MY PROBLEM WITH ANTONIO CONTE
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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Seems to me that he´s the kind of manager that rules by fear, which can work, but only for the short term.
You might be right about this. Lets not forget he played under Capello
Good take. He’s tryna shock them into gear
A good lesson in life. Ruling by fear works until you break people and they don't care anymore ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you cannot rule by love
Agree but he only stays for short periods and the club always has success during the time. So I’d say it works everytime except for Spursy.
A lot of what he said is obviously true (although you would expect these things to be said from a fan of rival club not their own manager) BUT you could sense from the last few mins of that press conference that his intention is nothing other than to protect his image and his reputation as a manager. When he says things like you can keep changing the managers but nothing will change and I've seen the managers they've had on the bench etc.. He's just afraid his reputation is going to be affected by this and that's why he can't hide it anymore. That's just my opinion though
Yeah that makes sense. He knows he's going to leave without achieving anything and is trying to save face
Conte, stubborn, unwilling to adapt his style to work with the players, egocentric, impatient, please get rid..
He’s right tho
Poch Jose and conte all couldn’t win nothing with spurs
3 very good managers failed
@@ayaanlatif2296 him being right doesn't make him blameless for his own failings though
@@ayaanlatif2296 Poch got them to a Champions League final they had no right to be in and consistently did well in the league. I'd not say that's failure, yes people are judged on trophies at the top end but Poch still did really well with Spurs. Levy seems so desperate to get a trophy to appease the fans he is hiring short term proven winners like Conte/Jose when he should probably just try and do what they did with Poch, get a young hungry coach in who may need time but will actually develop the players who are there.
Conte trying to pull a power move but having it massively backfire is just peak spurs
Replace the word 'Spurs' with the word 'Levy' and it works the same every time. But the fans will get the stick every time
Too right mate
And also peak Conte tbf
Has not backfired though. He will either get fired and a payoff or leave at end of season and manage a club with actual ambition. Either way Contes career can only get better 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Are we calling it?
Just shared this with my fellow Tottenham fans. I’ve been trying to work out exactly why I really dislike what he’s saying, you’ve hit the nail on the head. It’s the fact that this seems like it’s too protect his own reputation, not to help Tottenham. He’s not saying “this is the problem and I’m gonna fix it” he’s saying “this is the problem, and it’s why I’m failing, not because of me”. Great analysis👍
His assessment of the attitude of the players is absolutely correct and I’m glad he said it as a a spurs fan despite conte obviously having his own shortcomings as well. Too many players coast along at spurs and the level we want to get to doesn’t allow that. Conte’s words had to be said
true but ultimately the buck stops with him, his job is literally to develop and motivate the players. It's not easy with the overpaid prima donnas these days and the deep rooted cultural issues at the club but that's why he was hired and paid huge amounts. If he is suggesting the players aren't motivated then ultimately he has failed a this job. If he's saying look I got a squad here who are busting a gut but we're just not good enough and lacking in talent, then it falls to Levy.
He’s doing his best to get the severance pay, I’ve never seen a manager say “maybe they will sack me” multiple times in a single season, it’s honestly pathetic. Shows the character of the man, i have no doubt spurs have broken him and he’s gone through a lot but to throw everyone under the bus and essentially take no blame yourself, it stinks of Mou at the end for united, slating the board purely so the fans will be on his side.
Mou was never as bad.
Considering how ten hag has to go through so much just to make this squad look competent, Mourinho absolutely deserved to slate the board, even if it is for selfish reasons. You know sometimes i think why would ten hag even bother with this job.
Jose’s style is not great, but the man is often proved right in what he says.
exactly this
I agree it felt pre-meditated. There have been other times when a rant would have been more understandable. But in this game they were ultimately unlucky to concede that penalty late on. He wants to be bought out during the international break when the club can have a think and try hash out a strategy
I think Levy is looking for a breach within his rant for a cause to fire him
Exactly, Conte really picked the right moment for his rant.
They shouldn’t have conceded the second goal that made that penalty matter to begin with
Spot on, as always. He can be right (which in many ways he is) but also be at fault. You can’t speak out publicly like that and expect respect from the players. Clearly an action of self-preservation, especially with the reports that he’s met with the board and told them his words were directed solely at the players. The players are not good enough, but he has failed to show any willingness to adapt. It’s difficult to commit to a manager (particularly one who demands such unique player profiles and general setup) without commitment from the manager himself.
Speaking as a non Spurs fan agreed. He's also been backed with signings and has a DoF who has worked with him in the past.
It's one thing to say the financial constraints enforced by Levy has led to a squad that's not good enough. (Although not good enough to beat the opponents they've had in the cups is debatable.)
It's another to say it's led to a squad that are mentally deficient. Romero a world cup winner. Why didn't he veto signings like Bentancur, Kulusevski, bring in an attacker he trusts the mentality of instead of splashing 60mil on Richarlison.
It seems all done to absolve himself of blame. It also implies the rest of the season doesn't really matter. Seen many say that Pocchetino had no success as he didn't win a trophy.
Many may agree with that. But if you are working under a manager who doesn't rate your mentality, your ability and shows no desire to improve it unless he signs a new contract are you really going to be as motivated as clubs scrapping for Europe (who value European football) or clubs fighting to stay in the PL?
