I didn't realize that calling your opponent's scripture-based argument "silly" meant that you instantly win! Well done CSC, bravo 👏 it just shows you that it is impossible to defend a lie when you are up against the truth. Pray for that man
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert The Problem with Anthony is that he makes up claims as if he is an authority. For example, he made the claim the Hebrew word פֶּ֠לֶא (pe·le)/Wonderful is a divine title only given to God. However, we have scriptures such as Ps 139:14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made (נִ֫פְלֵ֥יתִי (nip̄·lê·ṯî). Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. The writer of this Psalms says the HE is wonderfully made which discounts this word is not a divine title. Also, 2 Samuel 1:26 I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me; your love to me was extraordinary (נִפְלְאַ֤תָה (nip̄·lə·’a·ṯāh) , surpassing the love of women. Here David calls Jonathan wonderful and obviously, he doesn't direct this to God like Anthony claims. Isaiah 9:6, Judges 13:18, 2 Sam 1:26 and Ps 139:14 just to start with come from the same root word פ־ל־א pe-le and are all linked to the idea of extraordinariness or marvel. Anthony just lied and hasn't actually studied the pattern on how this word is used and there are other verses too that use this word.
@@ljnouata9088 Sam Shoumon and Albert are scared of Greg. They hung up on him when they tried to challenge him. I think Anthony is light weight compared to Greg Stafford
@@yahuhallah1259 for sure brother. Have you seen his “discussion” with Kelly Powers? He’s also a Trinitarian. interesting viewing. It’s on Kelly’s YT channel.
@@ljnouata9088 Yeah I was on Kelly’s channel debating Colossians 1:15-20 he wasn’t ready for that discussion. I’ve spoke to Kelly a few times and debunked him regarding exodus 3:14 trying to connect to John 8:58 and he still used the same arguments after being debunked 🤦🏻♂️
The Unitarian perspective on the resurrection of Jesus aligns with the position that He did not resurrect Himself; rather, His statements regarding resurrection were metaphorical in nature. It can be argued that Jesus expressed profound faith in God the Father, which allowed Him to articulate such claims. Following the event of the resurrection, it is noteworthy to observe that Jesus is seldom credited with resurrecting Himself; instead, the resurrection is consistently attributed to God the Father. Relevant biblical passages, including Romans 4:24, 8:11, Acts 5:30, 2 Corinthians 13:4, Colossians 2:12, Galatians 1:1, etc. highlight the role of God the Father in this event. The absence of any claim of self-resurrection in the New Testament epistles further reinforces the understanding of Jesus' meaning. This omission indicates that the resurrection was viewed as an act of divine intervention rather than a self-initiated event by Jesus, thus supporting the assertion that His belief in God was foundational to the resurrection narrative.
So when Jesus says HE will raise himself up means God is the one raising him up? Do you see how you are proving that Jesus claimed to be God by doing that which only God can do, or him being the God that raised himself up??? You Unitarians are id10tz.
@@solascriptura1536 Yes, Jesus said "tear down this temple and in three days I will raise it up". This is figurative speech Jesus was using just like in Luke 8:48 when Jesus told a woman her faith healed her was it her faith or was the source from God in light of Acts 10:38? In addition to that, it's typical Biblical language where it shows someone will do something and they actually didn't. For example, John 3:22 it says HE (Jesus) remained with them and was baptizing. Did Jesus do any baptizing? Not according to John 4:2 where it says Jesus did not baptize it was his disciples. In the same manner Jesus said he will resurrect himself but in light of how the disciples viewed it he did not raise himself it was his faith in his God and Father that resurrected Jesus. Why can't we find any of disciples or the epistles saying Jesus resurrect himself? Shouldn't that be important?
@@yahuhallah1259 Jesus is speaking from HIS perspective, his point of view, from his own knowledge. They are speaking from THEIR point of view and perspective. HE lays down his life and HE takes it up again because he IS God. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. John 1:33 The disciples baptized with water, Jesus baptized with the Holy Ghost, big difference. John is focusing on the water/physical baptism, which is why he says Christ baptized with them but excludes him when referring to the actual baptism by water. You cannot read the Bible like it is the Quran. You don't just take a verse in isolation, you look at the bigger picture abdool.
@@solascriptura1536 Excellent, now show me AFTER Jesus was resurrected the apostles and the epistles understood the way you understood that Jesus raised himself? What text can you share?
John…. As it was literally written after 🤦🏽♂️…. Idk if you know this but John wasn’t quoting Jesus literally as he was saying it before he went to the cross. All of this was written after so your question is irrelevant
Your correct it never gets olds does it? What's a shocker is Albert has about 545 videos that were made in the past 2 years so "Why Can't Trinitarian Apologists Answer This Question?" If you notice non-trinitarian arguments have gotten better and better while trinitarian arguments are non-existent (witch might explain why this is a reaction channel). Take the question for begotten for example: "If God the Father is unbegotten and the Son of God is begotten then what does that make the Holy Spirit?" 1.mleo2003 trinitarian claims: "God the Father begets God the Son. What is begotten is the same nature as that which begot it. Conclusion: Father and Son share the same Nature. That nature is the Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature. The Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature cannot be split. Conclusion: They both possess the same Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature. Any persons who possess the Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature are properly God.' === Side note: God the Father is self-existent but the Son of God is ONLY pre-existent based off the fact he was "begotten/ brought forth" by God the Father. This mean the Father has an essence of self-existents while the Son has a essences of pre-existents witch mean they don't have singular common same essence witch this disproves the doctrine of the Trinity. Second: God the Father added the nature of man to the Son through means of the creation to complete the personhood of his Son Jesus. This again showing us that the Son divinity alone was not enough to in the eyes of the Father and though the creation the additional essences was needed for the Sons completion. === 2. solascriptura1536 trinitarian claims: "Because being begotten has nothing to do with being created or being born. God is not created-He proceeds forth from eternity." I conceded nothing because nowhere in that verse does it speak of the Son being dead or inanimate before receiving life. He GRANTED the Son to have life in himself, meaning the Son was already in existence before receiving that life." === Side note: This trinitarian is taking a moldiest view by collapsing the distinct personhoods into one God and claiming "eternity" was able to confine God until God was able to "proceeds forth from eternity" positioning eternity to be begetter of then God. This is a classic case of how trinitarian try to use eternity to measure God by making eternity their God. Secondly this trinitarian while making the claim God "proceeds forth from eternity" as his beginning can not explain where God goes next after being brought forth. Insinuating there is a second plaice that is able to confine equaled to that of eternity that is separate from eternity that can confine God. Thirdly this trinitarian shows that the Father and Son are not of equal essences because "God the Father GRANTED the Son to have life in himself" meaning that the life the Son had is not his own but was GIVEN to him witch contradicts the trinitarians following claim of the Son bringing self-existent. All one has to ask is "what was the son BEFORE the God the Father gives him life?" The are plenty more logical contradiction I could go into but I will stop here, lol. === 3. Albert trinitarian claims: "Unbegotten means unique/ only/ etc. We’ve had this conversation before. I kno you like to keep getting beat