My mom managed this mall in the early 80's. Spent everyday after elementary school hanging out here. The arcade "TIME OUT" was awesome and many quarters were spent there. I remember the dark theme with parquet flooring and the French Quarter. Great memories were had and sad to see it go the way of most other malls.
That's the Tanglewood I remember. I would always stop by Time Out and the Leatherhouse in the French Quarter. My mother worked at Dana's for a number of years as well. The parking lot would be completely full during the Christmas season and most of it would be closed on Sunday's due to the blue laws.
That's how this area of Virginia is. Good people. Even in what some people around here think is a bad city of Roanoke. The Noke as we call it really isn't that bad.
Reminded me of the S&W Cafeteria we used to have in Richmond, Va., and also the PIccadilly Cafeteria. PIccadilly would alternately be pretty good, then too salty, then pretty good again. Their bourbon chicken was originally seriously good and then deteriorated from the use of inferior ingredients. The one we had in Richmond, out on West Broad Street, had a cafeteria line, from which you chose what you wanted, and then at the end of the line you paid the register. After sitting down, there was waitstaff that would get you coffee and refills, napkins & the like. Because of the way this was organized, I never knew how much to tip, or if the server was actually getting paid more than the $2.13/hr minimum for waitstaff.
I remember when Tanglewood was awesome back in the day. Food court upstairs and tons of shops. It slowly started to fade away into what it is now. Sad to see for sure. Although k&w stays pretty busy and gets packed after church services let out. Great food! You should check out crossroads mall next time you’re in Roanoke. ✌️
Like how that K&W cafeteria looked where it still had the older smorgasbord buffet line where you slide the trays on down to pick out your food, Ponderosa steakhouses used to had that setup back in the 70s and 80s.
That chain seems to be one of the last successful holdouts of that kind of buffet restaurant. Most of the other chains of this type are either pale shadows of what they used to be or gone out of business altogether.
Gordon Taylor A last buffet of that kind I had was at Furrs in Fort Collins/Loveland Colorado with some friends that lived in Cheyenne Wyo. back in the mid 90s. I doubt it if that restaurant is going anymore. One of the friends was from Iowa and he talked me into going out to Cheyenne then and had a great time then.
@@gordontaylor2815 My local mall back in the day had a similar cafeteria restaurant called Morrison's Cafeteria I believe? After that it was a Piccadilly for a while and even that eventually closed.
@@dennismanbook We had two Furr's Cafeterias in Colorado Springs. They featured LIVE piano music! Sad they're long gone. I don't think there are any cafeteria style restaurants anywhere near here anymore.
My family, including my grandparents would drive to this K&W Cafeteria from Lynchburg for a special treat. As a kid, I thought it was an amazing place. Don’t forget to leave room on your tray for dessert at the end of the line!
I was waiting for someone to do a video on this mall. I remember the mall in the time with the food court and arcade and when the TJ Maxx was still connected. This mall, while sad, still holds its own beauty. I still go in to walk from time to time. I think the dichotomy between this and Valley View (close to 100% occupancy) is fascinating.
@@benchattin right it’s concerning not because I’m afraid of the mall closing but who would take over management if the current management goes under. Not that they’ve been taking great care of VV recently anyway.
@@Softshelldiety I think Valley View will be fine but Covid's definitely taken a toll on it. The only reason Tanglewood is still open is because the stores adjacent to it, haven't been in there almost 3 years.
The K and W cafeteria tour should make this a thumbs up video no matter what. My father loved going to the one next to our local mall until it closed. Where has all the time gone ?
I noticed (from what I could see) that the K&W looked well-kept. I didn't see any crumbling booth seat covers, e.g. There's one Aunt Sarah's in Richmond, Va., that desperately needs some recovering of bench seats, but I think they were hanging on by a thread even before the coronavirus situation. The food there was standard pancake & comfort food, at reasonable prices for what you ordered, and the food that I had was tasty and edible. Of course, with that kind of food you really get a lot of salt, so you do need to moderate the fare.
Wow, what a sad day. I moved to Roanoke in 1986 in 4th grade. This mall was the epitome of a great 80's mall. Actually, Chick Fil A opened up one of it's first locations in this mall in the early 80s!! Most people don't believe me but it is true!! Anyway, Roanoke was a bustling little town with great middle class jobs and then came the 2000's, and with that the jobs left as did the wonderful era ole Tanglewood. Thanks for the great memories of my youth!!
In high school, I worked at Chick Fil A in Valley View mall. We’d go to Tanglewood to visit our counterparts on “the other side of town” on Friday nights if we were off.
Moved here in '89 and was always my favorite mall, mostly because it wasn't as crowded as Valley View, closer to where I lived and had a TJ Maxx and Steinmarts.
Omg that’s where I live. I remember they used to have commercials that they only showed during the holidays and it was filled with crowded people but that was never the reality.
