For Honor - PATCH RUNDOWN - Y6S4 - Lawbringer Buffs, Raider NERFS, Weird Centurion Changes and more
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0:00 - Intro
1:54 - Lawbringer
4:46 - Centurion
7:54 - Pirate
9:12 - Peacekeeper
10:52 - Warlord
11:11 - Nuxia
12:17 - Raider
13:21 - Zhanhu
13:35 - Gladiator
14:17 - Shinobi
15:21 - Shaolin
15:53 - Medjay
16:18 - Kyoshin
16:41 - Warmonger
16:56 - Guardswap on GB Startup
17:32 - ANSEL IS BACK!!! - Ігри
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did you just heart your own message? xD
@@NightminerXD ye, it's that good
@@fkkfreeze unrelated to the vpn. I was just spectating my friend his duel, do you happen to know anything about spectator mode showing more frames ? Since we are both on ps4 and i have never had this before, however i spectated him 3 times in a row and everytime it looked like 60 frames or something.
Maybe everything looks slower while spectating, however i have never had this before and i thought let me ask freeze 🤠.
So for Centurion's charged jab, it looks like they tried to fix one problem and caused another. It can now effectively track extended dodges like tiandi's and Jiang jun's but it can't track regular dodge-heby anymore.
I mean should it really catch both, the extended and the regular Dodge attacks? Does anyone else got a bash, which is able to do that?
@@nuke1863 im pretty sure cent is the only one with a charge bash who can't so yes, it should
@@SirVelstadt i meant on the Same timing/Charge level. As far as i know No bash in the Game can track extended and regular dodges on the Same timing.
Im no cent Main whatsoever, so If He has problems Tracking dodges in general , im all for it. But in my experience of my rep20~ Cent, the jab Tracks fairly Well. But obviously could be the fault of my opponents.
The old hyper armour has also been applied to the fully charged punch which means he can be light AND heavy interrupted during a fully charging... ffs
@@SirVelstadt never on the same timing though... Plus, you can't compare cent's charged bash to other charged bashes like warden, warmonger or hitokiri because those are always GB punishable. Warden and warmonger bashes are not nearly as fast as jab. If you access from neutral side dodge, it's like 700ms. Hitokiri is faster because it's only usable in chain but the miss recovery is like 1000ms or something stupid, enough for warden/warmonger to fully charge a bash on a side dodge.
What a great breakdown of all the changes. Nobody does it better Mr. Fridge! Really, thanks for all the detailed information. You always give a nuanced and practical explanation of exactly how each change affects gameplay (in addition to adding context). Your work is greatly appreciated!
😊
Never forget when he said Gryphon on release was healthy for the game
@@Emilio-lz5uxhe was
@@Emilio-lz5ux old gryphon is weaker than any of the s tier heroes rn
One thing I’ve always been wanting for LB is a light to light combo. And I can’t understand why the devs simply won’t give it to him.
Or Armor to the most armoured guy in the game, they just hate lb I guess
@@rickberny1424 nah they just listen to the clown that this channel belongs to
As a PK main, I am glad she is getting little buffs here and there. She went from being OP and light spamy, to damn near unplayable, back to being a decent character to play. Love her and she will always be my main. Her new armor looks great too. I wonder how she would look if they decide to give her a character skin.
90% of Pk mains are still full of light spams lmao just like nobushi....
@@theintruder6085 if you fall victim to light spam you clearly haven’t grown. Light spam is only a thing if you can’t keep up. Everyone has fast lights. Orochi is faster than pk in every way. If you can fight him you can fight her. Not hate or shame your opinion is yours. I am a console player and can keep up with lights without frame advantage. Everyone is not the same as me but it is possible. Light spam complaints are irrelevant at this state of the game. Everything is moving at a faster pace so if you can’t adapt, well I suggest you play a high Hp character.
