Hugh Hammer, Ulf the White, Addam & Allyn of Hull - Dragonseeds Explained! House of the Dragon
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- SPOILERS Fire & Blood - Everything you want to know about the dragonseeds - what they do in Fire & Blood, how they're being adapted so far, who they are as people, and more. Hard Hugh Hammer, Ulf the White, and Addam of Hull (and Allyn of Hull) get the full treatment. These are shaping up to be incredible characters!
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Great video… however I think they already addressed the Laenor plot point in episode 3. When Rhaenera mentions how restless his dragon is, and Mysaria responds “may be he (the dragon) is lonely” that seemed to hint the dragon was mourning. My guess is it sensed Laenor had died, where ever he was.
I got the same vibes.
Also the look on Rhea’s face (unnerved or maybe surprised). To me it felt like Mysaria’s words/observation made her snap into consider about Laenor’s wellbeing. Almost like a “oh shit, I hope Laenor is ok.” moment. I feel like they’re setting it up to write him off as dead.
I'm betting after the events of next episode, laenor pops up from wherever he's hiding and gets himself slain....
The general audience is never going to understand what the line in passing means
I had the same thoughts.
Oh to see Seasmoke being happy and smiling again!
Until he's murdered by his own kind. 😢
@@anorangetabby NOOOOOOOOOO!
Am I the only one that wants to see
Laenor Velaryon come back 🤷🏼♀️. I know what happens in the books but come backs are so loved appreciated on TV 🤷🏼♀️😆
@@AMYV3 To see Leanor eating cake and singing bawdy sea shantys whilst riding Seasmoke would be a treat!
Hugh Hammer is the one that I'm more excited the actor looks exactly like I imagine him
THE SEED IS STRO- wait, wrong house.
Nah, it all fits. ✌
Still works! Dragon rider seeds are strong, too :)
Well to be fair you don't get a nickname like Hard Hugh without being pretty yoked
Ahahaha
Loool
The Velaryons have been intermarrying with the targaryens prior to aegons conquest. Aegon's mother was a velaryon who in turn was half targaryen; their continued condition to marry the velaryons after the conquest further affirms this. The velaryons at this point have a little "dragon riding blood" within them, enoguh it seems for addam to tame seasmoke. I'm primarily a book reader. Moreover, in general, the "blood of the dragon riders" is a hand wavy concept in the books itself. it functions as george wants it to function. The point of the dragon seeds narratively is to pointedly undermine the targaryen doctrine of exceptionalism. They were given said exceptionalism by the high septon because they had to intergrate with westerosi feudal society but moreover, it is a concept by which george can critique those with perceived absolute power being the same as everyone else in reality. By all accounts, dany shouldn't have been able to perform her ceremony. She is a quarter blackwood, martell and valyrian. The point im making is anyone with a smidge of dragon riding blood has the CHANCE to tame a dragon but not the assurity. Whatever the percentage in addam allowed him to fully tame the seasmoke without issue.
yep i agree with all that, and like I was saying, they make great foils for the Targs. Hugh seems especially interesting
@@MrFox-gz7wm I too at first questioned how Adam could claim a dragon if he was Corlys son but yes if you look at the family line there is probably targaryens in his ancestry as well. It will be interesting to see the timeline of the brothers birth because at the moment Allyn looks older than Leanor but Adam looks like he may be the same age or younger. We shall see 🫣. He is definitely already considering them for his heirs though, the line ‘another opportunity may present itself’ and then the look back at Rhaenys, to me that was a ‘hmm how do I bring this up with her’ look.
Recent or Constant Valyrian Blood is needed for Dragon Riding. However, Bonding can still be an issue due to the particular dragon.
Perhaps Seasmoke was willing to bond with a Velaryon because he had already been bonded to one. Yes, Addam had less Targaryen blood then Laenor but he still had some and the rest of his blood (Velaryon) was familiar to the dragon. We aren’t sure how the bond actually works.
Edit: or his mother could be a dragonseed since we haven’t seen her yet.