Matty J Man, my condolences to you all living in the Salem/Roanoke area. That place has TRULY become a collapsed, former manufacturing town. There is an ENORMOUS amount of decay in that area from the number of street lights which either don’t work or the city doesn’t have enough money to keep them in operation, to the crumbling sidewalks and potholes that litter, virtually that entire area. When I was trapped there in a snowstorm about a year ago, the city only cleared 1 1/2 of the 2 lanes on Hwy 11, making driving through that area even more dangerous than the snow itself! I really hope you guys who live in that area start to wake up and realize that you are TRULY being screwed due to the systemic nature of the economic system that we live in. I travel through quite a few places in the south and Roanoke/Salem has got to be one of the worst places that I’ve been around and through quite extensively.
Hey Ace, I'm from Roanoke VA and have been to tanglewood on a few occasions. Thank you for giving this place a spotlight as I love it in its own special way as much as I love Valley View. I'm actually quite sad to think about it leaving.
As a kid in the early to mid 80’s, there was a bank close to K&W. My dad had the contract to clean those bank branches and he’d let me come with him on Friday nights when he cleaned that branch. I remember Tanglewood being so packed on Friday nights. It’s sad to see Tanglewood looking like this. Every tine I’m in Roanoke I make a point to stop by.
I moved to Roanoke in July of 86 right before my 4th grade year. Roanoke was such an awesome place back then, great jobs and great shopping. To illustrate how different Roanoke is vs 30 years ago….back in the 80s and 90s the high end jewelers Finks had a shop on the lower level next to Leggetts. This store had every Rolex watch made at the time as well as Tag, Omega, etc…. People spent big money in that mall. There were actually 2 Hallmark stores, and this was in a mall that was not very big!
So nostalgic, I remember going there as a kid and my mom wanting to go to ac Moore and I had to wait until she was done so we could go to gamestop. Chick-fil-A was the best there, it still smells like it up there on the second floor, good memories
Thanks for doing a video on this mall. I live in Roanoke. I remember the old food court. Not much back there then even in the late 90's. A Taco Bell and a Chinese food place and a small arcade. It is walled off now. The "french quarter" I barely remember I remember the Bradley's and when it was empty one curtained area at the mall entrance there was a traveling video game museum of sorts that was there for a few months. When I did my video not too long ago I completely forgot to get the sign. Now it is gone. Used to be all white bulbs with scrolling text before the current one Forgot to ad. In the late 90's I worked at that K&W for a few months. Horrible job but I needed work and it kept the bills paid
Love the K&W Cafeteria at the end! It's been so long since I've seen a place like that in person. Love how 80's looking it is, plus it looks well kept and appears to still be doing well.
The only K&W Cafeteria I ever ate at was in Matthews, NC. Honestly, it is probably one of the best cafeteria -style restaurants out there. Miss it alot!
It's sad. I remember the arcade on the second floor. Since your so close you should do Valley View Mall. If you're heading now do Staunton Mall. I forgot about the K & W. Do you know about Crosswords Mall? That was the first mall in the area. There is a K & W near there. Great food, you should check it out.
@@tjsilver7325 Yes I'm from Natural Bridge and I would hangout with my cousins who lived near crossroads mall. We would ride our bikes there and mess around at the mall and arcade spending all our money. Times were different back then and it was safer. Of course you can't forget about LakeSide amusement park. We had some great times.
I moved away about a year ago, but I spent a lot of time there even in recent years. There is (was?) a Thai rolled ice cream shop at one of the entrances/exits called Champloo Desserts and my girlfriend and I loved that place.
It was our favorite! This recipe is exactly like it! Ingredients 3 cups whole milk, divided 1 cup sugar 1/8 tap salt 6 Tablespoons cornstarch 1 cup sweetened flaked coconut 3 Tablespoons real butter 1 Tablespoon vanilla extract 1 whole pie crust 9 inch prebaked per crust directions For topping 1 cup heavy whipping cream 2 Tablespoons sugar 1/2 tsp vanilla Whip together until firm Instructions In a large saucepan combine 2 cups milk sugar and salt. Bring to a boil over medium heat. Meanwhile combine remaining 1 cup of milk with cornstarch in a bowl. Mix together well and then add to the hot mixture. Cook stirring occasionally until mixture thickens. Add the coconut, butter and vanilla. Cook until mixture thickens again. Pour into baked pie crust shell and cool in fridge. When ready to serve top with whipped topping❤️
That's cool you made it to Roanoke Virginia. That's home to UA-cam user dieselducy. He films elevators all around the United States and in Roanoke. He's another big channel. If anybody likes elevators you should go check him out. That's who I think when you say Roanoke Virginia
Not necessarily. There's a church in our mall, and the mall's doing just fine. It's only lost one anchor (Sears). One of its other anchors is doing so well, it actually built an expansion in 2016, doubling its square footage. (But yeah, I agree with you that it *usually* isn't good news when a church moves in. When I found out that there was a church in our mall, even I was alarmed. No need to worry yet, though, our mall is still at about 80% occupancy.)
@@luxembourger They don't approach random people, because it would be considered soliciting, which is not allowed. About all they can do is to put flyers outside, so that anyone who wants to pick one up can do so. As far as I know (I don't go to the mall often, and especially not on a Sunday), they mind their own business.