Yeah, but she needs at least 1 more change, and a couple moves that revolve around bleed and a light to bash on an bleeding opponent, and get rid of the free bleed off heavy attack, except the dodge one, so her heavy can be buffed and for crying out loud her dagger cancel needs to be like shamens
@@keenanjackson4087 I agree with you but it’s Ubisoft. They are so slow with their updates and I am sure they have a lot of pre planned things that they just say “oh we just thought of this” the best option is to have actual players give input and use that input. I think that the reasoning behind it too is because they don’t want too similar characters. They went from each character being unique to every character being able to do the exact same things in a different manner. Then it gets boring and other characters don’t get played. Like this new hero they are to release. It is liking going to be a female based on the trailers and looks to be an assassin like character. Seems to be carrying a small shield and dagger. Not sure what they will do but I am speculating and that hero will have everything pertaining to the class they are in. They are likely to be under powered so preplanned changes will look like major buffs. Ubi just doesn’t have a committed team to actually implement great changes that are likely to solve all around issues. They probably don’t even play their own game to justify their fixes and changes to the level they need to be at. I love their content and releases but they need to actually know what they are dealing with to do anything great. They had really bad server issues at the very beginning killing their player base in the first few days just to save money. I think they need more expensive and experience help to truly be great.
@@strangeiv5613 yeah but that's all games, apex legends is the same way, but I was a pk main at first but out of all the assassin she has the least flow to her offense and thing that don't make sense, for example her heavy cancel to dodge, like you don't have a bash or a good dodge attack so in what world would that ever work, she is fast, and counter attacker, of all the hero's that are counter attackers she has no counter attackers, just look at orochi he is the perfect example of a counter attacker, pk does have an identity and is the second worst assassin next to nuxia
If you want 2 other issues with the centurion change, his old max punish is gone, no more unlock parry to heavy to charge punch to eagles talon. Secondly, opponents who are in revenge, if wall splatted from a parry can now light or heavy centurion out of his charged punch before it hits them.
I cant shake the feeling that the dev team is split in their design choices in a way.
Cant see any other explanation why the same team that implemented the ccu would immediately start messing up singular characters' damage values again. Sounds like someones making decisions they shouldnt get to make.
With the lb buff his 1st feat harsh judgement feels quite"harsh" and I love it
I really feel like deflects should beat armor across the board.
Solid breakdown, concise and useful. Thanks
Tiandi's crushing counter attacks make him a light spam machine. He can use it to recover super fast and even beats out counter lights.
Any hero with reflex guard is gonna suffer
I honestly really liked being able to change my guard during GBs as it allowed for better punishes and was a "knowledge-check" of a kind...
ty for the detailed update
I think all heros with a deflect should have short recoveries like PK, Shaman and Orochi. That way you can get multiple deflects on an opponent if you make the right read, and this makes deflects in team fights a safer option.
Great breakdown thanks 👌🏼
Status quo for good bash has changed, charged bashes uncharge variants are some of the worst mixups for risk reward in the game by number. I think them chaining to opener/being guardbreak immune is fine.
I love where lb is, but his new shove makes his stamina drain issue even worse. I feel like I put people out of Stam so easily
I think any bash that gives damage shouldn't drain or pause stam. Only way you should be able to is if you have a feat that gives damage to bashes.
Enemies managing stamina isint in issue with high total rep players
@@Emilio-lz5ux I’m rep 397, and people definitely struggle sometimes. What I’m sayin is Lawbringers unhealthy punishes put the stamina drain on hard
Just tuned in hoping the patching review dropped, good timing on my side.
Amazing vid as always !
Warlord Scares me the most ! Total Iframe advantage / Crushing Counters all sides / HA at 100 ms / Bash / Undodgable / full block / 140 HP ! I guess we have new S+
Overall good nerfs !
These buffs are good for law, but no nerfs to parry punishes (specifically impale) is a huge surprise. I will expect impale to either be light parry only or only guarantee a chain light in the future.
Essentially he's the best in ranked duels😂 at least imo.
I'm hoping law gets some small changes in the future to balance him out.
I wish they would also make his lights consistent, like making top enhanced, and a light light chain would be ok
Love the nuxia and Warlord Changes, even tho Warlord didnt really need it (i Had no problems with connecting the Chain heavy yet) and nuxia could use some tweaking for the Zone Attack
why is it so hard to fix cent's mixup? What is this like, the third time they have tweaked it?
Because if he punches faster he will combo from pin and (in this patch' case: knee) so you can't make it faster like the other chargeable bashes. It needs better tracking along with earlier hyperarmor.