@@Nubin2000 Thats not even remotely true. We have no clue how much dragon blood is needed. What we do know is that having some helps by a large margin but doesnt guarantee it. Even sons of house targaryen would be weary to tame a dragon ala fire and blood.
Hugh Hammer as a sympathetic character was really unexpected and suggests some new and interesting characterization for the dragon seeds
he’s sympathetic now; maybe he’ll be driven to do unsympathetic things further on? or at least, that’s what i believe.
@@monicad99 oh yeah, they are setting him up for loss, bitterness, and retribution. But it is much more interesting to have a character who feel no loyalty to his lords because the system destroyed his family than like the books, where he was just a turncloak
Given the prejudice against bastards in westeros I'm not surprised septon eustice might have taken some editorial liberties with those two.
@@Midgert89it’s also two different canons so don’t blame septon eusty ha
This post is from 2 weeks ago.
That's the episode where he knocked some guy out and stole his food, because he was too lazy to go down to the beach and pick up his own stuff 🤷♂️
If Hugh actually was team smallfolk in the book cannon, I could definitely see the Maesters going out of their way to slander him
Yeah, that is the part book readers need to consider in every plot point - the maesters' biases.
Whats a book cannon? Sounds wasteful. Book canon.
Addam watching Sea Smoke flying overhead with such wonder was telling. He was curious and for sure wanted to know where that beautiful dragon was going. I suspect we will find out soon that Addam indeed follows and then claims.
I’ve been thinking he was watching Baela patrol on Moondancer which would be its own awesome Easter egg but it being seasmoke also works.
I think Rhaenyra/Daemon will be shook when Seasmoke gets claimed. Will have a convo that Laenor must’ve passed, Seasmoke was upset.
If Rhaenyra and Daemon ever speak again.
Oh sweet summer child
"Hugh the Hammer and Sickle" if a superb joke i almost missed 😂 Hats off for that Dave
hehehe
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Glad someone else caught that. Che "El Chacal" Guevara and The Beard "disappeared" a lot of "smallfolk" including family and friends.
Theory: Nettles is Hugh daughter. Description fits and she is dragon seed through her dad. She seems sick right now but claiming a dragon she is brought back to full health (jaehaerys calling for an egg for sick daenerys link). Something happens maybe during the riots in kingslanding to Hugh’s wife and he flees from kings landing with daughter to dragonstone. A wide reach but I know everyone is desperate for nettles 😂
I thought she looked like a child maybe I'm wrong?
@@DavidLightbringer she did look young, younger than Jace but she looked a little older or same age as Luke maybe. It could be next season she would claim the dragon giving her time to age a little. Haha definitely a wiiiiiiiiiide reach only a thought really 🤔 only a justification for him even having a daughter where as in the books there was no mention of him having a family. But I think you are right in saying the reason they showed him having a family is to give us more perspective on the small folk. I unfortunately think it is much more likely that something bad will happen to them 🥲
@@jorose343I love that theory!
she's coming season 3. we're not getting 2 major battles this season
Ugh. It would be Daemon grooming again…. Otherwise I’m totally onboard with this theory.
My personal theory is his daughter will die in the KL riots serving as the catalyst to his betrayal.
I like the show’s choice to make foils of Ulf and Hugh.
Ulf is a lazy, honour-less, craven, hedonist only looking out for himself. Hugh is a hardworking family man. He feels honour bound to contribute to the war effort for his king, while trying provide for and protect his beloved wife and daughter.
Two very different motivations for pursuing their dragon seed claims. Also two different POV within the Kingslanding small folk. There not much point to including both characters if they serve the same POV with the same motivations.
It also makes for a more tragic arcs for Hugh if they follow the book path. If you’re looking for a potential classical chivalrous king of medieval lore, a hardworking family man of honour is a prime candidate; like a low born Ned Stark. George loves to take these classical tropes and turn them on their head. I could see Hugh becoming a honourable man corrupted by power, or perhaps his vengeance for his lost family drives him down a dark path.
or maybe he finds that only fighting for himself will do his family good, that none of these highborn families have any loyalty to him, even he was willing to give his to them.
