Control Surface???? I want faders!!!!!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 27 чер 2021
- Affiliate link options below.
Please know that by using any of the links below helps me continue with the channel as if you choose to buy from any of the links below I will get a small commission.
Purchase All Sweetwater Gear Right HERE: - sweetwater.sjv.io/3erZRk
Purchase Gear from Thomann right Here: www.thomann.de/intl/thlpg_l58...
Purchase All Proaudiostar Gear Right HERE: - proaudiostarcom.z5dw.net/GmNRB2
Purchase All Seymour Duncan Pickups Right HERE: - seymour-duncan.sjv.io/baojzM
Purchase All East West Sound Gear Right HERE: - astoundcommercecorporation.sj...
I don't understand why you don't have 500k subs Barry your content is top shelf. I remember when UA-cam started recommending videos to me from a guy named Rick Beato he was mainly doing music theory and had about 10k subs and he's doing really well now so maybe that's a good sign of things to come for you. :- )
I have to say thank you sir. I think you helped me avoid making an expensive mistake! You made some valid points! Again, thank you.
I love your channel man. I’m glad I found it.
Wow, that’s really humbling….thank you so much!
Most people who have learned from the beginning on a DAW are accustomed to the idea of only changing one level -- fading one fader -- at a time. With a surface, as with an actual console, you can ride more than one thing at a time. That's the way I HAVE to mix, and why I have to have a control surface. That one thing makes the rest of the discussion moot.
I agree if that is your workflow. My guess is the majority of surface buyers have not likely ever really worked with real faders.
There are some people like you that should absolutely use a control surface, yet other others that can work very well without one.
using a control surface seems to speed things up. Presonus Studio One is already indie for their fast drag and drop work flow but the Faderport 8 helps me move around even faster esp with the transport control buttons, scrolling rotor and mixing as a hands on approach.
I love my Faderport 8 for essential functions:
the faders.... selecting,muting,soloing and arming tracks, the scroll wheel and transport functions (rec/play/pause/reset)...the rest I do with my LogicKeyboard and mouse
Hey Barry ! I just discovered your channel and MANNNN YOU ARE AWESOME ! Thanks for sharing your experience and thank you especially for your passion !!! Greatings from Montréal Canada ! ;)
Yohan, thanks for your words of encouragement, I truly appreciate it!
Years ago I was in the process of building a 24ch 8 buss control surface. That faded away as my workflow changed. Presently, I have an Avid Artist Control that I would only implement for the purpose of buss control. It has the famed screen issue as to why it’s not already in use, but in any case your points are directly with my current line of though. Great info.
I love my Faderport single fader controller. Its not as sexy as controllers with oodles of faders but it is inexpensive and it fits great on the left of my keyboard. I love closing my eyes and using the single fader to set levels, thats one of the few things I can say where it really beats using a mouse. The transport controls on it are really handy also.
I can totally agree. I have the 16 channel version as well but use the single fader a lot still.
Central FL In The Building! love the Videos!
Faders are dope! 🙌🏼
I live in florida too. Right outside of Tampa. I am picking up all the things for my studio tomorrow. I am so excited
Congrats!!!
I just ordered a control surface. Tried it for a few hours and put it right back in the box and do not regret returning it! Especially after watching this!
Glad I was able to help you with your decision.
You pretty much nailed it - it’s the idea of it more than the actually having to use it part. I very much like the idea of getting a control surface and pushing real faders around, and theoretically doing 90% or more of the things I currently do in Logic with it instead of a keyboard and mouse. But I’ve only ever truly learned and practiced music production in a DAW, using a keyboard and mouse. When I ask myself should I get a controller, and if I’d actually want to take the time to literally re-learn my whole workflow, and accept that it’s actually going to slow me down until I’m really well familiarized with it… well, I just don’t know the answer, and that kind of tells me that I probably shouldn’t get one 🤷🏻♂️
I loved using the D-Command back in the day. As someone who works with both Media Composer and Pro Tools I found many facilities that employ post editors care most about speed and efficiency using keyboard shortcuts. Control surfaces impress clients and there are valid reasons for a facility to have an S4 or S6, but for the self employed engineer focus on speed and quality so you're not economically upside down.
