I really appreciate that you pan your drums from the drummers perspective. People who aren't drummers don't usually care, but those who are find it jarring when its not.
@@christofferb435 audience hear the drums from a distance, there's almost zero stereo spread there and everything except venue reverb is coming from the phantom center from the PA. No one from the audience is hearing drums standing one meter in front of them. That's why panning drummer's perspective makes more sense as the drummer is behind the kit and is hearing a wide stereo spread of each element of the drum kit
I prefer drummers perspective too. I like it because fills go "forward" from left to right like when one's reading text. I'm not sure if that makes any sense but that's my way of thinking it. I'm also a noob drummer so air drumming feels more right with drummers perspective. :D
Super helpful approach to mixing. Thanks. Do you have any recommendations for heat alternatives for those of us not on pro tools? Something like sonimus maybe or slate or just skip?
Really interesting content and a great video. In this genre of music I would personally expect a bit less punchy and scooped drums but that's of course a matter of taste and it seems the drummer is actually playing pretty loud.
Hi Jordan. Love your videos and the drum mixing workshop was great. Thanks for the excellent content you provide. What are the sample rates and bit rates you work with?
Tape saturation plugings tend be too aggressive if the input is around zero imo. Waves kramer tape has this nice mild saturation and compression going on when you put input to -18 and output to +18 if I remember those numbers correctly. Waves Abbeyroad tape works pretty much the same but there's way more variables to deal with. I'm pretty sure there's a reason why they link input and output volume. :D
It's funny, I can definitely hear your hard rock mixing chops in play. In my opinion, it feels very compressed for a chill lounge cover, other than that the balance and eq decisions sound good; compressed just a bit too much IMHO.
How can the Waves SSL E Channel be hated so much on audio forums? I think it sounds pretty good here. I try to like the BX SSL E Channel (praised so much on every audio forum ever) and I really can't. I ended up uninstalling it after a few days.
Digital eq is digital eq. Just different gui’s and slight almost imperciveable harmonics if not pushed hard. The compressors may sound a bit different though
I like both for different things but Waves have the controls down pat for sure. I always have to hold shift with the bx version cause it's way too fiddly. The comp is truer to life on the W version too. The bx rocks on guitars though.
@@JoeyFTL I have the Waves SSL, new SSL, CLA SSL, Bx SSL and the official SSL plugin, lmao. I actually probably use all 4 of them except the Bx one depending on what I'm looking for, largely CPU usage or the project
Well done. Thank you for your time and effort. Please, mixing start with static mix at least. People don't know how to properly balance their tracks. So by skipping that step, newbies get confused on what to focus on. Don't get me wrong, what you're sharing is valuable. Therefore, it creates that illusion that Eq, compression and other fun stuff are more important, that is what content about mixng tend to focus on.
I really appreciate that you pan your drums from the drummers perspective. People who aren't drummers don't usually care, but those who are find it jarring when its not.
I'm left-handed drummer but I always pan the hihat to the left and toms from left to right in all mixes. Just sounds right to me
I'm not a drummer and that's why audience perspective makes more sense to me.
I'm not a drummer
But I'm used to having one behind me, so audience perspective hurts my brain
@@christofferb435 audience hear the drums from a distance, there's almost zero stereo spread there and everything except venue reverb is coming from the phantom center from the PA. No one from the audience is hearing drums standing one meter in front of them. That's why panning drummer's perspective makes more sense as the drummer is behind the kit and is hearing a wide stereo spread of each element of the drum kit
I prefer drummers perspective too. I like it because fills go "forward" from left to right like when one's reading text. I'm not sure if that makes any sense but that's my way of thinking it. I'm also a noob drummer so air drumming feels more right with drummers perspective. :D
This is one of my favorite covers ever. Great mix! Thanks for sharing it with us. ❤
Loving this style of content. So much appreciated
Sublime & beautifully chill
i just love watching these videos of yours, this just helps me with the thinking that goes behind a record!
That is a killer version and the mix is amazing. Great ears
I listened to it on Spotify, it turned out really cool, and the track is awesome.
