Thank you so much =) Happy that people enjoy watching me think through the game, and I love learning new things from players who have tidbits of wisdom that come in the comments.
Excited to see a new guide for Endless Space 2 after Humankind! Side note: It looks like your channel home tab doesn't have anything on it 4X, that's a pretty high impact area for improvement.
Thank you for going back to Endless Space 2 content, it is good to see you back. You can see constellations by zooming way out in normal view. Also scavenged ramscoop is the most broken thing in the game, the +25% distance stacks, putting 3 of these on a carrier with a seeker hero makes the fleet zoom through a huge galaxy.
I've been experimenting with that. The Ramscoop is indeed ridiculous, thanks for calling it out. You don't need to have many extra movement points for the +25% to become better than the 6 movement big engine. I love the Sophon Seeker hero with the ramscoop
Hey man, I've just started playing this game and found your channel after being sorely disappointed by the lack of content being uploaded for this game in the past year and I've really enjoyed your videos! I do hope you continue to make content for ES 2 regardless of whether it's these 30 turn guides, fun challenges like the 1 city game or even more multiplayer games with your brother or other players I'm game for them all
Great to see you came back! Quick tip for knowing if some nodes are in or out of your constellation ( as in 1:05:15 ) If you zoom out, and mouse over your constellation name, you'll see that every node and starlink from the constellation will start to shimmer, letting you know if they give you the constellation control bonus or not.
Thankyou so much for this great explanation. I've always struggled with Hissho and didn't realize I was playing them COMPLETELY wrong, and playing again after watching this was like night and day :D
@4X Alchemist : I am curious where you are getting your information on over colonization penalties for the Hissho. The tool tip you hovered over only mentions a penalty to the Kii cost of future colonies. It makes no mention of a 5% reduction to FIDSI and I cannot find that information anywhere else. I am not saying it doesn't exist, but curious where you discovered this. Was it from over colonizing and seeing it identified on all your systems? Or does it mention this penalty somewhere else in the tool tips?
So I think I found it. According to the online wiki the -5% FIDS penalty is mentioned when you mouse over the "resource recoverer" faction trait. It applies to all systems you own ... And stacks -5% for each system you are above the cap. I did not notice this in my previous playthrough and it is curious to me that it is not mentioned in the tool tip when you mouse over the over colonization cap. Mousing over the cap only mentions that Kii costs will increase higher and higher as you exceed the cap, but does not mention the -5% FIDS penalty. On the plus side it does not seem to penalize Influence....so there is that. I will have to rethink my strategy with this faction now as I am pretty sure I had discovered a semi-exploit in one of my playthroughs where I could colonize systems for "free" without paying Kii. This lead me to consider a rapid expansionist strategy as if the only penalty for being above the cap was higher Kii costs and I wasn't paying Kii anyways...what did I care about the cap?!?!,...but that may not work as intended if there are indeed % penalties that stack up. I will have to experiment with it and see.
@@thenoseplays2488 Yes you found it. I think their intent with this really hard FIDSI penalty was to force HIssho to be "tall". They get the absolutely amazing mines, but have to give up dreams of major expansion. I found a better explanation on an ES2 wiki, as the first time I played them I had no idea about it either.
@@4XAlchemist I think this would make more sense if each system set to "Ancestral Reverence" was not counted against the over colonization cap. There is a tool tip somewhere that mentioned "AR" systems are not counted for something associated with a penalty, but I don't think it was in reference to over colonization penalties. I am not sure how it works exactly atm though. I suspect the -5% will stack for over colonization, even on systems running "AR", but I will test it out and verify my findings this week if possible. Edit - it is "hatched from home" law that reduces penalties for running ancestral reverence on systems. I knew it mentioned it somewhere.
that +1 is actually +1.5 per pop bc of dictatorship, at 1:24:05 when upgrading the hero lvl. dictatorship increase the Governors output by +1.5x so - 1 = 1.5 3=4.5 exc.. this is the main reason this Race and Horatio are my favorites bc of the Dictorship factors of the hero is so important.