What a cute little mall. I love K&W Cafeteria's down south. Such a great deal for great comfort foods. It's cool to see there is a location inside the mall. The shoppers are lucky.
The problem was design, they forced you like cattle to go past every store to go up or down lvls. Just two escalators located on opposite ends, the food court stairs was useless. Thats the first thing i noticed when it was occupied.
If you're ever back in the area, you might want to take a look at the mall again. Carilion Clinic's totally revamped the old JC Penny. Basically they gutted the building and put in a pediatric center as well as a development center and a specialty pharmacy. The mall has also added outer shops and eateries. I've heard that VDOT's got plans to redo the 581 and Tanglewood interchange to a roundabout.
My aunt and uncle live right near Tanglewood, we go past it all the time, it's definitely part of the history of Roanoke, i hope they revamp it soon. People spend more time at Valley View Mall near my neighborhood. Seems like that's the go to place.
I like the history behind these malls and the newsreels. Seniors will appreciate a restaurant like that cafeteria because it has what all businesses used to have. Starting with the nice friendly lady at the front to the great atmosphere and the fine foods. Everything in my area is now fast food. Every business in my area is a discount store. All the others were trying to make a profit so they didn't advertise discounts and promise free refunds so they are closed. It was sure good to see a thriving business. 😄👍
Fun to see a cafeteria still in a mall. They used to be relatively common in the 60s and 70s but you don't see them that much anymore. Usually they were pretty good and I bet this one is too.
It’s a beautiful building. I still like to walk inside though with AC Moore closing I won’t have much reason to go to the mall proper. Roanoke is a beautiful city in the spring and summer, lots of outdoorsy things to do!
It was a really good mall, until Valley View Mall was built on the other side of town. Then it started losing businesses, and steadily declined. Ive heard from some who still work there, that supposedly new shops are coming in. I certainly hope so. It's a nice mall on a good part of town, very convenient too.
great mall for social distancing .... I live here (not in the mall) but grew up going here all the time. It used to be a GREAT mall with toy stores, chess king, merry-g0-round clothing (SP), Radioshack, tons of food options, brendles, A PET STORE with Dogs, Orange Julius, Magic, and all sorts of shops.... The crowds were huge back in the 90s... Now is is a dead man's land where you can ear echos in every corner. Rumor is they are putting a medical facility in part of the mall (Carillion)
Omg I was NOT prepared for the music to start so emphatically like that 😂 I’m from Roanoke and this mall didn’t used to be dead. I have so many memories of that place growing up. But the past decade has not been kind, as you can see.
It really is a nice place. I remember going as a kid (must have been already kind of dying by then it was only ~15 years ago.) I still remember the little coin funnel thing they had.
I wish I would’ve seen the days where the mall was busier. Everyone goes to valley view, you don’t catch many people saying they’re heading over to Tanglewood often.
I’ve been watching dead mall videos for years. Then the other day I just happened into this place. Was so fascinating being inside a dead mall for the first time. Also I gotta say, the bubble tea place in there is pretty good, stop by if you get a chance.
I used to go to this mall every now and then when I used to live at least 45 minutes away from Roanoke. I do remember on a regular day or even on a Saturday, that mall didn't have a lot of people going through it. But, it would get a bit busy on Black Friday. For me, it's different to see how that mall looks now compared to how it looked since the last time I went there several years ago.
I'm from Virginia and I used to go to the mall a lot with my mother when I was younger. It used to have a few stores that I liked. And they used to have a big Christmas display and my mom would take me to see Santa' there sometimes. But Valley View was the mall my mother and I went to a lot more and we still do. It has all the stores that I liked and is always busy. Tanglewood always seams empty to me now. I felt kinda sad when we would walk around and see hardly anything. My mom liked going into AC Moore and they used to have a comic book store at one point that I liked. Other than that, I don't really remember any store there that i really liked. I do wish that they could do a remodeling and bring in new stores to the mall. I'd love to see them bring it back someway.
In 1985 to compete against the opening of Valley View Mall, Tanglewood did a complete renovation removing the iconic fountains and replaced them with new fountains. The sole surviving fountain is the one in the middle but in 1985, the colors were blue, green, neon, and had a Mediterranean look about it throughout the whole mall.
I remember the Tanglewood Mall well, even though I only stopped in there twice, impressive in its day. Big Lots had also maintained a store there in part of the old Woolco for several years, until they consolidated with its store near Valley View Mall some years ago. And of note, AC Moore (the arts and crafts store) filed bankruptcy and may be either shutting or revamping to Michaels, not sure yet. And K&W (next to the old Kroger) is a decent place to eat, actually, it's a chain based in Winston-Salem, NC, my old hometown, and locations throughout the Carolinas and Virginias. If you're back in the area, Ace, might also check out the old Crosstown Mall (not far from Valley View) and Valley View Mall, both up the road by the Roanoke Airport, since they've both been going thru some serious changes over the years.
My parents met at the JCPenney that used to be in this mall, so I exist because this place existed! My mom worked there and my dad kept coming in there as a customer just to talk to her.