Exactly
Man, I love when someone tells you the truth even if that’s not what you want to hear. Thanks for being honest! I’m definitely using my money in something else or just buy a small single-fader control surface considering there are some other things that could add more value to my mixing.
I LOVE how you're not afraid to speak your truth nor be swayed by commercial agendas.
you are the best my man
i appreciate you
Great Video ! You look like my high school band instructor. Cool guy. Anyways Happy Holidays & thanks for the content.
I use a Faderport 8 with Studio One and sometimes Pro Tools. I also link my MPC to it so I can mix on the fly. It works best for Studio One because you can use more options. I think a control surface makes it feel more like a studio set up.
Great discussion
Touchscreen monitor is the most practical control surface for me. Very little extra to learn and you still get away from the mouse. You don't need a touchscreen designed for DAWs. I use a standard DELL with Studio One and there is very little I can't do with it. Fine tuning of the faders and automation is still easier with the mouse.
Really wondering if I would use a control surface. Like the idea, but I may not use it
I have the Presonus Faderport single fader and what I use it for is when I'm recording drum tracks on a project. When I make mistakes, the transport buttons along with the undo button are my friends. I can stop the track, hit undo and then hit record again as I have it set up right next to me on a table. No getting up and down or reaching for the mouse and keyboard. I'm debating of moving to the 8 or 16 channel Faderport (or possibly the Behinger Touch) because I do miss the old days with my Mackie mixer and being able to mix a bit with the faders. Granted that was not a controller but just an audio mixer with 1/4" plugs for the in and out. Now that I have settled on Logic as my DAW of choice, I would really like to try using faders along with the automation. I think if I created some busses for the main parts (vocals, drums, gtr, etc), I could use them for automation. I would like to move away from using the mouse and as sometimes my wrist gets a bit aggravated with one hand and finger doing all of the work. If I could utilize both hands and learn to be more efficient, I feel like it could be a time saving thing as well.
I found it necessary to move into a control surface and DAW after having purchased a Tascam SD32 which is in my songwriting studio. Having jumping into Softtube's console one and the 10 channel fader console I am happy at about a 7 from 1 to 10. I've been learning both keyboard shortcuts (studioone keyoard) as well as the controls on the surfaces. It does take practice and I'd rather go through the painful process of learning the buttons to get to 2nd nature hits and turns then use the mouse and keys. I also have a touch screen a rarely even touch it. I don't have the need of for it unless I start to fumble with a mouse grab or something intermittently fails. The thing with Softube is that it takes over the DAW so you need to set the DAW faders at -1.5 (my liking) while the controller actually writes the automation. I don't use latch.
For me the only real need I have is controlling certain dynamics whilst composing. I compose with orchestral libraries and many I have have multiple faders. But now you talked about knobs it could make sense to have more and physical ones because I always found uniteresting to turning them with a mouse
I am looking for those faders control surfaces to do what you say ; control modulations , dynamics, expression, vibrato ... And I do not know what to take lol.
I don't think I would use a control surface for mixing but it might be handy for setting up monitoring where you need to make a lot of changes quickly.
If you’re used to working without one, it’s probably more beneficial to spend that money on some hardware, a better quality mic preamp, possibly a compressor or EQ.
Had a control 24 and a c24 at the end of the day I sold them both and bought more analog hardware. I just couldn’t justify the cost and the loss of investment every time a new control surface comes out. Just My opinion though and I just do this music thing because I love it. To each their own and thanks for the share brother!!!
Love the Bling! I currently have 3 Avid S1's and a Protools Dock on one desk each paired with 12.9 inch iPad Pros. I choose not to use Pro Tools. I sketch and do most work in Logic but mix real jobs in Nuendo. The ability to switch between our Logic Workstation and our Nuendo Workstation, on the fly, is remarkable! Eucon over ethernet makes this possible and is fantastic, (when it works.) Eucon is highly temperamental.
You mentioned "The Great Mixers Of Today" not using control surfaces. I don't know of any (A-List Film Mixers) working without a surface. Alan Meyerson 130 films for Hans Zimmer alone. Dennis Sands every Marvel film as well as 300 other titles. They both use the Avid S6 with a trackball. Junkie XL may be the exception.
