Yes. I believe code commonly says that electrical boxes should be flush with the surface of the wall, so you would need to kick them out the 3/4" of thickness of the SONOpan.
@@dienekes4364 And the width of the 5/8 ceiling and 1/2 wall sheetrock. Receptical boxes cannot be brought out that far and remain rigid enough to hold their form. What do you mount the drywall to? If you screw the sheetrock to the ceiling joist and studs,you would have to use 2" screws to get enough penetration into the wood to support the sheetrock. More holes would be pocked through the green stuff and sound would transfer through the screws so you gain nothing. Ever heard of spray foam? Insulates and works as a sound proofer. Much less hassel for the sheetrocker and electrician. Might even be cheaper than the green stuff. Regular fiberglass insulation works good also.
If you were just looking at quieting the noise between you basement rec room and upstairs living area Would 3.5" of OC quiet zone , than Sonopan , resilient bar than 1/2 drywall do the job ? OC quiet zone is 60cents a sqft and Rockwool is $1.20 a sqft 5/8 drywall is now $25 a sheet and 1/2 is $13 a sheet ( also I am 65 , 5/8 is just getting to heavy) LOL There is an open staircase to the main level from the basement so you can not soundproof the area any way
Could you fit a doorway at the bottom and close of the stairway down if open plan? I'm looking into soundproof myself as house is like cardboard, hear everything..... It's so bad you think they are in the same room as you if downstairs or in bedroom next to you..... I'm looking at putting in rockwool, buy in the summer when on sale. For floors I was thinking putting insulation backed plasterboard up but I'm now thinking lift floor boards stuff with rockwool, vinyl flooring with the roll of dampener material underneath, doors also at some point need changing to solid as what's here are hollow crap.....
This would be good soundproofing and most homeowners are happy with the results from an assembly like you just mentioned. Honestly it just depends how much soundproofing you're looking to achieve.
How does a sheet of Sonopan compare to drywall for sound reduction? Would a sheet of Sonopan + 5/8" drywall reduce sound more effectively than 2 sheets of 5/8" drywall with Green Glue in between? Also, is there any sealing required at the seams where sheets of Sonopan meet?
SgtZima also curious on this. I’d happily try both products in one of my renovations and share it on my UA-cam channel. I think sonopanel will exceed green glue as it’s finish is thicker.
Green glue is a different element of soundproofing, it is a decoupler which is good for heavy vibrational sounds where SONOpan is good for a wide range of sound frequencies including low bass. It's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, though SONOpan is less expensive and much easier to install ;)
@Maxime Poulin - QuietRock uses two different thicknesses of drywall around the viscoelastic middle layer. If there's air between two sheets of drywall, 5/8 + 1/2" outperforms 2 x 5/8, because the 2 x 5/8s will resonate with each other. I would love to know if there is any of that effect when there's Green Glue between them.
How does sonopan with regular insulation in a wall compare to roxul safe n sound? Can sonopan be used on the ceilings with res bar followed by 2 layers of 5/8”
🎬 Heres my take: According to acoustic specialists with whom I’ve worked with to achieve the best sound insulation, protecting sound from escaping to the rest of the home, it’s recommended to build “a box with in a box” making sure the room is separated from the rest of the environment to avoid sound travel ...start with a good fibreglass insulation (i.e. Roxul) between your studs (walls & ceiling) then install the 3/4” Sonopan (great video by the way) resilient bar - or even better if you have the budget sound insulation clips - and then minimum 2 - but preferably 3 layers of type X or 5/8” drywall. Add mass! The green glue - highly necessary, rotating drywall panels a must, and Puddy patches on all electrical j-boxes and switches. As for the interior to achieve a good sound quality and maximize your audio experience - there’s more to it! Then of course a professional theater designer to create the WOW factor 😎.
@@sonopan_msl Great video! My task is to soundproof the wall between a bathroom and a guest bedroom. I don’t know how to determine the amount of soundproofing I need to block out a toilet flush. 😂😂 Is this overkill for my task? Thanks
can sonopan be used on the floor then a rug, vinyl, Laminate or hard wood put on top of it? Not sure how to finish floor yet but I need the sound proofing on the floor.
To purchase SONOpan in the US, email us at info@sonopan.com with your location and the number of panels you wish to purchase, and we will help coordinate the order.
@@yamansitar I emailed the company and they said it's not available in the UK unfortunately. I've not been able to find anything like it here, if you have any luck let me know
For adding drywall afterwards, just use normal drywall screws?
Do you have to change the depth of your electrical boxes and recessed lights to make up for the drywall to go on top of the Sonopan?
Yes. I believe code commonly says that electrical boxes should be flush with the surface of the wall, so you would need to kick them out the 3/4" of thickness of the SONOpan.
@@dienekes4364 And the width of the 5/8 ceiling and 1/2 wall sheetrock. Receptical boxes cannot be brought out that far and remain rigid enough to hold their form. What do you mount the drywall to? If you screw the sheetrock to the ceiling joist and studs,you would have to use 2" screws to get enough penetration into the wood to support the sheetrock. More holes would be pocked through the green stuff and sound would transfer through the screws so you gain nothing. Ever heard of spray foam? Insulates and works as a sound proofer. Much less hassel for the sheetrocker and electrician. Might even be cheaper than the green stuff. Regular fiberglass insulation works good also.
If you were just looking at quieting the noise between you basement rec room and upstairs living area
Would 3.5" of OC quiet zone , than Sonopan , resilient bar than 1/2 drywall do the job ?