To its credit, Tanglewood held out for a good bit, I think until like around 2009ish I would’ve still been actively shopping there. Now it’s like “do I want to walk down memory lane on my way to the Five Guys”. “Tanglewood’s not dead, it has a Bath & Body Works!”
The state or county or whoever is actually attempting to revive this mall!! Chili's just came there, Pop Eye's is coming and a couple other stores have been rumored to be stuck in there
Chesterfield Mall in Chesterfield Missouri is going to be mostly torn down and rebuilt for multiple things. The Mall Looks Gorgeous and it's such a shame I never got to see it when it was busy. I thankfully got pictures but Be a great show for you and those who do what you do. Please video save the mall.
K&W is literally the best thing that’s ever happened to humans, and I am terrified that as old people die and young people continue to (not K&W), we will lose the privilege forever.
Funny in Richmond Va. we had S&W Cafeteria I wonder if there is any relation? Are you going towards Richmond? I hope to see more about my old fave Regency Square (Half Dead I hear) and Willow Lawn First they built it as an outdoor in the early 60's then changed it to an indoor in the late 80's now BACK to outdoor! lol
I was wondering when Tanglewood would be on here. I moved to Roanoke almost 7 years ago and have been saying since then that this was destined to become a dead mall. I was wondering when someone was going to talk about it. If you get a chance you should go to Aviation Mall in Queensbury NY too. That place is horrible. They can't keep stores in there.
I remember going to this mall back just after StarWars episode 1 came out. There were two geeky guys calling out Weird All Yankovic for being too "Harsh" with the line, "Maybe Vader some day later, but he's just a small fry" One of the dudes called it harsh like ten times, almost like he just learned what "Harsh" meant. Anyway, they still have a 5 guys!
My mom managed this mall in the early 80's. Spent everyday after elementary school hanging out here. The arcade "TIME OUT" was awesome and many quarters were spent there. I remember the dark theme with parquet flooring and the French Quarter. Great memories were had and sad to see it go the way of most other malls.
I grew up shopping here. It was built the year I was born. Lock, Stock and Barrel was my favorite. So many amazing memories there.
That's the Tanglewood I remember. I would always stop by Time Out and the Leatherhouse in the French Quarter. My mother worked at Dana's for a number of years as well. The parking lot would be completely full during the Christmas season and most of it would be closed on Sunday's due to the blue laws.
@tjsilver7325 What was the French Quarter? I remember the name but what stores were there?
I like the restaurant part where a lovely old lady welcomes you as you come in, that's nice :)
That's how this area of Virginia is. Good people. Even in what some people around here think is a bad city of Roanoke. The Noke as we call it really isn't that bad.
@Jjmcb26
Yes that woman was so friendly and warm. Salt of the earth folks are beautiful.
Reminded me of the S&W Cafeteria we used to have in Richmond, Va., and also the PIccadilly Cafeteria. PIccadilly would alternately be pretty good, then too salty, then pretty good again. Their bourbon chicken was originally seriously good and then deteriorated from the use of inferior ingredients. The one we had in Richmond, out on West Broad Street, had a cafeteria line, from which you chose what you wanted, and then at the end of the line you paid the register. After sitting down, there was waitstaff that would get you coffee and refills, napkins & the like. Because of the way this was organized, I never knew how much to tip, or if the server was actually getting paid more than the $2.13/hr minimum for waitstaff.
That’s the way we roll in SW Virginia. 😊
@@tressydoll68
Yes that's true.
K and W looked straight from the 80s gotta love it.
Yeah. It looked well kept to.
It’s so yummy. I love it in there.
This was THE place to be as a teenager in the 80’s! Wow, how I miss those days.
i grew up in Roanoke and this was referred as the high-end mall in the 90's but it was nice then everything started leaving seemed like overnight
I remember when Tanglewood was awesome back in the day. Food court upstairs and tons of shops. It slowly started to fade away into what it is now. Sad to see for sure. Although k&w stays pretty busy and gets packed after church services let out. Great food! You should check out crossroads mall next time you’re in Roanoke. ✌️
Vaporwave and dead malls what a blissful time we live in.
I went to this mall with my family, back in the 90s. I no longer live in the area. Thank you for capturing this.
Like how that K&W cafeteria looked where it still had the older smorgasbord buffet line where you slide the trays on down to pick out your food, Ponderosa steakhouses used to had that setup back in the 70s and 80s.
That chain seems to be one of the last successful holdouts of that kind of buffet restaurant. Most of the other chains of this type are either pale shadows of what they used to be or gone out of business altogether.
Gordon Taylor A last buffet of that kind I had was at Furrs in Fort Collins/Loveland Colorado with some friends that lived in Cheyenne Wyo. back in the mid 90s. I doubt it if that restaurant is going anymore. One of the friends was from Iowa and he talked me into going out to Cheyenne then and had a great time then.
My mom and I used to go to several chain cafeteria restaurants when I was younger living in Florida and such wonderful memories.
