Evernew pots actually have a ridge on the base that engages with the top of the stove. If you're using it with the designed pot, it's not slipping off. The turbo plate is for winter to help the stove prime.
Great review! My humble tips from a few years use; 1. Use just the top half of the stand if you want a smaller flame, much more efficient, 1oz will boil 400ml. 2. Use the corresponding 550 cup with the base lip to hold it in place. 3. A 2oz round Nalgene for fuel will fit in the burner, in the stand, in the 550 cup, with a silicon pot gripper, alu cut windscreen and a mini bic - that is a very tidy bru kit! Cheers from the UK!
To make the alcohol flame visible, add 10 grams of table salt to 1 liter of alcohol. After working through a long series of conversion factors I came up with more manageable units of just under half a teaspoon of salt per cup of alcohol. It works.
I own that stove, not the DX stand & I love it. Very efficient, with a DIY foil windscreen, u can set ur cup directly on the top burners, after it's primed & 1oz fuel will boil 2 cups of water, enough for a coffee & a cuppa soup. It does take awhile, and sometimes it's hard to see if it's burning, but it's quiet & I usually have time. I even have setup a double boiler & steam-baked my nephew a birthday cake in the backcountry! (Thanks Chef Corso) I have since upgraded to the Goshawk titanium Multi-fuel wood gasifier stove, EDDY-200 Pioneer and Lixada siphon alcohol burner, with snuffer & simmer ring mods - easy to snuff & recover unused fuel (thanks Mark Young). 1 cup of hardwood pellets & a lil hand sanitizer starts up so easily, with little to no smoke, 35min active flame & 55min heat is pretty sweet!
Enjoy your channel reviews and adventures! I’ve used this setup for years and here are my thoughts: the turbo plate works in below freezing conditions to reflect heat back to the burner and “turbo” the burn. In warmer temps you don’t need it. The Evernew pots have a ridge that keep the pot from sliding off. It actually works quite well in wood stove mode…..if you know how. Small twigs that release energy quickly with burn great. You almost continuously feed which I enjoy anyway. The alcohol burner is powerful…..it will boil super fast. It also uses considerably more fuel and is not as efficient as several others. The slower the burn and longer boil times actually use less fuel. Anyway it’s a serviceable stove. I’ve never burned Esbit so I will not comment. All the best! Doug
"Power plate". At 00:46 the instruction manual says "when the temperature is low and stove does not give off enough heat, set Power Plate inside of upper stand". The power plate helps to warm the fuel, a known issue with alcohol stoves in cold weather. I've found that using it in hot weather (as I did the first time I tried it, by mistake) has the tendency to overheat the fuel and consume it far too quickly. Regarding the wide flame base ... yeah, I've found this stove is more suited to wider pots where the flame doesn't get wasted up the side to heat the handle. Having said all that I rarely use this stove as I have other stoves which are just more convenient and where it's easier to adjust the flame when cooking.
I still have my evernew Appalachian titanium stove set. It is a little smaller than the DX. I have had my stove for 10 plus years and it has saved my life a handful of times where I was able to have a compact multi fuel stove that allowed me to boil water in a wet environment when otherwise a fire was not possible. After 10 plus years of moderate use I can still say that this is still a relevant piece of gear that I would add to my kit when leaving for an extended stay in the wilderness.
I consider multiple fuels to be a huge bonus. I usually take a wood stove and my buddy takes an alcohol stove. Whenever it's wet, he boils my water, when it's not, I boil his.
What you call “gimmick”, I would call backup use. It’s one of the best stove systems I’ve used and I’ve had mine a decade. It excels as an alcohol stove. The wood stove/solid fuel stoves are just backups in case you run out of alcohol.
Ever since I learned how to make a Penny alcohol burners out of soda cans and or soup cans I’ve never been without hot food or water. I’ve made many types and sizes and have spent next to nothing. 😁
It is a piece of kit that you need to learn about in your backyard before taking it anywhere. For example, the burner can be used without the windshield, if you look it has two rows of holes. When you put a pot on top of it, the lower holes burn with a perfect temperature for cooking rice and you get a perfect burn time for cooking rice. It is expensive compared to other stoves on the market, some of them were not around when it was first released. I would not take much notice of some of the stuff in this video, its a great review if all you ever do is worry about how long a cup of water takes to boil, but it does miss some of the best features and configurations, which is not the fault of the reviewer, Evernew has published close to nothing on how to get the best out of this set-up, you have to do some trial and error to find out some of the features.
For people who are saying its wasteful as you cant empty fuel out of it. Think about it. You dont need to fill it full. Like any kit USE it understand it. See how much fuel it will typically take to boil the required water then only use that much. 15ml will typically last about 10 minutes in most alcohol stoves so no need to fill it full to the 30ml it can hold. Plus as Luke said its designed for ultralight, so 99.9% of there cooking is boil water and add to a dehydrated meal. If you want to simmer a trangia fits in it.
Hi Luke, I am a passionate backpacker and love the outdoors. I realy enjoy your videos and content and look forward to watching them. I have this dx set with the pot and cup combo for a number of years, as one of my many alchohol stoves and use it only once in a while as it is not my favorite one. In order to make it more efficient in real life conditions you definitely need a windscreen. I have a toaks titanium one that I use with this. The turbo plate is only needed in very cold conditions below freezing, ad it is designed to reflect the heat back to warm up the alcohol quicker which helps efficiently in these temperatures.
I use the turbo plate when using a larger/normal size pot as the flames get pushed out and then up. I don’t use the turbo plate when using a smaller pot. It DOES change the boil times in my testing.
Good revew Luke. I'll stick with the Firebox stove. May be heavier and expensive, but offers more options. Alcohol, wood, solid fuel or gas. Keep on Luke, your revews are always the best.
I have seen tests done where the Turboplate does affect performance. Basically it seals heat in, causing the alcohol to vaporise more and burn hotter. The tests are on UA-cam.
