I don't know if this makes Braking Bad older than I thought or the Mythbusters younger than I thought, but in my head, these shows are like 8years apart
@@dlfrestoration if you think breaking bad was last good show since 08 you need to stop waiting to be spoonfed content. There are SO MANY fantastic series and movies. Breaking bad was without a doubt one of the best series ever made, but its not the first, last or best imho, it just reminded people what a good story CAN be.
@@spran369 methamphetamin? Pharmaceutical companies do make methamphetamin as medicition As example for ADHD and narcolepsy, even for children The last years it‘s used more often again legally
No no you missed something 🫢 The actual myth is if blue meth is an indicator of pureness! spoiler: it’s not … meth is natural white so you would make it blue by adding impurities 🫨 Myth : BUSTED💥
The "secret acid" is Piranha Solution btw - It's made with 3 parts of concentrated sulfuric acid and 1 part of 30% hydrogen peroxide solution, same ratio used in this episode. It's so dangerous that just mixing it too quickly can cause it to boil and even explode
That's what I figured out as well from "lots of Hydrogen and Oxygen". Deduced rather. Not really that many ways these 2 can bond in order to satisfy "the Ultimate Theatrical Effect" requirement the duo has consistently made their trademark...
For those of you who want to know what the secret sauce was, it's Hydrogen Peroxide and with sulfuric acid it forms "Piranha solution". At 18:27 on the left jug they didn't censor the "Hydrogen Peroxide" written on there.
36:28 The most common material for bathtubs and shower tubs in *Not America* is enamel-coated steel. For toilet bowls and bathroom sinks, that would be porcelain. I'm honestly not sure why I was surprised by fiber glass apparently being more common in America, seeing how the people there have seemingly never heard of concrete walls and double-paned windows, which are standards in Europe.
I am sure Tuco had his office professionally cleaned after the blast to remove the fine mercury dust. Would not want any long-term brain damage leading to unpredictable behavior during drug deals. Everyone should stay relaxed and focused during those.
Having been a mineral and metallurgical assayer in my past life, I worked with various chemicals, however the one that needed total attention whilst handling is Hydrofluoric Acid used digest quartz, silicates and silicon metal (metalloid) and heated in special high temperature resistant teflon beakers. HF is the one acid that can be very fatal if handled without strict training and the use of proper PPE. As for the special sauce used with the Sulphuric (Sulfuric) H2SO4 acid bath, and if I heard correctly towards the end of the video the sauce is made up of H202 Hydrogen Peroxide which definitely got the violent super heated reaction going.
HF is actually a weak acid by definition and not as corrosive as strong acids such as Hydrochloric (HCl), however, corrosivity is the least hazardous aspect of HF. The toxicity of HF is the main concern. HF is absorbed through the skin quickly and is a severe systemic toxin.
Many years ago I worked in a lab that used HF in their research and it was kept in plastic because it corroded glass and its toxic properties were what made us respect the horrid stuff.
What if???: 1) They could do mercury fulminate something more rigid, when they throw against the wall or floor the deformation of that solid MF will cause a better reaction, it was just a powder, and you have to remember that Tuco's place was made of concrete. 2) Considering that Jesse's house was not a new house, i could bet if that bathtub could be scratched or broken, that scratch could be enough to the special sauce and acid penetrates very good and dissolve it. and as an old house maybe the wet environment under the bathtub could be the best place to drain all that dissolved matter. Note: obviously Vince Gilligan didn’t put exact proportions not to promote people to do it in real life, like the meth they didn't show the exact formula.
Wooden walls take more in of the shockwave, then brick, so it lowers the chances to blow out the windows. Also asking the specialist how the difference between the powder and crystal form could matter, next to it beign extremely hard to crystalize, would sound like an insteresting follow up on this vis.
yeah if its that fragile during creation, then maybe it should've gone of when tuco's goons pressed it down while putting it on the desk.... but hey, maybe they will follow up :)
At 17:15 into the video, the liquid in those bottles did not look like pure sulfuric acid. Concentrated sulfuric acid is very viscous. The thick (oil like) consistency is what gave sulfuric acid its other name, "oil of vitriol." Look it up. If they used pure sulfuric acid, the pig flesh would almost instantly turn into black carbon, because the acid rips out water from the compounds in the flesh, thus leaving mainly carbon. You would also need a whole lot more acid to dissolve that much pork.
@@bobthe7778 18 mol/L is concentraded not super saturated. It is the same as 96% You can get 99.9% but it offgasses a lot. It is also less corrosive as the water helps the reactions take place.
It would definitely be more likely to explode. 50g of it would not blow up a building though, and it would not leave people inside alive if it did. The crystals would also look nothing like they did in the show - you just can't make crystals of mercury fulminate that size (you'd get a few millimetres at best) and it's the wrong colour (closer to that powder's colour).
Key to the fulminated mercury and other similar substances being too impact reactive is "screwing up" the process to create crystals (just don't, ever), not fine powder. They made it too perfectly.
To increase the reactivity or strength of sulfuric acid, some possible answers include: Concentration: Increasing the concentration of sulfuric acid can enhance its reactivity. Temperature: Raising the temperature of sulfuric acid can increase its reactivity. Catalysts: Adding catalysts like vanadium pentoxide (V2O5) or platinum can enhance sulfuric acid's reactivity. Oxidizers: Adding oxidizers like hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) or potassium permanganate (KMnO4) can increase sulfuric acid's reactivity. Remember to handle sulfuric acid with caution, as it's a highly corrosive and hazardous substance. Always follow proper safety protocols and guidelines when working with it!
I once (ONCE!) used varnish and paint remover on wood in a bathroom. The bath was made from Fiberglass and the paint stripper got on to the bath. The result was Ooopsie! I nearly put a hole in my bath!
