This is the best video I’ve found so far on how to actually dial in the delay pedal. Sooo many demo videos that supposedly show you everything a delay pedal can do. But they never show how to get any of the iconic sounds. Thanks for posting this.
You used a disaster transport as one of your examples! Great choice, I've had one since 2013 and it's never left my board. Excellent for solos and leads!
This is amazing - I used video of the second pedal to dial in my Keeley Cavern and it was sounded perfect! Yes, having a digital setup with multiple delays is more accurate, but our band rocked the house last night and the tone on Streets was perfect - Thank you!
Thanks so much for your comment! I'm really glad that you found my video helpful and that it helped you get the perfect sound for your band. I agree that having a digital setup with multiple delays is more accurate, but it's great to hear that you were able to get a great sound with the Keeley Cavern. That's a great pedal, and it's definitely capable of getting you close to the Edge's sound. I'm glad that you were able to rock the house last night! That's always the goal, and it's always great to hear when people are happy with the sound they're getting. Thanks again for your comment, and I'm glad that my video was able to help you out.
dude, you are awesome. ive seen guitar lessons on this song but they mever show their damn pedal! i was like damn i wish someone would show their pedal. i scroll down a bit and see a video just for it. youre the fuckin man
@@JulianDoe Showed it to my band the other day. My drummer is so good that during a jam session, I’d play with it on for a few minutes, then turn it off ... and then back on. And sure enough, he’s still on tempo!
True. When you rely so much on the delay to build your sound, you have to be precisely on time. Otherwise, every mistake will be a mistake mistake mistake mistak mista mist mis mi m m m
the whole thing has to be clicked because of the intro track to streets... delay catches you up anyway if you get a bit faster or slower, it's more forgiving than you think.
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I have a question about that 1 e + a 2 thing. How do you know you hit the a exactly on time? I tried it myself and I can sort of hear it and get it quite right, but do you have any tips or tricks for how I can be sure i get it right...?
Unfortunately the only tip I can give you is to practice a lot. start with a slow tempo. You can do some exercise like tapping only "e" or "+" or "a" or combinations like 1 and a, e and a, and so on. hope this helps.
Hi i have a digital delay dd7 boss Im trying to do dotted 8th and i cant do it any tips and tricks to do it my buddys have a tc electronic flasback and doing 8th dotted is simple on his pedal
Hi, Xagainst the flowx, the boss dd7 is more advanced respect to the dd3 I've used the video so you can follow the exact procedure that I've used with the dd3 but also you can use the analogue or the modulated delay to achieve a different sonic characteristic. The dd3 also has tap tempo that is a great feature that can help you to have a dotted eight delay without too many difficulties. The real trick is to listen and stick to the tempo of the metronome; the main mistake I make is to "follow" the delay and sync to it and lose the main tempo. Listen to the beat and identify the dotted eight, then start to work on the delay.
1) Set it to the 800ms setting. 2) Tap quarter notes using the onboard tap or an external tap-in pedal 3) Play quarter (or 8th or whatever notes correspond to the time signature if you get me) 4) It happens like magic In other words, the 800ms setting on the DD7 is the dotted 8 subdivision setting. It's automatic, the pedal does it for you. It should be in the manual. The DD7 is wonderful and has a few hidden features.
Hi, the Boss pedal in the video is a Boss DD3 (the old one not the new DD3T model) but you can apply the same concept to any delay pedal. What delay pedal do you have?
@@Lowered_Gadh Ok it should be even easier to get the dotted eight. Having access to the tap tempo (I think that you have to hold the on/off switch for few seconds) you can tap the dotted eight. Once you've established the main tempo of the tune, you can subdivide it into sixteen notes (1 e + a 2 e + a 3 e + a 4 e + a) and you have to tap on the 1, on the first a, on the second +, and on the third e. So if I change to the previous subdivision the tap it would be " TAP e + TAP 2 e TAP a 3 TAP + a 4 e + a " I usually do not tap more than four times cause it can be confusing cause the fifth tap is on the 4 and the sixth tap is on the "a" of the 4 so basically it's the same pattern of the first beat. I would use the modulate setting cause it's great. Let me know everything is clear.
