I think the fact that Jon stopped reading when he saw the part about the rape shows just how much he cares about Sansa's feelings. He didn't want to upset or embarrass her further by reading it in front of her and everyone else. He's a good big brother.
I honestly believe Jon and Sansa are destined to fall in love with each other.. They want the same things in the books. They are the only characters that say they are alone. And the ones that want to rebuild Winterfell. The quote associated with "You know nothing Jon Snow" is also connected with Sansa when he thinks of Sansa in the books. I Also believe the only other starks that were named Jonnel and Sansa were related and they married too. and Jonnel was Sansa HALF brother of her fathers. In this case was a hint from RR Martin right there.
Dany and Jon wont last very long. I do agree they will hook up at sometime but they wont last as soon as Jon finds out its his Aunt Or if Jon falls in love with someone else... Let me elaborate a lil. This is what I think what will happen in the BOOKS and why I believe D&D put Jon and Sansa together in the last season. I think Jon will actually meet up with Dany first in the books. Jon will come back from the dead and leave the nights watch and charge after the Boltons, Then once he wins that back he will look for people for help with the real war. Jon finds out Dany comes to Westeros, Dany offers a marriage. Jon takes it to help with the war so basically it will be political. Jon later on goes to the Vale TO Tell them whats coming and to get more help to defeat the others and sees Alayne {Bastard Sansa} While she is to be married to Harry, Jon and Sansa fall in love. Jon takes Sansa. and it will be a huge deal . This fits Dany prophecy also "Three treasons you will know, with her last husband which will be Jon. the betrayal will be for LOVE. Meaning Jon betrays Dany for love. So who fits ?? Sansa. Go to Sansa chapter and Jon's chapter, it proves this. Here's a Sansa quote. When her Aunt is trying to marry Sansa to her COUSIN Robin. "No matter its not me they want its my title, NO one will ever MARRY ME FOR LOVE, BUT LYING BECAME EASIER TO HER NOW" Interesting enough Jon is offered Sansa title in the books as well by Stannis and Jon denies Sansa title. Meaning Jon could very well be that man that will not want her fro her title but for her love. Also there was an interesting quote in the books that both Jon and Sansa say. Sansa in the books, in the sept room, is walking in and it says the candles were lit with rainbow of colors the singing was PULLING AT HER. Singing is a texual evidence to Sexual encounters in GOT. It Also says a man whos "watch has ended" was standing beside her when she walked in. Jon thinks the exact same thing in the books and says he sees a room filled with candles ...Some say it could be a hint to Jon and Sansa wedding and them having a sexual encounter afterwards obviously. They also put this in the show, when Sansa marries Tyrion, Tyrion tell Sansa he will not share her bed until she wants him to, Sansa then replies and says what if I never want you to? Tyrion then says "And so my watch begins" Funny how they added Jon in there on her wedding night. Sansa also states that she looks up at the clouds and sees greys and red and blacks in one house. Red and Greys are Targ and Starks. Jon is a Targ not a Stark Then Jon thinks of Greys and Blacks as well..Hmmmm.. When Sansa is building her SNOW CASTLE tho, that's is laden and said to definitely be foreshadowing . It states this. Drifted SNOW flakes brushed her face as light as a LOVERS KISS" She could Feel the SNOW ON her lashes and TASTE the SNOW on her LIPS.JON?. Still not convinced? Sansa dreams of having a daughter that looks like Arya. Jon and Arya are always mentioned in the books that they look like eachother. Does this mean he will have children with Sansa? About what u said with Sansa and jOn still being siblings, ok, this is what confuses me.. Jon and Sansa are repeated many times to not having a relationship as family much. In fact Martin puts this in there constantly. Why is that? What is he trying to imply? You say Jon looks at her as a sister but do you remember this quote? "He missed even Sansa , who never called him anything but HALF BROTHER". Now go to Sansa. "She hadn't thought of Jon in ages. He might be my HALF BROTHERr , but with Robb and Bran and Rickon dead he was the only brother she had, But Alayne HAD NO BROTHER" The fact that she is playing a BASTARD right now {HINTS JON} and she doesn't think to even have brothers anymore implies she still doesn't really think of Jon as a brother either. I think Sansa will very much be the BETRAYAL Dany has to deal with . Think about it , every man Dany has ever met has wanted her. Jon will be doing it for Political. It will play out good knowing she cant have the one man she will fall in love with. Not to mention Ygritte Is always telling Jon about him kidnaping her constantly but he says he didn't. What if this is actually what happens in the future and Sansa gets kidnapped by Jon? Sansa is also said to be kidnapped too..Also when Ygritte is telling Jon the story about the Winter Rose and how they pick the most beautiful flower and kidnaps her and she becomes pregnant is a hint about Jons parentage but interesting enough in the next chapter Sansa actually is "FLOWERED" and starts her period. Both Lyanna and Sansa receives a rose at the Tourney. I believe Jon to be Rheagar and Dany to be Ellia and Sansa to be Lyanna all over again. History will be repeated and Will actually match Sansa to finally have her prince in the end after her horrible relationships . Also Sansa is always talking about Aemon the Dragon knight and his sister he falls in love with. By calling it there doomed love" ANd Jon actually trys to be Aemon when Robb and Jon use to play .Then go to when Ned tells Sansa this " ill make you a match with someone worthy of you , Someone brave, gentle and strong, this boy is no PRINCE AEMON" In fact some say Jon's real name will be Aemon. Here's the quote that could add to that. Jon says "He's no PRIINCE AEMON " right after Ned tells Sansa that. Also if D&D know how it will end, it makes sense why they rushed and changed Sansa storyline a little bit on the show. It was to meet up with Jon faster. Of course the show will make it a little different and they made Sansa being the one that meets Jon first because there is no time for it on the show for him to meet Dany first when they still have her in the same spot. Plus they need Jon and Sansa to establish something first in the show for the audience to feel comfortable with. Because of the whole incest thing. But in the books they could pull it off ok. So in the show they will have Jon and Sansa establish something and them to not react to it yet because they still think they are brother and sister in the show. Dany goes and meets Jon and then you have that love triangle again. Jon finds out hes related to Dany and knows he can have Sansa , Jon betrays Dany for love and goes to Sansa. And there you have it. Also find it funny that MArtin made Jon attracted to RED HEADS and interesting enough he grew up with one. in fact in the show in season one and FOUR D&D put that in there both with Jon conversating with Sam. Jon tells Sam in season 1 he was going to have sex with Ross and lose his virginity but he didn't want her to get PREGNANT. And in season 4 Sam asks Jon what was Ygritte like? And Jon just says this. "SHE HAD RED HAIR. Funny how the Directors did this and added it. HINT HINT ANYONE?
'Let me give you some advice, bastard. Never forget who you are, the rest of the world will not. Wear it like armour and it can never be used to hurt you.' It's nice to see Jon took Tyrion's advice to his heart eventually :-). Perhaps Ramsey should have had a Tyrion-like figure next to him, too, not to be so obssessed by the fact he is a bastard :-D. The repeating of the word Bastard is meant as an insult towards Jon but Ramsey couldn't have known Jon is more in peace with the fact he's a bastard than Ramsey is. I see it not only as an insult but also as a clue abou Ramsey - he hates the fact of being bastard himself so much. It was pretty obvious in the earlier episodes with Ramsey's interactions with Roose (who never happened to forget to remind Ramsey he's not a Bolton). So... Yeah, it's just logical he keeps repeating the word.