I have this stove and I love it. However it does not work as a wood stove. When I use it for solid fuel I use a tiny tray. The turbo plate is for winter use. You also need to use a wide pot with this stove.
I removed my handles. I use one pot (rim) grabber for handling hot containers. But I made thin insulating sleeves for my containers for after taking them off the heat.
The way I'd use that stove is on a long multi day hike. I would collect dry twigs when I get to camp , soak a couple in a few ml alcohol , light them , feed the stove and add more twigs. Boil water 4 Ramen etc . I'd only use the alcohol stove when everything is wet. If your only using a couple of ml instead of 20 to boil water sounds super efficient to me.
You can simmer with this stove, place the pot on the stove (no stand) resting (covering up) on the top level burn holes, so it’s just the lower burn holes that actually burn. I carry the whole stove setup in a Tupperware container.
I just made a comment complaining about the price variances. It's $2 more than buying everything separately. I now see that it's because of the pouch. I suppose the lessened rattling and scuffing comes at a mild premium.
For boiling water, use the stand. For simmering, set the pot/pan directly on the burner. The lower ring stays lit while it snuffs the upper ring. Good simmering temp! That's what I like about this burner. You can cook without a stand.
I have had mine about 6 years now. Worked great for backpacking when eating instant oatmeal, instant coffee, and freeze dried meals where you only need to heat water. I had no luck with Esbit tabs. My belief is that all those holes in the plate causes the tabs to burn too quickly. With other stoves designed for Esbit tabs they burn longer and get the water hotter.
As an ultralight boiler, it's nice but I don't see myself using it for only that when a Trangia will do it all for a few more ounces and a DIY windscreen. I can wait a couple extra minutes for the water to boil while I'm out in nature enjoying a day of hiking and camping. Plus you can pre-soak your food and just heat it up.
Excellent review, Luke! For someone looking for a more sensible approach to lightweight multifuel stoves the Trail Designs Caldera Cone is probably better, although it can be pricey, especially for some of the compact styles. Basically a one-piece vented cone that fits under the rolled lip of your pot, with a cutout for the open handles. That protects both the burner and pot from cooling wind or freezing ambient temperatures. But a solid fuel tab is still a bit anemic for such a setup, although it will benefit from such a competent windscreen. As a twig burner this is pretty decent because of its bigger size and feeding slot -- the pot can be raised up on a pair of needle/spikes threaded through 4 holes located perhaps a half inch below the top of the windscreen.
Been using this stove for 2 years. It works really well for cooking, though you may need to refill the stove with fuel depending on what you're cooking.
The Evernew alcohol stove actually works better when used with the Evernew Cross Stand 2 paired with a small wind screen and a wider style pot. No need for the DX titanium set. TIP: The Evernew Cross Stand 2 also works perfect with the Trangia Spirit stove as well. Thanks for the review!
I’ll stick with a Fancy Feast cat food can stove and an aluminum foil windscreen for a lightweight setup and a Trangia when I want more control. Thanks for the review though, I enjoy your honesty!
With the base part minus that alcohol stove, the whole thing looks like an ultra light version of what we made ourselves as a "Hobo can stove" back in the 1970s out of a huge can with appropriately punched air holes (bottom is the cook surface) placed upside down over a tuna can where the fuel which would be sticks or small chopped pieces of wood is placed. Just reminded me of it. I think I would like this stove you are reviewing as it is very light and easy to carry.
I adore Evernews. I had Evernew DX and DX2 on 2015-2018. I sold it out because it was very difficult to turn off, and also the flame was too spread, and also it was very vulnerable to strong wind. I usually to mountains where the wind can flatten tents/
Yeah, even at $55 I think it's too much for what it does and more importantly, doesn't do. I have a small folding titanium twig stove that is also designed to hold a Trangia alcohol stove. I paid $22 for the folding stove. It folds flat, has its own case and stows easily without fear of damage. It might not boil 2 cups of water in 4:30, but I can use my Trangia with its simmer ring and snuffer. I can buy a lot of fuel for the $23 saved. ;-)
Luke, awesome review! Maybe a little hard on my Japanese Brotha's, everyone needs a little turbo in their lives! The price point is good, the turbo plate would work for setting solid fuel tabs on it, and the weight is perfect. I'm SOLD!!!
Turbo plate. The Everniew 500 mil mugs will sit inside the stove, and the turbo plate will hold the mug closer to the alcohol stove flame, it looks like the optimal inch and a bit height above flame.
Design: 1) MYoG a capillary-stove (11g), 2) Aluminum base-screen (4g), 3) Power-plate separating top from bottom, 4) Fist-full of twigs no longer than the top-section, 5) 1/4oz of fuel (alcohol or lighter fluid or mix). Use: Alcohol-stove lights twigs. Twigs provide most of the heat for cooking. Alcohol/fuel also works in catalytic hand-warmers. Benefits: Carry almost no fuel weight. Evernew DX-windscreen alone (51g = 1.8oz). Capillary-stove (11g). Fuel bottle 4oz (12g). So for 186g (6.7oz) one has sixteen "cooks." Compare that to eight-to-ten "cooks" of a BRS/4oz canister set that weighs 280g (10oz)? When properly utilized, DX is the lightest, most versatile stove-set.
I've heard a lot of people say they regret buying this set and honestly when I first saw it I thought it looked awesome but personally I still love my trangia stuff which is so cheap and readily available
Ive used this stove for the last several years. It is my go to for coffee, tea personal water boil. Its incredibly tough and light. I do find the stove fires up slightly quicker in the cold weather with the "turbo" plate on before lighting. Since i fits right into thetoaks as you said, its a perfect companion.