It's basically a way to count the subdivision of a measure. Here's an example: Let's say that a piece of music is in 4/4. This means that there are 4 beats in each measure. A measure is a segment of time corresponding to a specific number of beats. Inside this measure you can subdivide the time in several ways: A whole note will represet the entire measure. So to count it you will say just " 1 " A Half note will represent half measure. So to count it you will say "1, 2" A quarter note will be a quarter of the measure or a half of the half note. To count it you will say "1, 2, 3, 4" A eight note is half of the quarter and can be counted as " 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and" A sixteen note is half of the eight note and divide the measure into four equal parts, we use "e" and "a" to count the subdivisions."1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a" In the video I'm using the "dotted eight". A dot after a note increases its duration by half of its original value. Half of an eighth note is a sixteenth note, therefore, a dotted eighth note equals an eighth note + a sixteenth note. In 4/4 time, if you're counting sixteenth notes (1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a ...), a dotted eighth note takes up the space of "1 e &". The "a" is the next sixteenth note. Since a dotted eighth equals an eighth plus a sixteenth, it's the same as three sixteenth notes played in a row. This can be helpful for visualizing the rhythm. To practice use a metronome and begin at a slow tempo. This will help you internalize the rhythm. I hope this helps
mainly the edge works with dotted eight. depending on the tempo of the song you can use this video to replicate the same procedure for other songs that requires dotted eight delay. if I'm right in god's country is 127 bpm so a dotted eight delay is 354 ms. so set the dd3 mode knob to 800 and raise the time until you reach the 354. you have to use your ears. every knob is different so the "position" of my knobs is irrelevant. adjust the feeback to have 3 or 4 repeats and the level to taste. for this song you should use a stereo system but if you don't have it you can use a slow tremolo after the delay with a low mix to simulate the stereo panning. hope this is helpful
Hi, Thawdar Myint Han I really appreciate your comment. It truly helps me to keep going in this UA-cam adventure. If you have any suggestion or request feel free to ask! Have a great day and stay safe!
Sorry, but I don't get it. Guess I'm just too dumb. I just don't see how you could do it without a metronome (and even with one, I'm not sure about that "1e+ a2" bit - what do those represent?. All I know is it's its the note value+ half of the value that the dot is applied to, which I think for dotted 1/8 means 3/16. Is that correct? Thank goodness my delays have subdivisions.
Hi Matt, as you can hear in the video I use a metronome to make the process clear but you can use whatever you want (i.e.: tap the foot, snap the fingers) to achieve the same result. 1 e + a is a common way to call the sixteenth: you have 1 (first sixteenth) e (second) + (third) a (fourth). As you should see, the "a" is where you want the first repeat to play. Yes, thank goodness many delays have subdivisions and makes life easier but some delay just don't and that's what this video is for. thanks for commenting and have a great day
@@JulianDoe O...kay...I don't have an internal metronome, my dude. Thanks for confusing me further. Thank you for your reply and have a great day :) Q: Why is Bono always on eBay? A: He still hasn't found what he's looking for.
Hi Grizz, Thanks for the comment. Actually, in the video, I've played the riff by ear and I don't know if it's the right tempo. lol btw the Boss DD3 is set to 800 but you will reach the 800ms only when the Time knob is all the way to the right. Basically, the mode knob sets the range of the time knob; in this case, it goes from 200ms to 800ms. That's why I had to go by ears. Bad it's a little more complicated: it's a double delay: 1/8 dotted and a slapback. If your delay has the possibility to set the milliseconds you have to do some maths. Bpm is beats for a minute so to transform a minute in milliseconds: 1 min = 60sec = 60000ms. As far as I remember Bad is around 100bpm so you have to do 60000/bpm to find the ms per beat. So we have 60000/100 = 600ms per beat that means that our 1/4 is at 600ms. and we can easily calculate that 1/8 is 300bpm and 1/16 is 150bmp. The dotted eight is basically 3/16 so you have to do 150bpm x 3 = 450bpm. For the slapback you can go by ear but if you want you can think about it like a 1/16 dotted = 1/16+1/32 = 150+75 = 225bpm. When the streets have no name has a similar approach with one delay at 3/16 (dotted eight) and 9/32 (dotted eight + dotted sixteen) I don't remember the exact tempo of the song but I think it's around 120bpm. You do the math now. lol. Pride instead has only one delay 3/16 but you can add a 1/4 delay with 4 repeats and a darker tone to have an extra texture. I think Pride is 110bpm. Let me know if it's all clear.
