Is the motorcycle Game Changing? Budget Bikes Taking over?
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- We Visit Rainbow Motorbikes and Recharge Cafe in Devon to have a close up look at the Benelli Motorcycle Range. This Budget Brand of Motorbikes seems to be growing in popularity and we go back to the question "Would you rather buy used from the Big Brands or Brand new from the Chinese and Indian Brands for the same Money"? Budget Motorcycle Brands are changing the game, Bringing ever increasing quality Motorcycles to us at Budget Prices.... But are they Any Good?
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The Chinese have really upped the game in terms of quality and reliability, there are some really good brands out there now with superb levels of equipment, especially considering the price!! Zontes, CFmoto (I really like the 800MT touring) and Benelli. It happened with cars, it's now the turn of the motorcycle industry, great news for the consumer!
They just need to be given the chance they deserve, we would love to get a couple of these and take them on a big journey around the black sea or something and see how they do. Maybe Benelli will see this and see the opportunity
@@ontheroadadventure That would be awesome! 💯
Amazing
Awesome
@@karenjeffers1655 Have you ridden a benelli yet? What were your thoughts?
I rode my Vespa GTS 300 from the UK to Azerbaijan via Cyprus and it never missed a beat. I met so many adventure bike riders who were shocked that I had ridden it so far.
Any bike can do whatever you want it to , but the manufacturers try and brainwash you into thinking you need a particular bike for a particular type of riding.
This is true, we met a guy on a really old Vespa on top of Stelvio and he was on an epic journey too.
I’m glad you got back before it rotted out from underneath of you
They can’t be that bad surely
Very nice shop, a lot can take an example of this.
Nice shop, Nice owners, and nice bikes! Happy days 👍
I hate to confess but I didn’t know until now that Benelli is now Chinese owned! It looks like excellent value. Admittedly low on power but more than adequate for Sunday morning rides round Dartmoor, and once you’re used to it would probably make a more long distance tourer. I’d want to make sure that reliability wasn’t an issue though.
Thats what we are interested in hearing opinions of Benelli owners and so fa there has been no negative reviews from users. It is interesting how popular Benelli is in Italy, TRK was best selling bike in itally in 2021
I started riding in June on a benelli leoncino 500. Although a little heavy for it's class and displacement it was a great ride. If I could afford to keep it I would have, but I found a great deal on a triumph street triple 765 RS. No denying it is much better bike. But as a second run around bike, wish I still had the little lion.
How many miles did you do on it and what issues did you find?
I have to admit I agree with you! It’s difficult to argue in terms of price and what you getting for it!
As much as people want to knock them, such good value cannot be ignored
It’s tempting at such a good price, I wonder if they will get much more expensive like the other brands in years to come or stay affordable
@@momo-go4pl let’s hope they stay affordable, it is their biggest selling point right now
@@ontheroadadventure I do have to say a lot of people out there are struggling with the cost of living crisis so the Benelli here could be an answer to many people!
@@momo-go4pl we are all about trying to encourage people to ride more and if affordable bikes help do that then we are right behind Benelli
Can't beat lovely large dumplings
We agree! 👍😂
Must have passed this place so many times without realising it was there, have to pop in for coffee next time 👍
Yes we did the same thing, you can do a ride from Jolly’s bike shop, do the Dartmoor loop and come out at ashburton and stop at this cafe
@@ontheroadadventure so a pasty or cake at Jolly's then breakfast at Ashburton then kebab at dartington then coffee at Pgn peir to finish the day off 😁👍
@@marktorbay Sounds like a plan is emerging
Morning guys. Just subscribed, like your content (I am much smaller than you 😂). With the very keen price of the new TRK702 and 702x, they will have the mainstream lot quaking. Proper mile munchers, at sensible money. Only badge snobs will be daft enough to ignore them, harsh but true. I am hoping to throw my leg over one in the spring 🤞. All the best.
Thanks for joining us 👍 I think we will see allot of these Benelli TRKs on the road in the near future
Who can afford bikes these days? I like you guys. Guy and gal !