Of couse, the "special sauce" is concentrated hydrogen peroxide, mixed with sulfuric acid gives a "piranha solution". Nasty stuff, good for cleaning organic...residue.
"Pirania" solution should be used AFTER SLOWLY mixing ingredients, becose added in that way thay notwhole mixed one ingredient has bigger density that second so only little of mixture on that movie is really mixed... when pirania is maked good after disolving material liquid is clean and transparent, that what we see is effect of separate work of ingredient, "pirania" in use is hot but NEVER should boil... and one more thing "pirania" work weaker and weaker in time so you would not disolve whole body, there always stay some bones
i love how initially Jamie wasn't too thrilled about working with someone like Adam but at this point they have become unlikely allies and Adam can make Jamie laugh. i respect the heck outta both of them and i consider both of them one of my heroes and i like to think this job has helped Jamie come out of his shell a tad and if Adam can make Jamie laugh you know Adam really has won him over cuz Jamies skepticism is one of his finest qualities but i think he extends some trust to Adam at this point to help him be more open minded and laugh off some of the tension that usually comes with skepticism (sorry about the giant run-on sentences writing buffs)
The process of enhancing sulfuric acid’s reactivity by adding an oxidizing agent is commonly known as “supercharging.” In this Mythbusters episode, they used a “special sauce” of hydrogen peroxide; which is a strong oxidizer, also referred to as “Piranha Solution”.
Dry wall is called dry wall for a reason 🤣 when it gets wet or liquid is present around it, it soaks it up like a sponge and falls apart which is why your house has to be stripped out and re furbished after a flood or water has gone through the walls.
Special SAUS is that 2 hydrogen atoms + 2 oxygen atoms = dihydrogen dioxide, more commonly known as hydrogen peroxide. The combination with sulfuric acid is known as piranha solution is that that?
I love how this deep high-intensity character drama, is introduced in the Voiceover like a Saturday Moring Cartoon. "Follow Jesse and Walt as they drop into the craaaaazy world of organized crime. These two get up to all sorts of high jinx ."
Yeah, the fulminate was busted since there was no agitator that would cause a minute frictional burst once it was thrown. In the series, the fulminate was supposedly a crystal, where as, in MB, it was in powder form.
is it me or did they add a little something something with the mercury fulminate at 40:39 you can clearly see the bags of MF on the right and a cylinder on the left not just a squib
funfact : old Chemist in germany tried out to reproduze the cristal meth out of breaking bad , was successful, but got noticed by the police. he got released after it was confirmed that he had no intention of selling it
'Fun' Fact: in Afghanistan ISIS mostly closed down all opium production and switched to growing ephedra. Ephedra is a plant that is used to make crystal meth which is mostly sold ion eastern Europe. The EMCDDA has a great report about this.
ISIS? You mean the Taliban? Much to the dismay of big pharmaceutical corporations, for whom opium is a highly valuable resource and Afghanistan is the producer of 80% of the world's opium. And that also at a time when the opioid crisis was starting to form in the US. I've heard of soldiers having to guard poppy seed fields after the invasion... makes you wonder.
Also, being a Breaking Bad special, how about watching someone use ice for the first time? Having heard so much about it, fortunately from the relative safe distance of across the pond, I've always wondered why all that use it rave about it so much. I mean, to turn a God fearing, church going sinless, purer than the driven snow, into someone who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose within days, has to be quite a substance. I pray it never reaches these shores. I have enough on my plate as it is!?!
They disappointed me. When I saw the episode, I knew the reaction. These guys failed to reproduce the actual conditions. They set a tub on a wooden floor. They didn't make a point of it, but they had to seal the drain with something, The drain fitting is typically chrome plated brass. In either HF of "Super Sauce" the brass would have gone quickly. The acid+ would have leaked out of tub in the space formerly occupied by the drain fixture. The cellulose fibre in the wood would have resisted a bit. The floor would have busted through and the fully intact tub with mostlly intact body would have dropped.The Mercury Fulminate needed to be recrystallized, using a solvent mixture and a dark place to sit undisturbed.takes time to grow large crystals. They must have a good production budget. They don't skimp on things.
HF also corrodes fiberglass better than the solution they used. im guessing due to the toxicity of HF it wouldve been extremely difficult for the production crew to obtain many gallons of it and thats why they switched to piranha solution
Also he threw the F Mercury away from him, not at his toes so even if it had gone off for M.B it would have done way more damage to fake walt than it would have done to show walt
Can't tell if they did the acid test right since they kept saying hydrochloric acid instead of hydrofluoric acid. You can buy HCL in the hardware store and it's not that bad. Granted, you're not gonna get 99.99% purity but still, not the same thing. Heck, your stomach produces HCL. The hydrofluoric acid on the other hand IS really toxic though, and I've seen some real nasty orange fumes in some reactions.
The "special sauce" might be hydrogen peroxide. With sulfuric acid, it forms piranha solution which can dissolve organic materials to water and carbon dioxide.
34:33 i noticed a funny detail. Aaron had to wear his shirt inside out, i guess there is some sort of copyrighted material there or something. it looks like there is Darth Vader on the shirt lol
hydrogen peroxide will turbo charge any acid, so likely that is what he is adding to it. especially since his "special sauce" is 30% adds weight to that assumption as 30% concentration is common for reagent grade H2O2.
"Inside the tub was sulfuric acid and our special sauce, which, let's just say is lots og hydrogen and oxygen." ... Lots og hydrogen and oxygen... They really kept that secret sauce very secret xD
Yeah, it's just piranha solution. Sulphuric acid and H2O2. I've made a much more concentrated version of it before, since they seemingly used diluted acid and H2O2.