If it wasn't Conte's decision to fall back into a 5, 4, 1 when we were two goals up, then whose was it? You could see it happening. Spurs have never been a 'defend a lead' team. We basically told Southampton that we weren't going to both attacking anymore and it was up to them to break us down. Which they inevitably did. And which also, inevitably, spiked my blood pressure!
Daniel Levy's decision to drop into the 5-4-1 clearly.
@@dddgtsd Must be that micro chip Levy embeds in all his staffs heads.
As a spurs fan I'm not happy with Conte, but he's not wrong. Over the last 3-4 years we've had so many embarrassing matches and the players always get away, managers take the blame. It's time they realize they're also part of the problem.
The Manager is there to make a change or try and do something to help the players. Change the system make a sub. The best Managers in the world do this.
@@orinorio1 Mourinho did that. He eventually ran put players to trust.
Supposedly he didn't even speak to the players after the game and just went straight to do media and according to him he's tried to speak to the players in the last few weeks but it hasn't worked so maybe this was his way to try to get through to them 🤔
I'm an Inter fan. This is just who Conte is. He used to rant and make headlines after every game at Inter too, this is just what he does
And he won a league for inter right?
@@wishvakrish3583 yup
@@LordFrega yep, he is a winner atleast in domestic. He is not satisfied with being average
I honestly think there is only 1 man for the job: Ruben Amorim. He manages to connect to the team and still be ruthless. He managed to consistently win titles with sporting and Braga despite not having high budget. He develops youth like no other and most importantly he will fight for the fans like no other. His teams have fight in them, just like Tottenham used to have with Poch and Early Mou
would help that he knocked arsenal out europa last week too
Amorim wont leave Sporting now. Maybe at the end of the season but not now. They still have quite a bit to play for.
Spurs safest bet is to either keep Conte or somehow put Stellini as interim manager and try stay in the top 6 til the end of the season.
If they hire another manager or try throw in Ryan Mason as interim they will fail and probably finish 10th.
@@Nathansss365 ah I see. A guy who judges without context. Dude, I'm Portuguese 😁
@@Nathansss365 💀💀💀how do you justify this kind of unprompted toxicity my dude? Insane.
Conte spoke facts about 20 years of huge underperformance from Spurs. He has won quite a lot more than one trophy in 20 years regardless of his playstyle.
“He’s a walking Conte-diction”
What a miss, Jim. I expect better from you.
That rant was Tim Sherwood-esque. He'd might as well come out and gone, "Lads its Tottenham" and then walked out.
As a spurs fan I couldn't agree more with what you're saying. He has had 18 months to try improve on the squad and the players, but instead of improvements we have seen nothing but regression. This whole season have been one rough patch after another, and Conte's solution have always been to just keep doing the same thing over and over and hope that it fixes itself...
Everyone has a problem when the blunt guy starts getting too honest!
When the blunt guy is part of the problem, sure.
The blunt guy is blind to his own failures, the attitude at Tottenham has started to shift towards higher spending, it’s a shame contes football couldn’t shift away from dinosaur tactics and mentality
@@jamesgunn7 When the blunt guy got you out of the ucl group stages and has you in with a good chance of top 4
He’d probably benefit from a few blunts tbh
He’s doing it to cover his own failures. He doesn’t give a shit about Spurs and their future lol, he’s leaving in a few months 😭😭
He was brought in to sort out that mentality not just on the pitch but in the backroom as well. He knew what he was walking into and was saying he wanted a different challenge and he has been backed. But since October he's appeared to not really want it anymore, especially not in the last few months.
The whole ethos of every owner and club being expected to bankrupt themselves in order to win things is atrocious, and unsustainable, and because the tottenham board want to make the club sustainable and work within its means in order to ensure its still around and a potential power house in the long run were demonised and made fun of.
What's going tk happen to city when the wealthy owners get bored or pass away, we've seen it happen with Leeds, Chelsea, Everton and countless clubs in the lower leagues.
He took the job for the money. He was involved in 30 mil scam. Now he recovered most of that 30 mil loss in Spurs, he wants to leave.
I think its a combination of all the personal stuff he’s had to deal with this season and the fact that Spurs are gonna Spurs has really just broken him, he’s used to teams that actually try and want to win something while Spurs just roll over and fail every time.
Spurs won’t win anything with money or not, spineless club that no one can save, maybe an FA cup within 10 years but never anything major, joke club
It’s such a tough call, because I largely agree with a lot of what he has said. The squad don’t know how to win and every since we peaked when Leicester won the prem it’s been downhill since, with largely the same squad. But he knew that going into the job and he knew he wouldn’t get loads of cash. It’s easy to have a moan and say these lot aren’t winners, but agree the power move would be to sign a deal and make the players play for their place or out in the summer. That’s the dream. Will that happen, no. Will the squad be overhauled? No. Will the pain continue? Yes.
Spurs fan here, thanks James for the spot on summary. Lots of people saying ‘well it’s true lol Spursy Spursy’ - doesn’t matter if it’s true, he’s the manager. Losing to Sheff Utd and Milan with our squad had nothing to do with our ‘culture of failure’. Our awful football this season is 100% down to Conte. He has gaslighted the fans all season, he never wanted the job in the first place. He’s a ‘winner’ with a terrible record in Europe. I don’t know why he’s still at the club.