Hey Freeze, would you consider making a video comparing the Valkyrie Testing Ground rework to the now live version?
It would be very appreciated
when will the double gaurd break change come in?
I hope they add an option to host customs using local, it would allow us to use Ansel again.
To be honest I think Cent needs more combos and general fight mechanics. Every new character has a ridiculous amount of kit in the way of combos, attacks, and generally just unique mechanics. Giving him a new feintable dodge heavy, kick, or deflect punch would be huge.
That Cent change just makes him more like Warden right? Getting interrupted and the singular dodge timing? Unless something has changed Warden's shoulder charge.
wait LB still does 24 damage on top heavy? please tell me raider doesnt still do 38
So new glad OOS parry punish back light into light into stab into skewer throw to wall and heavy for like 60 dmg?
You can just dodge both timings of cent's full punch from light hitstun by buffering a dodge and then just dodging again. You would recover in time.
lvl 2 punch should beat that though
i feel like if characters can have a 500ms unguardbreakable bash so can chargable bash heroes, at least for level 1 it should not be able to get guardbroken, but i'm not a competitive pro so take it with a grain of salt
Could you talk about the paired emote glitch? My favourite glitch that is roughly balanced and actually fun to use has been patched. Could you make a video about it and maybe find a way around the patch and make it work again?
Lb may be in a nice spot strength wise but i feel like he still needs several quality of life changes. Removing his stam drain property on attacks and reducing the stam cost of his zone are prob what would make him a great hero.
hes gonna need alot more than that
For lawbringer, I just feel like some moves need hyper armor, because they end up either not being used or rarely used, like his super top unblock able heavy or his over the shoulder throw
I disagree. With the changes made, Lawbringer is quite strong and as freeze said, with one of the strongest UB in the game. I don't believe he needs any additional changes in all honestly. Though feel free to disagree!
@@musicenthusiast9801 That's because you're stupid and do not know how to deduce anything... Hyper armor is a defensive trait... Hyper armor across ALL of gaming is the role of a tank, a DEFENSIVE warrior or character than is allowed to not be interrupted or ignore flinching given they are attacked... if All of you damn idiots don't get your damn heads out of your asses to insinuate Lawbro isn't a defense based character I swear we have far more drastic problems than this... As such, the guy is wearing full plated armor standing at about 6 feet tall with a Halberd and is as squishy and slapped around more than a small Viking tomboy with two axes; on this games launch yes it was sort of funny because this game was new... now it's actually irritating to see Lawbringers being beaten all over the place by Sumo wrestlers wearing cotton armed with Kanabos and big stomach energy... This game literally did everything wrong. And making people like you fucking retared.
@@musicenthusiast9801 As freeze said lawbringer should be nerfed into the ground and he'll probably be happy if he gets removed entirely. Freeze's opinions are absolutely clown trash
@@unterhau1102 lawbringer gets a top heavy with every parry as long as theres a wall in a 100 meter radius of him
Which drains stamina, stuns and starts his mix up again
And im only talking about his parry punishes
10:30 tiktokkers so happy rn 🤩
Centurion now gets hyper armor way later.. Wich is not a good thing with all the fast attacks that have been added to the game lately
Check if tiandi's teir 1 feat was changed. I do not think it did.
I think impale shouldn't be possible from a heavy parry. Then if you get a light parry in a team fight you can go for a 24 dmg side heavy with a decent hitbox for a faster/safer punish with more followups, or a slower punish that gives more damage. This would be like Zerker, top heavy gives you more damage and ends the chain if you input the light, and side gives you all chain options.
I think it should. The way Lawbringer plays is punish their enemies for everything, if they get parried, they get punished. It's also funny and it's not that annoying compared to Pirate and Medjay
@@StalkyWalky u rly said medjay is annoying 💀
I think a lvl 1 bash should never guarantee a GB - considering everyone has a dodge attack by now, its just too much risk to go for a bash that does light damage and if it misses, you get punished by a heavy
Especially since it appears with at least Warden you can GB him out of his side dodge bash animation.
Agree
The only 2 characters I have up to Rep 70 got reworked and now I am sorta relearning them. I like what they did to Tiandi’s kick but not sure why the change to bash. I think how it was was fine. They could’ve kept the old and still added the new. Valkyrie I’ve not touched much yet so don’t have an opinion.
