uses text), and tiktok was for kids (uses video).
@@TischTosh so they should also get rid of Facebook reels and Instagram. All the social media platforms, including this one have short form video options. The issue isn’t the platform, the issue is that creepy people are going to be creepy. UA-cam has had more than its fair share of creepers. And if, for arguments sake, they banned TikTok, another platform would just spring up to take its place. Perhaps the better option would be to eliminate the ability to dm with users.
Groomers will follow kids until they're "legal". I've had it happen to me. Shits terrifying.
How do you "groom" someone you've never contacted?
Idk im 30 and 19 year olds already feel like children to me this is very very odd
Especially these days, girls should be taught what kind of behaviour to watch out for. I wish it were taught in school-- how to spot grooming and inappropriate conduct. So many young women go through such horrible experiences because these predators flatter and promise and talk their way into what they want.
Young girls call men king, and daddy is what Ronnie Radke said best "fatherless behavior"
🤣
DON'T TOUCH THE CHILDREN!
I know somone that was SA by a family member and when the parents found out they tried to cover it up for over 25 years. She thought she was crazy until her brain started remember things.
Please protect the kids!
I'll never understand the people that think just because something is not illegal that means it's ok.
16 is legal in Nevada
EXACTLY. Some people are just amoral creeps and ya should be able to call out a creep!!
@thebigo3752 And my comment is free. Read it again.
@@thebigo3752ew
Why is it wrong? She is an adult. She can work, live on her own, date who she wants, get married. Why is it wrong? Its not pedophilia because she is an adult
OMG, he acts like he’s been dating her for years. What a creep! He’s obsessed with her.
F no I’m not mad! I wish I had someone speaking out for me when I was a teenager. I remember being 13/14 years old when I started growing curves, all the creeps came out of the woodwork. And instead, I was told, “oh you probably wanted that attention don’t act like you don’t like it” or “well why would you lead them on” when I was just being a kid?! 🤷🏼♀️
Punished for existing in a female body.🤮 It's so gross. Girls are not allowed to be kids and I'm sick of it.
Victim blaming culture is so real and SO weird to me.
Do young, impressionable people want instant gratification and attention? Sure. Sometimes. (Hell. Grown folk crave it just as much at times)
Do they sometimes make poor decisions to get it? Absolutely.
Are some actually quite astute and manipulate situations to their advantage? Sure. Some. but - Christ!!! He's practically old enough to be her GRANDFATHER. The way people will mental gymnast double tuck to protect creepy older men and try to keep young women "in their place" and drown them in insecurity and expectations is WILD to me. . .😒
I'm 31 and I don't even feel comfortable talking to anyone below 27. 🤣😅
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I saw a post on Reddit about how gross it is that we need to make laws to stop adults from marrying children. The amount of time he went on about how it's not illegal, he would def go lower in age if he could.
Abandoned him?!?! 😂
So embaressing. Imagine feeling abandoned after just 1 meet up. So creepy
I got catcalled on my 13th birthday by a group of men outside a pub. Super gross
god, this got worse the longer I watched, he's disgusting. thank you for bringing this to light, Michelle
When I was a teen and creepy men would creep like in the gym or wherever, I would just yell "MOM!" at the top of my lungs. I wonder what the equivalent would be on tiktok but I hope there is one
I recall two disgusting old men messaging me. Saying how lovely I looked and then came the creepy "I would like to send you money," although they never mentioned the purpose of it. It was disturbing, and I would block them right away. DO NOT TOUCH THE CHILDREN.
It's men like this, and other predatory men that make other woman doubt actual good men with their kids or grandkids or any child care
I'm so glad that you tell on people when you have the evidence tbh
I’m 24 and I don’t want a 19 year old that close to me😭💀
I don't feel comfortable with people her age, and I'm 25. I'm in an art Discord server and a lot of the people are younger than me and when I interact with people that are are younger than like 22, I feel like I need to be setting an example... not forming a relationship with them.
Yo can I join
You're so strong Michelle. I don't think I could have told as a teenager seeing something like SA 😢. Way to go!