@@monicad99 I like that too 👍
I love the thought of Hugh being team smallfolk. Maybe he never really goes mad but the writers make him the villain bc they didn't want team smallfolk to get any crazy ideas in the future? Who knows, but we do know historians control how we remember history.
24:35 with the way seasmoke has been acting, i think laenor dying is possible
Mushroom said Addamm & Alyn were Corlys’ and he lied about them being Leanor’s 😅 The writters have gone with some of Mushroom’s theories thus far and judging by the cast (age) we can be sure they’re Corlys’s, afterall.
But I thought the Velaryons weren't dragon riders unless they had mixed blood with the Targaryens? Cuz Rhaenys children had dragons because of her
i mean it's not really theory when you have insurmountable evidence bro. laenor does not participate in activities that bring forth children....
the evidence tells you laenor would never be their dad...
I would be surprised if they weren't his. And now he's being wishy washy about naming Rhaena or Joffrey his heir right after his scene with Alyn?
@@TheOriginalAliKatthe Velaryons and Targaryens have constantly intermarried it’s almost the same bloodline.
I hope they show at least a glimpse of Marilda, another awesome smallfolk character from the book.
I re-read fire and blood recently and it seems like Nettles doesn't actually start doing things until after I expect season 2 to wrap up. I think there's a good chance that she will be in the show but they're not introducing her yet, so as not to overwhelm viewers who aren't lore nerds.
yeah. she features in the second big battle and they definitely are managing the cgi budget carefully so she won't show up this season
I mean the books didn't have Baela going after Cole or Rhaenys storming through the dragon pit so the show could've easily introduced us to Nettles already if she exists that is
@MrFredstt the battle she features in is considerably larger cgi budget. they want to also manage our short attention span and our emotions so for this season shes not needed
I can’t wait for the “Loyal” moment. It’s my favorite part of the Dance in Fire and Blood
what is the loyal moment?
@@ivanlarr58 After Ulf and Hugh turn coat, there is a lot of mistrust towards the seeds, especially from Rhaenyra. She orders for the remaining seeds to be executed to prevent further betrayals. Corlys Velarion warns his son Addam of the impending danger to his life, allowing him to escape. After Addam escapes, he is still adamant in proving his loyalty, and that not all bastards are of low moral character.
He went from castle to castle and gained the support of thousands of Rivermen in order to take back the town of Tumbleton, the town that was initially lost when Ulf and Hugh switched sides. He has a YOLO moment and wins the battle with the element of surprise, decimating the greens and killing the great dragon Vermithor. He doesn't survive the battle, and years later, his remains are sent back to his brother Alyn, who used only a single word, "LOYAL", as the epitaph on his brother's new tomb.
@@mohammadalirashed3103 oh that’s awesome, appreciate the comment
What do you think of the Theory that Otto might take over the role of Hobart Hightower in the show and be part of the Caltrops and take Ulf out? It would fit with him going to Daeron and Oldtown right now, and give the viewers a character they know in the Reach storyline. I think it could be a good change.
yeah that could make a lot of sense, he would turn that scene into something truly epic like he did the confrontation with Aegon
Alicent specifically told Otto to go to the reach and manage the tyrells, not old town.
It's an interesting idea but I just don't see Otto willingly drinking the poisoned wine and sacrificing himself. He's the kind of person that sacrifices others.
@@aplusrecommends9406that’s not gonna happen for long if it does go that way
@@three-eyed_magpieI could see Otto drinking poisoned wine to take Ulf out. After everything he sacrificed to it Aegon on the throne, he will do anything.