I love that little exchange between Sansa and Edd. After Sansa says that there's more important things and he gives a little smile. I feel like this shows his level of friendship with Jon because he's even trying to help his sister feel comfortable
@@mirandapineda6524 that’s actually not accurate and it’s a misreading of her character made up of people who dislike her. In the books Sansa is too much of a lady to ever say something discourteous about the food (even if she might think it like everyone else) even Arya acknowledges this at one point in the book that Sansa was too lady like to be outright rude unless I’m situations where she temporarily lost her cool. Of course she has her moments, especially when fighting with Arya. But even younger Sansa would have had the same reaction here. She’s too lady like to snuff her nose up at the food in front of Edd, even if it’s disgusting.
Sansa reaching for Jon was so cute. She's trying to make them a family, to remind him of what could still be, if they find everyone and take back the north.
Anh Triệu well I dont think he's good with his Tongue...Davos is, petyr is, tyrion is, varys is and so on But jon does say the truth and is the only one Who tries to do what is right. thats why the People are rally behind him...cause he has the heart and strenght to win the war they have to go through.
You know what I love about this scene ? Tormund. Jon doesn't even need to ask for his help, he offers it by asking how many men Ramsay has. He could have asked Sansa to go back to Ramsay in order to save his people but no. He didn't. He is ready to fight for Jon and her, because *she* is the one who's really in danger here. This single line proves how great Tormund is, and is one of the reason I love him so much.
Ai Megurine that's because he's smarter than he looks, he knows the boltons would never accept the wildlings even if they give Sansa to him. He knows he'll get fucked if he trusts Ramsay would just leave them alone when he has Sansa, plus he's got mad respect for jon
dolorous edd is by far my favorite character in the entire story lol. the guy who just keeps on getting more and more annoyed at the fact that fate always chooses to spare him while the whole world keeps dying around him hes got some really funny scenes in the show, like the one here. but hes got so many more in the books :D
I love how Sansa is still used to her princess-ways, being courteous and kind of arrogant. Yet, in this scene, she shows that although she used to better food, she has learnt to appreciate what she has and be humble about it.
I always eat alone or kinda feels like it since our family table won't fit us all at the same time. So I know the feeling when all the people im with is eating at the same time as me. Its the best meal atm.
for a moment I thought Sansa was reminded of the woman Ramsay skined alive. Mutton and human flesh must be very similar, and I wouldn´t eat meat anymore if I had that kind of image in my brain
Honestly Edd is adorable in this scene when he apologizes about the food. You can tell how awkward he is around people doesn't properly know. I like him as a character and I hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as Gendry and Pippen. RIP Gendry and Pippen. RIP.
Clayton Peterson RIP Gendry??????? What are you talking about dude??? Gendry's alive!!! Even if he hadn't made his triumphant return in S#7, Gendry was never even dead to begin with as he was last seen rowing out to sea after Davos set him free before Melisandre could sacrifice him!!!
Honestly, this scene warmed my heart. This is probably the first time Sansa sat with someone who loves her and no one who wants to break her at a table since season one. I loved this so much.
I think it shows how desperate he is. I mean from a purely strategical point of view, you don't want anyone to rape your wife because what if she bears the child of some foot soldier instead of your child? And plenty of women die in childbirth so you may never get a second chance.
Walrus Latte you think Ramsay would give a shit ? He had the north he didn't need Sansa or any of the starks in his eyes because he held the north so he just wanted Sansa back as his play thing, couldn't stand the fact her and reek escaped, and as for the raping and if one of them did get her pregnant he would just kill the child so on and so forth we all know Ramsay would easily kill a baby.
Ramsay's downfall was his hedonism. He DID need Sansa to hold the north, he needed legitimate heir so if he was smart he wouldn't have tortured her until he had at least two sons, "an heir and a spare." But Ramsay just LOVES torturing ppl so much he couldn't wait.
Yeah, the way he says "Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North" you can tell that the idea of anyone other then a Stark claiming those titles really gets to him
Ramsay has the rightful Lord of Winterfell in his dungeon, while Jon has the future rightful Lady of Winterfell (given Bran's refusal) in his care. It shows the difference in their honour.
I like how Sansa definitely knew that she wasn't getting Rickon back, but she still used him as motivation to get Jon to agree. She sneaky, and I like.
I don't think she knew that until the parlay with Ramsay where he threw the head of Shaggydog. Cuz it's after that when she tells Jon they're never going to see him again.
@@estherruth4692 I disagree, Sansa knew what Ramsay was, and Rickon was the true heir to Winterfell, she knew how Ramsay treated the threats of his claim
@@zzzxxzzxxcxc But even if she did know it before Shaggydog's probably at that moment she hadn't thought properly about it and still had hope. The idea of Rickon dying as the only resolution wouldn't come at her at once
i love how ramsay put in so much effort into this letter. like he couldve just said surrender or die. i cant stop imagining him making this up somewhere in his room with that grin on his face.
Jon’s final nod, and how he couldn’t read what Ramsey would do to Sansa out loud is something any big brother would do I think. Being super ultra protective of their siblings but to upset to any anything else. His face only softened up to look at his little sister, which was sweet. I imagine if I had a big brother, he’d react the same way.
i like how Jon and the others are eating like animals (aka brothers) while Brienne and Sansa are just watching like 'wtf is wrong with these barbarians'
Problem is Jon is not really in the right frame of mind to fight. He's just been brought back from the dead and is pretty traumatised by the experience.
I picked up on that when he nods his head after Sansa takes his hand and pleads for him to help her take back Winterfell. You can see in his eyes the trauma is still affecting his internal process about deciding what to do.
Sansa was always the least Stark of them all. She wanted so badly to go down South because she believed it to be like the stories and songs, she was a Northerner by birth but a Southerner in her own mind. But she soon found out the hard way. And now this least Stark child (even less of a stark then Jon) is responsible for taking back Winterfell, restoring House Stark to its rightful place, and saving the North. I just love the irony of it (yes i know Jon did the fighting but the whole idea of taking back the North from the Bolton's was Sansa's idea on the first place)
The Starks are the good guys that all the show's funs need to root for and relate to, because every bloody movie has black and white, bad guys and good guys where the bad guys start winning but the good guys dodge all the bullets and triumph. That's what the masses want. So the Starks fill that role in GoT. The problem is that GoT is a fully realistic medieval society (well, aside from dragons and walkers that is) and in such a society, good and honorable guys get killed, because they are strategically stupid. So it makes perfect sense that Sansa, people's least favourite Stark and the least Stark of them all in terms of character and mindset, is the one to save their asses and make it possible for good-guy-perfect-warrior-and-king Jon to survive (after he was already killed once) and become King in da North. Sansa might actually win the game, or at least help her family win it and survive.
Exactly, she convinced Jon to do it all, he didn't even want to fight anymore (understandibly). Besides if she hadn't called on the Vale then all would have been lost. People love to blame Sansa for not telling Jon about it but Jon didn't even want to try, he was dead set at dying. It's obivous that he was kinda suicidal.