Thank you for leaving the comment! Glad you enjoyed the video. We can not eat to be on the road again. Do you have any trips planned for next season?
Really interesting point about comparison to the new Himalayan 🧐 really impressed at the recent video output guys, nice one 😉✌🏽🫡
Thank you so much, we are glad you like our content! We would love to test ride the Himalayan and see how it compares but the price is getting higher on the new one! Do you have any experience on the Himalayan?
I had a Benelli Leoncino 500 great little bike but the dealer near me was terrible! Looks like you found a good place? Which is a massive bonus get 2 trx for the price of an Africa twin? Cheap insurance cheaper Road tax if you get the 500cc? Good on fuel ect! Excellent value I check that place out looks great 👍
There’s the 700cc 70hp variant coming very soon too!
The 900 Tornedo TRE was designed by a guy from Birmingham who went on to work on the first MV Agusta Brutale and then the F3.
that is interesting! We did not know that.
I like the Benelli triumph used benelli as a bench mark bike for the triumph trident 660 👌
That trident is a great bike, it is comparable to the 702s benelli which we have a video on coming soon
I have a Zontes, no problems in 3 years. The only downside to most current Chinese bikes is the weight, they have copies of reliable Japanese engines but weigh 20kg or so more. They'll improve over time I guess.
Btw, I have 2 Harleys and a tuned B-king but the Zontes is my go to for everything except highway.
If the extra weight means that it’s built solid then I don’t mind personally, I’d rather that then made light but weak metals
The Benelli TRK has been around since 2018 likewise many of its other offerings, I’m yet to hear anything negative about them. Very well priced and capable as is the new 702 which is now finally available.
People seem to have lots positive to say about them yet you don’t see many about yet
How many people have you known to own them ?
I have a 2021 Benelli Imperiale 400. 30 months in and it is still faultlessly reliable. I did have a TRK 502 but found it a little too heavy for the power. Benelli are a little "Rudderless" when it comes to new models. They have been promising a TRK 800 for several years now. I'd suggest waiting until the 700cc bike is established in the UK before taking the plunge!
that's amazing! We don't know anyone personally who can give an honest user review like yourself! The imperiale model looks very good also does the scrambler from Benelli.
Do you have any comparison between your imperial bike and royal enfield 350?
These bikes might dominate the market one day just like Yamaha and Honda have!
It is possible if they can build a reputation for reliability on these budget end of the scale bikes, cost effective motorcycles are what people need right now
Unfortunately the reality is that most things are produced on china anyway and the level of quality varies from the iPhone to a KTM that will alway disappoint !!
@@BMWgsrider905 We agree, we think they should be given a fair chance, they have been around for sometime now. We would like to have one long term to see for ourselves if these bikes are now as good as the main brands
Agreed and if it happens it’s the Japanese manufacturers own doing..very soon the average motorcyclist won’t be able to afford a Yamaha or Honda. Prices are crazy..there is a reason Royal Enfields are selling so well.
@@eastsidebadger8416 You are right, Prices of some motorbikes are becoming simply silly even if you can afford it. If you can get a bike with same specs or better why spend so much more
The new Kove 800 looks a nice bike
I don’t know anything about those bikes, are there dealers in the uk for them?
@@ontheroadadventure it was on show at eicma motorcycle show ,peak motorcycles showed it on UA-cam there is a dealer in the uk it looks great and the bhp/weight figures sound good
@@timothybrockbank7474 ah ok il look it up but unless there’s lots of dealers and good parts availability I wouldn’t consider it quite yet
Benelli have been around a while but now being seen on the road so much more
It’s not hard to see why more and more people are giving it a chance
@@ontheroadadventure Benelli need to give you guys bikes for a trip and compare it to the Africa twins at £14k vs these are £6k
@@batotofhell To be honest they only need to be half as good at that price and it’s a clear winner
I maybe would be tempted as a second bike, but with no proven brand reliability and spares supply yet I wouldn't want to rely on them if I only had one. I know they're cheap but if the dealerships cant get parts then you're stuck.