In all the years I have been on the internet (since it went nationwide) there has always been creepers. A/S/L was how they would cozy up to you. And they were forever private message not just young girls but boys as well. At least in recent years there has been a bigger push to hold people accountable
Yes! My naive self was chatting away and one day it was to a "police officer" who just wanted to chat with a 15 yo girl. My happened to ask about who it was and once I told him my mom needs to say Hi it was "poof" just total vanishing. Now of course I get it but I was so clueless, fortunate it didn't get very far.
I flip flop between "The internet was a mistake" and "The internet is the greatest thing to happen to mankind" at the speed of light every day.
These things make me need to take a shower
TW: I’m so glad you’re one of the people that tells. I didn’t tell when my 15 y/o friend was sleeping with a grown man and he was taking advantage of her, because she begged me not to and I didn’t want to hurt her. Now I really wish I did.
Everybody knows not to touch the children. It's just that these evil creeps DGAF
The fact that he is Gen X and technically I'm also Gen X (on the cusp), I'm utterly horrified. I don't want anything to do with creeps!
I'm also a baby Gen X (born in 1978) 😢
The fact that he sang that song about liking little girls is a dead giveaway
So I was 30 when an older (50s) neighbor wanted to take me on a date. Now the wisdom in being older than 19 is that when he started giving me a creepy/controlling vibe before our first date, I blocked him because F* That. This girl didn't need this. It's not her fault, she didn't have the wisdom. Ladies, it is never your fault if you don't know yet. I recommend simply if you are unsure what to do, get an older and wiser woman you trust to read the messages and discuss a safe exit strategy. You are still nice if you have strong boundaries. Also, being a bitch in the right direction and situation is empowering. Feel free to practice saying a firm no from an early age.❤
It's always concerning to see older men acting and speaking like teenagers. This dude's creepy af
Old women can also be creepy as hell had family friend that would take care of me and my sisters as a kid and when I was 19 she was drunk at a family get together and grabbed me and tried kissing me out of nowhere. Also had a few friends that were groomed by other friends mothers and sleeping with them at 16.
Oh absolutely. Women aren’t exempt. Fewer women do it than men it seems, but that doesn’t excuse the ones who do.
The way roger speaks to her reminds me of how my ex 10 years my senior used to talk to me every time i tried to draw boundaries... his mother was in on it and both gaslit me. Take it from me, an older guy thats interested in you KNOWS whats going on and how wrong it is yet still proceeds.
I had a bit of a weird feeling about him when he followed me when I was freshly 18. I went through his following and a lot of it was other girls my age.
Side note: I asked him for a short cover during a live and he requested $40 for a cover 😅 I don’t think the price equates his level of talent
Lol 40 bucks ?! Maybe 5😂
This feels like textbook groomer - I'm glad the young lady got away from him
I was v bubbly, up beat and chatty as a teen and college student and i CANNOT tell you how many OLD MEN i had to stop from physically grabbing me or trying to touch/kiss me. I used to blame myself because I thought maybe they got mixed signals, but now that I’m in my late 30s I know better and they should’ve too!!
Had a few old guys try to manipulate me when i was 16/17. At the time I thought I was just enjoying the attention. Now.. it feels gross. Glad I was smart enough to nope out before they got anything out of me. Shudder.
Ewww this reminds me of a narcissist I dated a few years ago; he was 50 & I was 25. It was such a power struggle because he had money and I was in a rough spot in life.
I feel so bad for these young women in these predicaments. Unfortunately, it is nearly impossible to avoid creeps in general but especially on TikTok/social media!
Wow... what a creep! The boy ain't right and DON'T TOUCH THE CHILDREN, or follow them until they aren't under age... ugh!!!!
DON’T TOUCH THE CHILDREN!
Creepy, cringy, manipulative, abusive, traumatizing & life altering.
that was disturbing.. Roger shame on you..What A creep, those texts were the definition of cringe..
Leave the children alone!
Thanks for covering Michelle we love ya💜 that guy ain't right.
DON’T TOUCH THE CHILDREN! 😂
And while you’re at it, stop creeping on their social medias
I was hit on and had more attention from old men circa 11 - 17. It was eeally weird and at the time, i didnt understand or interpret it in any way.