I think they did it wrong with the explosives do to the impact of the powder together instead of a crystal impacting. The colliding of the crystal may make the explosion work without the shock rocks. But I don't think the crystal should explode with as much power do to the same thing that happens with gun powder (fine = fast bang) (course = slow bang)
They missed a trick there. The tub was old and used so probably had scratches through the gell coat which would allow the acid mix to attack the fiber mesh and resin.
They also didn't bother adding an entire ounce bag of the stuff on the desk either. If it was crystallized and not powdered and not in a bag and instead the raw crystals being thrown onto the ground it would be a totally different scenario
Aw, they didn't check if you can kickstart van engine with 6 homemade batteries... Edit: the description has mistake: it says hydrochloric acid, but in movie (as well as in Mythbusters) they used hydrofluoric acid.
i love how at 5:30 Jamie is putting the dishes with the material onto a tray one by one. Why not put all the dishes onto the tray and load the tray with all of it on it in one go? O wait, yeah, time filler, hollywood.
as a big fan of mythbusters but who also wouldnt wanna sit through lots of boring parts in breaking bad, i have barely seen a single episode of one while i've seen tons of the other and as very often, the experiments in mythbusters do not match what i call "the cleanliness factor". remember when they experimented with pyramids and sawed through an apple and it seemed to show results just based on that alone? well, same here except the other way around: the breaking bad scene with the bathtub plays in some decrepit house. seeing as it still has a bathtub instead of a much cheaper shower, it must be especially old and not just built shoddily, but actually decently after which it became what we can see. the fact that all of this happened instead of it being kept up well should also pretty much guarantee the weakest and cheapest bathtub available being used, as otherwise the owners wouldve most likely paid more attention to it, so in that aspect they had it correctly in the end with glass fiber. one thing that was definitely not correct is that the bathtub was practically in pristine condition. as anyone would be able to attest to who has used an old, weak bathtub, this is never the case. if you rent, this is almost guaranteed. so the bathtubs wouldve been damaged in some ways. this could be thin, superficial tears in the material, but also some slightly deeper holes and maybe a sagging middle part where someone especially heavy may have just tripped and landed on that one time when there was a little too much soap in there and they didnt pay attention. again, i've seen this so many times before at so many people's places (as everyone around here rents), that i'm genuinely surprised how they didnt add this edge to the acid working its magic. a larger surface wouldve helped the reaction by default, but also the damage to the surface wouldve gotten rid of the most difficult part and made the material thinner. i think a good place for them to start wouldve been to get a used bathtub in rough shape and then banged it up some more. it was a drug lord's hideout, afterall, from what i can tell. then the floor. same idea, way too good condition. such a floor wouldve had various small holes and countless little cuts and grooves which wouldve really helped the acid work. also, maybe use more rotten wood? those have some air gaps often and are weaker, too, so a bathtub that was filled to the brim with enough acid dissolve 70kg of pork couldve weighed down more upon it to break through. ps: in the series it seems that the wrong kind of acid was used, as a massive chunk of flesh fell down, whereas the other materials were much more damaged, i'm not a chemist, but is it possible that there's an acid or base that would achieve sth much more close to that? i get that piranha solution makes for an awesome effect, but maybe it was sth else entirely. aqua regia is well known to dissolve gold and is made of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid, though quite different, it's pretty easy for a chemistry teacher like walter white to produce in copious amounts, i think. and while i know very little of the topic, judging by the fact that the myth busters team arent using it on the pork but piranha solution, i will assume that it works pretty badly with organic stuff like meat and MAYBE better with other things? but again, i'm talking out of my hinie right now. or maybe there's an acid that excels at eating through wood that would be a realistic option?
@@laughingoutloud5742 yeah i think thats correct. im aussie and have most of the time over here I've heard it pronounce eye-oh-dean and considering Australian pronunciation generally follows UK instead of US pronunciation that sounds about right. however it seems to be a bit more fluid then something like tomato so u sometimes hear it the other way
I don't know this is just a theory and I'm no chemist but with the whole explosion thing perhaps in the process of crystallizing it is condensed and Walt had accounted for that.
Chlorine Trifluoride can likely do the job of passing thru the bathtub, and disintegrate the pig, the issue is the rest of the building won't survive the heat, and is way too dangerous to handle.
This is complete and utter bollocks..you put the fulminated mercury in a bag on purpose. Walt threw the raw material not in a bag that exploded with the rest in the bag on Tucos desk. You didn't bother testing that though did you
FM powder and chrystals must react different. Powder must soften its own impact. Like a matress. Or spunge. Now compare that to a crystal, the impact will be so much harder. Like throwing a piece of metal compared to the spunge. Imagine throwing both on the ground.
I thought it is Breaking Bath. They are wasting a hell of a lot of time on some faulty bath and a ceiling. In reality that piece of bath would simply get stuck in the metal grid of such a ceiling. It is all as fake as you can get it. Why did people stay home for this? For real?
I've never recovered from Breaking Bad. It ruined tv for me because there was nothing else to watch, besides Vikings...and that turned to shit after Ragnar died imo. GOT was traumatic as well as the last few seasons sucked monkey balls too lol
Das Quecksilberfulminat wäre beim werfen explodiert, wenn es große Kristalle gewesen wären anstatt Pulver! es wird als Pulver hergestellt, weil große Kristalle viel zu empfindlich auf Schlag oder Reibung reagieren!
