For the curious: Phong shading is a lighting technique where the lighting of a polygon is calculated so each pixel gets its own Normal. Simply, the transition from lit to shaded parts of a model are smoother and allow for more complex shapes with fewer polygons. The PS2 couldn't do this, and could only calculate Normals for each vertex, leading to those weird zigzag shadows.
I've played this when I was a kid and I didn't really know what I am doing but just knowing that it has Robots fighting with lasers and rockets is already a lot to me ahahaha I didn't even know what mechs are before.
Virtual-On Force was also available for the Xbox 360, of course Japan exclusive but the physical copy runs on western 360s with no problems. Technically speaking Virtual-On MARZ is also a sort of port of Force
The Second Virtual on the masterpiece collection is the Xbox version that got a major overhaul since it’s just the definitive & updated version of the dreamcast version. Also the Virtual On 4 Force also came out Xbox360 only to JPN Xbox Live.
How do I get it on my Series X? Do they also have a definitive version for the PS5? I love Virtua On so much, I'll buy it twice for the Trophies/Achievements. Addendum - I started playing Virtua On back when it first hit here in the states in the 1990's. I had/have it for my Sega Saturn and Dreamcast.
Jaguarandi from OMG is actually a penalty boss instead of a normal boss,you will always encounter it when your simulation battle section were over 5 mins,or else you will just skip into the space mode config cutscene
Oh really? That's crazy! I always take my time in these games so I guess that's why I always end up fighting him. He's a good battle too so would be a shame to miss him
I have played that A Certain Magical Index crossover game on PS Vita. Wasn't half bad, to be frank. The story mode at least is worth a playthrough, and it did have a kick-ass final boss. Get the PS4 version though, because the Vita version I played had some framerate issues during the busier battles. Also it's just a good idea to get it while it's still cheap on secondhand markets, because that game is no longer available for purchase on PSN (as far as I'm aware, maybe it's back?), likely due to license expiration.
Played OT on my xbox recently and theres actually a shocking amount of depth. You quickly think oh theres a left/right/center weapon lets go and root and shoot. But you quickly realise, oh theres L/R/C attacks and also DASH L/R/C, and jump L/R/C then theres also entire close range melee mechanics. Then theres the two turbo dash buttons when NOT used to dash power up your regular attacks. Then theres CROUCHING attacks used by holding block. Theres also jump cancelling to quickly auto aim the camera. Every trooper has over 30 unique attacks and it all gets out of hand very fast. Seitch Collection when please.
Played this a lot on xbla port(heck, up to the point where it was literally just me and like 5 japanese dudes that were probably extremely confused about the reoccuring random foreigner left playing it online) and yeah, it gets nuts and i love it exactly for that reason. particularly in terms of the insane movement options available with how pretty much everything can cancel into a dash, jump, etc
The Algorithm recommended this video to me. I'm a nerd, of course, so I already owned the collection + A Certain Magical Virtual On. Cool games. I was a big Virtual On game back in the Saturn days, and it was one of my most played games. If only I could track down one of those twin-stick controllers.
I hope you enjoyed the video and glad to see you have good taste in games :) Would you recommend checking out A Certain Magical or is it as bad as reviews suggest?
Oh dang this looks beautiful I used to play VOOT in the arcades about 20 years ago. Those twin sticks? Those were the stuff man. I believe it's the most realistic (though still arcade-y) mech control I will accept. If a peripheral for those exists for the modern consoles believe me you'd want to get it for the authentic experience; it completely transforms how you play the game. However, the home version of the twin sticks is reputedly more fragile than the arcade version and that's pretty concerning, given I had a friend who would wreck the arcade sticks every couple months.
I gotta say you're kinda selling me on those twinsticks! I never got chance to play this in arcades (not sure if we got it over here) but if I can find a PS4/PS5 version of them I might give it a look
@@DreamcastEnjoyer VOOT certainly went stateside since the machine I used to play was in English. Also please spend responsibly on your peripherals since I'm pretty sure twinsticks cost an arm and a leg (if not a kidney on top of that) nowadays
Really wish they'd release this on the Switch Used to play VO:OT competitively in the past during the arcade and DC days Edit/Add: I see you're struggling to aim. Jump and then crouch to do a 'quick jump', you'll immediately lock on to the opponent with no lag on landing.