but atleast try to remember nothing you have brought changes the facts." (next video later) Albert trinitarian claims: "Which is why when I showed you Hebrews 11 and Issac being called Abram’s only begotten son it doesn’t have to do with birth. But that he’s unique." (and videos later) Albert: And yes He became the spirit of life through the resurrection as from His death and resurrection we have eternal life not that that’s when He was formed lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 === Side note: 1 Corinthians 15:45: "Just as it is written: the first man Adam became a living soul, the last Adam became a life-giving spirit." Jesus BECAME a life-giving spirit, meaning there was a point in time where Jesus was not a life-giving spirit. More importantly, this points to the fact that Jesus has a point of beginning, unlike God the Father, who again is self-existent. God the Father was not granted life by anyone or anything and has always been a life-giving spirit. God the Father is self-existent. That is why He has life in Himself. Jesus, on the other hand, is non-self-existent and was granted life by the Father. This is why God the Father is unbegotten, and God the Son is begotten. John 5:26: "For just as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has given to the Son to have life in Himself." In John 5:26, the Greek word ἔδωκεν simply means "he/she/it gave" in a straightforward sense, implying an action of providing or offering something. ζωῐν refers to "life," meaning the state or essence of being alive. John 6:57: "As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me." John 6:57 tells us by what means Jesus became a life-giving spirit. It was God the Father who passed life onto Jesus so that Jesus could be the mediator of God the Father's everlasting life, by which He can provide salvation. Checklist: 1. Christ is not self-existent because He has a point of beginning (1 Corinthians 15:45). 2. Christ is given His divinity by God the Father (John 5:26 and John 6:57). 3. We know God the Father and Jesus cannot be part of a Trinity because they do not have the same essence, as shown in points 1 and 2 above. === All these guys do is contradict themselves and then give a like to each others contradictions. Then you have Albert contradicting himself! And the said truth is these are the classic example that are bread from trinitarian theology.
Isaiah 9:6 does not call Christ THE Father, it calls him everlasting Father. He is el-Gibbor THE mighty God, not A mighty God. Heretics never addresses the fact that he is given the same title as YHWH. If Jesus is A mighty God, that makes YHWH a liar because he said there is no God formed before or after him. Why do unitarians lie so much?
@AlonzoHarris235 IQRAA ya ummi: For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם: Straight from the Tanach dear pagan.
@@solascriptura1536 You can’t read. It’s in the past tense. The Son is not identified as the everlasting father in your own translation from chabad. The CHILD has already been born.
@AlonzoHarris235 Prophecy can be given in the present, past or future tenses. You are pathetic at reading the Bible. Stick to the comic section of your Quran. If the child is ALREADY born, which child was ever called the mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace? What's his name? What does his name mean?
The same comprehension problem of authority is common between Unitarians and Muslims. They say being given authority or permission is the same as being given power. The person giving authority does nothing to influence the act in question. A principal gives authority to the teacher to discipline misbehaving kids. The kids will be disciplined by the teacher, not the principal. They will interact with the teacher, not the principal. Jesus already HAD the power, he exercised his own power and not borrowed power. He was only given authority, permission, freedom to act.
@AlonzoHarris235 Don't be too presumptious with your questions, you are not that bright... 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5 The Son is giving the Father authority and permission to glorify him. Show me where giving authority and permission equals giving power...which verse?
@@solascriptura1536 Are you kidding me? He is asking the Father. The Son lost glory? I thought the Son always had glory. Is glory a necessary property to be God? Can God receive glory? He is literally saying that he doesn’t have glory at that moment.
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You’re leading your followers astray Jesus never talked about the trinity All you give is hints and riddles To make up your God Show me in the gospels where Jesus says he is the angel of the lord
You call it cocky, I call it confident...because they know they have the truth behind them. Look at what the Unitarians do to Scripture: 16 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ theπάντα ἐν inτοῖς theοὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε orκυριότητες εἴτε orἀρχαὶ εἴτε orἐξουσίαι· τὰ theπάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται· 17 καὶ αὐτὸς heἔστιν πρὸ πάντων καὶ τὰ theπάντα ἐν αὐτῷ συνέστηκεν, 16 because in him it was created all (things) heavens and upon the earth, the (things) visible and the (things) invisible, whether thrones, lordships, governments, authorities; all (things) through him and into him it has been created; 17 and before all (things) and all (things) in him it has stood together, because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him. Do you see how many times they inserted the word OTHER in their translation just so they can support their demonic doctrine? You will do well to know what Unitarianism teaches before talking presumptuously.
Jesus raised his physical body , the "temple" , the Father brought Jesus to life as his former spiritual self . Otherwise when Jesus died you're saying another Jesus was continually alive to raise the physical Jesus so you have the Father , spirit and Jesus x2 LOL No . Jesus raised the physical body to show the disciples that all he said was true.
@@yahuhallah1259 Yes because by the triune god pagan's logic the son is NOT the Father and the son DIED , so how does the dead son raise himself without the Father ?! Trinitarians are flat out stupid . I'm not being nasty it's just true , they have to put effort in to be this dim!! LOL
Exactly. The father raised Jesus giving him life as a life-giving spirit. As a life giving spirit in heaven Jesus raised his temple / “it” up appearing in it before people. Simple and no trini-nonsense.
When Jehovah speaks directly through an angel then that "angel of the Lord" will identify as Jehovah obviously . But it's not the angel himself who is YHWH , angels sometimes relay messages but sometimes God will speak directly via through them . Anthony Rogers proved nothing and said alot but said nothing , he is a clever talker that just continually makes noise , a con artist.
@@pwx13 That would be the Pagan triune god believers who copy the Babylonian blaspheming insults they have adopted . That is why you are called the harlot , mystery babylon and you aligned with the "beast" which was the Roman empire at that time .
SHUSH ! EVERYONE ! The Father alone is GOD He self exists , He's not begotten and he is the source of all things ...including the son . That is why Jesus is SON of God . THE END
"The Father alone is God" is something never once stated in the Bible. Instead, both the Father, Son, and Spirit are all identified as God and not merely divine but God in the absolute sense, hence them all being identified as Yahweh, the God of Israel. Just repeating the Unitarian script and spam up-voting your own comments doesn't prove your position. No where in the Bible does Jesus being begotten negate him being the source of all things. Christ is identified as the God who created all things in John 1:1-5 and is the source of life, he's identified as the author of life in Acts 3:15, and he is identified as the one who laid the foundations of the heavens and the earth in Hebrews 1:10-12. All of these prove Christ is the source of creation in union with the Father & Spirit. Jesus is the Son of God because he shares the same nature as his Father, which is why Colossians 2:9 says Christ possesses the FULLNESS of the divine nature. You guys don't know the Bible
@@AnotherOne-s6m A son is a caused being , the clue is Jesus being the son of .....God of which is not 3 of anything. You make up gibberish not spoken of in scripture . You are all losing , you cannot defend this pagan garbage !