7:39 I feel like this might be a complicated question. I feel like you should only be at risk of punishment for equal or similar damage values as the attack that was punished (unless the punish is dependent on a parry) but I also feel like the multi-stage bashes should come with a higher risk due to the read involved in punishing them correctly.
With how cent is now it's weird how the underutilize the testing grounds for changes like this
Bro I didnt even know you could use ansel in spec mode, imagine if this game had saved replays. You could make montages of tournament playe with cinematic angles and stuff
4:02 Warden has had this for a long time im pretty sure. As far as I know Warden has the fastest forward dodge into neutral light in the game, previously followed by Warmonger. Could you measure this freeze?
I think his and WMs are the same
They are the same at 300ms, check the info hub :)
Hey freeze can you do a video about why people who play reflex guard heros never parry but only try and deflect everything or dogede it. its just retared and people who play them should start parrying
I'd like to see all level 1 charges only be punishable by a dodge attack, with the exception on Hito. Since Hito gets 22-24 every time, but maybe she can have the same rule too, since she can't get 27. That would be a good thing to just throw into the next TG to se eif it would stick.
That's not a very good change
It’d be nice if you said the previous damage numbers
Glad got his toe drop back, but Cent can’t get his Quick Throw 😔
I love that they gave nuxia a buff but I think the buff made it near impossible to trap after getting a hit with the first heavy. Just tried this out and I cannot get a trap on the second swing if the first one hits
Nvm. I was doing this on hero tactics and noticed that on the second swing, the bot would instantly move its guard to another way then back to where it was in an instant
@@johnheather19 Bro the main buff they gave her was an actual deflect, her traps ain't affected
Considering LB bash has been sped up im guessing they will make in chain bash faintable
Chain bash is 500ms, so it won't become feintable
All deflects need to break hyper armor dude, crazy that some heroes are just immune to most of em
I'm very happy with this Lawbringer change; it sets him up for a very easy needed nerf on stamina drain and parry punishes to put him in a healtier spot.
Maybe Ubisoft could make the impale riposte a forward + heavy attack, giving LB an option to mix up the opponent between a bash or an attack.
You will find literally zero support for LB being adequately changed on this UA-camrs channel. People here would rather LB not have any changes and call people who want changes idiots because they believe LB is perfectly fine being the communities punching bag.
@@iffyfox9749really? Freeze himself and many people I've seen in this community have said he should recive changes. In this very video Freeze talked about how Lawbringer can finally have some of the shitty parts of his kit nerfed to not be as OP without leaving him in the dumpster.
@@iffyfox9749 no, the thing is that lb main are famous for having double standards: character with insane defensive options has "always been bad", even pre ccu, hell, people complained when his light parry punish went from 50 to 40. Don't act like Lb is a victimized character or some shit, he has always been a more defensive oriented character,and in that is very strong, but is also lackluster and nobody ever denied it. There is difference between bad and limited.
@@iffyfox9749 You have literally never watched a single one of these videos.
Might play for honor again now with lawboi being buffed
orochi's deflect got an unblockable effect
Yes, I agree, Lawbringer is really busted now, that's why I want some more buffs but A BUUUUNCH of nerfs, like a lot, stamina pause and stamina damage need to go for YESTERDAY for both Shoves and top heavies.
*As I've mentioned, stamina damage and pause CANNOT be a thing, even less on Lawbringer who can deal 66 guaranteed damage in a OOS GB punish, the thing is every form of stamina damage or stamina pause should be removed from Lawbringer's kit (Shove, Light riposte, top heavies in general and Blind justice) but the stun effect should remain on the moves that have it and his chain top heavy need to deal 27 damage (from 28) and top heavy finisher need to deal only 30 damage and being 900ms (from 30+5 damage of the Swift justice and 1100ms speed);
*His 66 guaranteed / 82 unguaranteed OOS GB punish combo NEED to go to hell, it is absolutely busted, it should at best guarantee a light opener and a top heavy + unblockable mix-up;
*Something that would definitely make Lawbringer a boring character to play is to give him a chain bash after a light opener ONLY (not mid nor finisher light, only opener) OR a light > light > heavy combo;
*He need "better" lights, all should be enhanced and all chain lights should be 400ms, but they cannot deal more than 10 damage, this is literally a damage nerf on his Shoves, but this gonna fix the issue of Long arm being punished by a light attack;
*Impaling charge could be a roll catcher forward dodge heavy attack which deals 10 damage, guaranteeing a light opener if it wallsplats, this same changes could easily be applied to Impaling riposte;
*As essence QOL buffs his zone need to be 600ms with 30 stamina cost (from 700ms and 60 stamina cost), Make way should also be 600ms with 30 stamina cost (from 900ms and 60 stamina cost), his Long arm of the Law could easily be 900ms (from 1000ms) like Demon's embrace and the GB recoveries of his opener could be readjusted;
*Blind justice need to have it's Swift justice removed for good but now Blind justice need to deal 30 damage.