@@gordontaylor2815 My local mall back in the day had a similar cafeteria restaurant called Morrison's Cafeteria I believe? After that it was a Piccadilly for a while and even that eventually closed.
@@dennismanbook We had two Furr's Cafeterias in Colorado Springs. They featured LIVE piano music! Sad they're long gone. I don't think there are any cafeteria style restaurants anywhere near here anymore.
My family, including my grandparents would drive to this K&W Cafeteria from Lynchburg for a special treat. As a kid, I thought it was an amazing place. Don’t forget to leave room on your tray for dessert at the end of the line!
I was waiting for someone to do a video on this mall. I remember the mall in the time with the food court and arcade and when the TJ Maxx was still connected. This mall, while sad, still holds its own beauty. I still go in to walk from time to time. I think the dichotomy between this and Valley View (close to 100% occupancy) is fascinating.
I remember when TJ Maxx was attached too! :)
Yeah, me too. The old parquet floors and the French Quarter were great. The arcade TIME OUT was my hangout back in the early 80's...
The company that owns Valley View recently filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy.
@@benchattin right it’s concerning not because I’m afraid of the mall closing but who would take over management if the current management goes under. Not that they’ve been taking great care of VV recently anyway.
@@Softshelldiety I think Valley View will be fine but Covid's definitely taken a toll on it. The only reason Tanglewood is still open is because the stores adjacent to it, haven't been in there almost 3 years.
The K and W cafeteria tour should make this a thumbs up video no matter what. My father loved going to the one next to our local mall until it closed. Where has all the time gone ?
I still eat at this K&W from time to time! :)
I just ate at this K&W last Sunday :) it was actually pretty packed! Always great food.
Michelle KH I really love that K&W! It’s much better than the other one haha
I noticed (from what I could see) that the K&W looked well-kept. I didn't see any crumbling booth seat covers, e.g. There's one Aunt Sarah's in Richmond, Va., that desperately needs some recovering of bench seats, but I think they were hanging on by a thread even before the coronavirus situation. The food there was standard pancake & comfort food, at reasonable prices for what you ordered, and the food that I had was tasty and edible. Of course, with that kind of food you really get a lot of salt, so you do need to moderate the fare.
It’s closed now😢
Wow, what a sad day. I moved to Roanoke in 1986 in 4th grade. This mall was the epitome of a great 80's mall. Actually, Chick Fil A opened up one of it's first locations in this mall in the early 80s!! Most people don't believe me but it is true!! Anyway, Roanoke was a bustling little town with great middle class jobs and then came the 2000's, and with that the jobs left as did the wonderful era ole Tanglewood. Thanks for the great memories of my youth!!
Yeah, we had a Chick Fil A in our mall in the early/mid 80's in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
In high school, I worked at Chick Fil A in Valley View mall. We’d go to Tanglewood to visit our counterparts on “the other side of town” on Friday nights if we were off.
Moved here in '89 and was always my favorite mall, mostly because it wasn't as crowded as Valley View, closer to where I lived and had a TJ Maxx and Steinmarts.
Omg that’s where I live. I remember they used to have commercials that they only showed during the holidays and it was filled with crowded people but that was never the reality.
I live here in the Salem area..
Matty J Man, my condolences to you all living in the Salem/Roanoke area. That place has TRULY become a collapsed, former manufacturing town. There is an ENORMOUS amount of decay in that area from the number of street lights which either don’t work or the city doesn’t have enough money to keep them in operation, to the crumbling sidewalks and potholes that litter, virtually that entire area. When I was trapped there in a snowstorm about a year ago, the city only cleared 1 1/2 of the 2 lanes on Hwy 11, making driving through that area even more dangerous than the snow itself! I really hope you guys who live in that area start to wake up and realize that you are TRULY being screwed due to the systemic nature of the economic system that we live in. I travel through quite a few places in the south and Roanoke/Salem has got to be one of the worst places that I’ve been around and through quite extensively.
I remember those same commercials. Was never the case. Even in mall's haydays, Tanglewood was always dead.
@@chrisulmer694 stfu
Hey Ace,
I'm from Roanoke VA and have been to tanglewood on a few occasions. Thank you for giving this place a spotlight as I love it in its own special way as much as I love Valley View. I'm actually quite sad to think about it leaving.
As a kid in the early to mid 80’s, there was a bank close to K&W. My dad had the contract to clean those bank branches and he’d let me come with him on Friday nights when he cleaned that branch. I remember Tanglewood being so packed on Friday nights. It’s sad to see Tanglewood looking like this. Every tine I’m in Roanoke I make a point to stop by.
This was my favorite place to go as a kid when they had the comic shop,the arcade and k&w was bomb
I moved to Roanoke in July of 86 right before my 4th grade year. Roanoke was such an awesome place back then, great jobs and great shopping. To illustrate how different Roanoke is vs 30 years ago….back in the 80s and 90s the high end jewelers Finks had a shop on the lower level next to Leggetts. This store had every Rolex watch made at the time as well as Tag, Omega, etc…. People spent big money in that mall. There were actually 2 Hallmark stores, and this was in a mall that was not very big!