Dark Widow actually the battle of the bastard was lost because Jon make the mistake of attacking, I loved that part cause it makes him more human and in season 7 they are making him the mr.perfect
Man this scene was so strong. The letter gives me chills. These are medieval times, full of violence, cruelty and death. And even in an environment like this, Ramsay stands out as a sadistic and horrifying monster whose actions, thoughts and threats even leave people like Jon, Brienne and Tormund in chillful silence. Just loved him on the show.
@@firetopman You can still be loyal in rebellion and reserve judgement about whether now is the right time to publicly back an invasion. The Allies didn't liberate Paris until 1944. But they still wanted to right from 1940.
"She is still very damaged" - lol you'd be too if you had lost almost your entire family, were repeatedly raped/tortured, physically and mentally abused every single day for years...
I disagree, jaime and tyrion had better development. but even if she did, it's easy to have the most development when you initially have about as much character as a bowl of rice
“You will watch as my soldiers take turns raping your sister” it's heartbreaking because Sansa was the one who got the worst out of all the starks simply because she was a women (a little girl), and was man-handled & raped by their enemies while Bran or Jon or Rickon didn't experience the slightest of that. It's a cruel world. Honestly all Starks are survivors but Sansa is THE survivor.
“Simply because she was a woman”, so what about Arya? Why didn’t those things happen to her? Also the men on the show suffer tremendously as well, they die horribly on the battlefield and some are taken prisoner and tortured.
@@adewilson132Thanks arya had no one sansa had people who helped her.Arya literally went blind and was beaten up she be came a begger then that woman stabbed her then some days after she was chased by the same woman amd was bleeding her wound opened leaving a trail of blood every where she went. The only terrible thing sansa went through was being raped by ramsey the others were bad but not compared to what the other stark's went through
@@adewilson132Arya had rough path in the street, but she was (almost) never a captive, meanwhile Sansa was trapped with 2 families that were her family's enemies ( lannister & bolton) So actually sansa's position were more terrifying
dude jon was literally killed in a brutal way lmfao. he experienced fkn death. i would gladly be graped instead of being fkn killed. sansa wen through hell but it istn comparable to what jon experienced.
That moment when you realize that Sansa is a better strategist then Jon. Jon is good and loving, and carring but he's too good just like Ned. Ned was soo loyal that he got killed for it.
Okay but like Edd was the first person to be nice to Sansa in years with no ulterior motive or preexisting relationship/alliance. Like sure Jon is nice to her, he's family. Brieanne and Podrick are nice to her but they're there because of an oath. Tormund is lovestruck and probably doesnt realize she's there. Margaery and Ollena were nice but still using her for their own purpose. But Edd was just like a genuinely nice dude who was kind to her because that's who he is.
I love Brienne's facial expressions; they're priceless. Although it would be weird in terms of a marital alliance, I think that Jon and Sansa would make a great team ruling the North. She knows very well how to play the game at this point, and could unite the Tully forces and bannermen, if not the North; Jon has the support of the Free Folk and remaining Black Brothers, and is somewhat well versed in military tactics. They are both leaders in their own right. Should Daenerys be successful in conquering Westeros, I would hope that the North remain independent, ruled by one of the Starks.
I love that murderous look Tormund gives Jon, when he reads "I will slaughter every wildling man, woman and babe.." Goes to show what exactly he would do if he found Ramsay in front of him.
I dont expect the writers to rememver it, but I think Lyanna Mormont should help. She would finally be helping a Queen of the North whose name is Stark.
I thought about if it had been Robb reading that letter he would have read it all the way through his face would have been riddled with anger. Jon's reaction is so interesting and his concern for Sansa's feelings was evident. We don't really see his full anger until he is beating Ramsay down. Although I know most of those punches were for Rickon, I think some of them were definitely for Sansa.
I love the contrast between Jon and Edd (and Tormund I suppose, but he's there making heart-eyes at Brienne and being all seductive with munching on a ????) eating, and Sansa and Brienne (maybe Pod?) eating. Living up there on the Wall for so long, Jon and Edd (and Tormund!) are used to eating like there won't be more tomorrow, used to dining on food that's there mainly for sustenance rather than taste. And since they're not living a courtly life, with a whole host of men - most of whom are criminals, outcasts, and low-borns - so what even are table manners. They're chowing down on their food, slurping and using their hands. Brienne, Sansa, and Pod have at least eaten better food without the worry of lacking, and they've been among gentry for a larger portion of their lives. They're fiddling with utensils, arms mostly to themselves, and hesitant about the odd bland-tasting food - which Edd notes and apologizes for, which I find quite sweet if I dare say so myself. (Also them being in a strange place would have something to do with their awkwardness.)
Tormund's in love! I love that it was Sansa who put the fight back into Jon Snow. I love it that she has really become Ned Stark's daughter. I can't wait to see Arya, Bran, Sansa and Jon reunited!
It does. Sansa was/is totally not like a Stark. Starks (at least the Starks including Ned and his children) are wild, fierce, loyal, brutally honest, defenders of the innocent, and are willing to Die for what they believe. Sansa was the opposite of All those things from the beginning, while on the other hand, Ned's other children (Arya, Jon, Rob, etc) totally exemplified those traits. Sansa's disregard of Micah the butchers boy's death at the hands of Joffrey, plus her willingness to turn on Arya in favor of Joffrey seals the deal about her as being the most Un-Starklike child of Ned Ever!
Undriel Grenger As time had gone on however she has rediscovered her Starkness. That’s the beauty of her arc. She may have left that behind at some point but it was always with her and that is what helped her to survive.
gotta love that look Tormund has as he's listening to Jon read the letter. Tormund looks like he's envisioning tearing Ramsey's head from his shoulders.
The way that Sansa’s breathing changed when John read that Ramsay had Rikon… she didn’t show weakness in this scene but in that moment you can see how terrified she was for her brother’s life
Season 6 is actually way better than I remember it. Considering they're past the books by this point and they're doing their own thing, just about everything's on point.
It’s one of my favourite parts of the whole sixth season, I so love the Jon and Sansa relationship, and the way Jon looks when Sansa’s rape is in the letter
+J Cee I also thought it was Littlefinger but Ramsay wrote the letter. This was confirmed by Dan Sackheim : www.techinsider.io/game-of-thrones-pink-letter-fan-theories-2016-5
The letter from the book in case people were interested (it refers to a lot of cool subplots and changes the show dropped and it’s up to debate about how much is accurate like Stannis’ being dead or not: “Bastard, Your false king is dead, bastard. He and all his host were smashed in seven days of battle. I have his magic sword. Tell his red whore. Your false king's friends are dead. Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell. Come see them, bastard. Your false king lied, and so did you. You told the world you burned the King-Beyond-the-Wall. Instead you sent him to Winterfell to steal my bride from me. I will have my bride back. If you want Mance Rayder back, come and get him. I have him in a cage for all the north to see, proof of your lies. The cage is cold, but I have made him a warm cloak from the skins of the six whores who came with him to Winterfell. I want my bride back. I want the false king's queen. I want his daughter and his red witch. I want this wildling princess. I want his little prince, the wildling babe. And I want my Reek. Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard's heart and eat it. Ramsay Bolton, Trueborn Lord of Winterfell.”