Other things that could be changed is the Impaling riposte long range could be nerfed, top heavy finisher and Blind justice could be medium hitstun instead of heavy, his finisher light chainlink could be reduced to make the Light > Heavy > Light no longer be guaranteed in a OOS parry punish and his chain bashes after mid and finisher heavy could also be removed, letting the light opener, heavy opener, Blind justice and maybe Light riposte too could have this tool.
My only real complaint and this is even a nitpick I just wish long arm was faster or more viable from 1v1s even though I know it's better in team fights
Since cross platform is possible would you hop on a few matches and explain the game some. I love for honor and i want to understand the game better. Mostly because I'm trying to go for a tournament next year and I need to be better on a technical level.
It might be good to check out MarcoYolo's video for how to play For Honor, it covers any basics you would need to understand, including some less obvious mechanics like frame advantages. Although if you are looking for hero specific tips or information you'll have to look at the For Honor Info Hub, it will give you every numerical value for heros, such as attack recovery, hit stun, and special properties. Hope this helps.
Still not sure about LB buff. Character didn’t really need it but if it shuts up the people begging for buffs then I’ll take it I guess.
I kinda like the y6s3 cent punch. It was weird but it worked if you accepted that you couldn't mix between level 1 and level3 bashes against enemies with stam. Make the uncharged chain to imperial might on wiff to give it something different compared to other charges bashes and cent would have been sitting pretty. The hyper armor came in early enough that you could almost always armor through interrupt attempts, which was very neat.
Lawbringer top light is still 9 damage lole
And idk if he needs 60 stam zone for a 700 ms unfeintable move. Also I think the chain finisher lights still have stupid recoveries, but I think they would be better as undodgables.
But I’m sure most FH community LB improvement suggestions are either something something long arm OR something something hyper armor. Just look how long its taken us to get the move griffen was nerfed too on LB.
I hope they gut him first, so all the nonsense is gone, like impale on heavy parry, stam drain etc etc
After that we see how many buffs actually make sense/are needed
I prefer they moved the opponent to the opposite side (Valk esque) and acted as a second light but I don’t know how difficult that would be to add.
All I want for LB is being a bit more similar to his IRL counterparts in the moveset: unbalancing deflection, toe stab and top H SF into anything except the shobe
@@fkkfreeze said it for years that they should get rid of most impale punishes, so much so I forget about it. Its noticeably how fast you can put damage out when you get off the chain with the new hitboxes.
There's so much that can be added to each hero, but I swear theres people out there who want the most boring iterations of heroes possible
Jiang Jun is now Jung Jung. This is now canon
i think it would be nice if all bashes that grant a heavy are punishable by gb and all bashes that grant a light were not
The rework for tiandi feels great against orochi, which is a plus for me. With the bash of lb, I can't really complain. it feels like that casual change zerker got a while back that made him way better.
tiandi is AIDS and needs a nerf asap lmao
@Mutantdogfangs I say the same thing about said orochi have they done anything with that?
@@snowdrifter6187 orochi as he is rn is decent but nothing too strong. Simple to counter rlly. Tiandi tho is actually busted.
I really like your lawbringer fashion. He shouldn't be as strong as he is gameplay wise though
Yeah, let's go back to 2017 lawbringer why don't we?
Lawbringer gang RISE UP! He is competent now!