@@JulianDoe this is great start Julian, how much feedback and level we should apply?, on Pride the second delay is not clear, it should be 429ms as the first delay? and 4 repeats you mean feeback or 1/4?, thanks for your great help
@@fert9825 with analog units you can't set a precise number of milliseconds. You have to use your ears. Don't think about the record think about your band. They will react to your playing no matter the number of milliseconds you're on. It is your duty to stay in time with yourself and your delay setting during the entire song without pushing or pulling. The band will (and has to) follow your time, in situations like this. 4 repeats means that the delayed note repeats 4 times. Some delay calls it repeats, other feedback, regeneration, sustain. I had an old russian delay that calls it return. 1/4 is the subdivision that it's generally part of the time configuration. It depends on the bpm of the song. for your consideration: 1 BPM = 60 seconds = 60,000 milliseconds this means that 60,000/BPM = 1 beat (measured in milliseconds) so you can go back and forth calculating the time based on both bpm and milliseconds. As a reference: At 120 BPM 1/4 = 500ms 1/8 dotted = 3/4 = 375ms 1/8 = 250ms 1/16 = 125ms
@@jasonsurf100 the carbon copy deluxe has the dotted eight setting that makes your life easier (and this video useless lol). match the tempo of the song you're playing with the tap and you're ready to go. Remember to have a great 8dot delay it's very important "how" you play. fast and sharp attack on the notes and precise timing are crucial.
The mode knob/selector affects the range of Time knob. The Mode selector has 4 modes: S.50ms, M.200ms, L.800ms and Hold. The delay time changes from 12.5ms to 50ms when the mode selector is in the S.50ms position, from 50ms to 200ms when the mode selector is in the M.200ms position, from 200ms to 800ms 50ms when the mode selector is in the L.800ms position. In Hold mode, the D.Time knob controls the repetition time of the hold sound from 200ms to 800ms. Let me know if everything is clear or if you need more help. Have a great day and stay safe!
@@JulianDoe i see, so the mode basically adjusts the range of the time knob? Thanks! I was just curious because i ordered a dd8 for my birthday which doesn't have time intervals under the mode, instead it has different effects. Thanks very much for the reply!
@@sledge2742 the dd8 is slightly different. The Mode knob changes the type of delay (analog, tape, etc). Every mode has a range 20ms - 800ms except reverse (300-500) shim (200-800) glt (10-400) and the loop (40s mono / 20s stereo) you can also double the length of the delays if you plug your guitar in the input A and you plug your amplifier only in the output B (nothing plugged in input B and Output A). Happy Birthday!
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Everything is clearly explained in the video. If you don't find it useful, I'm sorry. I'll try to do better next time.
@@JulianDoe yeah... The strymon is an amazing unit, But on my pedalboard real estate comes at a premium. Anything i need is either on the flashback, or i can toneprint it. So as much as i like the timeline, it would be a wasted on my board.itd be like needing a forklift but buying a crane, you know.like i said my knowlage of delays is not as strong as id like, and dialing a decent sounding echo is something ive learned how to do in the last maybe 4 years or so.before that i just "played" the delays id hear.honestly if i were to purchase anything by strymon itd be the reverb. I have an hof 2 but as cool as it is, its finicky about half of the presets are identical to the others. And how is reverse reverb not included on it? Keep up the good work on the channel.guess i owe you a subscription now...lulz
@@earlycuyler2295 absolutely. when planning a pedalboard you should consider how big it will be, its weight, and how the pedals interact with each other and with your style of playing. Flashback (normal and mini) are great sounding and, honestly, I don't see much difference between the two in terms of sound. Personally, I prefer something with more imperfections but that's a matter of taste. In my intentions, this video is meant to be a chapter in "understanding the delay" and going beyond the presets and analyze the process. About the reverb, the blue sky and the big sky are incredible, but if your problem is the real estate I can suggest you the earthquaker dispatch master (delay and reverb in an mxr stlyle pedal) or the boss rv (I have the 2 and I love it but the 5 is also very good). Well, if you would like to subscribe it would be awesome. It's a small channel about me, and my music and where I try to do my best to share the things I learn or to demonstrate the things I've got. Right now I'm testing some software but in the next weeks, I would like to post a quick demo of all my pedals and some tips, tricks, how to use it and some experiment.
@@JulianDoe Fair enough lol. I regret selling my Disaster Transport Jnr even though I have two great real analog delays. There's something about it, just worked great with everything I threw at it. I just bought a modded SD-1 and am having a muffin & a bag of cashews for dinner. #GASisReal #brokestguitarist
Way overthinking this. Use your ear. Like Edge did. Like we did 35 years ago if we were trying to play that stuff. Those who never got it then, will never get it now, even with the full analysis. The thing most people are mystified by, is how you get the modulation with delay, and slight bending, and create that chorus effect and "tone" that Edge got. Just play with a delay a while for God's sake! And try a Memory Man if you cant figure out how to modulate your notes. If you have to do math and engineering to figure this out, then you are done already. Don't even start.