Alyssa died 17 years before Baelon did. It'd make sense if he wasn't celibate after she passed
Ikr! The sheer stupidity of these narrators is craazy.
man, your content really is so wonderful! I read fire and blood several years ago, so things are a little hazy in my memory, but you're bringing it all right back!!! also i have sent your daemon's dragon song video to anyone who will listen lmao i think it's one of the coolest asoiaf theories ive ever heard!! thanks for keepin the good stuff comin :)
I think when seasmoke gets claimed is when rhaenyra realizes that leanor has passed away. We really dont need any more than that to assume he has died. At least he got a few years to be free over in essos!
"That's father"😂😂. I knew i had seen him somewhere i just couldn't remember.😅
I love what you offer. Everytime you find the hidden angle. You also have such a sharp mind and great humor, adds so much. I love watching your videos❤
aww thank you so much that made my day
Got my GF to binge all of GoT and HotD she was hooked. Got her the books and had to get Fire and Blood after that. Shared this with her and you got yourself a new subscriber for life! Thanks for all the great videos!
I just caught up on the show the other night. It’s been a rough few weeks not being able to watch your videos, glad that’s over!
David. Thank you so much for pointing out that Baelon was madly in love with Alyssa and likely is not Ulf's father. (I say likely because we obviously never know)
I was annoyed to see people talking Ulf at his word when people lie about absent parents all the time.
yeah I mean if I was writing that character, I would never have him say anything that was totally true. This is a guy who bends everything to make it a little better
Do I believe Ulf’s lying? Yes. But at the same time, men who love their wives cheat all the time. Especially in a society where there’s nothing wrong with men sleeping with women not their wives (at long as it’s not another man’s wife). Corlys clearly loves Rhaenys a great deal, that didn’t stop him from fathering two bastards (on the same woman I might mention) while away from her.
Jay Z cheated on Beyonce, just saying. No man can be just assumed to be above temptation
Didn’t Alyssa die young in their marriage and Baelon never remarried who’s to say he never went to a brothel after her death
@@mosthatedty9585 Facts, that would be a great throwback to Tywin too
Alyn “Oakenfist” Velaryon, a legend in his own right.
After Leanor surviving season one I thought he was going come back at some point with a bastard son claiming both were Corlys bastards to keep the story of his fake death.
As far as seasmokes dragon bond being broken while his rider is “still alive” puzzles me….. when rheyneara hears the mistress of whispers say “maybe he’s lonely” … that was a clear indication to me of the show addressing that leynor died. The look on rheynearas face was one of loss and immediate acceptance that her ex husband was now dead.
It'd be pretty neat if Laenor and Qarl's end comes at the hands of a flamboyant purple pirate, making for that to be their introduction. It was the 2 of them who brought it up in Season 1.
sounds likely. they come back and die. which releases the dragon for when jace calls for the seeds....
I find it interesting Hugh seems to be portrayed as sympathetic and kinda lovable. Very curious change to the character.
I'm always in favor of more perspectives from the small folk, and this story has so many nasty people why not make something a little different? or maybe he'll have some crazy villain origin story when his family dies
it's bound to be interesting in the actor has a lot of presence
Same, looking forward to his character arc
Still waiting for the moment Daeron throws wine in his face.
There's a line in The Death Of Stalin: 'Nothing more dangerous than a weak man.' His desire for an easy life is alright, even loveable, when he's in a tavern trying to get a drink, but when you give that attitude a dragon...
"Everyone's a greenseer"
I'm tellin' Alt-Shift-X that you're joking on him. Lol!
I feel like they've addressed the Laenor thing as much as they're going to address it - Rhaenyra said Seasmoke had been restless recently and then she stops and looks said - I took that to mean she must have realized Seasmoke was restless because he felt that Laenor had died. It was incredibly subtle but for those paying attention, it seemed like enough. Though, knowing the writers, they may beat us over the head with it later on in whatever episode Addam claims him (I'm guessing that's what the beach scene is and Nyra will monologue or something).
Nettles will be there. They showed her breifly in one of the bar scenes. The camera was behind her as she walked in. It looked like thecsame girl from season 1 who worked for Miseria.
lol k
I love these mid week videos!
Without naming names.
It's crazy that they're introduced so chill and as, practically, upstanding guys.