Well the dealers say they can get the parts but of course they would do right? Owners are saying they can order parts themselves and it’s here within a week. The proof is in the pudding, we need to see real world long term tests. We do about 20k a year on our bikes, I want to hear from real people who have done the same on these
A lot to be said about the new cheaper bikes on the market. Depends on what you want, and as long as you look after I'm sure they will la's as will any bike.
Problem is I keep seeing lots of bikes at two years old and wrecked because of some basic TLC 😢😢
Yes I know what you mean, allot of these Chinese bikes appeal to younger riders, particularly the 125 market due to the affordable nature of the bikes. This also means they usually don’t get looked after properly and therefore don’t last as long as they should.
@@Greatuesu-sg1br You are absolutely right, they make bikes harder and harder to service your self, look at the computers and software you need now for a service, and these things are not for sale outside of the dealership
I think they have much to prove and “ recruit” new buyers. Also if there is a dealer local could be the clinch. I ve seen them in the flesh and well impressed. RE need to watch them in their mirrors. The rest of the bike world has gone made, my friend just paid £21k for gs1300
Yes it seems people are of the same opinion, they have our attention but not the Faith in the brand yet, they need to find a way to prove their worth
There is over 100 years worth of bikes to play with, try everything.
Exactly that! We all should have fun and ride different bikes to experience it all 😀 What bike do you ride?
The recycling of the Benelli name is counter productive for me, makes me think it's a scamm
To be honest I’m not too fussed what it’s called or which country made it, all I care about is the end result. In this case it looks and sounds great but benellis need to do what they can to convince us of quality before the masses start parting with their money
I think benelli needs a bit more time to convert people and trust them more as a brand but how long could that take ?
They need to give these bikes to influencers for proper long term testing. It all comes down to proving quality and reliability to get the consumer to have confidence in the product
Benelli is itallian no?
@@steve00alt70 It was originally but I believe bought out by a Chinese company but I believe some of the bikes are still designed and made in Italy. The Italians know how to make good looking bikes, have you seen the scrambler benelli?
@@steve00alt70chinese
Why people are so reserved when it comes to Chinese products? They are one of if not the best engineers in the world
I'm glad she called you out for not making the coffee 😅😅
I agree to a point that it's a difficult call to make on these bikes
They do look the part and seem to give value for money
I think the market for them is in the part time/ sunny day rider who wants a bike but dosent necessarily go to far or use the bike that often
You can justify owning one and keeping it in the garage at that price
Think it will make this type of rider sit up and think before they buy something twice the price to do the same thing
Buy it and keep it 3 years and you will still get reasonable money on it
Do they offer PCP deals on there range of bikes
If so that could be the game changer
Nice video, and it was good of you to cook the dinner 😅😅😅
Yes I believe they have all the same finance and pcp deals available on the bikes. The general consensus seems to be people want these bikes, like the looks and the price but are scared to take the gamble still on the aftercare
@ontheroadadventure Think you ate spot on there
People seem to be driven by what everyone else buys
And that's where the mistake happens
Buy your bike that your going to ride
To many glossy pictures of power rangers riding an Adventure bike around the mountains at high speed ( with no luggage on it 😀)
Got a feeling you could cut a good deal on the 502 from that dealer with regular honest reviews
Benelli need to give out 10 bikes to UA-camrs like us and let them build the brand and confidence in the product@@guyonacub4335
@ontheroadadventure They just need to do you a very good deal on one to include servicing and in return you give them and your subscribers the honest review
I would push hard for it if I were you
We see plenty of these cheaper bikes out there but the brands just need to push them a bit harder
Go for it
Use it as a second bike and promise to do regular vids on it
There's good and bad bikes out there
And just maybe these bikes could be a game changer
Be nice to see you get one and go off a do a trip into Europe on it, or a round trip of UK
You could drop into all the Benelli dealerships to help promote the bike along the way
We will contact Benelli and see how keen they are to talk to us
Africa twins up for sale soon then Rich ? 🤔
Not yet…. But we all know one bike each is not enough! We have an idea to get more bikes and keep them in Poland to save riding out that way each time, there’s lots to explore south of Poland and you want basic bikes that can be repaired easily and with not too much value for those countries.