And yet I would give away the shove buffs in a heartbeat for the second chained heavy to be undodgeable and maybe a doube light chain (I would make the heavy finished be undodgeable but not be unblockable in the case of the double light chain).
nice
Mr Freeze back again with the... most reddit tier takes I've ever seen because he bases everything on frame balance instead of fun
ye... facts and logic instead of dreams... what an insane way of living
U sound happy
I know shinobi’s gank’s are pretty bad but if they were *allş made to feed inane amounts of revenge, would the char even be relevant?
law is so op now
For centurion is not a nerf, is truly destroy and removein' his true power, now he must only use a sword
People need to stop saying LB needs a nerf, he's been needing something to compete with the speed of everyone else. The entire roster shouldn't be nothing but aggressive characters, let him have what he has. If every character plays the same then there's no point in choosing a specific hero because they'll all have the same combos, damage, and speed. That boils down to which hero you think looks coolest and I guarantee you that will get old really fast. Heroes need to be different from each other with different speeds and damages. No reason a goki light should be the same speed as a PK light nor should they deal the same damage or even similar
Dude you're on freeze's channel. This guy hated LB since like, forever. You shouldn't be getting your info from this clown fr
Centurion is still not fixed yet? Everyone has delayed dodge attacks now, so he's even worse no?
Law should be left alone at this point he needs no nerfs what so ever but if he gets one give the boy hyper armor so then he’ll be balanced
Can’t believe raider gets another nerf
Shinobi kick "nerf" doesn't push away enemies far anymore. It looks like they hit an invisible wall. Sucks cause I like to toss ppl around like a rag doll 🤷♂️
MY TIMEEE
Big changes. I just played without reading patchnotes and saw Glads toestab is back and LOST my shit lol.
With charged bashes lvl 1 should never gaurentee a gb. It should be dodge attackable but not gb. Gb is way too high of a punish for a bash that gives a light
Yo I can’t wait for pirate to heal the enemy with forward dodge heavy next patch!
Lmao 12 dmg is pitiful if you take into account the frame advantage nerf from pistol blast, I dislike how once a character is broken it just keeps getting nerfed just for fun, I don’t really play her but she’s getting shafted hard imo.
You have UA-cam and casual Reddit to thank.
I have a feeling pirate will be buffed at somepoint the devs just seem to do this thing where they nerf the hated characters a lot and then slight buffs later. I'm noticed that with gryphon with his hyper armor buffs so who knows
I kinda wish they didn't touch lawbringer, i slawed with him reguardless of this buff
10:19 I was really confused by what they said about “even more hitstun” for the deflect on stream. Lights and heavies after deflect used to be undodgeable because of hitstun, but now the heavies can be dodged. Weird change
Centurion should be literally unguardbrealable period... When you have a blind, cloth-wearing, reverse grip wielding katana "samurai" who can see into the spirit realm and cut through your literal soul... able to jump spin kick you and is unguardbreakable... Centurion should literally not be able to be guardbroken from one quick or even slow haymaker... it's literally fucking stupid.
They literally murdered Raider. Which was mainly a Domination and Teamfight hero to begin with...
I hope they nerf lawbringer his stamina drain
More than nerf i say they need to remove it
On what specifically?
@@thevoicej2511 almost every punish
@@yarek549 do you know how much they drain off hand by chance?
I don’t have a problem with Stamina drain on parry inherently but it could definitely be too high.
@@yarek549 removing it from the bash would be enough. Parrypunish stam damage isnt that high and requires a parry to pull off.
Yup might as well delete centurion at this point. They made it way way way worse.
I must need a reality check then because Lawbringer is not special compared to these other Characters in all honesty, his punishes are pretty tame when it comes to his Heavy parry punish because the only guaranteed damage is the now 1dmg his impale does then plus the dmg IF he wall splats you which still only equals 25dmg in total, but compared to how they needed to Nerf Conq's uppercut dmg after bash Specifically because Players where using it as a Parry follow-up paired with the basher feat and that was a guaranteed 23dmg. His Light parry punish literally just a 30dmg Top heavy that drains 30 stam and does 25 without the 5dmg tap so i don't know why you consider his parry punishes "Stupid" compared to a handful of other characters like Conq or Jorm, I would understand you grievance with his Stun if it were on any other attack but it's strictly limited to his SUCCSESSFUL Top heavy's and his tap. He still needs some Hyper Armor and I say he should have it on Heavy finishers and Parry follow up attacks. YIPPEE FASTER BASH!!!