Happy to see you are back! I learned a ton from your videos when I first got ES2. Hissho are my favorite faction, so I wanted to point out a couple things (might edit, just on turn 8 watching now) First, because you used the mining probe on a planet that you also colonized right away, completing the colonization destroys the probe. Would it have been better to probe a different planet, or to hold off on colonizing until the probe refreshed? Second, You mention the southern system is not good enough to colonize, you know about Hissho outposts right? You can leave it as an outpost and it will still send back part of the fids and the strategic resources. (I prefer to play Hissho as a one city challenge type thing so I do this a lot) You can have a few fully colonized systems without a penalty. But you can also keep them as outposts to save your kei and get some resources
Thanks for the comments! I've been playing Hissho more this week and actually love the One City Challenge [OCC] gameplay. It kept me engaged enough to finish a game, which I haven't done in ES2 in years. The early probe in turns 1-30 don't make a big enough impact I think to worry about optimizing too much, although you're right when possible I shouldn't put it in then colonize. Remember each planet adds tons of extra bonuses so that's a generally better strategy just to colonize ASAP. The probes as you know become insane late game. I won with over 100k science/turn on my one system. Regarding the outpost, I think it's a good trick for getting resources (and also influence for unique planets, which can be good early game). The main tradeoff is food in your main system. Usually I'm not so resource starved that I want to slow down my population growth. Hissho mining and many other benefits scale with home system population, so getting that to maximum is key. Then using the sacrifices (especially manpower sacrifice) become very strong. Once you're there, I don't hate the idea of keeping some outposts up for mining, but once you're there, the mining probes are much better, IMO. Thanks for the comment!
When you play Hissho as only one city style, how do you handle healing and upgrading your fleets far away from your home system? Ori bots make repairing a non issue in very late game, but until then I find it very hard to upgrade or repair fleets without setting up a few colonies all over the map to act like depots for this
I appreciate the analytic style your share with your videos. Even better when they overlap with games of mutual interest. I hope you can enjoy ES even if it's not the best balanced of 4X games.
can you please make an updated guide for the races please? a bunch of mechanics have changed it looks like and no one on the internet is as good as you at this
Two notes; To see constalation info u need to zoom a bit out. To use the spaceport for Hissho you need to scroll down as theres too much info on the left bar.
Hey, glad to see you back! I picked up Supremacy and Penumbra rather recently, so learning the ins and outs of the races is nice, though I wish I could find better explanations of the other mechanics that come with those updates. Vaulters was far simpler to understand both in faction mechanics and extra game mechanics, but now that I have the others it's more of a problem.
Power of positive thinking. Binge watch your old content and you make a return with a new ES2 vid. What do you make of the hacking mechanic now that you tried it out for a few games?
I think it's a lot of fluff for not much real interaction. It can be powerful, particularly the ability to incite revolutionaries on the home world, but even then it's just kind of boring. A few clicks, wait for 20 turns, then make some pirates. I even had an opposing homeworld wiped out by those pirates once, but it all felt very unsatisfying. Like "where did their planet go? Oh, I guess it was those pirates that I never saw and will clear out when my armies finally make it there" From their hero abilities I gather that the Umbrals are big into hacking, which makes me less enthusiastic to try them. I think overall it's a miss as a mechanic and the game would be better without it. That's a first impression though.
@@4XAlchemist I have to echo that. It seems like busy work in a game where I already have a lot to pay attention to. Unfortunately there's no way to disable just the hacking mechanic so I had to disable the DLC as a whole. I am still interested to see how you pilot the UC.
@@4XAlchemist Your first impression is not wrong in my opinion. The UC are sorta interesting to play because they can use hacking more than any other faction, but otherwise hacking feels very tacked on, unintuitive, and pointless save the broken invasion trick for the other races, and even that is only useful when you are behind.
I feel you could use more raiding on the pirates or even on craver systems to build up your kei to 100 and expand faster. I normally, as soon as I get my quest with the 2 ships done, instantly change those ships and get some engine modules and even more manpower and start raiding colonies to gain resources to sell on the market, use and maintain kei up.
just quit my first blind game with these guys - explosive start in the beginning but then I slowly fell increasingly behind and I couldn't work out why. A friend told me these guys were a conquest faction because they don't have approval to lose from overcolonization... I guess he was joking.
It’s hard to follow because Amplitude keeps making massive changes to the game via patches that upends the whole game. They nerfed a lot of the Hisho from how it used to be (not to mention things like movement, game-wide). But Hisho can still expand a lot if you switch to federation gov and hire lots of heroes from the 2 ruling parties. You also can expand via level 4 upgrade and autonomous administration. Finally, the Hisho 25% FIDSI law helps offset the 5% per overcolonized quite a bit. Somebody posted a table and you can go quite a few colonies over threshold with this and basically break even. But you will need to keep an enemy handy to harvest for kei, as that law costs more kei every turn as you expand.
I tried this once while preparing for the guide and feel like you don't really need it. I enjoyed getting the extra Keii and free war declarations from my militarist law and being very aggressive in the midgame. I would do it in certain starting situations where you have a bunch of REALLY hard planets to colonize, but often times it's just 2-3 techs that you would normally be getting as you climb up the tech tree in science to unlock more curiosities and exploration anyway. Definitely a good trick and worth trying out though. Especially if you have huge lavas/toxics/barrens in home system it will be worth it. Because your home system's industry is so high, climbing up the sci tech tree to get terraforming to maximize home system population is one of my major midgame pushes, so I haven't found it too distracting to go there with my techs.