I think you're taking this the wrong way. Yes, "use your ears" is always great advice (in fact is what this video is all about - using analog devices means that you have to use your ear to achieve the sound and not rely on presets or a numerical display) because it opens your perception and allows you to explore new sounds. But when you have to translate your achievement in a recording situation and when you have to achieve the same exact sound in every gig that's when settings and "do the math" comes handy. Especially when the delay is the main part of the rhythm and the tempo of the song (so that your entire band depends on it) you have to set it up in the fastest way it's possible. So, what I'm showing here it's a way to reverse-engineering the dotted eight sound to help people to spend less time figuring out "how to do it" and more making music. And I believe it's a good thing. I hope that the people who look at my video feel inspired to pick up their instrument and play. I'm trying to help and encourage my audience to make music. There's too much negativity all around and I know that some guys, especially beginners, can be thrown off by people that say to give up, that they're "done already" and "don't even start". I've been there. Not only when I was a beginner but also when the CTS stroke me, severely affecting my playing. That negativity hurts and can deeply affect the life of a person. I believe that more experienced musician have moral obligations to stay positive and try to find the best way to help people to make music.
@@JulianDoe Sorry bro. Just gettin old. You are right. Also, reverse engineering is the way I have made my living for the past ten years. Only not in music. Unfortunately. I should stop posting on these after certain alterations. Peace.
@@capgage1 No worries. Feel free to post your opinions everywhere. Comparing and contrasting opinions can only improve us as a human being. Have a great day and stay safe!
This is the best video I’ve found so far on how to actually dial in the delay pedal. Sooo many demo videos that supposedly show you everything a delay pedal can do. But they never show how to get any of the iconic sounds. Thanks for posting this.
Glad it was helpful! Yes, I should do more videos like this one. Thanks for the suggestion!
It's completely wrong to say that the edge only uses dotted eighth delay, because it varies wildly.
You used a disaster transport as one of your examples! Great choice, I've had one since 2013 and it's never left my board. Excellent for solos and leads!
yes I've always loved the disaster series
just realized how hard it is to play this live especially since bands to play a tad bit faster than usual when playing live
yes, you have to be really precise and keep everybody at the same tempo. Follow the first 3 rules of a musician and you can's go wrong!
Or get a pedal with tap tempo and time divisions like a Memory Boy Deluxe.
Lay off the coke.
This is amazing - I used video of the second pedal to dial in my Keeley Cavern and it was sounded perfect! Yes, having a digital setup with multiple delays is more accurate, but our band rocked the house last night and the tone on Streets was perfect - Thank you!
Thanks so much for your comment! I'm really glad that you found my video helpful and that it helped you get the perfect sound for your band. I agree that having a digital setup with multiple delays is more accurate, but it's great to hear that you were able to get a great sound with the Keeley Cavern. That's a great pedal, and it's definitely capable of getting you close to the Edge's sound.
I'm glad that you were able to rock the house last night! That's always the goal, and it's always great to hear when people are happy with the sound they're getting. Thanks again for your comment, and I'm glad that my video was able to help you out.
dude, you are awesome. ive seen guitar lessons on this song but they mever show their damn pedal! i was like damn i wish someone would show their pedal. i scroll down a bit and see a video just for it. youre the fuckin man
Thank you so much. I'm glad the video is helpful. Happy Holidays.
Omg. This TOTALLY WORKS PERFECTLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Glad you like it. You're welcome!
@@JulianDoe Showed it to my band the other day. My drummer is so good that during a jam session, I’d play with it on for a few minutes, then turn it off ... and then back on. And sure enough, he’s still on tempo!
@@cheftekard7165 I'm glad that this is helpful!. Feel free to promote your band here.
Just realised the Edge has to play exactly in time live. The delay is kind of like an organic metronome.
True. When you rely so much on the delay to build your sound, you have to be precisely on time. Otherwise, every mistake will be a mistake mistake mistake mistak mista mist mis mi m m m
My guess is that they probably play to a click track, but yeah, he still has to have really good timing or else it turns into a mess
@@TriteNight1218 Imagine how good their drummer has to be.
When he uses these delays as they are fixed, they actually play exactly in time with him
the whole thing has to be clicked because of the intro track to streets... delay catches you up anyway if you get a bit faster or slower, it's more forgiving than you think.
How can a tape machine echoplex do dotted 8th notes? you set the tape machine echoplex delay time to the "A" against the metronome BPM tempo?