@@dazzadizzy5308 Exactly what a mess, they lack basic reading comprehension. Jesus said the father is the only true God and Jesus never went on to try to make the case of a trinity, these people are demonic, if they won’t even listen to Jesus, they’re not gonna listen to anybody else, total waste of time .
@CommonSenseChristianityT You're right , even when words are shown and proven they embrace lies . I cant make out if it's stupidity or bewitchment , well it's both .
@@dazzadizzy5308 Ya the demons in them want you to argue with them to waste your time. I don’t give them much time anymore. Let them all go to hell/Gehenna. They chose it
If I was a Unitarian(thank God I’m not). I would not recommend CSC debating this topic. He’s really not good at this. His only defense is saying “not uh, it doesn’t say that” He doesn’t really give any arguments against the trinity. This conversation really showed that as well.
It showed the difference of not only someone who is way more versed in scripture but also someone way more seasoned in debate in general. I side refuted claims and tried to stick on task, one side claimed trust me bro and tried to jump every time he was answered. God bless you brother and Merry Christmas to you !
Although I agree mostly with the Unitarian I do agree with you that CSC isn't equipped to debate these matters he keeps making the same points over and over he needs a new script.
@@yahuhallah1259 Nah, I did just fine. I wouldn't have changed a thing. None of the 4 Trinitarians before Anthony had any argument on the trinity and neither did Anthony. This is why they kept interruping me. They had nothing. I am perfectly equipped to debate these matters and I bring up the same points because they are never addressed. None of them can make the case of a three person God by going to scripture and having them show you someone trying to make the case for it. I have engaged and debated hundreds of Trinitarians and none of them have been able to answer my questions. Instead of expressing your punditry in the comment section put on your big boy pants and go on and engage when 5 Trinitarians are on stage so we can all critique you and tell you how you did. Anyone can be a keyboard warrior
@CommonSenseChristianityT Oh I debated you before little buddy and you hung up on me. This is exactly what others are talking about you're not humble enough to take criticism. I was with you regarding Jesus not resurrecting himself but you did poorly because you could have asked Anthony to show you a text anywhere in the New Testament that Jesus resurrected himself *AFTER* the fact, but you dropped the ball, little buddy. Do better next time now you got this advice.
Luke 24 : 44 Then He said to them, " These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. " 24 : 27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself. 24 : 32 And they said to one another, " Did not our heart burn within us while He talked with us on the road, and while He opened the Scriptures to us?" Jesus said that Moses and all the prophets wrote concerning Himself ,as well as the Paslms; all four Gospels are written down with this knowledge of who Jesus was , is & os to come ,we can also read what the letters of Peter , James the brother of the Lord & Paul wrote of concerning Jesus with this understanding of Scripture that Jesus personally gave to them all ,& His Apostles passed this knowledge onto their disciples, the early church fathers who also wrote with this knowledge passed onto them . This is the meat of the scripture, while all the heretics including Muslims have never touched a pap let alone tasted milk . Anyone can / could bring another heretical sect with omission of Scriptures, & adding to ,& fool the gullible with a deception, lies & ignorance, yet theres a penalty for doing so , as therell be no protection in the fire that Shadrach, Meshach, & Abed - Nego had . ( of Which the the fourth form in the furnance is said to be like the Son of God by Nebuchadnezzar, who then goes onto ask " Most High God come out ,and come here." ) Peace and blessings. Merry Christmas, may your time be peaceful & filled with many blessings
I was not going to comment on this trash but Anthony is a liar!!! Ecclesiastes does not say Creators and hebrew it does not say that. Solomon wanted everyone to know about the 1 creator the Father Jesus!!! Jesus is the Father and then the son made by a woman!! Galatians 4:4!! Thats why Philip said show us the Father and Jesus says have not i been with you so long and you dont know me yet!! John 14:8-9. Ephesians 4:4-6 1 god 1 spirit one God the father!! Malachi 2:10 dont we have 1 God the Father!!!
So are these guys liars too? Cause right now the only one who doesn’t know what they’re talking about is you… John Gill’s expositor. Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, &c. Or “Creators” as “Makers,” Job 35:10 Ps 149:2 Isa 54:5; for more than one were concerned, as in the creation of all things in general, so of man in particular, Ge 1:26; and these are neither more nor fewer than three; and are Father, Son, Spirit; the one God that has created men. Jamieson, Faussett, & Brown. The Hebrew is “Creators,” plural, implying the plurality of persons, as in Ge1:26; so Hebrew, “Makers”. Matthew Henry. Remember thy Creators; the word is plural, as it is Job 35:10, Where is God my Makers? For God said, Let us make man, us, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. In the singular, the Hebrew word sounds like BOWRAY, and is Kal participle, active singular masculine from the verb BARA, to create. In the plural the Hebrew word sound like BOWREKA, and is Kal participle, active plural masculine from the verb BARA. The suffix KA is 2nd person singular masculine, hence the translation “your Creators” showing that Solomon was addressing just ONE young man in his remark. -Arthur Eedle Prophetic telegraph
@DaScripturePlug.Albert yall are adding to scripture and God says that's a no no!! Job 35:10 says maker!! Not makers lol. Pagan trash of 3 Gods!! My God is 1!! Hear o Israel your Lord God is one!!!!
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert you didn't refute anything lol. In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth!! Before the spirit or word was spoken!! And God is the Father right?!! And Jesus created all so again EVERLASTING FATHER!!!
I think anthony did well but he keeps using the idea that the son raised himself from the grave or that it is the power of god. But men can raise themselves up from the grave if God actually said it and the man believes by faith the commandment. Which is what Jesus said was a commandment from the father that no one can take his life that he can take it back as he pleases.. is a work of the power of god and the faith of the man. Still pressupposes a man because man can die and have faith ...God cant.
yep and I keep asking these Trinitarians for proof that Jesus is ever given credit raising himself after the fact and they all failed. It’s God the Father that did the actual resurrection and not Jesus himself.
@@andrebenjamin6538 No one raised themselves in the Bible including Jesus. After the fact Jesus was resurrected we never see anyone make that claim that he raised himself, not Jesus, not Paul, not Peter. It’s not in the the gospels or the epistles. We see Jesus say he would resurrect himself in John 2:19 but that’s speaking figuratively.
God created using His holy spirit , it's His power to get things done . God created THROUGH Jesus . John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. So God didnt create without him , He included Jesus in everything He made . "Let us make man in our image" God most likely was talking to Jesus .