I have one and it’s perfect for day hikes. Took the stove and put it in my meetzu stove and works perfectly. It’s the creative side when learning to use the evernew. A trangia stove will fit in there as well. Like I said day hikes, preppers use or claim a survival stove. That one is in the imagination range of particular uses. Still my go to man for good reviews!!!!! SEMPER FI
always read the comment section :D I have been watching the stove and videos for about 3 years know. And trying things out on my own. From that I learned about the adding of the salt fore a visable flame, using bigger pots because the shooting flames helps to distribute the heat more for frying food. Also why not use some extras like a windscreen if need and a little lid from the trangia stove or similar to control the output. And yes as others also mentioned the turbo plate has a use, as a primer to help it ignite and reach the right temp. I would not buy it because I already have a hobostove and a bcb burner. Since it is titanum though, it should be quite durable. Nice to have the review done though, since I would not have known about it otherwise. I hope you had a nice christmas and wish you and your family all the best. Happy new years Luke!
I have this same Evernew set up, and love it as an alcohol stove set up. One day just because I did try boiling water with it as a wood stove, and it was HORRIBLE!! I did notice a small difference in using the turbo plate with a small amount of heat fuel, but will admit I don’t run as extensive tests as you do.
I have been using alcohol for heating and boiling water for 20 years. It is worth mentioning that sleeping with both your fuel and a hot water bottle will guarantee you the most rapid reheating of that water in the morning. Works with all fuels.
Good review. Thanks I don't have much time or use for alcohol stoves. I've been using a MSR XGK multi-fuel stove for 40 years now. See no reason to change.
While it may not include a way to snuff the flame, you could simply add a small coffee can to your gear that is large enough to set over the stove. If every drop of fuel counts then an improvised yet reusable way to put it out seems like a good idea. When you're not using the can to 'turn off' your stove it could be used for other things so it doesn't just take up space.
My experience is that the turbo plate doesn't do much, so it doesn't matter that it warps -- I leave it at home. It is a great alcohol stove for boiling water. In an emergency situation where you might have run out of alcohol, twigs will work, but you will be feeding the stove constantly (And you would need the plate). I, too, would never use it for solid fuel. If I am going to carry solid fuel, I will carry a solid fuel specific stove.
Since a lightweight kit means little to me, I would go for a heavier alcohol stove with internal fuel storage and a simmer/damper plate. I AM impressed with how this design spreads the flame around a pot.
The best stove I've found is the small Titanium ISO-Butane mix stove I bought from Self Reliance Outfitters that only weighs an Ounce. Its smaller than a Bic Lighter, has its own bag, and only cost $20. Its like a "Rosebud" Torch. GREAT for boiling Water, not so much for cooking...just burns one spot. To me unbeatable...small, light, cheap and does the job.
Thats actually just a rebranded BR3000T, a very popular stove and is cheaper without Pathfinder printed on it. It's 28 grams btw. All the Ti gear has been available for years by other brands. They got called on it and admitted it.
Don't use both sections. Place the burner in the outer section and use like that, minus the hot plate. Much more manageable. Use the regulator from a Trangier burner to snuff out the flame once done. Love my Evernew.
When it comes to alcohol stoves, it's really hard to beat a simple cat foot can with some holes punched in it. Can't get much lighter weight or cheaper than that. It's really hard to justify anything else unless you really want built in fuel storage or a simmer option. Twig stoves on the other hand, especially the gasifying ones with a bottom are excellent for leaving no trace if that's important to you, and can use found twigs for fuel. These may still be allowed where open fires aren't (Check local regulations) and will still work in very cold conditions, unlike iso-butane but take much longer to use and to cool down before you can pack up and get moving again. Everything has tradeoffs.
Great review. I put it in my amazon list just to keep an eye on prices. Right now its $65 bucks. Its a possible option for future trips. It seems most parks have no problems with canister stoves, so I’ll probably go that rout till I vet out the rule & regs. I do like the form factor when stowed in your titanium cup/pot. But, yeah, hot handles look to be an issue that needs to be kept in mind along with knowing when the stove is truly out when in bright conditions. Keep making um and I’ll keep watching um sir.
I bought one not titanium but aluminum and I paid $14 for it and it is definitely the exact same stove just different metal and it is definitely perfect for alcohol only.
There is a 3rd kit set that came with a 550ml mug that has a bottom fit with the upper part. Been using this for years for hiking but not camping because you cant cook with this as you mentioned, it drinks up alcohol fast but it it perfect for just boiling water for coffee during your hike. i never use the upper part because the fire is too fierce. try to use it with the base part. Cant agree more that this isnt a wood stove but you can use it as a wood stove for short time. You can just use the trangia cover for simmering and easily get one from amazon like 2 or 3 dollar.
While this type of stove is okay as a backup, I once used a surplus East German alcohol stove as a backup, I’d much rather go with a Trangia system, if I felt the need for alcohol stoves. The plus with Trangia is they have accessories for isobutane and another one for gas, diesel, kerosene, or white gas. I know, that would add weight, but I’ve always carried a heavy pack, as I’ve gotten older, my creature comforts rank higher on the list. I want to be prepared for most outcomes. And yes, I know Trangia is expensive, but there’s a saying about getting what you pay for, and Trangia produces a quality product. Anything else, you just might dig a pit in the ground and burn dead wood, but that doesn’t meet the boys-and-toys point system.
$55 seems a lot for an alcohol burner, but the performance looks impressive. I’ll stick with my Primus ISO and Canway. I tend to carry both a lot, canway makes a good backup and it’s fun to use.
I think this stove is a good choice for anyone who is looking for a lightweight option. The material is sturdy and light. It burns just as well as any alcohol stove. Make your own if you can and make it even lighter.
As high as those flames go on the side, it seems like grabbing the handles with anything remotely flammable could be hazardous. And reaching in with one of those mini pot lifters might get too close for comfort as well. I actually like the setup from Pathfinder better. It may not be turbo charged, but it's a good design for alcohol burning or for solid fuel or biomass.
I have a chainis copy of the alcohol stove with a cross bar pot stand. Works really good but it's take a minute longer to blom comper to the original EVERNEW. Thanks for all the great videos and advantages. Marry Christmas to all
Using a wider titanium pot, and pack with hot chocolate / coffee or instant soup / noodle mixes for protection? Get s you over the excessive "jetting" from the alcohol fuel burner, works really well I find. With a bigger pot its bulkier, but big pots work well half full?