Yes in theory you should be able to align the echo delay lever to the dotted eighth
I think that solo in 2:33 is Nigel hendroff of hillsong's solo.am I correct 👍
Don't tell anyone or the copyright god of youtube will strike down my videos ⚡🤖⚡
Wow such a great video and this answers a question I’ve had for awhile now! Thanks a bunch!
Thank you! I'm glad you appreciate it. Have a great day!
Thank you!
I have that exact EQD and this helped me a lot
you're welcome! I love the disaster. I've had all the version but this is my favourite and it couples wonderfully with the dispatch master.
Really well explained, thank you.
I'm glad you like it. I hope this is helpful. Thanks for watching!
Thank you soooo much!!! It saved my life
wow I didn't expect to save lives when I've made the video. lol. Glad you like it!
@@JulianDoe I was about to gone mad
@@aslihana lol
Perfect !!!!
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Why don’t they just put an ‘edge’ microswitch on delay pedals that defaults to this dotted 8th thing?
LOL actually most delays have a dotted eight function. The point of the video is to show how to do it without.
I have a question about that 1 e + a 2 thing. How do you know you hit the a exactly on time? I tried it myself and I can sort of hear it and get it quite right, but do you have any tips or tricks for how I can be sure i get it right...?
Unfortunately the only tip I can give you is to practice a lot. start with a slow tempo. You can do some exercise like tapping only "e" or "+" or "a" or combinations like 1 and a, e and a, and so on. hope this helps.
It works out at 8 repeats for every 6 beats .. that’s how I do it, make subtle changes til the 8th repeat is bang on the 6th beat
Hi i have a digital delay dd7 boss
Im trying to do dotted 8th and i cant do it any tips and tricks to do it my buddys have a tc electronic flasback and doing 8th dotted is simple on his pedal
Hi, Xagainst the flowx, the boss dd7 is more advanced respect to the dd3 I've used the video so you can follow the exact procedure that I've used with the dd3 but also you can use the analogue or the modulated delay to achieve a different sonic characteristic. The dd3 also has tap tempo that is a great feature that can help you to have a dotted eight delay without too many difficulties. The real trick is to listen and stick to the tempo of the metronome; the main mistake I make is to "follow" the delay and sync to it and lose the main tempo. Listen to the beat and identify the dotted eight, then start to work on the delay.
@@JulianDoe sounds good ill give it a try thanks man
@@xanarieseraphim great! let me how it goes. if you need help let me know I'll do my best to help you
@@JulianDoe thank you very very much man really appreciate it :)
1) Set it to the 800ms setting.
2) Tap quarter notes using the onboard tap or an external tap-in pedal
3) Play quarter (or 8th or whatever notes correspond to the time signature if you get me)
4) It happens like magic
In other words, the 800ms setting on the DD7 is the dotted 8 subdivision setting. It's automatic, the pedal does it for you. It should be in the manual. The DD7 is wonderful and has a few hidden features.
Gold.
Thank You!
Great job
Glad you like it!
Thank you! Now I know how it's done! great video!
you're welcome!
Can you do the same with all Boss Delays? Or just the DD3
you can use any delay you want.
thank you
You're welcome
It just so beautiful :( thx for this tips
Thank You Fa Rafaa. I'm glad you've found this video useful. Have a great day!
What boss pedal did you use?
Hi, the Boss pedal in the video is a Boss DD3 (the old one not the new DD3T model) but you can apply the same concept to any delay pedal. What delay pedal do you have?
@@JulianDoe thanks for your prompt reply really appreciate it. My boss is dd7
@@Lowered_Gadh Ok it should be even easier to get the dotted eight. Having access to the tap tempo (I think that you have to hold the on/off switch for few seconds) you can tap the dotted eight. Once you've established the main tempo of the tune, you can subdivide it into sixteen notes (1 e + a 2 e + a 3 e + a 4 e + a) and you have to tap on the 1, on the first a, on the second +, and on the third e. So if I change to the previous subdivision the tap it would be " TAP e + TAP 2 e TAP a 3 TAP + a 4 e + a " I usually do not tap more than four times cause it can be confusing cause the fifth tap is on the 4 and the sixth tap is on the "a" of the 4 so basically it's the same pattern of the first beat. I would use the modulate setting cause it's great. Let me know everything is clear.
@@JulianDoe ok buddy thank you so much for the great advice
@@Lowered_Gadh You're welcome. if you have any question feel free to ask I'm here to help!
I don't understand music theory much.
What does 1e a2 mean?
It's basically a way to count the subdivision of a measure.
Here's an example:
Let's say that a piece of music is in 4/4.