Oh look, the little pagan is back from celebrating Kwanza!!! So if ALL THINGS (not all OTHER things) were made through him, when was HE made? If without him NOTHING was made that has been made, then how is he MADE???
@@solascriptura1536 It's not my turn to answer questions loser! You still have yet to answer me from days ago what the "word" was before Jesus came to earth . Was he still a second person of your pagan fake 3 people God ? If you fail to answer still , then disappear , be gone !!!
@@dazzadizzy5308 Is it my fault you're a brainwashed zombie? The word was God dear pagan, so says the Bible, not me... ᾿Εν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος. IN BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS TOWARD THE GOD AND GOD WAS THE WORD If you want to fight Tammuz, go ahead. My question remains: If ALL THINGS (not all OTHER things) were made through him, when was HE made? If without him NOTHING was made that has been made, then how is he MADE???
@@dazzadizzy5308 You steal my question and still not able to ask it properly. You're pathetic kid...just like your uncle Aladdin. You claimed Jesus is God's living word. At what time was God without his living word???
@@solascriptura1536 You can't answer can you idiot? , I asked was he the second person of your 3 people god? You KNOW what I asked but you fail as always because you dont know!!! 😆😆
Every time Anthony would cook, the heretic would instantly resort to ad hoc. He had no real rebuttals to anything except “that’s not what the Bible says, trust me bro you’re wrong”.
CSC complaining about filibustering... If you have trouble following a lengthy point, which is genuinely hard and I'm impressed at the people who can do it, then stop complaining about interruptions. Then you're free to interrupt and respond to a point quickly. That allows the debate become a series of shorter back and forths so it's easier to keep it all in your head.
Can you prove your assertion? As what’s actually pagan is when you as a Unitarian (im assuming) worships two gods as you worship the Father and the Son…. So i can’t wait for you to back your claims unlike the fella in the video !
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You worship 3 Gods , the spirit by your admission is "another" but yet you say he is God , Jesus you say is God also but is GIVEN a higher status by another also ....his GOD in Hebrews 1:9
Can you prove I worship three gods? (We kno you can’t as we’ve had this conversation before.. I’m Just commenting to remove your notification) all the while you admit toy worship two gods… what a numpty
I got the love of God and my family and a host of others but I can use some more. Which is why I’d like to extend my love to you about the truth since you obviously don’t have it in you… Also you don’t gotta be fake humble: be real
@@JKV84 Obviously the Unitarian on the panel tossed this video link into a group chat which is why there's the same amount of likes ascribed to the lowest effort spam comments in here from Polytheists pretending to believe in the Bible
Wait...did this heretic just say that angels are SONS of God??? For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”?+ And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? Do they not read Tammuz's Quran???
Many people are called Elohim In the Bible The Trinity is completely unbiblical If you want to continue to be decieved and call me a liar and a heretic just because I’m Unitarian Go right ahead
@@Therandomdisciple Show me ONE Elohim in the Bible apart from YHWH who is worshipped, honoured and glorified in the same way as YHWH...please??? Can angels procreate with humans???
The Unitarian is right. Anthony Rogers makes up interpretations that are not historical. He can’t show us any early churchfather who had his made up interpretations of the Greek.
@ He turned into a Nestorian. He created two persons in Jesus to try to weasel his way out of the problem of authority. He turned into a Nestorian. He created two persons in Jesus. One person always had authority. The other person only received authority in time.🥴🤣
@@Therandomdisciple I have read their articles. They make stuff up. They both claim to be the final authorities to understand and interpret scripture. They make up interpretations that never existed in the early history. They pretend that nobody knows Greek. They accuse the early Christians of not understanding the Greek of the bible. The Unitarian is right. They both have the same tactics. They will quote hundred of verses to try to deny one clear cut verse that destroys their whole theology. Their fans think they are knowledgeable by quoting hundreds of verses with their own made up interpretations.
@@Therandomdisciple They are both bullies. They rely on bully tactics. They can’t have serious discussions. They always try to misrepresent your position to try to establish their own illogical position. Both can’t provide an objective methodology to interpret the sources. They are simply using the trinity to ‘prove’ the trinity.
Uncommon Sense Christianity burried😂....this is masterpiece 😊❤
"I'm more confused listening to this CSC guy than listening to a lying Muslim."
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I didn't realize that calling your opponent's scripture-based argument "silly" meant that you instantly win! Well done CSC, bravo 👏
it just shows you that it is impossible to defend a lie when you are up against the truth. Pray for that man
Of course! We learned this from Fawad. Make claims with no evidence and bam.., W
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert The Problem with Anthony is that he makes up claims as if he is an authority. For example, he made the claim the Hebrew word פֶּ֠לֶא (pe·le)/Wonderful is a divine title only given to God. However, we have scriptures such as Ps 139:14
I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made (נִ֫פְלֵ֥יתִי (nip̄·lê·ṯî). Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.
The writer of this Psalms says the HE is wonderfully made which discounts this word is not a divine title.
Also, 2 Samuel 1:26 I am distressed for you, my brother Jonathan; very pleasant have you been to me; your love to me was extraordinary (נִפְלְאַ֤תָה (nip̄·lə·’a·ṯāh) , surpassing the love of women.
Here David calls Jonathan wonderful and obviously, he doesn't direct this to God like Anthony claims. Isaiah 9:6, Judges 13:18, 2 Sam 1:26 and Ps 139:14 just to start with come from the same root word פ־ל־א pe-le and are all linked to the idea of extraordinariness or marvel. Anthony just lied and hasn't actually studied the pattern on how this word is used and there are other verses too that use this word.
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert 💯
Anthony just demolished this guy with his exegesis of the Greek Hebrew …..
Amen brother. God is Good and a master class of what the Holy Spirit does in the heart of believers was on display.
@@cocopop111 if you invite Greg Stafford who is also a scholar to this call he will wipe the floor with Anthony Rogers.
@@ljnouata9088 Sam Shoumon and Albert are scared of Greg. They hung up on him when they tried to challenge him. I think Anthony is light weight compared to Greg Stafford
@@yahuhallah1259 for sure brother. Have you seen his “discussion” with Kelly Powers? He’s also a Trinitarian. interesting viewing. It’s on Kelly’s YT channel.
@@ljnouata9088 Yeah I was on Kelly’s channel debating Colossians 1:15-20 he wasn’t ready for that discussion. I’ve spoke to Kelly a few times and debunked him regarding exodus 3:14 trying to connect to John 8:58 and he still used the same arguments after being debunked 🤦🏻♂️
The rerun was just as good as live. Thanks for. clipping it and posting it brother.
🫡 wanted to get out this part out by itself as the live has this after a few hours of conversation. Appreciate you checking out again brother .