Four and a half minute to boil 2 cups of water with an alcohol stove is really fast! But in my experience, a fast boil is achieved by using more fuel. My homemade stove take nearly 8 minutes to achive a 2 cup boil, but it uses half an ounce of fuel to achieve this. I tested out different numbers and sizes of holes to find the best fuel efficiency, my first attempts ended with a full ounce of fuel to boil two cups, in about six minutes, but I experimented further until I got to about half an ounce of fuel and further reduce the amount of holes just made for longer boil time, or even not achieving a boil at all with to few holes. How much does it take for this fast boil time ? I'd guess about a full ounce of fuel more! Not a problem for a short trip, like a day hike, overnighter or even a weekend, but I have been doing quite a few trips in the 1-2 week range, and then it really add up a fair difference in the amount of alcohol needed. If you have to bring half a quart or one and a half quart of fuel is about 2 lbs difference! (Sorry about any small inaccuracies in the measurements used, I converted all measurements from metric to imperial measurements in my head and rounded them up to fairly even numbers, so they are not exact in any way.)
I personally would not buy it. I have learned over the past few years of getting into backpacking , that the majority what I have bought because I thought it was cool and would work well on backpacking trips sits at home in a tote like the land of misfit toys 😂. Thanks for review Luke sure do appreciate the no b.s. and honest reviews. That tote full of crap is because of me buying into other UA-camrs saying how awesome the product they were pushing was. After hundreds of dollars and hard lessons I realized that most UA-camrs get products for free as long as they give a positive review. With you we get pure no B's honesty.
Thank you for a thorough review AND tutorial! Looking @ camping equip and anything that can cause a fire makes me nervous. One day I would like the full tent with stove, we'll see. Keep on trekking! Honor and Fortitude! :) Happy 2023 to you and your fam! :)
the set up size looks to be about the same as the Svea 123R gas stove...granted they weigh more than 3.5oz but the btu output is head and shoulders above an alcy stove.
Been using it for years now (alcohol only) without the turboplate ( I have placed on the bottom of the chamber) .. Works well for those short cooking of water on the peaks, day trips only and I'm very pleased with it. Solid fuel (wood) are burned on my Kelly Kettles or during real winter camping I use Omnifuel or Soto StormBreaker. Most of the outdoor titanium products are overpriced.
I'd rather use my titanium wood stove that's able to put my trangia alcohol stove in it for wind protection because it breaks down into flat parts to pack away. So if I want to use wood to burn instead, I have that option. Since I already have it and it works fine for me.
I really enjoy my Evernew stove, the stand however, meh. I recommend purchasing the cross bar stand if you are using smaller pots or if the pot base is unstable (Stanley adventure cup). This stand will nest very nicely inside the standard GSI steel cup if you’re looking for an affordable pot/cup.
Hey Luke!!! Have you tried the Biolite Camp stove yet? It's a pretty cool stove that can charge electronics as it burns fuel.I have not covered that one on my channel yet.... see ya on the next adventure! S&H sir!
Good day Luke and susan i hope your all having a wonderful day so far.were getting ready for a huge snow storm thursday and Friday...you should come here and camp....in it you to are very kool and the only one's i listen to out side of AB....happy camping
I think that pot should sit directly on the stove, perhaps off the pot with a wide pan. sitting directly on a pot closes the top vents. but I agree, its a gimmick to sell to the outdoors wildcamping market. I'm a victim but only of the burner.
You should use everclear with your evernew. Then you can warm up from the inside. If I want to lightweight alcohol stove I can pour some alcohol in an Altoids tin and it's even lighter couple of rocks to hold the pot or tent stakes I'm done. Same thing I use with my solid fuel.
Great Review. Didn´t see the length of the video and thought you were done halfway through, but then the great review of the cons came. I think in summary that this is a marketing scam. Turbo Plate and also Multi Fuel sound very good, but its in fact just a very light alcohol stove.
You need to make your own alcohol stove if you want to boil water with less than an oz of fuel. Combination tomato paste can, cat food can and some wicking material. Its my go to stove in mild temperatures. If you need 2 oz to boil water you will be carrying to much fuel.
Evernew pots actually have a ridge on the base that engages with the top of the stove. If you're using it with the designed pot, it's not slipping off. The turbo plate is for winter to help the stove prime.
For future reference, you can add table salt to your alcohol to make the flames visible for filming.
Brilliant tip!
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Very true
I put some gun powder in the denatured alcohol to give it visibility and a bit of oomph
Great review! My humble tips from a few years use; 1. Use just the top half of the stand if you want a smaller flame, much more efficient, 1oz will boil 400ml. 2. Use the corresponding 550 cup with the base lip to hold it in place. 3. A 2oz round Nalgene for fuel will fit in the burner, in the stand, in the 550 cup, with a silicon pot gripper, alu cut windscreen and a mini bic - that is a very tidy bru kit! Cheers from the UK!
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To make the alcohol flame visible, add 10 grams of table salt to 1 liter of alcohol. After working through a long series of conversion factors I came up with more manageable units of just under half a teaspoon of salt per cup of alcohol. It works.
I own that stove, not the DX stand & I love it. Very efficient, with a DIY foil windscreen, u can set ur cup directly on the top burners, after it's primed & 1oz fuel will boil 2 cups of water, enough for a coffee & a cuppa soup. It does take awhile, and sometimes it's hard to see if it's burning, but it's quiet & I usually have time. I even have setup a double boiler & steam-baked my nephew a birthday cake in the backcountry! (Thanks Chef Corso)
I have since upgraded to the Goshawk titanium Multi-fuel wood gasifier stove, EDDY-200 Pioneer and Lixada siphon alcohol burner, with snuffer & simmer ring mods - easy to snuff & recover unused fuel (thanks Mark Young). 1 cup of hardwood pellets & a lil hand sanitizer starts up so easily, with little to no smoke, 35min active flame & 55min heat is pretty sweet!