This means that there are 4 beats in each measure. A measure is a segment of time corresponding to a specific number of beats.
Inside this measure you can subdivide the time in several ways:
A whole note will represet the entire measure. So to count it you will say just " 1 "
A Half note will represent half measure. So to count it you will say "1, 2"
A quarter note will be a quarter of the measure or a half of the half note. To count it you will say "1, 2, 3, 4"
A eight note is half of the quarter and can be counted as " 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and"
A sixteen note is half of the eight note and divide the measure into four equal parts, we use "e" and "a" to count the subdivisions."1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a"
In the video I'm using the "dotted eight". A dot after a note increases its duration by half of its original value. Half of an eighth note is a sixteenth note, therefore, a dotted eighth note equals an eighth note + a sixteenth note.
In 4/4 time, if you're counting sixteenth notes (1 e and a 2 e and a 3 e and a 4 e and a ...), a dotted eighth note takes up the space of "1 e &". The "a" is the next sixteenth note.
Since a dotted eighth equals an eighth plus a sixteenth, it's the same as three sixteenth notes played in a row. This can be helpful for visualizing the rhythm.
To practice use a metronome and begin at a slow tempo. This will help you internalize the rhythm.
I hope this helps
So can you provide a couple DD3 settings for U2 with 800ms? Actually looking for " In God's Country? Thanks!
mainly the edge works with dotted eight. depending on the tempo of the song you can use this video to replicate the same procedure for other songs that requires dotted eight delay. if I'm right in god's country is 127 bpm so a dotted eight delay is 354 ms. so set the dd3 mode knob to 800 and raise the time until you reach the 354. you have to use your ears. every knob is different so the "position" of my knobs is irrelevant. adjust the feeback to have 3 or 4 repeats and the level to taste. for this song you should use a stereo system but if you don't have it you can use a slow tremolo after the delay with a low mix to simulate the stereo panning. hope this is helpful
@@JulianDoe Thanks, I will try that!
So useful.
Hi, Thawdar Myint Han I really appreciate your comment. It truly helps me to keep going in this UA-cam adventure. If you have any suggestion or request feel free to ask! Have a great day and stay safe!
What's the song you play when you set up the delay?
U2 - Where The Streets Have No Name (but don't tell youtube)
@@JulianDoe I won't! Thank you. I know that's a really popular song but I only know With or Without You. LOL
@@charmanfer Obviously, you can use this technique with every song where you want to use a dotted eight delay.
@@JulianDoe I know. Do you know The Contortionist's Language?
@@charmanfer unfortunately, my knowledge of metal is poor.
my pedal only have delay, repeat and depth, can i do this with my delay? its a century delay
Sure. If you compare it with the DD3, the delay is the time, the repeat is the feedback and the depth is the level. Happy new year!
@@JulianDoe thanks ❤, happy new year too
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Sorry, but I don't get it. Guess I'm just too dumb. I just don't see how you could do it without a metronome (and even with one, I'm not sure about that "1e+ a2" bit - what do those represent?. All I know is it's its the note value+ half of the value that the dot is applied to, which I think for dotted 1/8 means 3/16. Is that correct?
Thank goodness my delays have subdivisions.
Hi Matt, as you can hear in the video I use a metronome to make the process clear but you can use whatever you want (i.e.: tap the foot, snap the fingers) to achieve the same result. 1 e + a is a common way to call the sixteenth: you have 1 (first sixteenth) e (second) + (third) a (fourth). As you should see, the "a" is where you want the first repeat to play. Yes, thank goodness many delays have subdivisions and makes life easier but some delay just don't and that's what this video is for. thanks for commenting and have a great day
@@JulianDoe O...kay...I don't have an internal metronome, my dude.
Thanks for confusing me further. Thank you for your reply and have a great day :)
Q: Why is Bono always on eBay?
A: He still hasn't found what he's looking for.
What bpm is the metronome set at ?
I don't remember. By ear it should be around 120/124. It's not relevant. You should set the metronome at the same time of the song you're playing.