@@ontheroadadventure Sounds like you have new adventures planned?
@@batotofhell We are always planning the next adventure! What about you?
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Hi friend, how are you?
@@ontheroadadventure Thank you my friend, how are you?
@@sukrutuz3718 We are good, we have been very busy with these Benelli motorcycles. Have they made it to your country yet?
@@ontheroadadventure Benelli came to our country and its sales are very good
@@sukrutuz3718 They are just beginning to become really popular here now and we wish them well
I have a new 2022 Zontes ZT 125 its really high quality for a chinese 125, 1600miles no issue.
I would love another chinese 500cc but they only do lower cc's
There’s a whole range of benelli motorcycles you can choose from, smallest is the TNT125 which is a blast to ride!
@@ontheroadadventuredoes benelli have larger cc's?
@@steve00alt70 I think upto 800cc right now
@@ontheroadadventurethe Zontes has the same backlighting and button style as the Benelli
@@steve00alt70 That’s a feature not on my Africa twin
I fully agree with you. At the moment I'm thinkjng of getting a new adventure bike. I testrode the BMW 1300 GS, with my wishspecs it would cost c. 25k €. On the other side I'm really looking forward to the new Himalayan, which will cost roughly 6.5k €. How shall I justify a difference of 18.5k€? More BHP?
Well said! Eva was between AT and new GS but again like you said how can you justify the price jump!
We have seen some videos of the new Himalayan flying through difficult terrain it looks very capable and fun!
Do you know when they will be available I Europe for test rides?
Yes there is a big difference in the price of bmw and himalayan
But you are buying premium brand with the bmw
I've had 2 himalayans and if I were to buy another I would definitely wait at least 6 months to see what issues the Enfield throws up
What you have to ask is
Do you really want an Adventure bike
Will you ride it on a proper adventure
Are you prepared to drop it.
Can you fix it if it breaks down
If you just want to go on long journeys/ holidays
Then buy a Touring bike
Plenty of good secondhand touring bikes out there for little money
The problem with the Adventure market is that its got out of hand and become very expensive
Good luck
@@ontheroadadventureNothing so farfrom the dealer. Somewhere I heart that one guy claims to havea delivery date end of March / beginning of April
@@guyonacub4335good points raised by you. It might even start by defining what an adventure is. For me this is no difficult terraine, a bit of off-road, a bitaway from the crowd. And yes, this alone might not be sufficient to justify neither a Himalayan nor a GS. Important point is also the possibility of scratches / little damages. With my actual AT I wouldn't be willing to risk damages neither with a GS. For meo epointisthat I'm looking a 'slow' bike (i.e. Less BHP) to slow down myself. But truth betold,I also have to discuss this with my wife, have to explainwhy exactly I may be in need of a third bike. Wish me luck!😂
@@TheWuseln
Have you watched Itchy Boots ride the new Himalayan in India? We think the same, we will not be taking our Nice Africa Twins off road or take any risks, but we would with these cheaper bikes, we would use and abuse the and it would double the fun and half the worry of damaging it. Also we would feel better leaving it outside hotels at night
I’m not sure which way the market will go, but ‘Made in China’ are not exactly watch-words for good quality and reliability yet. Personally, I’m sticking to Europe/Japan/USA at the moment.
Yes, most people are playing it safe even us but He who dares...
I have a Chinese made Suzuki & it’s just as well built & as reliable as any Japanese Suzuki I owned in over 50 years of riding . The Chinese can build to any quality & price point the customer requires , they have the latest technology . They also supply many big name top brands ,with parts ,engines & even full machines , most modern bikes will contain at least some parts sourced from China . They have well upped their game in the last 10 years .
@@maskedavenger2578 absolutely! Could not agree more with you on this! But are Chinese capable of overtaking the Japanese bikes on the market??