I like your guides.. But i have to say the clicking and clacking is putting me off, we dont need to hear your mouse and keyboard, otherwise good ideas around Hissho
I could not get this off the ground. I ended up with almost no Keii, negative gold and losing my ships constantly to the AI. I lost 6 ships to 3 pirate ships and it took me like 15 turns to build those ships. Just deleted my game and giving up on this race.
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You're by far the best endless space 2 content creator
Thank you so much =)
Happy that people enjoy watching me think through the game, and I love learning new things from players who have tidbits of wisdom that come in the comments.
I know you quit, but your guides help me on this game i just started playing. I really appreciate them, so thanks
Excited to see a new guide for Endless Space 2 after Humankind!
Side note: It looks like your channel home tab doesn't have anything on it 4X, that's a pretty high impact area for improvement.
I always blow my friends minds by using the strats that you show in these guides, thank you and keep it up!
Thank you! Glad to help!
Thank you for going back to Endless Space 2 content, it is good to see you back.
You can see constellations by zooming way out in normal view.
Also scavenged ramscoop is the most broken thing in the game, the +25% distance stacks, putting 3 of these on a carrier with a seeker hero makes the fleet zoom through a huge galaxy.
I've been experimenting with that. The Ramscoop is indeed ridiculous, thanks for calling it out. You don't need to have many extra movement points for the +25% to become better than the 6 movement big engine. I love the Sophon Seeker hero with the ramscoop
So glad you retuned man, all your guides/walkthroughs are amazing. Thanks for doing Hissho. Cheers.
Wow! So happy to see you back!!
Umbrail Choir guide next? =)
Agreed, just tried them out and it's fun
Hey man, I've just started playing this game and found your channel after being sorely disappointed by the lack of content being uploaded for this game in the past year and I've really enjoyed your videos! I do hope you continue to make content for ES 2 regardless of whether it's these 30 turn guides, fun challenges like the 1 city game or even more multiplayer games with your brother or other players I'm game for them all
Great to see you came back! Quick tip for knowing if some nodes are in or out of your constellation ( as in 1:05:15 )
If you zoom out, and mouse over your constellation name, you'll see that every node and starlink from the constellation will start to shimmer, letting you know if they give you the constellation control bonus or not.
Oh damn wasn't expecting this I missed these videos.
Holy shit!!! This is a surprise. Glad to see you back. Enjoyed The Empire Walkthrough. Would definitely like to see you play more games
Thankyou so much for this great explanation. I've always struggled with Hissho and didn't realize I was playing them COMPLETELY wrong, and playing again after watching this was like night and day :D
Ayy! I love the videos it's awesome seeing someone take so much time and thought through the game.
You have returned!! Please keep up with the guides!
@4X Alchemist : I am curious where you are getting your information on over colonization penalties for the Hissho. The tool tip you hovered over only mentions a penalty to the Kii cost of future colonies. It makes no mention of a 5% reduction to FIDSI and I cannot find that information anywhere else.
I am not saying it doesn't exist, but curious where you discovered this. Was it from over colonizing and seeing it identified on all your systems? Or does it mention this penalty somewhere else in the tool tips?
So I think I found it. According to the online wiki the -5% FIDS penalty is mentioned when you mouse over the "resource recoverer" faction trait. It applies to all systems you own ... And stacks -5% for each system you are above the cap.
I did not notice this in my previous playthrough and it is curious to me that it is not mentioned in the tool tip when you mouse over the over colonization cap. Mousing over the cap only mentions that Kii costs will increase higher and higher as you exceed the cap, but does not mention the -5% FIDS penalty.
On the plus side it does not seem to penalize Influence....so there is that. I will have to rethink my strategy with this faction now as I am pretty sure I had discovered a semi-exploit in one of my playthroughs where I could colonize systems for "free" without paying Kii. This lead me to consider a rapid expansionist strategy as if the only penalty for being above the cap was higher Kii costs and I wasn't paying Kii anyways...what did I care about the cap?!?!,...but that may not work as intended if there are indeed % penalties that stack up. I will have to experiment with it and see.
@@thenoseplays2488 Yes you found it. I think their intent with this really hard FIDSI penalty was to force HIssho to be "tall". They get the absolutely amazing mines, but have to give up dreams of major expansion.
I found a better explanation on an ES2 wiki, as the first time I played them I had no idea about it either.