Oratorio tangram is so much more than troopers. It has more combinations to make different skills and you have your ultimate moves and variations of attacks. It is just not new characters and not like the games you mentioned. The best experience of this is playing it on arcade on PVP. That's when you will reach it's potential and maximize the game and satisfaction!
Man, I wish I had the chance to play it in the arcades! My local one doesn't have it unfortunately, but it does have a decent number of Dreamcast-era Sega games so I'll suggest for them to get it!
@@DreamcastEnjoyer It was such a nice experience to be honest and I'm not surprised it was not available in your local because I cannot forget that time when I had so much break tine during college and I went to a local mall which this arcade was located and it was really early like the mall just opened and after getting to the arcade I saw V-on Oratorio is still not turned on so I asked the staff to open it and as the screen goes on I saw that text in the screen saying "for Japan only" and I was like whoah, why are they not sharing this beautiful game. As far as I know only 2 of it exist in our country and was just lucky I was able to play it even though I have to commute like around 1hr and a half just to play, lol.
@@DreamcastEnjoyer I recently downloaded it again in my laptop for me and my brother to play. We downloded it before and played till we drop and years passed and we downloaded it again! Haha. Too bad we don't have those twin sticks controller like in the arcade so we play it on keyboard.
Damn. Was a big fan of Virtual On on the Saturn growing up. That's wild they made more past Force. They don't look good, mind you, but still. Cool video. Good vibes.
Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That's awesome too that you used to play this. Arcade machines in the cinema were such a 90s thing, but it was cool - you don't see that anymore over here
A few things I would say from my own experience with all three games: -VOOM is still charming even if limited compared to the second entry, and I remember playing the Windows port a lot. Always thought it was confusing that version did not have Jaguarandi unlockable like the Saturn and PS2 version did though, that aside it was almost arcade-perfect with a patch to run it at 60fps. -VOOT definitely was the one I started playing a lot when I could emulate the Dreamcast, and I even remember getting my brother and friends to play it with me a handful of times. The Xbox 360 might be the best version with content, controls and fidelity...but I'm annoyed that the DC version is the *only one with split-screen*. Doesn't make sense that the XBLA/PS3 and this port didn't include that when the DREAMCAST could offer that. That aside, it felt to me like a souped up VOOM, same way as you could compare Smash 64 to Melee when speed and refinement is talked about. -Force is definitely the one that has me most conflicted from the two times I was able to play it: The lock-on dash attacks having a delay which makes hitting them harder as your mech shoots a bit after the lock-on is done...so instead of feeling snappy for me to try dash/jumping and attacking, it instead feels like I miss a lot for no reason while the AI still can hit me a lot. Couldn't finish the first Arcade mode run I did as I accidentally, in a frustrated moment, hit the A button on No on the continue screen when stuck on a fight. That aside, the version I played was the also Japan-exclusive Xbox 360 port, and at least the game still looks pretty nice AND has split-screen. That's all folks; stumbled upon your channel from the Phantasy Star Offline video but I had to sub ASAP when I saw this and other videos on your channel :)
I just wanted to say that I love the content and I hope you keep it up. I found you through your "The Cozy Vibes of Sonic Adventure" and have watched ever since. Your candid approach to these commentaries brings with it this sense of sincerity and relatability that is often missing from bigger channels who cover similar topics. You somehow make me feel nostalgic towards games I have never played, which is quite the feat. So yeah -- love the stuff. Unrelated to any of this, but have you heard of / played "Burning Rangers." I know you're the /Dreamcast/ Enjoyer, not the /Saturn/ Enjoyer, but I thought it was worth asking anyways.
Thank you so much - that is a genuinely lovely comment and I'm very glad you like the channel! In regards to Burning Rangers, I absolutely love it! I did actually do a short video on it (excuse the poor sound quality, it's one of my early ones - will revisit in the future) - ua-cam.com/video/q3a4fux95_I/v-deo.html
Never heard of this collection either. Do have Virtual On PAL for Saturn and part 2 on Dreamcast NTSC-U with the Twin Sticks. There are a few recent indie releases that use the controller as well.
