Your videos are TOP notch, well filmed, good sound, and you give your honest opinion as a skater - you're not shilling your sponsor's products and repeating their ad copy. Very much appreciate it and hope more people find your channel.
Thanks so much for this extremely useful video. After watching a few times, I was able to make an educated choice for a plate at our local skate shop. So, I did go for the Energy plate, after you explained that it was only different due to a toe plug/stopper space. I am also grateful that you took the time out to discuss skate hardware with me recently and now my "dream" skates are cooking... next dream is I hope I get them before Christmas...Thanks again
Awesome review!!! I have 168 arius on size 9 Solaris as well as 174 arius in size 9 3200. I have never skated with king pin trucks but had been waiting over 2 months for a set of 170 killers that I plan to mount on size 9 951. You review illustrated almost all that I was anticipating except I didn’t consider the wheel sizes. I have been using rollline animals in 55mm and this may be an issue. As if I wasn’t anxious enough to compare the 2 plates already. Now I really am like a little kid waiting for an anticipated 1st bicycle.
I was just looking at both these plates last week trying to decide which one would suit me better. This video helped me pick the Arius for my future set up. I love your footwork! Amazing!
Same here. Skated on Gold Stars w/Imperial plates since the early 80s. Now choosing between the Arius and the Avenger. Still can’t figure out a boot since the Gold Stars are no longer. Did you make a decision?
@@Andvilsk8s hopefully they mount the plate slightly behind the ball of my foot.. I currently have the a 270 Edea with a 155 Giotto mount.. but I won’t know how far the 3200 build is going for awhile
Just arrived in the UK from Riedell ordered the OG172 with the Arius Platinum plates, went to the shop to make sure the boots fit before the plates are fitted.. I have never felt such a light plate! It feels like its gana break its so light but it won't break. The boots are gana hurt to break in...
Great Review 🔥 I currently have a classica with a rolline ring plate but started with my riedell 120 boot mounted on my arius platinum. i plan on taking the arius off and mounting it on a ice skating boot or 3200. i hated the stiff cushions and always enjoyed softer and am now on the softest orange. i think using a stiffer boot, which i never have, will let the stiffer cushions shine ✨ The Rolline Ring plate I got later on and it is a great plate, the click action system and cushion setup allow for very accurate tuning. But the Arius can hold an edge so well it ridiculous, theres moves ive done on it i cant do on my rolline with nearly as much ease. If it wasn’t for the nut being so easy to strip & the amount of time it takes to swap cushions, the arius is king
Interesting insight with stiff cushions and a soft boot. Never considered the effects of such a combo. A stiffer boot will always outperform a softer boot due to the amount of stability it provides.
I have GIOTTO on my flimsy softy boots and the MISTRAL on my stiff boots annnnnnnnd arius on my speed skates. The roll line brand has been my dream skate plate for years, and now that I’m a grown woman with disposable income, I’m just happy that I could afford them 😂 I definitely like having the option to put a dance plug in, while learning to do the 1 foot toe spin, I’m afraid if my boot hits the ground too much I’ll ruin it.
Hello. How do you like the Mistral plate? Are you using the blue cushions--that came with the Mistral plate? I am thinking about putting them on a stiff-leather boot, for indoor session skating. Also, who did you buy your Roll-Line plates from? Thank you.🌼
@@regina6827 I love the Mistral plate (if you’re gonna be doing super edgy spins, and rotation jumps, this is the best plate, that doesn’t cost $1 million 😂) and I’ve changed the cushions that came on them to the softest ones .. however I only weighed 120 pounds at the time, now that I weigh an extra 20 pounds 😂 I really think I need to get a different cushion, I am really feeling my weight on all of my skates, they are all configured at the softest cushions, … always take your weight into consideration when you’re picking firmness of your cushions.
What a great detailed breakdown! 👍 Awesome skater too. Can you use other brand quad and skateboard bushings for more choice? I have a few rebuild kits (no name brand) from a seller off eBay that deals in skateboard parts. USD$7 for single skate worth of cushions, cushion cups, pivot cups, and nuts.