@@4XAlchemist
I think this would make more sense if each system set to "Ancestral Reverence" was not counted against the over colonization cap. There is a tool tip somewhere that mentioned "AR" systems are not counted for something associated with a penalty, but I don't think it was in reference to over colonization penalties.
I am not sure how it works exactly atm though. I suspect the -5% will stack for over colonization, even on systems running "AR", but I will test it out and verify my findings this week if possible.
Edit - it is "hatched from home" law that reduces penalties for running ancestral reverence on systems. I knew it mentioned it somewhere.
that +1 is actually +1.5 per pop bc of dictatorship, at 1:24:05 when upgrading the hero lvl. dictatorship increase the Governors output by +1.5x so - 1 = 1.5 3=4.5 exc.. this is the main reason this Race and Horatio are my favorites bc of the Dictorship factors of the hero is so important.
Glad to see new Endless Space content, I found your channel when I started playing last month
Wow just recently got into the game and started watching your videos. What luck that you came back at the same time for new content!
You're back! Best ES2 content on UA-cam, hope you keep making more content, maybe updating your earlier guides?
So happy to have new video from you guys
Great to see you posting content again.
wow you are actually playing this game again. glad you back.
Happy to see you are back! I learned a ton from your videos when I first got ES2.
Hissho are my favorite faction, so I wanted to point out a couple things (might edit, just on turn 8 watching now)
First, because you used the mining probe on a planet that you also colonized right away, completing the colonization destroys the probe. Would it have been better to probe a different planet, or to hold off on colonizing until the probe refreshed?
Second, You mention the southern system is not good enough to colonize, you know about Hissho outposts right? You can leave it as an outpost and it will still send back part of the fids and the strategic resources. (I prefer to play Hissho as a one city challenge type thing so I do this a lot) You can have a few fully colonized systems without a penalty. But you can also keep them as outposts to save your kei and get some resources
Thanks for the comments! I've been playing Hissho more this week and actually love the One City Challenge [OCC] gameplay. It kept me engaged enough to finish a game, which I haven't done in ES2 in years.
The early probe in turns 1-30 don't make a big enough impact I think to worry about optimizing too much, although you're right when possible I shouldn't put it in then colonize. Remember each planet adds tons of extra bonuses so that's a generally better strategy just to colonize ASAP. The probes as you know become insane late game. I won with over 100k science/turn on my one system.
Regarding the outpost, I think it's a good trick for getting resources (and also influence for unique planets, which can be good early game). The main tradeoff is food in your main system. Usually I'm not so resource starved that I want to slow down my population growth. Hissho mining and many other benefits scale with home system population, so getting that to maximum is key. Then using the sacrifices (especially manpower sacrifice) become very strong. Once you're there, I don't hate the idea of keeping some outposts up for mining, but once you're there, the mining probes are much better, IMO.
Thanks for the comment!
When you play Hissho as only one city style, how do you handle healing and upgrading your fleets far away from your home system? Ori bots make repairing a non issue in very late game, but until then I find it very hard to upgrade or repair fleets without setting up a few colonies all over the map to act like depots for this
so happy to see you back bro!!!
I appreciate the analytic style your share with your videos. Even better when they overlap with games of mutual interest. I hope you can enjoy ES even if it's not the best balanced of 4X games.
Looking at this been 10 months ago and feeling like it's so recent in comparison to the other 4 year old 30 turn guides XD
its two years ago tho
Would be amazing to see this full playthrough, not just the first 30
can you please make an updated guide for the races please? a bunch of mechanics have changed it looks like and no one on the internet is as good as you at this
Two notes; To see constalation info u need to zoom a bit out. To use the spaceport for Hissho you need to scroll down as theres too much info on the left bar.
Hey, glad to see you back! I picked up Supremacy and Penumbra rather recently, so learning the ins and outs of the races is nice, though I wish I could find better explanations of the other mechanics that come with those updates. Vaulters was far simpler to understand both in faction mechanics and extra game mechanics, but now that I have the others it's more of a problem.
So nice to see this comeback just when I'm learning from your ES2 guides ! Do you plan on doing 30- + turns guides ?
Are you going to redo the old guides or are they still good enough?
HE HAS RISEN!
I was just thinking today how counterintuitive hishos are, maybe I’ll finally figure them out with this video
Yo man, miss your video series, hope all is well and when you find a new game or some good content you come back!!
heeey ! nice to see you back !
Is there any way to disable Awakening dlc?
gr8 to see your return with this expert guide could we also see a Nakalim and Umbral Choir too? I think you would have covered them all then
More Endless Space 2, keep it up!