That's awesome that you actually have the twinsticks. I had no idea until recently that some indies like Xeno Crisis are still actually using that - very cool
I want to play Virtual on with you. I haven't played this game for about 18 to 19 years, I have the Sega Dreamcast Tianjin game. I miss it so much, it was the last game that I played before I stopped playing games for a very long time. There are also crazy unknown things you can do with characters like Raiden, in which he loses all his armor and a lot of his health but becomes a super agile character. Pretty cool! I hope this franchise comes back one day.
I'm so glad to see it getting some love - I thought it was only me that loved these games! Haha. Sadly I've still never worked out how to get online - I assume I'd need to use a VPN and set my location to Japan maybe
@@DreamcastEnjoyer I pray they bring this game back. I can only imagine how great the game would be. Thanks again and please keep making these great videos and I appreciate your response. 🙏📣
9:40 this you?! I played one of those on the Saturn, pretty cool but it was after ZOE... Needless to say that all it did is make me want to play ZOE instead
@@DreamcastEnjoyerso you haven't owned a xbox one and series x/s after the red ring of death fiasco,? And to be honest I really wish that I chose a ps4 instead of the xbox one at the time because it had way more games to choose from over the xbox one and same with the ps5 as well but I still like xbox as well
Bro this game just sparked a memory of a Japanese MOBA title with a wide range of characters fighting in shibuya, do you have any idea what this games name could be? I can’t remember. One particular character was this girl with pink hair and pigtails
Sorry dude I'm not sure what that could be, but it sounds awesome! When I was over in Japan I played something like that in an arcade but I can't be sure on the name - pretty sure it was some sort of Onee Chanbara spin-off
@@DreamcastEnjoyer Appreciate the thought/time but it’s not her, it is an japanese arcade game though. And after further research, the girl more so resembles Ulala from SpaceChannel 5
force is the worst in the series, its slow as molasses and the AI is very cheep and will always jump if you shoot it and be annoying and it cannot tell if you are in the air or on the ground so if you jump and than fly forward and shoot it will jump up to evade your shot, only your shot is in the air and it hits it straight in the face, also marz is not a bad port, its missing a few of the characters but it makes up for it for a very long campaign mode that fleshes out the game world and has tons of replay value.
I did enjoy Force but I respect it's each to their own. Nice to hear some positive things about Marz too as I am keen to give it a spin - that campaign mode sounds cool... I always felt like Virtual On needed one of those
For the curious: Phong shading is a lighting technique where the lighting of a polygon is calculated so each pixel gets its own Normal. Simply, the transition from lit to shaded parts of a model are smoother and allow for more complex shapes with fewer polygons. The PS2 couldn't do this, and could only calculate Normals for each vertex, leading to those weird zigzag shadows.
Thanks! I've heard it explained before but the way you said it actually makes sense 😊
My favorite arcade game! I wish they continue this and make it's visual very pleasing. It really is a masterpiece of a game!!❤
I've played this when I was a kid and I didn't really know what I am doing but just knowing that it has Robots fighting with lasers and rockets is already a lot to me ahahaha I didn't even know what mechs are before.
Virtual-On Force was also available for the Xbox 360, of course Japan exclusive but the physical copy runs on western 360s with no problems.
Technically speaking Virtual-On MARZ is also a sort of port of Force
Wished they include MARZ in the masterpiece collection as well but at this point I'm just glad they still know this franchise exist
The Second Virtual on the masterpiece collection is the Xbox version that got a major overhaul since it’s just the definitive & updated version of the dreamcast version. Also the Virtual On 4 Force also came out Xbox360 only to JPN Xbox Live.
I agree, it's an absolute banger! I didn't realise it came to X-Box though, that's cool
How do I get it on my Series X? Do they also have a definitive version for the PS5? I love Virtua On so much, I'll buy it twice for the Trophies/Achievements.
Addendum - I started playing Virtua On back when it first hit here in the states in the 1990's. I had/have it for my Sega Saturn and Dreamcast.
I remember playing the arcade version when I was in elementary school.. it was fun with the twin stick controller...