I’m supprised that Mythbusters guys are actually lacking a lot of knowledge about chemistry. I think they were trying to make ”king water” but they infact used the wrong acid. Also, sulphuric acid is much more effective as diluted. However, I understand that for this show, they might be little bit miss leading the viewer, so people don’t start to play with these things. Don’t get me wrong. I really like this show 👌
Kings.water or aqua regia isnt that good at dissolving organic matter while what they made piranha solution will disintigrate anything organisatie with carbon and H2O2 and sulfuric acid is cheaper and easier to get than nitric acid
@@danielbrakenhoff1 …if I can be a little bit of annoying besserwisser, on this 😁 …aqua regia used to be the strongest known acid, and it has it’s name from ability to dissolve even gold, which is one of the known most non reactive materials in the world. Aqua regia works on organic material pretty well, but I can’t argue about it, is it the fastest acid, How ever it is pretty effective on pretty much anything. Why I was suspecting that they wanted to make aqua regia, when Adam said ”30%”. Although, if they would been use nitric plus SO4, they would pretty much make that pig in to a ”dynamite”. I guess it is not a secret in online, that aqua regia is made of HCL and H2NO3. …Btw, I didn’t mention this earlier in my comments, but mercury fulminate can be actually crystallised, but in that case it is made with different method. As in crystallised form, it is even more sensitive, and would work as Walter used it. It was used as a primary explosive in old days, but it was too sensitive. The explosion is very fast but the temperature it produces is lower than many other, so it makes a very loud noise but the ”destructive” effect is not that strong. However, even 50 grams in crystal form is extremely dangerous to handle, and it is still pretty much same effect than exploding same amount of rifle gun powder or half of it’s weight in dynamite. Any explosives are illegal to produce, and even experts has to know all the parts of the process carefully, so doesn’t create unwanted exothermic reactions in the middle of the process, and cause the whole thing to blow up. It is not only about the knowledge of chemistry. Always need to know the whole process.
I don't know if this makes Braking Bad older than I thought or the Mythbusters younger than I thought, but in my head, these shows are like 8years apart
I think breaking bad aired in 2008
Was the last really good show
@@dlfrestorationyou could try the expanse i love this one
@@dlfrestoration if you think breaking bad was last good show since 08 you need to stop waiting to be spoonfed content. There are SO MANY fantastic series and movies. Breaking bad was without a doubt one of the best series ever made, but its not the first, last or best imho, it just reminded people what a good story CAN be.
@@KUB-KOB everything since has been woke rubbish sadly
I’m disappointed they didn’t test the production of crystal meth, and the actual quality of the result 😁🤷🏼♂️
I‘m sure they did before the actual myths that made it in the episode
Well, because it's a federal offense mainly 😂 Pretty sure it's one of those things that even pharmaceutical companies aren't even allowed to make
@@spran369 methamphetamin?
Pharmaceutical companies do make methamphetamin as medicition
As example for ADHD and narcolepsy, even for children
The last years it‘s used more often again legally
No no you missed something 🫢 The actual myth is if blue meth is an indicator of pureness! spoiler: it’s not … meth is natural white so you would make it blue by adding impurities 🫨 Myth : BUSTED💥
@@spran369pharmaceutical companies are allowed to produce it and they do
It‘s a used medication for ADHD as example, even for kids
Methbusters
All these years and that pun never occured to me 😐
Yes. Quite.
More like Methbursters!
Thank you
r/Angryupvote worthy comment
48:31 Just realised that the names in the end credits all got the Periodic Table treatment. Nice little detail for the Breaking Bad Special.
at 9:53 they also did the "sped-up landscape" shot, just like in breaking bad
The "secret acid" is Piranha Solution btw -
It's made with 3 parts of concentrated sulfuric acid and 1 part of 30% hydrogen peroxide solution, same ratio used in this episode.
It's so dangerous that just mixing it too quickly can cause it to boil and even explode
Yup, peroxymonosulfuric acid
yeah, when they said "the solution is a lot of hydrogen and oxygen" i figure it out it's hydrogen peroxide.
thanks , now i can dispose corpse .
there was an episode of csi vegas where the killer died because they mixed piranha solution to fast
That's what I figured out as well from "lots of Hydrogen and Oxygen". Deduced rather. Not really that many ways these 2 can bond in order to satisfy "the Ultimate Theatrical Effect" requirement the duo has consistently made their trademark...
For those of you who want to know what the secret sauce was, it's Hydrogen Peroxide and with sulfuric acid it forms "Piranha solution". At 18:27 on the left jug they didn't censor the "Hydrogen Peroxide" written on there.
I saw that too
Jamie literally revealed it to the smart at 46:50 🤣
@@IanSelvaraj Lots of hydrogen and oxygen could also be just water and nonetheless it was just a little thing I noticed and thought was a tad funny.
Piranha solution is a well known dissolving agent anyway
They almost said it at the end "consists of lots of hydrogen and oxygen " . Though I believe bleach instead of perox. would have done the job
"why? well here's Adam on acid" cought me so off guard💀💀13:39
One of my favorites Mythbusters episode, so glad you guys uploaded it
Lmao the part with the 3 others always end up the same :
"So the myth didnt work, so instead we're using C4"
36:28
The most common material for bathtubs and shower tubs in *Not America* is enamel-coated steel. For toilet bowls and bathroom sinks, that would be porcelain.
I'm honestly not sure why I was surprised by fiber glass apparently being more common in America, seeing how the people there have seemingly never heard of concrete walls and double-paned windows, which are standards in Europe.
They should have scratched the bottom of tub (like a old used bathtube) , so the acid could corrode it .amazing reaction anyway
yeah. vitreous ceramic that hasn't had any wear is going to resist almost anything
yep beaten up tub, maybe partially rotten floor, also it should have had plumbing (old rusted iron pipes)
I am sure Tuco had his office professionally cleaned after the blast to remove the fine mercury dust. Would not want any long-term brain damage leading to unpredictable behavior during drug deals. Everyone should stay relaxed and focused during those.
😅😅😅👍
Vince retconning the show on another show is highly amusing.