God bless anthony exposing the heresies
The Unitarian perspective on the resurrection of Jesus aligns with the position that He did not resurrect Himself; rather, His statements regarding resurrection were metaphorical in nature.
It can be argued that Jesus expressed profound faith in God the Father, which allowed Him to articulate such claims.
Following the event of the resurrection, it is noteworthy to observe that Jesus is seldom credited with resurrecting Himself; instead, the resurrection is consistently attributed to God the Father. Relevant biblical passages, including Romans 4:24, 8:11, Acts 5:30, 2 Corinthians 13:4, Colossians 2:12, Galatians 1:1, etc. highlight the role of God the Father in this event.
The absence of any claim of self-resurrection in the New Testament epistles further reinforces the understanding of Jesus' meaning. This omission indicates that the resurrection was viewed as an act of divine intervention rather than a self-initiated event by Jesus, thus supporting the assertion that His belief in God was foundational to the resurrection narrative.
So when Jesus says HE will raise himself up means God is the one raising him up? Do you see how you are proving that Jesus claimed to be God by doing that which only God can do, or him being the God that raised himself up??? You Unitarians are id10tz.
@@solascriptura1536 Yes, Jesus said "tear down this temple and in three days I will raise it up". This is figurative speech Jesus was using just like in Luke 8:48 when Jesus told a woman her faith healed her was it her faith or was the source from God in light of Acts 10:38?
In addition to that, it's typical Biblical language where it shows someone will do something and they actually didn't. For example, John 3:22 it says HE (Jesus) remained with them and was baptizing. Did Jesus do any baptizing? Not according to John 4:2 where it says Jesus did not baptize it was his disciples.
In the same manner Jesus said he will resurrect himself but in light of how the disciples viewed it he did not raise himself it was his faith in his God and Father that resurrected Jesus. Why can't we find any of disciples or the epistles saying Jesus resurrect himself? Shouldn't that be important?
@@yahuhallah1259 Jesus is speaking from HIS perspective, his point of view, from his own knowledge. They are speaking from THEIR point of view and perspective. HE lays down his life and HE takes it up again because he IS God.
And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. John 1:33
The disciples baptized with water, Jesus baptized with the Holy Ghost, big difference. John is focusing on the water/physical baptism, which is why he says Christ baptized with them but excludes him when referring to the actual baptism by water. You cannot read the Bible like it is the Quran. You don't just take a verse in isolation, you look at the bigger picture abdool.
@@solascriptura1536 Excellent, now show me AFTER Jesus was resurrected the apostles and the epistles understood the way you understood that Jesus raised himself? What text can you share?
John…. As it was literally written after 🤦🏽♂️…. Idk if you know this but John wasn’t quoting Jesus literally as he was saying it before he went to the cross. All of this was written after so your question is irrelevant
Good job Anthony destroying this heretic
This never gets old!!!
Amen. The truth was shared on this night! God is so good. ✝️🙌🏽
Your correct it never gets olds does it?
What's a shocker is Albert has about 545 videos that were made in the past 2 years so "Why Can't Trinitarian Apologists Answer This Question?"
If you notice non-trinitarian arguments have gotten better and better while trinitarian arguments are non-existent (witch might explain why this is a reaction channel).
Take the question for begotten for example:
"If God the Father is unbegotten and the Son of God is begotten then what does that make the Holy Spirit?"
1.mleo2003 trinitarian claims:
"God the Father begets God the Son.
What is begotten is the same nature as that which begot it.
Conclusion: Father and Son share the same Nature.
That nature is the Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature.
The Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature cannot be split.
Conclusion: They both possess the same Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature.
Any persons who possess the Divinely Infinitely Perfect Nature are properly God.'
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Side note: God the Father is self-existent but the Son of God is ONLY pre-existent based off the fact he was "begotten/ brought forth" by God the Father. This mean the Father has an essence of self-existents while the Son has a essences of pre-existents witch mean they don't have singular common same essence witch this disproves the doctrine of the Trinity.
Second: God the Father added the nature of man to the Son through means of the creation to complete the personhood of his Son Jesus. This again showing us that the Son divinity alone was not enough to in the eyes of the Father and though the creation the additional essences was needed for the Sons completion.
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2. solascriptura1536 trinitarian claims:
"Because being begotten has nothing to do with being created or being born. God is not created-He proceeds forth from eternity."
I conceded nothing because nowhere in that verse does it speak of the Son being dead or inanimate before receiving life. He GRANTED the Son to have life in himself, meaning the Son was already in existence before receiving that life."
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Side note: This trinitarian is taking a moldiest view by collapsing the distinct personhoods into one God and claiming "eternity" was able to confine God until God was able to "proceeds forth from eternity" positioning eternity to be begetter of then God. This is a classic case of how trinitarian try to use eternity to measure God by making eternity their God.
Secondly this trinitarian while making the claim God "proceeds forth from eternity" as his beginning can not explain where God goes next after being brought forth. Insinuating there is a second plaice that is able to confine equaled to that of eternity that is separate from eternity that can confine God.
Thirdly this trinitarian shows that the Father and Son are not of equal essences because "God the Father GRANTED the Son to have life in himself" meaning that the life the Son had is not his own but was GIVEN to him witch contradicts the trinitarians following claim of the Son bringing self-existent. All one has to ask is "what was the son BEFORE the God the Father gives him life?" The are plenty more logical contradiction I could go into but I will stop here, lol.
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3. Albert trinitarian claims:
"Unbegotten means unique/ only/ etc. We’ve had this conversation before. I kno you like to keep getting beat but atleast try to remember nothing you have brought changes the facts."
(next video later)
Albert trinitarian claims:
"Which is why when I showed you Hebrews 11 and Issac being called Abram’s only begotten son it doesn’t have to do with birth. But that he’s unique."
(and videos later)
Albert:
And yes He became the spirit of life through the resurrection as from His death and resurrection we have eternal life not that that’s when He was formed lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Side note:
1 Corinthians 15:45: "Just as it is written: the first man Adam became a living soul, the last Adam became a life-giving spirit."
Jesus BECAME a life-giving spirit, meaning there was a point in time where Jesus was not a life-giving spirit. More importantly, this points to the fact that Jesus has a point of beginning, unlike God the Father, who again is self-existent.
God the Father was not granted life by anyone or anything and has always been a life-giving spirit. God the Father is self-existent. That is why He has life in Himself. Jesus, on the other hand, is non-self-existent and was granted life by the Father. This is why God the Father is unbegotten, and God the Son is begotten.
John 5:26: "For just as the Father has life in Himself, so also He has given to the Son to have life in Himself."
In John 5:26, the Greek word ἔδωκεν simply means "he/she/it gave" in a straightforward sense, implying an action of providing or offering something. ζωῐν refers to "life," meaning the state or essence of being alive.