Jaguarandi from OMG is actually a penalty boss instead of a normal boss,you will always encounter it when your simulation battle section were over 5 mins,or else you will just skip into the space mode config cutscene
Oh really? That's crazy!
I always take my time in these games so I guess that's why I always end up fighting him. He's a good battle too so would be a shame to miss him
I have played that A Certain Magical Index crossover game on PS Vita. Wasn't half bad, to be frank. The story mode at least is worth a playthrough, and it did have a kick-ass final boss. Get the PS4 version though, because the Vita version I played had some framerate issues during the busier battles. Also it's just a good idea to get it while it's still cheap on secondhand markets, because that game is no longer available for purchase on PSN (as far as I'm aware, maybe it's back?), likely due to license expiration.
I'm definitely interested so it's nice to hear a positive take on it! I'm gonna get hold of it soon I think
I played the arcade game from 97 to 99. It was so much fun.
Played this as a mini game in Yakuza and was gutted to see how difficult it is to just actually play.
I didn't realise it was in Yakuza - that's pretty cool
Same i played the game from a arcade in yakuza kiwami 2 and the game is shit hard 💀
Played OT on my xbox recently and theres actually a shocking amount of depth. You quickly think oh theres a left/right/center weapon lets go and root and shoot.
But you quickly realise, oh theres L/R/C attacks and also DASH L/R/C, and jump L/R/C then theres also entire close range melee mechanics. Then theres the two turbo dash buttons when NOT used to dash power up your regular attacks.
Then theres CROUCHING attacks used by holding block. Theres also jump cancelling to quickly auto aim the camera. Every trooper has over 30 unique attacks and it all gets out of hand very fast.
Seitch Collection when please.
Played this a lot on xbla port(heck, up to the point where it was literally just me and like 5 japanese dudes that were probably extremely confused about the reoccuring random foreigner left playing it online) and yeah, it gets nuts and i love it exactly for that reason. particularly in terms of the insane movement options available with how pretty much everything can cancel into a dash, jump, etc
That's a weird coincidence. Almost recently (about a day or two ago) I refreshed my memory on an arcade game I used to watch my classmates playing.
I only knew the ones in the arcade! I didn't know there was a story/campaign mode! I didn't knew this is a game on a console!
The Algorithm recommended this video to me.
I'm a nerd, of course, so I already owned the collection + A Certain Magical Virtual On. Cool games. I was a big Virtual On game back in the Saturn days, and it was one of my most played games. If only I could track down one of those twin-stick controllers.
I hope you enjoyed the video and glad to see you have good taste in games :)
Would you recommend checking out A Certain Magical or is it as bad as reviews suggest?
Oh dang this looks beautiful
I used to play VOOT in the arcades about 20 years ago. Those twin sticks? Those were the stuff man. I believe it's the most realistic (though still arcade-y) mech control I will accept. If a peripheral for those exists for the modern consoles believe me you'd want to get it for the authentic experience; it completely transforms how you play the game. However, the home version of the twin sticks is reputedly more fragile than the arcade version and that's pretty concerning, given I had a friend who would wreck the arcade sticks every couple months.
I gotta say you're kinda selling me on those twinsticks!
I never got chance to play this in arcades (not sure if we got it over here) but if I can find a PS4/PS5 version of them I might give it a look
@@DreamcastEnjoyer VOOT certainly went stateside since the machine I used to play was in English.
Also please spend responsibly on your peripherals since I'm pretty sure twinsticks cost an arm and a leg (if not a kidney on top of that) nowadays
Really wish they'd release this on the Switch
Used to play VO:OT competitively in the past during the arcade and DC days
Edit/Add: I see you're struggling to aim. Jump and then crouch to do a 'quick jump', you'll immediately lock on to the opponent with no lag on landing.
Ahhhh good tip, thank you! I'm not very competitive with these types of games so it's nice to learn strats like that :)
Oratorio tangram is so much more than troopers. It has more combinations to make different skills and you have your ultimate moves and variations of attacks. It is just not new characters and not like the games you mentioned. The best experience of this is playing it on arcade on PVP. That's when you will reach it's potential and maximize the game and satisfaction!