@@ontheroadadventure I think Chinese will be more capable . The Japanese & other well known brands like BWM ,& Harley ,& Italian brands have been sourcing Chinese parts ,engines & also having more & more models built in the top Chinese factory’s . People in third world & lesser developed counties ,get lower spec Chinese bikes than we in Europe & U.K.. They use them everyday to transport goods & families on unpaved roads ,through rivers & floods ,over mountains in extremes of cold & baking hot weather . They manage to keep them running ,no problem , the difference here in the U.K. is they get tend to get abused & not even serviced properly by dealers ,because they are seen as budget throwaway disposable items . The main problem Chinese bikes without a Japanese badge have ,is a decent spread of dealerships & guaranteed supply of parts for longer than just a couple of years . I reckon more & more Japanese ,BMW ,Harley ,Triumph ,Italian & other well known brands are going to be built in China & India ,& soon the only real choice for many will be Chinese or Indian built bikes .
It's like the Badge of Triumph or Honda is more important than the actual components or where its made, its about the after sales reputation. Benelli need to get our confidence up and they would sell like hot cakes and really give the big boys a problem@@maskedavenger2578
If the nainstream press, or youtubers would run them long term to prove abd promote them, it could cgange everything.
I wonder if Benelli would lend you one to do this?
Ride safe 👍
We would be happy to try this, we think they deserve a fair shout just for putting affordable bikes back into the market once more
Agreed! Of these were proven by real people I would have more confidence in the brand
@@batotofhell @BenelliGB the people are speaking to you!
If Beko made a bike
My Beko fridge is cool 😉
What 125 would you say
This depends on a few things, is this your first bike? What style do you like?
Residual value upon resale will be tuppence h'upenny.
I have to agree, my advice would be to buy used in the first place and save the big hit
I believe in China vehicles have to be taken off the road in a relatively short time (7 years or 10 years something like that). It’s a fundamentally different model of ownership/production/distribution to the UK. So, it depends if you buy to keep or buy to ride and have no ‘sixth sense’ attachment. Go for it.
Do you know why the vehicles in China have to be off the road in such short time? Maybe it is something to do with the emission?
@@ontheroadadventure Emissions/pollution/smog is a huge part of it, especially in the cities because they are monstrous in size, so I think it’s the desire to have only new or nearly new vehicles on the road whilst keeping the economy and productivity artificially high. That’s why they are or should I say were considered to be poor quality (to us in the West) because they were by design, only ever going to have a short life. Now, if China designs these Benelli’s and other bikes FOR the UK market perhaps they’ve upped the quality to reflect that. No doubt they know exactly what they are doing. I believe in Russia (Chinese made) car sales have gone up about 30% this last year or so alone.
@@jfro5867 If a 6k bike lasts me 6 years which would be about 80-100k miles I’d be perfectly content with that
@@ontheroadadventure Yea. My comment wasn’t meant as criticism at all, it’s just stuff I’ve read lately from a variety of sources and seeing as you’ve been specifically raising the topic of Chinese bikes I wanted to contribute. A good friend has a 500 Benelli, I’ve seen it myself, he likes it. Seems decent to me. It’s a bit like BSA or even Nortons current predicament but their problem is even worse (due to the brands woeful track record and +£17k price tag). Do you buy into a pretty much unknown commodity or play it safe? Tricky.
Well I can be tempted into the unknown at Benelli prices but I wouldn’t gamble at 17k on the unknown for sure!
The Benelli 500 engine is not a copy of the Honda 500 engine, it is completely different, it has a 360 degree crank whereas the Honda has a 180 degree crank for starters
Interesting you’re not the first to say this, it’s what the salesman told me at the dealership, they are new to the brand though. We loved the sound of the engine
@@ontheroadadventure they best get their salesman up to par with his product knowledge then lol, if he carries on like that then it isn't going to go so well, the 700 engine is based in the older version of the Kawasaki 650 and is built by CFMoto who also build the 650 under licence and that engine is also in the new Moto Morini 650 but the 500 and 400 are all the work of the parent company QJ Moto with input from Italy I believe
@@andyc750 Every day is a school day !