Most unrealistic part is that if the Boltons have Rickon Stark; the Manderlys would be lining up to support Jon, which would be like +3,000 soldiers. At would the Glovers +500, the Flints +1,000, and all sorts of other Northern Lords +1,000. Jon would be marching on Winterfell with an army of nearly 8,000 men, with the Vale adding easily 20,000 men pledging their support via Sansa. With the Karstarks and Umbers paling around in Winterfell they'd see the writing on the wall, would secure Rickon and would kill Ramsay, surrender Winterfell and Rickon in exchange for pardons (which Jon would accept). They obviously wanted the Battle Of The Bastards, but it was terribly written.
It’s worth mentioning that the phrase “come and see” is pulled directly out of the Book of Revelations. In particular, the phrase is used just before the appearance of each of the four horsemen. In all likelihood, the writers are foreshadowing how the Battle of the Bastards will, in at least a few ways, be the unleashing of Hell upon earth.
someone should probably tell the writers of the show there are 5,000 northern mountain clansmen that are insanely loyal to the starks and didnt march south with robb so are just sat there waiting for a raven, in the books they quite literally jump at the idea to save rickon from the boltons, they would do anything for the starks.
ramseys whole like involves pain, pain means nothing to him he feeds off it if anything like a rabid dog pain would make him more unpredictible and more deadly cause ramsey took 20 men and basically slaughtered a camp now he his 5,000 +
Why didn't Jon just fuck Melisandre and impregnate her with another shadow baby killer, that they could send after Ramsay? Problem solved. Melisandre was the most valuable weapon in Jon's arsenal and look what he did... banished her because of that idiot Davos crying over that little girl.
Show these scenes to someone who has no context of their relationship, the looks the hand holding the amount of influence she exerts on Jon it's all tell tale signs of a romance
When Sansa spoke to Edd, that look on his face was a mirror of how the North is enamoured by Sansa, future Queen in the North. She was that type of personality.
I don't blame Jon for eating as quickly as he was here. I'm just taking a very wild guess here (due to lack of personal experience), but I imagine being dead is very hungry work.
I think the fact that Jon stopped reading when he saw the part about the rape shows just how much he cares about Sansa's feelings. He didn't want to upset or embarrass her further by reading it in front of her and everyone else. He's a good big brother.
Actually cousin but sure...
Fair enough
Hell yeah! I have a younger sister. I would've done the same thing. Not to mention, get heated.
I honestly believe Jon and Sansa are destined to fall in love with each other.. They want the same things in the books. They are the only characters that say they are alone. And the ones that want to rebuild Winterfell. The quote associated with "You know nothing Jon Snow" is also connected with Sansa when he thinks of Sansa in the books. I Also believe the only other starks that were named Jonnel and Sansa were related and they married too. and Jonnel was Sansa HALF brother of her fathers. In this case was a hint from RR Martin right there.
Dany and Jon wont last very long. I do agree they will hook up at sometime but they wont last as soon as Jon finds out its his Aunt Or if Jon falls in love with someone else... Let me elaborate a lil. This is what I think what will happen in the BOOKS and why I believe D&D put Jon and Sansa together in the last season. I think Jon will actually meet up with Dany first in the books. Jon will come back from the dead and leave the nights watch and charge after the Boltons, Then once he wins that back he will look for people for help with the real war. Jon finds out Dany comes to Westeros, Dany offers a marriage. Jon takes it to help with the war so basically it will be political. Jon later on goes to the Vale TO Tell them whats coming and to get more help to defeat the others and sees Alayne {Bastard Sansa} While she is to be married to Harry, Jon and Sansa fall in love. Jon takes Sansa. and it will be a huge deal . This fits Dany prophecy also "Three treasons you will know, with her last husband which will be Jon. the betrayal will be for LOVE. Meaning Jon betrays Dany for love. So who fits ?? Sansa. Go to Sansa chapter and Jon's chapter, it proves this. Here's a Sansa quote. When her Aunt is trying to marry Sansa to her COUSIN Robin. "No matter its not me they want its my title, NO one will ever MARRY ME FOR LOVE, BUT LYING BECAME EASIER TO HER NOW" Interesting enough Jon is offered Sansa title in the books as well by Stannis and Jon denies Sansa title. Meaning Jon could very well be that man that will not want her fro her title but for her love. Also there was an interesting quote in the books that both Jon and Sansa say. Sansa in the books, in the sept room, is walking in and it says the candles were lit with rainbow of colors the singing was PULLING AT HER. Singing is a texual evidence to Sexual encounters in GOT. It Also says a man whos "watch has ended" was standing beside her when she walked in. Jon thinks the exact same thing in the books and says he sees a room filled with candles ...Some say it could be a hint to Jon and Sansa wedding and them having a sexual encounter afterwards obviously. They also put this in the show, when Sansa marries Tyrion, Tyrion tell Sansa he will not share her bed until she wants him to, Sansa then replies and says what if I never want you to? Tyrion then says "And so my watch begins" Funny how they added Jon in there on her wedding night. Sansa also states that she looks up at the clouds and sees greys and red and blacks in one house. Red and Greys are Targ and Starks. Jon is a Targ not a Stark Then Jon thinks of Greys and Blacks as well..Hmmmm.. When Sansa is building her SNOW CASTLE tho, that's is laden and said to definitely be foreshadowing . It states this. Drifted SNOW flakes brushed her face as light as a LOVERS KISS" She could Feel the SNOW ON her lashes and TASTE the SNOW on her LIPS.JON?. Still not convinced? Sansa dreams of having a daughter that looks like Arya. Jon and Arya are always mentioned in the books that they look like eachother. Does this mean he will have children with Sansa? About what u said with Sansa and jOn still being siblings, ok, this is what confuses me.. Jon and Sansa are repeated many times to not having a relationship as family much. In fact Martin puts this in there constantly. Why is that? What is he trying to imply? You say Jon looks at her as a sister but do you remember this quote? "He missed even Sansa , who never called him anything but HALF BROTHER". Now go to Sansa. "She hadn't thought of Jon in ages. He might be my HALF BROTHERr , but with Robb and Bran and Rickon dead he was the only brother she had, But Alayne HAD NO BROTHER" The fact that she is playing a BASTARD right now {HINTS JON} and she doesn't think to even have brothers anymore implies she still doesn't really think of Jon as a brother either. I think Sansa will very much be the BETRAYAL Dany has to deal with . Think about it , every man Dany has ever met has wanted her. Jon will be doing it for Political. It will play out good knowing she cant have the one man she will fall in love with. Not to mention Ygritte Is always telling Jon about him kidnaping her constantly but he says he didn't. What if this is actually what happens in the future and Sansa gets kidnapped by Jon? Sansa is also said to be kidnapped too..Also when Ygritte is telling Jon the story about the Winter Rose and how they pick the most beautiful flower and kidnaps her and she becomes pregnant is a hint about Jons parentage but interesting enough in the next chapter Sansa actually is "FLOWERED" and starts her period. Both Lyanna and Sansa receives a rose at the Tourney. I believe Jon to be Rheagar and Dany to be Ellia and Sansa to be Lyanna all over again. History will be repeated and Will actually match Sansa to finally have her prince in the end after her horrible relationships . Also Sansa is always talking about Aemon the Dragon knight and his sister he falls in love with. By calling it there doomed love" ANd Jon actually trys to be Aemon when Robb and Jon use to play .Then go to when Ned tells Sansa this " ill make you a match with someone worthy of you , Someone brave, gentle and strong, this boy is no PRINCE AEMON" In fact some say Jon's real name will be Aemon. Here's the quote that could add to that. Jon says "He's no PRIINCE AEMON " right after Ned tells Sansa that. Also if D&D know how it will end, it makes sense why they rushed and changed Sansa storyline a little bit on the show. It was to meet up with Jon faster. Of course the show will make it a little different and they made Sansa being the one that meets Jon first because there is no time for it on the show for him to meet Dany first when they still have her in the same spot. Plus they need Jon and Sansa to establish something first in the show for the audience to feel comfortable with. Because of the whole incest thing. But in the books they could pull it off ok. So in the show they will have Jon and Sansa establish something and them to not react to it yet because they still think they are brother and sister in the show. Dany goes and meets Jon and then you have that love triangle again. Jon finds out hes related to Dany and knows he can have Sansa , Jon betrays Dany for love and goes to Sansa. And there you have it. Also find it funny that MArtin made Jon attracted to RED HEADS and interesting enough he grew up with one. in fact in the show in season one and FOUR D&D put that in there both with Jon conversating with Sam. Jon tells Sam in season 1 he was going to have sex with Ross and lose his virginity but he didn't want her to get PREGNANT. And in season 4 Sam asks Jon what was Ygritte like? And Jon just says this. "SHE HAD RED HAIR. Funny how the Directors did this and added it. HINT HINT ANYONE?