Thank you! 😇 It is possible however, manufacturers are smart so they purposely make their cushions unique to their plates to avoid people swapping them out with others. It is possible to use other bushings as long as they fit in place.
Great review. Been thinking about the arius for some time. Can you tell me the boot size as interested in your preference on plate size (180). Also were the new holes required to fit the arius a problem, as in close to the previous roll line holes? As i will also be fitting to an old boot with a roll line plate currently fitted.
My boot size is 10. New holes had to be drilled in order to fit the Arius plate on the boot. So now I have 2 set of holes, one for the Giotto plate and one for the Arius. I needed new holes to get the Arius plate as far back as I could to get the front wheel behind the ball of my foot. In hindsight I would go with a smaller plate (170 or 160) for a better fit on the boot.
Hello. Thank you, for taking the time to make this very detailed tutorial! I just learned, when buying used plates, I must make sure to buy one with a Toe Stop option. What is your opinion on the Roll-Line “Dance” skate plate/frame? Thank you!🌻
From what I've read in the Roll Line product line up booklet, The "Dance" plate is designed for skaters of a certain weight range. Personally they look similar to the Giotto in terms of truck angle, and I would rather jump with the Giotto plate instead (cause of my weight).
Andre, thanks for such an informative and funny video! I wonder if I can ask you if you would recommend the Arius for a pretty new skater who wants to learn dance moves. I've heard that the Arius has no "center" and can be difficult to control, at least for skaters less skilled than someone like you.
Yes I do! The Arius plate "not having a center" makes no sense. The reason people think that it doesn't have a center is because they are most likely using soft cushions which reduces the stability of the plate when standing still (a lot of skaters don't know or ever bother to change their cushions after buying a plate). For me I found that the Yellow-Green (maybe Navy Blue if you're heavier) offers a decent mix between stability and agility (being able to lean and crave on your edges with ease). Definitely get the plate, it'll last you forever! 😁
I frequently see some of the best rhythm/jam/dance skaters at my rink in Riedell 3200, fusion 2010, and flair 910 boots. It appears they all leave their laces a bit loose with these super stiff setups. I’m wondering on the “why” behind this - what advantage/performance, if any, you get out of a super stiff boot if you don’t lace it up snug? I have some riedell 120’s on arius plates with og vanathane wheels and am curious about these stiffer boots so wanted to ask the question. I mainly do medium fast shuffle and rhythm skating around outside (not much middle work) so wondering if I’d even see any benefit?
In a nutshell, the stiffness of those boots, When Properly Sized, will fit your feet like a pair of gloves/socks. That's how we can get away with having them loose. Also there is a greater range of motion the feet and ankles can move around in due to not being tied up all the way. Its an experience that one has to try in order to understand unfortunately. Fun fact: I was originally going to get the Fusion 2010 😁
@@BrandonClements-g8q The Fusion 2010 doesn't have ColorLab, so it would've cost me more. The 3200 came out to be less expensive, since it came with ColorLab already and getting the boots reinforced to the same level as the Fusion 2010 was a small fee. 😊
Fantastic review! I've been using the arius as my daily driver. Main reason for choosing them, less parts to fiddle with and how light they were. Granted there's a bit learning in the beginning to figure out what cushions to go with, but once you are past that its gold. I also had the same issue as you did with the pin falling out. I was so excited to try them out, that on the first session my front truck came right off. I should have checked they were screwed in properly from the factory. Also a tip for any one else, make sure to buy an extra screw/pin and the plastic sleeve. You'll be waiting a while if any of those parts break. See you at the rink.
Great review!!! thanks for this. Getting ready to build a new skate. I currently have a Klingbeil Custom with the Gittos. I LOVE the set up and was going to get the same plate but wanted to try a shorter plate. Did you size down the Arius plate? Curious how mush shorter you went. I know the shorter plate give you better toe control from what I understand. Do you have any other insights into the benefits of the front plates sitting behind the ball of your foot? I also have a 180 Giotto. Not sure what the next size down is but will check. Any insight is always appreciated.