Sweet. Thanks mate. 👍
Great information, Thanx man. It looks like you're in 800m/s. On the Boss pedal,is it the same m/s for Bad & Pride? Keep up the work👍🍻🎸
Hi Grizz, Thanks for the comment. Actually, in the video, I've played the riff by ear and I don't know if it's the right tempo. lol btw the Boss DD3 is set to 800 but you will reach the 800ms only when the Time knob is all the way to the right. Basically, the mode knob sets the range of the time knob; in this case, it goes from 200ms to 800ms. That's why I had to go by ears. Bad it's a little more complicated: it's a double delay: 1/8 dotted and a slapback. If your delay has the possibility to set the milliseconds you have to do some maths. Bpm is beats for a minute so to transform a minute in milliseconds: 1 min = 60sec = 60000ms. As far as I remember Bad is around 100bpm so you have to do 60000/bpm to find the ms per beat. So we have 60000/100 = 600ms per beat that means that our 1/4 is at 600ms. and we can easily calculate that 1/8 is 300bpm and 1/16 is 150bmp. The dotted eight is basically 3/16 so you have to do 150bpm x 3 = 450bpm. For the slapback you can go by ear but if you want you can think about it like a 1/16 dotted = 1/16+1/32 = 150+75 = 225bpm. When the streets have no name has a similar approach with one delay at 3/16 (dotted eight) and 9/32 (dotted eight + dotted sixteen) I don't remember the exact tempo of the song but I think it's around 120bpm. You do the math now. lol. Pride instead has only one delay 3/16 but you can add a 1/4 delay with 4 repeats and a darker tone to have an extra texture. I think Pride is 110bpm. Let me know if it's all clear.
@@JulianDoe Thank u,got some homework to do
@@grizz1887 lol
@@JulianDoe this is great start Julian, how much feedback and level we should apply?, on Pride the second delay is not clear, it should be 429ms as the first delay? and 4 repeats you mean feeback or 1/4?, thanks for your great help
@@fert9825 with analog units you can't set a precise number of milliseconds. You have to use your ears. Don't think about the record think about your band. They will react to your playing no matter the number of milliseconds you're on. It is your duty to stay in time with yourself and your delay setting during the entire song without pushing or pulling. The band will (and has to) follow your time, in situations like this. 4 repeats means that the delayed note repeats 4 times. Some delay calls it repeats, other feedback, regeneration, sustain. I had an old russian delay that calls it return. 1/4 is the subdivision that it's generally part of the time configuration. It depends on the bpm of the song.
for your consideration:
1 BPM = 60 seconds = 60,000 milliseconds
this means that
60,000/BPM = 1 beat (measured in milliseconds)
so you can go back and forth calculating the time based on both bpm and milliseconds.
As a reference:
At 120 BPM
1/4 = 500ms
1/8 dotted = 3/4 = 375ms
1/8 = 250ms
1/16 = 125ms
hi julian hey mate what bps have you got your metranome set at?
im trying to get all this right on my carbon copy deluxe it has tap tempo but yet to be excited about the dotted 8th setting on the thing
The bpm in the video is 124 but you can apply this technique to whatever bpm you want.
@@jasonsurf100 the carbon copy deluxe has the dotted eight setting that makes your life easier (and this video useless lol). match the tempo of the song you're playing with the tap and you're ready to go. Remember to have a great 8dot delay it's very important "how" you play. fast and sharp attack on the notes and precise timing are crucial.
What is the songs name because it’s stuck in my head and I can’t remember the name lol
Where The Streets Have No Name
@@JulianDoe thx
@@isaac2fly4you you're welcome!
Clever. I also think that he uses a duck in the delay
yes, he use more complex delay units with more features.
Great tutorial, im new to delays, what exactly does the mode do?
The mode knob/selector affects the range of Time knob. The Mode selector has 4 modes: S.50ms, M.200ms, L.800ms and Hold. The delay time changes from 12.5ms to 50ms when the mode selector is in the S.50ms position, from 50ms to 200ms when the mode selector is in the M.200ms position, from 200ms to 800ms 50ms when the mode selector is in the L.800ms position. In Hold mode, the D.Time knob controls the repetition time of the hold sound from 200ms to 800ms. Let me know if everything is clear or if you need more help. Have a great day and stay safe!
@@JulianDoe i see, so the mode basically adjusts the range of the time knob? Thanks! I was just curious because i ordered a dd8 for my birthday which doesn't have time intervals under the mode, instead it has different effects. Thanks very much for the reply!
@@sledge2742 the dd8 is slightly different. The Mode knob changes the type of delay (analog, tape, etc). Every mode has a range 20ms - 800ms except reverse (300-500) shim (200-800) glt (10-400) and the loop (40s mono / 20s stereo) you can also double the length of the delays if you plug your guitar in the input A and you plug your amplifier only in the output B (nothing plugged in input B and Output A). Happy Birthday!
@@JulianDoe wow super super helpful! Thanks so much!!! Subscribed
@@sledge2742 thank you! #happy2help
Interesting he never explains the ms dial or why he ha it set that way. So much for the “tutorial”.