This letter always makes me laugh. The way Ramsey kept saying Bastard as if he isn't one.
yeah and the 'come and see' thing, just sounds like a silly bully kid
I know right 😂
He wasn’t a bastard anymore, but Jon “still is” technically. It was just another way for Ramsey to get in Jon’s head.
'Let me give you some advice, bastard. Never forget who you are, the rest of the world will not. Wear it like armour and it can never be used to hurt you.'
It's nice to see Jon took Tyrion's advice to his heart eventually :-). Perhaps Ramsey should have had a Tyrion-like figure next to him, too, not to be so obssessed by the fact he is a bastard :-D.
The repeating of the word Bastard is meant as an insult towards Jon but Ramsey couldn't have known Jon is more in peace with the fact he's a bastard than Ramsey is. I see it not only as an insult but also as a clue abou Ramsey - he hates the fact of being bastard himself so much. It was pretty obvious in the earlier episodes with Ramsey's interactions with Roose (who never happened to forget to remind Ramsey he's not a Bolton). So... Yeah, it's just logical he keeps repeating the word.
So true
I love how he changed his hairstyle to typical "starkish" way :D
Erika Johanidesová and she did too.
he's not a stark he's a dragon
@@MrSoma1415 His true name may be Aegon Targaryen, but in practice he's more of a Stark than a Targaryen.
And his clothes
@@MrSoma1415 He's a Stark and a Dayne.
I love that little exchange between Sansa and Edd. After Sansa says that there's more important things and he gives a little smile. I feel like this shows his level of friendship with Jon because he's even trying to help his sister feel comfortable
I think it's a way to show how mature Sansa has become. Season 1 Sansa will be totally complaining about the food, but now she knows
It’s a beautiful interaction. Especially considering that Edd is known for being cynical
@@mirandapineda6524 that’s actually not accurate and it’s a misreading of her character made up of people who dislike her. In the books Sansa is too much of a lady to ever say something discourteous about the food (even if she might think it like everyone else) even Arya acknowledges this at one point in the book that Sansa was too lady like to be outright rude unless I’m situations where she temporarily lost her cool. Of course she has her moments, especially when fighting with Arya. But even younger Sansa would have had the same reaction here. She’s too lady like to snuff her nose up at the food in front of Edd, even if it’s disgusting.
Sansa reaching for Jon was so cute. She's trying to make them a family, to remind him of what could still be, if they find everyone and take back the north.
She will betray him, wait and see!
+Regina Phalange nah I Don't think so, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see
+Papilio 100% agree
Papilio
Wow, you pretty much called it.
Regina Phalange Sansa and Jon are siblings. Not biologically but they are still siblings. Sansa is not going to betray jon
"We don't know that"
"Yes we do!"
Sansa knows. Jon Snow as usual, you know nothing.
***** I was joking! It was a pun on the "you know nothing Jon Snow." Obviously he knows more than she will ever know. I agree with you ;)
Let me remind you that he is good with his tongue. And that makes all the difference in the world.
Anh Triệu well I dont think he's good with his Tongue...Davos is, petyr is, tyrion is, varys is and so on But jon does say the truth and is the only one Who tries to do what is right. thats why the People are rally behind him...cause he has the heart and strenght to win the war they have to go through.
+Amando Ygrite begs the differ.
Anh Triệu forget about that 😂
You know what I love about this scene ? Tormund. Jon doesn't even need to ask for his help, he offers it by asking how many men Ramsay has. He could have asked Sansa to go back to Ramsay in order to save his people but no. He didn't. He is ready to fight for Jon and her, because *she* is the one who's really in danger here. This single line proves how great Tormund is, and is one of the reason I love him so much.
Ai Megurine That and the fact Ramsey threatened the wildlings.
he could have asked Sansa to go back to Ramsay. he didn't.
I doubt Ramsay would have kept his word
Ride north kill the wildlings and Jon. Then Sansa wouldn't really have anyone to escape to either
Ai Megurine that's because he's smarter than he looks, he knows the boltons would never accept the wildlings even if they give Sansa to him. He knows he'll get fucked if he trusts Ramsay would just leave them alone when he has Sansa, plus he's got mad respect for jon
The way Edd just turns his head from Brienne and Tormund. Says it all
Its the quiet unspoken moments that make this show great.
He's wagering whether Tormund Giantsbane will become Tormund Nobane.
dolorous edd is by far my favorite character in the entire story lol. the guy who just keeps on getting more and more annoyed at the fact that fate always chooses to spare him while the whole world keeps dying around him
hes got some really funny scenes in the show, like the one here. but hes got so many more in the books :D
@@erbgorre after grenn died it became him for me
I love how Sansa is still used to her princess-ways, being courteous and kind of arrogant. Yet, in this scene, she shows that although she used to better food, she has learnt to appreciate what she has and be humble about it.
Yeah I see a bit of Sansa in me
Because she suffers alot
She just went to hell and back thanks to Theon who helped her escape, she sure appreciates being free again
this is probably the best meal Sansa has had since season 1.
Kevin Murphy the food wasn't the problem in Kings Landing, it was the company
Roisin Moloney exactly. That's why it was the best meal, not matter how bad it tastes
vale meals
I always eat alone or kinda feels like it since our family table won't fit us all at the same time. So I know the feeling when all the people im with is eating at the same time as me. Its the best meal atm.
she finally got to eat with family rather than captors
I love how the women are disgusted by the food but the guys are chowing down like it's their last meal. LOL
It might be the night king's coming
It looked good to me.
for a moment I thought Sansa was reminded of the woman Ramsay skined alive. Mutton and human flesh must be very similar, and I wouldn´t eat meat anymore if I had that kind of image in my brain
Beggars can't be choosers.
Mate shut the fuk up stating the obvious ya sad twat
Honestly Edd is adorable in this scene when he apologizes about the food. You can tell how awkward he is around people doesn't properly know. I like him as a character and I hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as Gendry and Pippen. RIP Gendry and Pippen. RIP.
Gendry and Pippen???
I think you mean Grenn and Pyp
Dude Gendry isn’t dead. Not yet. I like him.