Having been a mineral and metallurgical assayer in my past life, I worked with various chemicals, however the one that needed total attention whilst handling is Hydrofluoric Acid used digest quartz, silicates and silicon metal (metalloid) and heated in special high temperature resistant teflon beakers. HF is the one acid that can be very fatal if handled without strict training and the use of proper PPE.
As for the special sauce used with the Sulphuric (Sulfuric) H2SO4 acid bath, and if I heard correctly towards the end of the video the sauce is made up of H202 Hydrogen Peroxide which definitely got the violent super heated reaction going.
Rest In Peace Grant ❤
It's been how long now? Fock, get over it
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It's been how long now? Fock, get over it
HF is actually a weak acid by definition and not as corrosive as strong acids such as Hydrochloric (HCl), however, corrosivity is the least hazardous aspect of HF. The toxicity of HF is the main concern. HF is absorbed through the skin quickly and is a severe systemic toxin.
Many years ago I worked in a lab that used HF in their research and it was kept in plastic because it corroded glass and its toxic properties were what made us respect the horrid stuff.
Yeah, as demonstrated by the drywall's plaster, HF is a BIG calcium fan, and that includes the calcium in your bones.
@@nerd_nato564bone hurting juice
@@danielbrakenhoff1 Pretty much. That's probably the best description for HF.
What if???:
1) They could do mercury fulminate something more rigid, when they throw against the wall or floor the deformation of that solid MF will cause a better reaction, it was just a powder, and you have to remember that Tuco's place was made of concrete.
2) Considering that Jesse's house was not a new house, i could bet if that bathtub could be scratched or broken, that scratch could be enough to the special sauce and acid penetrates very good and dissolve it. and as an old house maybe the wet environment under the bathtub could be the best place to drain all that dissolved matter.
Note: obviously Vince Gilligan didn’t put exact proportions not to promote people to do it in real life, like the meth they didn't show the exact formula.
RIP Grant, this show was a huge part of my childhood. It was an awesome way to learn cool thing's growing up.
Dam didn’t know he died
@@djdeemz7651 That was the main reason show was stopped
@@Hyleyswas it related to the show?
@@ooltimu not at all
@@Hyleys it wasn't.
This show's narrator doesn't get enough credit, very nostalgic.
Wooden walls take more in of the shockwave, then brick, so it lowers the chances to blow out the windows. Also asking the specialist how the difference between the powder and crystal form could matter, next to it beign extremely hard to crystalize, would sound like an insteresting follow up on this vis.
I seem to recall someone said ( or I read) that a crystal of it at that size would spontaniously explode. Probbably long before it go to that size.
yeah if its that fragile during creation, then maybe it should've gone of when tuco's goons pressed it down while putting it on the desk.... but hey, maybe they will follow up :)
@@deadbydayinblackYeah I get why they didn't make the crystal. It probably would've been very risky.
At 17:15 into the video, the liquid in those bottles did not look like pure sulfuric acid. Concentrated sulfuric acid is very viscous. The thick (oil like) consistency is what gave sulfuric acid its other name, "oil of vitriol." Look it up.
If they used pure sulfuric acid, the pig flesh would almost instantly turn into black carbon, because the acid rips out water from the compounds in the flesh, thus leaving mainly carbon. You would also need a whole lot more acid to dissolve that much pork.
sulfuric acid can also be super saturated to something like 18 mol ..
@@bobthe7778 18 mol/L is concentraded not super saturated. It is the same as 96%
You can get 99.9% but it offgasses a lot. It is also less corrosive as the water helps the reactions take place.
Yeah, it also looks much more yellow. It also seems their definitely not peroxide was kinda meh, it didn't dissolve the carbon goop fast enough.
Breaking Bad - the most intense TV show I've ever seen to this day. Truly a classic masterpiece
Large crystals would be much more impact sensitive...
said its almost impossibe to make it to clear crystals
It would definitely be more likely to explode. 50g of it would not blow up a building though, and it would not leave people inside alive if it did. The crystals would also look nothing like they did in the show - you just can't make crystals of mercury fulminate that size (you'd get a few millimetres at best) and it's the wrong colour (closer to that powder's colour).
And purer too
@@slyfoxcoffee9642 I do think its impossible to make in crytallized form.
@@iiiuuj lmao no he didnt, he said its fairly complex
For anyone wondering the special sauce is hydrochloric acid the sol. Is called aquaregia can dissolve even inert metals likegold
34:54 Poor Jesse had to turn his t-shirt inside out because it had an image on it the producers didn’t like
That "maybe they should build us a writing robot" quote does not seem to be aging that well
Wdym ?
AI?
Ai can write better then 90% of humans
@@zedchillman2685 oh, a self-proven point
@@gianclgar that AI is a more effective tool to create media. Yes. Thank you.
Key to the fulminated mercury and other similar substances being too impact reactive is "screwing up" the process to create crystals (just don't, ever), not fine powder. They made it too perfectly.
To increase the reactivity or strength of sulfuric acid, some possible answers include:
Concentration: Increasing the concentration of sulfuric acid can enhance its reactivity.
Temperature: Raising the temperature of sulfuric acid can increase its reactivity.
Catalysts: Adding catalysts like vanadium pentoxide (V2O5) or platinum can enhance sulfuric acid's reactivity.
Oxidizers: Adding oxidizers like hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) or potassium permanganate (KMnO4) can increase sulfuric acid's reactivity.
Remember to handle sulfuric acid with caution, as it's a highly corrosive and hazardous substance. Always follow proper safety protocols and guidelines when working with it!
I once (ONCE!) used varnish and paint remover on wood in a bathroom. The bath was made from Fiberglass and the paint stripper got on to the bath. The result was Ooopsie! I nearly put a hole in my bath!