But then turn into such monsters almost instantly after getting their dragons.
I think we will see a situation similar to Ned with Hugh's story, where they basically say he was trying to usurp the throne. It should be interesting to see his character develop!
Im here for Hugh Guevara ✊🏽🇨🇺
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Viva la Westeros Libre
😂 i love this communities sense of humor
9:35 Didn't Otto say that Hobart Hightower was his nephew last episode? I think his older brother has died, in the show at least, and his nephew rules in Oldotwn. Though if they named the nephew Hobart in the show, it seems like maybe they're combining him with Ormund, who gets killed in the book leading to Hobart taking over?
13:00 I kinda love Hugh as being on Team Smallfolk too. And that's not even super incongruous with his book depiction, because if he was truly advocating for peasant revolt, the Citadel would have every reason to malign him in their sources since he challenges the status quo. That's why it's totally reasonable for Alicent and Rhaenyra to be much more sympathetic than the book depicts them to be, since neither Maesters nor Septons are known for having particularly high opinions of women as a group.
loved this video. I'm so looking forward to see more of the dragon seeds in the show. To see how the show adapts these moments.
Absolutely loving the new intro 🎉🎉🎉
0:50 which is why i'm excited to see how they're adapted for television. One of the strengths both GOT and HOTD have are shooting scenes that feel like POV chapters. Perfect for a large ensemble cast, especially with multiple dragonseeds now in the mix!
4:56 the way Ulf immediately pivots to "hail to the king!" mode after his storytelling had me rolling. Also very effecient character building
you are awsome. Thanks David for this videos!
Awesome video. Thanks David.
Hugh as champion of the people and then the 'history' bweing a smear campaign from elistist monmarchists would eb top tier.
I need them to work in the line, "Please Hammer don't hurt 'em."
I can't wait for Bold Jon Roxton
Great video. Just subscribed to your channel. Pretty cool. Thanks for sharing 👍.
Another banger Lightbringer!
Loyal Addam 😢😢
Yesss thank you for making this can’t wait to listen.. I’m rusty on my the reading but I just found my copy funnily enough
Corlys successor also have a surviving problem as well not just being sailor.
Been waiting on this one. Lets do it!🎉
I can't wait to see Silverwing!
This intro is pumping me up making me move around on my chair makes me spinn!
Hugh The Hammer and Sickle with his Red Dragon *Game of Thrones theme(Soviet version) start playing*
Great video!
Best Dragonseed video ive seen 💪
Are they going to omit Nettles from the show? That would be a huge mistake.
No they are not
I can see them having Alys Rivers coming up with the Hammer prophecy, she tells Daemon and then Daemon tells Rhaenyra/the dragon seeds after meeting up with them at Kingslanding.
A lot of the bad deeds accounted to Hugh will probably be done by Ulf who lies about his name in some manner to get Hugh to catch the blame (or something like that)
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Great video! 👏Cant wait for your Dragon dream video💚
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OMG Ertac Altinoz's art of Jon Roxton slipping in Hugh Hammer's entrails is more fun than a fireworks display! I'm feelin' the same gory glory as I did watching Evil Dead II.
I like the idea of Dragon Dreams coming from the dragons themselves. Both Bran & Jon had very symbolic visions (wolf dreams) & it would make sense that a dragon communicating telepathically would be similar since animals don't have language the way humans do. Dream Logic is symbolic not literal. Niiiice. 👍
Great video but just a quick note about pronunciation because I saw that you're putting in corrections. "Celtigar" has a hard C sound like "crimson", "caterpillar" and "cat" not a soft C sound like "city" and "cent".
For reference, the Celtigars of Claw Isle are referred to by name in House of the Dragon Season 1 episode 10 at approximately the 21 minute mark by Maester Gerardys.
I just opened up UA-cam for the first time today and, imagine my utter joy when my notifications said ‘David Lightbringer has released a new video!’ Woohoo!I haven’t even begun watching the video yet, but I had to leave a comment because I am SO excited to hear your take on the Dragonseeds on HOTD! Let’s goooooooooo!
this is a fun one
@@DavidLightbringer Loved it!