Clayton Peterson RIP Gendry??????? What are you talking about dude??? Gendry's alive!!!
Even if he hadn't made his triumphant return in S#7, Gendry was never even dead to begin with as he was last seen rowing out to sea after Davos set him free before Melisandre could sacrifice him!!!
I’m from the future, sadly he didn’t survive the long night
Honestly, this scene warmed my heart. This is probably the first time Sansa sat with someone who loves her and no one who wants to break her at a table since season one. I loved this so much.
and that everyone, is how you write a threat.
I think it shows how desperate he is. I mean from a purely strategical point of view, you don't want anyone to rape your wife because what if she bears the child of some foot soldier instead of your child? And plenty of women die in childbirth so you may never get a second chance.
Walrus Latte you think Ramsay would give a shit ? He had the north he didn't need Sansa or any of the starks in his eyes because he held the north so he just wanted Sansa back as his play thing, couldn't stand the fact her and reek escaped, and as for the raping and if one of them did get her pregnant he would just kill the child so on and so forth we all know Ramsay would easily kill a baby.
Ramsay's downfall was his hedonism. He DID need Sansa to hold the north, he needed legitimate heir so if he was smart he wouldn't have tortured her until he had at least two sons, "an heir and a spare." But Ramsay just LOVES torturing ppl so much he couldn't wait.
Keyboard warriors, take notice!
*Tyrion's voice* "That is a threat, see the diference?"
Marry someone who can look you as Tormund looks Brienne.
VElonica Sanuele the way he's biting into that meat is disturbing😂😂
Well he is freefolk , What can we expect 😆😆 but Thens are much worst you know.
And who knows about the word "at".
Stuffing his face with chicken intensifies the sexual tension.
Brienne is so not feeling him! She has her sights on the sister fucker
it`s "lord of winterfell" that actually insults jon`s pride the most
Yeah, the way he says "Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North" you can tell that the idea of anyone other then a Stark claiming those titles really gets to him
Ramsay has the rightful Lord of Winterfell in his dungeon, while Jon has the future rightful Lady of Winterfell (given Bran's refusal) in his care. It shows the difference in their honour.
I like how Sansa definitely knew that she wasn't getting Rickon back, but she still used him as motivation to get Jon to agree.
She sneaky, and I like.
True!! I didn't realize that
I don't think she knew that until the parlay with Ramsay where he threw the head of Shaggydog. Cuz it's after that when she tells Jon they're never going to see him again.
@@estherruth4692 I disagree, Sansa knew what Ramsay was, and Rickon was the true heir to Winterfell, she knew how Ramsay treated the threats of his claim
When she sees the wolfs head she knows her brother is going to die that's why she tells Ramsey he is going to die
@@zzzxxzzxxcxc But even if she did know it before Shaggydog's probably at that moment she hadn't thought properly about it and still had hope. The idea of Rickon dying as the only resolution wouldn't come at her at once
i love how ramsay put in so much effort into this letter. like he couldve just said surrender or die. i cant stop imagining him making this up somewhere in his room with that grin on his face.
hahhahahhahaha we all know the exact grin you speak of😂
Lol classic Ramsay! 😂
Jon’s final nod, and how he couldn’t read what Ramsey would do to Sansa out loud is something any big brother would do I think. Being super ultra protective of their siblings but to upset to any anything else. His face only softened up to look at his little sister, which was sweet. I imagine if I had a big brother, he’d react the same way.
I love how loyal Tormund is to Jon. The wildlings have never fought for anyone but themselves and yet here he doesn't even need to ask.
Jon looks mortified at the mere thought of doing this...
When Sansa grabs his hand and gives her spiel, the look on his face is like, "Goddamn...I really didn't want to get involved in this..."
@@msammy6914 You can see in his eyes the trauma of his death is still affecting his internal process about deciding what to do.
Brienne: >:( I fought a bear
Tormund: :-) I fooked a bear.
Thoros:I got bit by a dead bear😂
joer fookin mormont: I am the fookn bear
i like how Jon and the others are eating like animals (aka brothers) while Brienne and Sansa are just watching like 'wtf is wrong with these barbarians'
They've been on their own so long they forgot how it's "to dine with ladies" =))
Leo Snow-Strider lol so true
I see all those years in the Night's Watch didn't teach Jon any table manners.
Ofc not he spent years living with criminals and people who grew up no wealthier than a farmer
Problem is Jon is not really in the right frame of mind to fight. He's just been brought back from the dead and is pretty traumatised by the experience.
I picked up on that when he nods his head after Sansa takes his hand and pleads for him to help her take back Winterfell. You can see in his eyes the trauma is still affecting his internal process about deciding what to do.
Sansa was always the least Stark of them all. She wanted so badly to go down South because she believed it to be like the stories and songs, she was a Northerner by birth but a Southerner in her own mind. But she soon found out the hard way. And now this least Stark child (even less of a stark then Jon) is responsible for taking back Winterfell, restoring House Stark to its rightful place, and saving the North. I just love the irony of it (yes i know Jon did the fighting but the whole idea of taking back the North from the Bolton's was Sansa's idea on the first place)
The Starks are the good guys that all the show's funs need to root for and relate to, because every bloody movie has black and white, bad guys and good guys where the bad guys start winning but the good guys dodge all the bullets and triumph. That's what the masses want. So the Starks fill that role in GoT. The problem is that GoT is a fully realistic medieval society (well, aside from dragons and walkers that is) and in such a society, good and honorable guys get killed, because they are strategically stupid. So it makes perfect sense that Sansa, people's least favourite Stark and the least Stark of them all in terms of character and mindset, is the one to save their asses and make it possible for good-guy-perfect-warrior-and-king Jon to survive (after he was already killed once) and become King in da North. Sansa might actually win the game, or at least help her family win it and survive.
Jon would've been dogmeat if it weren't for Littlefinger's army
Exactly, she convinced Jon to do it all, he didn't even want to fight anymore (understandibly). Besides if she hadn't called on the Vale then all would have been lost. People love to blame Sansa for not telling Jon about it but Jon didn't even want to try, he was dead set at dying. It's obivous that he was kinda suicidal.
balikati The Vales army, who rode because of loyalty to Sansa. They despise Littlefinger.
Dark Widow actually the battle of the bastard was lost because Jon make the mistake of attacking, I loved that part cause it makes him more human and in season 7 they are making him the mr.perfect
Man this scene was so strong. The letter gives me chills. These are medieval times, full of violence, cruelty and death. And even in an environment like this, Ramsay stands out as a sadistic and horrifying monster whose actions, thoughts and threats even leave people like Jon, Brienne and Tormund in chillful silence. Just loved him on the show.
Even Tormund must have been thinking "And they say WE'RE monsters?"
Sansa "balls of valyrian steel" stark. Queen of everything ever. This woman is literally epic.
Sansa: Northern families are loyal
Me: Name one
firetopman Mormonts. Even after Ned Stark banished Jorah.
Mormonts are definitely the most loyal, but even they needed their arms twisted to fight in the Battle of the Bastards
@@firetopman You can still be loyal in rebellion and reserve judgement about whether now is the right time to publicly back an invasion.
The Allies didn't liberate Paris until 1944. But they still wanted to right from 1940.
Northerngirl
I love how that creepy Bolton music starts playing when Jon unfolds the letter. Rlly gives u the chills...
It's the House Bolton theme.