So nostalgic, I remember going there as a kid and my mom wanting to go to ac Moore and I had to wait until she was done so we could go to gamestop. Chick-fil-A was the best there, it still smells like it up there on the second floor, good memories
I worked there at Chess King in ancient history.
I remember that shop. :D
My Sunday night ritual snacks and dead malls. Am I not right?😂
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My hometown!! My mom use to have a seasonal shop there in the early mid 90's. Definitely a shell of what it was.
P.s. the nickname for K&W is Kanes & Walkers.
That was the best k&w .. it was tucked away in the corner... I miss that place !
Thanks for doing a video on this mall. I live in Roanoke. I remember the old food court. Not much back there then even in the late 90's. A Taco Bell and a Chinese food place and a small arcade. It is walled off now. The "french quarter" I barely remember I remember the Bradley's and when it was empty one curtained area at the mall entrance there was a traveling video game museum of sorts that was there for a few months.
When I did my video not too long ago I completely forgot to get the sign. Now it is gone. Used to be all white bulbs with scrolling text before the current one
Forgot to ad. In the late 90's I worked at that K&W for a few months. Horrible job but I needed work and it kept the bills paid
CamperMike I live in Roanoke too! I was on a dead mall video binge when this popped up and surprised me!
That cafeteria could come straight out of a Twin Peaks scene!
Someone needs to video the OLDEST MALL IN THE US thats almost dead! Its the NorthGate Mall in Seattle WA!
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Love the K&W Cafeteria at the end! It's been so long since I've seen a place like that in person. Love how 80's looking it is, plus it looks well kept and appears to still be doing well.
It’s closed now😢
@@andrewperdue3266 Oh no! That's really such a shame. I hate to hear that. :(
The only K&W Cafeteria I ever ate at was in Matthews, NC. Honestly, it is probably one of the best cafeteria -style restaurants out there. Miss it alot!
It was awesome. The only mall I ever liked
When I was an editor at deadmalls.com fifteen years ago we would always get emails saying this place wasn’t dead. 🤣🤦♀️
As a resident of Roanoke, yes it is. Only old people and mall walkers go there. Especially since the GameStop and other stores closed
I used to go here a lot when I was younger
It's sad.
I remember the arcade on the second floor.
Since your so close you should do Valley View Mall.
If you're heading now do Staunton Mall.
I forgot about the K & W.
Do you know about Crosswords Mall? That was the first mall in the area.
There is a K & W near there.
Great food, you should check it out.
The arcade "TIME OUT" was awesome. I spent so much money there. Back in the early 80's, it was the place to be. Times certainly have changed.
@@tjsilver7325
Yes I'm from Natural Bridge and I would hangout with my cousins who lived near crossroads mall.
We would ride our bikes there and mess around at the mall and arcade spending all our money.
Times were different back then and it was safer.
Of course you can't forget about LakeSide amusement park.
We had some great times.
Valley View has gotten bad. It's kinda sad.
@@charlesmassie8938
Yes that's true.
loved K&W and the French Quarter
I moved away about a year ago, but I spent a lot of time there even in recent years. There is (was?) a Thai rolled ice cream shop at one of the entrances/exits called Champloo Desserts and my girlfriend and I loved that place.
The coconut pie from K&W is the best
It was our favorite! This recipe is exactly like it!
Ingredients
3 cups whole milk, divided
1 cup sugar
1/8 tap salt
6 Tablespoons cornstarch
1 cup sweetened flaked coconut
3 Tablespoons real butter
1 Tablespoon vanilla extract
1 whole pie crust 9 inch prebaked per crust directions
For topping
1 cup heavy whipping cream
2 Tablespoons sugar
1/2 tsp vanilla
Whip together until firm
Instructions
In a large saucepan combine 2 cups milk sugar and salt. Bring to a boil over medium heat. Meanwhile combine remaining 1 cup of milk with cornstarch in a bowl. Mix together well and then add to the hot mixture. Cook stirring occasionally until mixture thickens. Add the coconut, butter and vanilla. Cook until mixture thickens again. Pour into baked pie crust shell and cool in fridge. When ready to serve top with whipped topping❤️
Please keep us posted on what the future will be for the Tanglewood mall interesting it find out.
Love the K&W Cafeteria
Wow I remember when this mall was booming back in the 80's
That's cool you made it to Roanoke Virginia. That's home to UA-cam user dieselducy. He films elevators all around the United States and in Roanoke. He's another big channel. If anybody likes elevators you should go check him out. That's who I think when you say Roanoke Virginia
I moved here to Roanoke in 2008 and it was dead then. They just announced earlier this week that Steinmart is now closing.
The chicken in that k and w is so GOOD
When a college or church comes to your mall you might as well just close it.
Not necessarily. There's a church in our mall, and the mall's doing just fine. It's only lost one anchor (Sears). One of its other anchors is doing so well, it actually built an expansion in 2016, doubling its square footage. (But yeah, I agree with you that it *usually* isn't good news when a church moves in. When I found out that there was a church in our mall, even I was alarmed. No need to worry yet, though, our mall is still at about 80% occupancy.)