I was lucky to get the Arius plate (since they're hard to come by) the same size as my Giotto's, 180. I had to mount the Arius plate as far back as I could to get the front wheels under the ball of my foot. If I had to choose a smaller plate I may do a size 165 or 170. Need to learn more about plate sizing to determine how much shorter in MM or Inches the plates get.
Do you have the hardest cushions on the Roll Lines? What's your weight? I only started skating a couple years ago and since getting comfortable I've been using softer and softer cushions. However, I'm now thinking maybe harder cushions would be better for spins and overall stability? Hint: I'm sure i weigh quite a bit more than you lol. I am down to the gray (2nd softest) cushions on my Roll Line plates now. Your videos are some of the best btw! Only video I've found for one foot toe spin tutorial so far
I weight over 155 lbs (70 kg) and found myself using the urethane yellow cushions after experimenting with different combinations. The stability of the harder cushions is definitely useful when it comes to spinning and overall stability. IDK how you're managing with the 2nd softest cushions if you're heavier than me! 😅 You'll definitely feel the difference after you make the switch.
How does the Roll line SKATE ?? You can use any plate to stand in one spot and tip your foot over and spin we'd like to see some actual skating rolling how does it handle how's the truck action Etc
Personally I couldn't really tell much of a difference other than the Roll Line having a slightly taller center of gravity than the Arius plate. During my tests I found that my skating technique overshadowed any differences in truck action, especially since I made the trucks of both plates to be stiffer. I did find that the Roll Line allows you to fine tune the truck action (swapping cushions and tightening/loosing the lock nut) compared to the "take it or leave it" nature of the Arius plate. Which is good since Arius cushions are usually $20 per set and some colors are hard to come by.
I use d45 avengers (aluminum) plates for rythmn skating. They hold a tight edge and are fairly fast cos they are "short foward". I'd not bother with the magnesium ones are the same but lighter and cost 100 more...
I still think that these two plates are the best you can buy. They're strong, will last a long time, and have replacement parts available if needed. Ultimately, if you need to use wheels smaller than 57mm, then the Arius is the way to go. I've met several people than bought both plates for different setups. I have to check out what other plates exsist to try out.
Honestly, most skaters don't know much about their setups to even begin talking about setups. There's a lot of tips and settings you can tinker with to affect your roller skate setup.
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You did a real a** review on equipment that serious skaters actually use. We need more of this.
I'll be sure to keep them coming! 😁😁😁
Your videos are TOP notch, well filmed, good sound, and you give your honest opinion as a skater - you're not shilling your sponsor's products and repeating their ad copy. Very much appreciate it and hope more people find your channel.
I appreciate that! I'll be sure to keep going! 😊😊😊
Thanks so much for this extremely useful video. After watching a few times, I was able to make an educated choice for a plate at our local skate shop. So, I did go for the Energy plate, after you explained that it was only different due to a toe plug/stopper space. I am also grateful that you took the time out to discuss skate hardware with me recently and now my "dream" skates are cooking... next dream is I hope I get them before Christmas...Thanks again
You're very welcome.
I'm glad I was able to help!
There's so many options to pick and choose from so it can be a bit stressful picking the next parts.
Awesome review!!! I have 168 arius on size 9 Solaris as well as 174 arius in size 9 3200. I have never skated with king pin trucks but had been waiting over 2 months for a set of 170 killers that I plan to mount on size 9 951. You review illustrated almost all that I was anticipating except I didn’t consider the wheel sizes. I have been using rollline animals in 55mm and this may be an issue. As if I wasn’t anxious enough to compare the 2 plates already. Now I really am like a little kid waiting for an anticipated 1st bicycle.
I was just looking at both these plates last week trying to decide which one would suit me better.
This video helped me pick the Arius for my future set up.
I love your footwork! Amazing!
excellent review !!!! making a transition from Synder Imperial ..... looking at the Arius because of that 45 degree angel....
