Fourth Kawanakajima Wargame

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • In this episode, Little Wars TV takes you back to feudal Japan for one of the largest, bloodiest battles of the samurai era--Fourth Kawanakajima. Steve and Zach meditate in a Japanese garden, where they try to divine the true intentions of Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin. Was Shingen's Woodpecker plan a masterful maneuver or a classic blunder?
    Then, back at the club, four players fight the wargame on an incredible 8'x6' tabletop with 6mm miniatures and the rules "Killer Katanas 2" by On Military Matters. Can Takeda Shingen repeat his great victory, or will Uesugi Kenshin smash his enemies on the banks of the river before it's too late? Try to rewrite Japanese history with us this week on Little Wars TV!
    Visit www.LittleWarsT... for bonus content, including a free copy of the scenario played in this video. And check back on UA-cam next week for the "Killer Katanas 2" rule review and two bonus historical tours!
    If you're a fellow history geek and enjoy what we do here, please subscribe, leave us a comment below, and let your other history-minded friends know where to find us! Sharing our videos is one of the best ways you can help us grow this channel.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 125

  • @kevinfischer8647
    @kevinfischer8647 5 років тому +344

    Our men are running from the battlefield! Shameful display!

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +118

      Haha it's the best. I cannot overstate how many times that exact line was uttered during the play of this game....

    • @kevinfischer8647
      @kevinfischer8647 5 років тому +57

      @@LittleWarsTV
      I see I am not the only one who plays Total War then.

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +86

      Kevin Fischer The Total War games are some of our members favorites for the PC. Were it not for copyright concerns, this video would have been full of music and sound effects from those games!

    • @kevinfischer8647
      @kevinfischer8647 5 років тому +2

      @@LittleWarsTV I am sure they do not mind.

    • @kamikaziu
      @kamikaziu 5 років тому +12

      Shamefur dispray

  • @TheMudKip-ff2tb
    @TheMudKip-ff2tb 4 роки тому +140

    “You’re not a samurai, you’re a lawyer!”
    “That’s why I know you’re not gonna sue me.”

  • @iagoofdraiggwyn98
    @iagoofdraiggwyn98 5 років тому +82

    When youve played shogun 2 and finally know all of the factions and generals.

  • @makdaddi3921
    @makdaddi3921 5 років тому +37

    “...the peckers showed up and we were forced to flee.” We’ve all either used that line... or heard that line before.

  • @davemack1026
    @davemack1026 5 років тому +70

    The Hats, and shirts sold it. Good Video

    • @davemack1026
      @davemack1026 5 років тому +2

      @@IronIvanKeith Thats funny. Us game nerds must stick together.

    • @tunneler9967
      @tunneler9967 3 роки тому

      Ahhh yes...The Weeabu wargame.

  • @spartankun2572
    @spartankun2572 5 років тому +25

    I love that all the Japanese at the beginning was just listing off different WWII vessels lol

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +14

      YOU ARE THE WINNER! Steve was taking wagers on how long it would take for someone to notice what he was saying in the opening. Well done!

  • @alistairbain6149
    @alistairbain6149 4 роки тому +10

    Love the ‘Princess Bride’ allusion 😄

  • @davidhorkoff902
    @davidhorkoff902 5 років тому +33

    Love the haiku at the start! The IJN ship names really propel it into the realm of brilliant! Haiku on top of haiku, very meta.

  • @jacobblanton5179
    @jacobblanton5179 4 роки тому +17

    I have never heard of Kawanakajima being considered a defeat for Uesugi, usually it is considered somewhat of a draw. Pretty sure the Woodpecker general committed a suicide assault in penance for his failed stategem during the fight, being shot dozens of times and collapsing to finally die on a hill nearby. He barely made it to the field as Kenshin was absolutely slaughtering Takeda.
    Both sides saw serious casualties and deaths of major commanders(IIRC especially Takeda, who lost relatives) in what should have been a Takeda landslide. Pretty sure Kenshin also stopped Takeda's ambitions to advance further north forever with this fight, making it a clear strategic victory for the Uesugi overall

  • @DG-ky2cu
    @DG-ky2cu 5 років тому +45

    Fantastic show and game. I know nothing about this period, so this episode has been informative and entertaining. Great stuff guys, keep up the good work. We love this.