I love the use of "Come and see" in these scene.
sansa is my favorite person ever
She is still very damaged and she may not be your favorite in the days to come...
"She is still very damaged" - lol you'd be too if you had lost almost your entire family, were repeatedly raped/tortured, physically and mentally abused every single day for years...
wat tha fuck dude
sansa has to be the most flat, uncharismatic character on the show
I disagree, jaime and tyrion had better development. but even if she did, it's easy to have the most development when you initially have about as much character as a bowl of rice
Letter: You will watch how my dogs will devour your wild little brother.
Sansa: Note taken
Tormund straight up asks how many men Ramsey has because he's already game to mess him up for his boy Jon.
Real friend for life
“You will watch as my soldiers take turns raping your sister” it's heartbreaking because Sansa was the one who got the worst out of all the starks simply because she was a women (a little girl), and was man-handled & raped by their enemies while Bran or Jon or Rickon didn't experience the slightest of that. It's a cruel world. Honestly all Starks are survivors but Sansa is THE survivor.
“Simply because she was a woman”, so what about Arya? Why didn’t those things happen to her? Also the men on the show suffer tremendously as well, they die horribly on the battlefield and some are taken prisoner and tortured.
@@adewilson132Thanks arya had no one sansa had people who helped her.Arya literally went blind and was beaten up she be came a begger then that woman stabbed her then some days after she was chased by the same woman amd was bleeding her wound opened leaving a trail of blood every where she went. The only terrible thing sansa went through was being raped by ramsey the others were bad but not compared to what the other stark's went through
@@adewilson132Arya had rough path in the street, but she was (almost) never a captive, meanwhile Sansa was trapped with 2 families that were her family's enemies ( lannister & bolton) So actually sansa's position were more terrifying
dude jon was literally killed in a brutal way lmfao. he experienced fkn death. i would gladly be graped instead of being fkn killed. sansa wen through hell but it istn comparable to what jon experienced.
I love how Jon is turned away from sansa as he eats, it's like an show of respect cause he is eating messy and she is a maiden, plus so she can eat. 😊
That moment when you realize that Sansa is a better strategist then Jon. Jon is good and loving, and carring but he's too good just like Ned. Ned was soo loyal that he got killed for it.
Being loyal didn't get Jon or Ned killed.
So what in your oppinion got him killed then?@@fightingmedialounge519
Okay but like Edd was the first person to be nice to Sansa in years with no ulterior motive or preexisting relationship/alliance.
Like sure Jon is nice to her, he's family. Brieanne and Podrick are nice to her but they're there because of an oath. Tormund is lovestruck and probably doesnt realize she's there. Margaery and Ollena were nice but still using her for their own purpose.
But Edd was just like a genuinely nice dude who was kind to her because that's who he is.
What about Tyrion, Shae, northern old-woman who got skinned alive for her?
Edd was a top G
How Ramsey opens the letter with "To the bastard Jon Snow" and the repetition of the line "come and see" are so badass.
I love Brienne's facial expressions; they're priceless. Although it would be weird in terms of a marital alliance, I think that Jon and Sansa would make a great team ruling the North. She knows very well how to play the game at this point, and could unite the Tully forces and bannermen, if not the North; Jon has the support of the Free Folk and remaining Black Brothers, and is somewhat well versed in military tactics. They are both leaders in their own right. Should Daenerys be successful in conquering Westeros, I would hope that the North remain independent, ruled by one of the Starks.
I love that murderous look Tormund gives Jon, when he reads "I will slaughter every wildling man, woman and babe.." Goes to show what exactly he would do if he found Ramsay in front of him.
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I dont expect the writers to rememver it, but I think Lyanna Mormont should help. She would finally be helping a Queen of the North whose name is Stark.
haha and they actually did remember
jealousharibo House Mormont remembers. The north remembers! Bear Island knows no king but the King in the North whose name is Stark.
@★ Froggie Animation ★ I'm not sure they had cast an actress yet at this point though
At the end of this scene, Jon may think about Thorne Alliser's last words : "But you, Lord Snow, you'll be fighting their battles forever".
I thought about if it had been Robb reading that letter he would have read it all the way through his face would have been riddled with anger. Jon's reaction is so interesting and his concern for Sansa's feelings was evident. We don't really see his full anger until he is beating Ramsay down. Although I know most of those punches were for Rickon, I think some of them were definitely for Sansa.
When the man comes to give the Lord Commander a letter Jon looks SO done with everything and everyone in Westeros.
How much the Stark siblings accepted Jon was seriously wholesome.
She said those things because she needed him to fight for her. She despite him as her mother did.
Ramsay gave every bit of justification Jon Snow needs in order to convince Freefolk to attack Boltons.
I love the contrast between Jon and Edd (and Tormund I suppose, but he's there making heart-eyes at Brienne and being all seductive with munching on a ????) eating, and Sansa and Brienne (maybe Pod?) eating. Living up there on the Wall for so long, Jon and Edd (and Tormund!) are used to eating like there won't be more tomorrow, used to dining on food that's there mainly for sustenance rather than taste. And since they're not living a courtly life, with a whole host of men - most of whom are criminals, outcasts, and low-borns - so what even are table manners. They're chowing down on their food, slurping and using their hands. Brienne, Sansa, and Pod have at least eaten better food without the worry of lacking, and they've been among gentry for a larger portion of their lives. They're fiddling with utensils, arms mostly to themselves, and hesitant about the odd bland-tasting food - which Edd notes and apologizes for, which I find quite sweet if I dare say so myself. (Also them being in a strange place would have something to do with their awkwardness.)
tormund is in love with briene, he has the look of love for briene.
+greyraptor Absolutely, look at the way he eats the steak. xd
Battler Evil he thinks the meat was briene's meat. briene loves that look.
greyraptor Lol!
İ think tormund is strong enough lol.
Tormund's in love! I love that it was Sansa who put the fight back into Jon Snow. I love it that she has really become Ned Stark's daughter. I can't wait to see Arya, Bran, Sansa and Jon reunited!
she was always ned stark's daughter. just because she has red hair and dreams doesn't make her less stark.
It does. Sansa was/is totally not like a Stark. Starks (at least the Starks including Ned and his children) are wild, fierce, loyal, brutally honest, defenders of the innocent, and are willing to Die for what they believe. Sansa was the opposite of All those things from the beginning, while on the other hand, Ned's other children (Arya, Jon, Rob, etc) totally exemplified those traits.
Sansa's disregard of Micah the butchers boy's death at the hands of Joffrey, plus her willingness to turn on Arya in favor of Joffrey seals the deal about her as being the most Un-Starklike child of Ned Ever!
Undriel Grenger As time had gone on however she has rediscovered her Starkness. That’s the beauty of her arc. She may have left that behind at some point but it was always with her and that is what helped her to survive.
@@undrielgrenger53
"Her willingness to turn on Arya in favour of Joffrey" You know she didn't take sides right?
The way Tormund looks at Brienne...
that look at 00:39 is me AF👏👏👏👏 I was like wtf is going on😂
Im still mourning the last last two season of this show. I mean....THIS WAS THE SEASON RIGHT HERE!!! such a fall from grace.
gotta love that look Tormund has as he's listening to Jon read the letter. Tormund looks like he's envisioning tearing Ramsey's head from his shoulders.