The guy is committed. Had a life threatening surgery and went back to work early. He is not someone who rants he walks the walk.
Lol keep telling yourself that
I see spurs as a confused club, they built things up the right way with poch getting a coach with a clear philosophy and long term vision for the club. YES they didn’t win anything but made plenty of finals and semi’s margins are fine in this sport and spurs couldn’t get it done in an era where they really should’ve won something. Since poch the we tried the ambition big name managers to no avail. Time to reinvent
Im spurs fan 40 odd years , and im dellighted conte called them out, it wasnt a rant, he spoke all facts, and glad he had the balls to say it live on the telly box,
I am a Spurs fan and I respect the honesty from Conte to be honest. I think it’s about time the players take responsibility. There’s evidently something wrong with the culture within our club, as we have destroyed managers and players. We’ve tried many things and not won anything. I believe these have been the same issues as before, and it comes down to ownership. Nobody in the Tottenham camp has belief or ambition. It’s been the same with every manager we’ve had other than Poch unfortunately.
As a spurs fan I cant deny somethings he said are true and think him calling out the board and players could be a catalyst for change. However his football and tactics have been dreadful and he has never seemed committed to stay beyond this season. I think he has carried the team as far as he can and it is time for change.
Gone at the end of the season, no doubt. Man's just had a major operation, still recovering, wants to win immediately. He's done, and making waves as he goes. Poch back in the summer? A lot depends on Kane, if he stays it's an elite job, if he is tempted away then it's a mid table rebuild at best.
Though it is true we aren't going anywhere without Daniel Levy investing into our squad significantly more. I think we are, as fans, craving that exciting football but I remember how many complaints there were under the Poch era about there being 70% possession but very few goals. We saw glimpses at the end of last season of how it could be with Conte. Unfortunately things just seem to have fallen through our fingers. I can't imagine us winning anything for the foreseeable future regardless of what changes happen. There is a psychological barrier in the hearts of the board the players and the fans which won't be broken without a total revolution and breakthrough in the whole culture of the club. We need a football Jesus lead us to the new light.
It might pain you to be told this as a Spurs fan but Arsenal's rebuild should be used as a blueprint for Spurs - but it's proof that it can be done and just requires a bit of a reset and some patience. Arsenal didn't bring Arteta in because he's a proven winner, they brought him like Spurs did originally with Poch because he was young, hungry and could build something with a clear philosophy. Arsenal have a generational talent in Saka but the rest of their squad isn't exactly filled with players unattainable for Spurs.
@@dddgtsd I agree
Spurs have spent a sum of money recently but the players brought in haven't shown enough consistency, to the point the squad isn't working.
We need Poch back ASAP and get the recruitment strategy on point.
All I could hear during the entire press conference was the quiet whisper of Roy Kean up the back saying repeatedly "but that's yer job"
He's gotta go tonight Jim
Can't help but feel that while it probably from a purely practical PoV (in terms of actually wanting to help Spurs) was wrong place, and possibly also wrong time, Conte manages to hit on quite a few issues that ultimately defines "spursyness"
I think being a manager has changed over the last couple of years. It has to be a project now, a manager won't come in for two years and be successful and then leave. Like chelseas old model.
City, Liverpool, Arsenal, United, and Chelsea are trying. They are all focusing on projects. Long term manager with an idea who ruthlessly builds it, and changes the way the club and team operates.
As an Arsenal fan i don't want to see spurs get it right, but their next manager has to be a project manager who is willing to stay for the long term
Regarding his inconsistency as you said he was dull after the AC Milan game, he did say in this conference, that he was trying to hide behind words before, but wanted to rip the bandaid now.
Take into account all the off the field personal issues over the season and then it will make a little more sense. Also Spurs aren't setup to win.. Levy is responsible for that.. He won't take the extra step to make them competitive in the top six.
I think Conte has a point about the mentality of some players and perhaps the ownership of the club - apparently those high up at the club are genuinely confused at the hostility from the fans and think that just competing for european football is good enough, but at the same time, 100% agree with James that Conte has been in inflexible this season, completely mismanaging Son, and is obviously not creating the right environment for the players. It's been an open secret since January that he wants to leave at the end of the season, and his squad rotation has been a joke. The stuff with Spence not playing was weird, Danjuma, quality player, hasn't seen the pitch since he came in (fucking Lucas has played ahead of him) and Richarlison is obviously confused and frustrated at his lack of game time from his quotes last week. He may have a point about the culture of the club, but he's made so many perplexing decisions. I want him gone TONIGHT!
It's all too clear that Conte wants to get sacked now, but should we do him that favour? It'll cost us, but on the other hand not qualifying for Europe will also cost us. He's very clever that way, also refusing to take his own part of the blame even though everybody can see that we never had the players to fit into his system. It''ll take years and sh*tloads of money before we do, and even then we'll still just be 4th or 5th favourite to win the league. So why give in to his demands? It's silly.