OMG OMG OMG YOU GUYS ARE BACK
Have you considered doing a video on hissho with the esg mod?
Welcome back!
Omaigaaaaaaaaad thank God your back!
Power of positive thinking. Binge watch your old content and you make a return with a new ES2 vid. What do you make of the hacking mechanic now that you tried it out for a few games?
I think it's a lot of fluff for not much real interaction. It can be powerful, particularly the ability to incite revolutionaries on the home world, but even then it's just kind of boring. A few clicks, wait for 20 turns, then make some pirates. I even had an opposing homeworld wiped out by those pirates once, but it all felt very unsatisfying. Like "where did their planet go? Oh, I guess it was those pirates that I never saw and will clear out when my armies finally make it there"
From their hero abilities I gather that the Umbrals are big into hacking, which makes me less enthusiastic to try them. I think overall it's a miss as a mechanic and the game would be better without it. That's a first impression though.
@@4XAlchemist I have to echo that. It seems like busy work in a game where I already have a lot to pay attention to. Unfortunately there's no way to disable just the hacking mechanic so I had to disable the DLC as a whole. I am still interested to see how you pilot the UC.
@@4XAlchemist Your first impression is not wrong in my opinion. The UC are sorta interesting to play because they can use hacking more than any other faction, but otherwise hacking feels very tacked on, unintuitive, and pointless save the broken invasion trick for the other races, and even that is only useful when you are behind.
New player here, just started playing last week. Would be awesome if you could redo the older expert guides 1-30s in current patch.
He needed to scroll down to see the button where you choose which system to export your population to. I had that same issue
Followed your guide and its working out so far little behind in tech due to different circumstances but overall good guide thanks
Just started this game and I get so lost by turn 60. Can we get a playthrough. That would be sooo nice. Thanksssss
Time to update those old guides!
Keep on doing content guys
eyyy, we back :)
That's what i was searching for! I experiensed all fractions, even played this brainbreaking Umbral Choir, but still do not understand the Hissho...
the boys back in town
Holy moly. Not religious but thank god! God/gods bless bud
YES!!!!!! THX, MADE MY DAY :)
Nice! Thank you!
lol I had like 20 planets no idea
Where were you
Great work !! Please make a guide about dark matter DLC
Dark matter is bugged as hell and ruins the game. They should be issuing refunds to everyone who wanted their money.
I feel you could use more raiding on the pirates or even on craver systems to build up your kei to 100 and expand faster.
I normally, as soon as I get my quest with the 2 ships done, instantly change those ships and get some engine modules and even more manpower and start raiding colonies to gain resources to sell on the market, use and maintain kei up.
just quit my first blind game with these guys - explosive start in the beginning but then I slowly fell increasingly behind and I couldn't work out why. A friend told me these guys were a conquest faction because they don't have approval to lose from overcolonization... I guess he was joking.
It’s hard to follow because Amplitude keeps making massive changes to the game via patches that upends the whole game. They nerfed a lot of the Hisho from how it used to be (not to mention things like movement, game-wide). But Hisho can still expand a lot if you switch to federation gov and hire lots of heroes from the 2 ruling parties. You also can expand via level 4 upgrade and autonomous administration. Finally, the Hisho 25% FIDSI law helps offset the 5% per overcolonized quite a bit. Somebody posted a table and you can go quite a few colonies over threshold with this and basically break even. But you will need to keep an enemy handy to harvest for kei, as that law costs more kei every turn as you expand.
1:32:10 fix bayonets and grab rocks ass victory right there
Posts on reddit recommend Ecologist party on first election cycle, colonize all home system planets without tech requirement.
I tried this once while preparing for the guide and feel like you don't really need it. I enjoyed getting the extra Keii and free war declarations from my militarist law and being very aggressive in the midgame. I would do it in certain starting situations where you have a bunch of REALLY hard planets to colonize, but often times it's just 2-3 techs that you would normally be getting as you climb up the tech tree in science to unlock more curiosities and exploration anyway.
Definitely a good trick and worth trying out though. Especially if you have huge lavas/toxics/barrens in home system it will be worth it.
Because your home system's industry is so high, climbing up the sci tech tree to get terraforming to maximize home system population is one of my major midgame pushes, so I haven't found it too distracting to go there with my techs.
smart guys plays game for smart people. enjoyable.
nicee!
I like your guides.. But i have to say the clicking and clacking is putting me off, we dont need to hear your mouse and keyboard, otherwise good ideas around Hissho
I could not get this off the ground. I ended up with almost no Keii, negative gold and losing my ships constantly to the AI. I lost 6 ships to 3 pirate ships and it took me like 15 turns to build those ships. Just deleted my game and giving up on this race.