Finally, you also mentioned The SSL UF8 Control Surface.... I'm sure you're aware that the UF8 pairs perfectly with that SSL UC1 you are currently demoing. Are you also demoing the plugin?
Thank you for watching! Great setup by the way….as far as my comment on mixing, yes, you are right, I did not take into consideration the amazing work that people like yourself do with video, I can easily see why a control surface is excellent for that workflow.
Yes, I actually got the plug-in demo which compelled me to look at the UC1. The plugins are very, very good! When you compare the price of both the channel strip and buss compressor, the surface is a no brained to me, it’s only a few hundred dollars more than just buying both plugins.
Film Score Composers are very different people from Post Production. The large format AVID S6 control surface's are heavily used in Film and T.V Post Production esp Atmos. Argosy Console designs larger format desks for the AVID S1, S3, and S6 control surfaces called the Eclipse.
I’m really thinking about it because I like feeling like I’m in a dawless setup.
I am a hobbyist but I wanted the "bling" you mentioned, o r a little bit of it. I got a Behringer X Touch One. For me, who has no experience, seemed a nice bit of hardware. However, I was able to map a similar functionality and more on an old tablet running Lemur, so I sent back the unit. I think I'm not at a place where I "need" even one physical fader. I still can do a lot with the tablet, mouse, and a Stream Deck for shortcuts. For me, the physical control surface is still in the "nice to have" category.
I can understand. Control Surfaces are not a piece of gear that’s is definitely going to make your workflow better, for some it can be, others in the way. Money can be spent more wisely for many.
Great video, thanks. I am looking to get a control surface. Either the Presonus faderport 8/16, Korg Nanokontrol, or the Qcon pro x. Or do I really need it ? Any experience with eiter of these, or other daw controllers ? Let me know.
@ 3:20 I really REALLY hope that you can help UA/LUNA setup to use a DAW controller such as Procontrol, D-Command, D-Control, etc.
very interdasting
In the past I tried a simple Digidesign Command 8, but I discovered that I don’t need faders.
Just like you I prefer to draw volumes etc. with the keyboard and mouse instead of with faders.
But I did like controlling my compressors and Eq’s with real knobs.
So currently I’m looking into a Avid Dock to control all my plugins, but as I own a lot of Softube plugins and the SSL plugins, so I’m also having my eyes on the Control 1 and the UC1. With either I have choose to kind of go with their platform. With the Avid Dock I should be able to control all my plugins.
I think there are a lot of people in your same situation. My recommendation though, if you’re in ProTools, only use avid Control Surfaces. All the others have to use HUI and it’s an old protocol, that has limitations in ProTools due to that.
@@BarryJohns yeh, you are right, I always forget about the old HUI protocol.
I use slate and a fader port...I use my fader port more so as a remote almost like having a tape machine remote! but my take on those controllers...I just see it as a big mouse! love my dual ravens!
Please tell me If one 8x interface will be enough to do the job? Connected to 8 sub group faders on the right side on the console? I must record on console preamps only synths, guitars, vocal, no drums.
I am planning to purchase the Audient ASP 4816 console which has 16 main faders and 8 Sub-Group / Line I / P faders. On the back of the console 3x D-Sub connectors.
I want to do anolog summing by console faders. To do it correctly - 8x interface is enough or I must have 24x interface or 3x16 interface?
Great channel. Thank you very very much for your work.
I want the a touch Universal for my Logic. But I have no more room on my desk
Hey Barry: I used to have a D-Command. It has a GREAT universal encoder section in the middle. Why not use that, instead of the SSL which only works with the SSL plug-in.
I ended up returning the SSL Controller, but kept the plugins. The new plugins are not properly mapped to the D-Command but I custom mapped them to work fine.
Would you still recommend a Pro Control today with today's computer hardware and OSs? I have always been impressed with the way they looked and now that I just started using Protools, the Pro Control would look amazing if I could get one for an affordable price. Also, is there any other addition special pieces of hardware I would need in order to make a Pro Control work (special PCI cards, network cards, external USB hardware, etc)?
BTW, I do not have Protools Ultimate. I have the propectual license.
I have a lot of experience with the pro control, I had a 24 channel before I bought my D-command.