Enjoy your channel reviews and adventures! I’ve used this setup for years and here are my thoughts: the turbo plate works in below freezing conditions to reflect heat back to the burner and “turbo” the burn. In warmer temps you don’t need it. The Evernew pots have a ridge that keep the pot from sliding off. It actually works quite well in wood stove mode…..if you know how. Small twigs that release energy quickly with burn great. You almost continuously feed which I enjoy anyway. The alcohol burner is powerful…..it will boil super fast. It also uses considerably more fuel and is not as efficient as several others. The slower the burn and longer boil times actually use less fuel. Anyway it’s a serviceable stove. I’ve never burned Esbit so I will not comment. All the best! Doug
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At 10:20 you entirely missed the point that the correct 500ml pot fits properly, unlike the generic ones you used.
"Power plate". At 00:46 the instruction manual says "when the temperature is low and stove does not give off enough heat, set Power Plate inside of upper stand". The power plate helps to warm the fuel, a known issue with alcohol stoves in cold weather. I've found that using it in hot weather (as I did the first time I tried it, by mistake) has the tendency to overheat the fuel and consume it far too quickly.
Regarding the wide flame base ... yeah, I've found this stove is more suited to wider pots where the flame doesn't get wasted up the side to heat the handle.
Having said all that I rarely use this stove as I have other stoves which are just more convenient and where it's easier to adjust the flame when cooking.
That makes sense. A red hot conductive mass over the fuel probably vaporizes it well.
I still have my evernew Appalachian titanium stove set. It is a little smaller than the DX. I have had my stove for 10 plus years and it has saved my life a handful of times where I was able to have a compact multi fuel stove that allowed me to boil water in a wet environment when otherwise a fire was not possible. After 10 plus years of moderate use I can still say that this is still a relevant piece of gear that I would add to my kit when leaving for an extended stay in the wilderness.
I consider multiple fuels to be a huge bonus. I usually take a wood stove and my buddy takes an alcohol stove. Whenever it's wet, he boils my water, when it's not, I boil his.
What you call “gimmick”, I would call backup use.
It’s one of the best stove systems I’ve used and I’ve had mine a decade. It excels as an alcohol stove. The wood stove/solid fuel stoves are just backups in case you run out of alcohol.
Ever since I learned how to make a Penny alcohol burners out of soda cans and or soup cans I’ve never been without hot food or water. I’ve made many types and sizes and have spent next to nothing. 😁
I didn’t care for mine until I bought the cup for it. It makes it very steady. I also modified my to fit a trangia burner. That combination is great.
It is a piece of kit that you need to learn about in your backyard before taking it anywhere. For example, the burner can be used without the windshield, if you look it has two rows of holes. When you put a pot on top of it, the lower holes burn with a perfect temperature for cooking rice and you get a perfect burn time for cooking rice. It is expensive compared to other stoves on the market, some of them were not around when it was first released. I would not take much notice of some of the stuff in this video, its a great review if all you ever do is worry about how long a cup of water takes to boil, but it does miss some of the best features and configurations, which is not the fault of the reviewer, Evernew has published close to nothing on how to get the best out of this set-up, you have to do some trial and error to find out some of the features.
For people who are saying its wasteful as you cant empty fuel out of it. Think about it. You dont need to fill it full. Like any kit USE it understand it. See how much fuel it will typically take to boil the required water then only use that much.
15ml will typically last about 10 minutes in most alcohol stoves so no need to fill it full to the 30ml it can hold.
Plus as Luke said its designed for ultralight, so 99.9% of there cooking is boil water and add to a dehydrated meal. If you want to simmer a trangia fits in it.
Hi Luke, I am a passionate backpacker and love the outdoors. I realy enjoy your videos and content and look forward to watching them. I have this dx set with the pot and cup combo for a number of years, as one of my many alchohol stoves and use it only once in a while as it is not my favorite one. In order to make it more efficient in real life conditions you definitely need a windscreen. I have a toaks titanium one that I use with this. The turbo plate is only needed in very cold conditions below freezing, ad it is designed to reflect the heat back to warm up the alcohol quicker which helps efficiently in these temperatures.
I use the turbo plate when using a larger/normal size pot as the flames get pushed out and then up. I don’t use the turbo plate when using a smaller pot. It DOES change the boil times in my testing.
Good revew Luke. I'll stick with the Firebox stove. May be heavier and expensive, but offers more options. Alcohol, wood, solid fuel or gas. Keep on Luke, your revews are always the best.
I have seen tests done where the Turboplate does affect performance. Basically it seals heat in, causing the alcohol to vaporise more and burn hotter. The tests are on UA-cam.
I keep one of these in each of my vehicle get home bags.
I have this stove and I love it. However it does not work as a wood stove. When I use it for solid fuel I use a tiny tray. The turbo plate is for winter use. You also need to use a wide pot with this stove.
I removed my handles. I use one pot (rim) grabber for handling hot containers. But I made thin insulating sleeves for my containers for after taking them off the heat.
The way I'd use that stove is on a long multi day hike. I would collect dry twigs when I get to camp , soak a couple in a few ml alcohol , light them , feed the stove and add more twigs. Boil water 4 Ramen etc . I'd only use the alcohol stove when everything is wet. If your only using a couple of ml instead of 20 to boil water sounds super efficient to me.
You can simmer with this stove, place the pot on the stove (no stand) resting (covering up) on the top level burn holes, so it’s just the lower burn holes that actually burn. I carry the whole stove setup in a Tupperware container.
I think I paid $85-90 for mine, but it also came with a pot and pouch. I do feel it was a little over priced, but still happy with it
I just made a comment complaining about the price variances. It's $2 more than buying everything separately. I now see that it's because of the pouch. I suppose the lessened rattling and scuffing comes at a mild premium.