The Arius plate is pretty damn good. 😎
Same here. Skated on Gold Stars w/Imperial plates since the early 80s. Now choosing between the Arius and the Avenger. Still can’t figure out a boot since the Gold Stars are no longer. Did you make a decision?
not yet..... leaning to Riedel 3200 & the rollline palte @@tamimatteson1093
thankyou for putting this out lol. I just ordered my 3200 with the Arius upgrade. I already have the Giotto and I love it also
If you can get both plates mounted on the same boot (different times of course) then you can swap the plate whenever you want. 😎😁
@@Andvilsk8s hopefully they mount the plate slightly behind the ball of my foot.. I currently have the a 270 Edea with a 155 Giotto mount.. but I won’t know how far the 3200 build is going for awhile
Super informational. I’m going with the Arius, this confirmed it for me. Great to know the issues I might encounter. Saves the headache. Following!
You're welcome! Glad I was able to help you! 😇
Just arrived in the UK from Riedell ordered the OG172 with the Arius Platinum plates, went to the shop to make sure the boots fit before the plates are fitted.. I have never felt such a light plate! It feels like its gana break its so light but it won't break. The boots are gana hurt to break in...
Fantastic! This helped so much!!
Brilliant review thankyou - I've been thinking of upgrading and you've helped me make my decision 🙏
I'm glad to be of help! 😁😇
Great Review 🔥 I currently have a classica with a rolline ring plate but started with my riedell 120 boot mounted on my arius platinum. i plan on taking the arius off and mounting it on a ice skating boot or 3200. i hated the stiff cushions and always enjoyed softer and am now on the softest orange. i think using a stiffer boot, which i never have, will let the stiffer cushions shine ✨
The Rolline Ring plate I got later on and it is a great plate, the click action system and cushion setup allow for very accurate tuning. But the Arius can hold an edge so well it ridiculous, theres moves ive done on it i cant do on my rolline with nearly as much ease. If it wasn’t for the nut being so easy to strip & the amount of time it takes to swap cushions, the arius is king
Interesting insight with stiff cushions and a soft boot. Never considered the effects of such a combo.
A stiffer boot will always outperform a softer boot due to the amount of stability it provides.
@@Andvilsk8s Very True. Im starting to outgrow my classicas. Top 3 boots stiff in your opinion?
Brilliant super detailed and massively helpful review. Thanks!
Thank you! 😇
thank you..good to finally see you the other night..
Yes! I was great seeing you as well! 😁
I have GIOTTO on my flimsy softy boots and the MISTRAL on my stiff boots annnnnnnnd arius on my speed skates. The roll line brand has been my dream skate plate for years, and now that I’m a grown woman with disposable income, I’m just happy that I could afford them 😂 I definitely like having the option to put a dance plug in, while learning to do the 1 foot toe spin, I’m afraid if my boot hits the ground too much I’ll ruin it.
Hello. How do you like the Mistral plate?
Are you using the blue cushions--that came with the Mistral plate?
I am thinking about putting them on a stiff-leather boot, for indoor session skating.
Also, who did you buy your Roll-Line plates from?
Thank you.🌼
@@regina6827 I love the Mistral plate (if you’re gonna be doing super edgy spins, and rotation jumps, this is the best plate, that doesn’t cost $1 million 😂) and I’ve changed the cushions that came on them to the softest ones .. however I only weighed 120 pounds at the time, now that I weigh an extra 20 pounds 😂 I really think I need to get a different cushion, I am really feeling my weight on all of my skates, they are all configured at the softest cushions, … always take your weight into consideration when you’re picking firmness of your cushions.
The 3200 and the arius plate is definitely my next set-up!! Thank you for being so detailed 😃
You're welcome! Thank you for watching. The 3200 is really badass boot.
Thank you for the thorough review, it is very helpful👍
You're welcome! 😁😁
Never just my Giotto I am scared but I need it done. See you on the wood!
What a great detailed breakdown! 👍 Awesome skater too.
Can you use other brand quad and skateboard bushings for more choice? I have a few rebuild kits (no name brand) from a seller off eBay that deals in skateboard parts. USD$7 for single skate worth of cushions, cushion cups, pivot cups, and nuts.
Thank you! 😇
It is possible however, manufacturers are smart so they purposely make their cushions unique to their plates to avoid people swapping them out with others. It is possible to use other bushings as long as they fit in place.
