For Honor - NEW SEASON - Warden BUFFS, Nuxia Changes & More
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What about testing grounds? It will be soon or?
I'm still surprised we've never gotten a feat overhaul for a vast majority of characters. Since feats are very important in 4v4s.
It would be a really easy way to change the viability of a lot of heroes too. You buff one feat and all of a sudden 10 heroes get buffed by association, you switch another hero's feats out and he skyrockets up the tierlist without a single movelisy tweak, etc.
@@GrassToucher- Most feats are completely useless for the characters on them, take jorm and cent march as a feat or the other field oath breaker is a throat punch of a feat.
@@GrassToucher- feats are fucking broken. They really need a rework as it’s so inconsistent not to mention incredibly unfun.
I hate when I get killed by a feat I have no clue the enemy has. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve died by a off camera long bow or fire flask. A match can be won by just two dudes throwing their feats and it’s dumb
he thought feats will ever be changed.. he mad!
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs the feats show under there health
3:41 Oh fuck those are some From Software servers hitboxes.
I feel like warden didn’t necessarily NEED it either, the pressure he has is insane. I understand why but don’t agree with it.
I’ve gotten better at defeating characters like Nobushi and Beserker but Warden is one that I still have trouble defeating even in a team fight.
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogssounds like a skill issue. Warden definitely needed some buffs but the trajectories are not the main issues, however it is helpful. It is really painful to see warden’s hitbox to just glide over an opponent and get peeled. His defense in teamfights is still trash especially after the dodge changes (no guard after dodge), and he only gets a dodge bash which barely gets i frames like dodge lights or heavies from other heroes.
@@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162 I agree with the bash and hit box just not the bigger hitboxes than it should be.
I think he’s fine now and I do have an easier time fighting him than I think I do but he’s still a mess imo. He needs buffs just not something dumb like the bigger than sword hitbox. That’s just my opinion though, I can see why they did it and I’m sure I’ll get used to it.
I’d like for his side bash to have more s as it should be somewhat better. I think side bashes really need to be standardized as well for some hero’s.
Warden’s trajectories make him good sweeper in the minion lane as well as against Pikemen in Breach
I rly notice the difference
catching ppl 2
@@unlucky6139 i'm still having issues w it lol, 4v4 i notice but people can dodge in th wrong direction in a duel and still not get hiy
@@TheSuperSpud i mean it’s not undodgeble so that’s okay, it just catches people more plus you can delay the heavy and it will hit ppl 😩
@@unlucky6139 I'm gonna get back into delaying, I think it's mostly characters with big dodges anyway so it's not that bad- Warmonger's dodge attack is such a migraine tho
Bruh the baseball bat swing hitboxes are soooo good hahahaha
I still think Nuxias tier 2 and 4 should just switch places and get mild adjustments, her tier 4 is pretty much just WMs tier 1 but without having to hit somebody and I never really liked Nuxias T4 options. Meanwhile the spikes (as you state yourself) are broken for a T2, they can keep minion lane clean for a short time or turn teamfights into a minefield.
My thought is that they should straight up erase that trash feat from the game.
Never played nuxia before warmommy, but the feat even without any comparing is trash tier. I don't really remember does it damage allies from getting close, but even if it does the feat is absolutely worthless as a T4.
T4's are meant to grant you a kill if you get lucky, or to get powerful for a slight amount of time (reduced armor AOE or unblockables are great examples). And Nuxia's one is...Well...
Let's say that the opponent won't be babysat for another 15 seconds. In FH TTK (time to kill) is much much longer than 15 secs. Even if T4 were a T2 it'll be still somewhere lower than mid tier, as T2 usually grants you something cool and passive. Compared to heal on block or heal behind allguard the feat will be even so a little weak..
I'd say to just give her the unblockables feat. You do fall for traps if you try to parry them, and UB 400ms chain lights would be hellishly powerful for the average player, just as T4's are meant to be.
And caltrops for a T4 is not a bad thought. Though they are OP as a T2, and as a T4 would require some buffs.
it's up there with juggernaut in terms of being too strong for a t2
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial juggernaut is easily countered by simply waiting it out, but with caltrops that last around 20 secs and you are already probably standing in them...Not so.