As a Spurs fan, I have not been that much of fan of his football but I am tired of seeing the same players throwing managers under the bus. Going managers after managers and being rigid to fulfill their demands when you have opportunities every window to refresh is just baffling. Non of the managers before or after Poch wanted huge money to make required changes to fix certain gaps (biggest one being the back-line). However, here at Spurs, we are about to give Eric Dier a contract extension for 3 more years when we are not even sure who the next manager is going to be. The problem is bigger than the tactics, James. The culture is the main factor right now. A lot of players who are here for more than 9 years now are running the show. They're too comfortable. I hate to say it but look what Arteta have done. He's gotten rid of the deadwood even for a loss. But Levy just hands extension when it's clear managers don't want players like Dier, Davies, Lloris, Sanchez, Sessegnon, etc. These players have let us down on numerous occasions year after year. Even going by the tactics, it's clear that Conte doesn't trust his players in the back so he plays deep defense whilst the formation demands to press teams a bit higher when being defensive. One through ball whilst playing a high-line and you're done (example the first goal scored by Saints). 23 years, 1 trophy, and 15 managers onto the 16th, I think it's high high time to look elsewhere to identify problems than just managers. You can't just be insane and repeat same thing with same players again and again and again. I haven't felt this disconnected and dejected supporting Tottenham being a fan for 15 years.
Exactly conte isn’t blameless, but the players are the common denominator. I’m a spurs fans and being honest he needed to come out and say that for a little reality check. Players like dier, Sanchez and co. Have just been here for too long they cannot start these games and people want to talk about his tactics?? The same tactics that got us up 3-1 in that game? It’s not his fault our defenders can’t cement a 3-1 lead against the bottom team in the league, im sorry but they deserve some calling out.
@@p.a.t.79 Yeah mate 100% because it pains me to see Dier defending going backwards when he needs to step up and win duels. He is not aggressive. Even Lenglet tries harder than him. Sanchez just ghost tackles with nothing in front of him. They will be in championship with such performance but the club is too happy to employ them. Change is uncomfortable to these lots. This has to stop.
He's trying to get sacked immediately so he gets a payout. So the longer Tottenham keep him, the more torture he's suffering.
As a Chelsea fan, I would happily swap Potter with him. Whilst it would all go wrong inevitably after a few years, what Conte could do with Chilwell and James as full backs gives me wet dreams.
Yes he’s causing unrest with his refusal to clarify his future, but 95% of Spurs fans are so grateful he’s called out these awful, weak minded players and board. Players like Dier/Davies/Sanchez/Lucas etc outliving Poch, Jose AND Conte is a disgrace. The minute training gets ‘too intense’ or ‘too predictable’ they start snaking every manager they’ve had
while I agree that these players are the problem his refusal to change a system that doesn't work and puts increased pressure on the weakest part of the squad is mind blowing. He works with the players every week so he knows the weakness is there but he persists. he has been undone by mangers that have overun midfield and changed systems in the game and refuses to remove underperforming players from the squad. I cant stand another season of his dreadful football. we need to chuck him and that list of players out.
Davies, Dier and Moura have been publicly praised by literally every single we've had since Poch. Idiots like you invent your narrative to justify whatever garbage thoughts and ideas you have are so toxic.
Comments from our past managers on Ben Davies -
Conte (literally a week ago) - This type of player is vital for every manager. He always shows great reliability and is a player with the right desire. It's a privilege for every manager to have this type of player in your squad.
Mourinho - When a player plays injured to help his team to recover from two bad defeats, this can happen. A man, team player
Poch - He is a fantastic professional and boy. Only I can praise him because his position wasn't easy from the beginning, but he kept fighting, always waiting for his opportunity to play. He fully deserves to improve his contract and salary because, when we are talking about the team and the squad, this player deserves all the credit to keep fighting to keep up the level of the squad
the issue that is here is that these players have seen countless managers been sacked and take the heat for their lack of desire. Conte got it spot on that the players are selfish so even if the tactics are right there’s only so much a manager can do. This from conte is definitely a resignation admission but just like rangnick he is exposing the truth for the board and the next manager to understand.
Spurs fans expect high line high press with recovery pace of Dier, Davies, Lenglet and sweeper keeper Forster.....nothing more hilarious than that!
😂😂😂😂😂 Even Kane is not a true leader 😂😅
A back 4 of Porro Romero lenglet and peresic could definitely play in a high press.
We really don't, high press isn't the only way to play entertaining football.
As a Spurs fan, this was needed. Too many players and the Board have been in cruise control for too long, they need a reality check. Levy is happy with European football and, of course, CL is the preference as that’s where the real money is that brings value to the product. It’s cheaper to maintain a top 4 finish than push for the league each year, or build a full squad when you can scrape a decent first eleven. Conte isn’t blameless and the football is horrendous, the two in midfield doesn’t work and the wing backs are so sub-par (Porro is showing promise, Perisic should be used as a Winger, and don't even get me started on Sessegnon). Conte also freezing new signings out and not making subs when they’re needed are just skimming the surface of his issues though.
Who would you suggest he plays in midfield to replace those 2. All but Sarr are out injured at the moment.
@@jerzee3600 well that's the thing, I'd be playing 4-3-3 with Skipp behind Hojberg and Sarr. If one needs a rest or change of tactic, Deki into the 10 and go 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 with 2 holding dm's and play Danjuma, Richy or Perieic as the winger opposite Son. There are options but injuries aren't helping, Bissouma should be back around the end of the international break all going well, even if he misses another 2/3 games after it or has to be eased back in.