When it's wood it's polluting, when it's "biomass" it's eco. Haha!
For boiling water, use the stand. For simmering, set the pot/pan directly on the burner. The lower ring stays lit while it snuffs the upper ring. Good simmering temp! That's what I like about this burner. You can cook without a stand.
I have had mine about 6 years now. Worked great for backpacking when eating instant oatmeal, instant coffee, and freeze dried meals where you only need to heat water. I had no luck with Esbit tabs. My belief is that all those holes in the plate causes the tabs to burn too quickly. With other stoves designed for Esbit tabs they burn longer and get the water hotter.
I'll go for a cone. Same weight but better in strong wind. If needed there are options for using it as a wood stove as well.
As an ultralight boiler, it's nice but I don't see myself using it for only that when a Trangia will do it all for a few more ounces and a DIY windscreen. I can wait a couple extra minutes for the water to boil while I'm out in nature enjoying a day of hiking and camping. Plus you can pre-soak your food and just heat it up.
Excellent review, Luke! For someone looking for a more sensible approach to lightweight multifuel stoves the Trail Designs Caldera Cone is probably better, although it can be pricey, especially for some of the compact styles.
Basically a one-piece vented cone that fits under the rolled lip of your pot, with a cutout for the open handles. That protects both the burner and pot from cooling wind or freezing ambient temperatures. But a solid fuel tab is still a bit anemic for such a setup, although it will benefit from such a competent windscreen. As a twig burner this is pretty decent because of its bigger size and feeding slot -- the pot can be raised up on a pair of needle/spikes threaded through 4 holes located perhaps a half inch below the top of the windscreen.
Been using this stove for 2 years. It works really well for cooking, though you may need to refill the stove with fuel depending on what you're cooking.
The Evernew alcohol stove actually works better when used with the Evernew Cross Stand 2 paired with a small wind screen and a wider style pot. No need for the DX titanium set. TIP: The Evernew Cross Stand 2 also works perfect with the Trangia Spirit stove as well. Thanks for the review!
I’ll stick with a Fancy Feast cat food can stove and an aluminum foil windscreen for a lightweight setup and a Trangia when I want more control. Thanks for the review though, I enjoy your honesty!
I got this stove and i can say its worth it, only the Dänisch alcohol stove is near by this one
With the base part minus that alcohol stove, the whole thing looks like an ultra light version of what we made ourselves as a "Hobo can stove" back in the 1970s out of a huge can with appropriately punched air holes (bottom is the cook surface) placed upside down over a tuna can where the fuel which would be sticks or small chopped pieces of wood is placed. Just reminded me of it. I think I would like this stove you are reviewing as it is very light and easy to carry.
I adore Evernews. I had Evernew DX and DX2 on 2015-2018. I sold it out because it was very difficult to turn off, and also the flame was too spread, and also it was very vulnerable to strong wind.
I usually to mountains where the wind can flatten tents/
Yeah, even at $55 I think it's too much for what it does and more importantly, doesn't do. I have a small folding titanium twig stove that is also designed to hold a Trangia alcohol stove. I paid $22 for the folding stove. It folds flat, has its own case and stows easily without fear of damage. It might not boil 2 cups of water in 4:30, but I can use my Trangia with its simmer ring and snuffer. I can buy a lot of fuel for the $23 saved. ;-)
Luke, awesome review! Maybe a little hard on my Japanese Brotha's, everyone needs a little turbo in their lives! The price point is good, the turbo plate would work for setting solid fuel tabs on it, and the weight is perfect. I'm SOLD!!!
Turbo plate. The Everniew 500 mil mugs will sit inside the stove, and the turbo plate will hold the mug closer to the alcohol stove flame, it looks like the optimal inch and a bit height above flame.
Design: 1) MYoG a capillary-stove (11g), 2) Aluminum base-screen (4g), 3) Power-plate separating top from bottom, 4) Fist-full of twigs no longer than the top-section, 5) 1/4oz of fuel (alcohol or lighter fluid or mix). Use: Alcohol-stove lights twigs. Twigs provide most of the heat for cooking. Alcohol/fuel also works in catalytic hand-warmers. Benefits: Carry almost no fuel weight. Evernew DX-windscreen alone (51g = 1.8oz). Capillary-stove (11g). Fuel bottle 4oz (12g). So for 186g (6.7oz) one has sixteen "cooks." Compare that to eight-to-ten "cooks" of a BRS/4oz canister set that weighs 280g (10oz)? When properly utilized, DX is the lightest, most versatile stove-set.
I've heard a lot of people say they regret buying this set and honestly when I first saw it I thought it looked awesome but personally I still love my trangia stuff which is so cheap and readily available
Ive used this stove for the last several years. It is my go to for coffee, tea personal water boil. Its incredibly tough and light. I do find the stove fires up slightly quicker in the cold weather with the "turbo" plate on before lighting. Since i fits right into thetoaks as you said, its a perfect companion.
You can actually use a trangia snuffer to simmer the titanium stove with the side jets going. To snuff the flame you can try a a big tuna can.
I have one and it’s perfect for day hikes. Took the stove and put it in my meetzu stove and works perfectly. It’s the creative side when learning to use the evernew. A trangia stove will fit in there as well. Like I said day hikes, preppers use or claim a survival stove. That one is in the imagination range of particular uses. Still my go to man for good reviews!!!!!
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I have been watching the stove and videos for about 3 years know. And trying things out on my own.
From that I learned about the adding of the salt fore a visable flame, using bigger pots because the shooting flames helps to distribute the heat more for frying food.
Also why not use some extras like a windscreen if need and a little lid from the trangia stove or similar to control the output.
And yes as others also mentioned the turbo plate has a use, as a primer to help it ignite and reach the right temp.
I would not buy it because I already have a hobostove and a bcb burner. Since it is titanum though, it should be quite durable.
Nice to have the review done though, since I would not have known about it otherwise.