And if you stand in caltrops there is plenty of ways making you take guaranteed damage (countering GB, parrying, enhance attacks)
I like how it's been about a day and the testing grounds are already at low activity
Personally, instead of the chain speed increase on hito's heavies, I'd much more prefer to see the hitstun increased. you may need to slightly slow down the lvl 1 kick to fix not being able to dodge it, however it'd make her gank potential much more viable in a coordinated 2v1
I want a warden undodgeable grab were he just grabs the goober and throws them back in-front. It does no damage nor does it chain(or chains to a light) but it would be funny and help him be a little more defensive against the dodge spammers but really more so for the meme
Edit: like just imagine you’re fighting an orochi and he is just spamming like crazy and all of a sudden warden just grabs him by the collar and throws him back infront of him and smacks him that would be funny as hell
yeah its called highlander
@@betvro6147 yeah but I have some self respect so I cant play him
Highlander grab barely even works anyhow
Been waiting for this we appreciate the time an effort 👌
I have to agree with what others have said. A feat rework across the board is needed at this point. No more slippery fourth tier give everyone something worth climbing too.
Another undocumented change (I think) is the addition of a “don’t block” option in training mode. Not really necessary as we could already just train against reflex guard heros but still nice
it’s documented in the patch notes but yea
Someone didn’t reach the patch notes.
@@delta.1295 it’s me. i’m someone
I'd say that hito is in a really good spot now. Sweep doesn't really need to be changed considering it's mainly a pulse check tool combined with a good ganking tool.
i think they only shortened hito's chain links on hit, doesnt seem like its shorter on block/whiff
also faster heavies means hito gets 2 heavies from an oos parry and an oos forward throw
or, if youre ganking, you can do heavy and charged sweep into heavy, for a longer stun
I doubt that devs knew what direction character roles will play in future and how it will be tied to their weapon. It definitely had initial significance and role play aspect to character in earlier days, but now since the game is taking different approach, it seems unlikely that those changes are revolved around initial character direction and their role in 4s
I hope nuxia does get more changes. Her damage is still really high and her frame advantage is all over the place. No frame advantage on side heavy finisher. Her heavy after heavy trap will trade with an opponent's light. And her zone trap gives so much frame advantage that she actually can gb you before any buffered button input.
Holy fucking shit Freeze spend some steel you're hoarding it like a dragon
I tried to play a match with Nuxia but people just early heavy especially if they have armor so none of your mixups work cus they can't get started
Has anyone else noticed the inventories are bugged out? The weapon set pieces are all over the place.
Hi mr.Freeze how you doing
Why does the new snake finisher go away before the new hero drops
Lol so Warden now wields an invisible claymore, nice
I was gone for 3 years
And god damn, when was this beautiful warden armour released?!
Its not an armour unfortunately, they've started doing the garbo skin rubbish, it's a set skin you can buy. Would be a billion % cooler if it was all interchangeable armour
It's a shame they havent tweaked wardens zone attack
So is all of this out or is all of this in the testing grounds ?
is for honor still alive? I would love to play it again with my friend but we arent sure if the game is still alive? is there crossplay and ranked duos?
Pls buff gryphon 🙏🏾
Onky thing I want with Gryphon is make his kick unpunishable like Valk's sweep, or allow heavy follow up more in tune like Shaolin's Sweep.
Nuxia is perfect, no other changes needed
Has that thing in the beginning been there always? First time ive seen it and i played since beta 😂😂😂
Didnt the devs already confirm a nuxia rework on the last testing grounds or am I tripping?
No, they only mentioned the positive feedback from players that literally have no involvement with the character anyway. Pretty much said "enjoy the rework", if you can even call it that.
God forbid that interest in nuxia increase. Yesterday, I saw one player that knew what he was doing and oh boi, nobody stood a chance against him and his mixup 1v1.
Could've been me. I'm that one Nuxia main that's pretty much anywhere lol.
@@suji4540 he wasn’t high on rep tho. Also, Have you played any breach last 3 days ?