He criticises a team for not winning a trophy but he drops Kane against Sheffield United in the FA Cup with a possible route to the final and they lose in the Champions League to an AC Milan faltering in Serie A. His European record is awful but it’s all on the players and club apparently, it’s not like you’ve been there a year and it’s your job to improve the team, you’ve been given fairly decent investment.
But there is a blame to put on the players.
@@eleonarcrimson858 yes there is but Conte doesn’t seem to accept any of the blame himself.
Conte’s presser was one of the best ever. You can see Conte’s fight and passion on the sidelines when spurs score in every single game. He gives everything to the game. Top manager
A whole cm punk pipebomb😂
Fair point on calling Conte out. However, what about Spur's/Levy's responsibility? Levy brought Conte in so?
Think everyone in football saw this coming apart from spurs fans
Oh, it's been a long time coming. We knew that. Conte always leaves clubs by slamming the door. It's on his CV.
@@WhiteHartDane i think half of spurs fans saw this coming, the problem is half are blind conte and mourinho fanboys that refuse to see the tactical shortcomings of the managers and the inevitable implosions
Nope we saw it we just also know that this world class proven winner is nothing but talk. He gave up before Christmas and just looked for reasons to be sacked after Jan. His tactics don't work in the era of the epl when you can freely spend like he is used to.
These club signings are signings made by the DoF he worked with before.
We won't change as a club while Levy is chairman but Conte doesn't have a plan a or b this season and always crys about not getting the signings he wants, he wants old boys that can't f-ing run
I think he should see out his contract and forced to do his job, sick of paying of managers when that could be spent improving the team
Brilliant analysis. I thought some of the same, but this video really eloquently put some of the things I had at the back of my mind when watching that video.
I honestly think we might as well just pull the trigger now and get rid of him. He's not going to stay anyway so what the point we might as well get poch in maybe with a new manager bounce we can hold on to top 4 and give him some time to be able to assess the squad and really nail down where he wants to improve in the summer.
Even if he was gonna stay there, it's done as a relationship
Speaking as a Yid, I must say that we don’t need positivity. We need a right kick in the backend to get us up and running. We’ve been shit for so long that having someone spitting the shit in our face was well in order.
Been Conte-out until last week. Now Conte-in all the way. COYS!⚪️🔵⚪️
Spurs need a nurturing manager, like Poch, Ancelotti and dare I even utter - Arteta. The war generals like mourinho and Conte demand full on effort and commitment without the lubrication of constant support of character holes of the players. They just will not make excuses for them, mistakes are for the players to burden and they're not allowed to graze their knee whilst remaining focused on mid/long term goals.
@Adam because they need nurturing manager. Look at the failure of Dele Ali, one of the best young talents in the world, with a nurturing manager, completely awol without one. Most of the squad lack the minerals to run through walls for Conte
Being a spurs is just painful at times. Conte does have a point. But under conte he invites pressure on a defence that can't handle pressure. We are always over run in midfield. I think if you keep possession of the ball teams can hurt less. I hate his football. As fan you are always going along for the ride like the champions league run under poch. Under conte there is no ride just hoping that we that we play some good football which doesn't happen. You have question why dier davies sanchez lloris are still at the club because they have proved to be unreliable. Then they have added more unreliable players to the squad this season with lenglet sessegnon perisic. We have known for 3 season that defence isn't good enough. I have never seen son and kane look so bad. Even the players don't look like they are enjoying their football. I agree with you about poch he has been the most successful manager under ENIC. We are a club built on attacking football and being brave . Conte jose nuno are the oppersite of that. It doesn't surprise me it hasn't worked under those managers. You can't go away from what you are. Major changes needed and Poch or Luis Enrique would be perfect. We have to say good bye to some of the players that have been here a long time and do nothing. Udogie Porro Kulu next season look exciting. You can build round them may be it's time to say good to a lot of players. Sometimes you have to many bad beats and the belief goes. The squad needs a big refresh.
I actually somewhat disagree with all the hate Conte has got for simply being honest (Spurs fan). He's a winner and he wants to change the narrative of Tottenham being "spursy" - and has been slowly trying to do that since joining. He's been upset and wanting more previously and he got a bit of a response from it. But with recent results he wants to rip the plaster off and say enough is enough of this. And doing it publicly, yes it is bold but I honestly think he was right to do it. Because it's bigger than 1 game - our recent results have left us trophy-less for yet another season. Whether Conte leaves or not (and I think he likely will), at this point in time he thinks the best way he can help the club is by giving the players and the public a reality check. Doing it the hard way is the only way to break our habits. And yes Conte himself holds some responsibility, the football hasn't been great, but it is bigger than that. Conte's tactics aside, the line-up against Sheffield Utd was eeeasily good enough to win the game and it's similar with the Southampton game - the players need to step up and take responsibility on the pitch more. I do understand the points that others will/have made on all this, but Conte is still an elite level manager and I trust and agree with his thoughts. He definitely shouldn't be getting sacked based off of this in my opinion. Although I'm not against the idea of him leaving after the season ends.
So I personally disagree however still a great video James!