"we dont want anyone to know our 'special sauce' "
18:27 hydrogen peroxide 30% Cleanroom LP
Of couse, the "special sauce" is concentrated hydrogen peroxide, mixed with sulfuric acid gives a "piranha solution". Nasty stuff, good for cleaning organic...residue.
The scripting and over the top bad acting will never get old XD
"Pirania" solution should be used AFTER SLOWLY mixing ingredients, becose added in that way thay notwhole mixed one ingredient has bigger density that second so only little of mixture on that movie is really mixed... when pirania is maked good after disolving material liquid is clean and transparent, that what we see is effect of separate work of ingredient, "pirania" in use is hot but NEVER should boil... and one more thing "pirania" work weaker and weaker in time so you would not disolve whole body, there always stay some bones
i love how initially Jamie wasn't too thrilled about working with someone like Adam but at this point they have become unlikely allies and Adam can make Jamie laugh. i respect the heck outta both of them and i consider both of them one of my heroes and i like to think this job has helped Jamie come out of his shell a tad and if Adam can make Jamie laugh you know Adam really has won him over cuz Jamies skepticism is one of his finest qualities but i think he extends some trust to Adam at this point to help him be more open minded and laugh off some of the tension that usually comes with skepticism
(sorry about the giant run-on sentences writing buffs)
Jesse turning up in a t-shirt with a brand or logo so he has to wear it inside out.
The process of enhancing sulfuric acid’s reactivity by adding an oxidizing agent is commonly known as “supercharging.” In this Mythbusters episode, they used a “special sauce” of hydrogen peroxide; which is a strong oxidizer, also referred to as “Piranha Solution”.
25:47 "The Throwbot is ready to throw..." Yeah... Not with the axle bent hell out of shape! That's a 5 degree bend right there! 😄
Dry wall is called dry wall for a reason 🤣 when it gets wet or liquid is present around it, it soaks it up like a sponge and falls apart which is why your house has to be stripped out and re furbished after a flood or water has gone through the walls.
"The myth was busted"
"Actually in my minds eye the bathtub was made of cheese"
Kudos, Vince... Kudos...
Special SAUS is that 2 hydrogen atoms + 2 oxygen atoms = dihydrogen dioxide, more commonly known as hydrogen peroxide. The combination with sulfuric acid is known as piranha solution is that that?
I love how this deep high-intensity character drama, is introduced in the Voiceover like a Saturday Moring Cartoon.
"Follow Jesse and Walt as they drop into the craaaaazy world of organized crime. These two get up to all sorts of high jinx ."
Yeah, the fulminate was busted since there was no agitator that would cause a minute frictional burst once it was thrown. In the series, the fulminate was supposedly a crystal, where as, in MB, it was in powder form.
is it me or did they add a little something something with the mercury fulminate at 40:39 you can clearly see the bags of MF on the right and a cylinder on the left not just a squib
might be a canister of flammable gas to make the explosion look better for tv
funfact : old Chemist in germany tried out to reproduze the cristal meth out of breaking bad , was successful, but got noticed by the police.
he got released after it was confirmed that he had no intention of selling it
'Fun' Fact: in Afghanistan ISIS mostly closed down all opium production and switched to growing ephedra. Ephedra is a plant that is used to make crystal meth which is mostly sold ion eastern Europe. The EMCDDA has a great report about this.
ISIS? You mean the Taliban? Much to the dismay of big pharmaceutical corporations, for whom opium is a highly valuable resource and Afghanistan is the producer of 80% of the world's opium. And that also at a time when the opioid crisis was starting to form in the US. I've heard of soldiers having to guard poppy seed fields after the invasion... makes you wonder.
29:10 at this time if the robotic arm was misfired, then everybody in the room might have died not due to an explosion but a heart attack
That red painted ''explosion proof box'' (39:59) appears quite lightweight and turns out to be made of plywood. (40:14)
Enjoyed the show, though
Also, being a Breaking Bad special, how about watching someone use ice for the first time? Having heard so much about it, fortunately from the relative safe distance of across the pond, I've always wondered why all that use it rave about it so much. I mean, to turn a God fearing, church going sinless, purer than the driven snow, into someone who can suck a golf ball through a garden hose within days, has to be quite a substance. I pray it never reaches these shores. I have enough on my plate as it is!?!
They disappointed me. When I saw the episode, I knew the reaction. These guys failed to reproduce the actual conditions. They set a tub on a wooden floor. They didn't make a point of it, but they had to seal the drain with something, The drain fitting is typically chrome plated brass. In either HF of "Super Sauce" the brass would have gone quickly. The acid+ would have leaked out of tub in the space formerly occupied by the drain fixture. The cellulose fibre in the wood would have resisted a bit.
The floor would have busted through and the fully intact tub with mostlly intact body would have dropped.The Mercury Fulminate needed to be recrystallized, using a solvent mixture and a dark place to sit undisturbed.takes time to grow large crystals.
They must have a good production budget. They don't skimp on things.
HF also corrodes fiberglass better than the solution they used. im guessing due to the toxicity of HF it wouldve been extremely difficult for the production crew to obtain many gallons of it and thats why they switched to piranha solution
Also he threw the F Mercury away from him, not at his toes so even if it had gone off for M.B it would have done way more damage to fake walt than it would have done to show walt
Can't tell if they did the acid test right since they kept saying hydrochloric acid instead of hydrofluoric acid. You can buy HCL in the hardware store and it's not that bad. Granted, you're not gonna get 99.99% purity but still, not the same thing. Heck, your stomach produces HCL. The hydrofluoric acid on the other hand IS really toxic though, and I've seen some real nasty orange fumes in some reactions.
The "special sauce" might be hydrogen peroxide. With sulfuric acid, it forms piranha solution which can dissolve organic materials to water and carbon dioxide.