LBs "buff" is so ass I didn't even realize he got one until I watched this video
I really like Raider's numbers and think they are almost perfect. As long as all other heros are balanced around these numbers, this may be a nerf that slowly gets "reverted" as other heros are lowered down.
though glad didn't get back his voice line for unbalancing opponents, these tweaks feel as rushed and unpolished as usual
He did. It just changes between the regular toe stab and OOS toe stab voice line
Raider got nerfed hard. He has very limited openers, slow heavys and only really has one unblockable and his chained heavys are meant for trading damage, but whats the point now when most heros are doing the same if not more damage on heavys then him? They fucked him in my opinion. He was all about damage and now he’s shit.
Lb has always been good in my opinion, it's just most people can't get it through their head that his playstyle was supposed to be defensive and that's where most his damage and pressure comes from. But I definitely agree that if anyone thinks lb is bad rn they need a reality check for sure
Lawbringer wears full plated armor yet can easily be punished and stun hit stunned... Especially when defensive characters in the game have better offense and defensive capabilities than Lawbro... Warlords blinding from parry is still better than Lawbringers, where he has hyperarmor... Lawbringer still has literally the worse unused unblockable in the game which is long arm I even forget he has it 99% of the time... Even in ganks it's ass, at least Medjay can get his from wallsplat and it does damage right away... where Medjay can also chain into his bash... Even with these two not being similar in playstyle their "special move" is... Lawbro needs hyper armor... it only makes sense.
@@parabellum4622 please gain more game experience before commenting stuff like this. What's next JJ needs a buff too?
@@alexerhardt662 Lawbringer is a 6 foot guy in full metal plated armor with zero hyper armor... Even defensively he fails while not having that defensive option... Imagine saying "reality check" when you stupid bitches are arguing this... In reality it makes zero sense as it's a damn video game... while he has no hyper armor that is non argument. You are the ones who need a reality check. Get the dick out of your mouth literally regurgitating what Freeze said. I guess now would be the time to talk about reasoning and decision making as to what rules decide what properties a character has. If there are none then again, you are the ones who require a reality check. And yes, JJ does need a buff, an entire rework in my honest opinion. I'm a Rep 70 JJ and he is an extremely flawed character. People like you who only gets their asses whooped by a character do not play them. Two chain attack pressure is not good combat and since his zone was slowed down it is now extremely punishable buy hyper armor if you're looking to trade after missed attack... among much more problems with JJ.
@@parabellum4622 dude you're so delusional it's not even funny. You clearly need serious mental help and have 0 clue what you're talking about, get 70 reps fighting bots doesn't mean anything. Again. Get actual game experience and knowledge before talking about buffs or things like that. I'm saying this for the last time.
Lawbringer is a defensive character who's offense comes from being extremely defensive
@@alexerhardt662 Delusional yet you're perfectly okay with leather and bare skinned Vikings being unhindered by attacks, while the character wearing the most armor in the literal game unable to trade without their Juggernaut feat... Warlord is a better Lawbringer than Lawbringer... You speak of mental health yet arguing nonsensical properties...
Jiang Jun Problems:
° Guardbreak vulnerability while dodging is added to the Guardbreak vulnerability of his heavy is why dodging for Jiang Jun is more dangerous than standing still... Even risk versus reward; undodgeable light attack chains from missed opening attacks catch Jiang Jung while dodging after first attack misses, nullifying his dodging combat. Even feinting the dodge heavy is risky. His Sifu Pose is unimaginably bad due to the attack being hyper reactable now as well as Sifu Pose being guardbreak vulnerable... Nobushi is a far better Jiang Jun than Jiang Jun... Jiang Jun combat is similar to Zhang Hu's yet Jiang Jun's heavies do not track or have good trajectory.
° The worst feature that Jiang Jun has is being able to cancel his heavy into a Sifu pose where it's extremely bad due to it only being able to punish finisher heavies from a previous missed attack if the opponent doesn't have a recovery tactic. Last but definitely not least
• Jiang Jun's neutral side heavies deal more damage than his neutral to heavies, while his finisher top heavies deal more damage than his finisher side heavies.
