This is an age old trick. I was adding sometimes a piano with the low end to fill the gap in the low mids that overlap between the bass and guitar, which usually are taken out with an eq. Something like in the song "Paradise" by Bleed From Within. You can get insanely massive tones by enhancing the bass midrange.
Yeah, Slipknot uses this piano trick in Before i Forget (especially bridge park). Distorted piano root notes as a "baritone" layer between guitars and bass works really well. I even made a preset called "Rubin Piano" and use it quite often.
Awesome vide, mate. Loving your sound too. You're absolutely spot on about how much of a role arrangement and sonic choices play in getting that massive sound.
This is fantastic! I don't really listen to this type of music but I'm going to listen to this all day tomorrow! Also, gold standard mixing and production!
best switch to my production workflow was writing out entire tracks in piano before i ever touched anything like sound design or layering or even drums. focus purely on the melody and harmonies and how they mix and what they make you feel. and then everything else just has to support that
I always forget about Vitamin. It’s a really great plug to focus instruments with really complex frequencies, especially sub bass. Great, clean mix man.
Watching the "SYNTHS" meter dance at 14:37 was so entertaining 😂. It was having so much fun jamming! Great sound and great video. Will look yall up on Spotify!
No, they aren’t. He consolidated them into a single stereo track, but they are double tracked and panned L & R. It makes no sense to track electric guitars in stereo since they don’t offer any stereo information. You might see acoustic guitars (or other acoustic instruments) being recorded in stereo, but that’s different because you’re purposely micing it in stereo (for example, AB, XY, M/S, etc) to get a fuller sound. However, just because you can doesn’t mean you should since adding such recordings to a dense song may cause masking issues during mixing. You’d typically use stereo instruments to fill up a space, which is what he did with synths.
Just to complement what everyone else said, the reason why you just don't record stereo is because the info will still be mono, so both channels will sound exactly the same. That's why you double it, became there will always be a difference between one take (mono, R) and the other take (mono, L), offering a rich "true" stereo feeling.
Don’t even think about that. They are 2 different things. Also, unless you have hundreds of thousands of fans, there’s a good chance most of your live audiences have never even heard your recordings! Just make the best record you can, then do the best cover of it you can when playing live :)
@@dshredmusicno you don't need linear phase. Do you think anything was ever in phase with anything else there? We're talking about guitars (their phase is pretty random already given the double tracked real performance) and saw stacks (probably the most "phase-less" think you'll ever see) plus other pretty diverse sounds like the wind chimes. You might want linear phase EQ when layering two kicks that should stay aligned. But these details don't matter at all in 99% of cases. Take the easy route first (normal EQ) and only when you notice "wow it suddenly sounds so bad when I use the EQ" you could try linear phase.
i love how youre like i added upper harmonics to the symnth bass because i wants ed it to be heard when actually you just wanted a wall of sound and also the guitars and that sawtooth wave synth is doing job was to occupy those ranges. i think youre just parroting stuff from someone but you dont actually really understand whats going on.
Maybe I am real old school , BUT, why do so many people mix the vocals so far back in the mix. I can hear the snare drum louder the the vocals ??????????????
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Jaw dropping mix, my brother. Drums sound massive as well. As well as everything else. If you don't have a full mix breakdown on this, you need it.
This was amazing ! I would love to see how the vocals was mixed on this, they sound awesome!
This is an age old trick. I was adding sometimes a piano with the low end to fill the gap in the low mids that overlap between the bass and guitar, which usually are taken out with an eq. Something like in the song "Paradise" by Bleed From Within. You can get insanely massive tones by enhancing the bass midrange.
Yeah, Slipknot uses this piano trick in Before i Forget (especially bridge park). Distorted piano root notes as a "baritone" layer between guitars and bass works really well. I even made a preset called "Rubin Piano" and use it quite often.
Awesome vide, mate. Loving your sound too. You're absolutely spot on about how much of a role arrangement and sonic choices play in getting that massive sound.
That synth bass takes me back to Commodore 64 days! 😁
This is fantastic! I don't really listen to this type of music but I'm going to listen to this all day tomorrow! Also, gold standard mixing and production!
I layer to layer. I need to write the songs first, i try to make it sound cool before it’s done😂 this was great info
best switch to my production workflow was writing out entire tracks in piano before i ever touched anything like sound design or layering or even drums. focus purely on the melody and harmonies and how they mix and what they make you feel. and then everything else just has to support that
The song itself is the most important part!