The transient you're working on smoothing in the background vox around 35:45 is known as a glottal stop. Good stuff, Jordan!
Gosh Emery? It's like a double-throwback
I was thinking the same thing, I'm back in middle school haha
Feels kind of like a Dear Hunter rendition of Everlong.
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate your work and wisdom.
Super helpful approach to mixing. Thanks. Do you have any recommendations for heat alternatives for those of us not on pro tools? Something like sonimus maybe or slate or just skip?
this cover they did was really good! and the mix to ;)
Sounds killer, man!
Love Emery! Solid band!
excited to see Slate's VTM plugin and Phoenix 2 getting some space on the mix! Two of my all time favorite plugins!!!
That LA3A on guitars made them sound pro! Gonna try it on those type of guitars. 🤙
Very excited to see this one! ❤
This is super informative, thanks Jordan!
Really interesting content and a great video. In this genre of music I would personally expect a bit less punchy and scooped drums but that's of course a matter of taste and it seems the drummer is actually playing pretty loud.
Hi Jordan. Love your videos and the drum mixing workshop was great. Thanks for the excellent content you provide. What are the sample rates and bit rates you work with?
Grab your free Mixing Cheatsheet to learn the go-to starting points for EQ and compression in heavy mixes: hardcoremusicstudio.com/mixcheatsheet
maybe pin?
Fantastic video, thankyou.
Tape saturation plugings tend be too aggressive if the input is around zero imo. Waves kramer tape has this nice mild saturation and compression going on when you put input to -18 and output to +18 if I remember those numbers correctly. Waves Abbeyroad tape works pretty much the same but there's way more variables to deal with. I'm pretty sure there's a reason why they link input and output volume. :D
Cool video! snare and kick samples are Alessis D4, right?
It's funny, I can definitely hear your hard rock mixing chops in play. In my opinion, it feels very compressed for a chill lounge cover, other than that the balance and eq decisions sound good; compressed just a bit too much IMHO.
Yea doesnt feel that chill and mellow like he said he went for
This is so good!
Thank you, very interesting and useful!🤘🤘🤘
Amazing!!
Nice performance
I would LOVE to mix this. Id be happy to pay for the multitracks. Any chance?
Subtle is the key.
How can the Waves SSL E Channel be hated so much on audio forums? I think it sounds pretty good here. I try to like the BX SSL E Channel (praised so much on every audio forum ever) and I really can't. I ended up uninstalling it after a few days.
Digital eq is digital eq. Just different gui’s and slight almost imperciveable harmonics if not pushed hard. The compressors may sound a bit different though
I like both for different things but Waves have the controls down pat for sure. I always have to hold shift with the bx version cause it's way too fiddly. The comp is truer to life on the W version too. The bx rocks on guitars though.
I love the new Waves one but it's a bit of a CPU hog. I have like 5 SSL plugins it's stupid, lol
@@BrofUJu I have an INSATIABLE appetite for SSL and I ain't afraid to say it
@@JoeyFTL I have the Waves SSL, new SSL, CLA SSL, Bx SSL and the official SSL plugin, lmao. I actually probably use all 4 of them except the Bx one depending on what I'm looking for, largely CPU usage or the project
Chillaxing...
Well done. Thank you for your time and effort. Please, mixing start with static mix at least. People don't know how to properly balance their tracks. So by skipping that step, newbies get confused on what to focus on. Don't get me wrong, what you're sharing is valuable. Therefore, it creates that illusion that Eq, compression and other fun stuff are more important, that is what content about mixng tend to focus on.
And I'm also not sure if these are the raw tracks?! Some assistant already did some cleaning stuff? But I like the mix. Thanks
Can hear that Logic Drummer from a mile away
Emery's version sounds like an early Radiohead approach
The hi hat is on the right in the overheads (audience perspective) but you pulled the hi hat mic to the left 😬
you never do that? i always do that on every track all the time and i have won 27 grammys
That's the wrong kick sound for this arrangement. Too much click and not enough resonance.