"This super secret ingredient that blows off yellow smoke"
Yeaaaah Chemistry nerds will have a pretty solid guess
Chemistry nerds who needed to dissolve a body: *ammoniacal laughter*
34:33 i noticed a funny detail.
Aaron had to wear his shirt inside out, i guess there is some sort of copyrighted material there or something.
it looks like there is Darth Vader on the shirt lol
Lol that's why u hate modern TV Shows
9:27 i thought he gona say " luckily we found a guy who knows a guy who know another guy" 😂
hydrogen peroxide will turbo charge any acid, so likely that is what he is adding to it. especially since his "special sauce" is 30% adds weight to that assumption as 30% concentration is common for reagent grade H2O2.
the special sauce is hydrogen peroxide, with the sulfuric acid together creates "aqua regia"
Small mistake H202 and sulfuric acid make piranha solition aqua regia is made with HCL and nitric acid
I love how Walt's head looks more like Tobias from Arrested development XD
Yeah, yeah, you call him Breaking Bad guy but we all know he's the cowboy from Pile o' Bullets!
say my name..
...you're mythbusters
you're god damn right
"Inside the tub was sulfuric acid and our special sauce, which, let's just say is lots og hydrogen and oxygen."
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Lots og hydrogen and oxygen... They really kept that secret sauce very secret xD
9:29 That's a lost chance to make a "I know a guy who knows a guy" reference
Anyone know what that special sauce used to ‘turbo charge’ the sulphuric acid? Asking for a friend that works for Boeing
H2O2
Leave Boeing alone
@@SinfullyHerau mean the enterprise that killed an employee that was about to expose the company? Sure.
@@luismagarinos3012 Yes, leave them alone, for your own safety.
Yeah, it's just piranha solution. Sulphuric acid and H2O2. I've made a much more concentrated version of it before, since they seemingly used diluted acid and H2O2.
I think they did it wrong with the explosives do to the impact of the powder together instead of a crystal impacting. The colliding of the crystal may make the explosion work without the shock rocks. But I don't think the crystal should explode with as much power do to the same thing that happens with gun powder (fine = fast bang) (course = slow bang)
"Special Sauce"
sounds like the title of a gum guzzling corn
but in the show they didn't wrap the crystals in the plastic bag. maybe plastic bag prevent enough friction and heat from reaching the substance.
oh my god ive been trying to watch this episode for yeaaaaaars tysm for uploading
The acid mystery solution was totally peroxide lol
They missed a trick there. The tub was old and used so probably had scratches through the gell coat which would allow the acid mix to attack the fiber mesh and resin.
Christalizing the mercury would make a difference to be honest.. A powder does work but it doesn't recreate the same reaction.
Yep, I too think, some big crystals would make a more rapid explosion than some powder. And would cause a bigger boom.
making crystals that size is impossible.
They also didn't bother adding an entire ounce bag of the stuff on the desk either. If it was crystallized and not powdered and not in a bag and instead the raw crystals being thrown onto the ground it would be a totally different scenario
Aw, they didn't check if you can kickstart van engine with 6 homemade batteries...
Edit: the description has mistake: it says hydrochloric acid, but in movie (as well as in Mythbusters) they used hydrofluoric acid.
The special sauce Jamie is talking about is 30% hydrogen peroxide so they can make piranha solution. It's super scary stuff.
Did Adam use galvanized square steel and eco friendly wood veneers when creating the bathroom?
i love how at 5:30 Jamie is putting the dishes with the material onto a tray one by one.
Why not put all the dishes onto the tray and load the tray with all of it on it in one go?
O wait, yeah, time filler, hollywood.
Without all the filler and repeating stuff they've already said, these episodes would only be 20 minutes long too xD
yeah, that i know. But be real: to fill it up with nonsense like that is a bit too much.
@@InevitableMayo
A charge under the tub even a firecracker
31:10 Well we finally have a writing robot, it's called AI
I just find it funny that Aaron paul has he t-shirt on inside out for a chunk near the end.
Imagine Adam on Acid talking about Acid
When he was going over the periodic table stuff, I remembered why I failed science 10 twice
TBF they used the crystallised version on the show. It may be more volatile
I'm disappointed they didn't test the magnet one
Magnets? As in from Season 5?
@@gaffer2602 ye
as a big fan of mythbusters but who also wouldnt wanna sit through lots of boring parts in breaking bad, i have barely seen a single episode of one while i've seen tons of the other and as very often, the experiments in mythbusters do not match what i call "the cleanliness factor". remember when they experimented with pyramids and sawed through an apple and it seemed to show results just based on that alone? well, same here except the other way around: the breaking bad scene with the bathtub plays in some decrepit house. seeing as it still has a bathtub instead of a much cheaper shower, it must be especially old and not just built shoddily, but actually decently after which it became what we can see. the fact that all of this happened instead of it being kept up well should also pretty much guarantee the weakest and cheapest bathtub available being used, as otherwise the owners wouldve most likely paid more attention to it, so in that aspect they had it correctly in the end with glass fiber. one thing that was definitely not correct is that the bathtub was practically in pristine condition. as anyone would be able to attest to who has used an old, weak bathtub, this is never the case. if you rent, this is almost guaranteed. so the bathtubs wouldve been damaged in some ways. this could be thin, superficial tears in the material, but also some slightly deeper holes and maybe a sagging middle part where someone especially heavy may have just tripped and landed on that one time when there was a little too much soap in there and they didnt pay attention. again, i've seen this so many times before at so many people's places (as everyone around here rents), that i'm genuinely surprised how they didnt add this edge to the acid working its magic. a larger surface wouldve helped the reaction by default, but also the damage to the surface wouldve gotten rid of the most difficult part and made the material thinner. i think a good place for them to start wouldve been to get a used bathtub in rough shape and then banged it up some more. it was a drug lord's hideout, afterall, from what i can tell. then the floor. same idea, way too good condition. such a floor wouldve had various small holes and countless little cuts and grooves which wouldve really helped the acid work. also, maybe use more rotten wood? those have some air gaps often and are weaker, too, so a bathtub that was filled to the brim with enough acid dissolve 70kg of pork couldve weighed down more upon it to break through.