I hope you had a nice christmas and wish you and your family all the best. Happy new years Luke!
I have this same Evernew set up, and love it as an alcohol stove set up. One day just because I did try boiling water with it as a wood stove, and it was HORRIBLE!! I did notice a small difference in using the turbo plate with a small amount of heat fuel, but will admit I don’t run as extensive tests as you do.
I have been using alcohol for heating and boiling water for 20 years.
It is worth mentioning that sleeping with both your fuel and a hot water bottle will guarantee you the most rapid reheating of that water in the morning. Works with all fuels.
Good review. Thanks
I don't have much time or use for alcohol stoves. I've been using a MSR XGK multi-fuel stove for 40 years now. See no reason to change.
While it may not include a way to snuff the flame, you could simply add a small coffee can to your gear that is large enough to set over the stove. If every drop of fuel counts then an improvised yet reusable way to put it out seems like a good idea. When you're not using the can to 'turn off' your stove it could be used for other things so it doesn't just take up space.
My experience is that the turbo plate doesn't do much, so it doesn't matter that it warps -- I leave it at home. It is a great alcohol stove for boiling water. In an emergency situation where you might have run out of alcohol, twigs will work, but you will be feeding the stove constantly (And you would need the plate). I, too, would never use it for solid fuel. If I am going to carry solid fuel, I will carry a solid fuel specific stove.
If you used a sleeve around the pot, you could cut the boil time. Could use foil, or Al sheet.
Since a lightweight kit means little to me, I would go for a heavier alcohol stove with internal fuel storage and a simmer/damper plate. I AM impressed with how this design spreads the flame around a pot.
The best stove I've found is the small Titanium ISO-Butane mix stove I bought from Self Reliance Outfitters that only weighs an Ounce. Its smaller than a Bic Lighter, has its own bag, and only cost $20. Its like a "Rosebud" Torch. GREAT for boiling Water, not so much for cooking...just burns one spot. To me unbeatable...small, light, cheap and does the job.
Thats actually just a rebranded BR3000T, a very popular stove and is cheaper without Pathfinder printed on it. It's 28 grams btw. All the Ti gear has been available for years by other brands. They got called on it and admitted it.
@@bc81 BTW, 28 grams is an ounce
Don't use both sections. Place the burner in the outer section and use like that, minus the hot plate. Much more manageable. Use the regulator from a Trangier burner to snuff out the flame once done. Love my Evernew.
When it comes to alcohol stoves, it's really hard to beat a simple cat foot can with some holes punched in it. Can't get much lighter weight or cheaper than that. It's really hard to justify anything else unless you really want built in fuel storage or a simmer option. Twig stoves on the other hand, especially the gasifying ones with a bottom are excellent for leaving no trace if that's important to you, and can use found twigs for fuel. These may still be allowed where open fires aren't (Check local regulations) and will still work in very cold conditions, unlike iso-butane but take much longer to use and to cool down before you can pack up and get moving again. Everything has tradeoffs.
Great review. I put it in my amazon list just to keep an eye on prices. Right now its $65 bucks. Its a possible option for future trips. It seems most parks have no problems with canister stoves, so I’ll probably go that rout till I vet out the rule & regs. I do like the form factor when stowed in your titanium cup/pot. But, yeah, hot handles look to be an issue that needs to be kept in mind along with knowing when the stove is truly out when in bright conditions. Keep making um and I’ll keep watching um sir.
I use mine with the cross stand no flame up the turbo plate is used in the winter
I bought one not titanium but aluminum and I paid $14 for it and it is definitely the exact same stove just different metal and it is definitely perfect for alcohol only.
I find the turbo plate is a good base for a Toaks siphon stove. WIth a Sterno Inferno HE cup I boil 16 oz with 2/3 oz of Heet.
I picked one of these up for $30 and at that price I think it's worth it. Hopefully the warping isn't too bad in the long term.
If you buy everclear it’s a dual purpose item ! Just trying to be efficient 😊
There is a 3rd kit set that came with a 550ml mug that has a bottom fit with the upper part. Been using this for years for hiking but not camping because you cant cook with this as you mentioned, it drinks up alcohol fast but it it perfect for just boiling water for coffee during your hike. i never use the upper part because the fire is too fierce. try to use it with the base part. Cant agree more that this isnt a wood stove but you can use it as a wood stove for short time. You can just use the trangia cover for simmering and easily get one from amazon like 2 or 3 dollar.
While this type of stove is okay as a backup, I once used a surplus East German alcohol stove as a backup, I’d much rather go with a Trangia system, if I felt the need for alcohol stoves. The plus with Trangia is they have accessories for isobutane and another one for gas, diesel, kerosene, or white gas. I know, that would add weight, but I’ve always carried a heavy pack, as I’ve gotten older, my creature comforts rank higher on the list. I want to be prepared for most outcomes.
And yes, I know Trangia is expensive, but there’s a saying about getting what you pay for, and Trangia produces a quality product. Anything else, you just might dig a pit in the ground and burn dead wood, but that doesn’t meet the boys-and-toys point system.
$55 seems a lot for an alcohol burner, but the performance looks impressive. I’ll stick with my Primus ISO and Canway. I tend to carry both a lot, canway makes a good backup and it’s fun to use.
I think this stove is a good choice for anyone who is looking for a lightweight option. The material is sturdy and light. It burns just as well as any alcohol stove. Make your own if you can and make it even lighter.
I ended up getting a nite core nu33. Thanks for the recommendation. This thing is legit!
As high as those flames go on the side, it seems like grabbing the handles with anything remotely flammable could be hazardous. And reaching in with one of those mini pot lifters might get too close for comfort as well. I actually like the setup from Pathfinder better. It may not be turbo charged, but it's a good design for alcohol burning or for solid fuel or biomass.
I have a chainis copy of the alcohol stove with a cross bar pot stand. Works really good but it's take a minute longer to blom comper to the original EVERNEW.