@@SpearM3064 As long as those church people mind their own business and don't approach random people passing by, it can be okay.
@@luxembourger They don't approach random people, because it would be considered soliciting, which is not allowed. About all they can do is to put flyers outside, so that anyone who wants to pick one up can do so. As far as I know (I don't go to the mall often, and especially not on a Sunday), they mind their own business.
What a cute little mall. I love K&W Cafeteria's down south. Such a great deal for great comfort foods. It's cool to see there is a location inside the mall. The shoppers are lucky.
The problem was design, they forced you like cattle to go past every store to go up or down lvls. Just two escalators located on opposite ends, the food court stairs was useless. Thats the first thing i noticed when it was occupied.
I love 1 hour and 45 min north of this mall and remember going to it as a kid in the early 00’s.
If you're ever back in the area, you might want to take a look at the mall again. Carilion Clinic's totally revamped the old JC Penny. Basically they gutted the building and put in a pediatric center as well as a development center and a specialty pharmacy. The mall has also added outer shops and eateries. I've heard that VDOT's got plans to redo the 581 and Tanglewood interchange to a roundabout.
My aunt and uncle live right near Tanglewood, we go past it all the time, it's definitely part of the history of Roanoke, i hope they revamp it soon. People spend more time at Valley View Mall near my neighborhood. Seems like that's the go to place.
Update from a local: K and W, AC Moore, Stein Mart, and GameStop have all closed. The mall is just a corpse at this point.
I'm glad Michael's took the spot where AC Moore was instead of it sitting empty.
I like the history behind these malls and the newsreels. Seniors will appreciate a restaurant like that cafeteria because it has what all businesses used to have. Starting with the nice friendly lady at the front to the great atmosphere and the fine foods. Everything in my area is now fast food. Every business in my area is a discount store. All the others were trying to make a profit so they didn't advertise discounts and promise free refunds so they are closed. It was sure good to see a thriving business. 😄👍
Great video! I have so many memories of K and W with my grandparents. Food is so good too
aww what a great footage, i cant remember the last time i went to a mall. i love the sound of a restaurant
Fun to see a cafeteria still in a mall. They used to be relatively common in the 60s and 70s but you don't see them that much anymore. Usually they were pretty good and I bet this one is too.
I've never been to Roanoke, so I've never seen this mall. Looks like it was an impressive place at one time!
It’s a beautiful building. I still like to walk inside though with AC Moore closing I won’t have much reason to go to the mall proper. Roanoke is a beautiful city in the spring and summer, lots of outdoorsy things to do!
It was a really good mall, until Valley View Mall was built on the other side of town. Then it started losing businesses, and steadily declined. Ive heard from some who still work there, that supposedly new shops are coming in. I certainly hope so. It's a nice mall on a good part of town, very convenient too.
I was here once back in the 90's it was still doing well back then. Roanoke is just not big enough to support 2 malls.
dvferyance it’s really not; I’m surprised the valley view area in general does as well as it does
Citizen here....I grew up with Tanglewood Mall long before Valley View Mall was opened. So many memories!!!
This mall HAD IT ALL!
great mall for social distancing .... I live here (not in the mall) but grew up going here all the time. It used to be a GREAT mall with toy stores, chess king, merry-g0-round clothing (SP), Radioshack, tons of food options, brendles, A PET STORE with Dogs, Orange Julius, Magic, and all sorts of shops.... The crowds were huge back in the 90s... Now is is a dead man's land where you can ear echos in every corner. Rumor is they are putting a medical facility in part of the mall (Carillion)
Omg I was NOT prepared for the music to start so emphatically like that 😂 I’m from Roanoke and this mall didn’t used to be dead. I have so many memories of that place growing up. But the past decade has not been kind, as you can see.
i love your dead mall videos thank you
Wow, such a clean nice facility, too bad it's dead like that
It really is a nice place. I remember going as a kid (must have been already kind of dying by then it was only ~15 years ago.) I still remember the little coin funnel thing they had.
I wish I would’ve seen the days where the mall was busier. Everyone goes to valley view, you don’t catch many people saying they’re heading over to Tanglewood often.
Old people love K & W Cafeteria. It's a great place to eat.
Chad deez I’m consistently the youngest person there when I go but my family and I love it!
@@Softshelldiety I'd rather go there than Golden Corral. It's getting harder to find good cafeterias.
My kids call it Kanes and Walkers😆
I’ve been watching dead mall videos for years. Then the other day I just happened into this place. Was so fascinating being inside a dead mall for the first time. Also I gotta say, the bubble tea place in there is pretty good, stop by if you get a chance.
I grew up in Roanoke. Lived right near Tanglewood junior high through high school.
I moved here in 2004 and that mall was way past dead even back then.....
Great live stream and that seam like a cool mall at one time and take care my friend
I used to go to this mall every now and then when I used to live at least 45 minutes away from Roanoke. I do remember on a regular day or even on a Saturday, that mall didn't have a lot of people going through it. But, it would get a bit busy on Black Friday. For me, it's different to see how that mall looks now compared to how it looked since the last time I went there several years ago.