Excellent video. Hopefully Nettles will show up in S3.
The Dragonseed stuff's really interesting (obviously) but I'd love to hear your theories about the Tavern Wench (Dana? Diana?) who flinches and takes a deep breath when Ulf slaps her backside - she's the serving girl that Aegon uh...treated in a way which caused Alicent to give her a bag of coin and send her away.
This raises a number of questions to me -
1. What happened to the coin? The bag, even if it's silver not gold, looked like enough for her to live off for a very long time as a peasant, if not buy the tavern outright (and she doesn't seem like the owner). The easy answer is she was robbed, but there are a lot of more interesting answers.
2. Why is she working in a Tavern Aegon seems to frequent? It seems like, even if she needed a job for whatever reason, she'd look elsewhere the first time her attacker came in given that she (entirely understandably) doesn't seem to have 'gotten over it' judging by her controlled trauma reaction to being touched from behind.
3. Why did she serve him? Again, even if she's the tavern owner, or stuck working there, surely someone else would've been willing to give the King his drinks?
Talking about it with my friend, we came up with two main possibilities - that, despite how it appears, she's the owner/bought it for her family and has just had to learn to tolerate the King coming in because it's not like she can ban him.
Or that she was recruited by Alicent's handmaid into the White Worm's network, and now works in the Tavern the nobles like to slum it in as an asset who will recognise important people from the palace and know how to act in a way that sets them at ease and doesn't draw attention.
I'm excited to see how the writers will make Hugh to be a very different character compare to what we see in the book. It might touch the issue of People's power vs the corrupt power of the monarchy
always nice to see Frank the Tank on his way to Home Depot or Bed Bath and Beyond
1:26 small correction: Aegon and his sisters didn't conquer all of Westeros. They failed to conquer Dorne.
They already kind of explained what happened to Laenor. On episode 3, Seasmoke is restless like he never was before according to Rhaenyra. To me this is pretty clear "oh, Laenor died offscreen".
no point in keeping an actor alive on the show for no reason when the moment actually called for him to die....
@@last7509 You mean they should've killed him onscreen? Not sure, I actually like what they did considering how far they went to stablish that Rhaenyra is a "good" people. If they made her as ambitious as the rest of the lot, like in the book, then maybe. But THIS Rhaenyra they've stablished woudn't do it.
Thank you 😊
You laugh when talking about the many human characters dying during the dance. Yet when talking about the younger dragon trying to get his grandpa dragon to get up …THEN you express sadness (of sorts) 🤣🤣🤣
How we all love the dragons ❣️🤭🤭
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great breakdown
NGL Bro, I actively disliked this new tune you gave us (maybe immaturely because I fw the other two so hard) but it's DEFINITELY growing on me. I've had to restart this vid a few times (ADHD distractions) and the last time, I found myself bobbing along vigorously to the intro music. Ya got me with ya bright wizardry!
music is weird like that sometimes thanks for not hating it haha
@@DavidLightbringer Shiiiet thanks for making it. We got 3 bangers now.
Looking forward to the big dream video!
Praise Garth. I was getting bored at work.
Corlys most likely fathered Hull boys during his marriage - if it was before, there would be no need to hide them. Also, actors are younger than Laenor currently is (though, of this show love to cast younger actors to play people much older - look at Aemond, Aegon, Helaena, Alicent and Mysaria).
Laenor must have really disliked the life of royalty, because I don’t think I could give up a bond with such a beautiful beast to live a life of anonymity
Praise Garth
It'd be awesome to see the isle of faces
I’d be really pissed if they don’t resolve Laynor. His parents deserve that after their loyalty to someone they think killed him.
bet he reappears after next episode....
@@last7509 I really hope so, even if only to resolve it. I want his mom to see him.