If you want to use it with ProTools as it was meant to be used, you need to be on a TDM HD system. Today you can get TDM cards very cheap, as well as 192 I/O’s. One thing you have to consider, is you’re investing in really old technology, so you have to understand that whatever money you spend on it today, is money that you are not likely to get back at a later point.
Neyrinck Audio makes drivers for the pro control, were you can use it with other digital audio workstation‘s, as well as Protools native, but keep in mind it’s emulating the HUI Protocol. This isn’t A problem for most digital audio workstation is, however it’s quite limiting within Protools.
The only hardware you need to get it working, it’s a simple ethernet hub, as it connects via ethernet to your computer.
@@BarryJohns Oh, I see. Yeah, I have Protools Native 2021 with the latest features running on a brand new Dell XPS Windows 10 desktop with an 8 core i7 and 64GB of RAM. I have two MOTU 24AI's as my interface. Connected to one of those is a Behringer ADA8200 which gives me 8 additional analog input channels via ADAT as well as output channels that I send to my monitors. I'm thinking about upgrading from the Behringer to higher quality ADAT converters (probably an additional MOTU) at some point. The 8 channel preamps can get noisy if I increase the gain on them too much.
I doubt I would want to buy old TDM hardware. Therefore, it is great to know there are drivers available where I could still use a Pro Control with my current system. So, I'll definitely keep that in mind and the Pro Control as a possible option to consider. Hmmm...HUI Protocol is limiting, within Protools? I'm gonna have to do more research on that since it is not something I have ever tried to use. The Pro Control certainly is sweet looking though (like the cockpit of a spaceship from a sci-fi movie). I'm also not sure how expensive it is today because I haven't checked prices on the used market yet. So whether I would be able to afford it or not is questionable.
I used to have a Tascam DM4800 console (which also looked sweet) before I upgraded to my current system. However, I had to sell it unfortunately. Your D-Command definitely reminds me of the DM4800.
Berry, Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. Your input has been very helpful and very much appreciated.
It's simple. Are they helpful if you grew up with a board then it's a big help with work flow. If you are new to recording and DAW's you won't need it.
The old tascam us 2400….if mapped out correctly it’s still hard to beat. I use it with Cubase . I mapped out all the midi rotor knobs to the ssl 4000g plugin and to me it’s like having 24 faders of a real console.
A shame that was discontinued
I think you hit on the main reason to have a console these days: looks. They are impressive and can give your studio clout even if you never use them.
I'm still using my Digi 003 Factory. I've used the newer Avid controllers and it's crazy to me that they're not as tightly integrated with Pro Tools as this 15 year older interface/control surface. Avid took over and things just went downhill because all they care about is money.
Those units along with the Command 8 have always been great control surfaces!
@@BarryJohns True, indeed!! I used a Presonus 16.0.2 for years as an interface. 2 of them went down over the last 2 years, so I gave up on them. I bought the 003 to use "in the meantime" after never have used it before and it's been great as a controller and interface. Using it with an external clock and an external pre (via ADAT), and I'm keeping this thing!!
I was going to go UAD, but I'm over it now.
Good video Barry.. The problem with most Control Surfaces is the implementation.
1) Who are the targeted audience?
2) Most Control surfaces workflows are not straightforward for the average engineer.
3) Looks way too complicated
4) Some are way too expensive for an item that does not pass audio in or out.
The Yamaha-Nuage is the most straightforward yet powerful Control surface on the market in my opinion.
Having said the above, I'm and others are pressuring the Digital ( live) mixer manufacturers to "complete the circle of their product. The modern digital mixer is way more
straight forward than most DAW control surfaces. Pro of using the Digital Mixer in the studio:
1) Good Mic Pres
2) Nice Head Room
3) Nice summing
4) Programmable routing
5) Good Fx
6) Powerful.
That's the future..
If anybody does eventually make a surface like that, and I agree it would be compelling, probably expensive for the average user though, they should do the conversion like Metric Halo, where you can just upgrade the converters as technology advances. Interesting at the very least! Thanks for watching!
Most pros don't use half the features of a digital Mixer in the studio let alone process Audio through them as they prefer analog outboard pres and their own set of converters for their computer based DAW. I use the Presonus Faderport 8 and it's very straight forward and works flawlessly with my Studio One Pro DAW. It was made for S1 but can work with Protools and other DAWs too.