John 6:57: "As the living Father sent Me, and I live because of the Father, so he who feeds on Me will live because of Me."
John 6:57 tells us by what means Jesus became a life-giving spirit. It was God the Father who passed life onto Jesus so that Jesus could be the mediator of God the Father's everlasting life, by which He can provide salvation.
Checklist:
1. Christ is not self-existent because He has a point of beginning (1 Corinthians 15:45).
2. Christ is given His divinity by God the Father (John 5:26 and John 6:57).
3. We know God the Father and Jesus cannot be part of a Trinity because they do not have the same essence, as shown in points 1 and 2 above.
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All these guys do is contradict themselves and then give a like to each others contradictions. Then you have Albert contradicting himself!
And the said truth is these are the classic example that are bread from trinitarian theology.
Isaiah 9:6 does not call Christ THE Father, it calls him everlasting Father. He is el-Gibbor THE mighty God, not A mighty God. Heretics never addresses the fact that he is given the same title as YHWH. If Jesus is A mighty God, that makes YHWH a liar because he said there is no God formed before or after him. Why do unitarians lie so much?
@@solascriptura1536 they are of their father, the Devil
Isaiah has nothing to do with Jesus.
Your translation is not even correct.
@AlonzoHarris235 IQRAA ya ummi:
For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם:
Straight from the Tanach dear pagan.
@@solascriptura1536
You can’t read. It’s in the past tense. The Son is not identified as the everlasting father in your own translation from chabad.
The CHILD has already been born.
@AlonzoHarris235 Prophecy can be given in the present, past or future tenses. You are pathetic at reading the Bible. Stick to the comic section of your Quran. If the child is ALREADY born, which child was ever called the mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace? What's his name? What does his name mean?
The same comprehension problem of authority is common between Unitarians and Muslims. They say being given authority or permission is the same as being given power. The person giving authority does nothing to influence the act in question. A principal gives authority to the teacher to discipline misbehaving kids. The kids will be disciplined by the teacher, not the principal. They will interact with the teacher, not the principal. Jesus already HAD the power, he exercised his own power and not borrowed power. He was only given authority, permission, freedom to act.
Nothing but truth being spoken here
@@solascriptura1536
Can the Son give authority and permission to the Father?
Can you show me the verse?
@AlonzoHarris235 Don't be too presumptious with your questions, you are not that bright...
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5
The Son is giving the Father authority and permission to glorify him.
Show me where giving authority and permission equals giving power...which verse?
@@solascriptura1536
Are you kidding me? He is asking the Father.
The Son lost glory?
I thought the Son always had glory.
Is glory a necessary property to be God? Can God receive glory?
He is literally saying that he doesn’t have glory at that moment.
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You’re leading your followers astray
Jesus never talked about the trinity All you give is hints and riddles To make up your God
Show me in the gospels where Jesus says he is the angel of the lord
Why do Trinitarians always come off so cocky?
Cocky or confident? Stop crying you display your insecurities
Because they have a doctrine from Satan and pagan Constantine instead of following the clear word of Jesus.
You call it cocky, I call it confident...because they know they have the truth behind them. Look at what the Unitarians do to Scripture:
16 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ ἐκτίσθη τὰ theπάντα ἐν inτοῖς theοὐρανοῖς καὶ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς, τὰ ὁρατὰ καὶ τὰ ἀόρατα, εἴτε θρόνοι εἴτε orκυριότητες εἴτε orἀρχαὶ εἴτε orἐξουσίαι· τὰ theπάντα δι’ αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰς αὐτὸν ἔκτισται· 17 καὶ αὐτὸς heἔστιν πρὸ πάντων καὶ τὰ theπάντα ἐν αὐτῷ συνέστηκεν,
16 because in him it was created all (things) heavens and upon the earth, the (things) visible and the (things) invisible, whether thrones, lordships, governments, authorities; all (things) through him and into him it has been created; 17 and before all (things) and all (things) in him it has stood together,
because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him.
Do you see how many times they inserted the word OTHER in their translation just so they can support their demonic doctrine? You will do well to know what Unitarianism teaches before talking presumptuously.
Who's Jesus according to Unitarians by the way?
@@systemsguide-k7e The Jesus of the Unitarian is a god...a second god apart from YHWH. They have a main god and a lesser god.
Jesus raised his physical body , the "temple" , the Father brought Jesus to life as his former spiritual self . Otherwise when Jesus died you're saying another Jesus was continually alive to raise the physical Jesus so you have the Father , spirit and Jesus x2 LOL No .
Jesus raised the physical body to show the disciples that all he said was true.
That's actually a good point and a possibility. At any rate, it's the Father God who ultimately raised Jesus and he wasn't self-raised.
@@yahuhallah1259 Yes because by the triune god pagan's logic the son is NOT the Father and the son DIED , so how does the dead son raise himself without the Father ?! Trinitarians are flat out stupid . I'm not being nasty it's just true , they have to put effort in to be this dim!! LOL
Exactly.
The father raised Jesus giving him life as a life-giving spirit.
As a life giving spirit in heaven Jesus raised his temple / “it” up appearing in it before people.
Simple and no trini-nonsense.
When Jehovah speaks directly through an angel then that "angel of the Lord" will identify as Jehovah obviously . But it's not the angel himself who is YHWH , angels sometimes relay messages but sometimes God will speak directly via through them .
Anthony Rogers proved nothing and said alot but said nothing , he is a clever talker that just continually makes noise , a con artist.
@dazzadizzy5308 unitarians are boring speakers as they speak with zero authority as they are going to the lake of fire
@@pwx13 Unitarians are going to the lake of fire because they are boring speakers? 😂 Where is that in the Bible ?
@@yahuhallah1259it’s in tridiculous 3:11
@@pwx13 That would be the Pagan triune god believers who copy the Babylonian blaspheming insults they have adopted . That is why you are called the harlot , mystery babylon and you aligned with the "beast" which was the Roman empire at that time .
Oh My, Thats was a Slam Dunk, That’s what happens in Mr Rogers Neighborhood my Friend
🎶🎶its a beautiful day in the neighborhood🎶🎶
SHUSH ! EVERYONE !
The Father alone is GOD He self exists , He's not begotten and he is the source of all things ...including the son . That is why Jesus is SON of God . THE END
"The Father alone is God" is something never once stated in the Bible. Instead, both the Father, Son, and Spirit are all identified as God and not merely divine but God in the absolute sense, hence them all being identified as Yahweh, the God of Israel. Just repeating the Unitarian script and spam up-voting your own comments doesn't prove your position. No where in the Bible does Jesus being begotten negate him being the source of all things. Christ is identified as the God who created all things in John 1:1-5 and is the source of life, he's identified as the author of life in Acts 3:15, and he is identified as the one who laid the foundations of the heavens and the earth in Hebrews 1:10-12. All of these prove Christ is the source of creation in union with the Father & Spirit. Jesus is the Son of God because he shares the same nature as his Father, which is why Colossians 2:9 says Christ possesses the FULLNESS of the divine nature. You guys don't know the Bible
@@AnotherOne-s6m A son is a caused being , the clue is Jesus being the son of .....God of which is not 3 of anything. You make up gibberish not spoken of in scripture . You are all losing , you cannot defend this pagan garbage !