As someone who bleeds spurs and knows the club inside out and what the true problems are, I can say that you have a true true football brain. You just get it. I switched to this video after watching that Ian wright and Kelly show and listening to you vs them is just night and day. And I like Ian wright as a pundit! But your perspective is more nuanced and just shows a better understanding of my club than those ex-pro “experts” on that show. You’ve earned your success by just being truly intelligent about this game. Respect to you
i think conte was spot on. if i were a spurs fan i’d be overjoyed because it feels like this was something that was needed. everyone knows what the issue with tottenham is. they’re currently in the same position where arsenal was before wenger leaving. not fighting for anything but 4th. someone within the club laid out all the flaws within the club which forces the club to reflect and change, at least i would hope so
He's fallen into the same trap a lot of others do, including the Mourinho of the last 5 odd years. High standards expected/demanded of his players, without being self critical, or as you say having the rationality to understand where the club or squad can fall short *for now*. It's all very "do it perfectly now or fuck off because i'm a winner and we have to win", without wanting to put the work in to actually create a winning environment.
It just screams ego, and honestly a bit of laziness/cowardice. Almost like they aren't willing to put their neck on the line, take the necessary risks, play the long game. Borderline entitlement to have things go their way in places. Surely Conte recognises what he's up against in terms of the rest of the league. This isn't some scrub league you can just walk by working hard.
I'm a Tottenham fan. I love him, but I'm ready for him to go. We've tried the older, rigid winners of the past. It doesn't work and it doesn't provide any hope for the future because they always have an air of "I'm leaving soon." We need a free flowing football manager because at least then it will be more fun to watch. Feels like he's deflecting, so he can be in line for the Italian National team job.
Whether he's contradictory, in your opinion, or not, doesn't take away from the message that he is right about where Spurs are (which you agree, as you have stated) . He's absolutely right to look after himself and why should he have new ideas, when it has worked everywhere else. All managers damage their reputation being at Spurs. Partly the reason why Poch left after getting a to CL final. Poch wanted a reaction from the board, on the back of that, didn't get one and went. If the club don't match the managers expectations on the ones the they bring in, then appoint the appropriate manager in future. It's all on Spurs. Conte has nothing to prove to anyone.
As a spurs fan, you're spot on and I really appreciate that. Everyone knows we have a mental block with winning. No one is suggesting we need to win the league now. That's why we hired a winner to try and fix it. Obviously hasn't worked so call it here.
This was just him trying to protect his image more than anything and he needs to go.
He really needed to commit back during the world cup break. Has been a horrible downward spiral since then and we are miraculously in 4th due to poor performances around us and games in hand.
We all knew conte’s tactics weren’t going to win us a trophy or title. We were just riding the high of a stellar 2nd half of last season. It’s time to let go and bring back daddy poch.
As a season ticket holder i was cheering him on. I don't care if it was calculated, he said what needed to be said. Having 3 + players who were Poch 2nd string now being passed off as 1st choice is a con. Having over 100 mill of poor signings hidden out on loan is incompetent. Spurs spend but spend badly and that's because Levy makes EVERY decision at the club. We're run by an accountant. The model delivers financial success (9th richest club in the world) but the model doesn't require success on the pitch. 'Spursy' is an ENIC product, it didn't exist before and while i'm no fan of going back, why would 'I'm not the manager' Poch come back to Levy? It's all in the public domain.
Get Luis Enrique on a 5 year deal & sell most of these players.
LW: Chiesa, Oyarzabal, Barnes, Nico Williams, Yeremy, Moleiro
CM: Merino, Szoboszlai, Zubimendi, Ugarte, Sancet, Alex Scott (Ndombele & Lo Celso)
LCB: Laporte, Torres, Inacio
GK: Simon, Raya, Lafont, Nübel
LW Richarlison Kulusevski
CM Bissouma Bentancur
Udogie LCB Romero Porro
GK
LW ST Gil
Sarr Skipp* CM
Sess* LCB RCB Spence*
Forster* Whiteman*/Austin*
Yeah there’s no coming back from this, and it didn’t have to go this way. After he threw some digs at the fans, he lost most of us. Was basically twerking for the AC Milan job after they knocked us out, after not showing the tactical flexibility to actually go on and win that match (a very winnable match btw because Milan are terrible atm).
I say pull the trigger now, this has been coming for months now, no way in hell spurs are gonna get worse with him gone, i mean how when you got eliminated by Sheffield, Nottingham, a bad AC Milan side, a draw against literally the bottom of the league...at least if he's out now you'd be able to get some results with a new manager or even No manager bounce, because clearly the relationship between players and Conte has gone stale
Being a Spurs fan its easy to see what Conte is doing. He is playing on the narrative of Spurs history. He knows there is Spurs fans who dislike the board and favour him more then them. Those fans have in a way cast him as God and someone bigger then the club they support. Conte has came in an acted like he wants the owners job. He wants to do everything at Spurs. The club has to become like him and adapt to him not him adapting to the club. He uses his history of winning titles as he knows this adds more to what he says. If Conte was at any other top 5 club he would have been sacked a long time ago. Imagine him doing this at Chelsea or Man United. He has gotten away with so much at Spurs belittling the club, throwing players under the bus. He refuse to change his system and adept to the players he has. If he was a WC manager he would have adept to the players he has and change it to a system that would bring the best out of them. Always stated that Conte downfall would be his refusal to change his system.