Hey Barry, thank you for your videos! I am looking into a D-Command as well. Is the D-Command still working under Pro Tools 2021.10? We never know when it is going to be abandoned, but for the moment it seems that we can stay current with PT updates. Right?
Cheers from Austria, Andreas
D-Command still getting things done!
@@BarryJohns you still have a blue one, right? Do you know if it has an „old“ or „new“ logic board? Rumours have it that the old board is not recognised by PT since V12… do you know anything about this?
@@andreasrathammer yes mine is blue, but no idea about logicboard.
@@BarryJohns i thought so... who cares about logic boards :-) thank you so much for answering, anyway. means i am half way there to finding the solution! Best, Andy
Just had a power cut and fried my Icon Nano. I use Bitwig and all my gear is "In the box" so a control surface is ideal. I was looking to upgrade to a larger controller. Not sure what to get yet, which is why I ended up here.
I’m a fan of the SSL UFX
That foam is killing me!
You can say that all you want, but my mixes translate perfectly…….just sayin’. FYI I have traditional bass traps throughout. Problem is I have a mirror walls to the right floor to ceiling the entire wall, a mirrored ceiling, and tile floor. The space was a workout room before we bought the house.
@@BarryJohns that’s all that matters. From my perspective it’s 100% aesthetics. If you don’t care what people think and you’re getting the results, keep it simple. Personally, I cringe when I see foam acoustic treatment but I’ve never done a single job with audio (let’s face it, 90% of your audience as you get bigger will just be hobbyists)
Xtouch universal for me in logic
Hello Barry
Just discovered your channel. Looks like your doing very good work and getting a good community started.
I'm very interested to see where you go with your 'control surface' research'. I just watched a previous vid of yours on 'How Many EQs Do You Need?' Personally, I'm really tired of trying out plug-ins and I'm tired of the amount of CPU that most of the good ones use. It's just such a pain.
Anyway, good luck with your channel. I of course subbed. There is content on my channel if you want to see what I'm about. Like you I love to talk shop. (but I don't talk shop on my channel, yet.)
Sincerely,
Todd Greenwood
Saskatchewan
Canada
Todd, thank you so much for your feedback. Yea, I was shocked when I saw how many views my plug-in video got, I thought maybe I’d get a couple hundred. Really crazy. I will check out your channel tomorrow, gotta go to bed soon!
I prefer faders and a transport control in my workflow as I use the Faderport port8 in my Hybrid mixing setup. Much of the recording industry doesn't mix on a large format analog console anymore as everyone has moved to digital Hybrid mixing in the box with analog outboard eliminating the Mixer in their setup all together. You see a lot of Argosy Console and Sterling Modular desks these days in professional control rooms and mixing rooms that are replacing the bigger foot print analog consoles. CLA is part of the minority group that still mixes on an analog console.
Very true!
I use Console 1. Muscle memory is just a matter of a few days.
I’ve heard good things about the unit and the plug-in. It’s laid out well!
I have Console 1 and 3 Icon qcon's I actually painted the top of the knobs to match the colour of SSL and now I only use my mouse and keyboard for UA-cam 😁 I'm using Reason so the Console 1 is mapped to the ssl mixer in Reason
@@humancaos that’s creative!
I know what you mean about the control surfaces, I have a FaderPort 8 and I rarely use it. Not even as a transport control. BUT I really want the UC1, I find it so hard to use the buttons on EQ plugins. I want to twist & turn the dials! Let us know how you get on with it, I'm super curious! I also hear rumours that SSL are working on a transport, I think that would speed me up a bit too... From grey, wet Kinsale! ☘️☮️🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮️☘️
I recorded my video yesterday on the MC1 will be put soon!
I looked at the uc1 too, but it seems it only works with the SSL channels and channel strip plugins, not with general VST’s etc.
@@victorblakey4260 Hey Victor! Yeah it's designed for the SSL plugins by SSL. I think there other solutions for multiple use scenarios. Because I'm planning to use the SSL plugins exclusively, this works for me. 💪🏽🤠👍🏽
Nice Video but Run the AVID S1 With a IPAD PRO 11.5 2nd Gen I’m gonna add one more S1 and the Dock. I only like the control Surface to Grab More then one fader I also run Logic and ProTools S1 works with Logic😎👍🏾
It came from somewhere ;) amen brother
Hi Barry, thanks for your video. After watching it I purchased the 48fader d-control. There is the very interested information from you that There is a company doing the software (writing code) to able to use the digidesign ICON on other DAW. Can you help me to give me more infomation about this as I run dual DAW on my studio: Protools for recording and mixing, Cubase for music sequencing. Thank you very much.