@@dazzadizzy5308
Exactly what a mess, they lack basic reading comprehension. Jesus said the father is the only true God and Jesus never went on to try to make the case of a trinity, these people are demonic, if they won’t even listen to Jesus, they’re not gonna listen to anybody else, total waste of time .
@CommonSenseChristianityT You're right , even when words are shown and proven they embrace lies . I cant make out if it's stupidity or bewitchment , well it's both .
@@dazzadizzy5308
Ya the demons in them want you to argue with them to waste your time. I don’t give them much time anymore. Let them all go to hell/Gehenna. They chose it
If I was a Unitarian(thank God I’m not). I would not recommend CSC debating this topic. He’s really not good at this.
His only defense is saying “not uh, it doesn’t say that”
He doesn’t really give any arguments against the trinity.
This conversation really showed that as well.
It showed the difference of not only someone who is way more versed in scripture but also someone way more seasoned in debate in general. I side refuted claims and tried to stick on task, one side claimed trust me bro and tried to jump every time he was answered. God bless you brother and Merry Christmas to you !
@ exactly.
Merry Christmas to you and your family brother!
Although I agree mostly with the Unitarian I do agree with you that CSC isn't equipped to debate these matters he keeps making the same points over and over he needs a new script.
@@yahuhallah1259 Nah, I did just fine. I wouldn't have changed a thing.
None of the 4 Trinitarians before Anthony had any argument on the trinity and neither did Anthony. This is why they kept interruping me. They had nothing.
I am perfectly equipped to debate these matters and I bring up the same points because they are never addressed. None of them can make the case of a three person God by going to scripture and having them show you someone trying to make the case for it. I have engaged and debated hundreds of Trinitarians and none of them have been able to answer my questions.
Instead of expressing your punditry in the comment section put on your big boy pants and go on and engage when 5 Trinitarians are on stage so we can all critique you and tell you how you did. Anyone can be a keyboard warrior
@CommonSenseChristianityT Oh I debated you before little buddy and you hung up on me. This is exactly what others are talking about you're not humble enough to take criticism. I was with you regarding Jesus not resurrecting himself but you did poorly because you could have asked Anthony to show you a text anywhere in the New Testament that Jesus resurrected himself *AFTER* the fact, but you dropped the ball, little buddy. Do better next time now you got this advice.
Luke 24 : 44 Then He said to them, " These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me. "
24 : 27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.
24 : 32 And they said to one another, " Did not our heart burn within us while He talked with us on the road, and while He opened the Scriptures to us?"
Jesus said that Moses and all the prophets wrote concerning Himself ,as well as the Paslms; all four Gospels are written down with this knowledge of who Jesus was , is & os to come ,we can also read what the letters of Peter , James the brother of the Lord & Paul wrote of concerning Jesus with this understanding of Scripture that Jesus personally gave to them all ,& His Apostles passed this knowledge onto their disciples, the early church fathers who also wrote with this knowledge passed onto them . This is the meat of the scripture, while all the heretics including Muslims have never touched a pap let alone tasted milk .
Anyone can / could bring another heretical sect with omission of Scriptures, & adding to ,& fool the gullible with a deception, lies & ignorance, yet theres a penalty for doing so , as therell be no protection in the fire that Shadrach, Meshach, & Abed - Nego had . ( of Which the the fourth form in the furnance is said to be like the Son of God by Nebuchadnezzar, who then goes onto ask " Most High God come out ,and come here." )
Peace and blessings. Merry Christmas, may your time be peaceful & filled with many blessings
☃️ HAPPY CHRISTMAS!!!‼️🎅🏻🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄🎄
MERRY CHRISTMAS MARION!!! God bless you and yours!!!
I was not going to comment on this trash but Anthony is a liar!!! Ecclesiastes does not say Creators and hebrew it does not say that. Solomon wanted everyone to know about the 1 creator the Father Jesus!!! Jesus is the Father and then the son made by a woman!! Galatians 4:4!! Thats why Philip said show us the Father and Jesus says have not i been with you so long and you dont know me yet!! John 14:8-9. Ephesians 4:4-6 1 god 1 spirit one God the father!! Malachi 2:10 dont we have 1 God the Father!!!
So are these guys liars too? Cause right now the only one who doesn’t know what they’re talking about is you…
John Gill’s expositor. Remember now thy Creator in the days of thy youth, &c. Or “Creators” as “Makers,” Job 35:10 Ps 149:2 Isa 54:5; for more than one were concerned, as in the creation of all things in general, so of man in particular, Ge 1:26; and these are neither more nor fewer than three; and are Father, Son, Spirit; the one God that has created men.
Jamieson, Faussett, & Brown. The Hebrew is “Creators,” plural, implying the plurality of persons, as in Ge1:26; so Hebrew, “Makers”.
Matthew Henry. Remember thy Creators; the word is plural, as it is Job 35:10, Where is God my Makers? For God said, Let us make man, us, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
In the singular, the Hebrew word sounds like BOWRAY, and is Kal participle, active singular masculine from the verb BARA, to create.
In the plural the Hebrew word sound like BOWREKA, and is Kal participle, active plural masculine from the verb BARA. The suffix KA is 2nd person singular masculine, hence the translation “your Creators” showing that Solomon was addressing just ONE young man in his remark. -Arthur Eedle Prophetic telegraph
@DaScripturePlug.Albert your whole channel is a lie!! Thats why you wear sunglasses that way cant see your demon soul!! You fool
@DaScripturePlug.Albert yall are adding to scripture and God says that's a no no!! Job 35:10 says maker!! Not makers lol. Pagan trash of 3 Gods!! My God is 1!! Hear o Israel your Lord God is one!!!!
Says the one who made a claim, got refuted and instead of a rebuttal cries and says “NUH UH!!!!”. So thanks for showing who you are. Again lol
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert you didn't refute anything lol. In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth!! Before the spirit or word was spoken!! And God is the Father right?!! And Jesus created all so again EVERLASTING FATHER!!!
I think anthony did well but he keeps using the idea that the son raised himself from the grave or that it is the power of god.
But men can raise themselves up from the grave if God actually said it and the man believes by faith the commandment. Which is what Jesus said was a commandment from the father that no one can take his life that he can take it back as he pleases.. is a work of the power of god and the faith of the man.
Still pressupposes a man because man can die and have faith ...God cant.