OC quiet zone is 60cents a sqft and Rockwool is $1.20 a sqft
5/8 drywall is now $25 a sheet and 1/2 is $13 a sheet ( also I am 65 , 5/8 is just getting to heavy) LOL
There is an open staircase to the main level from the basement so you can not soundproof the area any way
Could you fit a doorway at the bottom and close of the stairway down if open plan?
I'm looking into soundproof myself as house is like cardboard, hear everything.....
It's so bad you think they are in the same room as you if downstairs or in bedroom next to you.....
I'm looking at putting in rockwool, buy in the summer when on sale.
For floors I was thinking putting insulation backed plasterboard up but I'm now thinking lift floor boards stuff with rockwool, vinyl flooring with the roll of dampener material underneath, doors also at some point need changing to solid as what's here are hollow crap.....
This would be good soundproofing and most homeowners are happy with the results from an assembly like you just mentioned. Honestly it just depends how much soundproofing you're looking to achieve.
@@sonopan_msl - If he has an open staircase to the basement rec room, is there much point in soundproofing the basement rec room ceiling?
How does a sheet of Sonopan compare to drywall for sound reduction? Would a sheet of Sonopan + 5/8" drywall reduce sound more effectively than 2 sheets of 5/8" drywall with Green Glue in between? Also, is there any sealing required at the seams where sheets of Sonopan meet?
SgtZima also curious on this.
I’d happily try both products in one of my renovations and share it on my UA-cam channel.
I think sonopanel will exceed green glue as it’s finish is thicker.
I've done same green glue with 2x type X 5/8" drywall. I wonder if this works as well.
@@MikeRosehart It was the 5/8" drywall vs Sonopan I was more curious about. Specifically how 2x 5/8" would compare to 1x Sonopan + 1x 5/8"
Green glue is a different element of soundproofing, it is a decoupler which is good for heavy vibrational sounds where SONOpan is good for a wide range of sound frequencies including low bass. It's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, though SONOpan is less expensive and much easier to install ;)
@Maxime Poulin - QuietRock uses two different thicknesses of drywall around the viscoelastic middle layer.
If there's air between two sheets of drywall, 5/8 + 1/2" outperforms 2 x 5/8, because the 2 x 5/8s will resonate with each other. I would love to know if there is any of that effect when there's Green Glue between them.
That's it? No mass loaded vinyl??
How does sonopan with regular insulation in a wall compare to roxul safe n sound?
Can sonopan be used on the ceilings with res bar followed by 2 layers of 5/8”
🎬 Heres my take: According to acoustic specialists with whom I’ve worked with to achieve the best sound insulation, protecting sound from escaping to the rest of the home, it’s recommended to build “a box with in a box” making sure the room is separated from the rest of the environment to avoid sound travel ...start with a good fibreglass insulation (i.e. Roxul) between your studs (walls & ceiling) then install the 3/4” Sonopan (great video by the way) resilient bar - or even better if you have the budget sound insulation clips - and then minimum 2 - but preferably 3 layers of type X or 5/8” drywall. Add mass! The green glue - highly necessary, rotating drywall panels a must, and Puddy patches on all electrical j-boxes and switches. As for the interior to achieve a good sound quality and maximize your audio experience - there’s more to it! Then of course a professional theater designer to create the WOW factor 😎.
Yes it can as long as you have long enough screws. I've had to do 3 layers of 5/8 on res bar before
Use safe and sound too
Our ears would not hear the difference between SONOpan + reglar insulation or other options.
@@sonopan_msl Great video! My task is to soundproof the wall between a bathroom and a guest bedroom. I don’t know how to determine the amount of soundproofing I need to block out a toilet flush. 😂😂 Is this overkill for my task? Thanks
Please distribute SONOPAN in Korea, too !!!!!
Unfortunately, we don't sell or have distributors outside Canada and US.
Is there Sonopan or similar in UK? Thanks
did you find anything in the uk , thanks
Unfortunately, we don't sell or have distributors outside Canada and US.
can sonopan be used on the floor then a rug, vinyl, Laminate or hard wood put on top of it? Not sure how to finish floor yet but I need the sound proofing on the floor.
You would add it to the ceiling below, not the floor.
SONOpanX can be used on floors.
Will you guys ship to the US?
Yea please ship to US.
To purchase SONOpan in the US, email us at info@sonopan.com with your location and the number of panels you wish to purchase, and we will help coordinate the order.
Go to home depot
is there something like this in the uk , thanks
Unfortunately, we don't sell or have distributors outside Canada and US.
Can you put it on a a loft conversion
Yes, any wall or ceiling. For floors SONOpanX can be used
Is this stuff fire rated?
SONOpan is UL listed for fire rated assemblies when installed as directed.
is this stuff available in the UK?
Looking for it as well.
did you find anything in the uk , thanks
@@yamansitar I emailed the company and they said it's not available in the UK unfortunately. I've not been able to find anything like it here, if you have any luck let me know
@@HereBezMe I will do ,thanks
Unfortunately, we don't sell or have distributors outside Canada and US.
there is no soundproof enough strong. If neighbour decides to proof the sound.
Insulation...plus sonopan...plus drywall...$$$$
Hi there, Idk where you are located, but SONOpan sells at a very competitive price in Canada.
Domt buy this product. Its a waste of money and time. The sound was only reduced by 15% which is not as advertised
15% isn't bad.
I agree, not to mention how messy it is when installing!