They are at the beginning stage of writing drivers to be able to use ICON’s with other DAW’s.
neyrinck.com/v-control-pro/
@@BarryJohns thanks alot Barry. This app will bring my control 24 back to life.
Please could you elaborate on why you said "If your working with Pro Tools Only use Avid Control Surfaces" For a while I was considering jumping for a few Avid Artist Mix controllers, but before I could get the money up they became Discontinued and disappeared. The Avid S3 for £4500+ and 16 Channels is ridiculous and not financially Viable, as I was hoping to get around 32 channels and cannot justify £9000+ for that. But recently I've had my eye on the SSL UF8 & SSL UC1, was thinking about Getting 4 UF8's to Give me 32 channels of hands on control and 1 UC1 for deeper plugin control and all this comes to £3900. As you can Imagine this is far more attractive than Spending £9000 on two Avid S3's, so is there a reason why non Avid Surfaces are a Bad idea when using Pro Tools? Does it Cause problems?
All non avid control surfaces have to use HUI emulation which is not well integrated in PT as other DAW’s.
I'm still waiting for someone to release a control surface thats the mother load of control surfaces, top quality with plenty of exceptional faders with expandability, and built like a dream car, one that works with every DAW and has plenty more that blows the doors on anything else on the market... I would sacrifice desk space all day for it al day. I have UAD compatible Softube Console 1 mixing system MK2 , faderport 16, and single FP V2, running Studio One 6 and LUNA , via apollo... they work and they're great products but absolutely not perfect.
OMG i found this Video at the right time !!! No i hope you ready this Post and in the best Case you even can Help me with a good Advice ...
Here my question :
Am using Logic Pro X and want to Buy an ICON D- Control ( Minimum 32 Fader + Surround Panner ! Can i make it Work with Neyrinck ? I know The Icon is Working but ibdint know how may Fader Strips it Supports ans as well If the Dolby Stuff is Working ....
I Hope you can Help me to make the right discussion on it !
Best regards Out of the big Sand Pit Dubai
Stephan
I tried using my D-Command with Neyrinck early on in it development, the integration was very limited.
My 32!channel D-Command has been sitting in a spare room since I moved away from ProTools. Not sure if they’ve made any advancement’s since then.
@@BarryJohns first of all many thanks for your quick answer !
I already checked on they Webside and looks like that they are supporting even Silicon Macs but looks like 24 Faders only !
Looks like I have to move to YAMAHA NUAGE or AVID S4 which will leave a deep Hole in the Bank ….
But no way around since I’m in the Audio Business more than 25 years and Faders are a must have !
Keep on your amazing work on your Channel and maybe we could stay in touch for some mere exchange !
Thanks a lot 🙏
Faderport v2 with V Control Pro (only cause HUI protocol sucks) really only need one fader to write automation.
I think a control surface is a great tool for one major reason. I just don't think mixing one fader at a time with a mouse works.
You can group faders and move several at the same time
My tough is if you get a controller it needs to have motorised fader end endless encoders or you going to spend to much time setting the knobs and faders to match the setting on screen, eventually your back at just using your mouse. same with keyboards with faders and knobs after a week you will not use them again because it's wasting time
That is what many experience as using them to their potential requires a commitment and consistency, otherwise people resort to what’s easy at the time.
True thoughts. I have exactly the same experience. I had the first mackie controls (three units, I was the marketing director of Emagic :-) They were sitting in my studio for some years. I did not use them, because I was faster with the mouse and I didn't want to spend the time to get used to it. But I still dream of the perfect controllers. Instead I kept my analog soundcraft ghost with 56 inline channels. I use it as a big "patchbay" for my analog gear and amp microphones which are placed with the cabs. Thus I can record and monitor without latency. A big plus! Especially when you put a big load on you cpu with all the digital goodies. The mixing and editing I do entirely in the box.