Whata great video explanation! Thank you!
You're welcome! 😇
Great review. Been thinking about the arius for some time. Can you tell me the boot size as interested in your preference on plate size (180). Also were the new holes required to fit the arius a problem, as in close to the previous roll line holes? As i will also be fitting to an old boot with a roll line plate currently fitted.
My boot size is 10. New holes had to be drilled in order to fit the Arius plate on the boot. So now I have 2 set of holes, one for the Giotto plate and one for the Arius.
I needed new holes to get the Arius plate as far back as I could to get the front wheel behind the ball of my foot. In hindsight I would go with a smaller plate (170 or 160) for a better fit on the boot.
@@Andvilsk8s Looking at the Giotto size chart, that's surprising since the 160 would be waayy too small. How do you know what size plate to get??
Hello. Thank you, for taking the time to make this very detailed tutorial! I just learned, when buying used plates, I must make sure to buy one with a Toe Stop option.
What is your opinion on the Roll-Line “Dance” skate plate/frame?
Thank you!🌻
From what I've read in the Roll Line product line up booklet, The "Dance" plate is designed for skaters of a certain weight range. Personally they look similar to the Giotto in terms of truck angle, and I would rather jump with the Giotto plate instead (cause of my weight).
Andre, thanks for such an informative and funny video! I wonder if I can ask you if you would recommend the Arius for a pretty new skater who wants to learn dance moves. I've heard that the Arius has no "center" and can be difficult to control, at least for skaters less skilled than someone like you.
Yes I do!
The Arius plate "not having a center" makes no sense. The reason people think that it doesn't have a center is because they are most likely using soft cushions which reduces the stability of the plate when standing still (a lot of skaters don't know or ever bother to change their cushions after buying a plate).
For me I found that the Yellow-Green (maybe Navy Blue if you're heavier) offers a decent mix between stability and agility (being able to lean and crave on your edges with ease).
Definitely get the plate, it'll last you forever! 😁
I frequently see some of the best rhythm/jam/dance skaters at my rink in Riedell 3200, fusion 2010, and flair 910 boots. It appears they all leave their laces a bit loose with these super stiff setups.
I’m wondering on the “why” behind this - what advantage/performance, if any, you get out of a super stiff boot if you don’t lace it up snug?
I have some riedell 120’s on arius plates with og vanathane wheels and am curious about these stiffer boots so wanted to ask the question. I mainly do medium fast shuffle and rhythm skating around outside (not much middle work) so wondering if I’d even see any benefit?
In a nutshell, the stiffness of those boots, When Properly Sized, will fit your feet like a pair of gloves/socks. That's how we can get away with having them loose. Also there is a greater range of motion the feet and ankles can move around in due to not being tied up all the way.
Its an experience that one has to try in order to understand unfortunately.
Fun fact: I was originally going to get the Fusion 2010 😁
@@Andvilsk8s Thanks, that does make sense.
What made you end up choosing the 3200 over the fusion 2010?
@@BrandonClements-g8q The Fusion 2010 doesn't have ColorLab, so it would've cost me more. The 3200 came out to be less expensive, since it came with ColorLab already and getting the boots reinforced to the same level as the Fusion 2010 was a small fee. 😊
I’m just loving this wii music lol!!
I use Snyder Imperial Figure plates (nts) yea I'm old school but it still gets the job done. Turn down for what.......
Snyder made some damn good plates. I wouldn't be surprised if modern plates are using similar features and angles as Snyder plates.
Fantastic review! I've been using the arius as my daily driver. Main reason for choosing them, less parts to fiddle with and how light they were. Granted there's a bit learning in the beginning to figure out what cushions to go with, but once you are past that its gold. I also had the same issue as you did with the pin falling out. I was so excited to try them out, that on the first session my front truck came right off. I should have checked they were screwed in properly from the factory. Also a tip for any one else, make sure to buy an extra screw/pin and the plastic sleeve. You'll be waiting a while if any of those parts break. See you at the rink.
I definitely forgot to mention getting extra cups and pivot pins for the Arius plate. It really would be long wait for those to come in the mail.