Absolutely yes the game in changing. Its taken a while but people are beginning to realise that their being taken for mugs and are starting to turn their backs on over powerful over hyped over priced bikes. Of course there will always be the top trump wankers down the pub but I just sit there thinking yes I could buy two of those mate with cash if I wanted too but I chose not too because I don't like being taken for a mug !
We have to agree, some of these Chinese bikes are offering amazing value and are becoming impossible to ignore
Th8s poorly informed "Chinese brand" nonsense gets my goat. I live in the Southern hemisphere which means that my Thruxton and my Speedmaster were made in Thailand. British my backside (which happens to be literally true). Should we refuse to buy then these 'Thai bikes'? What about Royal Enfield? Made in India? I'm old enough to remember when anything ex Japan was thought rubbish. Because they made rubbish? No. Because Brit importers only bought from the cheap end of production. What really matters is how well the badge owner ensures the quality of build and their reputation. I owned a Meriden T150v Triumph, made in the midlands and it was crap - centre cylinder always nipping up. Regard the bike against its promises and performance. Like it or not, more bikes will be made where production costs are lower. Don't miss out on a good deal from prejudice. And yes, I own a TRK502 which sirs deservedly in the same garage as the Trumpys as my daily commuter. Many kmmon, it's been a reliable ride and good value for money alongside my 'Asian Triumphs'
This thinking is becoming more common place now. Have you had any corrosion on your TRK?
Personally I wouldn't buy any Chinese product under any circumstances - same as I wouldn't buy anything made in Russia
For political reasons?
I still don’t trust the quality/reliability. The only way you’ll prove it’s any good is being given one to test for a very long time. However we all know KTM’s ties to the Chinese manufacturers!
You’re not the first to say this, and we see your point. We all know the professional motorcycle journalist have to keep the manufacturer’s happy and only over a short space of time and miles. We would love to do something epic on these and prove the bikes worth one way or the other
Yep. You might save money buying a Chinese bike new, but you’ll be smashed in depreciation when you try and sell it on and lose any savings then!
@@cp4512 The idea is to get the bike and use it for as long as it goes on. With bike as cheap as this you can afford to ride it into the ground
My KTM dealer admitted to me that KTM & Husky are 51% Chinese owned so they could manufacture the bikes in China. 51% ownership means control!
@@DavoBatty so you might aswell buy from the bargain bike manufacturers
Nah. The quality doesn't match the Japanese bikes. Buy one of the Chinese brands and you will lose money on resale too
Absolutely agree with you! Who knows maybe the future of Chinese bike brands is as good as for the Japanese?
Have to challenge you there
Buy one of these for 6/7 k
Keep it 3 years and you will still get 2k for it
Sold my 1190 ktm adventure
Paid £1399 with luggage
Sold it with 9k on the clock 7 months later for a new fjr and got 8.5k for it
Paid £6500 for my all singing all dancing himalayan with every conceivable extra on it
Did 7.5k on it in 3 months and it was a nightmare bike
But Sold it fo 4k ( so the deal on the cheap bike was better )
The way I feel now its about value for money
And if you do your homework you will find that many of the big brands are making these bikes in different countries to keep the big profit margins
Parts are being made all around the world but they tell you that you are going to buy a better bike ( really )
This Benelli is to big and heavy for me now but it just could be a game changer
Another bike to consider is the XCAPE 650
I took one out a few months ago and was impressed with it for the money but couldn't get a good price for my Honda
Good challenge but I'd argue that a royal enfield the best outside of the big 4. Far better than benelli, vogue, mash, herald, cfmoto etc.
Also your ktm isn't one of the big 4. Ktm are fairly good at retaining value though. Comparing your ktm to a total enfield with under 30 bhp, you can't compared.
That x cape looks really cool! I’d like to try one of those
The new Enfield looks like a good offering but is now much more than a fully kitted out Benelli 502x