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +6

      Thanks, Duc! Guys in our club have a lot of diverse interests, so we wanted our videos to cover a wide range of eras. So many conflicts to wargame, so little time to game them all....

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures 5 років тому +45

    A great looking game on a fantastic terrain...Most impressive close ups on the armies...and gorgeous hats btw!😊

  • @michaelnewbanks2569
    @michaelnewbanks2569 5 років тому +26

    Another great wargame guys! Keep it up! Your quickly becoming my favorite war game channel on youtube. You've already got me re basing my 15mm armies on 40mm x 40mm for Age of Hannibal, and i'm looking at 10mm and 6mm armies to start collecting.

    • @Pengi_SMILES
      @Pengi_SMILES 5 років тому +5

      Because of Little Wars videos I've bought both of Greg's rulesets featured in the videos 😂 I have no regrets.

    • @talesfromshedhq5208
      @talesfromshedhq5208 5 років тому

      @@Pengi_SMILES me too

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +1

      That's awesome, love to hear it! The rules are extremely basing and scale flexible.

  • @sachinbangaru737
    @sachinbangaru737 3 роки тому +3

    James Clevel’s shogun was sooo good

  • @jamesdc9595
    @jamesdc9595 2 місяці тому +1

    You can see that Greg realized the tags were still on his Pokémon shirt during the last few turns as it disappears on the end of game recap

  • @brunneng38
    @brunneng38 5 років тому +4

    JR Bob Dobbs T-shirt! Awesome.

    • @GuyInnagorillasuit
      @GuyInnagorillasuit 5 років тому +1

      Praise "Bob"!

    • @brunneng38
      @brunneng38 5 років тому +1

      GuyInnagorillasuit Don’t just eat a hamburger, eat the hell out of it!

  • @nienienie7567
    @nienienie7567 5 років тому +13

    I must say I envy you guys. You have a tight crew that's always down to play those cool historics scenarios just for fun and i never see any salt in anyones behaviour. Where i live we have a huge tournament scene for WH40K and it's all cool but there's very little chill, it's impossible to find someone if you want to just chill and play and the historic scene is bunch of salty trolls so i can eithar have a competetive experience or none at all. I really envy that, i think it's wonderfull and unique and you should cherish that :D oh and also you have so many minis for different eras and so many systems - that's great :D !!

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +4

      Thanks--we are quite fortunate here and luckily everyone in the club knows it! That being said, we've purposely cultivated a group of more relaxed gamers who are not 'tournament driven' or ppwer gamers or rules lawyers.

  • @bigremy4569
    @bigremy4569 5 років тому +46

    hentai shirt killed me XD keep up the amazing videos boys, would love to see more American civil war, or possibly lesser known wars, I always thought war of the triple alliance would be amazing for 6mm, you could use civil war miniatures and some of the battles in that war were intense and absolutely barbaric!

  • @smilingbadger6209
    @smilingbadger6209 3 роки тому +2

    I play most of my games with counters and blocks. The rare times I get to push figures is at game conventions.

  • @zargonfuture4046
    @zargonfuture4046 5 років тому +5

    Very good narration and wonderful little (big game) game

  • @batesmt25
    @batesmt25 5 років тому +6

    Too funny 😀. Another great presentation. Thanks, Mitch

  • @NoobNoobNews
    @NoobNoobNews 2 роки тому +2

    The battlefield sounds to be really small if Kenshin could not defeat Shingen in a pitch battle before the mountain soldiers arrived. ususally such isolation would have been fatal.

  • @faithf8867
    @faithf8867 3 роки тому +2

    OK, so maybe a little late to the discussion here, could the Age of Hannibal rules be adjusted to suit this period? In the same way Warmaster Historical is a generic system used in Fantasy, Ancient and Mediaeval.

    • @davidbest4908
      @davidbest4908 3 роки тому

      Age Of Hannibal is based on the Chipco Fantasy rules. They also published Chrysanthemum Throne which is for the Sengoku Jidai period. The rules are very similar and have some fun things in them. I use them for my Samurai battles.

  • @cadjebushey6524
    @cadjebushey6524 3 роки тому +1

    Its nice to see a Samurai game. Fuedal japan games seem kinda rare compared to ww2 or American civil war games.