@@TheConCarlos no I have not. I play Nuxia defensively. And either in dom, duels or elimination. Hopefully we come across eachother at some point :)
@@suji4540 so theres another shark in the sea
@@suji4540 yea he was playing aggro as fuck, he was often using zone, enemy team had a really good conq, and he was eating him like it’s nothing
Are these currently live ? I don’t notice a difference with warden
yes, these changes arrived last Thursday
I was expecting warden to get hyperarmour on every attack with dodge light & heavy and every heavy being unblockable & undodgeable but sure this is good start..barely a buff tho, Next buff I want all ^ this AND wardens stamina buff upto 180 with 200 health
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hi freeze
Nuxia mains rejoice🎉🎉🎉🎉
Yes raider buff
Those Warden hitboxes make me wanna vomit but everything else is great
I agree
All I want on Warden is an undodgeable so that fighting any dodge specialist won't give me an aneurysm
Him an cent should both get one
Nuxia needs something like Shinobi. Top heavy finisher is unblockable and the side finishers are undodgeable. Makes her so much more playable since people can't just dodge/dodge attack her traps in fear of being caught by the undodgeable. As for the top it'll serve as great bait for a trap since it puts much more pressure on the opponent to either dodge or try parrying the unblockable
Regeneration in caldrops best thing to go 😂
Warden needed better utility in 4v4’s..
dude i’ll buy that pendant, video game jewelery sounds kinda stupid but this works hella
Is the pendant out? I can’t find it.
@patricktrice6443 not out yet.
I'll get sent the first prototype soon.
I will keep you guys updated.
Thx for your interest
Still waiting for the removal of or nerf of black briors tier 3 feat of removing armor and making revenge useless and cant be counter played when fighting 2 or more people. It should either be moved to tier 4 or should be changed to reducing armor and not removing it. Or just delete the ability all together 🤷🏾♂️
Honestly i hope warden keep getting buffed to annoy people.
"Make Warden Great Again"
😭nuxia is my main I’m pressed she was changed
bro nuxia was F TIER since the start, let her be strong just once xd(coming from nuxia main)
I mean yeah, in 1v1 she was F Tier, but in Dominion or Breach, she’s got arguably the strongest feats for minion lanes. she will completely shut down minion lanes if you place caltrops anywhere in their spawn or their path.
So yeah, I’m not saying her moves themselves need to be nerfed, I’m just saying her caltrops need to be toned down in some way.
120 fps on xbox series x?
not yet
Every warden main says warden is weak but in reality top 4 dualist
Nuxia's traps are just reactable, the only negligible change is 32dmg on zone and trap animation timings. We can't just blindly claim unreactability on nuxia's traps because there are still so many options to counter them. The feedback to implement the changes were from from the majority playerbase that has little to no involvement with the character. We will never see a proper rework for Nuxia until the devs actually listen to the actual Nuxia players in the game. The devs first course of action was to blindly feed into the false claims of the playerbase that couldn't give two sh*ts. The caltrops are not even close to being the best feat in the game. The AOE of the feat is not even large enough and the dps is nothing in comparison to fire flask or nailbomb which are instantaneously set to activate dps on opponents while for caltrops you have the opportunity to move out of them. And her damage value should not be having you shaking in your boots, Dom 1v1s are a rarity and her deadly duet is only active in those scenarios. Elimination is the best game mode for Nuxia for her deadly duet. Wanting a nerf on her only decent feat for 4v4s (Infection not included, ty warmonger for nerfing that and making it useless) without even mentioning a feat overhaul rework? That's a little undiscerning.
The traps are unreactable, the number of options for countering the attack doesn't make it reactable. I'm not sure you understand what the term unreactable means.
Also, he said it was the best T2 feat, not the best feat in the game so comparing it to fire flask and nail bomb has nothing to do with the point made.
hi
I wish hito got his full charge heavy on wallsplat 😭
His gb and light parry punish deals 22 now too..
If we're gonna nerf caltrops i want Shinobis projectiles that do up to 60 damage nerfed 😂
Thought it was 80. Shinobis shotgun is banned in comp as well and people have been begging for a nerf for awhile now.
It’s not that bad for a normal player tbh. I just think we should get some more feats that arent just damage and nerf feats that guarantee damage 70% of the time.
Fucking hate long bows and fire flask. Those are just instant fun killers.
So a brand new season, and nothing significant changes, just your typical tweaks to character hit boxes, stamina, and attack speed. I swear with how interchangeable that is, they should let us tweak them ourselves with gear stats 😂 I think I’m done with for honor until the next one comes along.