I do the same exact thing! That's how you come up with the best ideas sometimes, though. It's all about what you do with the idea. 👍
I always forget about Vitamin. It’s a really great plug to focus instruments with really complex frequencies, especially sub bass. Great, clean mix man.
awesome! as expected… it is always mastering the fundamentals what gives you leeway to more interesting stuff… RJ is always killing it!!🔥
I love it. Good content. No click-bait. That's WHY I clicked. Thank you.
Nice combination of pop and rock production techniques! I really like the low guitar tone - how was it recorded? Cheers!
Watching the "SYNTHS" meter dance at 14:37 was so entertaining 😂. It was having so much fun jamming! Great sound and great video. Will look yall up on Spotify!
This is the best guitar layering video I’ve ever seen
Dope song bro!!!! You killed that. LOVE the vocals
very awesome song and sounds killer!! good job RJ
Such a good song!
Badass concept and great tune
That sounds killer🤘🤘
well done stuff, beautiful
Adding that wind chime effect is crazy
very insightful - thank you
Very clever.
That is awesome you did this with your student.
Forgive my ignorance, are rhythm guitars generally recorded in stereo?
its common
Doubled usually. Play it once, pan left, play it again, pan right.
@@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn thats usually what i do. Leave a lot of room for leads and vocals in the middle i find
No, they aren’t.
He consolidated them into a single stereo track, but they are double tracked and panned L & R. It makes no sense to track electric guitars in stereo since they don’t offer any stereo information.
You might see acoustic guitars (or other acoustic instruments) being recorded in stereo, but that’s different because you’re purposely micing it in stereo (for example, AB, XY, M/S, etc) to get a fuller sound. However, just because you can doesn’t mean you should since adding such recordings to a dense song may cause masking issues during mixing. You’d typically use stereo instruments to fill up a space, which is what he did with synths.
Just to complement what everyone else said, the reason why you just don't record stereo is because the info will still be mono, so both channels will sound exactly the same. That's why you double it, became there will always be a difference between one take (mono, R) and the other take (mono, L), offering a rich "true" stereo feeling.
What's your opinion on live reproducibility? How far a band can deviate from things that can be performed live?
Don’t even think about that. They are 2 different things. Also, unless you have hundreds of thousands of fans, there’s a good chance most of your live audiences have never even heard your recordings! Just make the best record you can, then do the best cover of it you can when playing live :)
Insaaaane stuff! Holy hell!
That's the kind of fruit you reap out of stepping away from the ordinary.
Question... Were the EQ's set to linear phase, given the layering? Or no? And why.
Please and thanks! :D
stepping away from the ordinary, everybody does this and has been for the last twenty years, this is so generic
@@dshredmusicno you don't need linear phase. Do you think anything was ever in phase with anything else there? We're talking about guitars (their phase is pretty random already given the double tracked real performance) and saw stacks (probably the most "phase-less" think you'll ever see) plus other pretty diverse sounds like the wind chimes.
You might want linear phase EQ when layering two kicks that should stay aligned. But these details don't matter at all in 99% of cases. Take the easy route first (normal EQ) and only when you notice "wow it suddenly sounds so bad when I use the EQ" you could try linear phase.
So cool sound 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you
i love how youre like i added upper harmonics to the symnth bass because i wants ed it to be heard when actually you just wanted a wall of sound and also the guitars and that sawtooth wave synth is doing job was to occupy those ranges. i think youre just parroting stuff from someone but you dont actually really understand whats going on.
cool video. nice stuff
Maybe I am real old school , BUT, why do so many people mix the vocals so far back in the mix. I can hear the snare drum louder the the vocals ??????????????
Good Job 👍
that's HUGE!
notice how the base guitar sound is thick and chunky as fuck. not completely f***** by eq. just a raw, powerful sound, good from the getgo.
Probably because it’s not actually a bass 😂
Top content as always! Will be giving this a blast tonight :)
Thanks now I can make stuff that sounds like Porter’s album Smile
good luck playing that live
very valuable content
fernway ?
Cool tricks but his guitars are like 6db louder then the rest of the mix. Of course, he's the guitarist...
"like most pop music these days" over compressed with generic sounds and even more generic lyrics
Feel free to go make your own groundbreaking unique never heard before earth moving masterpiece.
I get the it about the generic sounds and lyrics but this kind of compression has merit.
Ah yes, the world needed another song with a I - V - vi -IV progression. 🙄
you can always invent new notes and make new chords out of them :)
I’m so sick of rock songs with kicks and snares too