Honestly, I don't want to miss all the innovative plugins I am using. And you can not operate them with an "old fashioned" controller. Today the EQs are multiband, offer different curves, can be switched to dynamic eqs, offer saturation and m/s functionality. How do you operate this kind of modern standard EQs with a controller?
Your storybook a like a lot of us that have been at this so for as long as we have. It’s funny you bring up emagic, I bet most people don’t even recognize the name, and it was amazing in the day. I remember when Apple bought the company. It’s been an interesting ride!
@@BarryJohns I came from ADATs and a Yamaha O2R. I used that O2R for years and could run it in my sleep. I continued to use it when I finally converted to Emagic's Logic. Only recently when I did a big computer and software upgrade did a buy a control surface. I wound up with a great deal on a Behringer X Touch and Extender from a guy that was selling everything he had. At first it was buggy and then there was a firmware update and it was like heaven opened up. I like putting my hands on faders, because I had faders for years.
O nice . you live in central florida ? I move to central florida 2020 from California , im in citrus county , I work Many years at Cafe Seviila Sandiego and I play for many years with a lot of the Top Salsa Bands from California
Very cool, I lived in Pacific Beach back in the 90’s.
@@BarryJohns love PB but in the past years I don't know it was getting a little crapy, I was living there for a wile also maybe 2015 something like that
@@DjTumbao yea it went down hill after I left in ‘96, became more like OB over the years. I went back in 2005/2006 and it’s just wasn’t the same, except for the off the charts burrito place that I always loved.
When I was there it was LaJolla Lite.
@@BarryJohns hahah Yea La Jolla and Coronado are still nice and Del Mar , yea agree OP is more like ocean Beach now , the burritos are good in PB they also have great Italian Food there, they have couple of really good authentic Italian Restaurant , there is also Costa Brava a Spanish Restaurant that is really good, if you happen to go there again and you have not been to Costa Brava I suggest you try it the Paella is so good
Presonus Faderport looks helpful and doesn't cost much
Where’s the video of you Using your DAW Controller?
Using it, I don’t think I’ve ever done a video demonstrating it. Not sure that would be worth doing as very few people have a D-Command. I have an SSL UF8 being delivered tomorrow and then I’ll sell my D-Command.
I do have a video showing how to replace a fader and also I have tutorials on the D-Command that I collected from the internet and put them all together to help people learn it.
Protools is still the industry standard, whether you like it or not, sure there's lot of options but protools is used by studios, producers, radio networks, tv and film industry . Protools is the first choice . sure home studios have a choice, but the industry standard is still Avids DAW suite,
As a song writer I dont need it but I want it anyways . Its my hobby so what the hell.... life is short!
Story of my life🤦♂️
Faders are really not needed in my opinion, but to each his own. Control surfaces are great for looks though. Imo
If you feel that you have to consult with or hide from your wife smart/necessary purchases for your company, ya done chose the wrong woman.
George "dubuhya" Bush
I cut my teeth on large consoles and tape machines. I really miss the immediacy of a real console, but I have found that in reality I am happy with one control surface fader. More is cool, but it is not worth the extra money. I realised that when I was mixing on a real console, I would only ever automate one fader at a time anyway.
What really doesn't cut it for me though, is "turning" pretend knobs on a screen with a mouse.
They look beautiful these days, but it is so unnatural that it disconnects my ears a bit.
Turning actual knobs with my fingers seems to switch my ears on somehow.
But the resolution has to be right, otherwise it's worse.
Going back amd forth between Logic and PT, I too have to be fast with a mouse as my control surface doesn’t work with Logic. As far as plugins go, that’s where mybD-Command shines, it’s so easy and you can map the plug-in parameters to custom knobs if you want if you don’t want to have to control every parameter of the plug-in.
Avid just have that ability to their S-1 controllers, I’ve got a video/rant coming out about that soon too.
@@BarryJohns I only use logic. I was kind of expecting Apogee to come through with some kind of control system, seeing as they have pretty deep integration in logic anyway. But it never happened.
Apparently the Avid controllers will work with Logic. I watched half a video of a guy doing it.
So much money though.
im not a fan on the control surfaces that are dedicated to a single plugin! too much space and I have ravens so I can bring up the plugin and touch away!