Looking back, there were so many pedophiles cat calling me and trying to talk to me.
Same I haven't been hit on openly since I was a child.
@@soundmind69Same.🤮
It's very sad that 99% of girls go trough that as teens. Me and two of my friends, around 16 yo at the time, where chased by creepy neighbor and his friends, who was in their forties. We were flattered at first by the attention, but then it started to get very uncomfortable and I left the friend group. These men are everywhere, just waiting for young and naive teens to pray on, disgusting!
You're not the only one! 🤢 When I was 14 n old man around in his 60s or 70s told me I look cute in a skirt!!!!!! 🤮
I'm very much loving this current era of seedy and predatory social media influencers getting very publicly outed for their inappropriate conduct.
The hotel interaction was bad enough, but those DMs still felt like whiplash to hear. His messages are so abusive and coercive. And he has the audacity to call _her_ "controlling?"
I'm 42 and don't have any teenage friends. My daughter is 20 and I would never hang out with anyone in her age range. I wouldn't date a woman below 36. Alot of men like younger women for what reasons they deem necessary. I hear why they say they like younger women and it's not for me.
"Because that's not illegal, but it Is Creepy" 🤣
Ladies, please have a healthy skepticism and even a little paranoia of situations like this. If something feels weird, it probably is. I wish that I had that advice when I was 14 (he was 21) & 16 (he was 26). It took around 15 years before I realized what actually happened.
This just shows that supposed money and fame does not cancel out creepiness despite what the UA-cam manosphere preaches in their echo chambers.
I agree, it's one thing to call someone beautiful, but it's another thing to be creepy about it, like if he was just complementing them every once in awhile, I don't think anyone would bat an eye, but unfortunately that's not what he's doing. I can't believe it's hard for people, to not be creepy to other people, especially children.
TBH I think people need to stop commenting on kids appearance's at this point especially young girls. Unless you are a parent/guardian and the concern is related to their health or safety, stop commenting on kids, it is really fcking weird and can cause all kinds of damage to them!
@@jj-gk6rj I don't think just complimenting a kid's appearance is going to damage them, if they went further than just complimenting then yeah I can understand, but simply complimenting the appearance of a kid, is not necessarily a bad thing.
Oh this is shocking. Bullying is bad but preying on another you have power over is worse. 🤮
There was a situation that happened to me in early 2016. By no means was it the worst thing to happen to someone, but I just thought of it because you mentioned how these men start small and then try a little more each time.
I worked at a Carmax dealership with a man who was 50 at the time; I was 30. So no comparison to this story in regards to age, as I was not in my teens and had been married for around five years at that point.
However, this man was known to tell inappropriate jokes, talk openly about sexual topics with the team, and disrespect female managers. He even just looked like the typical creepy 50-year-old: White New Balance sneakers, balding, glasses. But aside from the looks, it was his demeanor and words I found unnerving.
One day, I was at the front desk waiting for the next customer. He was nearby, talking openly on the sales floor about how he and his wife were planning on going to a strip club that night. I was doing this uneasy chuckle thing I do when someone’s being cringe.
He walked up close to me and whispered in my ear, “I could see you being the stripper in that club.” Because I was at the front, I was just like, “Ok…ha ha.” 😬
I kept on with work and stuffed my emotions, but when I got home, I was in a terrible mood and had a bit of a meltdown at my husband over something minor. It was then that I realized what was bothering me, so I told my husband what happened. Of course, he insisted I tell my manager the next day. I actually wrestled with it and even asked a few coworkers (some told me to let it go), but I realized that this man was going on test drives alone with young women. It wasn’t just about protecting myself at that point.
Later that morning, I met with my manager and told him about the comment. I was genuinely thinking they’d just give him a slap on the wrist. However, they actually fired him. 😳Management said that my situation was simply the last straw; they’d already seen and heard enough.
The creep took to Facebook and text messaging, telling people I invited his comment and was just out to get him. (I wasn’t Facebook friends with him, but others were telling me, and we had mutual friends, so I could see comments he left on their posts.)