I live here in the Roanoke valley! Thanks for stopping by
I'm from Virginia and I used to go to the mall a lot with my mother when I was younger. It used to have a few stores that I liked. And they used to have a big Christmas display and my mom would take me to see Santa' there sometimes. But Valley View was the mall my mother and I went to a lot more and we still do. It has all the stores that I liked and is always busy. Tanglewood always seams empty to me now. I felt kinda sad when we would walk around and see hardly anything. My mom liked going into AC Moore and they used to have a comic book store at one point that I liked. Other than that, I don't really remember any store there that i really liked. I do wish that they could do a remodeling and bring in new stores to the mall. I'd love to see them bring it back someway.
They'd probably be ok if they didn't try to keep valley view from being built
Sad to see the sign come down. 😭
so happy to see this! Close to my hometown
In 1985 to compete against the opening of Valley View Mall, Tanglewood did a complete renovation removing the iconic fountains and replaced them with new fountains. The sole surviving fountain is the one in the middle but in 1985, the colors were blue, green, neon, and had a Mediterranean look about it throughout the whole mall.
I remember the Tanglewood Mall well, even though I only stopped in there twice, impressive in its day. Big Lots had also maintained a store there in part of the old Woolco for several years, until they consolidated with its store near Valley View Mall some years ago. And of note, AC Moore (the arts and crafts store) filed bankruptcy and may be either shutting or revamping to Michaels, not sure yet. And K&W (next to the old Kroger) is a decent place to eat, actually, it's a chain based in Winston-Salem, NC, my old hometown, and locations throughout the Carolinas and Virginias. If you're back in the area, Ace, might also check out the old Crosstown Mall (not far from Valley View) and Valley View Mall, both up the road by the Roanoke Airport, since they've both been going thru some serious changes over the years.
Huh, you speak of crossroads mall do you? I thought that place was demolished two years ago.
They are adding a hospital to the mall
I've been waiting for you to cover this mall since I've watched the channel.
My parents met at the JCPenney that used to be in this mall, so I exist because this place existed! My mom worked there and my dad kept coming in there as a customer just to talk to her.
Love this! Met my husband at Tanglewood Mall in 1990, teased hair and all! LoL I need to show my kids the exact spot where it all began!
My gpa works at the k&w there
The cafeteria looks pretty cool and the desserts look amazing.
To its credit, Tanglewood held out for a good bit, I think until like around 2009ish I would’ve still been actively shopping there. Now it’s like “do I want to walk down memory lane on my way to the Five Guys”.
“Tanglewood’s not dead, it has a Bath & Body Works!”
wow - that cafeteria is huge!
The state or county or whoever is actually attempting to revive this mall!! Chili's just came there, Pop Eye's is coming and a couple other stores have been rumored to be stuck in there
It is now Anglewood.
It wasn’t ironic that you were there just before the sign came down, it was a coincidence.
You should see it now!! It's changed!
Can't wait to see this!
That restaurant was awesome indeed,
Chesterfield Mall in Chesterfield Missouri is going to be mostly torn down and rebuilt for multiple things. The Mall Looks Gorgeous and it's such a shame I never got to see it when it was busy. I thankfully got pictures but Be a great show for you and those who do what you do. Please video save the mall.
K&W is literally the best thing that’s ever happened to humans, and I am terrified that as old people die and young people continue to (not K&W), we will lose the privilege forever.
Funny in Richmond Va. we had S&W Cafeteria I wonder if there is any relation? Are you going towards Richmond? I hope to see more about my old fave Regency Square (Half Dead I hear) and Willow Lawn First they built it as an outdoor in the early 60's then changed it to an indoor in the late 80's now BACK to outdoor! lol
With the internet and Amazon malls are becoming something of the past
Looked like a nice mall
You should have a look st Springhill Mall in Dundee, Illinois. Two of their anchor stores are closing, Macy’s and Sears.
9:09 lol yup Kanes and Walkers.
That's a lovely mall.
Why did they make new Tanglewood mall signs outside if it's DEAD?!
Ace! Major Correction. This mall you see here is from the second renovation in 1995z
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Gotta love my town that has a dead mall lol
The most people I’ve seen in here recently was for the midnight release of Red Dead Redemption 2 when GameStop was still open
I was wondering when Tanglewood would be on here. I moved to Roanoke almost 7 years ago and have been saying since then that this was destined to become a dead mall. I was wondering when someone was going to talk about it. If you get a chance you should go to Aviation Mall in Queensbury NY too. That place is horrible. They can't keep stores in there.
Hey I just saw this video so what's up with this place now in July 2022
I remember going to this mall back just after StarWars episode 1 came out. There were two geeky guys calling out Weird All Yankovic for being too "Harsh" with the line, "Maybe Vader some day later, but he's just a small fry"
One of the dudes called it harsh like ten times, almost like he just learned what "Harsh" meant.
Anyway, they still have a 5 guys!
This is Diesel Ducy’s Mall!!