Good point !
yep and I keep asking these Trinitarians for proof that Jesus is ever given credit raising himself after the fact and they all failed. It’s God the Father that did the actual resurrection and not Jesus himself.
Where have you seen men raised themselves in the Bible..
@@yahuhallah1259 Jesus said he can do it.,isn't that enough..
@@andrebenjamin6538 No one raised themselves in the Bible including Jesus. After the fact Jesus was resurrected we never see anyone make that claim that he raised himself, not Jesus, not Paul, not Peter. It’s not in the the gospels or the epistles. We see Jesus say he would resurrect himself in John 2:19 but that’s speaking figuratively.
God created using His holy spirit , it's His power to get things done . God created THROUGH Jesus . John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
So God didnt create without him , He included Jesus in everything He made .
"Let us make man in our image" God most likely was talking to Jesus .
Oh look, the little pagan is back from celebrating Kwanza!!! So if ALL THINGS (not all OTHER things) were made through him, when was HE made? If without him NOTHING was made that has been made, then how is he MADE???
@@solascriptura1536 It's not my turn to answer questions loser! You still have yet to answer me from days ago what the "word" was before Jesus came to earth . Was he still a second person of your pagan fake 3 people God ? If you fail to answer still , then disappear , be gone !!!
@@dazzadizzy5308 Is it my fault you're a brainwashed zombie? The word was God dear pagan, so says the Bible, not me...
᾿Εν ἀρχῇ ἦν ὁ λόγος, καὶ ὁ λόγος ἦν πρὸς τὸν θεόν, καὶ θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος.
IN BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS TOWARD THE GOD AND GOD WAS THE WORD
If you want to fight Tammuz, go ahead. My question remains:
If ALL THINGS (not all OTHER things) were made through him, when was HE made? If without him NOTHING was made that has been made, then how is he MADE???
@@dazzadizzy5308 You steal my question and still not able to ask it properly. You're pathetic kid...just like your uncle Aladdin. You claimed Jesus is God's living word. At what time was God without his living word???
@@solascriptura1536 You can't answer can you idiot? , I asked was he the second person of your 3 people god? You KNOW what I asked but you fail as always because you dont know!!! 😆😆
Every time Anthony would cook, the heretic would instantly resort to ad hoc. He had no real rebuttals to anything except “that’s not what the Bible says, trust me bro you’re wrong”.
Angels are eternal?
CSC complaining about filibustering...
If you have trouble following a lengthy point, which is genuinely hard and I'm impressed at the people who can do it, then stop complaining about interruptions. Then you're free to interrupt and respond to a point quickly. That allows the debate become a series of shorter back and forths so it's easier to keep it all in your head.
The trinity is manmade pagan nonsense.
Another win for the Unitarian.
I'll drink to that ! 🥂
Can you prove your assertion? As what’s actually pagan is when you as a Unitarian (im assuming) worships two gods as you worship the Father and the Son…. So i can’t wait for you to back your claims unlike the fella in the video !
@@DaScripturePlug.Albert You worship 3 Gods , the spirit by your admission is "another" but yet you say he is God , Jesus you say is God also but is GIVEN a higher status by another also ....his GOD in Hebrews 1:9
Can you prove I worship three gods? (We kno you can’t as we’ve had this conversation before.. I’m
Just commenting to remove your notification) all the while you admit toy worship two gods… what a numpty
@@dazzadizzy5308trinis can’t count.
They are clueless.
"No no no no no" 😂
Yeah just say no a bunch and bam!!! Concrete argument
That was Anthony Rogers crying for his mommy🤣
Lolz the Unitarian got it right and Anthony Roger’s is just yapping empty nonsense as usual.
Oh??? So just like the Unitarian fellow you can’t do anything but cry and whine.. gotcha
@ love to you brother - you seem to need it 🥰
I got the love of God and my family and a host of others but I can use some more. Which is why I’d like to extend my love to you about the truth since you obviously don’t have it in you…
Also you don’t gotta be fake humble: be real
@@JKV84 Obviously the Unitarian on the panel tossed this video link into a group chat which is why there's the same amount of likes ascribed to the lowest effort spam comments in here from Polytheists pretending to believe in the Bible
Praise the Lord for the way He is using Anthony Rogers !!!!!!!!!!!!
Anthony Roger’s is considered one of the best scholars to defend the Trinity doctrine?? 💀💀💀
Sad for the trini side 😂
Wait...did this heretic just say that angels are SONS of God???
For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”?+ And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”?
Do they not read Tammuz's Quran???
They are sons of God
Read Genesis 6:2, Genesis 6:4, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, and Job 38:7 etc.
@@Therandomdisciple Can angels procreate with humans?
Many people are called Elohim In the Bible
The Trinity is completely unbiblical
If you want to continue to be decieved and call me a liar and a heretic just because I’m Unitarian
Go right ahead
@@Therandomdisciple Show me ONE Elohim in the Bible apart from YHWH who is worshipped, honoured and glorified in the same way as YHWH...please??? Can angels procreate with humans???
@@solascriptura1536No
I already answered you
The Unitarian is right. Anthony Rogers makes up interpretations that are not historical. He can’t show us any early churchfather who had his made up interpretations of the Greek.
Yep Anthony loves to make stuff up and twist scripture
Take a look at Sam Shamoun
He’s 100X worst
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He turned into a Nestorian. He created two persons in Jesus to try to weasel his way out of the problem of authority.
He turned into a Nestorian. He created two persons in Jesus.
One person always had authority. The other person only received authority in time.🥴🤣
@@Therandomdisciple
I have read their articles. They make stuff up. They both claim to be the final authorities to understand and interpret scripture. They make up interpretations that never existed in the early history. They pretend that nobody knows Greek. They accuse the early Christians of not understanding the Greek of the bible.
The Unitarian is right. They both have the same tactics. They will quote hundred of verses to try to deny one clear cut verse that destroys their whole theology. Their fans think they are knowledgeable by quoting hundreds of verses with their own made up interpretations.
Glad you called him a Unitarian and not a Christian. He is in the same boat as you abdool.
@@Therandomdisciple
They are both bullies. They rely on bully tactics. They can’t have serious discussions. They always try to misrepresent your position to try to establish their own illogical position.
Both can’t provide an objective methodology to interpret the sources.
They are simply using the trinity to ‘prove’ the trinity.
13:40 🏃🏽♂️💨
He wanted to Unitarian unicycle his way out of it all
Big facts lol @@DaScripturePlug.Albert
This Unitarian guy is butchering the text
Anthony cooked this fool all he did was cry 😂😂 what a joke Unitarians are
Highlight one item of proof Anthony brought to show God is 3 "persons".
@@dazzadizzy5308 do you want Old or New Testament
@@bson0715 any , either or both.
@@bson0715
Losers use the word cooked. They can’t even make a logical argument.