I was the #1 salesperson in the store at that time, so of course, jealous women and even a guy or two latched onto the gossip and saw it as a way to ostracize and undermine me. One girl even went so far as to start other false rumors about me. There was another person who’d gotten fired, which I didn’t even know about right away. But she told him I was somehow behind it. 😢
There was a mature group of people who had my back. One woman in particular said the creep has approached her for nudes, but she didn’t report him because she didn’t want to go though what I was then undergoing. 🤦🏻♀️
In short, I was living in a big city at the time, so I just decided to go work for another dealership. The next place was great, though we moved to another city later that year. I’ve been out of the car business since 2018.
The creep went on to become a truck driver. 🤣
Bless you for doing this, the world needs more people like you speaking up for what is right!
You were so 100000% right to confront/tell on those abusers in the moment. I'm sure the victims were upset at the time but you're so correct about it being so much harder to prove later on. You're the hero we need, and Roger is a creep!
I see grown ass men above the age of 40 commenting on little girls photos as young as 8 but usually I see it more when they are like in the preteen age range. 12 is the most common I see
Ugh that boy ain't right! I too am a tattler! I was JUST graduated from high school (so 17) and my best friend's sister's husband hit on me when he dropped me at home. He told me not to tell after I said no thank you (I'm sure I looked uncomfortable he was like 7/8 years older than me and HAD 3 KIDS with my bestie's sister) and I said okay and IMMEDIATELY called my best friend and told her. We both laughed at why he thought I would have ANY fear or loyalties to not say anything then while on the phone we both told her sister. Afterwards my friend's sister didn't like me anymore, I guess she liked it better when the women didn't tell after turning him down. It came out that he cheated on her regularly and had a thing for younger girls
I feel bad for his wife living in that much denial and letting his creepy ways make her be envious of young girls. What a mess.
Hope she leaves and hope you and your friends keep being powerful and strong! Never let these weirdos stop you from living your life!
I don't know how some people don't get arrested by some of the things they be doing this is disgusting
Some of the things _you_ be doing?????
@@venomg5799 sorry it's autocorrect
Omg he is soooooo creepy. I worry for these you girls and boys who may fall victim to predators such as that guy!
I feel like every week theres a new "biggest creep on tik tok" video... conclusion.. Tik Tok is a place for creeps.
OH MY GOD!! those texts are nothing short of INSANITY. It was totally a conversation with himself bc she never answers wtf! How cringe! How he can feel anything other than embarrassment at this video would be beyond me😅
My dad is 55 and I am eight years older than that girl. 💀 So that really really triggers my ick factor.
That creepy old man laugh was too accurate 😭
My husband has perfect pitch. I had him watch the clips of Roger singing and he hasn't stopped laughing. He said with training Roger could maybe hit the notes but he has no idea how this man got so many followers other than people thought of him as a silly grandpa and thought it was cute.
One of my favorite teachers in law school use to say : "just because something is not illegal, doesn't mean isn't morally or ethically correct behavior" .
"You because you don't like something doesn't mean it's morally or ethically wrong"
- Me
@@5050ChanceImSerious 😒
Hi, Im a gay man. I had my first intimicy with a 28 year old man. I was 15 at the time. Long story short. We where together for a few years and he broke up with me. I feel violated and I dont talk with him anymore, because I pretty sure he also cheated on me. The awfull part is, I kept on meeting men like that, because noone ever taught me better. Now Im 32 and full of hate. If you have gay children,... pls check who they are meeting. Men can feel violated like women do.
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I definitely don't understand tiktok. The more I see what is successful there, the less I understand
The thing is, she does not present as an adult, if i saw that girl i would think she is 15-16. Is not only the way she looks but also the way she speaks and acts. This is the kind of girl that you steal from because she would totally fall for a scam.
So its not only that he is attracted to little girls, its that he preys on them.
Gross! I hate creepy old dudes! We had a guy at work that was late 40s and he would come by every day to talk to one of my coworkers who is in her early 20s. I overheard some conversations that were borderline inappropriate, like he was testing her boundaries to see what he could get away with. I and a couple of other coworkers asked our 20-something coworker if he was bothering her and she said he was fine. We finally mentioned it to our boss who talked to his boss and just ask that he not spend so much time in our office. He quit the next week.