  • @jaredmolberg7125
    @jaredmolberg7125 Рік тому +1

    I am very much late in the game on this channel and I’m playing catch up. You guys look like you’re having the best time. I love this channel.

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  Рік тому

      Never too late to join in the fun, Jared!

  • @Xth3Z
    @Xth3Z 9 місяців тому +1

    It was a close call for the Takeda, for sure.
    Their initial plan was not bad and made sense.
    But it didn't really factor in that Kenshin also was a very good strategist and able to pull off such moves.
    Therefore, the Takeda should have closely kept surveillance on the Uesugi forces, to react quickly, if they moved themselves.
    A contingency plan for such an occasion should also have been put in place and agreed before the start of their initial maneuver.
    The losses in this wargame also came very close to the estimated losses of the real battle, with Takeda losing ~4,000 and Uesugi ~3,000 men historically.
    As a sidenote:
    It was not the bloodiest samurai battle.
    This title most likely goes to Sekigahara, which was the largest samurai battle with over 160.000 warriors involved. The lowest estimates of killed warriors start at 12,000 for that battle, going all the way up to over 40,000.

  • @jeffhess4650
    @jeffhess4650 4 роки тому +2

    Hmmmm, Did Greg think that leaving the tag on his Pokemon would allow him to get return it after the video and get his money back?

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  4 роки тому +1

      Maybe. And if so, he was wrong....

  • @B.Huntley_Sharpe
    @B.Huntley_Sharpe 5 років тому +10

    This is the second video I have watched on your channel. In both, cotton master Zach has worked his cloud magic in creation of beautiful fog of gunsmoke. Does he plan to demonstrate his art in a forthcoming video? Or is it to remain a carefully guarded trade secret?

    • @GuyInnagorillasuit
      @GuyInnagorillasuit 5 років тому +4

      That's not a bad idea. For a period of time we mocked Zach's attentiveness to fluffing the cotton "just so" and would would summon him to place cotton with the call of "cotton boy!"
      But one day he impressed us so much with his artful teasing out of the cotton balls that Steve (if I recall correctly) promoted him. Ever since that fateful day Zach has been a cottonsman, no more a cotton boy.

  • @djcartoonspecial298
    @djcartoonspecial298 3 роки тому +2

    Miniatures please?

  • @redmist1122
    @redmist1122 5 років тому +4

    Gents...that was super awesome! I've only played one Feudal Japanese type game, and that was with the Taiko rule system from Flagship[ Games. I'm sure in your next week rules review, you will unveil the issues with these rules and others? Again great stuff!!!

  • @sillycelt5356
    @sillycelt5356 5 років тому +6

    18:40 "Its bad" LOL

  • @natewatts195
    @natewatts195 3 роки тому +1

    Do more of these!

  • @hangarflying
    @hangarflying 5 років тому +14

    Curse you and your awesome inspiring videos.

  • @smilingbadger6209
    @smilingbadger6209 3 роки тому +2

    You guys are awesome. I just recently discovered your game play and watch at least one a day. I wish I could join you in a game.

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  3 роки тому +1

      So glad you found us on here! Welcome to the club!

  • @TonyAguilarFigure-atively
    @TonyAguilarFigure-atively 5 років тому +2

    Cool video. I based my Peter Pig 15mm Samurai army on Kenshin's army from this battle. I recognized the radish banner of one of the units. I am not a fan of 6mm but you guys did a great job with the units and their basing. Love the "Pecker-talk." 🤣

  • @stephenbobby6715
    @stephenbobby6715 5 років тому +5

    you guys do a great job

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +1

      Thank you, Stephen! We try to put together the best wargame AARs we possibly can and it's nice to know other people out there are enjoying them.

  • @ThePsychopath13
    @ThePsychopath13 5 років тому +2

    Surprised I hadn't heard of you sooner! Just happened to see a friend post this video and thought I'd check it out, damn awesome! Will admit, I prefer full wargame reports, rather than summaries, but this was still a great watch!

    • @Pengi_SMILES
      @Pengi_SMILES 5 років тому

      Check out the other videos. They are doing a damn fine job.

  • @NoMuse13
    @NoMuse13 5 років тому +3

    Another highly entertaining video!