Tom Bennett was hilarious as “The Nonce” on Ricky Gervais’ Netflix dramedy After Life. He’s only in a handful of scenes so his part is more of a glorified cameo, but hilarious nonetheless. To see him in this role is awesome, going to be interesting to see how the Dragonseeds’ storylines play out in this show
intro scared me out of my sleep one time 😭
I see a lot of comments about differences between the books (main series later seasons, aside). Remember, the books are narrations. And often times narrators are biased and unreliable. As for Hugh, I think he is setting up for his book character, sort of.
That intro rocks
I like to think Allyn being Corlys bastard now could mean that cannibal and him are bonded making his funeral epic
I say bring on the rando's, nice to see they have introduced some of the seeds, but will we see any or many of the other, less fortunate dragonseeds?
Silver Denys, RIP
I appreciate the Nimble Dick reference being I am rereading FOC rn 😂🤙
I don't like the idea that Corlys cheated on Rhaenys. They were Madly in love. Only competent couple on the show. Only adults in the room.
While I don't like the idea that House Velaryon is now a dragonriding house because it means other Velaryons should've gone missing trying to claim Vhagar among other things.
I at least prefer the idea that before Corlys and Rhaenys were married that Corlys had them.
In all truthfulness I think that Addam is Laenor's son, as Laenor hints he's been with women before to Rhaenyra and that's how he knows he's gay. But the actors are on the older side for them to be going that way.
They both have same mother, the writers can’t make us believe that she gave birth to sons from Father and Son. Secondly, the actors they cast are too old to be from Leanor’s. Lastly but most importantly for you, it’s best to believe he had them before he married Rhaenys.
when I read the books I thought maybe they were Laenor trying to "go straight" and then in season 1 that seemed hinted at, but they are way too old. They gotta be Corlys's
@@DavidLightbringer Totally 💯 he did say that he doesn’t like goose very well 😃
Of course he cheated man. what’s wrong with males in this generation? Men are like dandelions, we spread our seed far and wide, even when we love someone. Y’all don’t live in the real world, you probably never been in danger or never gotten punched in the face. Wake up
12:50 If ya smellllllllalalala, what the Ro, oh, that’s just the sewage from King’s Landing.
Honestly Laenor dying offscreen was my assumption from the moment he was revealed to have survived. He was already set up as having an insatiable lust for battle, it would if anything be weird if he _didnt_ go join some sellsword company in Essos and die in battle
moar like hugh hammer and sickle amirite?
Having just rewatched s1 again after the dragon seeds, I believe Ulf may have been the guy Rhaenyra bumps into that tells her to piss off boy whilst she's out on the town with Daemon... anyone else?
Just had an idea where the prophecy about the hammer. What if after they take kings landing, he is just around heleana in the castle, and she says the line, and it gets him thinking. Perhaps she says other things that he sees come true as well and he starts to believe it.
I just don’t understand why the writers would go out of the way to change up from the book and NOT kill off Laenor, only to kill him offscreen. What would be the point of that?
To make Rhae seem not as bloodthirsty
Because the book is not the truest account. The show is. The book is told from 3 perspectives its rumor and speculation with truth sprinkled in
@@Covers-and-Commentary HOTD is ONLY fully canon to GOT. There are somethings that can be carried over due to not conflicting with stuff like the Song of Ice and Fire Prophecy from Aegon. BUT there are many things from the show that completely don't match up with book canon. Fire and Blood isn't supposed to be "untrue" Fire and Blood when it comes to the Dance of Dragons is a "choose your own adventure" book. Fire and Blood gives you 2 to 3 versions of what could have happened and it lets the reader choose. In theory you could have one reader who interprets Fire and Blood with Daemon being a faithful and mostly honorable member of House Targaryen and another reader who interprets Fire and Blood with Daemon being completely and fully evil.
Exactly. This is why I believe he will turn up after hearing what happens to his mom and do something ill-advised and then perish
IMO they didn't want us to hate Team Black too early in the show so they let him live. 🤷🏼
Didn’t realize that was Father, I loved RBW