As a Spurs fan you have to pull the trigger rn, he has treated the club like a stepping stone for so long and I think your bang on when saying he is trying to protect himself, he needs to go to the football is terrible everything is terrible.
Couldn’t have said it any better myself James! The standard of your analysis is so high, keep at it!!
As a spurs fan i'd wait until after Everton and see how the players react but keep Poch on speed dial
Well said James ! Couldn’t have said it better , he is in self preservation mode and only looking to save his rep . His rigid system that has no Plan B is the issue . Get him out
Hit the nail on the head Jim as a spurs fan I’d love him to stay and root out the culture problems but when you say stuff like this in public without committing it just feels like you’re trying to deflect blame from yourself.
The point about Southampton deserving more respect is true as well and from a fans perspective it bothers me that he doesn’t show this attitude when we go out of the fa cup to Sheffield United or Europe to AC Milan. Given the quality of teams in this league I can accept as a spurs fan we need a miracle to win it, but we should have a chance in the cups and that’s where this mental energy (and best starting xis) should be deployed. Not over an away draw in the league decided by a dodgy prnalty call when our chance of finishing higher than 4th disappeared ages ago
BANG ON James, everything you have said is spot on. I want him gone
I always had the same feeling as james mentioned and i personally 100% truely agree with him !!!
At what point does Conte take responsibility though. His tactics are to blame here. Every time someone questions Conte about this he seems to pass it off to someone else. Yet he was the one who decided to drop Harry Kane in the FA Cup. He was responsible for bringing on defensive players when we needed a goal against Milan. Yes the players are at fault but he has to take more accountability for his actions. He never comes out and says I was wrong or maybe we should change things. It's the poor decisions that have played a big role. The defensive style against teams we should be going at, the 70 minute substitutes when we are a goal or two down and need a result. This is part of the problem too.
As a spurs fan it’s difficult. He is being truthful on a lot of fronts and part of me is happy with how he has called out everyone in public. He is part of the issue though, our defence is horrendous and yet we haven’t improved it, tactics poor, lack of subs and when made they are questionable etc. I don’t agree about Poch coming back, it’s too soon. Levy let him down, Kane, Son Lloris, Dier, Davies, Sanchez all still at the club and 5 still in the starting 11. Amorim, Frank or De Zerbi for me.
Do you think frank or de zerbi would take the job? It feels like a bit of a poisoned chalice when nuno mourinho conte and poch at the end couldn't succeed with that team.
He's obviously failing at Spurs and he has to shoulder a lot of that blame himself, which he won't. Despite his comments hitting close to the truth, his reasons for saying it is what makes me dislike him. He's saying it publicly to protect his own image and, for better or worse, Conte always puts Conte first. And for Spurs, that's worse.
So, he has to go (TONIGHT!!!1) and I'd want Pochettino back. It's time for Daddy to come home and make everyone feel good again.
Either like you say sign a new deal and properly rebuild the squad or fuck off bring in a younger innovative manager, like De Zerbi etc, and have a clear out. Sell Kane for £80m to Utd and be done with it. Rebuild and have a long term project like we did under Potch. When we bought Ndombele he was the replacement for Dembele and you could see it was going to work under Potch if he has the chance to clear out the players. Yet other managers have come in and there has been half a clear out. I still don’t think Potch right now is the answer, but if he comes back let’s see what he can do
I just found the outburst refreshing. We're so used to managers and players giving robotic answers and playing safe that football has become a little bit more dull.
At the moment, I have to suffer Paul Ince being the manager of my beloved club. We're winless in 5 and his interviews are always the same old, "we have to turn performances into points" etc. We has 2 games back to back without a shot on goal. Come out with a bit of passion and say you will change things and demand more from players. Just anything expect for the usual excuses
Really, when it comes down to it, commitment is the issue. The board, the coaches, the players. all these variable amounts of what they are willing to put on the line to make it work. As for conte, he is done. He has held the contract negotiations over for us the whole time he has been at spurs. Almost as if he believes we need him more than he needs us. We want to win, but man, it's painful watching this club eat itself alive like this.
Interesting that u mentioned Ancellotti, because Daniel Levy apparently chose Mourinho over Ancelotti as Pochettino’s successor back in 2019. Feels like if we had just appointed the right manager back then and started a calculated rebuild we could be competing for the league with Arsenal right now.
As brilliant as he is, Ancelotti wouldn’t have been able to do much with this Spurs team either. The main problem with that club is at the top.
i dont like conte tactics and his philosohy but saying why didnt he said this against ac milan is because they were not 3-1 up.thats up to the players in my opinion
Spot on with this video but I don’t agree with pulling the trigger now. Might as well save some money and keep him and get the players going to top 4 then part ways. It’s gonna be long end to the season
Tactically the way to beat spurs under conte is to play 4-5-1 and flood the midfield. If look at the home game defeats, aston villa, Newcastle, arsenal, Leeds went two nil up as well, this is what happened. Conte has not changed or even tried new tactics. Conte is a cheque book manager and therefore not the right for spurs.