The way that Sansa’s breathing changed when John read that Ramsay had Rikon… she didn’t show weakness in this scene but in that moment you can see how terrified she was for her brother’s life
Season 6 is actually way better than I remember it. Considering they're past the books by this point and they're doing their own thing, just about everything's on point.
Season 6 wasn’t terrible but it was where you could tell the show was going to suffer. These plot points make no sense.
It’s pretty much how people threaten each other on the Internet these days.
I can watch this scene over and over again
It’s one of my favourite parts of the whole sixth season, I so love the Jon and Sansa relationship, and the way Jon looks when Sansa’s rape is in the letter
parryxxlivxx he really cares about her
dat tormund look on brienne always makes me burst into launging..
Amazing how Ramsay doesn't even have to try to get people to hate him.
My reply if I was jon
Dear Ramsey Snow,
Yours faithfully
Jon Stark, lord of winterfell.
It was written by Petyr in the scene with Robin he said "come and see"
but a bolton soldier delivered the message?
+J Cee I also thought it was Littlefinger but Ramsay wrote the letter. This was confirmed by Dan Sackheim :
www.techinsider.io/game-of-thrones-pink-letter-fan-theories-2016-5
Miss Lynn If Jon Snow knew about her getting raped by Ramsay.. uhh, i think he would be more then likely ready for a battle
Yes I agree!
How did petyr know that rickon was in ramsays dungeon?
Thurmond. So thirsty.
after Ive watched last nights episode, couldn't believe this was almost a year ago...only feels like last month's.
When Sansa grabs Jon's hand and gives her spiel, the look on his face is like, "Goddamn...I really didn't want to get involved in this..."
Ramsay Bolton should have considered a career in writing poetry instead of flaying and castrating people.
1:12 I get chills when you here the feedback of House Bolton’s theme music start playing
Was Sansa eating a giant ear? That food looks disgusting.
Yeah, i have absolutely no idea what that is, nobody can be this bad in cooking. XD
i thought it was looking delicious ..
thats a tongue
guys that's cow's intestines....haven't you seen one....that is a delicacy in my country
ultramarineblue Idk, to me it looks like a boiled slice of a pig's leg, not sure about the English term for it...
Battle of the bastards!
The letter from the book in case people were interested (it refers to a lot of cool subplots and changes the show dropped and it’s up to debate about how much is accurate like Stannis’ being dead or not:
“Bastard,
Your false king is dead, bastard. He and all his host were smashed in seven days of battle. I have his magic sword. Tell his red whore.
Your false king's friends are dead. Their heads upon the walls of Winterfell. Come see them, bastard. Your false king lied, and so did you. You told the world you burned the King-Beyond-the-Wall. Instead you sent him to Winterfell to steal my bride from me.
I will have my bride back. If you want Mance Rayder back, come and get him. I have him in a cage for all the north to see, proof of your lies. The cage is cold, but I have made him a warm cloak from the skins of the six whores who came with him to Winterfell.
I want my bride back. I want the false king's queen. I want his daughter and his red witch. I want this wildling princess. I want his little prince, the wildling babe. And I want my Reek. Send them to me, bastard, and I will not trouble you or your black crows. Keep them from me, and I will cut out your bastard's heart and eat it.
Ramsay Bolton,
Trueborn Lord of Winterfell.”
So...this happens before Jon gets killed in the books?
This letter..So much violance..Shit , when i heard the words coming from Ramsay's mouth, i felt so darkness and fear.Battle of bastards is coming.
" Come and see.." :'D * cough * *cough*
Superb acting in this scene!
LulitaInPita the unspoken awkwardness are so enjoyable
The amount of "bastard" and "come and see" in that letter 🤣
Everybody keeps forgetting about Littlejon "Fook you!" Umber. He's the wild card in this game. Will he backstab Ramsay? I'm guessing "yes".
Daniel Bradford well I guess not hehehehe
00:24 his eyebrow raise 😂😂😂
Most unrealistic part is that if the Boltons have Rickon Stark; the Manderlys would be lining up to support Jon, which would be like +3,000 soldiers. At would the Glovers +500, the Flints +1,000, and all sorts of other Northern Lords +1,000. Jon would be marching on Winterfell with an army of nearly 8,000 men, with the Vale adding easily 20,000 men pledging their support via Sansa.
With the Karstarks and Umbers paling around in Winterfell they'd see the writing on the wall, would secure Rickon and would kill Ramsay, surrender Winterfell and Rickon in exchange for pardons (which Jon would accept).
They obviously wanted the Battle Of The Bastards, but it was terribly written.
Ramsay makes Joffrey look like an angel
Love how she’s respond “you are going to die here to today”
Edd is probably one of the funniest characters. He had me laughing in so many scenes 😂
Love how Ramsay kept calling Jon a bastard despite the fact that Jon isn’t actually a bastard and he actually is.
Jon is still a bastard either way. Rhaegar and Lyanna got married illegally
@@winterfairyccxxii sure Jan
@jjh2456 it’s true 😹
Ramseys letter sounds like a hate comment from a 10 y/o
It’s worth mentioning that the phrase “come and see” is pulled directly out of the Book of Revelations. In particular, the phrase is used just before the appearance of each of the four horsemen.
In all likelihood, the writers are foreshadowing how the Battle of the Bastards will, in at least a few ways, be the unleashing of Hell upon earth.
kids can write a letter better than Ramsay
someone should probably tell the writers of the show there are 5,000 northern mountain clansmen that are insanely loyal to the starks and didnt march south with robb so are just sat there waiting for a raven, in the books they quite literally jump at the idea to save rickon from the boltons, they would do anything for the starks.
0:24 when you sit at the lunch table with your crush
3:43 "This aggression will not stand, man."
He's about to enter a world of pain!
ramseys whole like involves pain, pain means nothing to him he feeds off it if anything like a rabid dog pain would make him more unpredictible and more deadly cause ramsey took 20 men and basically slaughtered a camp now he his 5,000 +
Why didn't Jon just fuck Melisandre and impregnate her with another shadow baby killer, that they could send after Ramsay? Problem solved. Melisandre was the most valuable weapon in Jon's arsenal and look what he did... banished her because of that idiot Davos crying over that little girl.
He is such a good husband, writing her if she has a hard time, asking when she comes back soon cuz he wants to spend time together with her.
Lol did you just get through watching the video of the kindness man in Westreos? 😂
Sansa did not receive a letter from Ramsey. Jon did.
0:40 Priceless XD
Why is every meal in this realm so damn awkward?!
Show these scenes to someone who has no context of their relationship, the looks the hand holding the amount of influence she exerts on Jon it's all tell tale signs of a romance
This man really wrote a fuck you letter to John lmao
When Sansa spoke to Edd, that look on his face was a mirror of how the North is enamoured by Sansa, future Queen in the North. She was that type of personality.
I forgot rikkon was even a character
The pink letter in the books was way more mysterious.
Jon Snow and Sansa Stark = Luke Skywalker & Princess Leia :)
Does that make Rickon Han Solo and Ramsay Jaba the hut?
I don't blame Jon for eating as quickly as he was here. I'm just taking a very wild guess here (due to lack of personal experience), but I imagine being dead is very hungry work.
Find someone who looks at you the way Toumand looks at Briann of Tarth
jonsa is going to happen.
I'm Blue Im hoping that happens at some point either before the end or after ... These two makes sense.
Dany and him is just wtf..