I like how Lawbringer gets one buff and he's only slightly better but Freeze already wants him nerfed. Yet JJ has been S-Tier since his realease and not a single complaint from freeze. Only proves my point that Freeze just hates Lawbringer for no valid reason.
I wanted him nerfed for years.
He has so many unhealthy aspects, it's quite frankly baffling how he still didn't get the axe.
And no, I don't hate LB... never have, never will.
I hate cretins that main him that have no sense of balance whatsoever... you basically.
@@fkkfreeze And what would those unhealthy aspects be? That one move that Warmonger can also do? Getting 24 damage off of a heavy parry when Black Prior can also do the same thing?
Seems to me that you only call these things "Unhealthy" because you personally dont like them.
Dont get the wrong Idea, I do want a lot of things about him removed as well. You say you dont hate the character but act like he's the worst thing that's happened to the game since his release.
@@jimmysimbs8705 lb mains are some of the most victim like ppl, always complaining about their stupid hero even tho its not even the weakest
@@Uncle-Ruckus. Nice Buzz Word
@@jimmysimbs8705 impale on parry should be removed from lawbringer as well as warmonger, she's no exception
does anybody else find that the game is incredibly buggy lately?
Seriously, just rework the character if you keep making pirate worse... if you dont like how disliked she is (imo extremely undeserved nowadays) then do something that makes all people happy (or atleast has the chance)
Because centurion needed more reasons not to play him.
Man I just wanted him to be a beefy Boi with hyper armor. Him having a fast bash doesn't sound that exciting.. just another generic hero
imagine lb being able to soft feint his UB to GB
What i hate most about the raider nerfs is that he was clearly meant to be an aggresive attack based hero. Clearly shown by his lack of defense, a dodge light to the top is his only option. Yet they nerf his damage. While there are heroes in the game that have it all and arent getting touched. High damage, dodge attacks, crushing counters, deflects you name it. Its extremely frusting and ive been saying for years that the best way to beat a raider is to be hyper aggressive and know youre defensive options against his offense. The redditors i feel won on this one with the damage nerfs. Not enough people know how to play the game properly in order to do well against raider and thus get punished extremely hard for it
I still doesn't underestand your positioning with Lb freeze, yeah true he has the best punishes in the game but that is ok because that is what makes him unique. He is much better now sure altough i think the in chain bash should still have the old properties but you calling him near S tier is a bit much.
Centurion unfortunaly still can catch a break with that bash. They could test reverting to the original one as you said to fix this problem.
Raider i don't see why he got that nerf, his number were ok in my opinion specially considering he has no strong openners and he is suposed to be a Hard hitting Bully.
Now the kyoshin buff i think is really unecessary. He could already feint that three to four times in a row. That thing on ganks is really strong, Plus the bleeding dammage Plus the heavy of his teammate on top. Plus in some characters you have to be really careful on witch atack you are trowing because the hit Box can Hit his counter and he still can kick you to confirm something. That buff in my opinion was really not needed.
Now the pistol shot nerf from pirate its ok but i think they were going on the wrong direction with that walk the plank nerf. She needed to be nerf Yes but not on that, she needed to be nerfed on her dodge foward UB and some of her hit boxes that are really damm big on top of having really good tracking.
I wouldn't be so vocal about LB, if the LB mains showed even a modicum of common sense.
@@fkkfreeze That's not a great way to respond, Freeze. Generalizing a group of people because of loud idiots is a pretty shitty thing. Honestly, your channel, your rules, I get that, but according to you, every main is an idiot somehow. I appreciate your candor and forthrightness, but that's just rude.
It is rude, I agree.
@@Rainbowboy-sv5fw i mean, you're right about not generalizing, but the problem is that actually competent LB players are either very rare, or very silent. The internet is full of the dumbest takes and that sadly dilutes the actual good comments that can and should be considered as feedback. And because for someone parrying is some high-end super skill, sometimes even pointing out how strong his defensive options are is subject of critics by lb players: i've seen very good comments by lb mains that obviously know what they are doing, but i can count them on the fingers of an hand...
@@fkkfreeze I appreciate you saying that. Thank you.