What he's saying might be vaguely true about Spurs but it was linked to a rant about the players not being motivated basically and that comes down to him at the end of the day. Maybe Levy isn't a great owner, who knows what he promised behind the scenes and didn't deliver but regardless that team should beat Southampton and they were 3-1 up and threw it away. The result comes down to Conte and the players, seemed random to just start bringing up things we already know about Spurs in a general sense. He's a passionate guy with no filter and the game needs more of that but I'm just not sure what his point was here. If a) he is digging out Levy and the board, go the full whack, tell us why? What has Levy done wrong? If he lied and said he'd give him more money then say that cos if not, Conte knew the situation and is taking 13m a year to manage the club based on those resources b) he's calling out the players then sadly it comes down to him at the end of the day.
As an NUFC fan it reminds me a little bit of Rafa, I loved him but he would use pressers to moan a lot and take subliminal digs. I disliked Ashley so I didn't mind it too much but he would remain dignified and professional, not throwing players under the bus. Conte has surely lost the players and the owner here, not sure how he can stay on.
Spurs fan, hit nail on head mate and that's for being objective.
As a spurs fan feel like all these “winner” managers just give up on us after signing a short deal, failing and then just leaving, restarting the cycle again
i was over the moon when we landed Conte.
the honeymoon has officially ended.
Glad to see there’s a consensus among the comments that while Conte is mostly correct about the state of modern football, Tottenham’s owners, and accountability of players, he only has himself to blame for the rancid football.
It's very simple: If he's lost the dressing room then he has to go in the next few days. Ryan Mason will have a better chance, no matter how much worse of a manager he may be, so long as he has players. However, if there's a chance conte hasnt lost the players then it would be preferable to stick it with a world class manager who should have the ability to compete for fourth.
Where's the fallout video?
Good video, agree he needs to go & Poch is the obvious candidate to replace him. He just seems like a good fit for the club. Also given Spurs' crisis it's all the more reason for Kane & Son to move in the summer.
Thank goodness someone said it!
This was the same atmosphere that was rampant under José so Spurs really need to stay away from pragmatic managers. Unpopular opinion but Southgate's personality would be perfect for a team like Spurs because he's a great leader and positive. Son seems like a shadow of himself under Conte this season. The tactics aren't working for the attacking quality that they do have.
Tottenham fan here - He needs to go but it will likely be best to wait until his contract runs out, ONLY bc we know Conte always bakes in a clause in his contracts that if he's sacked the club needs to pay an extortionist amount of money to him (see the Chelsea sacking debacle). And no truly good manager will want to come in and finish the last 10 games to have it on them if we don't make 4th. There really isn't a huge benefit to sacking him. The squad already disregard him entirely, just look at how much better they played when Conte wasn't in the dugout. Let the little shit ride out his contract and have a more stable environment in which to bring in a better manager in the summer
Absolutely, he has to go. The players wont respond this time.
Partly due to frailty in other teams, he pulled them up to 4th at the end last season, and the team have been up there pretty much since then. He can see that that's starting to fall apart and wants sacking while they're still 4th. (Also Spurs have finished in the top 4 most of the recent seasons, and Conte talks like they were a mid table club prior to his arrival).
I suppose you can say that Conte also wasn't very "professional" with that outburst.
But if I had to choose one mode of unprofessionalism over the other, it'd be the one where I passionately drop truth bombs - rather than lacking: the balls to engage in duels; enough focus to adequately control a ball (as a professional footballer) the determination to defend my goal & backing a struggling teammate, etc.
Anyway, winners prove their critics wrong, losers prove their critics' right.
I wonder what our mentality midgets will do? 🤔
Conte isn't happy at Spurs. Last season we looked good but this season we are dreadful. I'd get him out and bring poch back.
Not signing a new contract doens't make his actions a contradiction. If he's laid all this out to the owners and players already, and enough time has passed with no progress or trust in his philosophy, what does Conte do? I wouldn't sign a new deal myself until i see something that shows potential for change. If Conte signs a new deal and nothing changes, who's the fool in this situation? Conte is, and he's no fool.
Tottenham need someone raising the expectations, Conte's that. Levy brought Conte in to win things, as that's missing from his tenure as owner. The players shouldn't be able to be okay with mediocrity, and average performances. The only thing missing is his contract. If he had a longer contract, players would also be more committed and perform better I think. But, as Tottenham do you commit to him, with his 15-20m per year salary. I think it's the only way to keep Kane for an extra year or new deal. The players they are bringing in are getting really good. Porro this January. One more top CB like a Kim-Min-Jae, and a fresh goalie, maybe a creative midfielder, and this team can challenge for the title honestly.
Tottenham already been through the youth-optimism cycle with Poch. This is the Winner Spurs need. Spurs can't win with mediocrity, they need to perform with pressure like he's saying. He's putting it on the players.
Really good take on the situation. Nailed how I feel as a Spurs fan. Get rid now in my opinion. Atmosphere and culture right now is done. It will only get worse in the remaining games
He’s a walking contradiction. Lot of what he said is probably accurate but it’s clearly just a move when you say it to the press but don’t say any of it to the players after the game. I can’t see how the players can play for him again but I expect he’ll be here until the end of the season. I personally wouldn’t have Poch back, I just don’t think we’ve really grown since he left and I’m not sure he has either and I just can’t see it being a success.
As a spurs fan I'm just done with Conte not saying whether he wants to stay or leave. Sack him and get Poch and hope for the best imo