  • @11jamsus
    @11jamsus 5 років тому +5

    This video is something really wonderful. The passion you transmit for this hobby is crazy, congratulations again. I would like to ask if there is a website or link were we can admire all those models you used for this battle

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, Andrea. We do have a website, www.LittleWarsTV.com, but there are not a ton of photos on the site. We will try to a better job in the future taking photos of the armies being used in each game. This is an excellent idea!

  • @Vall112
    @Vall112 3 роки тому +1

    Where was this shot? Looks like the Fort Worth, TX Japanese Gardens

  • @DAMitAlI
    @DAMitAlI 2 роки тому

    I love the look of this scale. I wish my friends enjoyed war games. The closest I can get them into is games like Star Wars legion, and that’s only because it’s Star Wars and they entertain my desire while I prepare for the next D&D campaign.

  • @alwoodsmodellingmayhem
    @alwoodsmodellingmayhem 5 років тому +3

    Enjoyed another great video guys.

  • @NeoConNET7
    @NeoConNET7 5 років тому +1

    21:55 Hillarious! Battle of Little Big Horn?

  • @djcartoonspecial298
    @djcartoonspecial298 4 роки тому +3

    I wanna know what kind of miniatures are that 😭

  • @generalsemyon2369
    @generalsemyon2369 Рік тому

    I just realized after 3 years that this battle is on the 18th of october, wich is my birthday

  • @BlugrassPickr012211
    @BlugrassPickr012211 5 років тому +2

    Excellent table! Any plans to show how the recesses and rivers are made? They look fantastic!

  • @BlueSamura1
    @BlueSamura1 5 років тому +6

    This was awesome keep up the good work would like to see some Napoleonic wars

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +3

      Thanks, Caesar. Napoleonics are just around the corner...

  • @yochitoranaga
    @yochitoranaga 5 років тому +4

    eh, I've heard of james clavel's shogun tv series. I ended reading the book it's based on :D

  • @Kili121416
    @Kili121416 5 років тому +1

    Great game guys.

  • @particle7246
    @particle7246 2 роки тому

    Could food, sleep, etc. (necessities) be added to the soldiers? 🤔

  • @PaulMclauchlin
    @PaulMclauchlin 5 років тому +3

    Outstanding video, this shows the best of what wargaming can be, well done gentlemen. Quick question, what company/companies are the manufacturer of the figures?

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +3

      Paul McLauchlin All the figures are from Baccus 6mm, and they paint up great!

    • @PaulMclauchlin
      @PaulMclauchlin 5 років тому +1

      @@LittleWarsTV Thank you.

  • @elbowsanchez
    @elbowsanchez 4 роки тому +1

    FEEL THE POWER!!!

  • @acsmith70325
    @acsmith70325 5 років тому +1

    Enjoyed very much!

  • @markussharaput9611
    @markussharaput9611 Місяць тому

    May I ask where you got the castle terrain piece, please?

  • @mollytyson1169
    @mollytyson1169 5 років тому +2

    Interesting game. I have always been interested in this topic at this scale. How many figures did you need to wargame this battle?

  • @travisdralle1227
    @travisdralle1227 2 роки тому +2

    The Dobbs shirt was better

  • @gringofett3944
    @gringofett3944 4 роки тому +1

    The shirts.....

  • @marcellocolombarini1653
    @marcellocolombarini1653 5 років тому +1

    Great work👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎌

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +2

      Thank you, Marcello! Much more to come!

  • @nyanates
    @nyanates 5 років тому +1

    This story would make a great movie. Enjoyed the vid! Thx!

  • @talesfromshedhq5208
    @talesfromshedhq5208 5 років тому +2

    Best one yet chaps. Loved it!!! You mentioned in an earlier video that you are working on a version of AoF for this period, are you still working on that?

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +1

      Steve is, but no timetable for release at this point. Right now he’s working on an upcoming series of vids for the channel on a new aspect of the hobby he dove into recently. Look for that in the next month or two!

    • @talesfromshedhq5208
      @talesfromshedhq5208 5 років тому

      @@LittleWarsTV sounds intriguing. Look forward to it

  • @anthonybonacci6618
    @anthonybonacci6618 2 роки тому

    y'al trippin the gas station sushi in japan is a bop. Convienie fish FTW

  • @Roman-ey3yi
    @Roman-ey3yi 5 років тому +1

    God i love this channel. Are you guys going to do 15mm napoleonics at some point?