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Everything is clearly explained in the video. If you don't find it useful, I'm sorry. I'll try to do better next time.
The delay sound is a triplet going against the set tempo!...
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Or...
Step 1- buy a flashback delay
Step 2- set to dotted 8th mode
Step 3- PROFIT?
LOL well I prefer the strymon to the tc :D Have a great day and thanks for the comment!
@@JulianDoe yeah... The strymon is an amazing unit, But on my pedalboard real estate comes at a premium. Anything i need is either on the flashback, or i can toneprint it. So as much as i like the timeline, it would be a wasted on my board.itd be like needing a forklift but buying a crane, you know.like i said my knowlage of delays is not as strong as id like, and dialing a decent sounding echo is something ive learned how to do in the last maybe 4 years or so.before that i just "played" the delays id hear.honestly if i were to purchase anything by strymon itd be the reverb. I have an hof 2 but as cool as it is, its finicky about half of the presets are identical to the others. And how is reverse reverb not included on it?
Keep up the good work on the channel.guess i owe you a subscription now...lulz
@@earlycuyler2295 absolutely. when planning a pedalboard you should consider how big it will be, its weight, and how the pedals interact with each other and with your style of playing. Flashback (normal and mini) are great sounding and, honestly, I don't see much difference between the two in terms of sound. Personally, I prefer something with more imperfections but that's a matter of taste. In my intentions, this video is meant to be a chapter in "understanding the delay" and going beyond the presets and analyze the process. About the reverb, the blue sky and the big sky are incredible, but if your problem is the real estate I can suggest you the earthquaker dispatch master (delay and reverb in an mxr stlyle pedal) or the boss rv (I have the 2 and I love it but the 5 is also very good). Well, if you would like to subscribe it would be awesome. It's a small channel about me, and my music and where I try to do my best to share the things I learn or to demonstrate the things I've got. Right now I'm testing some software but in the next weeks, I would like to post a quick demo of all my pedals and some tips, tricks, how to use it and some experiment.
The EQD isn't analog. It's digital. It just sounds analog :)
It's the closest to an analog delay I had. lol #brokeguitarist
@@JulianDoe Fair enough lol. I regret selling my Disaster Transport Jnr even though I have two great real analog delays. There's something about it, just worked great with everything I threw at it.
I just bought a modded SD-1 and am having a muffin & a bag of cashews for dinner.
#GASisReal #brokestguitarist
Great for studio, good to know. For me, useless live.
Absolutely. For live shows it's better to use digital devices that can allow you to easily and quickly dial in the sound.
you're wasting your time trying to do this with a single pedal you biscuit you
me and 926 people don't think so 😂
Way overthinking this. Use your ear. Like Edge did. Like we did 35 years ago if we were trying to play that stuff. Those who never got it then, will never get it now, even with the full analysis. The thing most people are mystified by, is how you get the modulation with delay, and slight bending, and create that chorus effect and "tone" that Edge got. Just play with a delay a while for God's sake! And try a Memory Man if you cant figure out how to modulate your notes. If you have to do math and engineering to figure this out, then you are done already. Don't even start.
I think you're taking this the wrong way. Yes, "use your ears" is always great advice (in fact is what this video is all about - using analog devices means that you have to use your ear to achieve the sound and not rely on presets or a numerical display) because it opens your perception and allows you to explore new sounds. But when you have to translate your achievement in a recording situation and when you have to achieve the same exact sound in every gig that's when settings and "do the math" comes handy. Especially when the delay is the main part of the rhythm and the tempo of the song (so that your entire band depends on it) you have to set it up in the fastest way it's possible. So, what I'm showing here it's a way to reverse-engineering the dotted eight sound to help people to spend less time figuring out "how to do it" and more making music. And I believe it's a good thing. I hope that the people who look at my video feel inspired to pick up their instrument and play. I'm trying to help and encourage my audience to make music. There's too much negativity all around and I know that some guys, especially beginners, can be thrown off by people that say to give up, that they're "done already" and "don't even start". I've been there. Not only when I was a beginner but also when the CTS stroke me, severely affecting my playing. That negativity hurts and can deeply affect the life of a person. I believe that more experienced musician have moral obligations to stay positive and try to find the best way to help people to make music.
@@JulianDoe Sorry bro. Just gettin old. You are right. Also, reverse engineering is the way I have made my living for the past ten years. Only not in music. Unfortunately. I should stop posting on these after certain alterations. Peace.
@@capgage1 No worries. Feel free to post your opinions everywhere. Comparing and contrasting opinions can only improve us as a human being. Have a great day and stay safe!