Man, I wish I had the chance to play it in the arcades!
My local one doesn't have it unfortunately, but it does have a decent number of Dreamcast-era Sega games so I'll suggest for them to get it!
@@DreamcastEnjoyer It was such a nice experience to be honest and I'm not surprised it was not available in your local because I cannot forget that time when I had so much break tine during college and I went to a local mall which this arcade was located and it was really early like the mall just opened and after getting to the arcade I saw V-on Oratorio is still not turned on so I asked the staff to open it and as the screen goes on I saw that text in the screen saying "for Japan only" and I was like whoah, why are they not sharing this beautiful game. As far as I know only 2 of it exist in our country and was just lucky I was able to play it even though I have to commute like around 1hr and a half just to play, lol.
@@DreamcastEnjoyer I recently downloaded it again in my laptop for me and my brother to play. We downloded it before and played till we drop and years passed and we downloaded it again! Haha. Too bad we don't have those twin sticks controller like in the arcade so we play it on keyboard.
Enjoyed these games back in the day. Love hearing Policenaughts get a drop as well. Great on the Saturn 🪐
Policenauts had such a nice aesthetic and sound design. Proper treat for the senses 😊
Damn. Was a big fan of Virtual On on the Saturn growing up. That's wild they made more past Force. They don't look good, mind you, but still. Cool video. Good vibes.
WTF I love this game. I have virtual on port for ps2, im bad at it, but love to play it. Designs are AMAZING
I love the mech designs too. Nice to hear some praise for the PS2 port too as I'm gonna check it out soon 😊
@@DreamcastEnjoyer Sega Ages series was pretty good on ps2.
Nice video!! When i was a kid I used to play A LOT of virtual in a arcade machine that was in a few cinemas in South America
Thank you - I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That's awesome too that you used to play this. Arcade machines in the cinema were such a 90s thing, but it was cool - you don't see that anymore over here
A few things I would say from my own experience with all three games:
-VOOM is still charming even if limited compared to the second entry, and I remember playing the Windows port a lot. Always thought it was confusing that version did not have Jaguarandi unlockable like the Saturn and PS2 version did though, that aside it was almost arcade-perfect with a patch to run it at 60fps.
-VOOT definitely was the one I started playing a lot when I could emulate the Dreamcast, and I even remember getting my brother and friends to play it with me a handful of times. The Xbox 360 might be the best version with content, controls and fidelity...but I'm annoyed that the DC version is the *only one with split-screen*. Doesn't make sense that the XBLA/PS3 and this port didn't include that when the DREAMCAST could offer that. That aside, it felt to me like a souped up VOOM, same way as you could compare Smash 64 to Melee when speed and refinement is talked about.
-Force is definitely the one that has me most conflicted from the two times I was able to play it: The lock-on dash attacks having a delay which makes hitting them harder as your mech shoots a bit after the lock-on is done...so instead of feeling snappy for me to try dash/jumping and attacking, it instead feels like I miss a lot for no reason while the AI still can hit me a lot. Couldn't finish the first Arcade mode run I did as I accidentally, in a frustrated moment, hit the A button on No on the continue screen when stuck on a fight. That aside, the version I played was the also Japan-exclusive Xbox 360 port, and at least the game still looks pretty nice AND has split-screen.
That's all folks; stumbled upon your channel from the Phantasy Star Offline video but I had to sub ASAP when I saw this and other videos on your channel :)
I loved this game
I just wanted to say that I love the content and I hope you keep it up. I found you through your "The Cozy Vibes of Sonic Adventure" and have watched ever since. Your candid approach to these commentaries brings with it this sense of sincerity and relatability that is often missing from bigger channels who cover similar topics. You somehow make me feel nostalgic towards games I have never played, which is quite the feat. So yeah -- love the stuff. Unrelated to any of this, but have you heard of / played "Burning Rangers." I know you're the /Dreamcast/ Enjoyer, not the /Saturn/ Enjoyer, but I thought it was worth asking anyways.
Thank you so much - that is a genuinely lovely comment and I'm very glad you like the channel!