Hi great and informative review i have a riedell 8 do i get plate size 5 or 6 help thanks x
I'm not entirely sure what size would suit you.
My boot is a size 10 and my Arius plate is a size 10 (mounted as far back as I can get it).
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 at the annoyance of the pink cushions. I know exactly how you feel 😂😂😂😂
I have don't even use them anymore! Maybe when I get heavier I'll go back to them 🤣
Great review!!! thanks for this. Getting ready to build a new skate. I currently have a Klingbeil Custom with the Gittos. I LOVE the set up and was going to get the same plate but wanted to try a shorter plate. Did you size down the Arius plate? Curious how mush shorter you went. I know the shorter plate give you better toe control from what I understand. Do you have any other insights into the benefits of the front plates sitting behind the ball of your foot? I also have a 180 Giotto. Not sure what the next size down is but will check. Any insight is always appreciated.
I was lucky to get the Arius plate (since they're hard to come by) the same size as my Giotto's, 180.
I had to mount the Arius plate as far back as I could to get the front wheels under the ball of my foot.
If I had to choose a smaller plate I may do a size 165 or 170. Need to learn more about plate sizing to determine how much shorter in MM or Inches the plates get.
Do you have the hardest cushions on the Roll Lines? What's your weight? I only started skating a couple years ago and since getting comfortable I've been using softer and softer cushions. However, I'm now thinking maybe harder cushions would be better for spins and overall stability? Hint: I'm sure i weigh quite a bit more than you lol. I am down to the gray (2nd softest) cushions on my Roll Line plates now. Your videos are some of the best btw! Only video I've found for one foot toe spin tutorial so far
I weight over 155 lbs (70 kg) and found myself using the urethane yellow cushions after experimenting with different combinations. The stability of the harder cushions is definitely useful when it comes to spinning and overall stability. IDK how you're managing with the 2nd softest cushions if you're heavier than me! 😅
You'll definitely feel the difference after you make the switch.
This was amazing. Thanks
Awesome video! Can you tell me what size your boot is and what size your Arius plates are?
Boot size: 10
Arius plate size: 180
@@Andvilsk8s thank you!
Nice video, very informative. I’m considering arius or roll line killer plate. If you have any info on the killer plate lmk pls
I would definately do a review on the Killer once I get my hands on it sometime. 😎
It's easier to pop in the butterfly cushions from the top, instead of sliding them into place. Just push, they'll click in.
How does the Roll line SKATE ?? You can use any plate to stand in one spot and tip your foot over and spin we'd like to see some actual skating rolling how does it handle how's the truck action Etc
Personally I couldn't really tell much of a difference other than the Roll Line having a slightly taller center of gravity than the Arius plate. During my tests I found that my skating technique overshadowed any differences in truck action, especially since I made the trucks of both plates to be stiffer.
I did find that the Roll Line allows you to fine tune the truck action (swapping cushions and tightening/loosing the lock nut) compared to the "take it or leave it" nature of the Arius plate. Which is good since Arius cushions are usually $20 per set and some colors are hard to come by.
Is the avenger aluminum a good rhythm plate
I wish I knew myself. Never had a chance to use them. 😅
I use d45 avengers (aluminum) plates for rythmn skating. They hold a tight edge and are fairly fast cos they are "short foward". I'd not bother with the magnesium ones are the same but lighter and cost 100 more...
The Arious plate has a lot more interesting things going on
Question, I noticed you made this video about 2 years ago, Do you still stand by it or did you change your mind?
I still think that these two plates are the best you can buy. They're strong, will last a long time, and have replacement parts available if needed. Ultimately, if you need to use wheels smaller than 57mm, then the Arius is the way to go. I've met several people than bought both plates for different setups.
I have to check out what other plates exsist to try out.
What skates do you use
Riedell 3200 and Arius plate.
Going to make a video of my skates soon.
Why are skate specs kept a secret?!??
Honestly, most skaters don't know much about their setups to even begin talking about setups. There's a lot of tips and settings you can tinker with to affect your roller skate setup.
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