ps: in the series it seems that the wrong kind of acid was used, as a massive chunk of flesh fell down, whereas the other materials were much more damaged, i'm not a chemist, but is it possible that there's an acid or base that would achieve sth much more close to that? i get that piranha solution makes for an awesome effect, but maybe it was sth else entirely. aqua regia is well known to dissolve gold and is made of nitric acid and hydrochloric acid, though quite different, it's pretty easy for a chemistry teacher like walter white to produce in copious amounts, i think. and while i know very little of the topic, judging by the fact that the myth busters team arent using it on the pork but piranha solution, i will assume that it works pretty badly with organic stuff like meat and MAYBE better with other things? but again, i'm talking out of my hinie right now. or maybe there's an acid that excels at eating through wood that would be a realistic option?
That is what they used
13:50 What is interesting to me: Why is Iodine not pronounced io-deen like all other halogens?
I believe it's the American pronunciation
@@laughingoutloud5742 yeah i think thats correct. im aussie and have most of the time over here I've heard it pronounce eye-oh-dean and considering Australian pronunciation generally follows UK instead of US pronunciation that sounds about right. however it seems to be a bit more fluid then something like tomato so u sometimes hear it the other way
I don't know this is just a theory and I'm no chemist but with the whole explosion thing perhaps in the process of crystallizing it is condensed and Walt had accounted for that.
15:10 it is probably hydrogen peroxide and they create pyranha solution
Heidelberg is running the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico 😅
where in my life did i miss the old team of mythbusters is back?
It's an old episode
Chlorine Trifluoride can likely do the job of passing thru the bathtub, and disintegrate the pig, the issue is the rest of the building won't survive the heat, and is way too dangerous to handle.
This is complete and utter bollocks..you put the fulminated mercury in a bag on purpose. Walt threw the raw material not in a bag that exploded with the rest in the bag on Tucos desk. You didn't bother testing that though did you
Thanks for uploading episode ❤🎉
i would have liked to see what thatbathtub with satanic sludge would have looked like after 8 hours staying like that
FM powder and chrystals must react different. Powder must soften its own impact. Like a matress. Or spunge. Now compare that to a crystal, the impact will be so much harder. Like throwing a piece of metal compared to the spunge. Imagine throwing both on the ground.
Should be called Methbusters for this special
The world was a better place when Breaking Bad was still running (probably not but atleast i had shit to distract myself)
I thought it is Breaking Bath. They are wasting a hell of a lot of time on some faulty bath and a ceiling. In reality that piece of bath would simply get stuck in the metal grid of such a ceiling. It is all as fake as you can get it. Why did people stay home for this? For real?
I've never recovered from Breaking Bad. It ruined tv for me because there was nothing else to watch, besides Vikings...and that turned to shit after Ragnar died imo. GOT was traumatic as well as the last few seasons sucked monkey balls too lol
Das Quecksilberfulminat wäre beim werfen explodiert, wenn es große Kristalle gewesen wären anstatt Pulver!
es wird als Pulver hergestellt, weil große Kristalle viel zu empfindlich auf Schlag oder Reibung reagieren!
vince seems like a cool guy.
There's no half measures but the show is full of half measures.
I love Mythbusters❤
Dude I thought this was a clickbait title and thumbnail. Actually scrolled past the first time I saw it. But it's real. That's nuts!
its close bud the sauce is KMG Electronic Chemicals 64022 Hydrogen Peroxide 30%, Cleanroom LP Grade, 1 Gallon
I’m supprised that Mythbusters guys are actually lacking a lot of knowledge about chemistry. I think they were trying to make ”king water” but they infact used the wrong acid. Also, sulphuric acid is much more effective as diluted. However, I understand that for this show, they might be little bit miss leading the viewer, so people don’t start to play with these things. Don’t get me wrong. I really like this show 👌
Kings.water or aqua regia isnt that good at dissolving organic matter while what they made piranha solution will disintigrate anything organisatie with carbon and H2O2 and sulfuric acid is cheaper and easier to get than nitric acid
@@danielbrakenhoff1 …if I can be a little bit of annoying besserwisser, on this 😁 …aqua regia used to be the strongest known acid, and it has it’s name from ability to dissolve even gold, which is one of the known most non reactive materials in the world. Aqua regia works on organic material pretty well, but I can’t argue about it, is it the fastest acid, How ever it is pretty effective on pretty much anything. Why I was suspecting that they wanted to make aqua regia, when Adam said ”30%”. Although, if they would been use nitric plus SO4, they would pretty much make that pig in to a ”dynamite”.
I guess it is not a secret in online, that aqua regia is made of HCL and H2NO3.
…Btw, I didn’t mention this earlier in my comments, but mercury fulminate can be actually crystallised, but in that case it is made with different method. As in crystallised form, it is even more sensitive, and would work as Walter used it. It was used as a primary explosive in old days, but it was too sensitive. The explosion is very fast but the temperature it produces is lower than many other, so it makes a very loud noise but the ”destructive” effect is not that strong. However, even 50 grams in crystal form is extremely dangerous to handle, and it is still pretty much same effect than exploding same amount of rifle gun powder or half of it’s weight in dynamite. Any explosives are illegal to produce, and even experts has to know all the parts of the process carefully, so doesn’t create unwanted exothermic reactions in the middle of the process, and cause the whole thing to blow up. It is not only about the knowledge of chemistry. Always need to know the whole process.