In regards to Burning Rangers, I absolutely love it! I did actually do a short video on it (excuse the poor sound quality, it's one of my early ones - will revisit in the future) - ua-cam.com/video/q3a4fux95_I/v-deo.html
Never heard of this collection either. Do have Virtual On PAL for Saturn and part 2 on Dreamcast NTSC-U with the Twin Sticks. There are a few recent indie releases that use the controller as well.
That's awesome that you actually have the twinsticks. I had no idea until recently that some indies like Xeno Crisis are still actually using that - very cool
Never tried Virtua-On, but these games look great!
They're good fun - I'd definitely recommend if you like Armored Core etc :)
I want to play Virtual on with you. I haven't played this game for about 18 to 19 years, I have the Sega Dreamcast Tianjin game. I miss it so much, it was the last game that I played before I stopped playing games for a very long time. There are also crazy unknown things you can do with characters like Raiden, in which he loses all his armor and a lot of his health but becomes a super agile character. Pretty cool! I hope this franchise comes back one day.
I'm so glad to see it getting some love - I thought it was only me that loved these games! Haha. Sadly I've still never worked out how to get online - I assume I'd need to use a VPN and set my location to Japan maybe
@@DreamcastEnjoyer I pray they bring this game back. I can only imagine how great the game would be. Thanks again and please keep making these great videos and I appreciate your response. 🙏📣
9:40 this you?!
I played one of those on the Saturn, pretty cool but it was after ZOE... Needless to say that all it did is make me want to play ZOE instead
That's me :)
Yea ZoE is amazing- I'm currently playing through 2nd Runner MARS and it slaps hard
I had a Saturn and I remember Virtual On, Virtual Cop and Virtual Fighter. All amazing for their time
All incredible games :)
these look like the arcade versions
I think you're probably right - they are very polished and clean-looking
Virtual on force was also on the xbox 360 again japan only but it's regian free 🙂👍
Ooooo I didn't know that! I did have a 360 for about a month then it broke and I gave up haha
@@DreamcastEnjoyer red ring of death? Lol
@GAZZ707 that's exactly what it was! Haha. I only ever bought PlayStation stuff after that
@@DreamcastEnjoyerso you haven't owned a xbox one and series x/s after the red ring of death fiasco,? And to be honest I really wish that I chose a ps4 instead of the xbox one at the time because it had way more games to choose from over the xbox one and same with the ps5 as well but I still like xbox as well
i am still waiting for a english release for that bundle. I hope they port it for PS5
I hope so too! You can still get it on the Japanese PSN Store though even with PS5 - that's how I'm currently playing it 😊
If I understand correctly, you can't play the game online if you live in Europe?!
Not without a VPN, I don't think. I didn't try very hard to get it going, I was happy playing offline
Is that Astral Chain background music?
Well spotted! Yea, Astral Chain has one of my favourite soundtracks
@@DreamcastEnjoyer Thank you for covering this btw.
It's nice to see the ps4 still has something to justify its purchase.
Bro this game just sparked a memory of a Japanese MOBA title with a wide range of characters fighting in shibuya, do you have any idea what this games name could be? I can’t remember. One particular character was this girl with pink hair and pigtails
Sorry dude I'm not sure what that could be, but it sounds awesome!
When I was over in Japan I played something like that in an arcade but I can't be sure on the name - pretty sure it was some sort of Onee Chanbara spin-off
@@DreamcastEnjoyer Appreciate the thought/time but it’s not her, it is an japanese arcade game though. And after further research, the girl more so resembles Ulala from SpaceChannel 5
This series and the Gundam VS series are the only good arena fighters
You might be right. I liked the Renpou vs Zeon one we got on Dreamcast for sure
force is the worst in the series, its slow as molasses and the AI is very cheep and will always jump if you shoot it and be annoying and it cannot tell if you are in the air or on the ground so if you jump and than fly forward and shoot it will jump up to evade your shot, only your shot is in the air and it hits it straight in the face, also marz is not a bad port, its missing a few of the characters but it makes up for it for a very long campaign mode that fleshes out the game world and has tons of replay value.
I did enjoy Force but I respect it's each to their own. Nice to hear some positive things about Marz too as I am keen to give it a spin - that campaign mode sounds cool... I always felt like Virtual On needed one of those