Thanks for all the great videos and advantages. Marry Christmas to all
Using a wider titanium pot, and pack with hot chocolate / coffee or instant soup / noodle mixes for protection? Get s you over the excessive "jetting" from the alcohol fuel burner, works really well I find. With a bigger pot its bulkier, but big pots work well half full?
Four and a half minute to boil 2 cups of water with an alcohol stove is really fast!
But in my experience, a fast boil is achieved by using more fuel.
My homemade stove take nearly 8 minutes to achive a 2 cup boil, but it uses half an ounce of fuel to achieve this. I tested out different numbers and sizes of holes to find the best fuel efficiency, my first attempts ended with a full ounce of fuel to boil two cups, in about six minutes, but I experimented further until I got to about half an ounce of fuel and further reduce the amount of holes just made for longer boil time, or even not achieving a boil at all with to few holes.
How much does it take for this fast boil time ? I'd guess about a full ounce of fuel more!
Not a problem for a short trip, like a day hike, overnighter or even a weekend, but I have been doing quite a few trips in the 1-2 week range, and then it really add up a fair difference in the amount of alcohol needed.
If you have to bring half a quart or one and a half quart of fuel is about 2 lbs difference!
(Sorry about any small inaccuracies in the measurements used, I converted all measurements from metric to imperial measurements in my head and rounded them up to fairly even numbers, so they are not exact in any way.)
I personally would not buy it. I have learned over the past few years of getting into backpacking , that the majority what I have bought because I thought it was cool and would work well on backpacking trips sits at home in a tote like the land of misfit toys 😂. Thanks for review Luke sure do appreciate the no b.s. and honest reviews. That tote full of crap is because of me buying into other UA-camrs saying how awesome the product they were pushing was. After hundreds of dollars and hard lessons I realized that most UA-camrs get products for free as long as they give a positive review. With you we get pure no B's honesty.
Thank you for a thorough review AND tutorial! Looking @ camping equip and anything that can cause a fire makes me nervous. One day I would like the full tent with stove, we'll see. Keep on trekking! Honor and Fortitude! :) Happy 2023 to you and your fam! :)
the set up size looks to be about the same as the Svea 123R gas stove...granted they weigh more than 3.5oz but the btu output is head and shoulders above an alcy stove.
Been using it for years now (alcohol only) without the turboplate ( I have placed on the bottom of the chamber) .. Works well for those short cooking of water on the peaks, day trips only and I'm very pleased with it. Solid fuel (wood) are burned on my Kelly Kettles or during real winter camping I use Omnifuel or Soto StormBreaker.
Most of the outdoor titanium products are overpriced.
windless peaks?
@@vvs3796 Always (nearly) wind on the peaks. I live in Norway :)
Looks good, price is not bad, if you need a low budget alcohol stove i think the fancy feast is one of the best...use it quite a lot
I'd rather use my titanium wood stove that's able to put my trangia alcohol stove in it for wind protection because it breaks down into flat parts to pack away. So if I want to use wood to burn instead, I have that option. Since I already have it and it works fine for me.
Yup. Me to. Storing flat is a huge bonus. I can carry some small pieces of wood and fat wood. It is still more compact.
I use mine with a 1.5 L jet boil pot. It boils insanely fast.
I really enjoy your reviews. Have a great, if not chilly Christmas.
I really enjoy my Evernew stove, the stand however, meh. I recommend purchasing the cross bar stand if you are using smaller pots or if the pot base is unstable (Stanley adventure cup). This stand will nest very nicely inside the standard GSI steel cup if you’re looking for an affordable pot/cup.
Luke, I wish you did not hide behind your shades. You are loved amongst your content followers. ❤️ brother.
I have one and it's a flame thrower. It would be awesome if a simmer ring could be made for it.
Hey Luke!!! Have you tried the Biolite Camp stove yet? It's a pretty cool stove that can charge electronics as it burns fuel.I have not covered that one on my channel yet.... see ya on the next adventure! S&H sir!
Must use a wider pot to be more effective and efficient
Use a snuffer from Trangia
Quick tip for campers. If you're heating water just for coffee, no need to boil it, let it get 75% of the way there then make your coffee
Good day Luke and susan i hope your all having a wonderful day so far.were getting ready for a huge snow storm thursday and Friday...you should come here and camp....in it you to are very kool and the only one's i listen to out side of AB....happy camping
I’ve found the turbo-plate to boil faster in snow conditions. I’ve found it not to make a difference in the summer.
I think that pot should sit directly on the stove, perhaps off the pot with a wide pan. sitting directly on a pot closes the top vents.
but I agree, its a gimmick to sell to the outdoors wildcamping market. I'm a victim but only of the burner.
Very informative. Thank You. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family
What are your recommendations for a wood stove?
this kit is £129 at my local outdoor shop that specialises in more lightweight products.
So a gas stove is more efficient? What about cost efficiency, which would do better alcohol or gas?
I did notice at the beginning. It was warped. 😮
Nice stove but it needs a way to adjust the burner for alcohol stove
You should use everclear with your evernew. Then you can warm up from the inside.
If I want to lightweight alcohol stove I can pour some alcohol in an Altoids tin and it's even lighter couple of rocks to hold the pot or tent stakes I'm done. Same thing I use with my solid fuel.
Great Review. Didn´t see the length of the video and thought you were done halfway through, but then the great review of the cons came. I think in summary that this is a marketing scam. Turbo Plate and also Multi Fuel sound very good, but its in fact just a very light alcohol stove.
Good morning from Northern Utah wishing you and your family . Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Luke and family !!
You need to make your own alcohol stove if you want to boil water with less than an oz of fuel. Combination tomato paste can, cat food can and some wicking material. Its my go to stove in mild temperatures. If you need 2 oz to boil water you will be carrying to much fuel.
I am slightly fearful of alcoholic stoves since you have no control over the flame. Plus turning it off can we hazardous.
You could use the empty pot inside down over the stove to put it out.