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому

      Our final episode of the season is a truly massive Napoleonic game. I think you'll find it's just what you're looking for!

  • @MCK3274
    @MCK3274 2 роки тому

    What’s the drink of choice?

  • @rileyosteen6470
    @rileyosteen6470 2 роки тому +3

    THE ENEMY IS RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD. SHAMEFUL DISPLAY.

  • @thomashazlewood4658
    @thomashazlewood4658 5 років тому +2

    This is the third Little Wars video I've watched in which the initial planning was tossed aside to poor result. “Once you have made up your mind, stick to it; there no longer any ‘if’ or ‘but’.” - Napoleon Bonaparte

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +3

      A great observation. Clearly, we are lacking some Napoleons in this club!

  • @filipzietek5146
    @filipzietek5146 2 роки тому

    Whats up with american's crushing inability to process any kind of raw fish, meat or egg?

  • @joshuaanderson9938
    @joshuaanderson9938 3 роки тому +3

    Anime in the streets hentai in the sheets. Nice

  • @steveholmes11
    @steveholmes11 4 роки тому +1

    Everything is better with hats.

  • @raybarron316
    @raybarron316 3 роки тому +1

    Belushi reincarnate!

  • @stevehojnacki2836
    @stevehojnacki2836 5 років тому +1

    Where is the castle from?

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому

      Steve Hojnacki, I cant remember the exact manufacturer, but it is one of the many Japanese made plastic model kits put out of a large selection of Japanese castles. They tend to be in scales from 1/500 - 1/800, which is perfect as a piece of terrain for 6mm “big battles.”

  • @glendaoreilly748
    @glendaoreilly748 3 роки тому +1

    Is it just me or does Steve look like an upside down pineapple

  • @talesfromshedhq5208
    @talesfromshedhq5208 5 років тому +1

    Another quick question will you be reviewing Banzai (Age of the Country at War) 3rd Edition? I'd be interested in your thoughts

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +1

      Tales from Shed HQ, we just received a copy of Banzai from the author, and do plan on doing a review. It may be a little bit before it hits the channel, though. We insist on playing a ruleset several times before a review, and we already have a handful of other rule sets (from other periods) in line for reviews first. So many rules, so little time!

    • @talesfromshedhq5208
      @talesfromshedhq5208 5 років тому

      Little Wars TV great be interested in your opinions. I’m guessing 60mm x 30mm will be the norm for any future Rules from Steve?

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +1

      Tales from Shed HQ, yes, the rules use 60x30mm basing as the default, but really any base size that has a 2:1 width to depth ratio would work just fine.

  • @sirus976
    @sirus976 5 років тому +1

    hey greg how does that anima shirt fell hahahaha P.S your channel is awsome

  • @rustybuttshoe6312
    @rustybuttshoe6312 Рік тому

    Keith just out and says it lol

  • @davelee6002
    @davelee6002 5 років тому +1

    Loved everything about this video but the cartoonish fake japanese noises you guys were making at the end.

  • @jamesgeorge7579
    @jamesgeorge7579 5 років тому +1

    First

  • @oneMeVz
    @oneMeVz 5 років тому +1

    Where is that garden really?
    And the butchering of Japanese pronunciation ... horrible.

    • @LittleWarsTV
      @LittleWarsTV  5 років тому +3

      The garden is an incredible venue in Fairmont Park, Philadelphia. Our "Shofuso Teahouse Tour" video has a lot more information about the gardens. Highly recommended for anyone visiting the region, and a much more authentic experience than our comical Japanese language skills.

    • @mcguirecrsr
      @mcguirecrsr 5 років тому

      @@LittleWarsTV, dang it! I was sure that was the Garden of Peace at the Museum of the Pacific War/Nimitz Museum in Fredericksburg, TX. (Extra bonus if you go there on a holiday: WWII reenactors with BARs and live flamethrowers and such. Great fun! And I'm not just pimping for central Texas, since you toured the Alamo (a.k.a. downtown San Antoino); I'm really just pining for German food.)