After this Warden buff, I'm fucking pissed that Orochi's unblockable isn't 800ms. Idk if I have OCD, but ever since they said Shinobi's top heavy UB was 800ms because it was originally 700ms, I was cheesed about Orochi's.
you don't have OCD moron stop using the term so loosely when you've got no clue what OCD is
They need to nerf orochis stamina down to 100, thats what he really needs
No the fuck they don’t. You sound crazy
I still want them to just delete match intros
Isn't it time for Ubi to release FH2? Like wtf?! Baffled people keep playin this game still...
As a 8 rep Nuxia martyr, - I like the changes. But just as stated in the video, they are not really in the branch that matters or is significant enough for hero to be picked atleast once every 45 games.
Yeah, cool, unreactable traps. It's either that I'm a total noob, or just FH stuff, but my enemies NEVER counter traps (not with actual brain thinking I mean, sometimes they just do be monke use dodge attack). And if you use them rare enough, they are already not reactable.
And now, we receive unreactable + faster. What do we get? Unreactable still!
The truth is, that to an average player (like myself), they are already pretty much avoidable by read, not by reaction. It might be possible that top players can react to them, but the game is not meant to be balanced just for tops. They already demolished one game by applying such logic (yeah, I think 8 of my friends left R6:S because of uncontrollable recoil and operators being dumped into trash tier just because of overpick).
They already made such mistake! And they keep on doing it for the other game.
It's really nice to have completely unreactable attacks in the game (No), but please get some properties for these attacks as well. Hyperarmor for chain heavies? Maybe undodgeable heavy finisher?
No, we here at ubi just make stuff even faster. So that my enemy aren't fast enough to spam dodge attacks I guess.
Just parrying works completely fine for me. But may I remind you that there are heroes in this game who ARE NOT EVEN REQUIRED TO PARRY IN ORDER TO PUNISH DODGE ATTACKS? Yeah yeah, all these recovery cancel heroes adding BP ontop as well. And that is legit circus stuff, as some heroes are required to use brain cells, all the while others have an option select or punish for pretty much anything the opponent does (like warmonger has I-frames while still having time to feint her HEAVY ub dodge attack).
You think her T2 is the best in the game?? Nah bruh what’s wrong with it😂? And Hito zone has a perfect weapon model trajectory, but Warden heavy can hit you without hitting you?😑
No new Maps or modes, still Recycling 100 times the same sh.... 😢
How to counter caltrops: Just step away, it doesnt need a nerf, its literally a worse version of warmongers tier 1 feat.
You say that until you have to do anything near them.
You know theres a thing called a guard break?
@@Ruk.14 I don't think he knows
@@oofboof5030 nah he's right. Just walk through the gb and it'll bounce off.
Is Warden cancer now? What about Hito?
warden is fine, more hitos as she’s more comfortable to play. if you could already beat hitos it’s literally whatever she just feels better to play
I wouldn’t say Warden is cancer. His offense is even better than before, but he still eats up stamina pretty quickly.
Hito is definitely a little more obnoxious imo
WHYYY does warden KEEP getting buffs?!
Cuz he's ass
He haven't had a buff in a long time ☠️
When was last time he got buff tf..? 2 years ago and he deserves to keep getting buffsss…he was their posterboy but they abandoned him
Someone gets their ass kicked by warden
@@bruhmcchaddeus413 he just got 2 reworks? Fym?
gonna be real freeze im not buyin shit from vking
Hell naw Warden buffs gonna spread like aids faster than covid 💀💀💀 he did not needed those buffs.
He did need buffs but giving him Dark Souls multiplayer phantom range definitely isn't the answer 😂
Cry harder, He aint got a buff for legit 2 years fym?
hi hoja
@@dave7474 My plans have been revealed
@@bruhmcchaddeus413 and characters who are objectively worse at least in duels like highlander get nothing. So what's your point here?
6:10 He says that like casual players ruin things by complaining about them when it's literally the opposite. Comp players and "pros" always ruin every game they touch by complaining about the tiny things and can't just enjoy the game because of said tiny things.
Lmao screw that. If casuls were prioritized, turtle meta would still be more rampant than ever, especially now that we got crossplay and new gem consoles thatd just react to everything so called “skillful” old gen consoleros would try to do. Lmao
Can we take a break on game mechanics TGs? We need w complete feat and perk rework before we start making bashes 400ms.....like wtf lol
R u kidding? They actually buffed hitokiri again? What in the unga bunga
Actually they do suffer at high level duels. Low B tier.